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Released: 21.03.202421.03.2024 15:00
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s01e08
s01e01 - Countdown
s01e02 - Red Coast
s01e03 - Destroyer of Worlds
s01e04 - Our Lord
s01e05 - Judgment Day
s01e06 - The Stars Our Destination
s01e07 - Only Advance
s01e08 - Wallfacer

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al_topchiy
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21 Mar 17:44 #
I really liked the series, I hope to continue
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AlexBest115
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27 Mar 04:06 #
@al_topchiy: There are 399 seasons left before the arrival of San Ti))
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Garet
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21 Mar 22:57 #
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rois
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29 Mar 08:40 #
@Garet: I read your comment and decided to watch the Chinese version. She is no better, they poured so much water that you can drown. For half a season, we figured out that the game called three bodies is about three bodies. There are a lot of extra characters, the actors can't play, the very selection of actors, especially the European one, is pzdc.

The Netflix version revealed the essence of what is happening better and faster in eight episodes.
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Garet
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29 Mar 11:41 #
@rois: The Chinese version conveys the author's intention and explains all the events. They are logical and Chekhov's guns then shoot, unlike Netflix.

The characters are better worked out and they are ambiguous, unlike Netflix cartons, as for the game - it's an Asian school, either like it or not.

It would be possible to cut half, the series would only get better.
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rois
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29 Mar 12:30 #
@Garet: another advantage of watching it is that you can watch anime after it based on the second book and not get confused in the names
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Hidji
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29 Mar 22:30 #
@rois: I didn't know that in the Chinese version the game is called Three Bodies. 😁
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Grevon
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22 Mar 01:05 #
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Branson
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23 Mar 10:39 #
@Grevon: So there are nano achievements, have you already forgotten about the cruise?
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Tom_Paris
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02 Apr 21:23 #
@Grevon: blowing them up between the cargo and the sail and even flying through the hole is, of course, complete nonsense. It was necessary, since we took the idea of a sail from the Starshot, to disperse the sail with a laser. Or for bombs to explode from behind a thick slab (greetings to Boris Stern).
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bvvvvvvvvvvv
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22 Mar 02:59 #
I definitely like this trend for science fiction series about space, aliens, physics, etc.
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Iamliam23
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01 Apr 11:59 #
@bvvvvvvvvvvv: It's not a trend, it's a genre)
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thomas_sawyer
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09 Apr 19:51 #
@Iamliam23: It's fashionable to say cor, didn't Barbie teach you?
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lzhezhaba
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22 Mar 08:28 #
Who looked, please write how many books are in the first season and it looks like there will be a second season?
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bvvvvvvvvvvv
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22 Mar 13:35 #
I don't usually do this, but I went to Wikipedia to see the main plot of the books. Attention, little spoiler! It turned out that there was a whole cosmic epic spanning several centuries. So wait for a couple more seasons.
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Branson
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23 Mar 10:41 #
@bvvvvvvvvvvv: if there is a space epic, then it is not a fact that the series will not be closed. As a rule, such a genre is not popular and does not have time to finish.
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Keytlin
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23 Mar 18:22 #
I understand that the creators decided to cram all the events into one time period. And in the books, the biggest jumps through time are in the third part. Let's see what they do here and how
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shelgunov
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26 Mar 20:40 #
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Andriusha
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22 Mar 18:10 #
They made a slightly strange decision. They cut down a lot of material from the first book and showed a little bit from the second. Chronologically, the first book ends on the 5th episode. 6/7/8 is basically the second
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thomas_sawyer
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09 Apr 19:52 #
@Andriusha: a very library vibe from the comment
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id140630607
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23 Mar 18:54 #
@lzhezhaba: In the first season, only the 1st book is not the whole one, "The task of 3 bodies" is called that
I don't know how many seasons they have planned, but I repeat the book - The Dark Forest - you obviously can't cram it into one season, like the third, you also need 2 or 3 seasons - The Eternal Life of Death...
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Hidji
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23 Mar 22:29 #
@id140630607: You've probably read it for a long time, but there's more than one book here. Netflix really crammed the first one into five episodes. The last three episodes are events from the second and third books. The choice of three from the Dark Forest, and the flight of the ship from the Eternal Life of Death. So they can stuff the rest in one season with such a pitch.
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Roman77777
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25 Mar 10:28 #
@lzhezhaba: There are 4 books in total, and two books have been shot this season. But there's not quite a crack like in the books. The Chinese filmed the series right from the first book, and the anime from the second.
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ekrovyakov
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25 Mar 22:14 #
@Roman77777: 3 are books like that?
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Shigapov
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26 Mar 17:00 #
@ekrovyakov: Yeah, there's a fourth one like some kind of fan fiction.
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zhosman-kinoman
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04 Apr 22:33 #
Read the 4th one for sure, you won't regret it 😉🤜🏻
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zhosman-kinoman
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04 Apr 22:33 #
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heydianahey
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12 Apr 06:19 #
a book and a half somewhere
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fladik
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22 Mar 14:08 #
It feels like the book was uploaded to a neural network and asked to make the most concise retelling for the script. It could have been even easier to do: they contacted the aliens, began preparing for war with them. The video could be shot for 1 minute. Why try for as many as 8 episodes.
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Garet
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22 Mar 15:39 #
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Aprillian
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04 Apr 03:12 #
Да! 👍
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New2018
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22 Mar 15:14 #
I really want to read the sequel, but the characters, as far as I understand, are different (gender names). The dilemma is straight)) wait or read
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Vescero
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22 Mar 16:16 #
@New2018: I don't even know how to answer you correctly. I would like to write that everything is different there, but no, not everything. To write that this film adaptation from Netflix is more likely based on " but also not, here the main plot was torn to shreds and redone what they could to get from A to B, but how would they actually get there after all.
In general, I'd rather answer that. https://myshows.me/view/81629 / here is a Chinese film adaptation of the same first book. Almost page-by-page. Watch it, then you can take the second book and read it.
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Roman77777
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25 Mar 10:31 #
@Vescero: I agree, the Chinese film adaptation is based on the 1st book, there is an anime based on the second book. But netflix put as many as two books in its film adaptation, although it was straight from the book, but it turned out not bad.
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ИванЛебедевич
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22 Mar 23:54 #
@New2018: You can listen to it. If I'm not mistaken (and I read them, but I'm afraid I missed something), there are also other main characters in the second book. Except for the smoking cop.
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Hidji
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23 Mar 00:43 #
@Ivanlebedevich: it will be difficult without the first book. The events here seem to be the same, but there are a lot of discrepancies with the original. You said it correctly above. It's like a chop was passed through a meat grinder and made into a cutlet. The meat is the same, but it's not like that😅
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ИванЛебедевич
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23 Mar 09:10 #
@Hidji: I started the cycle with the second read. And nothing — alive.
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ИванЛебедевич
ИванЛебедевич
23 Mar 21:45 #
@New2018:
When Kament wrote, he had not yet watched the last 3 episodes of the season.
6-7 series - the beginning of the 3rd book.
Episode 8 - the beginning of the 2nd book.
There's not much else that can be pulled out in the present tense for the second season. Then we have to jump into the future.
But I don't see much interest in the series, including perhaps either the second season will be canceled, or the budget and the roles of the actors from the first will be reduced.
Therefore, figs knows what kind of crap will be trampled under such circumstances, when, on the contrary, the budget only needs to grow due to the expansion of scale.
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New2018
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24 Mar 07:40 #
@Ivanlebedevich: after reading all the answers (thanks to everyone), I came to the conclusion that I need to read the books from the first. As in the case of the Wheel of Time, I liked the series and will continue to watch it, but the books are better and now there is something to read :)
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jkleym
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22 Mar 20:06 #
we started in a new way, finished in a Netflix way.
after the 5th episode, one chatter.
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nebulad
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23 Mar 22:19 #
@jkleym: they laid out a book that needed to be savored in a holopod for the first 5 episodes, without explaining anything in fact (a cursory retelling of the book). But by adding snot about "friends ". 6-8 These are completely different stories and for some reason they began to drag on...
A very strange approach
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Qtilla
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22 Mar 20:16 #
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vk163098
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22 Mar 21:28 #
@Qtilla: And what about LGBT people
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Glee
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23 Mar 04:41 #
The cop's son is gay. They said it once a season and didn't remember it anymore…
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nebulad
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23 Mar 22:20 #
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vk188829
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25 Mar 02:46 #
@nebulad: a dying man's relatives came to beg for money, and he can't even get them?)00)
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nebulad
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27 Mar 20:21 #
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viziterka
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28 Mar 17:55 #
You're not messing around, I'm sorry
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Keytlin
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23 Mar 18:13 #
If I remember correctly, the aliens were not shown in the books either
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zhosman-kinoman
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04 Apr 22:36 #
The 4th book will show
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vk775121
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24 Mar 12:27 #
@Qtilla: aliens should not be shown, this is one of the ideas of the book
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EmilD
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25 Mar 11:47 #
@Qtilla: Are you watching a Netflix series and complaining about LGBT people, is everything OK with you?
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Garet
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25 Mar 12:44 #
@EmilD: Everything was OK in vanpeace.
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EmilD
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25 Mar 15:11 #
@Garet: one of the actors there is trans, and there were LGBT characters in the anime, so wait)
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Garet
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25 Mar 15:15 #
@EmilD: An actor is an actor to play the role of another person, which is generally purple in his personal life. The way trannies are shown there, the whole LGBT fraternity's bumper will fall off, so I'm looking forward to it.
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Hidji
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25 Mar 16:34 #
@EmilD: The Police Academy also had LGBT characters.
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shipuchko
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30 Mar 10:13 #
@Qtilla: of all the things that happened in the series, for some reason this particular topic touched you
maybe you shouldn't attach such importance to a character who has at most 5 minutes of screen time💁
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Dyonysus
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13 Apr 02:33 #
@Qtilla: Man, well, don't talk from scratch, the creators acted very wisely - since they didn't find where to cram a full-fledged storyline with LGBT characters, they added 1 (one) half-minute scene. And everyone is happy ✅
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Hidji
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23 Mar 04:04 #
It never happened in the series about turkeys and a farmer, as well as about a hunter. That's what really upset me...
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Branson
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23 Mar 10:46 #
I liked the idea, but absolutely nothing is clear, I'm going to watch the Chinese version (something looks heavier). In general, it would be funny if a big-headed physicist could solve the problem of three bodies, then the aliens would not need to go to earth. Well, the aliens forced humanity to develop.
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Garet
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23 Mar 23:10 #
@Branson: Some of the collaborators just wanted to solve this problem so that the aliens would not destroy humanity.
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RbICbKA
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27 Mar 13:29 #
@Branson: and it's too late, their planet has been torn apart, and it's only a matter of time before it completely collapses
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jensenjar
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23 Mar 14:56 #
I didn't understand why the aliens wouldn't just destroy two suns to leave one like normal people.
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Branson
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23 Mar 15:47 #
@jensenjar: maybe they are not so omnipotent, technology is ahead, yes, but they can't even fly at the speed of light, which indicates the limits of their capabilities
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tweedlecat
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23 Mar 20:16 #
@jensenjar: It seems to me that it is quite difficult
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Garet
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23 Mar 23:10 #
@jensenjar: Indeed, it is just as simple.
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jensenjar
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23 Mar 23:14 #
@Garet: Of course it's simple. 3-2= 1
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LuckyThirteen
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24 Mar 11:09 #
@jensenjar: The energy release will be huge, it can lead to cataclysms or the planet itself will be inanimate... You never know what. Perhaps they also looked at these options, as in the game
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Redopera
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30 Mar 20:41 #
@jensenjar: No, you can't take these arguments (stars) out of the equation. If Trisolaris had the technology to destroy stars, they would not have faced the task of three bodies. Thermonuclear reactions and explosions are constantly occurring in the stars. It will take energy at least the sum of the energies of the star to act on it. But this does not make any sense, whether it is the
destruction of a star or its collapse - any scenario will lead to the sterilization of the star system, which means the destruction of bodies trapped by gravity.
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Oleg_Krasnovskiy
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31 Mar 02:39 #
Spoiler alert!



