s01 special-5 — Children in Need 2023

I found out it's not an episode, it's being shown at a DOCTOR WHO event.

@Sabi_Sabi: This is a mini episode, five minutes will go, called "Destination: Skaro"

And where will it be interesting to see it ? Can someone throw off the link please

@Sabi_Sabi: https://youtu.be/RfLtAdSgWPQ?si=1eDH2rwrID0EbFNm

@Sabi_Sabi: they have been coming out in support of the charity foundation of the same name since the previous relaunch in 2005

@Rompotte: Thank you, Kind man

@ordinarywhovian: strange, of course, but thanks for the answer

@blacki3: nothing strange. When the series began in 2005, the then season was also made the first, not season 27

@Takumikun: The classic Doctor Who was closed back in 1989. It is not surprising that in 2005, the sequel, shot by a completely different team, received the status of a new series. And then they were shooting-shooting, they got to season 14 and suddenly decided to reset - why all of a sudden? What then should the new series be called - Doctor Who 2.0? 3.0? With other series, would it not surprise you too? For example, the creators of Game of Thrones got to season 4 and were like, well, whatever, let's have the next season will not be 5, but 1 again, like a chip like that. With the same Dexter, which was written about here, everything is clear: after 10 years, a sequel was released, so another series was born - Dexter: New Blood. And then no more time passed between the seasons than usual, and even Russell T. Davis returned to work on the project, with whom everything began in 2005, and already a new countdown and a new series) It feels like they just want to disown the Jodie Whittaker era in this way

@blacki3: DC is such a series that you can start there with any Doctor or any showrunner period, many even believe that here, as in sitcoms, you can watch from any series. But in order to find out about this, you need to be interested in the series, and all sorts of newbies who want to watch, they think that you need to start with the first season and the number of seasons of as many as 13 pieces is very frightening, and therefore it was decided to restart the numbering and attract new viewers.
This is a common thing for such periodicals. So, for example, comics work, which once every couple of years, without zeroing out the history and characters, reset the numbering. It's the same here.

@blacki3: why compare the current DC with the classical era? It's not the 70s and 80s when viewers just turned on a new series on TV without thinking about how many seasons there were and will be. It's not even zero now. It's the dawn of streaming. Just like that, new viewers will not start a series that has 5 seasons, let alone 10 or more. And endlessly luring new viewers with soft restarts from 5, 10,11,14,20,35, etc. of the season will not work. It is much easier to start a new numbering.
No one disowns the era of Jody and Chibnell. There was talk of zeroing out before his seasons. Most fans were well aware that sooner or later this would happen.

@blacki3: the reason is most likely in the contract with the streaming service Disney+

Starting with three specials in honor of the 60th anniversary of the series and a Christmas special in 2023, the rights to show outside the UK were acquired by streaming Disney+. At the same time, the rights to show the first 13 seasons, 26 seasons of the classic Doctor Who, and three spin-offs ("The Adventures of Sarah Jane", "Torchwood" and "Class") seem to remain with some other company until the contract expires [in a year].
Since Disney+ is financially invested in the production of new episodes, and especially in their marketing, it is more profitable for them to call the new season the first, not the fourteenth, to attract a new audience. Because any new audience who wants to start watching Doctor Who on Disney+ will see the inscription "Season 14", firstly, they will be afraid that they need to watch 13 more seasons, secondly, they will not understand where to find them, since they are not (at least for now) on Disney+ itself.

I strongly doubt that this gesture was made to disown Jodie Whittaker, rather to make Jokey Gatwa look like something fresh, a new beginning. By the way, when Russell T. Davis left the showrunner post for the first time in 2010, and Steven Moffat took his place, the BBC management also had the idea to start numbering from the beginning, that is, the first season with Matt Smith was supposed to be "the first", and not wear number 5. I don't remember who then dissuaded me from this idea, because Moffat didn't seem to mind. Or maybe I'm confused and Moffat had the idea, and the BBC management was not against it?

Well, in any case, don't worry, nothing much will change for us, the audience.
MyShows probably divided the series in principle so that it would be more convenient to synchronize the database with TVMaze, well, or from where they are syncing now...

