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s01 special-3 — The Giggle

Doctor Who — s01 special-3 — The Giggle

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Runtime: 65 min.
Release Date: 09.12.202309.12.2023 15:00
Watched by: 6 38953.18%
1 season
s01 special-3
s01 special-5 - Children in Need 2023
s01 special-1 - The Star Beast
s01 special-2 - Wild Blue Yonder
s01 special-3 - The Giggle
s01 special-4 - The Church on Ruby Road
s01e01 - Space Babies
s01e02 - The Devil's Chord
s01e03 - Boom
s01e04 - 73 Yards

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miroslava_22
miroslava_22
06 Dec 2023, 12:29 #
It will be a legend.. Wait, wait.. Darno! Legendary!
vk537973
vk537973
10 Dec 2023, 03:53 #
I rewound so many times to see Neil's facial expressions again.. And watching this episode, I realized that I would be a great doctor.
kasinovich
kasinovich
12 Dec 2023, 01:04 #
@vk537973: I've been dreaming about him as a doctor or a master since I met this series
Merlin_Who
Merlin_Who
14 Dec 2023, 15:51 #
@kasinovich: but he's not British
Although with the advent of Disney, new opportunities may open up 🙂
nikitanka
nikitanka
PRO
16 Dec 2023, 10:33 #
@mv_stepanova22: It is quite obvious that there are never too many Neil Patrick dancers)))
miroslava_22
miroslava_22
08 Dec 2023, 09:57 #
*RTD - Russell T. Davis
Whochemlock
Whochemlock
10 Dec 2023, 00:00 #
@mv_stepanova22: oh, judging by the ending, it won't return)))))))
miroslava_22
miroslava_22
10 Dec 2023, 00:06 #
@Valentina1998: I haven't watched it yet 😫
miroslava_22
miroslava_22
10 Dec 2023, 16:56 #
@Valentin1998: it really won't bring back the campaign, but I'm very glad of this arrangement, I think Tennant is comfortable being held hostage by RTD
the episode aired 09.12.2023
chlrm
chlrm
09 Dec 2023, 22:21 #
Donna would like it:
unicornpower
unicornpower
09 Dec 2023, 22:23 #
It's crazy, toymaker! Neil Patrick Harris was great) And I have never seen a more exciting ball game:D

However, I do not know how to react to bi-regeneration. Unfortunately, I haven't seen a Doctor in the new Doctor yet, he's too original, but let's see. This division turned out to be a strange move, as if they just decided to bring Tennant back for ratings, did not know how to bring him out later, and came up with something like that. Of course, I am glad for his "retirement" with a real family, and the Chalk was returned here, but...it turns out that he really wanted to leave everything behind, but he couldn't. And then one part of him decided to completely let go of his past, and the second, so carefree and hyper-joyful, went on to save the universes. Something fabulous and incomprehensible, but thank you for bringing Donna and their duo back to us for at least a couple of pleasant episodes.

Two TARDIS and two Doctors is generally like something contrary to the laws, however, after last seasons we all know that the canons of Doctor Who seem to be still being written and will be written the way the screenwriters want) Maybe Tennant's Doctor will still save the new Doctor's ass, who knows, it will be a good move for the future.

I remember how I used to literally cry at regenerations...I saw more comical things here. It's not bad, it's simple...otherwise.

The funny thing is that they literally shared: one doctor left his pants, the second took his sneakers:D
unicornpower
unicornpower
09 Dec 2023, 22:24 #
unicornpower
unicornpower
09 Dec 2023, 22:24 #
NastyaWizard
NastyaWizard
PRO
10 Dec 2023, 00:15 #
@unicornpower: I thought Tennant's new regeneration would be played through his catchphrase "I don't wanna go"... Basically, it's like it's a good thing they didn't, otherwise it would have been too painful :')
Человек-Фонарик
Человек-Фонарик
10 Dec 2023, 14:34 #
@NastyaWizard: in a sense, he didn't want to leave anyway and never did))
Demonakor
Demonakor
10 Dec 2023, 15:08 #
@NastyaWizard: I also thought that the last phrase would be that now I'm "finally ready to go."
But I'm glad that they beat me quite unexpectedly with this budding, otherwise death from such a shot would have looked like just "for show", because a new actor needs to be introduced.
Katrina_Keynes
Katrina_Keynes
10 Dec 2023, 21:55 #
@Demonakor: Technically "Alonzi!" and there is almost "ready to go". C:
olya_haber
olya_haber
12 Dec 2023, 04:47 #
@unicornpower: Gatva got the underwear, which means....
Whochemlock
Whochemlock
10 Dec 2023, 00:01 #
@unicornpower: This means that Tennant was without underpants!!!!!!! / sorry/
larkin
larkin
10 Dec 2023, 00:58 #
I couldn't stop thinking about it!
MidnightSky
MidnightSky
11 Dec 2023, 01:33 #
@larkin: The same thing, but it's strange that both of them still have a shirt...
KonstantinRomeow
KonstantinRomeow
PRO
11 Dec 2023, 01:35 #
@id380835270: Maybe there were two of them on Tennant? It's certainly strange, but after the Tenth went in seven layers of clothes, I wouldn't be surprised.
Mozzy
Mozzy
11 Dec 2023, 08:50 #
@id380835270: I took a closer look, this is Tennant's undershirt left
Takumikun
Takumikun
10 Dec 2023, 00:51 #
@unicornpower: as for me, this Tennant, who decided to retire while Jokey is busy with his business somewhere, is such a cool setup for the Curator.
KonstantinRomeow
KonstantinRomeow
PRO
10 Dec 2023, 03:24 #
@Takumikun: Brilliant actually. And if desired, this can explain why the Curator has the face of Tom Baker (and Colin Baker in the audio play from Big Finish) - for example, come up with an explanation that this half of bigeneration can regenerate only into old, familiar faces. I like it :-)
ya_awolia_na
ya_awolia_na
10 Dec 2023, 17:21 #
@Takumikun: How can it be curated? If you were in a hurry with him in 2013 (and it was 2013, because Kate Stewart was in the series), and the events of this series took place in 2023? Unless at some point he accidentally went back 30-40 years and couldn't come back , but for me it's still pulling an owl on a globe
Takumikun
Takumikun
10 Dec 2023, 17:57 #
@ya_awolia_na: well, first of all, the Doctor has a time machine and it's not difficult for him to be at least in 2013, at least in 2123421. Well, secondly, my assumption was written after watching the series, but RTD told everyone interested to look at his comments on the series as well, and in them he had already put everything in its place and announced that not only the 14th was bigenerated with the 15th, BUT the ENTIRE TIMELINE of the DOCTOR was BIGENERATED and split into a bunch of fragmented timelines. That is, during each regeneration of the Doctor, a budding occurred and each Doctor after regeneration received his own fragmented timeline where he survived. And you can easily say that the Curator is a fragmented 4th, who was bigenerated and retired years later, but at the same time he definitely has his own Tardis, because as RTD said, every fragmented Doctor has a Tardis, as a gift from a Toy Maker.

I quote RTD below:
"Bigeneration, we discover, is an ancient myth of the Time Lords where instead of a new body taking over from the old body, the new body separates from the old body and both are left alive."

"a whole timeline bigenerated"

"I think all of the Doctors came back to life with their individual TARDISes, the gift of the Toymaker, and they're all out there travelling round in what I'm calling a Doctor verse."

"Sylvester McCoy woke up in a drawer, in a morgue, in San Francisco… and Jon Pertwee woke up on the floor of the laboratory,"

And this is a quote from the Seventh of the new spin-off Tales of the TARDIS, which is also produced by the RTD team "Time streams are funny things. In some, I regenerate. In others, I don't. It's all a matter of perspective."
Иерарх
Иерарх
14 Dec 2023, 00:11 #
@Takumikun: I felt physically sick from every next line I read. Of course, I understand everything, but this is utter nonsense. Well, addiction. Did Chibnell forget to take his stocks of dope out of the office? =(
KonstantinRomeow
KonstantinRomeow
PRO
14 Dec 2023, 00:40 #
@Hierarch: as I have already noted, I don't really like this interpretation of bi-generation either, and I prefer to consider that this did not happen to all Doctors in different timelines, but only with Tennant and Jokey in the main timeline as something unique.
BUT, as with Chibnell's "Temporary Child", which opened the door for endless regenerations of the Doctor without having to beg for a new cycle of regenerations from Timelords every 50 years and for new unknown faces of the Doctor before the First, Davis's "bi-generation" in this slightly drug-addicted explanation with different timelines also opened the door for somewhat is important is that now in the future the aged versions of the Fifth, Sixth, Seventh, Eighth, Tenth, Eleventh, Thirteenth, of course the Fourteenth and all subsequent Doctors will be able to appear in the series as "fragmented" aged versions of themselves from parallel timelines, and not as holograms /projections of consciousness and so on.

Although it would be better if Russell still did not talk about this view of bi-generation in an interview and would just suddenly return in one of the following seasons such a "fragmented" aged Doctor. It would be a cool surprise, the basis of which would have been laid in advance in the anniversary specials in honor of the 60th anniversary of the series. And after meeting with some of the older "fragmented" Doctors from parallel timelines, viewers would speculate about whether the same thing is possible with other Doctor's faces or there is only one parallel timeline.

And now this "the whole timeline of the Doctor has been generated" feels a little like an unnecessary retcon at this particular moment, revealed purely for the purpose of strigger those who scream and cry at every sneeze that the Doctor Who series is being destroyed.
Иерарх
Иерарх
14 Dec 2023, 01:04 #
@KonstantinRomeow: I said everything about Child's Timelessness in the comments back to that series and nothing has changed over the years - a shit twist, Chibnell is an asshole and with this move I devalued the Doctor as a character (but I would have made a child of the Master, it could have turned out well, it would have explained his eternal vitality)

I still tend to treat bigeneration the same way, but with a little less negativity and RTD is still not an asshole. But regeneration has been completely turned into a circus and they no longer cause any emotions except nervous laughter. They lived to see it
EmilD
EmilD
14 Dec 2023, 19:57 #
@Hierarch: I don't really understand why everyone is so fussing with these regenerations like with a sacred cow, regeneration is just a way to continue the series, it shouldn't be any special, it's only in new school that they made a superdramatic event out of it, in the same classic half of the Doctors regenerated quite calmly without angst and dramas, like the 13th and like the 11th. I'm still silent about the Seventh, who was just shot like a dog in a doorway and regenerated in the morgue)
KonstantinRomeow
KonstantinRomeow
PRO
15 Dec 2023, 00:24 #
>>I don't really understand why everyone is so fussing with these regenerations like a sacred cow
gt;it's only in new school that they made a superdramatic event out of it

To be fair, the vast majority (about 84%) only watched new school. On MyShows, classics has 23340 viewers, and newschool has 149502
(Newnewschool has 4175 so far, but I think when the finals are over and the episodes begin, people will catch up)
Иерарх
Иерарх
15 Dec 2023, 03:06 #
@EmilD: First of all, regeneration can't help but be special. There, for a second, a person (or even more than one) says goodbye to the role / series, to which he gave several years of his life and into which he put his soul. And this is even taking into account the fact that for them it carries much greater cultural value, they grew up on it.

And secondly, what does angst and drama have to do with it? Did I say a word about that? The emotional spectrum is much wider. And by the way, the "superdramatic event" in new school was only the regeneration of the same 10th, and I can't stand it. Well, the 12th has caught up with a little more theatrics. The 9th generally left with a smile (my favorite regenerations are just his and the 11th).

First of all, I am not satisfied with the violation of the internal logic and physics of the series. Why the fuck did the clothes regenerate with the Doctor from the 13th to the 14th? Although this has never happened, and even in exactly the same series during forced regeneration, this was not observed? And twice!
Why the fuck did the clothes go through the clothes and split during the current budding? The meta-crisis 10th quite logically grew out of the hand naked, so here the clothes should have torn and the two of them would have stood naked, even if they had brought unit clothes.
KonstantinRomeow
KonstantinRomeow
PRO
15 Dec 2023, 10:27 #
@Hierarch: so they would immediately write "I wanted to look at Tennant in women's clothes and at a naked Joke," which, by the way, I agree with, I would also not mind
Иерарх
Иерарх
15 Dec 2023, 11:46 #
@KonstantinRomeow: "to see Tennant in women's clothes"
With a show-off, we had never seen him in it before =3
Нестин
Нестин
15 Dec 2023, 17:27 #
@Hierarch: >This has never happened
Also, the First regenerated into the Second in new clothes.
Иерарх
Иерарх
15 Dec 2023, 18:10 #
@Nestin: The first pancake is lumpy, they were just learning =3
EmilD
EmilD
15 Dec 2023, 18:28 #
@Hierarch: when I was talking about regeneration, I meant the process itself, how the Doctor regenerates, and the actor can say goodbye not during the regeneration itself, but long before it, and this already depends on the skill of the screenwriter)

RTD has already explained why Jody regenerated along with her clothes, there is nothing to discuss here, everything has already been forgotten and forgotten.

gt; What the hell happened during the current budding, the clothes went through the clothes and separated

What the hell are sand monsters out of your eyes for? What the fuck is the moon doing with this egg? Why the fuck is the Statue of Liberty a crying angel?

You can go on like this all day, Doctor Who has always been and will sometimes be illogical in places. You either have to put up with this, or not look at it at all, but you just don't have to say that this didn't happen before, it would have happened more than once.
Иерарх
Иерарх
18 Dec 2023, 12:19 #
@EmilD: "RTD has already explained why Jody regenerated along with her clothes, there is nothing to discuss here, everything has already been forgotten and forgotten"
Well, you should at least quote or tell me where to find it, otherwise I obviously missed it, since I'm asking this question. And, of course, you are strong, you can speak for everyone at once = 3
(P.S. if you have to explain something not in the series, but outside of it, this already says a lot)

"What the hell are sand monsters out of your eyes for? What the fuck is the moon doing with this egg? Why the fuck is the Statue of Liberty a crying angel? You can go on like this all day."
You can't. My question concerns the violation of basic physics, which the series did not so brazenly bolt on without explanation before. It's as if people on Earth in the series suddenly started jumping 10 meters up out of the blue and no one would pay attention to it or explain it in any way. And you're just exaggerating and trying to give an example of the plot-forming elements of the series that have their nominal explanations (it doesn't matter if they're good or bad, but they are). It's not the same thing.
KonstantinRomeow
KonstantinRomeow
PRO
18 Dec 2023, 23:47 #
@Hierarch: about regeneration in clothes, Russell T. Davis explained that "shooting a man in women's clothes would be disrespectful to trans women and drag culture" or something like that, I don't remember the exact quote, I'm too lazy to look. But as @EmilD noted, all the fans really forgot and scored together. Well, rather, at first they agreed that it was stupid, and Jody's costume is not that pronounced feminine, and in general Russell T. Davis somehow overdoes it with caution (which he later aggravated with a statement about Davros), but the fact that David Tennant did not stand a little in the clothes of the Thirteenth Doctor is not the end of the world, so that no one really began to attach importance to this, and you probably shouldn't either ;-)
EmilD
EmilD
19 Dec 2023, 19:38 #
@KonstantinRomeow: not quite right, here's the full quote

"I immediately confidently decided that I did not want David to wear a Jody suit during regeneration. It seems to me that the theme of men dressing up in "women's clothes" — the theme of drag — is very delicate. I am a big fan of this culture and I really appreciate the dignity inherent in it. But it should be done with great intelligence and respect. And, with all due respect to Jody and her Doctor, it seems to me that if a heterosexual man wears her clothes, it might look like a mockery. If you dress up a tall Scotsman in her costume, it may seem like a mockery. And I guarantee you that some newspapers would print only this frame indefinitely. If they could play the topic of gender sarcastically or critically, they would do it. We could have dressed the Doctor up as a knight, or a god, or William Hartnell, but only a photograph of David in what is considered women's clothing would have reached print. And then it would turn into a weapon — as a mockery of feminine features, of drag, of this culture. And I decided that this was not going to happen. Knowing that David would appear after regeneration, I firmly decided that clothes should regenerate. And nothing would have changed my mind."
EmilD
EmilD
19 Dec 2023, 19:42 #
@Hierarch: it is possible, it is possible, there is no basic physics, the screenwriters come up with what they want and when they want, without this the series would not have lasted so many years. In addition, very often the regenerations were different from each other.

I am not exaggerating anything, I have given examples that have not been sufficiently explained. The series periodically put a bolt on different things, now, as they say, they put a bolt on regeneration, although I do not agree with this.

And as for bigeneration, it seems to me that it is too early to draw any conclusions, maybe some answers will be given during the season, besides, there are already some rumors on this topic.
id5098067
id5098067
01 Jan 2024, 03:15 #
@Takumikun: Thanks to your comment, I found out that a new spin-off has been released? And with the Tardis? What is it?
Thank you! There will be something to see for the New Year holidays :)
Immensely grateful!
Takumikun
Takumikun
01 Jan 2024, 03:19 #
@id5098067: well, in fact, there are just 6 popular episodes from the classic series, but in the first 5 minutes and the last 5 minutes there are new scenes in the TARDIS of memories where old Companions and old Doctors meet after a long time. For example, Stephen meets Vicky and between themselves they recall a series about a Monk and after that a series of classics about a Monk begins
_Anastasia___
_Anastasia___
07 Jan 2024, 18:22 #
Oh, doctors began to change so quickly that this is no longer there: the generation has grown up. Won 13 was enough for a couple of years. I didn't even notice. She left as she came.
andreyck
andreyck
07 Jan 2024, 18:41 #
@fb1199151: this is a turnaround, the 13th came in 2018, dumped at the end of 2022, the 10th 2006-2010, the 11th 2010-2014, the 12th 2014-2018. From New School, she spent the longest time in Doctors
KonstantinRomeow
KonstantinRomeow
PRO
07 Jan 2024, 18:51 #
The first episode with the Thirteenth Doctor "The Woman Who Fell to Earth" was released on October 7, 2018, the last episode with the Thirteenth Doctor "The Power of the Doctor" was released on October 23, 2022. That is, purely by time, Jodie Whittaker was a Doctor for 4 years and 2 weeks, that is, longer than:
- David Tennant as the Fourteenth (1 month)
- Peter Capaldi (3 years 2 months)
- John Hurt (1 day)
- Matt Smith (3 years 8 months)
- David Tennant as the Tenth (4 years and 1 week)
- Christopher Eccleston (4 months old)
- Paul McGann (1 day)
- Sylvester McCoy (2 years 3 months)
- Colin Baker (2 years 8 months)
- Peter Davison (2 years 2 months)
- Patrick Troughton (2 years 7 months)
- William Hartnell (2 years 11 months)

Only Tom Baker and, with a stretch, John Pertwee were in the role of the Doctor for so long that "a generation grew up"