according to the book, they will then be destroyed by other aliens, which is why the remaining Trisolarians on the planet will die
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Redopera
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31 Mar 10:36 #
@Oleg_Krasnovskiy: Oh, thank you, I just read only a quarter of the second book.
P.S. you can at least put a thousand empty lines in the gap. If the function of hiding spoilers is not provided, then they do not need to be written.
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id972349034
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07 Apr 12:48 #
@Oleg_Krasnovskiy: next time, try using a pastebin-type text sharing service (even though it's for code), if you really want to share a spoiler. It's just that the truth is that most people will even read and notice the keywords out of the corner of their eye if the text is not hidden.
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id972349034
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05 Apr 09:19 #
@jensenjar: "if you are homeless, just buy a house"
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jensenjar
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23 Mar 15:23 #
Damn, in the beginning, Nora was so indistinctly shown that I thought it was Tatiana.
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iken
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23 Mar 15:49 #
the series turned out to be so-so, but for lack of alternatives, I had a good time, although the last episodes have already been squandered. I tried to read books at the time - secondary stuffiness, missed the Asian film adaptations, decided to look at this one. the first half, while we were looking and figuring out what and how, it was interesting to watch, the scene with the ship was gorgeous. but then all this snotty chatter and fantasy sayfai with ubiquitous quantum robots that do nothing and an absolutely delusional nuclear sail began. if there's a second season on rewind, of course I'll watch it, but if not, well, fine.
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AntonKorelyakov
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26 Mar 23:17 #
@iken: I agree! But the sail, by the way, is not the most delusional of all this, since such developments are already underway
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27 Mar 13:36 #
@AntonKorelyakov: ты наверное перепутал с солнечным парусом, а то что показали в сериале это видимо пытались выдумать свою версию ядерного импульсного двигателя
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AntonKorelyakov
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01 Apr 13:13 #
@iken: Yes, I decided that you would talk about any sail
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jensenjar
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23 Mar 17:04 #
так и не обьяснили почему инопланетяне тригернулись от сказочки. Они же сами себя не показывают в их истинном виде ( "для вашего же блага") в игре - то есть создают иллюзию - попросту лгут. И потом их секта была законспирирована. И софоны видели как конспирация предполагет заведовую ложь - иначе нельзя. Они же сами убирали Татьяну с видеозаписей - то есть лгали о реальном положении вещей. В общем здесь ничего не вяжется с их " Ах, что такое ложь? Ах и Вы тоже Эмис? " Не впечатлило.

из хорошего - Звукорежиссеру и композиторам - мое почтение . Хорошая работа.
понравилась мелодраматичность и как показана дружба - что-то типа ОНО 2 но лучше.

и я так и непоняла почему запуск неудачный. Потому что он сунул в капсулу горох и изменил ее вес? из-за чего все расчеты пошли прахом? об этом он ей шепнул в конце?
и кто производил на земле эти игры и девайсы к ним?!

продолжение жду
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MSL
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23 Mar 17:49 #
@jensenjar: I haven't read the original source. Therefore, this is only my version that they were triggered by the phrase about killing bugs. It's just that we are periodically shown or hinted at insects during the season. Plus, they were talking about some kind of telepathic communication that is inherent in some insects.
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Garet
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23 Mar 23:13 #
@MSL: For aliens, humans are like bugs for us. There are several concepts in the book that Netflix didn't mention at all.
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Keytlin
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23 Mar 18:17 #
In the book, they aliens have something like a common consciousness and their plans are always in sight of each other. They do not understand the concept of "closed thinking" of humanity. Perhaps I did not accurately describe the meaning, I read it a long time ago.
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nebulad
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23 Mar 19:30 #
@jensenjar: There is a lot of nonsense in the series, which somewhat confuses the whole picture. In the original, all communication of Trisolarians (San ti) is telepathic, well, or something like that, they do not understand lies, all intentions are transparent. They are not devoid of tactics, but even they lay out tactics in front of the enemy, it is unclear to them when they say one thing and do another. And people can lie, which makes us incomprehensible to them - they are afraid of us for this.
Based on this feature of people, the second part is worth it, I will not spoiler.
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LuckyThirteen
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24 Mar 11:12 #
@nebulad: and it would be better to spoil it. It's interesting же
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ekrovyakov
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25 Mar 22:19 #
@nebulad: according to the book, it seems like they visually "think ". They have a way of communicating not with words, but with the transmission of thoughts, but this happens visually. I.e. they cannot lie physically.

