s01e02 — The Devil's Chord

@Zeromancer: you will show me a very interesting series made in the Capaldi era, then I may be ready to discuss it with you.

And leave your "signed the lack of taste" to yourself. I love Moffat, of course, but the fandom forgives him a lot in the era of 12 with Clara, and turns a blind eye to a lot.

@NebSehemvi: well, in general, you can blurt it out, but "Heaven Sent" is really the best (or second after "Blink") episode of the entire series, honestly and objectively.

I'm not exactly a wild Capaldi fan myself, I love the epochs of Eccleston, Smith, Capaldi and Whittaker about the same, and most likely I'll put the era of Jokey Gatva on the same level with them too. The same season 8, due to the constant presence of Danny Pink, I consider the worst season in new school (yes, even taking into account the existence of the disappointing season 11). But on the other hand, season 10 with gorgeous Bill Potts and cool Nardole, on the contrary, became the best for me, overtaking season 3 (the Tenth and Martha Jones), which for many years before that was my favorite.

If you asked me to find in the Capaldi era an episode as interesting as one of the next three after that ("Boom", "73 Yards" or "Dot and Bubble") and at the same time put a ban on "Sent from Heaven" - then I probably wouldn't have so many options, perhaps only three are "World Enough and Time / Doctor Falls", "Last Christmas" and "Mummy on the Orient Express". It's just that Steven Moffat and Russell T. Davis clearly put more love and soul into the next three episodes.

But if you are asking to find an episode in the Capaldi era that is only as interesting as a rather mediocre "Devil's Chord", then it is not difficult at all. "Robot from Sherwood", and "Listen", and "Robbery in Time", and "Plane", and "Under the Lake / Before the Flood", and a two-part series about Zygons, and "Husbands of River Song", and "The Return of Dr. Mysterio", and "Pilot", and "Smile", and "Thin Ice", and "Oxygen", and "Twice in Time".

Yes, even in the era of the Thirteenth, I will be able to dig up several episodes at the level of the "Devil's Chord", if anything - "Rose", "It Takes You away", "Resolution", two parts of "Spyfall", "Revolution of the Daleks" and "Eve of the Daleks"

@KonstantinRomeow: I also love the season with Bill Potts in the 12th era.

I'm not saying that this RTD season is the best. There are also average episodes, and there are just good ones. For me, the chord just stands out a lot against the background of the whole new school - yes, Blink is definitely a great series, and the Chord is clearly not better than it.

My main problem with Heaven Sent (unfortunately) That I don't believe. I didn't get into Clara in any way, she even made me terribly angry at some moments. And that's why I can't empathize with the Doctor and accept all the sadness of the series and get into it. Yes, Capaldi plays great, but for me the series is crumbling, because the dynamics between the 12th Doctor and Clara were strange and she is frankly not the best person.

One fandom person who loves the series very much tried to explain to me that Clara is not important here, and it is important that the Doctor feels - I still disagree. How is it not important if the plot is built around it?

"The Robot from Sherwood will do ", and "Listen", and "Robbery in Time", and "Plane", and "Under the Lake / Before the Flood", and a two-part series about Zygons, and "Husbands of River Song", and "The Return of Dr. Mysterio", and "Pilot", and "Smile", and "Thin Ice", and "Oxygen", and "Twice in Time"."

It won't do, because I won't remember anything so visually interesting/plot interesting that at least one of the episodes directly stands out from the entire series.

Because there was no such thing in DC - games with sound and with the visual of the series, and even the Toyboy fades against the background of the Maestro - well, yes, a trapdoor in the floor, doors out of nowhere - but somehow it's not very interesting. There is something so catchy about the Chord... Synesthesia, perhaps? The ability to literally see the music. That is, there is really a game between sound and visual, so it is very interesting to see this.

Don't get me wrong, among the series you have listed there are those that I also highly appreciate, but for something else. But still, there is something fundamentally different here.

