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Presumed Innocent — s01e05 — Pregame

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Duration: 41 min.
Released: 03.07.202403.07.2024 15:00
Watched by: 2 29530.6%
1 season
s01e05
s01e01 - Bases Loaded
s01e02 - People vs. Rozat Sabich
s01e03 - Discovery
s01e04 - The Burden
s01e05 - Pregame
s01e06 - The Elements
s01e07 - The Witness
Release date
24 July

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br1ella
br1ella
PRO
03 Jul 12:54 # Show original
Sarsgaard is good, great opening speech. I wonder if we will see a new version of the killer, it is still unclear.
the episode aired 03.07.2024
Кукабара
Кукабара
03 Jul 15:05 # Show original
Tommy Molto himself has already been hinted at in this episode.
At first, Carolyn's son says that she was afraid of someone and avoided them at work.
And then they directly show us that Caroline did not want to work with him and avoided him.
Annie10792
Annie10792
03 Jul 15:38 # Show original
In my opinion, the killer is Tommy himself)) But even if he doesn't, I hope he gets fried somehow, because he's a very annoying type. Clearly with complexes and the deepest traumas, some kind of personality disorder in the man, and it shows through in him "rate me, finally, praise me, everyone owes me their love, applause and everything-everything-everything!!!"

And Rusty, of course, is a self-centered asshole, but... he is played by Jake, so I do not know what he has to do to start pissing me off))
Ouks
Ouks
03 Jul 16:53 # Show original
Normally, Sarsgaard got into his brother-in-law.
Qtilla
Qtilla
03 Jul 17:23 # Show original
There is no need for a line with my wife, purely to score airtime. Otherwise, it is very interesting and nothing is still clear.
Dalloway
Dalloway
03 Jul 19:57 # Show original
I'll be suspicious of Lorraine, Raymond's wife. :)
kladdenbuch
kladdenbuch
03 Jul 20:24 # Show original
What's the fun of a jury trial? if a person is guilty and there is evidence, then what is this jury trial for? It is not clear what a jury trial is for in criminal cases. Everything is clear there: killed means guilty. Otherwise, I perceive it as if the prosecutor is ready to put anyone away under any circumstances, regardless of whether the defendant is guilty or not. I think a jury trial is needed only for applied crimes such as corruption, political or war crimes, etc.
NatashCHa
NatashCHa
03 Jul 21:30 # Show original
@kladdenbuch: The jury is assembled from people who have nothing to do with the defendant or the victim, so that the verdict and punishment are objective, and not overstated or, conversely, too lenient.

It seems that jurors cannot have a legal education and be in law enforcement agencies. But this is in Russia
albinka_
albinka_
Yesterday, 21:45 # Show original
@kladdenbuch: "everything is clear, killed means guilty." Of course, if he killed, then he is guilty, but the fact that a particular person killed must still be proved, the task of the prosecutor is just to convince people of this, because often the evidence can be indirect, and without the defendant admitting guilt, no one can be 100% sure that it is him (yes, even if there is Admittedly, it's not a fact that everything is like that).
It is rare when there is a direct recording that shows someone killing someone, which means that guilt has been proven for sure.

Well, as it were, a preventive measure is also important, 8 years is not the same as life.

Smartcookie
Smartcookie
03 Jul 22:01 # Show original
I can't help myself, I see in the prosecutor only June's useless husband from the Handmaid's Tale.
UliaChayka
UliaChayka
03 Jul 23:37 #
@Smartcookie: ахахах, и я🤷🏻‍♀️
КрошкаЕнот
КрошкаЕнот
04 Jul 21:14 # Show original
Precisely!!!! That's how I know him!!
DariaBlashchuk
DariaBlashchuk
04 Jul 22:45 # Show original
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 the best comment, in this series he is just as useless
katrinasbor
katrinasbor
05 Jul 10:11 # Show original
He got fat , of course , on Canadian cabbage soup 😂
mixer1701
mixer1701
PRO
05 Jul 16:23 # Show original
@Smartcookie: By the way, yes. The actor is handsome, but he has all the roles - a carpet on the wall.
UliaChayka
UliaChayka
03 Jul 23:38 # Show original
Rusty's defender had a terrible dream🫢
I almost believed it. It seems to me that Tommy's killer, the emphasis was placed on him while looking at the photo, he may be the colleague whom Caroline avoided🙈
jkleym
jkleym
PRO
04 Jul 00:37 # Show original
it must rain heavily before an important trial, everyone must have black umbrellas, everything is gloomy and gray and, of course, in slowmoor. There is no other way.
Mechtaev
Mechtaev
04 Jul 12:04 # Show original
Did everyone appreciate Sarsgaard's mention of pharmaceutical companies and their heads who get away with everything? SUCH AN EASTER EGG
DiKEY999
DiKEY999
04 Jul 15:06 # Show original
Easter egg for what?
sviraman
sviraman
PRO
05 Jul 17:01 #
@DiKEY999: в сериале Dopesick персонаж Сарсгарда как раз занимался разоблачением фармацевтической кампании
Mechtaev
Mechtaev
04 Jul 12:08 # Show original
Remind me, was Polymus bandaged first and then killed?
Destiny_Ocean
Destiny_Ocean
04 Jul 20:43 # Show original
I suspect Tommy too...
DeadDanny
DeadDanny
04 Jul 20:46 # Show original
5 episodes have already passed, and the trial has just begun. We've been deadlocked with this guy for so long. How they pull. I don't really care who the main character's wife is meeting with or what she's thinking about at the therapist's. At first I thought it would be an interesting series, but it turned out that the authors prefer to waste our time.
Anlyness
Anlyness
10 Jul 11:08 # Show original
@DeadDanny: so it's better for you not to watch syarils, but short films, they will tell the whole story in 10 minutes))
s0918
s0918
PRO
06 Jul 09:27 # Show original
It's a pretty empty episode, we didn't learn anything new, we didn't get anywhere, well, at least the trial started. Perhaps it was worth doing a little less episodes to increase the dynamics
blacki3
blacki3
06 Jul 13:26 # Show original
Somehow, Tommy's guilt is very much attracted to the forehead. I'm only in favor of him being guilty, an unpleasant type, but if so, I would like a more veiled approach nevertheless
maryblst
maryblst
06 Jul 15:40 # Show original
Moments with my wife seem to be for a reason.
__Алиса__
__Алиса__
06 Jul 17:54 # Show original
Tommy is heavily hinted at in this episode 🤔
Enchantresss
Enchantresss
PRO
07 Jul 21:47 # Show original
Personally, Tommy and I are suspicious, whom Caroline avoided and was afraid of, and at the same time I suspect Rusty's wife, who has strange blackouts 🤔