There was some joke about the Trisolarian wars, but I forgot. Like one of the sides surrendered before the fighting, because the strategy and tactics were immediately clear.
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demychris
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25 Mar 01:27 #
@jensenjar: so one of the parachute cables broke off, that's the deviation from the planned trajectory
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jensenjar
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25 Mar 10:45 #
@demychris: я видела что оторвался но почему
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Ytzin
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25 Mar 13:31 #
@jensenjar: Why everything at all? These supposedly not lying aliens, did they really want to get a capsule and, as usual, lied and messed up the calculations? Because that's what it looks like.
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demychris
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25 Mar 15:28 #
@jensenjar: Force majeure, there are all sorts of emergency situations, especially in space it is impossible to foresee everything. This mission was initially doomed to failure, because it is almost impossible to detonate 300 charges in a row with such accuracy.
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albinka_
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26 Mar 23:50 #
@jensenjar: and why in our world do rockets sometimes explode at launch? are aliens to blame?
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Ytzin
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25 Mar 13:36 #
@jensenjar: "they still haven't explained why the aliens turned away from the fairy tale" apparently (I have no idea, in fact they are constantly creating some kind of irrational game) they were fine with the concept of lying and they don't lie only inside their community. So they just played Amis when they decided to write him off (and they decided to write him off, for example, because counterintelligence came out on him).
Well, or vice versa, they considered him so much their own that they were sure that he could not lie to them. And when they realized the opposite, they considered it a huge hole.
In short, you can come up with any options, this is not explained in the series.
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Garet
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25 Mar 15:29 #
@Ytzin: there are a lot of illogical actions just because it is an amateur netflix activity. The aliens immediately planned to capture the planet and ban humanity from reproduction, and the collaborators were divided into three branches - those who want to see the world on fire, because they believe that people are destroying the planet, those who want to solve the problem and dissuade the aliens from flying here and those who are waiting for the arrival of aliens, but hope to survive in some way.

Evans was one of the first.
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nebulad
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23 Mar 19:24 #
All that remains of the three-body task is the title of the series. Instead of scientific problems, there were only snot, tolerance and cancer patients... With the exception of a couple of moments, the supply to which was completely lost, everything else is a reason for regular facepaloms.
What was the point of this collective image of a pack of learned friends-lovers who smoke weed and drink more than they solve something according to science, who have a plug in every hole throughout the season. Who sometimes know about each other's work, sometimes they don't. Randomly acting as the right piano when the screenwriters want it. It would be nice to solve problems in some scientific way. And not pointing a finger at the sky with a random phrase that hastily supposedly creates a connection with the next scene.
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AntonKorelyakov
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26 Mar 23:23 #
@nebulad: is there at least some scientific basis in the book, or are there also some inventions and names of concepts that everyone can hear?
Is it worth reading at all?
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ShaMarinka
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27 Mar 09:28 #
@AntonKorelyakov: this is not science fiction, and, God forbid, not the solid Sci-fi that they manage to attract her to. You don't need to read it for that. This is a kind of parable about the coexistence of civilizations, which does not imply a positive contact option, and about very peculiar solutions to problems that you usually do not see in Western fiction. Read for the concept and Chinese flavor.
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sunshine_lika
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23 Mar 22:52 #
And I really liked it, I haven't watched or read any of this before.
The ending is great, I like the analogy of bugs....I immediately remember "The Boot Beetle" from the Avengers Loki's speech 😅
Wong/The Detective is impressed, I will cheer for the opportunity to go into reverse 😅 I am waiting for the second season.

It's cool that there have been a lot of space series lately. 🤩
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LoLPa1n
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23 Mar 23:28 #
Chet missed the moment, where will the nuclear bombs come from all along the capsule's movement?
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24 Mar 01:11 #
@LoLPa1n: they brought it out earlier
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constb
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24 Mar 16:10 #
@tweedlecat: but they can't just hang in one place, they have to move in orbits, and they can't be synchronized so that they line up for more than a fraction of a second... besides, breaking the sail attachment would not lead to a change in trajectory – after receiving an impulse, the ship had to continue moving at the same speed in the same direction It would only be on the next bomb that it would become clear that the impulse was wrong…

but the most basic question, which I did not hear about in the series at all, is " and where are we going?" well, really – he's a hell of a healthy cosmos, where are San ti flying from, to put it mildly, it is unknown in which direction they launched the capsule? To my grandfather's village? 🤦🏻‍♂️
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Rift
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24 Mar 23:15 #
@constb: It is known from where they fly, from a star system about four light—years from Earth, and there is only one such system, this is Alpha Centauri. They received the additional information that Evans had stored.
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AuthorProxy
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28 Mar 00:48 #
@constb: what are the orbits of the EPT in outer space? if they will move due to the gravity of the sun, then in parallel and synchronously
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01 Apr 16:48 #
@AuthorProxy: if they have gained a second cosmic one, then, after leaving the earth's orbit, they of course find themselves in an elliptical orbit around the sun. they can move along it any way they want, but definitely not in parallel and synchronously – well, think about it, the planets don't move in parallel and synchronously, right?
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br1ella
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24 Mar 00:49 #
Сплошное разочарование как экранизация, и слабое в качестве оригинального шоу.
Полагаю людям не знакомым с первоисточником и/или с китайским сериалом будет интересен сам концепт(ну что ж, тоже неплохо), но лично мне жалко потраченного времени даже при том что половина прошла на перемотке.
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24 Mar 12:30 #
@br1ella: look, either on Rewind, that says a lot about you 🤔 good luck
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br1ella
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24 Mar 14:26 #
@vk775121: Полагаю когда какие то линии в шоу вам совершенно неинтересны, вы упорно продолжаете их смотреть🙄, ну ок, удачи.

А на мой взгляд это многое говорит о сериале, ибо перематываю я крайне редко 😉
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vk775121
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24 Mar 15:43 #
@br1ella: if I start to dislike something, then I usually don't look any further.
Or I'm distracted from watching, but rewinding is too much
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tweedlecat
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24 Mar 01:12 #
It will go, it will be necessary to master the Chinese film adaptation then)
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tweedlecat
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24 Mar 19:00 #
@tweedlecat: The impression is as follows:
The first three episodes in one gulp, very hooked
But then, the quality got a little hooked. Perhaps this is the problem of the original source, but I did not understand why the aliens were so triggered by lies and generally announce their invasion 400 years before.
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Keytlin
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24 Mar 20:58 #
Based on the original source, aliens do not know how to lie because of the specifics of their communication (something like telepathy). In the books, more attention was paid to this point, but here only in passing and without explanation.
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Roman77777
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25 Mar 10:36 #
@tweedlecat: Chinese is generally a credit, especially if you have read books, but it is only for the first of 4 books, there is also an anime for the second book.
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Keytlin
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25 Mar 13:45 #
4? There are only 3 books
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Armozlo
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25 Mar 15:11 #
@Keytlin: This is a trilogy in memory of the Earth's past. Then another author released a fanfiction "Rebirth of Time", which Liu Qixing officially declared an excellent continuation of his trilogy. This book even describes what Trisolarians look like.
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ekrovyakov
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25 Mar 22:22 #
@tweedlecat: I recommend
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LuckyThirteen
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24 Mar 11:14 #
I'm unlikely to be able to handle the books, but now it's interesting to see the Chinese version in full, and not the one and a half series that I stopped at
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vk775121
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24 Mar 12:30 #
@LuckyThirteen: Surprisingly, I read the first book in one gulp in about 12 hours.🤣
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Malsagov
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24 Mar 11:43 #
And I liked it, now I need more epic in the next seasons and it will be good. The authors of the IP are just familiar with this)
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jensenjar
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24 Mar 15:26 #
Кстати жду в касте блондинку. Потому что все есть - а блондинок нет. создатели думают что блондинка не может быть ученым, но вообще отвергать существование женщин блондинок? как блондинка - негодую.
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sameoldblues
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28 Mar 17:36 #
As a blonde, I fully support!
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Bororus
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24 Mar 15:36 #
Some kind of double opinion remained.The idea itself and the narrative at the beginning of the season are on top, by the end there was no more clarity.I don't know if I'll watch the second season yet, but I'll read the books.
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Velldanas
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24 Mar 20:18 #
The first five episodes are going well, the series is gaining momentum. The last three episodes are the vibes of the first half of Interstellar. Analysis of a global problem and search for a solution for it, with its subsequent implementation. As science fiction, this series is quite entertaining, but not of an entertaining type. More for reasoning and raising questions about genesis. In general, I'm waiting for season 2.
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Branson
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24 Mar 22:14 #
I couldn't master the Chinese version, but the West knows how to shoot better and it's a shame that the narrative is sagging. An interesting thought I met a Chinese one about this work, that aliens are like Chinese IT corporations that see, know and censor everything. Big brother in Chinese.
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Liza
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24 Mar 22:20 #
I watched the last episode instead of the first and then watched 6 episodes binge and it was still interesting, I just thought it was such a modern technique, first to show the ending, and then to show what led to it... But it turned out that the wrong series was inserted on zetflix instead of the first one... Well, okay 😁
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ИванЛебедевич
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27 Mar 21:41 #
@Liza: It happens. This is what happened to The Ghosts at home on the hill.
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EmilD
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25 Mar 11:46 #
Книгу не читал, мне в целом понравилось, последние три серии проседают по темпу, но как я понял, это уже другая книга. Пока что у меня один вопрос, если эти сан-ти могут вмешиваться в разработку технологий и убивать людей по желанию, почему тогда они всех умных руководителей и ученых разом не убьют? Наверняка же есть такая возможность. Но в любом случае, я не из тех кто любит докапываться до разных мелочей, может быть во втором сезоне объяснят. Надеюсь продлят на второй сезон!
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Garet
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25 Mar 12:50 #
@EmilD: Having stopped fundamental science, it makes no sense to kill all scientists, it's like the Americans sailed to the Japanese on steamships with guns and showed who the pope is now. Moreover, the aliens did not want to arrange a one-time genocide, just to forbid reproduction.