@KonstantinRomeow: Oh. The Resolution and the Revolution of the Daleks are the most boring series about the Daleks. Even in the classics, you can dig up something more interesting about them. The last time they had an interesting meeting was with Moffat, a puppet of the Daleks in the same Isolation Ward.

The Eve of the Daleks is great, but not because of them, but because of the loop. If you change the Daleks to Cybermen, nothing will change.
It takes you away - an unscrupulous carbon copy from Stanislav Lem's Solaris.
Spyfall is great, but there's nothing in it to say "wow".
The Rose is just a historical series. We have chosen good locations for filming.

13 has great series, but still falls short. If her series is rearranged to other seasons, to other Doctors, it will just be normal (at best). Unfortunately, the screenwriter from Chibnell is not so good.

@Gloomy_Rave: Or vice versa, a stroke of genius, the truth is on the surface)

@Nog: I think it meant that even as a reptilian, she remained Ruby and met the Doctor.

@EveAgreste: он самый)

That would explain why the Doctor's screwdriver is a different color.

@Gloomy_Rave: Greetings from the future.

In short, in the first era of Russell T. Davis, he had a cool trick - if the TARDIS moved to the future, the time funnel was red, if to the past, it was blue. Now, in the new era of Russell T. Davis, the same thing seems to be happening, but with the sonic screwdriver of the Fifteenth Doctor - it is almost always silver-gold with elements of blue, but in "Devil's Chord", "The Dodger" and the trailer for the Christmas special "Joy to the World" it has elements of red. Coincidentally, these are the only three episodes with trips to the past.

@KonstantinRomeow: It is very interesting, because it is also directly related to physics and phenomena such as red and blue displacement. And the red cosmological shift just speaks about the most distant and oldest objects, i.e. from the most distant past.

@KonstantinRomeow: there was also the thought that this essence of death might turn out to be, based on the title of the finale, and she was certainly waiting for it)
In general, let's see, in any case, for now, I really like what RTD does, I hope it won't let me down at a distance

@KonstantinRomeow: By the way, it turns out that in the classics there was already a Queen of Time, aka the sister of the toymaker, aka the ancient essence, aka Hecuba. So, season 13 is not particularly a hindrance.

But for me, everything is so simple - the Maestro has said many times that a genius is needed, and the Doctor is not a musical genius. And Paul and John are geniuses, you don't need to get to know them, everyone is already familiar with them :) After all, Paul said that he dreams of music and chords, music was and is inside him, so he decided to add a note.

@viziterka: In any case, this devalues what the Beatles did - they did not choose to play the melody despite the monster, they did not choose the music despite the danger - they just passed by and added a note. Yes, and, apparently, not because they are burning with music from the inside and are ready to sacrifice a lot in order to do what they love, but simply because they were born geniuses and it came out by itself.#34;?

Any creative genius is not only about innate abilities, but also about a passion for this business and great efforts, a willingness to hone a skill to the ideal, a willingness to give this time to the detriment of other activities in life. And here is a cast of real amazing musicians who devoted their lives to this, superimposed on gray copies from this musical world, and they want the viewer to see in them the real Paul and John, and not the guys who have not done anything for music in the world set by the series yet.
Well, it's hard not to pay attention to the fact that the laws of this world are quite vague and not thought out, in terms of how music works and its absence and when exactly the Maestro comes for people.

@alavitka: and in the end it turns out that the Ponds' granddaughter)))

Yes, that's also true. Then it's all the more interesting who it is.

Yes, it would be unexpected with Susan, but I think there's someone more serious there.