In general, everyone there is suspicious that I will soon begin to suspect the character of Lily Rabe of murder 🫣
Marabesta
Marabesta
07 Jul 22:57 # Show original
I don't think it's worth writing off Rusty's son, there may well be his dna under her nails, she and her father share it. He didn't just throw away so much
Enchantresss
Enchantresss
PRO
08 Jul 00:19 # Show original
@Marabesta: or maybe it was a daughter at all, she was just a daddy's daddy's girl, she could have done such a thing out of jealousy
Special_Death
Special_Death
12 Jul 11:56 # Show original
@Enchantresss: consider if the whole family, with the exception of Rusty, is involved in the murder and covering up the tracks
Liza
Liza
08 Jul 15:34 # Show original
We are being led along two paths by whom to suspect - Tommy Molto or his Son (+ wife), since a lot of attention is paid to his bike and his wife gags her eyes in surprise and takes long pauses to answer questions, as if she is coming up with something to say, as if they are in cahoots with her son
s0918
s0918
PRO
08 Jul 15:40 # Show original
@Liza: well, there is also a criminal in prison and his possible accomplice + a partner / colleague who may not just be for him, but also has some feelings
s0918
s0918
PRO
08 Jul 22:26 # Show original
Well, by the way, given how the victim was connected, I think the family disappears, as a result either one of the colleagues, or the sitting killer and his possible accomplice. Firstly, the family does not theoretically know about this method of binding, secondly, the murder by someone from the family would be emotional, it seems to me, therefore, it would not be so clever with binding, they would simply find it with a knife in the heart or with dozens of knives
Liza
Liza
10 Jul 00:17 # Show original
@s0918: if the main character has a habit of taking cases home (and judging by the fact that we saw his wife looking at photos from the crime scene at their house), then it is quite possible that from that case he carried files home and someone could see
s0918
s0918
PRO
10 Jul 05:26 # Show original
@Liza: this probability cannot be denied, but it is still less than colleagues and the criminal
Anlyness
Anlyness
10 Jul 11:17 # Show original
It's too corny, if Tommy is to blame, he is deliberately exposed as a nasty type initially, so that everyone would like to think that he is a murderer. But sometimes people are just nasty assholes, and that doesn't mean they're maniacs.😄 But, in my opinion, it would be much more logical and interesting if the forgiving mother of the preservation of the Bee family had killed. She also has a motive. She forgave him the first time, but the resentment did not go away, and then she found out that her husband continued to cheat and snapped. I do not believe in such self-sacrifice and the desire to save the family, even after she found out that she was being cheated on again, that her lover was pregnant, she was deprived of her job, deprived of peace of mind, and she still goes to the courts
Altay_Virgin
Altay_Virgin
11 Jul 06:10 # Show original
@Anlyness: Also for the fact that my wife was to blame) including because I do not like the actress terribly, everything about her annoys, even to the mimics(
albinka_
albinka_
Yesterday, 21:50 # Show original
Every time sessions with a therapist were shown, she caused rejection (despite the fact that she really likes the actress) - she pushes her opinion too much and is very obsessive in various personal assumptions. She communicates with the heroine more like an old friend, and in general is not at all delicate, for a professional psychologist. I don't understand why this character was made like this, whether it has any purpose and whether it will develop by the end, it wasn't just added for the background.
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