A race that can look to the future 400 years ahead will not reflect much.
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ArinaO
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25 Mar 18:21 #
Overall, the series is not bad. But all the most interesting things happened at the beginning. It feels like we started for health and finished for peace.... But overall 4 stars
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Ouks
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25 Mar 18:49 #
I didn't read it, I didn't watch it, so I enjoyed watching it and I hope for the second season. Maybe I'll even try to master the book.
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It_is_different
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25 Mar 20:43 #
Oh, "The Head" from "Silicon Valley". It's been a long time since I've seen this actor, I barely remember. The first season is not a masterpiece, but it will be enough for 3+ or 4. I'll look forward to continuing.
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MypMyp
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25 Mar 21:32 #
Who has read the first 2 books, it is better not to look :)))
Who has not read the books and has not watched the Chinese version, look. You will like it, incomprehensible crap :)
To submit information from two books of 1200 pages for 8 episodes, this is of course necessary to bother:) But still, the original version is better ...
Although there is a body for each viewer :)
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ShaMarinka
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25 Mar 21:47 #
I didn't expect to see fragments of the second book this season. If the first season had been completely devoted to the first, there would not have been such a schematic narrative, perhaps it would have been better - the beginning was quite cheerful, I do not mind some changes and new characters (I read the book, watched the Chinese version, why the third time the same thing), but still it should be there is some kind of meaningfulness and consistency, but from the middle everything is very crumpled. Even considering that I know the original source, I did not have enough intrigue in the narrative, even the sleepy Chinese version coped better with the mystery and the tension of encountering the inexplicable.
About the books. My standard recommendation is: if you read the first one and you like it, feel free to read the second one, the degree of schizo is higher there, but it is still quite digestible. If you read the second one and you like the ending, you will experience satisfaction and a kind of catharsis from it - do not read the third one. There, the author was carried away into such a fantasy that everything that was achieved in the second one was reset. I really ruined my impressions with the third book, and I know for sure that I'm not the only one. Forget about the scientific nature of this fiction, it is not here, you get the main pleasure from very non-standard solutions to the problems facing the characters (as in the scene with the ship).
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sanaeva
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25 Mar 23:15 #
@ShaMarinka: I completely agree about the third book, if I knew, I wouldn't have read
it, but Yun Tianming's fairy tales were just top, in general his character is healthy and I'm glad that they didn't spoil him here)
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sanaeva
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11 Apr 21:26 #
@ShaMarinka: I found out here by the way about the 4th book: The Rebirth of Time by Baoshu, they write that it closes some plot holes)
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MarkRaffer
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11 Apr 22:09 #
@sanaeva: Yes, she fully answers all the questions and makes the trilogy complete!
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25 Mar 22:29 #
I really liked the series, I hope the next seasons will be even more interesting)
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yurkaaaa
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26 Mar 01:42 #
Yeah, that's the ending... If the beginning flew somewhere and looked like a good blockbuster about aliens, although it has a very indirect relation to the book. Then, at the end, the series died both in pace and drama.
It's a pity, such a potential was lost. The visual and music are not bad, but without acting performances, they have nothing much to play here..
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plalex
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26 Mar 03:30 #
So, where did these VR helmets come from and how did grandfather talk to "God" directly?
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Hidji
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26 Mar 04:33 #
@plalex: helmets are a great mystery, because there were no helmets in the original and other versions. Ask Netflix))).
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Ytzin
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26 Mar 12:05 #
@plalex: дед разговаривал через софон (у которого "квантовая" связность, позволяющая передавать информацию мгновенно). Шлемы приносили софоны же, странно если бы они умели лепить гиганске глаз на небе, но не умели делать коробочки из пластика с записками и шлемами внутри. Напрямую это нигде не проговаривается, но вроде бы как подразумевается, хотя если подумать, при таких возможностях все это выглядит совсем странно. Зачем нанимать снайпера, если можно, не знаю, например уронить самолет?
Или почему софон с почти б-жественными силами так и не научился закрывать за собой двери? Что, не справился с защелкой дома на колесах?
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Neko_Mimi_Mode
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26 Mar 12:37 #
@Ytzin: The sophons brought the helmets, it would be strange if they could sculpt a giant eye in the sky, but could not make plastic boxes with notes and helmets inside."

Helmets for scientists were delivered by accomplices of aliens, it is not difficult for them to crack digital locks.

But they didn't bother to explain where the helmets themselves came from at all, even if the sophons transferred the technology for their manufacture, it's hard to believe that people on the ship could master them, for this we need an institute with capabilities no less than the one that makes nanofibers.
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plalex
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26 Mar 12:38 #
The very process of transferring the helmet through the sophon is just interesting)
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ShaMarinka
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26 Mar 12:56 #
@plalex: the process is the same as in Peripheral devices from the future: circuits and technologies are transferred, everything is manufactured on site. The creators of the series themselves overdid it, in the original it was an ordinary advanced VR, corresponding to modern technologies, which required special devices and costumes simulating sensations to play. There was no helmet without an interface, charging and a screen, which is completely beyond the limits of local technologies.
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Ytzin
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26 Mar 13:12 #
@Neko_Mimi_Mode: "Шлемы для ученых доставляли сообщники инопланетян" тоже так думал сначала. Но потом шлем принесли Татьяне.
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26 Mar 20:42 #
@Ytzin: in the original, it was an ordinary VR game and they played in "ordinary " costumes (not quite ordinary - they were expensive, but affordable to the average consumer), and the servers with the game were hanging out in space in my opinion.
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Ytzin
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26 Mar 21:03 #
@plalex: на секундочку, если шлемы собирались на Земле, то это же элементарная база, вся технологическая цепочка, короче куча заводов которые работают в никуда. Все это опять же можно было прикрыть например производством обычных шлемов на продажу, но все равно это же огромная структура. Может контрразведке стоило ее поискать?
С другой стороны и думать смешно, если окажется что шлемы передавались через софоны. Это значит что материю можно передать через софоны. То есть весь флот санти можно передать через софоны.
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viziterka
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28 Mar 18:03 #
So the man brought Tatiana, they have other accomplices
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KirindasRoman
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06 Apr 04:08 #
@plalex: well, it seems to me that sophons made helmets, they can turn out between spaces, they became bigger, like factories and printed these helmets as much as necessary, then they shrank back to molecules, and the accomplices carried them where they needed to.
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07 Apr 11:20 #
@KirindasRoman: I understood that safons can influence the perception of things, but they cannot physically influence objects, which is why Santi needed accomplices to bring something, to kill someone. If the Safons could do all this, then in 400 years they could kill everyone individually.
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ИнтeрecныйФиллep
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07 Apr 20:26 #
@Poisonishes: I think the introduction of Safonov, that in the book, that in the series is a mistake.. That is, safon opens up limitless possibilities for the genocide of people and the purification of the earth, and now the authors have to introduce some artificial restrictions.