@KonstantinRomeow: In fact, it's not so important to me which season I'm watching - 14 or 1 again, I was just really a little puzzled by this decision. But you're right, for beginners, such a lure will look much nicer than "watch season 14, it's worth it." According to the same principle, I never got to watch SG-1, because I showed some interest in the series only when 9 seasons had already been filmed. I'm still putting it off for later. The number 14 sounds even more impressive, and commerce is always in the first place, so yes, from this point of view it is quite understandable

@bagem: yeah, there have never been blacks, gays and a bit of Daleks in DC before, especially in the first season)

@bagem: for "normal people" there is a "stopped watching"button

@blacki3: this is in order not to scare off the new youth audience with a figure of more than 10 seasons that did not watch the doctor, but came because of a joke on the main role
Do you often start watching TV shows because your favorite or familiar actor starts appearing in season 11+?)

@kiprian_zhurov: yes, I started watching so much for the sake of the episodes that turned out to be in the last season
I looked at it completely
And American viewers are sissy as usual (more precisely, they are made like this by streaming like Disney)
Trushy European fans are watching everything😁

My viewing of the Doctor began when the eighth season was already in full swing, but this series has a peculiarity in that there are several "entry points" – seasons 1, 5, 8 and 11 (but the latter is a hardcore viewing start mode), and a new such point could be season 14

And the haste so without season 4 at all, you can't understand one hundred percent, no matter how many flashbacks they throw

@ordinarywhovian: where does this information come from?

@HopelessWanderer: Russell T. Davis (showrunner, that is, the main scriptwriter of the series from seasons 1 to 4 and now) announced that the new season will be numbered first in a recent interview with Doctor Who Magazine.
In parallel, ALL the materials on Doctor Who (except for the lost episodes and the very first series of 1963) were posted in the BritBox kit on the iPlayer (this is the streaming service of the BBC channel) and the revived series was designated as "Doctor Who 2005-2022", and not "Doctor Who 2005 - ..."

@Michae_Kae: well, I started with new school, although there were those who broke up and said that they watched it from the very beginning)
And your eighth season is actually not the eighth

@KonstantinRomeow: And what will be the Doctor's numbering?

@driveshaft: in three special episodes, The Fourteenth (Tennant), in the season itself, the fifteenth (Gatva).

@driveshaft: it has been known about the numbering for a long time, and @Nog wrote correctly - in three anniversary episodes there will be a Fourteenth Doctor performed by David Tennant, starting with the Christmas episode of 2023 and throughout at least the first and second seasons and the Christmas episode of 2024 there will be a Fifteenth Doctor performed by Jokey Gatva. (And the filming of the second season is already underway, much in advance)

But the numbering of the Doctor is not so important - when I started watching the series, I was sure that Christopher Eccleston was the first, and David Tennant was the second, and only then I found out that they were actually the Ninth and Tenth.
There are regenerations without a number - the former faces of the Doctor from the episodes "Timeless Children", "Morbius Brain" and "Judoon Fugitive", there is a Military Doctor, there is a Metacrisis Doctor and a Doctor-Donna.
At the same time, no one except the audience (for convenience) calls Eccleston the Ninth, Tennant the Tenth, Capaldi the Twelfth and Whittaker the Thirteenth. Of course, in the episodes there are references to this and Easter eggs - the name "The Eleventh Hour", room No. 11 in the hotel of fears in the episode "Complex of God", room 12 with a wall of Asbestos in the castle inside the confessional disk in the episode "Sent from heaven". But all the incarnations of the Doctor in the series are just the Doctor, without a number.
If my memory serves me correctly, the numbering in the series itself surfaced aloud only once during "The Time of the Doctor", when Clara told [Smith] that he was the Eleventh, and he explained to her that due to the Military and Metacrisis, he had no more free regenerations left. And now, when even the Doctor himself does not know how many more times he will be able to regenerate, the numbering figure is unlikely to pop up. New viewers who started watching the series on Disney + will probably consider David Tennant the first Doctor and Joke Gatwa the second, or even Joke Gatwa the first if they start not with special episodes but from the first season.