I understand what you mean - the Thirteenth had short seasons (10, 10 and 6 episodes due to the removal of Capaldi, who has 3 seasons of 12, or with Tennant and Smith, who have 3 seasons of 13) and there are also fewer special editions, and the breaks are long because of the coronovirus. I would also like more Jody, and unfortunately Jokey's seasons will also be small (in the first and second seasons there will be only 8 episodes each)
But you are still wrong about the "couple of years"
shurochka_a
shurochka_a
11 Jul 2024, 13:16 #
Yes, I agree. It also seemed to me that Judy was very little, but I really liked her.
valeyard
valeyard
10 Dec 2023, 20:33 #
@unicornpower: Don't worry about the duo, the sitcom Doctor Donna is waiting for us anyway)! I believe.
Adrasteya
Adrasteya
16 Dec 2023, 11:29 #
@unicornpower: What's the canon in Doctor Who? It is not written, it is simply missing. That's the beauty of the series.
GloriaFlowers
GloriaFlowers
30 Dec 2023, 07:53 #
@unicornpower: Doctor Who doesn't have a canon and that's what I like so much about this universe. What can be the canons in the universe where time can be rewritten?)
Tonybofthedead
Tonybofthedead
18 Oct 2024, 15:13 #
@unicornpower: It's cool that now, in theory, we can get some kind of special where there will be 3 Tennants: The Doctor-Tennant from season 2-4, the Doctor; the Doctor-Tennant who hangs out with Rose (suddenly he slips from another universe); and the 14th Doctor-Tennant.
Hype)
chlrm
chlrm
09 Dec 2023, 22:27 #
DO YOU COME IN A RANGE OF COLORS?
polya_i_luga
polya_i_luga
09 Dec 2023, 22:30 #
BI 💅 REGENERATION
chlrm
chlrm
09 Dec 2023, 22:35 #
THE BEST LIPSINK 💅 Slay, Kween 🎉
CaptainPanda
CaptainPanda
09 Dec 2023, 22:35 #
I absolutely do not know how to relate to this scenario move
, but on the stage of a family dinner I cried, of course
Merlin_Who
Merlin_Who
09 Dec 2023, 22:36 #
PTSD-2010 is canceled
jjewuz
jjewuz
09 Dec 2023, 22:45 #
something about bi-regeneration is not very good at all... I didn't get the same emotions that I had when I looked at the real regeneration.
just here, as we see, no one is offended by the fact that a black man walks in his underpants in front of everyone, but a tennat in uni sex clothes would offend. okay.

in general, the plot with the toyboy is very cool, a pleasant series, except for the end, which came out very contradictory.
K2isOn
K2isOn
09 Dec 2023, 22:46 #
I just want to start by saying that JOKEY IS JUST A STAR!!! The perfect casting for the role of the next Doctor, you can immediately feel his personality, zest, strength and all that the main character should have! And I really liked that he was sassy and sexy right away, exactly what I was hoping for while waiting for his dock)) (and I also yelled all the time that he was running around without pants:D)
But as for the scenario move, to be honest, it's a mess in my head, I don't know what I feel at all. I knew about double regeneration, and in principle I liked how it all looked (the moments between David and Jokey just hit the heart, ESPECIALLY when the 15th calmed and hugged the 14th). I like that David was given the opportunity to return to the series, technically anytime, that Donna wasn't killed, that he now has a family. And from the point of view of rebooting the universe, it is also clear why they did what they did (even the second TARDIS!). But in general it looked somehow... Is it too short, or what? I don't know how to explain it myself, I need to think about it.
Another of the advantages of the series is Neil Patrick Harris, who fits in perfectly, and a huge number of mentions of previous satellites and companions, events, places that happened to previous versions of the Doctor (special thanks for mentioning River, she screamed!!!)
In short, I have no doubt about Joking at all, and in anticipation of all the episodes with him, and let's see where the plot leads us in the end

P.S. Manicured nails that took a Toyboy's tooth - a hint of a new Master?
CaptainPanda
CaptainPanda
09 Dec 2023, 22:48 #
@K2isOn: I hope the Master will be a woman again, the Mistress was too awesome)
K2isOn
K2isOn
09 Dec 2023, 22:49 #
@CaptainPanda: that's exactly what I was thinking) And I agree!
K2isOn
K2isOn
09 Dec 2023, 23:00 #
@K2isOn: Yes, and the return to the face of the 10th was explained as stupidly as possible. Why the 10th one? If we take the number of sufferings, then the 9th was right after the war, the 11th lost the Ponds, who were his family, the 12th lost Clara and Bill, the 13th Yaz and so on
I want to tie it somehow to the fact that it was necessary to return Donna's memory, but uh, it seems to me that I'm already looking for loopholes
Человек-Фонарик
Человек-Фонарик
10 Dec 2023, 14:43 #
@K2isOn: I was reminded of "Doctor's Day" 10 years ago. "Moment" characterized the 11th as a person who forgets, and the 10th as a person who regrets. So, there is a certain logic here.
babygirlpascal
babygirlpascal
10 Dec 2023, 17:56 #
@K2isOn: for some reason I assumed that Shirley took the tooth, no wonder Kate said "I saw you walking." For some reason, I would like to think that this was said for a reason. Although, most likely, I am very mistaken and just pulling this version by the ears)
miroslava_22
miroslava_22
10 Dec 2023, 18:37 #
@babygirlpascal: What if Shirley is the new Regeneration Wizard, or is it too much 🤔
Rumy
Rumy
PRO
10 Dec 2023, 19:23 #
@babygirlpascal: Someone with a red manicure took a tooth. Shirley's nails were not painted, I watched the moment when she catches a yellow ball
babygirlpascal
babygirlpascal
10 Dec 2023, 19:47 #
@Rumy: well, then I'm wrong) anyway, I wonder whose hand it was, and in what guise the Master will be (and he obviously will be, otherwise they wouldn't put such an emphasis on this tooth).
babygirlpascal
babygirlpascal
10 Dec 2023, 19:53 #
@mv_stepanova22: who knows) I don't know about the new regeneration, but for some reason this lady bothers me, there is some kind of understatement in her, or something.
Нестин
Нестин
10 Dec 2023, 20:06 #
@babygirlpascal: I was so freaked out when Kate started screaming that I saw Shirley walking. This is literally the reaction of some viewers when she crossed her legs in the Star Beast.
valeyard
valeyard
10 Dec 2023, 20:44 #
@Nestin: It's strange that no one says here that she went after the dance and no one said anything about it
abrajune
abrajune
10 Dec 2023, 22:57 #
@babygirlpascal: Kate Lethbridge-Stewart had red nails before
KonstantinRomeow
KonstantinRomeow
PRO
11 Dec 2023, 01:12 #
@valeyard: after she crossed her legs in "Star Beast", a lot of people made an unfair fuss about it, which led to a backlash - people with disabilities were grateful to the actress for showing representation and that "not all disabilities are the same," the actress herself explained on social networks that there was no point in throwing her leg over, she just reflexively got comfortable, the audience who saw this actress in the last Russell T. Davis series and know that she has problems not with her legs but with her back began to stubbornly explain and prove it, as well as enter into discussions with people who did not know what kind-then the strollers can rise or even take several steps and you do not need to row all the strollers under one comb.

So by the "Chuckle" there were almost no people left who could react unpleasantly to the fact that the actress stood for a while in this episode and looked like
valeyard
valeyard
11 Dec 2023, 07:51 #
@KonstantinRomeow: as in life, I don't care, but after Kate's claims, when she stands in front of everyone, it's strange that no one in the plot reacted, then why did they do it or it wasn't planned and there was a reflex again
OrangeElephant
OrangeElephant
26 Dec 2023, 00:43 #
@valeyard: so Kate's whole speech at this moment is the words of an angry person who does not think about others. Kate herself reacted to this in the story, immediately apologizing to Shirley after
irriisska
irriisska
08 Jun 2024, 05:10 #
In the last episode of season 3, after the master's body burned down, a ring remained from him, and then, too, someone with red nails took this very ring. Maybe with the tooth as well, they just made a kind of mini reference to season 3
JuliaCheckmareva
JuliaCheckmareva
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07 Sep 2024, 02:33 #
@irriisska: It seems that the Master's wife was with a red manicure then.
serie_mordare
serie_mordare
PRO
09 Dec 2023, 22:49 #
Even somehow there is nothing to say to the point... The move with bi-generation is strange, even anticlimactic and with cringe humor. The only highlight of the special for me is the Toymaker. A super antagonist who was interesting to watch, and the episode with dancing to the Spice Girls is so cool! But again, the whole series was pumped up, pumped up how dangerous he is and it is impossible to defeat him and that's how everything was leaked ... yeah.
In general, Wild Blue Yonder is the best of the 3 specials, but this is not at all the level of the anniversary episodes of kmk.
serie_mordare
serie_mordare
PRO
09 Dec 2023, 23:10 #
@serie_mordare: Also RTD really looked at Doctor Who and said, "Hmm, what else wasn't in this series? Precisely! An Emotionally stable Doctor!" And here he is Joking.
serie_mordare
serie_mordare
PRO
09 Dec 2023, 23:16 #
@serie_mordare: Tennant creates another copy of himself to live with his former companion:
Allons_y
Allons_y
09 Dec 2023, 22:50 #
Now I will wait for Martha to get her Tennant for some years. And anyway, let's all have a Tennant. And let Tennant have his own Tennant, too.
I want a spinnoff in short, where the 14 Doctor meets 10 and they hang out together in the Tardis.
valeyard
valeyard
10 Dec 2023, 20:47 #
@Allons_y: it's better in a parallel universe with 3, and then Rose comes in and is like: What???
AlsHot
AlsHot
07 Jan 2024, 22:53 #
@Allons_y: Oh, how many times in the series have I waited for at least ONE mention of Martha....she is my beloved companion, and it hurts me that she is never remembered;(
Mielkhor
Mielkhor
09 Dec 2023, 22:50 #
It was... strange. Oh well. I hope Tennant will now periodically appear at the most crucial moments
polya_i_luga
polya_i_luga
09 Dec 2023, 22:51 #
some kind of chaotic ending happened, I didn't even have time to realize that Tennant was ALL before the trailer for the next episode... of course, it was all very sweet and sad, but somehow incomprehensible... How long will the fourteenth live on earth? will there be some kind of crisis because of two doctors? What happens when Dr. Tennant dies?? what's going on anyway???

Okay, from the good news: I'm delighted with the picture. They're using this Disney budget to the fullest! It's massive, but it looks very authentic!!!
Neil Patrick Harris was a wonderful solution. This mix of German and English, emotions, movements, he's amazing!! the dance was just KILLER, the vibe of the Master, but better)
the dolls are creepy, all the time I was thinking about Billy from the Saw and about Chucky. in general, they decided to focus on horror movies in recent episodes, and I like it!!!
Jokey is amazing, I didn't expect to see him so early, but I enjoyed every second (thanks for not giving him pants). They are such a contrast, it's a hug and a kiss on the forehead, I died of sweetness, by the
way, I got sneakers when I separated. I wonder if this is a metaphor that Tennant won't need them anymore, or just an accident?...

All in all, the series is amazing again. at the beginning it seems to be delayed, but then everything makes sense very quickly. I hope that soon we will find out the answers to all questions. 8/10 for the misunderstandings with bi-regeneration, but I hope RTD is hatching some kind of plan and we'll get back to it
KonstantinRomeow
KonstantinRomeow
PRO
10 Dec 2023, 03:39 #
@polya_i_luga: well, there are actually two options here.

The first option is that the 14th Doctor is now needed for some kind of spin-off, because RTD promised to expand the universe, and then during the regeneration of the Fifteenth, he can merge back into one with him, as the Observer merged with the Fourth to regenerate into the Fifth.

The second option was thrown up in the comments above and I like it more - the Fourteenth one will someday regenerate into the Curator we saw in "The Day of the Doctor". This can also be summed up by the Curator's words to the Eleventh after [I never forget faces] - "and soon you will meet/visit some old acquaintances", and after that the Twelfth has the face of Cecilia, and the Fourteenth has the face of the Tenth, and the Curator himself has the face of the Fourth (and later the voice of the Sixth). It is possible that even Valeyard is one of the regenerations of THIS branch of the Doctor, somewhere between the Fourteenth and the Curator.
And also from the fun, if one day one of the future writers of the series wants to rewrite the events of "The Judoon Fugitive", "Temporary Children" and "Stream" a little, then now Dr. Ruth may be one of the subsequent regenerations of the Fourteenth, this would explain the presence of her TARDIS in the form of a policeman booths despite the fact that she was supposed to be before Hartnell according to Chibnell's idea, and the problems with the fact that she does not remember how she was Thirteenth and was in the Division can be explained by some kind of timey-vimey.

P.S. Anyway, I think it was done for Tennant. Now he has formally remained a Doctor forever. And if he has another argument with Mayel Shin like "I'm a Doctor!"-"Not anymore!", David will be able to say "Suck it."
Takumikun
Takumikun
10 Dec 2023, 12:11 #
@KonstantinRomeow: in short, RTD said that he would explain the new realities in the comments to the series and I found extracts of quotes from these comments and in short it's tin...he says that this bigeneration occurred at once at all times and with each regeneration a fragmented timeline was formed where the regenerated Doctor survived and continued to travel and that is why the Doctor sometimes met older past Doctors, everything is simple - these are fragmented versions of the same Doctors who survived in their timeline. For example, in this way you can explain the series "Two Doctors" where the Second along with Jamie, both aged and at the same time mention Wargame, although they can't because in this series Jamie's memory was erased, and the Doctors forcibly regenerated into a Third, and now this is explained by the fact that the Sixth crossed with the fragmented Second, who saved his timeline his companions and went on to travel.
Here I tried to depict the canons of the new timeline. It turns out that we have a main timeline where there is an actual Doctor + all the past ones before their regenerations and the Doctors' answers after regeneration. That is, each Doctor now has a version from the main timeline and a fragmented version, but Tennant has as many as 5 versions: the main Tenth, metacrisis, fragmented Tenth, Main Fourteenth and fragmented Fourteenth. Let them shoot a new version of the Five Doctors where all the Doctors are Tennant.
Takumikun
Takumikun
10 Dec 2023, 12:14 #
@KonstantinRomeow: Вот прямые цитаты РТД чтобы было понятно:

"a whole timeline bigenerated".


"I think all of the Doctors came back to life with their individual TARDISes, the gift of the Toymaker, and they're all out there travelling round in what I'm calling a Doctor verse."

"Sylvester McCoy woke up in a drawer, in a morgue, in San Francisco… and Jon Pertwee woke up on the floor of the laboratory"
polya_i_luga
polya_i_luga
10 Dec 2023, 12:32 #
@KonstantinRomeow: God, this is very cool, thank you!!! I hope Ruth is really remembered, she has a huge potential
about Michael to the point, I think about that video from the first series of special releases ahaha
polya_i_luga
polya_i_luga
10 Dec 2023, 12:33 #
@Takumikun: RTD is a genius, if that's really the case
Takumikun
Takumikun
10 Dec 2023, 12:55 #
@polya_i_luga: The seventh of Tales of the TARDIS: ""Time streams are a funny thing. In some cases, I regenerate. Others don't. It depends on which perspective to look at"
valeyard
valeyard
10 Dec 2023, 20:52 #
@KonstantinRomeow: Who is the Observer and how do you know about him?
Takumikun
Takumikun
10 Dec 2023, 22:31 #
@valeyard: This is a classic character from the era of the Fourth Doctor. When the Fourth regenerated, the Observer merged with him
KonstantinRomeow
KonstantinRomeow
PRO
11 Dec 2023, 01:17 #
@valeyard: although I have not watched anything from the classics except "Measurements in Time" and what came out in "wild times" if it is considered part of the classics at all (1996 feature film, "The Curse of Mortal Death" by Steven Moffat, the cartoon "The Scream of the Shalka"), but I have watched a lot of videos on YouTube considering "the best moments", "the best episodes" and other "features" of the classic Doctor Who. So I am superficially familiar with the characters of the first seven Doctors, and with the circumstances of their regeneration, and with some alien races and robots that have not yet appeared in the updated series.
KonstantinRomeow
KonstantinRomeow
PRO
11 Dec 2023, 06:05 #
@Takumikun: with all my adoration and respect for Russell T. Davis, this idea of his to write "stories from the TARDIS" into the canon of the main series by "in fact, bi-generation occurred simultaneously with all incarnations of the Doctor and there are timelines with the older former faces of the Doctor" somehow I don't really like it. It's a bit like J. K. Rowling revealing the unknown secrets of "Harry Potter" [such as wizards shitting on the floor and then removing waste products with magic] on his Twitter, although it would be better to leave many things unexplained so that fans could build their guesses and theories.
I like fan theories linking bigeneration to the Curator more.

So for myself personally (headcannon) I prefer to consider Tennant's bigeneration/Gatva was something unique, inconsistencies with the Second and Jamie are "season 6B", and "Stories from the TARDIS" is not a canon, but just a pleasant gift for fans of classics. At least until the "splinter" Fourth, Fifth, Sixth and Seventh seasons begin to appear in the Fifteenth.
Takumikun
Takumikun
11 Dec 2023, 07:43 #
@KonstantinRomeow: well, you can hardly explain it like that, because this is only the prologue of a new era of DC and most likely he will use it in the future.
valeyard
valeyard
11 Dec 2023, 07:56 #
@Takumikun: It felt like we were watching different TV shows, but I just remember that he fell, and I remember it as the most ridiculous death... The campaign failed again in a parallel world...
Takumikun
Takumikun
11 Dec 2023, 08:07 #
@valeyard: Well, the Watcher not only appeared there, he was there before, several scenes were built on this, and at the end, when the Doctor fell, the Watcher entered him and he regenerated
Igrok1
Igrok1
09 Dec 2023, 22:52 #
The coolest special of the three. It feels like an anniversary series.
Bi-regeneration is normal, but I didn't like that two Docks ended up remaining in the universe (also with two Tardis). Tennant deserved a great ending and a decent regeneration after the shameful "I don't want to leave", but he didn't leave here either. After that, Dr. Jokey will seem like some kind of by-product, because the main Doc was retired on Earth. I hope that RTD has plans for the "original" Doctor and this line will not just hang open for the rest of the years.
NaruHinka
NaruHinka
09 Dec 2023, 23:34 #
@Igrok1: on the contrary, the 14th becomes a side doctor, because the series does not follow him, and the story restarts with a new fresh doc, but it seems to completely reject all the important past that we all followed...
Darth_Rexther
Darth_Rexther
10 Dec 2023, 00:32 #
@NaruHinka: Rather, it just lets go of the past. It's not for nothing that the numbering was changed. We had (literally) a new school for retirement, and now we have a New School (figuratively speaking).
Amyinthetardis
Amyinthetardis
10 Dec 2023, 22:18 #
@Darth_Rexther: I hope we live to see new New new New new New new New new New new New new New new new school
Nog
Nog
09 Dec 2023, 23:06 #
Nog
Nog
10 Dec 2023, 01:10 #
TimelordRu
TimelordRu
24 Dec 2023, 23:34 #
@Nog: It was luxurious, it's a pity that it was so short.
Nog
Nog
10 Dec 2023, 01:10 #
albulka_
albulka_
11 Dec 2023, 00:50 #
@Nog: this chaos during the dance caused me strong associations with 'Everything everywhere at once' and Harley Quinn, whose guns also fired confetti 😅
PlanePassenger
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Nog
Nog
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NaruHinka
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09 Dec 2023, 23:32 #
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polya_i_luga
polya_i_luga
09 Dec 2023, 23:41 #
@NaruHinka: said absolutely no one ever
KonstantinRomeow
KonstantinRomeow
PRO
10 Dec 2023, 03:46 #
@NaruHinka: I like Chibnell too and missed him during the long break between "The Power of the Doctor" and "Star Beast," but Steven Moffat and especially Russell T. Davis are great guys too.