Well, for example, what prevents safon from turning around in the diameter of the ball, for example, 1 cm and at near-light speed to punch every person on earth in the head, like a bullet.

Or, for example, to expand to the entire area of the earth, to cut off humanity from sunlight? In a few decades, people themselves will die out from the cold. And in 400 years the planet will recover.

In general, using safon opens up a limitless ocean of possibilities and not using these possibilities looks just like a scenario Armor
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MarkRaffer
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07 Apr 21:32 #
@ИнтeрecныйФиллep: No... Sophon is just a mechanism for INSTANTANEOUS transmission of information and nothing more. But the Drop that should appear in the second part is yes... but there is simply a wrong interpretation and implementation of what is called Sophon. It's just that Weiss and Benyonff are some kind of handjobs.
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26 Mar 11:28 #
Well, shit, I just looked at it. 🫠
I haven't read any books, I haven't watched any versions, but this series is such a boring game.
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Masim8888
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26 Mar 21:37 #
@_Burn_: It's strange, judging by your story, the series was supposed to go
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Lieserdi
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26 Mar 17:06 #
My God, I'm so happy with this series, I haven't read books, but I watched 3D anime, Chinese turned out to be boring for me from the first episode, I want to note the musical accompaniment separately, they hit not the eyebrow, but the eye, I will look forward to season 2 of this wonderful saga.
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Masim8888
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26 Mar 21:36 #
It's a great series. I'd rather not take it off!
I'm really looking forward to the news about the second season.
Englishmen - keep it up!
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vk513263
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26 Mar 22:31 #
Can you tell me if the Chinese TV series has been filmed before the end of the books?
Or is there also no ending and there will be a sequel?
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26 Mar 22:39 #
@vk513263: No, and it is not yet known. They have a game series based on the first book and an animated series based on the second.
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ShaMarinka
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27 Mar 09:29 #
@Hidji: and why does anime have such a low rating on IMDb? Is he really that bad?
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27 Mar 15:23 #
@ShaMarinka: maybe because the visual is lousy. I've seen animation with graphics much better, so they can, but not in this case for sure. And this is not an anime).
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ShaMarinka
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29 Mar 19:16 #
@Hidji: no, everything turned out to be simpler: the beginning goes according to the book, and from the middle it goes into a ditch with events that are not in the book at all.
Anything that looks like anime is anime)
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Hidji
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29 Mar 22:29 #
@ShaMarinka: Chinese 3D (and not only) is called donghua. If we have to divide, then divide. Otherwise, it's all cartoons and there's nothing to highlight anime separately.😝
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ekrovyakov
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26 Mar 23:35 #
Most of all, I wonder why the names were changed?
-- Trisolarians -> Santi
-- Turned away -> Empty gaze
-- Turned Away - Empty-eyed

I'm not talking about splitting Persians and changing gender/names.

I understand there's a creative reinvention and all that, but why is that?
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ShaMarinka
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27 Mar 09:34 #
@ekrovyakov: What are you comparing it to now? Santi is literally the Chinese title of the book three body. Where does this empty gaze come from? They are called wallfacers, looking at the wall, turned away. Nothing has been changed. The work of translators into Russian hardly makes sense to discuss.
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ekrovyakov
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27 Mar 15:33 #
@ShaMarinka: I compare it with the translation in books, it seems that the translator plunged into the topic quite deeply there. I left all sorts of notes in the margins, for a better understanding of events.

The voice-over studio of the Chinese version of serik probably looked at the books, there is no point in referring to them.
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ShaMarinka
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27 Mar 16:17 #
@ekrovyakov: I haven't watched the Russian voiceover, of course, anything can be there.
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26 Mar 23:56 #
Hospadi, even the scene with the locusts was filmed
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Branson
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29 Mar 22:02 #
@ekrovyakov: And how was it in the book? It seems to have been brought to an idea abruptly.
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KirindasRoman
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06 Apr 04:12 #
@Branson: The Chinese version made this scene more epic and more understandable.
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27 Mar 09:30 #
I read a book and a half and abandoned it, because it smelled of doom and depression... I really liked the series because the characters, on the contrary, are determined to fight, and there is hope that they will succeed) It's a pity that Netflix did not sponsor a more authentic saga (at least 12 episodes), at the beginning of the story they revealed all the riddles too quickly, and the characters were drawn in very large strokes.

But in any case, it turned out well, I really hope to see a sequel. Fingers crossed that the series does not repeat the fate of 1899)
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RbICbKA
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27 Mar 13:45 #
the general meaning of the books was conveyed, in general), albeit in a roundabout way. it is unlikely that they will shoot 3 books each, it will be too expensive
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ИванЛебедевич
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27 Mar 21:45 #
The screamer with Wade didn't get it on the plane, to be honest. It seems to be the biggest discrepancy in the entire series.
If this is a dog's dream, then why is the scene needed?
If this is not a dream, then it is very strange. If sophons can penetrate into the head in order to evoke such visual images without a helmet, then they should also learn to read/inspire thoughts with the same ease. And this cannot happen according to Lore, because it ruins all logic.
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Ytzin
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28 Mar 13:57 #
@ИванЛебедевич: а мигание неба, глаза и вмешательства в работу электроники? Это же такие же манифестации.
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ИванЛебедевич
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30 Mar 17:39 #
@Ytzin: Sophon enveloped the Earth. He could become lucid/ not transparent at night, for example.
At least some explanation can be found for this, unlike.
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28 Mar 17:05 #
Where did Will's brain end up? Or rather, will he fly somewhere? Who has read the book, can I have a mini spoiler
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Keytlin
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28 Mar 18:49 #
Very briefly, everything will be OK. The mission will be completed 100% and the book will reveal the genius of the owner of this brain very well
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ViktoryMartini
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28 Mar 22:41 #
So it's probably necessary to go read books. For some reason, it was Will's story that caught on the most.
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Keytlin
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29 Mar 10:09 #
There is one problem. In the series, some characters represent a kind of synthesis of book characters. And the events in the books are painted over a very long period of time. I'm not trying to dissuade, but I warn you) It's definitely worth reading and it's better to immediately gulp all the books.
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29 Mar 22:09 #
@Keytlin: and how will he meet with San ti if it is the course that has gone astray? This is if the San ti decide to make a detour to pick him up and they will be able to do so when they reach the Milky Way itself, because the series says that he will leave the Milky Way in millions of years at such a speed.
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Keytlin
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31 Mar 18:28 #
I don't remember exactly how the meeting will happen. But the capsule will be intercepted on purpose, since the aliens know about sending the human brain.
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Aeolide
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Yesterday, 09:09 #
@Branson: you might be confusing Milky Way galaxy with Solar system. Milky Way has billions of star systems inside
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viziterka
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28 Mar 18:09 #
In principle, the series is normal. But the plot left a lot of questions.
I still didn't get the idea of sending a frozen brain as a spy into space. Okay, Santi picked him up and allegedly resuscitated him - what's next? How will he send something back to them on earth? What did they want to achieve with this?
The second is the wallface. Okay, they keep something in their brain, ideas. How will they continue to pass it on to other generations so that the Sophons don't find out? How will they get the information they need to store if they are just people and humanity does not yet know how to transmit thoughts?
In short, there are too many conventions of "because because".
I have to go back and finish reading the books, I just read the first one. I hope there's more logic there.
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Keytlin
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28 Mar 18:48 #
Yes, the book is very clearly written about the sent brain and what will come of it. I can't write anymore because it's spoilerful
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ekrovyakov
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28 Mar 20:11 #
@viziterka: "those who have turned away" should not pass on anything secret to generations. They just do incomprehensible things, conduct research, design everything using the resources of the SOP (Council for the Defense of the planet).