@anrier: according to rumors, not the entire season, but specifically the episode "Devil's Chord" was supposed to be not the second in a row, but to go later in the season, but Disney representatives liked it very much and it was moved to the place of the second episode on the premiere day of the season, having slightly finished and rewrote the introduction. This is indirectly hinted at by Ruby's words to the Doctor "You never run" (how does she know that now, she and the Doctor had only two adventures, and during the second one she ran away from the Boogeyman), and also the fact that the Doctor's sonic screwdriver inserted into the device at the recording studio is for some reason painted pink- orange-red.
However, we don't know yet, maybe the new sonic screwdriver just changes color like the new interior of the TARDIS, and Ruby had off-screen adventures with the Doctor between "Space Kids" and "Devil's Chord", which will then be described in audio plays, comics and books. However, if the sonic screwdriver is repainted later in the season, we will find out after which episode the "Devil's Chord" was originally supposed to be released

@KonstantinRomeow: don't make it up, officially there was no such information anywhere, and what does Disney have to do with it?

@EmilD: and where is the word "officially" in my comment? I literally started my comment with the words "rumor has it."
If anything, no, I didn't come up with it myself. I read it in the comments on Reddit under the posts discussing the episode and on YouTube under the video with reactions and analysis of this episode.

About "what does Disney have to do with it?" - I know what Disney has to do with it, you know what Disney has to do with it, everyone knows what Disney has to do with it, but okay - if you pretend not to understand anything, I'll sign it:
Disney (specifically the streaming service Disney+) is currently engaged in partial financing of production, international distribution and advertising (advertising?) the series "Doctor Who". And although creative control seems to still be in the hands of the BBC, Bad Wolf and specifically Russell T. Davis, Disney representatives are RUMORED to still be able to influence the content of episodes. So, for example, ACCORDING to RUMORS, in the "Church on Ruby Road", the scene of the Doctor's conversation with a policeman after the fall of the giant snowman's head was filmed and mounted precisely at the request of the Disney guys, because they wanted the Doctor to have more screen time and the opportunity to express himself and his character traits earlier

@KonstantinRomeow:
Watch the program "Doctor Who Unleashed", which talks about the creation and filming of new episodes, where they clearly say during filming that the series is the second one. So the theory is already untenable. Which does not negate the fact of strangeness, yes, I agree. Whether it was intentional or a blunder, we may find out, or maybe not.

You don't have to talk about Disney, I know, but as you wrote, creative control over RTD and the BBC. Moreover, the BBC makes even more edits and RTD listens to them, unlike Disney, of course. This is where the rumors begin that RTD and Disney don't have a very good relationship. Rather, Disney representatives are always offering him edits and he sends them in three letters. Again, rumors. You just wrote that Disney was asked to move the series, well, it's just real as a made-up fact of some kind.

About the scene from the Church. There are no rumors here. In the video comments to the original, RTD himself said that there was a test viewing of the series, which was conducted by Disney and the audience complained that the Doctor appeared too late, it seems at 15-20 minutes and there was an offer to fix this and that the Doctor appeared a little earlier. RTD then said that yes, it was a logical remark and came up with this scene, specifically the scene was not invented by Disney, but by RTD himself, while he said that a similar scene was in the original script.

@KonstantinRomeow: как я уже только что отметил выше, причина другой окраски звуковой отвёртки не в этом, а в том что эпизод происходит в прошлом. Так что фанатская теория о том что "Дьявольский аккорд" был перенесён на место второго эпизода в сезоне себя частично не оправдала хотя бы на основании этого аргумента. Я умею признавать если был неправ, так что и тут специально зашёл в комментарии отметить свою ошибку

@KonstantinRomeow: 🤡

@KonstantinRomeow: ""Carol of the Bells" is a popular Christmas carol, which is based on the Ukrainian New Year's song "Shchedryk." The music for the carol comes from the song written by the Ukrainian composer Mykola Leontovych in 1914; the English-language lyrics were written in 1936 by Peter Wilhousky."