In addition, if spin-offs like "Torchwood" and "The Adventures of Sarah Jane" start to come out again under the leadership of RTD, then Chibnell can do one of them if he wants. Chibnell wrote the scripts for OBJECTIVELY THE BEST episodes of Torchwood.
PlanePassenger
PlanePassenger
01 Feb 2024, 05:15 #
@KonstantinRomeow: He's good as a screenwriter, but as a showrunner, well, that's it...
chlrm
chlrm
09 Dec 2023, 23:41 #
But I didn't understand. They listed all the Doctor 's partners except Martha 🤔
EmilD
EmilD
09 Dec 2023, 23:48 #
@chlrm: we listed those who died, Martha didn't die, and we didn't mention the 13th satellites either
chlrm
chlrm
10 Dec 2023, 00:25 #
@EmilD: Oh, right. thanks for the clarification :)
KonstantinRomeow
KonstantinRomeow
PRO
10 Dec 2023, 03:49 #
@chlrm: The toymaker explained about the companions who were after Donna, and Martha actually was before her. And besides, Donna met Marta personally a couple of times.
I was more surprised that in the story about Amy, the Toymaker used one doll and did not tell about Rory, that was strange.
valeyard
valeyard
10 Dec 2023, 20:59 #
@KonstantinRomeow: Rory has always been an attachment to Amy for the Doctor, it has been talked about a lot, but never the opposite
id264460076
id264460076
10 Dec 2023, 12:46 #
They listed everyone who was after Donna and died.
chlrm
chlrm
09 Dec 2023, 23:43 #
Well, I'm immensely glad that Rosa and Donna got their Doctor and a happy ending. 💔🥹
Рэйдан
Рэйдан
10 Dec 2023, 11:53 #
@chlrm: It seems like Tennant is the only person of the doctor who has his copies with a specific companion.
And look at it - Martha will get a separate doctor one day
AnastasiaOswin
AnastasiaOswin
PRO
07 Jan 2024, 00:15 #
It seems to me that Martha does not need her own Doctor) She's doing great and living her happy life without him. And as far as I remember, she gave up on adventures herself, she wanted to live normally.
Mysterious-007
Mysterious-007
14 Jan 2024, 00:00 #
@Raydan: Many of us once wanted our own copy of the Doctor in Tennant's regeneration)
Whochemlock
Whochemlock
10 Dec 2023, 00:02 #
The first half of the series is Neil Patrick Harris straight pysch-pysch!!
The second half is a joke, pliz, put on your pants) It's not that I don't like it, but I probably should)))
Рэйдан
Рэйдан
10 Dec 2023, 11:54 #
@Valentin1998: well, or at least shorts, there's nothing to shine panties in front of everyone
KonstantinRomeow
KonstantinRomeow
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10 Dec 2023, 16:47 #
@Raydan: It's not bad that Jokey Gatva shone his underpants. The bad thing is that David Tennant and Jodie Whittaker didn't do it.

Sorry XD
Рэйдан
Рэйдан
10 Dec 2023, 16:52 #
@KonstantinRomeow: I have nothing against Tennant. But Jody can be howled at and called a sexist
KonstantinRomeow
KonstantinRomeow
PRO
10 Dec 2023, 17:05 #
@Raydan: that's why I named two, I'm for equality :-)

I would also call Smith, but in fairness, he just shone with everything - in the "Eleventh Hour" without a shirt, in the "Guest" in one towel in the "Doctor's Time" generally naked XD
valeyard
valeyard
10 Dec 2023, 21:01 #
@Raydan: it would be funny if in the next episode he would save the world in such an outfit DDD as in all the canons
valeyard
valeyard
10 Dec 2023, 21:07 #
@valeyard: and everyone's like, why is the guy in the underpants bossing and telling us what to do? And he's like, because I'm a Doctor and I have nothing to hide. And what are your pants hiding? I once had pants with big pockets. And what I didn't keep there. So they would have kept silent and obeyed until the world came to an end...
chlrm
chlrm
10 Dec 2023, 00:24 #
after several sessions with a good psychologist:
Anica22
Anica22
10 Dec 2023, 00:35 #
I imagine Martha's shock when she realizes that all the companions except her have received their own personal version of Tennant!
Darkes
Darkes
10 Dec 2023, 02:16 #
@Anica22: Martha can still see this version, the 14th is not in a parallel universe like the one with the Rose)
KisJulVl
KisJulVl
10 Dec 2023, 02:17 #
Amy and Rory didn't get it.
Nog
Nog
10 Dec 2023, 02:20 #
@KisJulVl: they didn't have Tennant, I think it's about that
KisJulVl
KisJulVl
10 Dec 2023, 03:39 #
Oh, well, then yes
Donna is the luckiest one, she has a Doctor with a Tardis, so he won't have any problems with living space.
KonstantinRomeow
KonstantinRomeow
PRO
10 Dec 2023, 04:08 #
@KisJulVl: Rosa and Handy (the Metacrisis Doctor) could have had their own TARDIS, too, if the already filmed scene hadn't been cut at the last moment. As we know, TARDIS are not harvested, they "grow", and in the last scene in the Bay of the Evil Wolf, the Tenth Doctor threw a TARDIS sprout into the hands of Metacrisis so that he and Rose could grow their own.
Anica22
Anica22
10 Dec 2023, 17:13 #
Yes, yes, they should have raised her by the age of 57 😀 Who knows, maybe it did happen behind the scenes, and Rose and Shadow2 have a TARDIS growing all over))
valeyard
valeyard
10 Dec 2023, 21:09 #
@Nog: judging by the comment, RTD 11 broke off from the TARDIS and could easily have settled with them
Jane_Scholar
Jane_Scholar
PRO
10 Dec 2023, 00:40 #
This is the first time I've seen an actor turn 15th, so there were no expectations, and I'm glad the new Doc is so positive) but to be honest, it's like it's not my format anymore, somehow I've gotten used to angst and consider it a full-fledged part of the character. in general, the new Docta is for young people :-)
I liked RTD, who correctly dressed the young actor in sneakers and a shirt, thereby drawing attention not only to the character of the character ;-)

I am very glad that Donna has her own Doctor, I support the comments above from the series "YOU GIVE EVERYONE A DOCTOR!") although, at the moment, it feels like the "real" one stayed on Earth for some reason, and the "copied one" flew to save the universe, I hope this feeling will go away with the new series.

I started watching Docta when I was 12, and now my age is playing it : With
Lorain
Lorain
10 Dec 2023, 00:44 #
Донна прекрасна)🤣 "My name's Donna. And I warn you now: if this is a trick, I will kill you"
cherik-cherik
cherik-cherik
10 Dec 2023, 00:48 #
MY DREAM HAS FINALLY COME TRUE - THE DOCTOR WILL REST FOR AT LEAST ONE DAMN DAY.

To be honest, I don't know how to feel about this bi-generation yet. it seems that the only thing that raises questions for me is that, apparently, all the injuries remained with the old version of the doctor, and the fresh doctor left to have fun and fill new bumps. xs, probably the guilt for the fluxes and the existential crisis after meeting my mother were in the pockets of my pants.

I wonder, since they're hinting at the return of the master, what will he say about it? Will he try to get the doctor back together? or is he already fucked up with life after the timeless child and will no longer bother the doctor with questions about regeneration?

In fact, I would like to see doctors cross paths with each other again in the future, even if they both have new faces. The doctor's entire new school essentially defined his loneliness as a time lord, and now he has a sibling. Even with his uniqueness as child's timeless, now he finally has someone close and dear who WON't try to kill him.
Lorain
Lorain
10 Dec 2023, 01:13 #
Hmm, and really, it would be fun to look at the adventures of the new Doctor from the perspective that all the injuries really remained with the old version.
It's like starting from scratch, you have to love yourself, we live once, we go for everything!) It suits the image of a joke.
Demonakor
Demonakor
10 Dec 2023, 15:33 #
@cherik-cherik: The Doctor was already "relaxing" with the Ponds, during the slowest invasion (when a bunch of cubes appeared on Earth), and he didn't like it at all.
Человек-Фонарик
Человек-Фонарик
10 Dec 2023, 16:40 #
@Demonakor: that Doctor, compared to the current kid, is only a thousand years old. Of course, he had a lot more energy.
cherik-cherik
cherik-cherik
10 Dec 2023, 19:02 #
@Demonakor: what kind of rest is there, as always he tried to run away from problems and the past, and did not sit and relax. We can say that he spent 900 years on Trenzalore chilling and living day after day, but on the other hand, it was so long ago, since then he has destroyed the universe ten more times and killed satellites.
valeyard
valeyard
10 Dec 2023, 21:14 #
@cherik-cherik: I think he'll say that you were seriously hugging each other instead of killing each other?
Rudd
Rudd
10 Dec 2023, 00:49 #
bi-regeneration is of course... something. due to the fact that Dr. Tennant was able to survive, and the TARDIS was left to him, there is a feeling that the Joke is now just a spinoff. Ugh damn, well, it was necessary to devalue it so much.
ksenit01
ksenit01
10 Dec 2023, 01:47 #
@Rudd: I wonder why you perceive Tennant as the main one? On the contrary, I had a feeling - Tennant is now a spinoff
New2018
New2018
PRO
10 Dec 2023, 15:11 #
@ksenit01: Well, it really feels like the real doctor stayed on Earth, and the sequel will be about a copy. I've been watching the series since 2005, that is, "my" doctor, this is Tennant. And now it feels like 60 years of Doctor Who are over. It was as if a dynasty had been interrupted
New2018
New2018
PRO
10 Dec 2023, 15:13 #
@New2018: at the same time, I liked Jokey, and I will continue to watch. By the end of the first season, I'll forget that he's a copy for me. But so far there is, that is.
PlanePassenger
PlanePassenger
01 Feb 2024, 05:20 #
@New2018: if since 2005, then why not Eccleston?)
New2018
New2018
PRO
03 Feb 2024, 08:26 #
@PlanePassenger: He's good too, but Tennant is more into the heart. Eccleston's harmfulness as an actor also influenced his perception))
valeyard
valeyard
10 Dec 2023, 21:16 #
@Rudd: Tennant will probably only be in the books
KonstantinRomeow
KonstantinRomeow
PRO
11 Dec 2023, 01:21 #
@valeyard: I think you meant "in the expanded universe" - in addition to books, there are comics, Big Finish audio plays, and if you're lucky, computer games.
valeyard
valeyard
11 Dec 2023, 07:56 #
@KonstantinRomeow: I hope the books don't translate the rest, or are there resources?
Takumikun
Takumikun
11 Dec 2023, 08:09 #
@valeyard: they translate, even audio songs translate, but not as much as comics.
valeyard
valeyard
11 Dec 2023, 08:39 #
@Takumikun: I don't think I can pass Donna in comics, but she's good in books
valeyard
valeyard
11 Dec 2023, 08:43 #
@Takumikun: Are there any links to translations of audio plays? Or at least a list of what has been translated? Otherwise, they don't upload it to the rutracker, and you can skip something in Google from the slag. In general, what resources are popular nowadays?
KonstantinRomeow
KonstantinRomeow
PRO
11 Dec 2023, 11:01 #
@valeyard: comics are definitely translated, I once read almost the entire line with the Tenth and Eleventh from IDW publishing house in Russian, and I also came across a couple from Titan Comics.

In the TeamTARDIS Vkontakte group, sometimes comics in Russian are posted: https://vk.com/wall-29166271_726865 (by the way, there is a list of books translated into Russian there https://vk.com/page-29166271_50177614 )

But I have not seen audio plays in translation, perhaps because translating audio plays seems to negate the whole purpose and original idea of audio plays - to invite talented beloved actors to play their roles again. No offense to any of the voice actors, I love them and respect their work, but it's one thing to re-sound Tennant when I see Tennant on the screen and it's quite another thing to re-sound Tennant when he only has a voice.
Well, the plot of the audio plays, if desired, can be read somewhere on the TARDIS Wiki
PlanePassenger
PlanePassenger
03 Feb 2024, 10:57 #
@KonstantinRomeow: It's an amazing time now, I think it will be possible to listen to audio plays with Tennant in Russian in Tennant's voice soon
mamkerink
mamkerink
10 Dec 2023, 00:51 #
Shut up Gatwa is my doctor. I'm ready to go after him right now.
Allons_y
Allons_y
10 Dec 2023, 00:52 #
Who else stuck to the Spice Girls musical number? Honestly, I can't stop reviewing it. Neil Patrick Harris is so damn good, and the song is so clingy.
KonstantinRomeow
KonstantinRomeow
PRO
10 Dec 2023, 04:00 #
@Allons_y: In terms of sticky songs that fit the moment, "Doctor Who" has always been fine.

Not so long ago, the Master danced to Rasputin, in "Mummy on the Orient Express" the singer Foxes created an atmosphere with her cover of "Don't Stop Me Now" by Queen, once upon a time another Master lit up to "I Can't Decide" by Scissor Sisters and "Voodoo Child" by Rogue Traders, before that there was a gorgeous Talula and her "Put the Devil in Me", and at the very beginning of the revived series, the henchmen of the living trampoline killed visitors to the station hanging over the burning Ground under "Toxic" by Britney Spears
Allons_y
Allons_y
10 Dec 2023, 12:29 #
@KonstantinRomeow: Oh, I caught a wild kringe from Rasputin. I wanted to squander it as soon as possible.
The other musical inserts are cool, I don't argue. But spice up your life is now at the top of the top.
KonstantinRomeow
KonstantinRomeow
PRO
10 Dec 2023, 17:15 #
@Allons_y: well, it's certainly a matter of taste, because Sasha Dhawan's dance to "Rasputin" with Distant and Cyberman looking at each other in misunderstanding is for me the brightest scene of the entire Whittaker era (despite the fact that, unlike many, I love this era)

But "Spice Up Your Life" is now really at the top of the top. Of course, she has a slight unfair advantage in that she plays completely in the episode (2 verses + 2 choruses), while all the other songs listed by me were cut to 1 chorus or to 1 verse + 1 chorus.
But Neil Patrick Harris is such a talented and charismatic devil that he would probably bring the cropped version to the top of the top. He has a couple of solo musical numbers in "33 misfortunes", but even when the song is performed by an ensemble of actors, Harris definitely steals all the attention and hearts of the audience.
Allons_y
Allons_y
10 Dec 2023, 18:53 #
@KonstantinRomeow: Tasteful, yes. For some reason, I don't like the Master himself very much. For the life of me, I have the most frequently missed episodes with the Master in New school. Simm and Michelle are still going back and forth, they will come down, but Dhawan is absolutely passing by. Honestly, I don't understand why many people are delighted with him.
And it's very strange. I actually usually like characters like that. Unfortunately, something clearly went wrong here.
PlanePassenger
PlanePassenger
01 Feb 2024, 05:31 #
@KonstantinRomeow: you probably like drama the most, there are no complaints here, but it is the musicality of the movements, the emphasis on rhythmic drawings, staging, editing, everything there is in some kind of dissonance, which does not allow you to turn it into a good clip, just the musical scene of the series.
PlanePassenger
PlanePassenger
01 Feb 2024, 05:25 #
@Allons_y: it's a huge omission that Harris was only allowed to dance to lipsink, I'm sure if he had sung it himself, it would have been much more epic. I love him in Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog and A Series of Unfortunate Events. And I agree with you about Dhawan, we didn't make it there, although there was potential.
Rompotte
Rompotte
PRO
10 Dec 2023, 00:55 #
I have no problem with bi-generation if the 14th no longer has the ability to regenerate. In this case, it is almost a normal regeneration. In addition, we were told that the future life of the 14th influenced at least the emotional state of the 15th. Maybe the memories will be passed on, who knows. But these are all theories, but according to the facts - Jokingly gorgeous, I want more, I'm waiting for Christmas
Moka777
Moka777
10 Dec 2023, 00:58 #
I see everyone's reaction to bi regeneration is unclear, but I really liked it. I just yelled into the pillow when it happened. A second before I thought it would be funny if his regeneration did not go according to plan again, and RTD heard me xD Well, good nerves to him, because life with Donna's family promises to be fun.
valeyard
valeyard
10 Dec 2023, 21:20 #
@Moka777: we are waiting for the sitcom Doctor Donna, at least with a book
pidge
pidge
10 Dec 2023, 01:20 #
for a very long time, they pumped up what kind of toy is dangerous, then they merged it somehow foolishly, but besides that, the series is super! Joking cutie and just the fact that everyone is doing well is very pleasing
ksenit01
ksenit01
10 Dec 2023, 01:43 #
I practically did not read the comments above so that they would not affect my comment, but I am positive after the series :)

I don't know about anyone, but somehow everything worked out in my head, plus such endings from RTD don't seem surprising to me, :) In terms of psychology, especially after Flux, all this could not go without consequences, our time lord really needs rest, kmk, that's why they left Tennant's regeneration :) By the way, all the magic can be attributed to the toymaker and it's okay!

The last scene with Tennant was very touching!

Personally, I don't think Tennant will return, there have been similar finals before, after which the Persians did not return, but who knows, who knows)

Joking well, very charismatic, immediately pleased! I'm really looking forward to his episodes!

Thanks to RTD for the crazy rush, we are waiting for the Christmas rush and the new season!
EmilD
EmilD
10 Dec 2023, 01:48 #
I also want Jokey to hug me and tell me that he's next to me and everything will be fine!
And about the series, it's funny, of course, to know some spoilers before the release of the series. For example, the scene with the hammer was leaked in general in the summer of 2022, but then it sounded strange, like, a Doctor without Pants with a hammer, what?
About bi-regeneration was also leaked this summer and then it sounded very fast and in the series it was shown strangely, or rather explained. When I read the late leaks, I realized that the 15th of the future 14th Doctor just appeared ahead of time.
That is, logically, 14 will have to rest with Donna and her family, work out his injuries and only then regenerate on the 15th and end up during the battle with the Toymaker. But although there are already rumors that Tennant may appear in the season with Jokey, so we are waiting.

Well, the series is glorious, yes, NPH stole absolutely all the scenes, the scene under Old Spice is absolute greatness, Kate and Mel are very cool in the series, I'm glad they're still coming back.

It's a good joke, but until the Doctor gets him hooked, we'll see what happens next.
EmilD
EmilD
10 Dec 2023, 01:49 #
@EmilD: well, yes, the scene with a hint of the resurrection of the Master, that's a huge thank you for that, and in general, mentioning old events and satellites just pleases the heart, it would be more often like that!
FairyDream
FairyDream
10 Dec 2023, 14:26 #
@EmilD: damn, I see you so often in the comments to the series I watch that I can't help but ask - are you the Emil D, who is from Teamtardis Emil D? 😄
Takumikun
Takumikun
10 Dec 2023, 15:09 #
@FairyDream: I think it's obvious. Halova Ttshniki.
Tuarisa
Tuarisa
10 Dec 2023, 02:01 #
I looked at it in one breath!
Darkes
Darkes
10 Dec 2023, 02:47 #
Just recently, I came across a post where they counted how long each of the Doctors lived, and now the 10th, despite the long screen time, lived only nothing, about 5 years, of course he did not want to leave! When 11, 12, and 13 lived incredibly long within the framework of the plot. Honestly, I'm very glad that on 10/14 I got the opportunity to just stop and relax like a normal person. Before the episode, it hurt to think that he would have to leave again just after seeing Donna for a couple of days. Therefore, such a move is right in the heart.

My beloved Donna, and their duet with the Doctor, and they stayed together as best friends and family, ahhh, this is the fan service we deserve! I am glad that there is a potential opportunity to see them again in the future. It would be very sad to part with them forever, and for now we can breathe a sigh of relief that Donna did not get the tragic ending of 2.0.

Therapy for the Doctor? It's been asking for a lot for many seasons in a row. Screenwriters like to twist plots, break characters and play on emotions, and of course you can easily regenerate and pretend that none of this happened, that the Doctor FORGOT, but damn. But damn... the injury has been accumulating there for a long time, and the Doctor is still not ironclad.