Anyway, the idea is to do something without explaining what will then help defeat the aliens.
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viziterka
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01 Apr 17:21 #
Then I still have questions - then you can turn away a lot of people in different parts of the world, countries, etc. Why exactly the three chosen ones? If they cannot convey their idea, it turns out that the only hope is that they will come up with and do it right here and now (that is, until they die). Since when they die, their plan will stop and will not work, and the aliens will arrive only after 400 years, and it seems logical that the developments should somehow be transferred for improvement. Xs as in the book, again, maybe it's more clearly described there.
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Vescero
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02 Apr 11:02 #
@viziterka: And again, this is the problem of a bad film adaptation. It was only in the slip that they showed on the macaque that hibernation is being developed.
You can't gather a lot of people, because if everyone starts doing what they want, then there simply won't be enough resources for all of them. And they are unlimited in them. And no, the point is not to do everything now and die or hand it over. They come up with a plan and give orders to no one, never explaining anything. Neither why nor why. They are told that the conditional plant that the turned away wants to build will be finished in 5 years or the technology in 10-20 years and he will go to sleep in hibernation for how many years it takes. After that, he wakes up and continues where he left off, it will take 400 years for the rest of the planet, they will sleep almost all this time so that in 400 years they will take the fight according to the plan they came up with. There were 4 turned away in the book, by the way, if anything.
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Rift
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28 Mar 21:43 #
@viziterka: They have hibernation technologies (we were shown them in the frozen monkey scene). Wade said that he was going to spend most of his time in hibernation, and in a conscious state he was going to work about a week a year (to stretch the time). In the same way, you can stretch the time for other key figures. Conditionally: wake up, make decisions, give the necessary orders — and then go into hibernation.
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ForcedToWatchTV
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31 Mar 13:39 #
@Rift: In order to live at such a pace, it is necessary to have a complete plan initially.
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raushansh
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30 Mar 11:06 #
@viziterka: I warn you: sending the brain will be in the second book. And the second book is already a separate work where hundreds of years have passed and completely different characters. For some reason, 2 books were mixed in the series and it turned out what happened.
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viziterka
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01 Apr 14:03 #
Yes, thank you, I started reading the second one, but something didn't go right because of the strong jump in time and the change of characters. But still, after the series, I wanted to come back.
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Sqev
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28 Mar 23:55 #
A weak film adaptation, of course, but there is no desire to watch the 30-episode Chinese version either. The first book in the trilogy is highly overrated. After reading the first one, I started the second one only a year later. The first one was so boring. But the second one, on the contrary, turned out to be interesting and eventful. Not surprisingly, at the end, the creators of the series decided to add a few events from the second book.
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mynameisbang
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29 Mar 00:41 #
The idea is interesting, the implementation is lame, more than half of the series has boring dialogues, a couple of episodes were only interesting.
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ЧижикПыжик
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29 Mar 00:51 #
The series is very boring. I don't recommend shooting any more like this. The first 60 pages of the book are more interesting than the whole season, and explain a lot.

In the season itself, I liked:
1/ the first episode. As often happens, the pilot is fit;
2/ series with cutting of the box and passengers.

And now the main thing that I didn't like is a lot of guns that didn't fire, whether it's things, characters, events. Given the boredom of the first season, which you can watch for 1.5 all the dialogues (this is despite a very good cast), I doubt that they will reveal at least half in subsequent seasons, and I want to say "Everything is hoo#ny, let's start over!". Especially after such a finale.
Well, the science series has a lot of scientific inconsistencies.

Well. You have time to read the trilogy. 4 months per book ± :-)
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Wefast
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01 Apr 02:11 #
@Chizhikpyzhik: Which guns didn't fire, but should have?
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TopGun
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29 Mar 01:24 #
A stunningly wonderful series. Everything is good in it, from the actors to the script. Very beautifully shot, good special effects, no sagging plot, constant movement of the plot, no agenda. The opening of the year. Still, don't say anything, but the creators of game of thrones know how to make high-quality movies, and they merged the final of thrones, but they worked great here, well done! I swallowed the season in one gulp, now I'm looking forward to the next one. And yes, the humor in this series is wonderful - "I'm from Manchester =)))"
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Tom_Paris
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02 Apr 21:11 #
@TopGun: over-fat, next time thinner
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vmerkalin99
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29 Mar 06:36 #
It is intriguing, holopam across Europe, but we are waiting for the sequel (Game of Thrones # 2), we will wait for 10 years for the release of the entire series, ahahah))
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29 Mar 11:26 #
I haven't read the original, but Wangyu: the plot of the series will last for all 400 years. The main characters will be frozen and every 100 years they will be defrosted in the microwave, so that throughout all seasons there will be heroes to whom the viewer is used. And san-chan's brain, which has gone into space, will be captured and put back into the body, possibly in a new one. As a result, after 400 years, the characters are still the same
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OrionChrome
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31 Mar 19:04 #
@SergeiH: It will be like this almost until the very end. But the ending (at least in the book trilogy) is such that all these time jumps 100 years ahead are just a grain of sand compared to the epic scope in the finale...
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vlandus
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30 Mar 18:13 #
Why were they talking about the moon? And then somehow they forgot...
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ameliap
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30 Mar 19:33 #
Great, I really liked everything. We took the best and most important thing. Yes, there is less science, but Kamon, the mass audience will not watch a very scientific series. I probably wouldn't either, although I liked the book. But I've always loved physics, and reading a book is a completely different experience than watching a TV series. On the screen, it would be long explanations, there would be little dynamics, the focus would be lost.
I like that events are shown chronologically, and not in the order of presentation in the book. For the visual perception of the plot, this is again a plus.
The love line of Wenjie and Evans is logical, because the book husband is really a more passing character in the plot than Evans, and it is better not to spray the viewer's attention on him. And then, in my opinion, their relationship and the book had some kind of vibe of mutual attraction.
Well, they added racial and gender diversity, it's more interesting.
And to me, Ding/Jin likes the book Cheng Song better. She was quite naive and gentle. This is probably the Chinese view of women, but for a Western viewer the image would be too stereotypical. Although I haven't finished the third book yet, maybe everything will change there too.
In short, I'm waiting for the new season, the Benivays are great again, although they will be showered with shit again (but they will spit on it again and will do what they see fit).
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Eigetsu
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30 Mar 23:48 #
And the books somehow explain why aliens can't just cause man-made accidents everywhere by manipulating computer data, and not just scare numbers in their eyes and erasing video camera recordings?
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31 Mar 00:10 #
Why would they do that? They don't need a disaster-scorched Earth, but a habitable one.
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31 Mar 22:46 #
@ViktoryMartini: so it is not necessary to arrange the detonation of all atomic bombs, it is enough just to gouge the infrastructure to roll back to the Stone Age. And what exactly do the aliens need? Minerals? Water? Oil?
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ShaMarinka
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31 Mar 00:56 #
@Eigetsu: they did not have a goal to kill these scientists, they blocked basic research in order to eliminate the possibility of progress, and the roof congress of scientists was collateral damage. Once they get to Earth, they can do anything to humanity anyway. The only time they had to remove a person who really knew information that was dangerous to them, and it was strange there. In the sense that we could do it more effectively.
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rueful_dream
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31 Mar 00:27 #
I really liked it, I think that the idea to combine characters from different books in one time came out surprisingly successful, it's incredibly interesting to watch, I'm really looking forward to the sequel!
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31 Mar 22:37 #
We have learned how to collapse ten spaces into one proton, but we cannot move a couple of stars far away. A so-so advanced civilization.
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egri4
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01 Apr 00:34 #
I decided to watch the 30th episode of the Chinese version immediately after watching it. And there they describe in great detail their world, motivation and the deployment of a proton in N-dimensional space. Because here we have compressed so much important information into a few minutes.
And now I've already looked at both the 29th and the 28th……
But I got answers to many questions
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Wefast
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01 Apr 02:25 #
I looked at it. I read the comments, it seems that many of those who read / watched the Chinese version are not happy. But what exactly I did not understand. It's like we just avoided filler episodes that don't affect the plot.