@KonstantinRomeow: That's not why I asked, but because I was wondering if RTD would cross out a stupid arch about a child out of time or not. Or they'll just forget about it, but they'll keep some of the elements introduced during the thirteenth doctor's appointment. Because Dr. Ruth is gorgeous, but unnamed children are not necessary at all. It would probably be easier to write it all off to an alternative reality and not clean it up, but leave the old numbering.

@driveshaft: He won't cross anything out, he said it officially.

@driveshaft: Has anything ever been crossed out in the Doctor? They retconned a lot, but it doesn't seem like their style to cross it out.

@blacki3: not in the subject, but I strongly advise you to watch SG-1, it's the best, it looks in one go, and during this time all the characters become native and in general I highly recommend

@Ta4toTania: thanks) we'll have to get there anyway

@PlanePassenger: well, once for sure, it's about the Doctor's mother, who is like a person, as they said in the movie about the Eighth Doctor)

@kiprian_zhurov: yes, I watched Desperate Housewives completely because of one or two episodes with Barrowman %)

@id5098067: AHAHA))

@Adrasteya: I don't like this newnewschool and disneyschool...when the 2005 TV series was released, the old series (which was just Doctor Who) was given the legacy name "Classic", and the new one became a new school, since this concept (if anything is used not only in DC) always means something new and relevant. And by analogy with 2005, now the new DC should be a new school, and the past should be given its legacy name. I personally drown for "Modern" because it reflects that this is a modern DC, but I also saw a great version of "Ribs" or "Revive", which reflect that it was a revival of the series after closing in 1989.

@cherik-cherik: Oh my God, let's go without her.
And so it is already clear what will happen.
But I would like to hope

@TimelordRu: поплачьте

@Rompotte: By the way, season 7 of new school was divided into two parts. so, New New school will end in the middle of season 7, and new New New school will begin! however, it will last 3.25 seasons, whatever that means. Fortunately, this also means that Doctor Who will never end — the series will just become infinitely small. but if you round it up to integers, it's almost 52 seasons (but never exactly 52)

@Rompotte: well, if Disney+ was mentioned here, then what kind of cuts can there be, either an increase or closure.

@cherik-cherik: Well, in general, the series don't have to decrease. On the contrary, according to the data available to us, with each restart, the duration of the series increases by about 2 times. But the number of episodes per season clearly shows a downward trend. If we define a "season" as a certain amount of content, the intervals in the release of which are significantly less than the intervals between seasons, and a "series" as a certain amount of content shown continuously (excluding advertising), then we can assume that if all the above conditions are maintained, at some point it will take more to show one episode one season. In this case, due to the finite number of seasons, the last episode will be endless and, by definition, uninterrupted. The result is unlimited Doctor Who forever!!!

@Rompotte: Based on this logic, series and seasons can only be described by non-negative integers. in this case, we can use rounding to the nearest integer to determine the number of seasons in the restart. Thus, we get that New New New New school will be the last, because it will have 0.8125 seasons ≈ 1 season. in the sixth restart (New New New New New New School), the number of seasons will be 0.40625, which is rounded to zero

@cherik-cherik: Hmm, you can probably come up with more precise definitions, but in my comment I meant that the series can (and will) be restarted during the season (and subsequently the series)

@KonstantinRomeow: I usually search manually, but I didn't realize that you need a professional account to do this.

@Zyz: ...the big-ass showrunner.

@Ziza: are you saying that the arch that Jody got would immediately sparkle with awesome colors if a man was playing there?

@PlanePassenger: такое конечно

@PlanePassenger: I think we won't get the same emotions anymore

@vmerkalin99: That's what they say every time, starting with the Second Doctor

@PlanePassenger: the doctor did not like the woman at all, the rest, except for the last one, was zbs, the last one did not understand yet

@vmerkalin99: и что, все первые 8 Докторов тоже понравились до единого?)

@EmilD: well rather yes

@EmilD: even Exactly yes, not more likely