And how we drove through the satellites that died, but not quite, and therefore everything is supposedly OK... Oh) That's why I love RTD for such a careful attitude towards character development. He sometimes gets carried away with plots, yes, but God, I wanted to believe that this warmth of his past seasons would return, and RTD did not disappoint.

Darkes
Darkes
10 Dec 2023, 02:47 #
Now you can safely let go of the past and follow the new Doctor, who is already mentally more stable! I have no doubt that he will also have different ups and downs, but it's even interesting how he will react and interact with people without this heavy emotional baggage. So in general, everything went well for me! I don't know if there would have been the same sense of ease in moving on to a new Doctor if Tennant had been "gone" again and everyone, and the new Doctor was so hop-hop, adventurous, as if nothing had happened. Maybe bi-generation is not a standard move, and it's a bit fanservice, but I liked it and it seems very logical. Yes, this has never happened before, so what? If it was possible for Chibnell to turn the entire canon upside down, then why not two doctors at the same time.
WalrusU
WalrusU
12 Dec 2023, 17:10 #
Do you have any more posts about calculating the life expectancy of doctors? I wonder by what criteria it was considered)
Darkes
Darkes
12 Dec 2023, 23:39 #
@WalrusU: I can't find that one anymore, it was more like just a discussion. but there was another one, even more visual, and there are clarifications in the comments too.

reddit . com /r/ doctorwho/comments/18bwnu0/i_made_a_rough_estimate_of_the_age_of_each_of_the

(I don't know if it's okay to leave links here, so with spaces)
KonstantinRomeow
KonstantinRomeow
PRO
13 Dec 2023, 08:18 #
@Darkes: yes, it seems that links can be easily left on MyShows even without spaces, I have left links to Vkontakte, Picaboo, YouTube many times, and it seems to be on Reddit too.

These links are of course non-clickable (unless you install a type extension https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/clickable-links/mgamelhnfokapndfdodnmfiningckjia ), but you can always select with the mouse and copy/go.
Alina_Kika
Alina_Kika
10 Dec 2023, 04:00 #
Starting with regeneration, I just sat in shock, then I laughed at the game that was happening on the screen, then the only thing I could say was WHAT? what? what?

It's not entirely clear, the Doctor is still alone, and then he will somehow combine with 15m or another regeneration when he works out his problems. Or, after all, we now have two Doctors, each of whom will go his own way, and the 15th has no problems, because he stupidly left this part of himself with the 14th.
In general, I hope in the future they will somehow combine it back and the Doctor after therapy will still become one, and not remain with a split personality. Just in time for the next anniversary, it will be possible to make such a scene, at the same time invite Tennant back to the series, and before that he will probably appear a couple of times just in the series, because it's not for nothing that they left on the 14th:) I don't want them to forget about it, leaving it unexplained.

In general, despite all the trash happening on the screen, I liked the series. I don't know if I'm biased, if that's really the case, but even the broken "canon" again (Is there one at all?) RTD looks somehow more organic and holistic, and is not annoying, as it was with Chibnell. Perhaps this is due to the fact that the very atmosphere of the series is similar to the first seasons of new school, for which I fell in love with the series, only now with big budgets. Perhaps because none of the characters look like cardboard. And the plot itself is more interesting and fascinating, it looks in one go.

The toymaker is amazing, NPH played great. And the dance scene in the Unit fell in love immediately.

I liked the 15th doctor right away, just like I immediately went to the 10th and 12th, and then they became my favorite regenerations, so I hope it will be the same here. In his behavior and movements, it is felt that he is still the same Doctor, although he has changed.

For the first time in a long time, I feel like I'm looking forward to both the Christmas episode and the new season, which hasn't happened for a very long time, probably since the middle of the first season of the 13th.

Alina_Kika
Alina_Kika
10 Dec 2023, 20:03 #
I watched it again with Russian subtitles, and realized that the Doctor was still alone, since the 15th said he was fine because the 14th had dealt with the problems. So now the only question left is how it will become one, but I think the answer will be given someday.

I also noticed a reserve for the future, the Toymaker said that he played with everyone, but he hid from one because he was afraid to play with him. This line was inserted for a reason. I wonder who the Toymaker was afraid of, and how this something would collide with the Doctor.
Well, which hordes of Toymakers should be feared, which he mentioned before his disappearance, is also not clear yet.

And of course, I'm waiting for the new appearance of the Master. Actually, I would like to see the Master, not only more adequate (it probably won't be the Master anymore), but rather more friendly to the Doc, like Missy at the end.
Alina_Kika
Alina_Kika
10 Dec 2023, 20:25 #
And by the way, maybe the one the Toymaker was afraid to play with is someone with two hearts, whom Mip mentioned. Maybe there will be some more hints in the Christmas episode.
KonstantinRomeow
KonstantinRomeow
PRO
11 Dec 2023, 01:28 #
Usually, when it comes to mysterious characters with two hearts, fan theories about the return of the Rani, Rassilon, the Monk (Meddling Monk) or Omega begin, but I'm not sure that the Toyboy would be horrified by (and the Mip would obey) an ordinary Timelord. In the classics, it seems like Su-Tech would be one of the more dangerous opponents, but in my heart I don't know if he has two hearts or one...
On the other hand, maybe this time, instead of bringing back the iconic villain from the classics, Russell T Davies came up with someone new, and now he will tease him throughout the season in small hints and mentions of how it was with "Bad Wolf", "Vote Harold Saxon", "Torchwood" and the disappeared planets and bees.
valeyard
valeyard
10 Dec 2023, 21:29 #
@Alina_Kika: it would be cool, after an emotionally difficult episode with Jokey, if the sitcom Doctor Donna scenes were inserted in the credits to balance the emotional balance of the audience)
vk537973
vk537973
10 Dec 2023, 04:01 #
It's been a long time since I've felt the same emotions from watching the doctor that I have in the last 2 episodes. Probably, after Capaldi and Clara, everything went in the same place. But it was really great, it was like I went back 10 years ago when I first watched the series as a schoolboy, and it's just great emotions. Then I was also waiting for the release of the Christmas episode on my birthday as soon as possible, so that I could watch it with great pleasure the next day. I have so many positive, but very drastic changes in my life now — returning to those times brings some kind of feeling of lightness, so I am wildly grateful for the though not perfect, but wonderful return of one of my favorite TV series. Yes, and with an actor from my favorite TV series
valeyard
valeyard
10 Dec 2023, 21:32 #
@vk537973: I thought so too until I watched the series
AnastasiaOswin
AnastasiaOswin
PRO
07 Jan 2024, 00:34 #
God. It was only after this comment that I realized how long I had been with the Doctor. Since back in 2006, when the broadcast was on CTC. Sarah Jane on the Carousel. Then a lot of revisions, over and over again. It's incredible, I'm literally growing up with the series. I already have a husband, two children, and I'm still as in love with the Doctor as a schoolgirl. I think that clearly characterizes the series as more than gorgeous.
kiprian_zhurov
kiprian_zhurov
10 Dec 2023, 05:02 #
Neil Patrick is gorgeous, especially the musical number
But the fact that another doctor, and even with a TARDIS, now just sits and does not interfere with threats to earth (and they will certainly be) is a strange decision for me
When they started talking about the house and all that, I decided that he would go to galifrey, or look for answers to a more distant past for himself, and then he just settled with Donna. It's cute, of course, but it's kind of shallow or something
Jokingly, there's really nothing to say yet, but I didn't cause any negativity, and that's the main thing.
Let's see what happens next
Человек-Фонарик
Человек-Фонарик
10 Dec 2023, 15:25 #
@kiprian_zhurov: Gallifrey is gone, there's nowhere to go back to. And why would he look for answers to the past? It was the mysteries of the past that brought him to his current state. He's just tired. Emotionally burned out. It's so human. Sometimes it's okay to just relax and think about yourself for the first time in a long time.
Demonakor
Demonakor
10 Dec 2023, 16:13 #
@Человек-Фонарик: Gallifrey was gone once. If you need to return it again, it will be returned.
arcvers
arcvers
PRO
10 Dec 2023, 08:00 #
Oh my God, I haven't seen Neil for a long time)) His dancing took me back to the time of the KVM.
This eternal theme of DC about the creation and destruction that humanity carries always resonates.
Thanks for the last two episodes, I'm sitting and crying! I'm going to miss them again. 😭
"If you take away all the toys, who am I?" 🥺
In fact, it is very logical that the face of the 10th returned and that in the end he stayed again, because of all the doctors, he is the only one who never wanted to leave! There are, of course, questions about how all this will work with two doctors and two tardis in the same universe.
valeyard
valeyard
10 Dec 2023, 21:34 #
@arcvers: Clara has 2 TARDIS, it's 3
arcvers
arcvers
PRO
11 Dec 2023, 18:45 #
@valeyard: and damn exactly, thank you for the reminder))
Deusyatina
Deusyatina
10 Dec 2023, 08:30 #
All these three episodes, it's like the phrase: I accept the challenge. That is, we understand it, laughed, had fun, but if there was a Challenge accepted, it would have been much better. And even here, if they hadn't added a cartoon montage to a magnificent musical number, showing that the Doctor's screwdriver couldn't open the doors of the NPH, there was no bi-regeneration - it would have been great
Севереса
Севереса
10 Dec 2023, 09:02 #
God, Neil Patrick is so good as a Toyboy, just damn charisma.
Make jokes too, fire, great casting!
I am so glad that Donna is alive and the good end is, everyone is alive, 14 has received his therapy.
Севереса
Севереса
10 Dec 2023, 09:17 #
@Severesa: I forgot to write: music, musical themes are just a fire
valeyard
valeyard
10 Dec 2023, 21:36 #
@Severesa: it would be cool if the master of the tooth became with his face)
ndontsov
ndontsov
10 Dec 2023, 09:40 #
Some mixed impressions
I'm not sure I like the biregeneration move.
But I liked Neil Patrick Harris!
and Joke too :)

In general, this episode was just such a special episode, when there were several doctors, and several satellites, and the Avengers tower and a star in the role of the antagonist, and regeneration, and several tardis!

But as I like the previous episode a lot more so far, it seems that I personally missed the usual episode with the tenth /fourteenth and Donna much more. It's good that in the end there is such a regular episode, and a special edition like today!
We are waiting for Christmas now :)
fb1073577
fb1073577
10 Dec 2023, 10:04 #
The impression of this series is just... WHAT? What's going on at all??? I really liked Bi-regeneration. There was a feeling that David was finally allowed to retire, even though I would be the first to jump for joy if there were episodes with him again. Harris's dance was a frenzy, I laughed and danced. The joke about different colors just went in. I think Jokey doesn't need pants in the next episode and the next season. Never at all. I caught the same vibe as I was in the Super - everyone got the end they deserved. The old man Tennant received a pension on Earth (it would be cool if there were later episodes in the spirit of "The Doctor goes for interviews", "The Doctor in search of housing", "The Doctor starts a family and he is from such a father." For some reason, I see him as a cashier in a supermarket, who flies to other eras in the TARDIS on weekends, and flies exclusively to other planets on vacation. And, of course, it would be very interesting to look at Jokey and David as a Doctor and his companion, the question of who will be the companion, of course, remains open, but the team would be epic, I think.
valeyard
valeyard
10 Dec 2023, 21:40 #
@fb1073577: in the next episode, everyone is like this: why is the guy in underpants commanding and telling us what to do? And he's like, because I'm a Doctor and I have nothing to hide. And what are your pants hiding? I once had pants with big pockets. And what I didn't keep there. So they would have kept silent and obeyed until the world came to an end...
Allons_y
Allons_y
10 Dec 2023, 12:01 #
I finally watched the episode with subtitles.

The toy maker is gorgeous. I love these tricksters.
In general, I did not watch the series with him in old school (and there are some difficulties with it, there is no normal option, only static pictures with sound). But I liked the character, as they say, in absentia, according to the description and comments of those who watched. I remember when rumors were just beginning to spread about who Harris would play, I was hoping with all my heart for a Toyboy. And yes, that's how it turned out. Hurray!
But, in my opinion, they didn't put the squeeze on it a little bit. I would like to throw the whole unit out of the series (and come up with another cameo for Mel). Make more games. Surrealism. Maybe a pinch of horror. That's just a pinch. And more humor. So that everything is bright and fun.
And so it seems cool, but it feels like the whole huge potential of the character just didn't put the squeeze on.
KonstantinRomeow
KonstantinRomeow
PRO
10 Dec 2023, 16:57 #
@Allons_y: "yes, and there are some difficulties with it, there seems to be no normal option, only static pictures with sound"

As with many other series of the First and Second Doctors. But as with some of them, a full-fledged animation will be made for "Celestial Toymaker", the trailer was recently posted. The visual style of the human characters is a bit strange, it seems to me that for some reason the authors were inspired by the games from TellTale Games and the pilot of the animated series "The Amazing Digital Circus"

https://youtu.be/Ncdtvn8H_Bk?si=b6Ehr5n5WCDv6r-t

In any case, the more lost episodes are restored in the form of animation, the better in my opinion. I would like to see the entire Hartnell and Troughton era re-released in animation, preferably with color (ideally with a 16:9 wide screen, and rewiring all short twenty-minute episodes into large forty-minute and one-and-a-half-hour ones). Then maybe I would finally decide to watch the classics...
Allons_y
Allons_y
10 Dec 2023, 18:59 #
@KonstantinRomeow: It's just great! Thanks for the tip, I'll definitely watch the animation when it comes out.
valeyard
valeyard
10 Dec 2023, 21:44 #
@KonstantinRomeow: oh, you shouldn't dare, as Sheldon said, there is no better GPU than your imagination
valeyard
valeyard
10 Dec 2023, 21:42 #
@Allons_y: you didn't watch "goosebumps" so you probably didn't catch a bit of humor
Adrasteya
Adrasteya
10 Dec 2023, 12:22 #
I wonder if RTD took the passport from Tennant and doesn't want to give it back, or if the Tennants are holding RTD's loved ones hostage. I can't explain such buns in any other way.
id264460076
id264460076
10 Dec 2023, 12:43 #
Oh... the episode flew by in one breath.
I liked the toy maker back in the Classics, and it didn't disappoint here. His games were creepy. Especially the "live" doll and the talking dolls that attacked Donna.

About the unusual appearance of a new Dock. Well, I'm fine on the whole. And Joking, I liked the Doctor on first impression. In terms of energy, it somehow reminded me of the 11th mixed with the 6th. It will be interesting to see his seasons.
Tennant remained the eternal Doctor!☺️☺️☺️ I am very happy for him and for his personal happy ending.
What an intrigue. Who picked up the Toymaker's tooth. From the sound of it, it seemed to me that Kate.
Takumikun
Takumikun
10 Dec 2023, 12:50 #
An explanation about the Bigeneration from the comments on the series from RTD itself for those who do not watch them.
In short, RTD explained the new realities of DC and he says that this bigeneration occurred immediately throughout the timeline of the Doetor and with each regeneration a fragmented timeline was formed where the regenerated Doctor survived and continued to travel and that is why the Doctor sometimes met older past Doctors, everything is simple - these are fragmented versions of the same Doctors who survived in their timeline. For example, in this way you can explain the series "Two Doctors" where the Second along with Jamie, both aged and at the same time mention Wargame, although they can't because in this series Jamie's memory was erased, and the Doctors were forcibly regenerated into a Third, and now this is explained by the fact that the Sixth crossed paths with the fragmented Second, who in his timeline saved his companions and went on to travel and then crossed paths with the main Sixth.
Here I tried to depict the canons of the new timeline. It turns out that we have a main timeline where there is an actual Doctor + all the past ones before their regenerations and the Doctors' answers after regeneration. That is, each Doctor now has a version from the main timeline and a fragmented version. What is shown at the end of the series is the timeline of the Fourteenth survivor, and Jokey flew on in the main timeline.

Here are RTD's direct quotes to make it clear:

"a whole timeline bigenerated".


"I think all of the Doctors came back to life with their individual TARDISes, the gift of the Toymaker, and they're all out there travelling round in what I'm calling a Doctor verse."

"Sylvester McCoy woke up in a drawer, in a morgue, in San Francisco… and Jon Pertwee woke up on the floor of the laboratory"

And he also said that Tales of the TARDIS canon and Shard Seventh says the following: "Time streams are funny things. In some, I regenerate. In others, I don't. It's all a matter of perspective."
driveshaft
driveshaft
10 Dec 2023, 13:25 #
@Takumikun: I thought it was a way to explain the Curator's appearance.
alessya264
alessya264
10 Dec 2023, 12:59 #
The series is wonderful. Even when N.P. Harris was shown in the trailer, I realized that the series would be legendary and I was not mistaken, I adore him.

They've been clever with bi-regeneration, of course, and I hope that means we'll see Tennant and Tate on the show again. I love them very much.
And even though no one died or regenerated, I still feel kind of sad, I don't understand why.

The new Doctor is very funny, compared to 14 heaven and earth. In principle, I like the actor, let's see.
valeyard
valeyard
10 Dec 2023, 21:47 #
@alessya264: I think Disney will not pull them ganarars, and the books will definitely be super
alessya264
alessya264
11 Dec 2023, 13:22 #
@valeyard: They shouldn 't have called themselves Disney then
driveshaft
driveshaft
10 Dec 2023, 13:22 #
Barney dragged out the episode. He played much better than in the Matrix. The master in the form of a tooth is generally gorgeous, I wonder whose female hand stole it. In general, it's safe to call it a relaunch when there are so many references to the events of previous seasons in one episode, both from the second series and from the classics. But they still haven't explained who this Toy is. And why they don't call him Heavenly anymore. He's the only one in his kind, what kind of abilities are these? No answers. Anyway, the idea itself is absurd, to take the villain from an episode that has been preserved only as a slideshow with an audio track. And Neil could well play the Doctor, just like crazy, eccentric, resourceful. Maybe they'll give you regeneration.

The fifteenth is still normal, much better than the doctor. But who knows how it will be. Maybe they'll strangle you even more with a subpoena. The invalid, it turns out, can walk. They made a special ramp into the tardis for her, but she didn't even go inside and won't become a companion. As usual, a subpoena for the sake of a subpoena. The same applies to Ibrahim at the Unit.

In general, it's stupid to make a secret organization public, and to single out the headquarters of the quarry like that. It puts all employees in danger. And, I think, the episode with the shooting down of the South Korean satellite will not receive any development.

Regarding bigeneration. It's very funny, two episodes to drive out that everything around is non-binary and roll out binary. It would seem that there is fertile ground to launch several TV series at once, like Sidaba's. But no, they'll forget about the Fourteenth again and concentrate on the Fifteenth. Aeschylus is not a fact that she will ever appear.
valeyard
valeyard
10 Dec 2023, 21:48 #
@driveshaft: I hope the regeneration of the master from the tooth
Merlin_Who
Merlin_Who
11 Dec 2023, 00:12 #
@driveshaft: You don't have to watch classic series with a toyboy to know his story. It's enough to be in a fandom, read reviews/fanfiction/articles.
KonstantinRomeow
KonstantinRomeow
PRO
11 Dec 2023, 01:50 #
> And why isn't it called Heavenly now

I just watched a YouTube video about a Toymaker the other day, and as I understood it, two factors played here - first, the creator of the character originally intended that he would be called just Toymaker, and celestial was just an epithet put into the episode title, which the First Doctor called him, and in the script the word celestial was written with a small letter. But there was a misunderstanding, and the audience decided that his correct name was completely "Celestial Toymaker". Thus, getting rid of the prefix "celestial" was a return to the original idea of the author who invented this character
The second reason was that in the ~ 60 years since the episode was released, the word celestial has acquired a slight racist connotation when it is applied to Asians, and since the first Toyboy performed by Michael Gough (by the way, Alfred from the four Batman films of the 90s) wore traditional Asian clothes, then remove the association of the word celestial with this character should help smooth out a little negative context.