The series has reached proton very far. Then it became less interesting. As soon as I heard that they would fly for 400 years, I thought that humanity would easily catch up with them during this time. And then the aliens are like " and we also know ".

I didn't understand what was going on with the timer in my eyes, how this timer made people kill themselves later. Or were they then simply killed by sympathizers from the ship?
Well, in principle, how do they affect what a person sees.

They kept silent about the riddle that the grandmother who invited the aliens told.

I wonder who answered her at the beginning, warning her that it was better not to write anymore. It's unlikely that these are the same aliens, if they have a collective mind there.

Well, what kind of guy is in charge here, who has some kind of international authority. Who is he and why is everyone listening to him? What is written in his documents there.

The ending is funny with these three. I wonder what will happen if all three of them give contradictory instructions. How much can they do. For example, to force some company to close down. To dissolve the government, start a war and all that sort of thing.
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Hidji
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01 Apr 02:36 #
@Wefast: do not fill your head with filler questions that do not affect the plot))).
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02 Apr 10:53 #
@Wefast: As for the timer, this is the image that the protons projected onto the retina of the eye. The goal was to stop the scientific progress of Earthlings. The suicides of the scientists were a side effect. Scientists became disillusioned with physics because the experimental results were unpredictable and contradicted everything they knew about science.
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yurkaaaa
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02 Apr 14:21 #
@Wefast: in short, you didn't even understand what is clear from this film adaptation)
But fillers have been removed and the series is 12 out of 10 at your fingertips)
It looks like you've hit the target audience of this project)
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ИнтeрecныйФиллep
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03 Apr 09:34 #
@Wefast: We are a super-advanced civilization, we have tamed the proton and mastered interstellar travel.

We are so filled with wisdom that our minds are collective (but we have traitors), and we cannot lie.

And let's fly and capture humanity! Who they are, what they are, what technologies they have, we will find out in the process when we fly to their planet. And we also know that their planet is stable, they have no disasters, and they are developing much faster than us.

And then let's tell them that we are flying and we want to conquer them. But we still have 400 years to fly, and we will tell them that we will do everything possible to prevent them from making scientific discoveries, because they are developing faster than us, and we are afraid that we can snatch the cradle.

Better yet, we'll hack into their radio and television communications and call them bugs, so they'll know for sure that we have serious intentions, and even our henchmen will doubt us.

But we are wise, we will tell them all this and we will fly, let them wait for us, let them know about us and prepare for war bypassing our restrictions.

After all, what could possibly go wrong? 🥲
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MarkRaffer
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03 Apr 10:28 #
@ИнтeрecныйФиллep: they are NOT even close to developed and there are more developed ones and the number of them is millions. But, although not, it will be completely spoilers, so read the book - everything is explained there.
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03 Apr 11:33 #
@MarkRaffer: I've read the summary, and I understand what you mean. How Netflix is implemented, I would really like to see
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03 Apr 09:38 #
@Wefast: imagine, the Germans were like this in 1941 - we are coming to you with a war, you are an inferior race, we will capture you, we will march for about six months 🤦
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03 Apr 23:02 #
@ИнтeрecныйФиллep: Listen to yourself at least once when you write. THEY CAN'T LIE, that's why they say everything they think about.
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ИнтeрecныйФиллep
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05 Apr 08:31 #
@Vescero: Isn't that what it says? Yes, for Trisolarians to think and say the same thing. But don't worry, thanks to communicating with people, they will learn to lie
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ameliap
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02 Apr 00:29 #
My bet for the upcoming seasons is that Jin's boyfriend is playing the role of Zhang Beihai.
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Kamimm
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02 Apr 08:45 #
The series is intriguing
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ИнтeрecныйФиллep
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03 Apr 08:04 #
Maybe I missed this moment... But can anyone tell me where the helmets with the game came from on earth? 🤔
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Hidji
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04 Apr 00:07 #
@ИнтeрecныйФиллep: Netflix came up with a joke and did not clarify this point with unknown technologies. In the original, these were just ordinary VR helmets and presence suits, and the game was created by followers of aliens from earthlings based on their stories about the history of the Trisolarians. And it was a simple game, albeit super-sophisticated with a huge volume and online access for everyone + with money for costumes.
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05 Apr 08:33 #
@Hidji: Thanks for the reply. 👍
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03 Apr 15:45 #
The series is interesting, but their problem-solving options are fantastically idiotic. First, they break up the whole ship, not afraid to destroy the screw with the data (okay, the threads won't damage it, but it can be stupidly pinned down with some kind of iron, especially since whole parts of the ship were moving there!). Then they decide to launch a human brain into space, hoping that the aliens have the necessary technologies and that this brain will be able to somehow transfer the data back. Well, what if! You might as well start farting into the atmosphere, and suddenly the aliens are afraid of hydrogen sulfide! Then they began to detonate bombs between the sail and the cargo... You know, I'm not even surprised that the mount didn't hold up, what were they counting on? Plus, it also slowed down the system, as the explosion pushed the load back! Then the UN gives out a fucking idea to put a solution to the problem on one person in fact and recruits a candidate for the fuck you know who... I just want to quote Lebowski!

And the cherry on the cake turned out to be the moment when the heroine checked all the calculations, and then the boss came and said that he secretly added 18 grams to the capsule, as she asked... It reminded me of the recent Gran Turismo, when the coach started telling the rider about a dangerous area on the track when he had already crashed.

But it was unusual. Fact.
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Aprillian
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04 Apr 03:11 #
Tell me, why were you all squeaking with delight? What did I even watch? Apparently, those who have not read the book will not understand, but this should not be the case. It is necessary to shoot in such a way that you like the characters and empathize with them (I'm not here for anyone), so that the logic of actions is still clear and there is no confusion at all (there was not) or at least the acting and the picture is cool (alas, no). Then why all this? Such an interesting story could have turned out, but they threw some senseless anti-scientific nonsense and did not catch anything. That's really a mess. And no, I won't watch the Chinese version.
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MarkRaffer
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04 Apr 20:20 #
@Aprillian: well, the Chinese version is very good at moments, unlike Netflix, where almost everything is bad, with rare, rare exceptions.
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Aprillian
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05 Apr 22:29 #
But there are 30 episodes! And they also write that it's super long. I have this one at a speed of -1.25 , as if it is not going fast 😄
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06 Apr 13:11 #
@Aprillian: there is a fan-made "shortened" version of the Chinese TV series, where not the most important scenes are cut, and there are six hours left. Located by keywords "Three-Body: Disembigged". But the subtitles seem to be only English.
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MashaLarina
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04 Apr 13:20 #
Maybe I missed it, but can someone tell me why they launched the human brain towards the aliens? To what?
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ShaMarinka
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04 Apr 13:47 #
@MashaLarina: get information about Trisolarians from a person who will be in direct contact with them.
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04 Apr 14:33 #
And how will a person transmit it?
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04 Apr 15:53 #
@MashaLarina: the same way they communicate, through sophons
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zhosman-kinoman
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04 Apr 22:39 #
And you will find out how he will transmit it in the next seasons)
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TristisOris
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04 Apr 22:36 #
The timing is one and a half times longer than China, and the events are 5 times less.
Netflix has a talent for spending half a season whining about all sorts of devils and smoking weed. In fact, it is more suitable as a prequel to the Chinese version, with small explanations of the essence of what is happening.
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zhosman-kinoman
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Thank you, of course, Netflix!
But, it was possible to deploy a much larger series, really like game of thrones, so that the whole world would oh& eat again, and not crumple the entire plot with selected parts from all 3 books in the first 8 episodes, this is complete crap!…I don't understand what the reason is, either the producers of ebobo, or the budget was allocated from Gulkin he, we can only guess. I consider the story itself to be a magnificent philosophical science fiction work worthy of a more serious approach in the film adaptation!
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Даня_
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05 Apr 04:47 #
It's fucking awesome. I really missed such fiction and so, 8 episodes, I watched each one with great pleasure.

There are questions, there are complaints, but on the whole I am extremely satisfied and really looking forward to the next seasons.