і так, руzzzкій патріотик, можеш не старатися і далі відповідати мені, не хочу нічого мати спільного, навіть подальший чат у комах, з такими особами?? як ти
іди далі слухай шамана, адже, на жаль, осягнути геніальність "хохловского" Щедрика тобі ніколи не буде дано(((

@-Damons__blood-: "Based" is not the same as "is the same". For example, the cartoon "The Lion King" is based on Shakespeare's "Hamlet", but this does not mean that "The Lion King" and "Hamlet" are the same thing. In Doctor Who, "Carol of the Bells" is playing instead of "Shchedryk". And I know the genius of "Song of Bells" very well. I like this song, unlike most of the works of shamanic singers for example (I don't know why you brought shamanic singers in). However, I don't understand the second part of your comment at all-there is something in the Nazi language. It seems that you tried to blame me with patriotism (but I don't see anything wrong), and you also distorted the name of my motherland.

@KonstantinRomeow: Finally stop trying to get to people who write in another language. God, how cool you showed them, Norwegian and Chinese

Recover

@KonstantinRomeow: from the fact that Shchedryk is adapted and translated (by the way, the author of the text in English is also Ukrainian), this melody still has one composer, the one who created it, and this is Leontovich. But since he died more than 100 years ago, a very long time ago, this song is in the catalogues of "Public Domain", that is, a national treasure that allows you to create its covers only by specifying the name of the song. Because you don't need to pay for the author's license, and the composer is listed in the catalogues. Just like that, for example, with the song "Happy Birthday to you". You can make covers in any style, but the melody has an author.
But as for the words Carol of the Bells, they still have a car license, and you need to indicate the name of Peter Vilkhovsky, who wrote the English version of the words to "Shchedryk"in 1936. That is why movies and TV shows often use only a melody without words to avoid legal problems.
You won't find a single example where any of the musicians who adapt this melody in a different style (rock, pop, metal, etc.) dare to appropriate it for themselves. They indicate that this is a cover story. Because plagiarism in the music world is impolite, unprofitable and risky.

P.S.
I thought you wrote in other languages because you were so proud. Well, such a brag. In fact, knowledge of several languages is respected. But I could not even guess that this is such revenge) writing in a language that you do not know is more work than reading with a built-in translator )) but I also thought that it would be great if all your compatriots took an example from you and learned to express their feelings and images with words, songs and chants than with weapons. The world would be a better place.

@analemma: I fell in love with your comment

Dr. Jokey: I'm not fixated on injuries at all
He's in 10 minutes.: I'm a foundling, genocide, that's it
After another 10 minutes: I didn't know my mom either
10 minutes later: by the way, did I tell you about the genocide?

@Sprat: after these statements, I thought that he would hang out for several episodes, and the satellites would have to persuade him to save the world, but everything was resolved very quickly

@alavitka: Capaldi was AMAZING! And half of the episodes with him are just the highest score in both plot and execution.

@alavitka: I stopped looking at Whittaker, and now I'm back. despite the fact that I like Whittaker as an actress, but as a Doctor she didn't go at all. The Eleventh and Twelfth had rotten episodes, but Smith and Capaldi themselves only took them out on the road. Whittaker took out about nothing.

Just yesterday I watched "at the bottom of the lake", where in the second episode of the arch he just breaks the 4th wall (can this be considered?)

@Ni-Ta: Well, no, the fourteenth talked about it in the Distance. Yes, the universe has become smaller, but other planets have not disappeared at all.

@NaruHinka: and the remaining doctors are not allowed 😀

@Ni-Ta: The stream destroyed about half of the universe, but the remaining half is still a hell of a lot, and it most likely continues to expand.

@alavitka: I wish in 2024 I could still believe in mandatory quotas

@Sprat: I looked, the Pantheon of Discord appeared on the screen only in the Adventures of Sarah Jane.

@_Jackdaw_: it's simple - Stravinsky, Shostakovich, Rachmaninov are not British)) Somehow, the UK doesn't have a lot of world-famous composers - Henry Purcell, Edward Elgar, Gustav Holst, Benjamin Britten, Ralph Vaughan-Williams - none of them comes back to mind from the lessons of the muses. literatures...