Disney is also possible/Marvel and their Celestials Didn't want competition, or Ed Sheeran filed for copyright

(the last paragraph is a joke if anything)
Leonius
Leonius
10 Dec 2023, 13:33 #
Well.
A series that already smacks of an anniversary! Finally!
Why there were the first two — I don't understand, apparently, to sprinkle salt on the edge of the universe)

Toymaker - fire!) The thing with the appearance of a chuckle is something...It is not very clear, it strongly smacks of a story about an Archangel, which was immediately remembered.
Neil is gorgeous! But I'm very used to him in the role of Barney))
What a pity he didn't tell the new Doctor to "Get dressed up!" when he appeared in his underpants :D .

The second red-haired companion is too old-school, I didn't look, I didn't appreciate it, but I put a plus sign.
The unit in Stark Tower with a super duper laser is awesome))

The way the Doctor once again (as when he confused Donna and the clone in the pre-series) messed up, just quickly running into the door and forgot to enter Donna (again)... RukaLizo, of course.
The fact that the Doctor as a whole fell for the Toyboy's trick and ran after him is also a dubious act.

Matser lost to the toymaker!!! How is it at all?)) How could the Master lose? And where it is, I want to see what kind of games were there)
Well, the ending with the tooth is mmmmmmm)

Bigreeneration - gygy! :D Came up with the same)) But it was warm to my heart that now we have another one (after Handy) Doctor Tennant, and even on Earth and in our reality, there is hope for another return (RTD, do not let me down!).

The new Docta. Well... So far, it's strange. He didn't even have any confusion, he just got out and was ready for everything. No shock for you. Apparently, bioregeneration works like that, yes. Hobbaaa...and that's it)

How the Toymaker could not catch the ball is strange. But apparently the two Docts are too cool.

The thing with the second TARDIS looks too cheesy and strained, but it's still good that the Tennant Doctor can now travel.
I wonder if he can regenerate now? Or is that all?)
Leonius
Leonius
10 Dec 2023, 13:33 #
@Leonius: It didn't fit:

The hugs of the two Doctors were a little too much. But okay, Lando, I don't see anything like that here. They're just very...relatives)
I hope the new Doctor will be the wrong one...)

"Rose" in the end, personally, caused me rather negative emotions. I hope that he will definitely not come back anymore.


I want a spin-off with Tennant :) But it will most likely eclipse the ratings of the main series and it will be bad.
valeyard
valeyard
10 Dec 2023, 21:51 #
@Leonius: not appreciated because the companion was a mannequin in the series, generally superfluous
valeyard
valeyard
10 Dec 2023, 21:53 #
@Leonius: I think the Master's plan was to lose in order to regenerate from the tooth with part of the toyboy's powers and become cooler than the Doctor
albulka_
albulka_
11 Dec 2023, 01:05 #
@Leonius: зато он сказал 'challenge accepted' как Барни 😅😅
Нестин
Нестин
10 Dec 2023, 13:45 #
RTD decided to let go of the problems of past Doctors in order to destroy the mentality of 15 from scratch.
E770
E770
PRO
10 Dec 2023, 14:28 #
the appearance of a Toyboy in the UNIT is epic (also a reference to "American Beauty")
(the UNIT is just like a SHIELD now.)
but it seemed to me that somehow there was not enough of such a cool villain. NPH is very good
, we can only hope that he will return in future episodes

It seems they are definitely trying to forget the era of Chibnell, the Toyboy showed only the companions of 11 and 12 Doctors))
well, for me personally, so much the better. I haven't watched the seasons with the 13th Doctor.

with this split, of course, I am confused. like, so far they've had the same memory and all that. Now they're separated and everyone's living their own lives?
and what will happen next with regeneration? Will Dr. Tennant live to a ripe old age and, like, refuse to regenerate? (I just assumed)
in short, there are plenty of questions

I looked at the teaser for the next episode...
it's really something new. and as they wrote above, it's more youthful, or something. It's like he left all the drama in Dr. Tennant. I hope not. I love the Doctor precisely because, despite all his optimism and heroism, he always remains a wise old man who has seen life.
A doctor in a skirt dancing in a club?
It's like I saw footage from "sex education"
okay. Let's wait and see
Нестин
Нестин
10 Dec 2023, 14:37 #
@E770: They literally mentioned the events of Chibnell in the last episode. And the Toymaker mentioned the Flux. And his companions were not mentioned, because they did not die, unlike the Moffat ones. You can hope to reset his era further, but not with RTD.
Aliks8
Aliks8
10 Dec 2023, 15:05 #
A gorgeous series. Now all three series are lined up in one single composition. The toy maker is gorgeous. With bi regeneration, it's an ingenious move. It allows you to abstract from past regenerations (seasons) while starting over. After all, on the 15th the doctor flew to the second tardis. So it is new, updated, you can say the first one. I'm glad he stayed and now he has a family.
I agree with the comments above that this may be an opportunity to explain what happened to the wound.
For example, a Curator and Another doctor.
The relaunch of the series turned out well. Now it will be even more interesting to watch the new doctor.
akifa
akifa
10 Dec 2023, 17:19 #
@Aliks8: Exactly. And may the RTD universe be
Togusa
Togusa
10 Dec 2023, 15:24 #
I hope they don't abandon Tennant and at least make an animated series under the slogan "Rick and Morty, but without toxic assholes."
УродливыйДалек
УродливыйДалек
10 Dec 2023, 15:31 #
Tennant's very appearance for the second time is already a fan service. So I have no complaints about bioregeneration. After all three hours on the screen, just killing him again would be too cruel.
котовский
котовский
10 Dec 2023, 16:48 #
I'm absolutely thrilled! The fifteenth is already love. Jokingly beautiful. I wonder what will happen next with the Fourteenth. Does it regenerate again later? Or if he dies, will he die completely? I hope they will tell you. The scene with Donna's family at the end is just heartfelt.

And of course the Master!!! Or a Mistress, judging by the red nails... Really looking forward.

PS: in the scene where the Toyman danced in the UNIT, did you also remember that very scene from the KVVM with the song about costumes?
miroslava_22
miroslava_22
10 Dec 2023, 16:48 #
Donna's offers to work at UNIT are very wonderful, I think it will be a legend... Wait, wait...Darno. Legendary! * chuckle*
And Donna's balls are really made of iron 😁
To see the dolls of Emmy Pond and Clara Oswald in the toymaker's show was very surprising and pleasant, there had been no mention of them for a long time.
I'm generally shocked by bigeneration, I want each companion to have a Tennant, Rosa and Donna already have their own personal Doctors
xenia_jn
xenia_jn
PRO
23 Dec 2023, 00:15 #
@mv_stepanova22: I already grunted when I saw the picture
miroslava_22
miroslava_22
10 Dec 2023, 16:53 #
Rory's Orange underpants move in, you now have a competitor.
A beautiful man, a beautiful man. Perhaps without underpants
albulka_
albulka_
11 Dec 2023, 01:08 #
@mv_stepanova22: I was confused, why did they end up with 2 shirts if the clothes were separated?)
Darkes
Darkes
11 Dec 2023, 02:13 #
@albinka_: because there were two of them, one regular and the other non-standard. even in the picture above you can see that they are different)
albulka_
albulka_
11 Dec 2023, 12:37 #
@Darkes: well ok) apparently Tennant didn't want to flaunt his bare armpits while playing ball :D
akifa
akifa
10 Dec 2023, 17:12 #
I've seen this before somewhere. when there are 2 doctors and one rose. and the new doctor is good. Tennant is always in my heart

and of course spice appeared in the performance of the toymaker top

I'm glad they mentioned almost everyone. But Martha Zyza wasn't on that list
. Who wants Torchwood back?
NebSehemvi
NebSehemvi
10 Dec 2023, 17:36 #
Not a bad series.

I liked almost everything except the pace - again, everything was too hasty and with a lot of jumps. The series would fit perfectly into the Flux - about the same pace. Well, I also have a claim that Kate is like furniture again, except for the scene where she demonstrates the effect of waves on herself.

And I put the series 4 out of 5.

And then I was confused and came up with the idea that 10-14 is a Doctor for millennials, and 15 is for zoomers. And that 14 has worn out is about millennials too, and the way for zoomers. And this is ageism. What the hell difference does it make? I am also surprised that RTD did not shit on the 12th incarnation and did not declare that it was the terminal stage and the Doctor's gut screamed about wear and tear.

And then I went to watch a documentary about the shooting of the series. I wish I hadn't done that. What kind of RTD is a dark person.

Wearing someone else's national costume is a cultural appropriation, because the Heavenly Toymaker was a racist in 1966
But we're in 2023 and that's why we added a racist aspect to him anyway @ apparently a joke about warmer climes for a guy who came to buy a doll AND a GERMAN ACCENT

I thought that the German accent was just a joke, a joke, because there are associations with inviting people - you need an outlandish accent, and in films / TV series about the 19th century, for example, this is how they show, all sorts of entertainers-enticers sometimes speak with an accent.

But now, because of his crappy comment, I perceive it differently - in his old head, the first thought for a racist is to choose a German accent, and to think that well, HE's in 2023 and the Germans have already suffered everything - no, whatever. I just don't have any censorious words and this is a fierce cringe. I wish RTD to travel around Europe more (fortunately, it is nearby) and look at any other country. Germany is the most selfish and liberal, and racism will be the first thing to fly here.

Spain: they shout something at you and stare at you all the time
Switzerland: migrants, go home
Netherlands: choose the right and want to make life harder for migrants
French: French is superior and in general you are dirt from under your fingernail

Trash. Grandfather, get more rest!
NebSehemvi
NebSehemvi
10 Dec 2023, 17:38 #
@NebSehemvi: "Wearing someone else's national costume is a cultural appropriation @ because the Heavenly Toymaker was a racist in 1966"

by the way, I will write about this separately - it also seems to me to be utter nonsense, because this is the personification of the chaos of the Universe and nothing more, if it took on such an appearance - it says something about the Doctor or the people of that time, rather than about a Toy
schizosarah
schizosarah
11 Dec 2023, 00:20 #
@NebSehemvi: I didn't watch the classics, and because of the accent and the remark about the warm edges, I thought that toymaker was some kind of nazi coded villain, but it turns out that rtd just has such an interesting interpretation... Well, you'll learn something new everyday
TennanthNoize
TennanthNoize
10 Dec 2023, 18:38 #
WHAT
ForeverVD
ForeverVD
10 Dec 2023, 19:28 #
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ForeverVD
ForeverVD
10 Dec 2023, 19:30 #
It was very nice)
ForeverVD
ForeverVD
10 Dec 2023, 19:31 #
@ForeverVD:
Mariа
Mariа
12 Dec 2023, 14:12 #
@ForeverVD: Me, me and Irene again
Нестин
Нестин
10 Dec 2023, 23:47 #
@ForeverVD:
miroslava_22
miroslava_22
11 Dec 2023, 00:05 #
@Nestin: Is this from the set? So cute 😍
Takumikun
Takumikun
11 Dec 2023, 09:13 #
@ForeverVD: The hugging moment from Jokey really warmed me up...We all need such a Doctor right now.
ph_enomenon
ph_enomenon
10 Dec 2023, 20:19 #
an alternative dramatic (normal) plot of the shots: in the second series, the Doctor takes the wrong Donna (we don't know about it), in the third, the Toyboy uses her against the Doctor and she kills him (we fuck), the usual regeneration takes place jokingly (there are no questions for him, handsome)
albulka_
albulka_
11 Dec 2023, 01:11 #
@ph_enomenon: in this story, the real Donna dies from an explosion due to the Doctor's fault - it's kind of harsh.
Servius
Servius
11 Dec 2023, 14:37 #
@albinka_: but we would have felt something!
Servius
Servius
11 Dec 2023, 14:37 #
@albinka_: Developing, here's another, softer option - we understand that we don't know who the Doctor actually took (suspense begins) and he himself begins to doubt it (and maybe Donna, if we allowed in the plot that when merging by 99.9% they cease to realize themselves as beings from non-existence and they think they are real), which is what the Toy Maker uses in the future. But in the end, the Doctor will still sacrifice himself to save Donna, regardless of whether she is real or not (we wash the floor with tears). This would add the right amount of drama, twists and quite a significant price for the mistake of the Doctor, who cannot always win. And then Tennant turns into a Joke (still no questions, handsome)
albulka_
albulka_
11 Dec 2023, 16:08 #
@Servius: The drama of Rick and Morty begins here, with a Clone and the Real Beth)
Besides, if a creature from non-existence turns into Donna so much that it ceases to be aware of itself, then what is the danger of such a creature? it will not be able to "multiply", because it does not understand that it, a creature from non-existence, needs to capture other minds, so all the horror from the previous series is lost, then why kill them - you just need to wait until they are so integrated into their prototypes and forget that they are "villains")

You see, you can find fault with any plot move. I'm not defending now how they wrapped up here with this bioregeneration, but any move that seems "better" can also stumble upon its counterarguments)
miroslava_22
miroslava_22
10 Dec 2023, 20:45 #
Takumikun
Takumikun
10 Dec 2023, 23:31 #
@mv_stepanova22: in fact, we should have 5 Tennants now: Basic 10, Biregenerated 10, Metacrisis, Basic 14 and here is the last Biregenerated 10.
You can shoot a new version of the Five Doctors purely with Tennant
miroslava_22
miroslava_22
10 Dec 2023, 23:41 #
@Takumikun: I like living in a universe where there are 5 Tennant Doctors
ilpassetto
ilpassetto
PRO
11 Jan 2024, 15:54 #
@Takumikun: can you explain to me about the "5 Tennants"? I've been watching the series for so long that I can't figure out how to count anyone. Now I see the 14th one left with Donna. I remember on the 10th, who didn't want to leave, but regenerated on the 11th. I remember the 10th, who was left in an alternate world with a Rose. And the 2nd one is who/when?🥺
KonstantinRomeow
KonstantinRomeow
PRO
11 Jan 2024, 17:51 #
@ilpassetto: well, these are the conclusions about the same statement by Russell T. Davis that "bigeneration occurred simultaneously with all Doctors," that is, each Doctor split at the moment of regeneration. This means that when a Dalek shot at the Tenth, he not only sent regeneration energy into the severed arm, from which a Metacrisis would later grow from Donna's touch, but also split into two Tennants. And then one of those two Tenths, when he absorbed the radiation saving Wilfred, not only changed his face to the Eleventh (Matt Smith), but also split up. Here's another one +2 Tennants

But in fact - do not take these words of Russell T. Davis to heart yet, this is a dubious statement about the fact that the entire timeline of the Doctor has been bigenerated - at the moment it is nonsense and absurd, said in order to fit into the updated canon the older versions of the former Doctors who appeared in the spin-off "Tales of the TARDIS" (https://old.myshows.me/view/86963 / - in fact, these are just selected episodes of the classic "Doctor Who" of 1963-1989 for which 5 minutes were filmed at the beginning and at the end of the episode with older Doctors and companions)
Until some of the aged "fragmented" Doctors appear in the new "Doctor Who" (unless, of course, the Curator is considered such), the words about the bigeneration of past Doctors are just a hype for the sake of a haight for the sake of a hype.
Jeronimoo
Jeronimoo
19 Dec 2023, 03:15 #
@mv_stepanova22: the fire is simple, I would watch such a series!!!!!David Tennant and his twins presents , by the way , he already played twins in one movie once ...
blacki3
blacki3
10 Dec 2023, 21:30 #
I don't know why Tennant's face is so lucky, but I'm glad that another version of his Doctor has been given peace. No matter how much he said that he could not imagine his life without time travel, but a family and the opportunity to just live life is clearly what he needed. No wonder there was a phrase at the end that they had never been so happy in their lives. "Never" means something in the case of the Doctor. The Scm move, of course, confused me a little. And not because we haven't had bi-generation yet. It just turned out somehow everything is so blurry, as if Doctor Who is no longer about drama, but about some kind of new school fun. I will not say that such a light approach after so many years of glass is a bad thing. But still, I've always loved the Doctor for such a purely British angst. I haven't smelled a Doctor from Joking yet either. The actor plays great, there are no complaints at all, but as if this is no longer a Doctor, but some completely different character. I saw more of Eric from Sex Education in him than the Doctor. I hope this feeling will pass in the future
pmg
pmg
10 Dec 2023, 23:06 #
God, this is just brilliant! Russell T. Davis -- God!
kathrine_adams
kathrine_adams
10 Dec 2023, 23:51 #
Oh, I really liked the ending for Dr. Tennant. I thought he was regenerating as usual, but here it is))) It's so touching to see him with his family, even if not his own. It's just a pity that Wilfred wasn't at the table... But at least in this universe he is alive.
In addition, they left a loophole to pull David back into the series if necessary.
The toyboy turned out to be very bright, Neil Patrick Harris never fails in this regard.
A good episode with a very sweet ending.
Jeronimoo
Jeronimoo
19 Dec 2023, 03:12 #
@kathrine_adams: we all really, really hope that David will be returned, maybe they will make some kind of spin-off, then why leave him the tardis, this is a sign...It would be cool to see about his adventures and how, for example, Donna works at Unit...😁😍As for Wilf, by the way, yes, he was missing, it's a pity the actor didn't have time to star in this last episode, bright memory 😭
Hunter_Number23
Hunter_Number23
11 Dec 2023, 01:08 #
What kind of bioregeneration is this? Isn't there a lot of retconing going on all the time? From a severed limb, you can grow a new body identical to the natural one (without the possibility of regeneration, except that), you can roll new cycles of regeneration, then it became possible to change the gender, then it turns out that the Doctor is not a timelord in the usual sense and has endless regenerations, and now we get the Doctor's bifurcation as if he were a unicellular amoeba of some kind. How long will this mockery of logic and the viewer's brain continue?

The only significant advantage of this division move is that we got a real restart, and the new Doctor can be considered not even the Fifteenth, but the First, everything started from scratch. And the old Doctor has finally retired, if I may say so. Jokey Gava, by the way, shines with charisma, so I think he will make an excellent Doctor. And yes, Neil Patrick Harris as a Toyboy was also very good, he would have made a good Doctor, if you think about it.

And yes, the golden tooth fell out. The Toymaker mentioned that there seemed to be a Master sitting there. So we are waiting for the return of the old villain. I wonder whose hand picked up that tooth. Is it really some kind of cult of worship of the Master again, as it was in the two-part series "The End of Time", which will bring him back to life?
Jeronimoo
Jeronimoo
19 Dec 2023, 03:06 #
@Hunter_Number23: I agree, there are so many questions and the main one is what will happen next, how will they regenerate?I also have a feeling that my brain has exploded- really only Doctor who can break our brain in the truest sense of the word 😂😂I also realized about Jokey that he will now be the first doctor, i.e. everything that was 60 years ended on Tennant, and this will be a new story, probably a cool idea, but let's see)))
MarkRaffer
MarkRaffer
20 Dec 2023, 14:51 #
@Hunter_Number23: despite the fact that a second earlier they showed a close-up and there was NO ONE there who could pick up this tooth. But yes, this is the only question that worries me after watching the episode.
As for admiring Gupta, oh, I'm sorry - Joke about Gatwa - I don't share the general hysteria about him. He's kind of incomprehensible so far and is not sure that he will pull out the role of a Doctor at all.
albulka_
albulka_
11 Dec 2023, 01:21 #
The new doctor is such a straight 'hop-hey-la-la-lay' 😅 it looks like a bright, cheerful, positive Doctor is waiting for us after rehab and therapy)
Well, let's see)

The toyboy was somehow simply leaked, I do not remember winning a sports competition in the Doctor yet, usually they ran with some tricks or difficult emotional decisions. But the box is still there, so there is a chance for his return)
The dancing scene was perky, reminiscent of 'everything everywhere and at once' and 'legion' in spirit.

