s01e11 — A Knight Who Defends an Empty Throne

@Kodval: Bey Summoners ' first case, yeah

@JTBuzya: and immediately the question is, is it the only one

@vk728323: There was also such a thought, because the knight protects the empty throne, but the idea failed at the moment when the main character was literally thrown towards the throne. That would be a piano in the bushes with a brass band!

@JlieNe: I understand that. Any anime is a horror manga or a ranobe. but I really don't understand why dilute a dynamic and intense series with these inserts with a helicopter and an office? Are they affecting something right now? are they important at the moment? I don't think so. but it would be great to show a complete series with a full quest. No, of course, I think that there will most likely be another series completely about the quest, but if in the next series the quest is solved in 3-4 minutes, then it will be a facepalm

@aoyagi_rena: does it happen otherwise?

@ron1: Of course

@vk728323: so he also put on armor from the corridor knights - and there is a good plus with the tolerance of blows (but the armor is so-so...). He even said out loud that if not for the armor, he would have already died.

So I have a claim not to willpower, but it seems to me that it is already a giga moveton to cram this patient topic into senen, that no matter how sucker you are, endure, fight and everything will work out.And so it seemed to me that in soleveloping they moved away from this, added this mechanic with an increase in level and pumping, so that gg, like in all other average senen, would not take out on the "character" of opponents.But here, after 11 episodes, this mechanics has not been developed and everything again rests on a patient "willpower", although on all fronts gg had to lose, according to the laws of mmorpg he had to lose…But he wins, over and over again on this patient "willpower."Hence the question, what's the point of all this pumping, if you need to stupidly not give up and everything will work out - it doesn't work that way.I hoped that soleveloping would offer something new in the development of the genre, but it only repeats the not particularly good old one, so the enthusiastic reviews of people are not clear to me personally.This is literally all the same thing that we see in every average senator every year

@mandrygin95: Wait, the point is just to not lose this feeling as you gain strength, skills and level up. " go out on strong-willed.". Don't relax. It is not always possible to win on technique and skills. We must continue to gnaw the earth and tear the veins.

After all, without leveling, goblins were orange to him, and dogs (or whoever they are) were red. And now, as mobs, he knocks down knights who duplicate his previous victories in skills - impenetrable armor, stealth, dexterity.

At first he pumped only strength, then he realized how important speed, agility and intuition are. Now I have caught up that intelligence will not be superfluous either, that everything must be developed in order to survive.

But any development without the desire to fight to the end does not make sense. Often the force discourages, leads to the fact that, resting on the floor, you give up. And in "solo" you are shown over and over again that the ceiling is getting higher and stronger every time, but you can't stop beating against it with the same tenacity and desperation as at the very beginning.

There are opponents who cannot be defeated, according to the laws of the game genre, you can't jump over your head, no matter how hard you try.And this is the norm, you can't always export everything at the expense of perseverance.The opponent in this series was invincible for gg and the whole fight was shown to us, and then oh, I don't give up.What's the point of showing the severity of the fight if gg won just like that, by accident, where he shouldn't have won.I repeat - it doesn't work that way, and it can't work all the time, but another piano is stronger than any rules

@mandrygin95: He was not invincible. He was in the red zone. The level of GG, from the point of view of the system, was sufficient to complete this quest.

And it doesn't seem to me that he won by accident. In the middle of the battle, he was already able to hit the knight's neck and there was even some damage, so repeated strikes in the same area are quite justified.

But what can't always be taken out at the expense of perseverance, I agree, there's not even anything to argue about. But you just can't survive without perseverance anyway.

At the time of the battle with the knight, GG has no other way to survive but to win. And what's the point of the piano that he tried and tried and tried anyway? Should I have let myself be stabbed with a sword? Why, if you can try to intercept the blow? Even knowing that you're about to be killed, why not at least try not to look like a fish on a chopping board? Even a carp jumps in the oven, damn it, if it was badly killed before baking.

By the way, GG quite understands when he doesn't take out " and is quite ready to use the teleportation stone as soon as it gets too hard. Maybe that's why there is no evacuation in this dungeon during the first two stages of the interview? For a person to continue to show the same will to live as when he was weak?

Luck comes first, and then perseverance.

And at the very end of the manhwa (volume 3-187), a little bit is told about this battle. But there are spoilers, of course, for those who haven't read it.

@mandrygin95: You don't need to talk about the laws of the game genre. Take DS for example. There, the first boss is not removable for a beginner. And they make it clear to us that it cannot be taken out without pumping and equipment. However, there are some enthusiasts who "at the expense of perseverance" endure it naked. It's the same here: GG may be lower in level than Igris, but he defeated him because he didn't give up until the very end. That's the point, after all.

>>> another piano is stronger than any rules.<<<

The piano would have been if he had defeated it "by accident", or someone had saved him. And here he did everything himself.

And did he not accidentally defeat him, gg himself says that he was lucky.You don't need to fill in about DS, there absolutely all opponents are defeated by the starting gear and the development in general requires something else from you, for victories you need trai and knowledge of timings and animos of bosses.The fact that this causes difficulties for beginners is the tenth thing.I was talking about the mmorpg system, which was licked for soleveloping, in any mmo you have gates above which you cannot jump without hundreds of hours of grinding gear / art/ bijou / expa / lvl and these rules are indestructible and one perseverance is not enough there.Here they show us that push how you are pumped, don't give up and everything will work out

@mandrygin95: What kind of willpower are we talking about? GG, who initially did not take out in raids, continued to walk in them, without raising money at the same time. It's not "willpower", it's the absence of a brain.

I agree, he should not have defeated Igris, in manhwa he punched stupidly in the eye at all - and that's it, there was no finishing. Igris is faster, stronger, more experienced, the armor is impenetrable, he could not miss this blow, an unambiguous piano.

@12werre31234: Well, that's what I'm afraid of, that it's just to slide into endless conquests and last chance.Although initially it seemed that soleveloping would be able to avoid this cliche, but apparently alas

@mandrygin95: Right now, about a quarter of the manga has been shown, as far as I remember, there will be only a couple more such moments, but most of the time he will simply destroy with his might. Here, in fact, the work is not about rocking and that's all, but about how, having received such power, to remain a human being without putting yourself in the role of god..

And what are the disadvantages here?
How about for **** and

@Prun_ik: children agryatsya, get used to it

I'm used to it, but sometimes I get used to it..

Thank you