But what I'm not happy with is the abundance of comments comparing it to the last adaptation. It is impossible to read comments. But on the other hand, being on the other side of the barricades, I now understood by a living example why the witcher is going through exactly the same story,
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ChrisRedfield
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05 Apr 15:05 #
@Даня_: понимаешь, когда люди знают, как могло бы быть, и как получилось в итоге... Оно вроде бы и ничего, но когда задумываешься о потерянном потенциале и времени...

Я лично книги не читал, и сериал мне зашел, но как раз как фанат Ведьмака я отлично понимаю таких людей.
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Даня_
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05 Apr 04:49 #
Really, Will just fly away and that's the end of his story?!
I don't believe it's going to be that simple...
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Damien
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05 Apr 11:42 #
Please explain. the 1st season of Netflix = according to the events of the Chinese version? Is the first season an adaptation of 1-2 books? Will there be subsequent seasons in the distant future where there is a sayfai, or will everything happen in the same timeframe? I haven't read the book
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05 Apr 20:20 #
the 1st season of netflix = this is 1 book (only all the key points were fished out), while a lot of significant moments were thrown out for some reason, + the beginning of the 2nd book and from the 3rd book one storyline has already been crammed into the entire first season. That's such a mess
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zhosman-kinoman
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05 Apr 20:24 #
And about the Chinese version, I would say this: it was shot as much as possible according to the 1st book, almost everything is clear and on the "shelves", the only moment, the plot lines in the chronology were reversed, but they are not thrown out at all, and all this paints a completely different picture of what is happening than Netflix.
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fcsmtmb83
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05 Apr 17:38 #
Is it worth watching the Chinese version?
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zhosman-kinoman
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05 Apr 20:26 #
It's better to read the book or listen to 👌🏽 if it takes too long, then watch the Chinese version
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MarkRaffer
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06 Apr 11:35 #
@zhosman-kinoman: it is better to listen to Igor Knyazev's sugary voice acting...
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06 Apr 00:34 #
Maybe I missed something, but how did the helmet end up on the Ground if you fly 400 s.l to it?
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06 Apr 11:37 #
@a1396833: FOUR light years... just at a speed of 0.1, this translates into 400 ... the helmet is just made according to drawings and this is just an initiative of Weiss and Benioff... In the book, it's just an ordinary helmet/virtual reality suit.
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TristisOris
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07 Apr 20:39 #
@MarkRaffer: I have bad news, but 4/0.1=40.
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07 Apr 21:35 #
@TristisOris: there, accelerations and decelerations are taken into account, since at the speed of light or at 0.1 of the speed of light, the Trisolerian civilization does not have the opportunity to move on a permanent basis. Although other, higher civilizations, not to mention the Nullifiers, though - these will all be spoilers.
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10 Apr 15:59 #
@MarkRaffer: Yes, I know why. but Netflix forgot about it.
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scarcelyinside
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07 Apr 16:47 #
An interesting thing, of course, is that San ti lacks the concept of lying. They cannot distinguish a lie from a fairy tale with a hidden morality, then by this logic they do not understand humor, sarcasm and irony too? Yes, you can build the whole strategy on this 😅
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07 Apr 20:47 #
I was the only one confused that only in this version, the main one who turned away suddenly became some kind of dick from a third-plan role. Literally, an unemployed homeless man who was hanging out with his sidekick's nurse.

Of course, they quickly declared that he had run away from God and that was all. Well, physicist, what's next? There are hundreds of them lying around every meter in uni.
All the way, they poked a pack of main characters in our face, one cooler than the other, all geniuses and so on, and suddenly they chose him. Dazasho? what made him stand out, for what merits. Moreover, the original male role of gg, obviously, went to a woman with nanowires.
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MarkRaffer
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07 Apr 21:37 #
@TristisOris: But he's a SOOOOO! that alone is more than enough... although there was also a Negro in the book - turned away...
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Даня_
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07 Apr 22:01 #
@TristisOris: "some dick" was immediately presented from the first episode as a fairly successful and very cool physicist who worked with E Jr.

Secondly, his eldest had already told him an anecdote before his death, which attracted a lot of San Ti's attention to him and it was for this reason that he was appointed to this role.

Plus, his moral compass is turned in the right direction for humanity.

And the essence is simple: There are only two sophons, and three wise men. Among the three people, there are two people chosen precisely by logic "the best of the best" and the third by logic "a red herring". But a distraction can also bring benefits, because he is still a fairly competent specialist.
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TristisOris
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07 Apr 23:58 #
@Даня_: there are 8 lard bodies in the world, but they accidentally chose the son of the neighbor of the girlfriend of the main character. The rest were taken at least for some merit in society, and he is just a noname. Also, as a character, useless and undisclosed.
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albinka_
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10 Apr 15:29 #
@TristisOris: He was chosen in theory because he was already inside this situation.
It's as if 3 people chose to solve the problem of a dilapidated house: a construction foreman, an engineer and a person who has been living in this house for a long time, is familiar with all the tenants and problems that have arisen during this time, and all the grandmothers-residents of the house complained to him about leaks in the pipes. Well, plus, he is also not some dick from the mountain without a profession, but a plumber (after all, he fumbles for the topic of problems faced by residents). Yes, maybe if he hadn't lived in this house, someone else would probably have been chosen, but this particular dude turned up very successfully..
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thomas_sawyer
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09 Apr 19:54 #
Obviously, it's a very incredible series. Everyone tried very hard
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MDHouse
MDHouse
09 Apr 23:56 #
Having a rich primary source that allows you to show the development of characters, the introduction of scientists into a state of helplessness and how it spreads to humanity. How everyone's reaction to new challenges manifests itself. The authors chose a straightforward way to collect all the characters, get acquainted with the problem and situational solutions. Yes, the characters were introduced, the problem was shown, the epic was poured out. Here's a picture for you. Why reveal the essence of the characters through semitones?. It's unnecessary…
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SilveriaW
SilveriaW
10 Apr 23:47 #
Well Hz
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Gordey
Gordey
12 Apr 11:08 #
Overall, the season turned out to be quite good, although some points caused confusion. However, this is normal now, especially with film adaptations. Prolongation, if there is, I will look at it. I liked the characters in general, except Auggie is some kind of fool
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Sergey01r
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12 Apr 13:02 #
I looked at both versions. I liked Chinese more. Despite the huge amount of water, the characters are better revealed, and the game is shown more interesting. If I could cut it down, everything would be perfect. It's a pity that the Chinese are not going to film the remaining two books yet. Netflix is some kind of a vinaigrette of three books, boring cardboard characters, events generally do not normally reveal themselves.
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The_Hoosier
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13 Apr 07:49 #
The series feels like a typical Netflix, with all its pros and cons. Cardboard characters, everything is quite superficial, but dynamic and well shot. But you don't believe in this world at all. For real politicians to approve the allocation of a huge budget for some kind of murky and incomprehensible program with 30 bombs in a year? Well, look at how the United States is not coordinating assistance to Ukraine in any way now. And it takes years or even decades to develop something like this, but here we managed in less than a year.
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S0N0FMAN
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13 Apr 18:57 #
We didn't understand the joke, let's kill everyone. I fell out when Boshka met them on arrival. In the cartoon, humanity has already developed, there was an elevator to orbit, and here just a random type of physicist will be one of the representatives-defenders of humanity, turned away. Why? Because. What kind of sniper shoots at the wrong head? Well, yes, it was in the original source, but why was it necessary to make a mess and appoint a fool as the arbiter of fate? Did you increase the weight by 18 grams just before the start, put seeds and everything went according to the star? Class. In general, the plan is clear, humanity will become beetles in 400 years, did you imagine the face of San ti when they see the planet of beetles?
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ilpassetto
ilpassetto
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14 Apr 03:37 #
Как же я благодарна всем тем, кто прочитал книги/посмотрел китайскую версию, а потом пришёл сюда и оставил полезные комментарии. Интересный сериал, но разобраться во всём происходящем, не имея подсказок и какой-то поясняющей информации, задача трудновыполнимая. И это хорошо ещё, что первоисточник вообще существует. Будь сериал свежесозданным с нуля проектом, то чёрт бы разобрал все эти сложные задумки и реализацию сценария в угоду скорости=в ущерб деталям.
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