It's funny how Tennant's mobile eyebrows were beaten at the end, I love the gif where he raises one eyebrow)
albulka_
albulka_
11 Dec 2023, 01:23 #
@albinka_: Damn, something happened to the gifs, and they don't attach) but I'll do it anyway :D
Tennant's eyebrows - a separate acting award for best performance!)
albulka_
albulka_
11 Dec 2023, 01:24 #
@albinka_:
miroslava_22
miroslava_22
11 Dec 2023, 15:28 #
@albinka_: so young
aoyagi_rena
aoyagi_rena
11 Dec 2023, 01:23 #
What a turnaround!!! Two Doctors.... Dwaaaaa. This is a strange decision. Although I'm glad that the Fourteenth will be able to catch his breath.
But it bothered me for a very long time - why did the Fifteenth appear in a shirt and underpants?))) But the actor fit into the role perfectly.
Catherine_1309
Catherine_1309
20 Dec 2023, 18:27 #
@aoyagi_rena: there was this separation, Tennant had a sweatshirt that was under his shirt and pants, and the new doctor took a shirt, tie and underpants 😊
kseksevna
kseksevna
11 Dec 2023, 01:27 #
1) we had no time to move away from the dance of Master Rasputin under Boney M, when there was a new sensation :D

2) Damn, I understand all these "every tired traveler needs his Valinor", but when all this conversation about "stay here, and this one will fly further to surf the universe" took place, Doc had such a sad face. It's as if he realizes that he is being drained of a consolation prize and offered to sit on the bench while the young and the early prove themselves.
MidnightSky
MidnightSky
11 Dec 2023, 01:35 #
Is the gold tooth left behind a hint of the master's return? Am I getting this right? Heh, he's everywhere and always
vorsharfov
vorsharfov
11 Dec 2023, 03:13 #
what a gorgeous reference with a tooth to episode 13 of season 3. there, after the doctor burned the master's body, the master's ring fell out of the funeral pyre, and some woman's hand ALSO WITH a RED MANICURE picked up this ring. here a hand with a red manicure lifted a tooth, which, according to the toymaker, contains a master. and while everyone is wondering whose hand it was, I'm just getting high from having this reference.
KristenSmall
KristenSmall
11 Dec 2023, 08:18 #
Who knows in which season of the old Dock the toymaker appeared?
JaneWatson
JaneWatson
PRO
11 Dec 2023, 08:27 #
Season 3 episode Heavenly Toymaker, but the problem is that of the 4 parts of the series, only the last one has been preserved, but the BBC is making a cartoon version of the series
KristenSmall
KristenSmall
11 Dec 2023, 09:09 #
@JaneWatson: thank you, I only mastered Season 1
valeyard
valeyard
11 Dec 2023, 19:01 #
@KristenSmall: we stopped in vain, it's much more interesting next and you'll love it and by season 3 the pictures are not through force, but look at them normally
KristenSmall
KristenSmall
11 Dec 2023, 20:35 #
@valeyard: I haven't stopped, I'm just looking very slowly 🤣
JaneWatson
JaneWatson
PRO
11 Dec 2023, 08:25 #
After such a dance, the Spice Girls should be reborn again
rhy_no
rhy_no
11 Dec 2023, 15:17 #
I wonder if Korea will somehow react to the downing of its satellite or will they forget about this little detail? Of course, I understand that the Doctor is the President of the World, but…
valeyard
valeyard
11 Dec 2023, 19:02 #
@rhy_no: you can't trample on your superiors without it
Кайла
Кайла
11 Dec 2023, 16:57 #
This special has improved more than the last two
It smelled like a Doctor
I haven't watched the last few seasons, but it was nice to be back.
Jokey looks great, maybe it's a reason to come back)
DeadDanny
DeadDanny
PRO
11 Dec 2023, 17:01 #
So this episode wasn't a dream? I thought I was dreaming about this nonsense at the end. Especially the way the hammer cloned the Tardis.
Well, now I want a spin-off about Tennant. Let the young people look at the carefree Jester and Learn New York, and I'd rather stay with my true Doctor.
valeyard
valeyard
11 Dec 2023, 19:04 #
@DeadDanny: DoctorDonna the best
AlexBober
AlexBober
13 Dec 2023, 02:48 #
@DeadDanny: Yes, the idea of a hammer is, of course, the ultimate disregard for the logic of the series and the fans in general. so you can endlessly "knock out" the Tardis?))) Yes, and doctors
andre5000
andre5000
12 Dec 2023, 00:51 #
I found myself thinking that one thing always confuses me - they'll fog up, present a completely invincible antagonist, and eventually defeat him with a snap of their fingers. Here are the superchargers!
AlexBober
AlexBober
13 Dec 2023, 02:46 #
@andre5000: This was also the case, for example, with "dream lords" in season 12... They could be cool antagonists for an entire story arc for a season or more! how many cool ideas are ruined in a series like this. apparently, the installation is worth "simplifying as much as possible so that everything is in one episode."..
kasinovich
kasinovich
12 Dec 2023, 01:05 #
Well, if the new Doctor had been given this outfit, a shirt and panties, I wouldn't mind 😅
SentinelTheGrey
SentinelTheGrey
12 Dec 2023, 01:37 #
As a fan of sci-fi and nearby fandom, Neil Patrick Harris ' character received a "Q" vibe from The Star Track. A god-like, chaotic, other-dimensional creature that brings "magic" to our ordinary world. That was cool.
KonstantinRomeow
KonstantinRomeow
PRO
12 Dec 2023, 10:11 #
Dessverre er Jeg ikke kjent Med Star Trek, men jeg forstar hva du mener. Leketøyprodusenten minnet meg på en eller annen måte om karakteren Mxyzptlk fra DC comics om Superman, eller Bat-Mite fra Batman - tegneseriene-de er også superkraftige skapninger fra den femte dimensjonen, i stand til å endre virkeligheten rundt dem etter eget ønske.
thelastg
thelastg
12 Dec 2023, 23:23 #
It's a pity the episode is only 43 minutes long.
Bye Doctor, I'll miss you
AlexBober
AlexBober
13 Dec 2023, 02:42 #
do viewers and commentators REALLY care SO much about what happens in the series: as long as something happens, and that the series goes on...
here you have constant retcons, and some kind of clowning, and an absolute lack of drama, and cardboard characters...

The toymaker is good. An unscientific spontaneous theme from the classics looks unusual in new school.
But there is a general sense of fatigue from all three episodes. This carnival of fanservice, seasoned with an agenda, is only needed to sweeten the pill of inevitable innovations. Sadly.

that's the opinion after watching the series and reading all the comments...
it feels like there are no true DC fans left. charge the minusomets, drown them.
KonstantinRomeow
KonstantinRomeow
PRO
13 Dec 2023, 08:37 #
@AlexBober: "Doctor Who" is a series that has accustomed its viewers to constant changes for decades, and at the same time from time to time brought back old beloved characters for a "nostalgia parade". And it seems to me that those who complain about it are NOT the real fans of Doctor Who, but the real ones - they watch and enjoy.

Over the past couple of days, while I was doing origami folding, I turned on YouTube and watched about thirty reactions from different people to "Star Beast", "Wild Blue Yonder" and "The Giggle". Real fans are crying with happiness to see David Tennant and Catherine Tate again, as well as Wilfred, Melanie Bush and Kate Stewart. The real fans are happy that Russell T. Davis is writing exciting scripts again, and Murray Gold is once again creating music that gives goosebumps. Real fans are inspired and intrigued by what a bright future Doctor Who will bring The Fifteenth Doctor performed by Jokey Gatva and his companion Ruby Rose performed by Millie Gibson (by the way, an excerpt from the Christmas special with a goblin song is simply awesome, and there is wild chemistry between the Fifteenth and Ruby: https://youtu.be/XXgnqGTOXTE?si=DxSHoz43WwA-NDh6 )
KonstantinRomeow
KonstantinRomeow
PRO
13 Dec 2023, 08:37 #
And yes, of course, in the recommendations from YouTube I came across videos from those who say that "Doctor Who" was half-dead from the fact that a woman was taken to the main role, and Russell T. Davis returned not to save the series, but to finally kill him with a gay Negro Joke Gatva, with dancing songs, strollers, Hindus and trances, the television ratings of each of the three anniversary specials sank lower and lower (as if this meant something in the streaming era), bi-generation is a spit and dance on the grave of the once great series and the new sonic screwdriver of the Fifteenth Doctor looks like a sex toy (in general, it looks like a TV remote control and the Thirteenth sonic screwdriver looked like a sex toy...).
But fortunately all these racists, sexists, homophobes (in a word, fuckers) have tens and hundreds of times fewer views, and any adequate people understand which side in this "dispute" it is better and more correct to stand on
EmilD
EmilD
13 Dec 2023, 21:42 #
@KonstantinRomeow: it's funny, but these same people literally 5 years ago said that the series was dead, that's right really died when the series with Jody came out, on their pages you can also find the same videos and DOCTOR's TRIP, they joked about menstruation and the Doctor's bra, they also wrote that the screwdriver Doctors look like a vibrator, they also wrote about Blacks, Indians and other people, these people literally produce hatred and nothing but hatred and, to be honest, I don't understand how they live with it at all...
MarkRaffer
MarkRaffer
20 Dec 2023, 14:56 #
@EmilD: iiiiiiiiiii? the main thing in television is to have views, and they just weren't with Jody. What is it but "dead"?
EmilD
EmilD
20 Dec 2023, 20:41 #
@MarkRaffer: Because Jody had views?)
MarkRaffer
MarkRaffer
20 Dec 2023, 21:40 #
@EmilD: No... Jody didn't have any views, that's the point.
KonstantinRomeow
KonstantinRomeow
PRO
21 Dec 2023, 01:59 #
@MarkRaffer: actually, the fact that the seasons with Jodi did not have views is a myth replicated by her haters. If we look at the open information about the number of viewers, we will see that, in general, viewing episodes of Doctor Who, although falling (since the beginning of the era of Matt Smith and throughout the era of Peter Capaldi), but it happened at a very gradual and insignificant pace. In fact, we can say that the average number of viewers is exactly the same for episodes with Matt Smith, episodes with Peter Capaldi, and episodes with Jodie Whittaker.
And the very first episode of the Jodie Whittaker era, "The Woman Who Fell to Earth," actually broke the BBC's long-standing record for the number of viewers on premiere day.

And I just want to note once again that the further into the forest, the more firewood there is... Oh, I didn't want to write that - the closer to our time, the less important the number of live views plays, more and more people switch to streaming every year. The number of viewers on the BBC in Britain for the three anniversary specials with David Tennant, in fact, no longer plays a role at all, because the main viewings come from all over the world on Disney+
NaruHinka
NaruHinka
21 Dec 2023, 02:30 #
@MarkRaffer: If you haven't watched them, it doesn't mean that the others haven't
EmilD
EmilD
21 Dec 2023, 07:54 #
@MarkRaffer: will there be any proof?)
For example, I know that the average rating of season 12 is 5.4 million, the average rating of season 13 is 4.95, of course there was a decrease in ratings, this is a fact, but it is unfounded to say that there were no views, well, that.
MarkRaffer
MarkRaffer
21 Dec 2023, 10:53 #
@KonstantinRomeow: the first episode DOES NOT COUNT, so there is no need to display the average temperature in the hospital here, since the third episode with Jody was watched by half of those who decided to watch the first one. So - well, don't do this twitching, OK? All seasons with Jody are a total failure. These are the realities!
MarkRaffer
MarkRaffer
21 Dec 2023, 10:54 #
@NaruHinka: yes, I didn't watch it!
MarkRaffer
MarkRaffer
21 Dec 2023, 11:06 #
@EmilD: Let's do this... There are villages like Vilaribo and Vilabajo... and the residents of Vilaribo claim that they have an average of 20 cm of pipis, and Vilabajo has an average of 15, but measurements were carried out there. Why am I doing this? Television ratings are a very ephemeral substance and do not always take into account watching the series from beginning to end. Yes, they have polls if they looked for 5 minutes, which already counts.
But let's look at where we can look, namely myshows. And what do we see?
The last season with Capaldi, not the most popular, by the way, the doctor - 640 thousand users of the side noted how they watched it. The first season with Jody - 300 thousand, the second season - 203 thousand, and the third, he is the last - 90 thousand. These are the most unsightly facts. The user himself notes what he has looked at. NINETY thousand. against 640 or more than one and a half million with Smith in the conditional 6th season.
MarkRaffer
MarkRaffer
21 Dec 2023, 11:35 #
@NaruHinka: and what is it, dear? Are you ignoring the facts? Well, flow around, flow around... 90 thousand against one and a half million? Maybe put the question differently? If you watched, it does not mean that others WATCHED too!
Well, please ignore it! and considering what kind of feces you're looking at, you should have done it a long time ago.
EmilD
EmilD
21 Dec 2023, 12:59 #
@MarkRaffer:
> TV ratings are a very ephemeral substance and don't always take into account watching a series from start to finish.

You confuse broadcast channels with streaming, this may happen in streaming, but Doctor Who is shown on TV on BBC One, and not in streaming, so they count all the viewing time from start to finish and then count the average, you can even find 5-minute breakdowns in the right places and see which one the length of time how many people watched the series. In Britain, there is a BARB system that has been registering ratings for more than 50 years.
If you want to deny objective facts, it's your right.
MarkRaffer
MarkRaffer
21 Dec 2023, 13:21 #
@EmilD: In what way, dear? how? In the UK, 5-7% of households still have black and white televisions. How do you calculate through the antenna whether you watched Doctor Who from beginning to end, or how did you switch to advertising on Sky and stay there to watch football or cricket?
But what do you need to know about BARB? Participating viewers have a box on their TVs that tracks the programs they watch. In other words, this is some kind of focus group, and not all British TV viewers. Currently, about 5,100 houses are involved in the BARB group (which corresponds to about 12,000 people). This means that with a total UK population of 65,648,100, according to the 2016 census, each viewer with the BARB reporting window represents over 5,000 people! And that's exactly what I'm talking about - and in Vilaribo they claim that they have a 20 cm pipit.
So what about objectivity? First of all, you should at least study the matcha before getting into arguments and discussions!

ps. understand! BARB is needed not for accounting, but to roughly represent the order of the numbers and try to convince the advertiser that this product is being used for so much and so much. This is done exclusively for advertising purposes, and there is no real accounting, because the margin of error is enormous.
EmilD
EmilD
21 Dec 2023, 15:29 #
@MarkRaffer: Well, the previous seasons were calculated using the BARB in the same way)
According to your logic, no one watched the series then, and now it turns out, although BARB has long established itself as the best and most accurate rating tracking system.

I'm well versed in the match, I've been following the ratings of Doctor Who for more than 10 years, and you don't even know that the BBC doesn't give a damn about advertisers, there are no ads on their channels because they make income tax deductible, but you continue to judge by the numbers of maishous, your the right)
MarkRaffer
MarkRaffer
21 Dec 2023, 16:09 #
@EmilD: according to my logic, I wrote - I took myshows and looked at how many people were rejected when watching Capaldi... moreover, I note that it was registered voluntarily, since for myself and here all kinds of cheating are minimal. So much for Capaldi, how much for Smith, and how much for Jody. If you don't believe it, see for yourself how Smith dropped from more than one and a half million to 90 thousand with Jody in her last season. That's the ugly truth.
As for "advertisers don't give a damn", you're telling someone else here, and ratings are not only for the BBC, but they also count on other channels. But this is your "don't give a fuck", it clearly demonstrates how much you really swim in all these TV nuances and the product you produce must be competitive.
EmilD
EmilD
21 Dec 2023, 18:02 #
@MarkRaffer: Lol, I've just looked at where you got these numbers from and I'm laughing very loudly. Just look at this math genius)
According to your logic, 1.5 million for Smith is 1.5 million unique viewers (or rather 1.3 million) who have marked episodes and specials, the mayshous admins are probably flattered by such indicators, but I have to disappoint you, this is just the sum of views of all episodes and specials, Smith has 19 different episodes and specials in season 5, 7 the season is even more than 2 million, this is not an average, that is, if you marked all the episodes of season 5, then you will have 19 votes there, but not everyone marks the finals.

If you watch, you need to watch for unique views, for each episode, they decrease with each episode from year to year, this is normal, especially for long-running series.

Chris's first episode has 107,000 views. https://myshows.me/view/episode/25987 /, Chris' latest episode has 97 thousand views https://myshows.me/view/episode/25999/

Tennant's first episode has 94,000 views. https://myshows.me/view/episode/26000 /, Tennant's latest episode has 84 thousand views https://myshows.me/view/episode/26038/

Smith's first episode has 84,000 views. https://myshows.me/view/episode/26039 / , Smith's latest episode has 72 thousand views https://myshows.me/view/episode/1657672/

Capaldi's first episode has 62 thousand views. https://myshows.me/view/episode/2192314 /, the latest Capaldi episode has 37 thousand views https://myshows.me/view/episode/16033202/

The first episode of Jody has 30 thousand views. https://myshows.me/view/episode/16606455 /, Jody's latest episode has 12 thousand views https://myshows.me/view/episode/16606455 /
there is a drop, no one even argues here, but it is also visible in the ratings, which are considered the barb system)

The new titles generally have only 8 thousand views. https://myshows.me/view/87180/doctor-who-season-1 /, it turns out that according to your logic, they were watched even less than the episodes with Jody, well, a complete failure)
MarkRaffer
MarkRaffer
21 Dec 2023, 18:18 #
@EmilD: Did I write about averages somewhere? Yes, this is the sum of the views of all the episodes.
the season. But there's nothing to beat the NINETY thousand figures, and many, and the vast majority, don't mark the scores as viewed. The system also does not mark if you automatically select the viewed season. So at one and a half million and at 90 thousand, this is more than true data. If you divide it by the number of users who watched the seasons with Jody at all, then the situation there is even more deplorable.
So why are you so defending a real low-quality product, trying to pass it off as something good? The question, as they say, is rhetorical... Oh, you don't have to do that!

That's it, I'm tired... psh0l is ignored! If I see your writing, I don't even know what it says, but I'll give you a minus, because you just can't write anything meaningful, which means you deserve it. Free!
Нестин
Нестин
21 Dec 2023, 18:19 #
@EmilD: haha, but I was sitting and thinking how Smith got one and a half million marks when there aren't even a million users on the site. That's what I understand the level.
It's time for the BBC to stop manipulating ratings. We all know that Doctor Who is dead.
EmilD
EmilD
21 Dec 2023, 18:25 #
@MarkRaffer: lol :D

Only Smith has 19 episodes in season 5, Jody has only 9 in the last one, it's clear to a fool that there will be fewer views, if you also take into account that the haste is much less often noted, and Jody even more so)

>> That's it, tired... psh0l is ignored!

But you called me yourself...
EmilD
EmilD
21 Dec 2023, 18:27 #
@Nestin: yes, I also didn't understand what it was about at first, because I'm still sitting on the old version of myshous, I didn't study the new functions, but then I decided to look at where these numbers came from and it dawned on me :D
KonstantinRomeow
KonstantinRomeow
PRO
22 Dec 2023, 01:04 #
Are there any features missing from the classic MyShows on the new design besides the ability to mark movies?

Oh, I don't like such an aggressive push to switch to a new design, even though it's not directly terrible-terrible, but just 20 percent less convenient...
oynin
oynin
13 Dec 2023, 22:23 #
I watched the last season so much that I don't remember what was there at all, I was so not interested. and then Tennant came back, and for me personally, they managed to breathe new life into the series. I felt the good old doctor atmosphere. and jokingly, I really like Gatva in the role of the doctor, it suits him!
Иерарх
Иерарх
14 Dec 2023, 00:18 #
Does RTD have a Doctor's duplication fetish? And it is Tennant
They are already working on regenerations as they want. It used to be an EVENT, now it's some kind of circus.;
Michael_Kae
Michael_Kae
14 Dec 2023, 04:48 #
Neil Patrick Harris is great as a Toymaker! And this dance in the UNIT is just a song😁

But the bigeneration solution is clearly something that RTD tried not to kill Tennant with for the second time in 13 years
Although knowing RTD, he can do it during the season with Jokes to make it even more painful for the fans

I liked the groundwork for something large-scale, which will still have time to prove itself in the coming seasons:
1. The Master (not again, but again) will return, which is generally expected, and this hand taking the tooth is an obvious reference to the return of Master John Simm
2. "The One Who Waits" sounds almost like "The One Who Stays" from Loki (it would be an epic crossover, but don't, please😅), so I hope for something cool

Well, will someone give the 15th pants already? Or does he not know where the wardrobe is in the Tardis?
valeyard
valeyard
18 Dec 2023, 20:47 #
@Michae_Kae: Everyone writes not to kill Tennant... But is it really true? He has killed him 3 times already. I think it's all in order to kill him as many times as possible)))
Xosya
Xosya
15 Dec 2023, 06:06 #
what I just watched, well, bullshit =(I was so upset, what the fuck is bioregeneration, what the fuck are two doctors with one home, it's not even a metacrisis. Well, they wanted a new doctor, well, they would have come up with something else like spins, but I'm very upset with this kind of bullshit =(
Yes, yes, I am ready for hundreds of failures.
Well, in fact.
I have nothing against the new doctor, we will look, it was this turn that upset the story.
Empik
Empik
15 Dec 2023, 10:23 #
RTD loves Chekhov's Gun so much: in one scene, the unit's employees are "still falling off the roof," and in another, the Toymaker "loses" because he "couldn't catch the ball," which... Falling off the roof! (And, of course, we remember the dance scene in which the Toymaker demonstrated teleportation). Gorgeous.
KonstantinRomeow
KonstantinRomeow
PRO
15 Dec 2023, 10:34 #
@Empik: before the card game scene, Donna said that "he's cheating," and the Toymaker and the Doctor explained to her in accessible English that the Toymaker is physically unable to cheat in the game, this is in fact his only weak point - he is bound by the rules of the game as we are bound by the laws of physics. Before playing the ball, the Toymaker outlined the rules "drop - lose", so jumping off after the ball and teleporting back would be cheating, and he would most likely be flattened into a box in the same way
Sclif
Sclif
16 Dec 2023, 17:10 #
RTD intelligently came up with biregeneration, now if a new doctor does not come to the public, you can always kill him at the end of the season, and start a new one with a hurry with Tennant from whom the next new doctor is biregenerating
EmilD
EmilD
16 Dec 2023, 22:09 #
@Sclif: No one will do that to the first black Doctor, just like no one removed Jody from the canon.
Jeronimoo
Jeronimoo
16 Dec 2023, 18:25 #
Probably the last one I looked at!!!Well, I was afraid to watch the last episode for almost a week, wondering how it would end, but I definitely didn't expect this!!!T. Davis still managed to do it. An absolute genius on the showrunner. Wow!!!
The last 15 minutes of the episode literally consists of it just happened.what?what?what?- I kept repeating it endlessly!!!
But how beautiful David and Catherine are!I adore their duet just to infinity!Incredible!The emotions of their game more than cover all the flaws of the plot.
They left the Tardis itself! Aaaaaaa! And we have to believe that there won't be any more Tennant episodes😁 Ha! I'm definitely looking forward to a spin-off with them. 😍😍😍
I'm thrilled with this idea of leaving Tennant with Donna, I wouldn't survive his death again...
I'm thrilled with the simply amazing Toyboy and his dancing with rose petals.
From the fact that everything is fine in the end.
And oh, how I missed Wilf at the common table.😭😭 A bright memory of this wonderful actor, I loved Grandpa Wilfred so much....
The Fourteenth perceived the return as a second chance and began to work on himself...I really noticed the changes, he was so sad all three episodes, I noticed it back in the starry beast))
This. Simply. Fucking. I cried and sobbed, but I'm so happy!!!! He stayed!!!!!Yeah!!!!
I am very impressed with everything, Tennant's game is just on the break and Katherine is just like, everything is at the highest level, this is the best birthday gift from RTD.
Remembering 4- He didn't want to leave so much that He didn't leave...This is his reward....And I'm happy...
it wasn't enough for me to have three episodes, seriously, but can I please have 20 more episodes with David and Catherine, they're so awesome!!!
He was destined to meet Donna again and return home...❤❤❤❤❤
Jeronimoo
Jeronimoo
16 Dec 2023, 18:31 #
In general, I would like to say that I like how all three episodes progressed, the first one was quite intimate and calm, but there were a lot of surprises, the second one is cooler, but without scope, and the third one feels POWERFUL and really (finally! anniversary.
It's incredibly touching to watch how Donna tried to get the Doctor to have a heart-to-heart conversation, but he doesn't have time, it feels like he's been missing this conversation for a VERY long time...That's why I had to go back and meet Donna...and the answer to the question why this face...
There is a suspicion that the scriptwriters came up with it remembering Donna's words in 4 - "Yes, you are like worms"!
But I am very glad that everything ended well for Donna after so many years .
It was as if RTD had taken and turned the most coveted fanfiction from my fantasies into reality.... I love this dude so much, I just don't know where to go from emotions...
God, God, where to run on the ceiling with delight!
When the Toyman shot Tennant, I almost screamed, because it was as unexpected as possible, it seemed that everything happened too fast. And Here We Go Again, Allons-y and... wait. what? what? What about bi-generation?AND ARE YOU KIDDING? once again, we divided the Doctor into two, although of course not quite, but still VERY similar to the "End of the Journey", only now Tennant was left to Donna.... There are too many questions, too many. each of them is a Doctor, but how many regenerations does each have? or Tennant will just grow old and die one day.. And if not? Do they have common memories? And the character? It all seems strange.... But the idea that the Doctor has a part that should have gone on vacation a long time ago, reflected and stayed with Donna (that's fine!) anyway, in the end I cried!!!
Jeronimoo
Jeronimoo
16 Dec 2023, 18:34 #
And yes, it's good that the Doctor showed up... A brother???So now he's not alone?Finally!!!So it's like he's not the last time lord, yeah... and there is someone who will always understand him, but it's him!
And what's going to happen next....
Confused, no other series has ever broken my brain so much...But the joke is cool, I liked it, maybe I will watch it, but not the fact that right away...
I also hoped until the last moment that they would show one of the old Doctors, at least for a couple of minutes.. But THEY MENTIONED THE OLD COMPANIONS, THANKS AAH, it just cut to the heart ...
and the character development of the Doctor and Donna is amazing!!! At some point, you have to stop, live, feel ...
the finale really feels like the end of a chapter, finding peace, only surrounded by loved ones. A real family, The Doctor allows himself not just the duty of care but also to be cared for and loved by you know.....
In short, the releases are incredible, so much nostalgia... There are things to think about, there are pleasant moments, Tennant is gorgeous, Donna is the best, thank you all if you read this.
АннаГронский
АннаГронский
16 Dec 2023, 18:35 #
When the Doctor partially stayed with Rosa, I sobbed. When Tennant regenerated for the first time, I cried. Now I was crying.
Tennant, Tate, Jokey, and Neal. Everything is great in this series.
Jeronimoo
Jeronimoo
17 Dec 2023, 01:58 #
I would also like to say separately about Donna and Catherine, respectively)))
I can see the development of Donna- she has learned to stand up for herself (to defend personal boundaries with her mother, to get a PO increase from Kate, not to doubt her abilities- she was wow before, but now she's just an awesome woman!!!I love her madly!!!
She built a healthy relationship with her mom, which would have been unthinkable even for Donna, who knew the doctor, in the fourth season they were only toxic, and now they can talk heart to heart (the scenes in the kitchen at the beginning of the finale are just wonderful!!!). she raised a gorgeous daughter, she lived with her husband for 15 years in a happy marriage. It's all worth a lot and says a lot about her as a person. This is not the rude donna from the beginning of the runaway bride, who screamed at the doctor and taxi drivers at the top of her voice..She seems to be wiser, and when she already remembered the doctor, all their exciting journeys and how vast and beautiful the universe is, she refused to enter the tardis, saying that she now "has her own adventures" with Rose.. This Donna is genuinely happy with everything she has, she just couldn't feel happy every second because of the gaps in her memory.
But in general, it would be interesting to learn more about this period! For example, what jobs has she been working at all this time?
And by the way, Donna's face after getting a high-paying job is a masterpiece!!!!And yes, Catherine is an amazing actress, I've loved her since that episode of the runaway bride and I keep falling in love even more, I want to repeat a hundred times how amazing she is!!!Thank you RTD for bringing back this beautiful woman, and for making her happy, and truly the most important woman in the entire forever universe!!!!!
Ps. And once again, it's amazing!!! Tennant played and gave himself all three episodes, all three of them were just the best performances, love for the hero and the world, he, just HIM. I love this dude for infinity!!!!!!
snorkelle
snorkelle
17 Dec 2023, 15:39 #
Nostalgia forced me to go back to the beginning and review the 4 seasons. After all, season 4 is, in my opinion, the best season. And the first 4 are the most interesting and memorable. With the 11th Doctor, there are also interesting episodes, with the 12th, almost nothing is remembered, except for individual fragments. And I don't even want to review it. But with the 13th doctor, it was as if nothing had happened at all - I don't remember the plots, companions, adventures at all. I remember that there was disappointment and a feeling that the series had deteriorated. And what a blessing that RTD has returned and returned to us the 10th Doctor and Donna, the best duo! Just a breath of fresh air and a whirlwind of warm emotions. This is a wonderful gift for fans of the series.
Jeronimoo
Jeronimoo
17 Dec 2023, 15:45 #
@snorkelle: I absolutely agree that season 4 is the best, and that the duet of 10 and Donna is incredible, I love them so much))by the way, I also didn't like the 13th at all, I stopped watching then))For me, playing Tennant's 10 is the best!!RTD is really a genius for bringing him back, even if it's only for 3 episodes.
valeyard
valeyard
18 Dec 2023, 20:58 #
@snorkelle: I agree with everything except 13, after reviewing, the plots reminded me a lot of the classics. Timing was just not enough...
Jeffew
Jeffew
PRO
17 Dec 2023, 17:43 #
if they had thrown him out on the street without the Tardis, I would not have forgiven them at all. nice try with a double take, but can I just watch the endless lunch now instead of the new doctor who flew away?
Sherly_Mathers
Sherly_Mathers
PRO
17 Dec 2023, 19:00 #
How I needed those three spashles!! and how I missed Tennant as the Doctor. And how I missed Donna 💔
the best 3 episodes of recent times, I will definitely review in the future. yes , there was even a desire to review the seasons again with the Tenth 🫂
Sherly_Mathers
Sherly_Mathers
PRO
17 Dec 2023, 19:04 #
"you changed your face, and then you found me." Do you know why?
– No.
"to get back home."

screaming, crying, throwing up 💔😭
Jeronimoo
Jeronimoo
18 Dec 2023, 01:05 #
@Sherly_Mathers: Oh my God, this moment is my favorite, these conversations>>>>>❤Donna is an incredible and wise woman 😍
Catherine_1309
Catherine_1309
19 Dec 2023, 15:45 #
I think the new doctor will come in like the previous ones, except for the woman. Honestly, I watched episodes with a female doctor through the force, waiting for the doctor to be replaced by a man. All her movements reminded me of Doctor number nine, just like a carbon copy. Everyone before her had some kind of personality, a trick. and with her arrival, something went wrong. But this new doctor, I think he's 14, came to me from the very first seconds. I think it's going to be a great season.
ta_petite_amie
ta_petite_amie
20 Dec 2023, 00:03 #
My question is, why wasn't Osgood in unit? I don't really remember seasons 13 of the Doctor, maybe she goes somewhere there?
KonstantinRomeow
KonstantinRomeow
PRO
20 Dec 2023, 03:10 #
@ta_petite_amie: Osgood did not appear in the Thirteenth Doctor seasons either, the last time she was in the two-part episode "Invasion of the Zygons / Transformation of the Zygons" in season 9 with the Twelfth Doctor and Clara.

Although after that, there were also a couple of Osgood appearances in comics that I hadn't read, and just a metric TON of appearances in audio plays from Big Finish that I hadn't listened to. Plus, Osgood was one of the three main characters (along with the Thirteenth Doctor and Larry Nightingale) in one of the most recent Doctor Who video games, The Lonely Assassins 2021 on Android and Steam, which continues the plot of the iconic episode "Don't Blink".
I haven't played this game, so I don't know what happens to Osgood in the story besides the fact that she helps Larry investigate the Crying Angels, but I'm inclined to believe that it's very UNLIKELY that anything bad happened to Osgood in the game, it would be a strange development of the story of an important character behind the scenes. I really wanted to read the plot of the audio plays and games on the TardisWiki at least "diagonally" to make 100% sure for you that everything is fine with Osgood, but there are too many letters, I couldn't handle it.

As for her absence from Unit during "Starry Beast" and "Chuckle" - perhaps she is somewhere on a business trip to another country, or just on another field operation. From the point of view of our real world, and not the in-series one, perhaps the actress Ingrid Oliver was unavailable during the filming of the anniversary specials, or maybe Russell T. Davis just really wanted to involve the new researcher of the UNIT, Shirley Ann Bingham (a girl in a wheelchair) in the plot. If you remember the episode "Planet of the Dead" (with the Tenth Doctor and Lady Cristina de Sousa), Malcolm Taylor was UNIT's research associate, which means UNIT has other people in this position besides Osgood.
blitzen
blitzen
22 Dec 2023, 21:49 #
To some extent, I can understand everyone who was delusional and didn't get it. But they fixed my heart. For the first time since 2009, it won't hurt to watch the Doctor. Whatever RTD does next, I already forgive him in advance for giving everything, and most importantly, a miracle. This episode is like being hugged and warmed up after a long long long cold.
mary_anjel
mary_anjel
23 Dec 2023, 13:45 #
Neil Patrick Harris is, of course, very creepy in his toy shop.
but listening to his clumsy German was painful)))

Dancing to Spice Up Your Life is a real treat. they brought me back to the distant I Can't Decide :)

"You're gonna be someone else. It doesn't matter who. Cause every single one of you is fantastic." - I don't quite agree, yes, everyone is wonderful, but still Dr. Tennant remains out of reach. and these comeback spashings on the 14th just showed us that.

After looking at the new Doctor, I don't think I'm going to watch the next season. This actor is too handsome and hot. He's just very cute, like any actor in American TV series. He's undeniably charismatic, but I prefer Brits with a weird cast.

Dr. Tennant, of course, is so haggard at the end. he directly REFLECTS everything that has accumulated inside him over the past regenerations. As I understand it, a new young face will start a fresh page in the history of the Doctor.

I was very pleased with the golden tooth that remained from the Toy.

I was suddenly drawn to review my favorite seasons from 9th, 10th and 11th. such nostalgia took over.
andreyck
andreyck
24 Dec 2023, 11:40 #
Hmm, when the Doctor was talking about the first meeting with Toymaker, he called himself too young. Does this mean that Chibnell's twist has been canceled?
KonstantinRomeow
KonstantinRomeow
PRO
24 Dec 2023, 23:23 #
@andreyck: You didn't seem to be paying attention to the last episode, because there the Doctor, in a dialogue with non-Donna, confirmed that he wasn't from Gallifrey and didn't know where he was from. Specifically, in this episode, Toyboy and the Doctor mentioned a Stream, during which the Doctor actually met Tekteyun and received a watch with memories of her past. Russell T. Davis has mentioned in various interviews that he has deep respect for the work of his colleagues on Doctor Who, and in particular Chris Chibnell, and there will be no open retcon of past events. If you watch the video in which Russell T Davies, Steven Moffat and Chris Chibnell talk at the same table, you can see that these are just three friends who share a love for the series they have watched since childhood, and none of them have any contempt or disdain for Chibnell, it comes only from particularly toxic viewers.

However, if you remember the scene of the Doctor talking to the Toymaker before playing cards, the Toymaker told the Doctor "I made a puzzle out of your history" ("I made a mosaic/puzzle out of your story") and it was this phrase that, according to Western fans of the series, Russell T. Davis wrote into this dialogue in order for fans to they could gently and unobtrusively explain any inconsistencies in the canon by referring to the Toyman's manipulations. Did the eighth say that he's half human on his mother's side? This is a Toyboy playing with the Doctor's story. Do the second and Jamie remember the events that they didn't find? This is a Toyboy playing with the Doctor's story. Does the episode "Morbius Brain" show the Doctor's faces before the First One? Thirteen found out that she wasn't from Gallifrey and met the Doctor's regeneration before the First One? This is a Toyman playing with the Doctor's story, rewriting the old reality into a new one.

I repeat, there are no plans for an open retcon, Timeless Child and Flux are canon. But if it's easier for you, you can explain the inconsistencies in the canon by manipulating the Toyman.
TimelordRu
TimelordRu
24 Dec 2023, 23:53 #
So so so, why did Kate pick up the master = tooth? Do they really want to transfer to a clan of villains?
And which master am I talking about, I'd like to know?
KonstantinRomeow
KonstantinRomeow
PRO
25 Dec 2023, 10:54 #
@TimelordRu: What makes you think it was Kate? Kate's nails weren't painted bright red. Anyway, the scene was clearly a reference to the scene with the ring of the Master, and was shot so that the audience would not guess who exactly picked up the tooth (by the way, judging by the camera angle at the moment of lifting the tooth, this someone should have been hanging in the air next to the helicopter pad of the UNIT tower)

This is most likely about the Master Sasha Dhawan, who died on the cybermoon after sending a ray of living energy to pulse on the Thirteenth. Well, or if the writers of the series want to rewrite the events of the audio plays, then perhaps it's about Missy after a double suicide (although then the Toyman would probably say "Missy" and not "Master"). In any case, it doesn't matter which Master was sharpened in the tooth, the next time we see him, he will already be played by a new actor or actress, and we will have the same sudden twist as with Professor Yang, Harold Saxon, Missy or Agent Oh, because this is the trick of the Master - impersonating someone else, and it's hard to do it with a familiar face. I guarantee you that, I even give you a tooth (pun intended)
TimelordRu
TimelordRu
25 Dec 2023, 11:00 #
@KonstantinRomeow: she has red nails visible at the beginning of the episode..
miroslava_22
miroslava_22
25 Dec 2023, 09:53 #
Me-wow
Me-wow
25 Dec 2023, 16:46 #
It was wonderful. It's like an unhealed wound from the fourth season has finally been healed) Thank you, RTD, for such love for the duo of David and Catherine, this is the best embodiment of friendship and support in the world. He left them together, made them a family, and parked them side by side, happy too. And without any romantic uselessness) In this universe, even Wilf is alive and well and fighting moles)

Individual applause from the NPH, this wonderful actor does not know how to play badly. How does this theatricality suit him)

It was worth waiting so many years for.
Yellzz
Yellzz
29 Dec 2023, 15:25 #
literally the whole episode couldn't tear itself away before the bi-generation, it was dark and creepy and emotional. It was just that the episode was literally perfect, and then there was an abrupt transition into clowning and humor, and the only thing that was good was Tennant and Gatwa, absolutely everything except their game at the end was bad.
Meerjungfrau666
Meerjungfrau666
29 Dec 2023, 23:52 #
So many emotions per episode! It was just amazing. The acting evokes indescribable feelings, it's so wonderful! 🤧

The joke about ramps and an accessible environment made me smile)))
Regis-emiel
Regis-emiel
30 Dec 2023, 00:53 #
cool episode.
The toy was just fiery. that fake German accent of his, and how the dude practically told him during a racist hint that his moustache had come off. :D is terribly funny.
And how she dances, how she laughs! and that look. that's how fucking ancient and alien it is.
and all these memes that are now playing with zets allright Zen are also delivering.
The master trapped in the golden tooth - yes! a hand with a reference to the unforgettable Lucy. :)
and a light kick in the direction of Moffat, who somehow has everything very sad with his companions. if you also count Missy in the same place, then in general. Well, that's what it is.
Lovely Mel, so nice to see her. and they even remembered that she was actually a programmer.
the doctor is so really tired and melting before my eyes. It's just that all the sins of the world are on him.
The unit's tower looked awfully like the Avengers tower. Just our response to Marvel!
but the ending blurred everything for me. very gratifying sentimental sentiments, another copy of Tennant, forever provided with a job now, fabulous absolutely bi-regeneration and looney Tune knocking the tardis out of the tardis with a hammer.
Everything is complicated!
but it looked in one go. RTD could, and still can!
but what's strange is that women's clothes regenerate into men's clothes with a bang, and poor men's clothes can't do anything at all, just share between dudes randomly. in short, women's clothing is clearly of a higher order.
And everyone except Martha got a doctor. The injustice! :)
The new doctor is nothing at first glance. stubborn and energetic.
Jeronimoo
Jeronimoo
30 Dec 2023, 03:27 #
@Regis-emiel: watch the Christmas episode with Jokey, you'll be happy at all))I didn't think I'd like him, but he's cool and it feels like he's a DOCTOR after all)))
Regis-emiel
Regis-emiel
30 Dec 2023, 12:30 #
@alenyshka_bella: I'll leave it for December 31st! :)
Regis-emiel
Regis-emiel
30 Dec 2023, 12:32 #
All the way through the series, the cool howling music in places resembled something so vague.
and finally I realized that the music was from a farscape. :)
yhogen
yhogen
02 Jan 2024, 23:07 #
Another Tardis that will never be remembered again.
It's weird that there are 2 doctors now. As if this gives a huge scope for imagination, but will Dr. Tennant be remembered at all in subsequent episodes? He stayed on earth and the new doctor will also return to earth often. They must intersect.
I really hope for the development of this branch, but I doubt that they will be able to implement it. Tennant returned for a couple of episodes.
ya_awolia_na
ya_awolia_na
06 Jan 2024, 17:21 #
@yhogen: of course this will still be used in the future, you can't send such a convenient trap for a fanservice anywhere)
ThornyRose
ThornyRose
09 Jan 2024, 18:26 #
I can't cry every special episode, it's wonderful!
ilpassetto
ilpassetto
PRO
11 Jan 2024, 16:13 #
The toymaker with his dance number in the Unit could compete with Jim Carrey in The Mask. 😅
Jeronimoo
Jeronimoo
11 Jan 2024, 18:06 #
@ilpassetto: Yeah, Neil is much cooler!!!it was not the behavior of the Toymaker in the dance that reminded me of "Love and Poverty" performed by "Aunt Charlie")))
tatarskaya
tatarskaya
14 Jan 2024, 22:31 #
Excuse me, will the Doctor always be without pants now?))

Neil Patrick Harris is the real highlight of the series. When I first heard that Jokey Gatwa would be the 15th Doctor, I immediately agreed that yes! Especially since he is Tennant's direct "heir", Gatva has a very wide range of emotions.

Honestly, I didn't even watch the female doctor - it was such a mess from the very first episode.

I can't say that Donna is my favorite companion of the Doctor. Personally, I liked Rosa and Clara the most.

Bi-generation seems to me a good technique to let Tennant's fans know that his time has passed. He was the best (I've been watching since the 9th), and his return is a little disappointing, as always the forced resurrection of a character is disappointing (the significance of his departure is decreasing). But it's still a pretty cute way to put a stop to it and give the 15th a chance to charm the audience the same way the 10th once charmed them.
V4L-RUINER
V4L-RUINER
23 Jan 2024, 21:02 #
Well, I don't even know...
a better double regeneration would certainly be nonsense.

Regeneration into other clothes is still annoying
(I read here in the comments why RTD did this, of course this move did not become less stupid from his explanation, even I would say more, but as for me it could be elegantly solved - during forced regeneration into the master, he could stupidly "go change clothes in men's" and then 14 would have quietly appeared in the master's clothes ...)

I was ready that Tennant would finally leave, of course it's nice that he was left, but there are a lot of questions.

Are doctors going to split up all the time now, or from time to time, or is this a one-time event?

Will each copy be able to split up in the same way? or will the previous one stop regenerating?

On the one hand, there is a lot of room for maneuver - each doctor can have his own series and you can periodically arrange deadly battles with packs of doctors, etc.

There are still doubts.
I don't know whether to be happy or getting ready to throw shit at the screenwriters.
I haven't decided yet.


Пенгвин
Пенгвин
30 Jan 2024, 16:04 #
Neil Patrick Harris is as amazing as ever.
The regeneration of the Doctor is just THAT SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO?????!!!!!?????!!!!
Капитан_Сосулька
Капитан_Сосулька
10 Feb 2024, 06:15 #
I realized that I was confused in all haste. That's why I stopped watching Jody's era, because her Doc did the same thing at first. The doctor had never said so much in New school, "I'm sorry, I can't, I don't know." Damn, he had a recipe for all occasions, he could only get depressed if the situation was as hopeless as possible, like the Daleks launching a reality bomb. But all three episodes are here because of any nonsense of "I'm sorry, Donna."
Jeronimoo
Jeronimoo
16 Feb 2024, 03:20 #
Can anyone tell me who watched and remembers old school, I just haven't watched it yet, but someday I'll definitely take a look, I'm just wondering now about the toyboy in what season he was or at least which doctor he met?It's very interesting to see 😍
KonstantinRomeow
KonstantinRomeow
PRO
16 Feb 2024, 06:20 #
@Geronimoooo: He was with the First Doctor, 1966, season 3, season 7 story "The Heavenly Toymaker". But of the five episodes, the first 4 are lost, so if you want to watch it, then it's better to wait until the animation reconstruction is done. They promise in 2024, there is even a trailer already
Jeronimoo
Jeronimoo
18 Feb 2024, 02:09 #
@KonstantinRomeow: it's a damn pity, but let's hope I'm looking forward to it, it's very interesting))thank you very much for the answer))
SophietheValiant
SophietheValiant
17 Feb 2024, 16:58 #
A cool series. I really liked Jokey, I just missed the hugs of the new and old doctors in the series.
vmerkalin99
vmerkalin99
19 Mar 2024, 01:46 #
How did I meet your mother?
miroslava_22
miroslava_22
28 Mar 2024, 14:24 #
miroslava_22
miroslava_22
30 Mar 2024, 15:07 #
ChrisBlack
ChrisBlack
16 Apr 2024, 00:23 #
Neil Patrick Harris is a master of his craft, he fits in great. It's a pity that the advantages end there. A disgusting series, I foresee the complete transformation of the series into a musical and a teen drama.
EmilD
EmilD
16 Apr 2024, 07:59 #
@ChrisBlack: What does a musical have to do with it?
As if the villain hadn't sung/danced to a popular music track in the series before, and as if there were no musical numbers in the series, yeah)
Teen drama, are you talking about the season 2 finale with the saddest music in the series?)
Jeronimoo
Jeronimoo
16 Apr 2024, 17:05 #
@EmilD: that's right, I agree with you, there was a musical number in season 13 with Sasha the Master)And it was cool, of course there's a little bit about drama and it's true, but certainly not teenage..very deep inner feelings of an adult and wise person who is more than 1 thousand years old for a second...
EmilD
EmilD
16 Apr 2024, 18:49 #
@Jeronimoo: It's just that there were musical scenes all the time in DC, although not in every episode. In the third season, when the Doctor and Martha got to New York in the forties, then the finale of season 3 and the Master with his I can't Decide, the 2010 finale with the song Abigail was born, then season 8 and the cover of Don't stop me know on the Space Orient Express.
I don't really understand such claims at all. It's like people don't like something and decide to stick to the highlight of the episode.
Jeronimoo
Jeronimoo
17 Apr 2024, 02:19 #
@EmilD: Yes, I agree with you, just in the top ten!I remember Master Simm very well, I just loved this actor, how he danced with the Doctor 😍It seems to me that this is a direct parallel with the Toy Maker...Neil played this role very cool, this scene can only be admired and certainly not criticized!It's always very enchanting!!The episode with Abigail and that boy and this beautiful song is also one of my favorites..I remember really crying at the end!💔💔💔Such moments are really the most vivid and unforgettable, I also don't understand how you can hate this..I hope it won't be worse with Jokey, I liked the way he sang that song with the trolls 😍
NaruHinka
NaruHinka
17 Apr 2024, 17:13 #
@EmilD: I'll immediately remember Missy and Merry Galel singing from Akaten (that's where they sang for a long time)
EmilD
EmilD
17 Apr 2024, 22:23 #
@NaruHinka: The rings of Akathen, exactly, how could I forget! This is almost the first music series in DC!
Many people love her, by the way, and I don't remember being scolded for her music, which is why they're freaking out now, I don't understand.
VBI
VBI
22 Apr 2024, 20:42 #
Interestingly, they came up with bioregeneration. It seems to me that this was done on purpose. IF things don't go well with the restart or they wind up so much that it will be easier to rewind everything. And at some point they will say: the restart is not a canon, but a canon where the 14th remained on earth and Tennant will be called again.
EmilD
EmilD
24 Apr 2024, 12:23 #
@VBI: no one will celebrate anything, sooner or later the 14th will simply disappear or merge with the 15th Doctor, many people also thought about the 13th Doctor, but no one canceled anything.
VBI
VBI
24 Apr 2024, 18:06 #
@EmilD:
1. I do not claim that this is a fact.
2 I just noticed a moment where it would be easy to cross out the restart if desired and decided to share my observation.
And thank you for choosing to insert your five kopecks. your opinion is very important to you.
EmilD
EmilD
24 Apr 2024, 19:33 #
@VBI: Please, no one has canceled anything in 60 years, why should anything be changed now?
VBI
VBI
24 Apr 2024, 20:36 #
@EmilD:
Man, are you bothering me?
Okay, how many times has the doctor bioregenerated in 60 years? and why did bioregeneration take place, and not the usual one?
andreyck
andreyck
24 Apr 2024, 20:56 #
@VBI: It's just a fucking fanatic, forget it. He is ready to justify any nonsense
EmilD
EmilD
24 Apr 2024, 21:49 #
@andreyck: if something doesn't cause me to hate, am I a stubborn fanatic? OK)
EmilD
EmilD
24 Apr 2024, 21:50 #
@VBI: Well, because the scriptwriter wanted to? And maybe they'll explain it in future episodes, or maybe it was the effect of a Toy? I do not know, but I hope to find out as the season progresses.

You wrote, I replied. The cause of the shaking? If you don't like it, don't read it, don't reply)
alavitka
alavitka
12 May 2024, 22:36 #
@VBI: I thought so too. It's a strange move, anyway. Although, perhaps, they just didn't want to merge Tennant forever. They say, if necessary, we'll pull it out of the closet, for a special occasion, for example.
VBI
VBI
24 Apr 2024, 18:00 #
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alavitka
alavitka
12 May 2024, 22:35 #
I do not know what was in the original, but in the dubbing of "enter the orbit of Britain" I just laughed out loud.
And then: "I just degenerated," That's for sure,"I'm just crying with laughter! Did they understand what they were saying?
Dance of the toymaker with pink petals "What did the author smoke? Give me two!" =))
The new dock is better than expected so far, but why
is Tennant still the best in his underpants?! For me.
alavitka
alavitka
12 May 2024, 22:40 #
@alavitka: And for a couple of moments at the beginning, it seemed that this was all subtle banter on the current current situation. "Everyone is right" - isn't this an exaggerated description of tolerance? Clown presidents are not a reality? Macron, Biden... In general, maybe they quite deliberately chose this word "degeneration" for the Doctor! =)) It's just that someone knows how to make money, but inside they're burning up over all this fuss, forgive my French.
KonstantinRomeow
KonstantinRomeow
PRO
13 May 2024, 00:12 #
@alavitka: It's not degeneration, but bigeneration.
alavitka
alavitka
13 May 2024, 00:45 #
@KonstantinRomeow: Damn, I don't know, I heard "de" a few times - I had fun!
alavitka
alavitka
13 May 2024, 00:46 #
@alavitka: And by the way, there's probably a new musical theme at the end. But to me in the beginning (old?) I liked it better too.
OrangeElephant
OrangeElephant
13 May 2024, 21:53 #
@alavitka: in underpants without pants - because the 14th was left in his pants (without panties)
alavitka
alavitka
15 May 2024, 03:04 #
@OrangeElephant: And without a shirt? Once she was on the second floor. I didn't notice. And I didn't make jokes about pants. Maybe they translated it badly. I'm too lazy to look for the original.
EmilD
EmilD
15 May 2024, 22:05 #
@alavitka: Tennant had two shirts, the outer one was given to Jokey, the inner one remained on Tennant.
alavitka
alavitka
16 May 2024, 22:43 #
@EmilD: Thanks for the clarifications!
Oliverell22
Oliverell22
24 May 2024, 02:36 #
The tenth is so legendary that the second time "I don't want to leave" would be too painful. Thanks for the Alonzi, thanks for Donna pulling harder.
I think he deserves a family, peace and Donna. The Doctor has struggled and lost in all incarnations. And as a fan of the Tenth Doctor, I remember how much he lost, and how much the subsequent "faces" lost. And it's all inside him.
Bi-generation is the best option for me. Yes, I read about all this above, and the logic is controversial, partially breaks almost the entire universe to hell, but I don't care.
David is the Tenth alive, there are two Tardis now, and I will accept the new Doctor just as we all accepted the previous ones. Even if it doesn't become something special.
Oliverell22
Oliverell22
24 May 2024, 02:38 #
I said 10 years ago that Neil Patrick Harris would be in the Doctor. I don't remember in what context. Even as one of the candidates for the role of Doctor, I think she offered.
I knew Neal would be in the Doctor. Maybe she even wrote it here somewhere. Adore.
kasinovich
kasinovich
27 May 2024, 03:15 #
@Oliverell22: I always hoped to see him in the role of a master
AllisonJB
AllisonJB
24 May 2024, 15:07 #
Neill Patrick Harris it's gorgeous
shurochka_a
shurochka_a
11 Jul 2024, 13:31 #
What a charismatic toy maker
I just enjoyed every second with him in the frame. 🤤
ksenkarions
ksenkarions
15 Aug 2024, 20:11 #
After watching this episode after the new season, I realized that this individual in the gurney identifies himself as disabled. 😂 I thought trannies, dark and LGBT is a cringe, it broke the whole bottom 😂
Ps: special releases are more interesting than the new season 😊
alivel
alivel
20 Sep 2025, 22:50 #
@ksenkarions: Are you a fool? 🤦‍♀️
треугляш
треугляш
29 Sep 2024, 19:50 #
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irinaaa_an
irinaaa_an
PRO
11 Oct 2024, 11:59 #
This puppet's laugh is amazingly creepy! and the whole series is amazing in its inherent madness. The scenery and atmosphere are just a buzz. When I heard the mention of Amy Pond, I almost squeaked with nostalgia <3 although the moment with the listing of the Doctor's companions and what happened to them is quite tough. The toymaker cuts the Doctor in both hearts at once.
The atmosphere of the Tennant episodes is always something special for me.
irinaaa_an
irinaaa_an
PRO
11 Oct 2024, 12:01 #
PlanePassenger
PlanePassenger
11 Oct 2024, 13:09 #
By the way, I didn't seem to see any comments about this, Neil Patrick Harris is still an extremely accurate hit in the role because Neil is a very good magician and illusionist, and even was the host of a show in Las Vegas. I've seen him in this role more than once on The Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson.
FolisterElysa
FolisterElysa
27 Oct 2024, 16:35 #
How Doctor Who Got Prettier under Russell T Davis
_berkeya
_berkeya
04 Nov 2024, 15:05 #
Okay, that was weird.😅
But does this now mean that the 14th will always be alive? That is, he can just appear in any random episode? I'm loving it. But it's still weird, yeah.
Now not only Rosa, but also Donna has her own personal doctor. Dr. Tennant likes to share himself, give me a piece on the next hand
Well, the 15th one has come to me so far.
rishkaalex
rishkaalex
14 Jan 2025, 02:31 #
Briefly about the Tennant specials: RTD is back!!! And with it the atmosphere of the old seasons!
Persuaded, I'm giving this show a second chance!
The special editions are amazing! Maybe not as good as the whole era of RTD and Moffat, but against the backdrop of the seasons of Chibnell, it's just paradise!
The regeneration has worked.... unusual. We now have two Doctors and two Tardises in parallel. At first it seemed strange, but then I remembered about Rosa with her version of the Doctor and Clara, who is traveling somewhere in her version of the Tardis... therefore, everything is in the spirit of the series.

P.S. Neil Patrick Harris would make a good Craftsman.
rishkaalex
rishkaalex
14 Jan 2025, 04:18 #
And the meeting between the Doctor and Mel turned out to be so sweet and sincere, and these warm hugs. In the character of the Doctor. That's what I expected from meeting Tegan and Ace on the 13th, not that she stood there, looked and left.
anna__vedi
anna__vedi
16 Jan 2025, 13:02 #
As a fan of the 10th, I rejoice! My Doctor was left as an ace in the hole.
PrincessZuko
PrincessZuko
17 Jan 2025, 20:22 #
I need a spin-off where the 14th Doctor meets Rose. 🥲
terrecuiteclaire
terrecuiteclaire
18 Jan 2025, 15:40 #
What's going on here??

There are no words, it's just... everything, of course, is so INTERESTING, but I like it! And two Doctors in the person of Tennant are, of course, generally…
I wonder, by the way, how the first copy of Doctor Tennant is doing with Rose. 🥹
llantana
llantana
PRO
08 Jun 2025, 11:52 #
A great series!
The twist at the end of the episode with the two doctors is interesting. Great!)
alivel
alivel
20 Sep 2025, 22:43 #
Oh, the role of the Puppeteer is literally for Neil, how organic he is, hocus-pocus, cards, the whole entourage, and how he "accepted the challenge", I love the references
gambitchc
gambitchc
26 Sep 2025, 01:40 #
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gambitchc
gambitchc
26 Sep 2025, 01:42 #
Anna849
Anna849
06 Nov 2025, 22:00 #
It's funny that Toymaker (a being from outside the universe) chose to speak with a fake German accent😄
incitement
incitement
09 Feb 00:12 #
God, what bingo, David and Neil!!! My heart can't take it.
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