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s02e04 — The Red Dragon and the Gold

House of the Dragon — s02e04 — The Red Dragon and the Gold

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Duration: 43 min.
Released: 07.07.202408.07.2024 04:00
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2 season
s02e04
s01e10 - The Black Queen
s02e01 - A Son for a Son
s02e02 - Rhaenyra the Cruel
s02e03 - The Burning Mill
s02e04 - The Red Dragon and the Gold
s02e05 - Regent
s02e06 - Smallfolk
Release date
29 July
Release date
05 August

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m0thman
m0thman
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24 Jun 20:54 # Show original
The intriguing title of the series
the_fallen_devil
the_fallen_devil
09 Jul 11:27 # Show original
+ it was changed to the title of the chapter in the book. The Red Dragon and the Golden Dragon
the episode aired 08.07.2024
Bart182
Bart182
08 Jul 05:13 # Show original
The fire series!!!
So we saw the first battle: Meleis, Vhagar and the Solar Fire. But even without the latter, with only Vhagar, this battle would have ended in favor of the Greens, Kohl and Aymond came up with a good plan.

It's a pity for Meleis, this is her last look...
Nog
Nog
08 Jul 05:47 #
Iamthewinter
Iamthewinter
08 Jul 21:45 # Show original
I think she understood the risks, but she wanted to do everything beautifully.
myhavkedah
myhavkedah
09 Jul 00:08 # Show original
I think there's a reason she flew away without saying goodbye to her husband. And here on the cover of the series, look at their faces. As if that's the only way to deal with the betrayal she found out about.
Gretakoi
Gretakoi
09 Jul 01:27 # Show original
@myhavkedah: What kind of betrayal are we talking about?
Kvazizavr
Kvazizavr
09 Jul 01:51 # Show original
@Gretakoi: That the man who saved her husband is his bastard?
fairyfoxxy
fairyfoxxy
09 Jul 05:33 # Show original
@Gretakoi: Two brothers: one who saved Corlis and the second who saw the dragon - the sons of Corlis
-VLDMR-
-VLDMR-
09 Jul 19:02 # Show original
@fairyfoxxy: The bastard was probably introduced for a reason, but so that like a piano from the bushes at a crucial moment he sat on a dragon and saved everyone)
Disfordesire
Disfordesire
09 Jul 19:35 # Show original
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fairyfoxxy
fairyfoxxy
09 Jul 20:37 # Show original
@-VLDMR-: well, the Savior did not save, and The Dragon Laynor needs to be given to someone already, Missaria did not say for nothing that he was lonely
fairyfoxxy
fairyfoxxy
09 Jul 20:40 # Show original
@Disfordesire: In this episode, Rainis came up to him to talk, they say, "now I understand why you saved him, your mother must have been beautiful," and turned his face in her hands, and then Corlis rode up when he saw them.
MariaTsvetkova
MariaTsvetkova
10 Jul 07:22 # Show original
If he is Corlis's bastard, then he cannot ride a dragon, Corlis is not a Targaryen, and Velarion does not fly a dragon. Leina and Leinor inherited the ability to fly dragons from their mother, not their father.
MariaTsvetkova
MariaTsvetkova
10 Jul 07:24 # Show original
If Laynor is alive, then the dragon will not accept a new rider, they have a magical connection. Although it is possible that Laynor will die off-screen
nevsky26
nevsky26
10 Jul 09:00 # Show original
@MariaTsvetkova: He's probably already dead, because Rainira said in the last episode that his dragon has become restless lately.
fairyfoxxy
fairyfoxxy
10 Jul 09:03 #
@MariaTsvetkova: по книгам - сел
-VLDMR-
-VLDMR-
10 Jul 20:43 # Show original
@MariaTsvetkova: And what prevents the bastard of Corlis from being a Targaryen by his mother?))
Adrasteya
Adrasteya
10 Jul 22:53 # Show original
@-VLDMR-: mmm... What women did the Targaryens have during this time, Rhaenys and Rhaenyra? Well, as if a bastard of noble origin on both sides would not become a sailor. They would have found a place to put him.
Maggot87
Maggot87
11 Jul 10:49 # Show original
This bastard appeared before their wedding. According to the book, she is much younger than her husband and he obviously had women before her.
-VLDMR-
-VLDMR-
11 Jul 18:22 # Show original
@Adrasteya: Maybe the scriptwriters are mocking him again - suddenly he was not originally a sailor and shaves his hair for a reason, it is encrypted. And one quite noble bastard was also perfectly attached later - Jon Snow)
zaiKS
zaiKS
12 Jul 08:11 # Show original
@MariaTsvetkova: only Valyrians have the ability to Fly Dragons.
Mirzoevshama
Mirzoevshama
12 Jul 11:45 # Show original
There is no magical connection, but training from early childhood.
They take dragons with fear , and he gets used to it .
MariaTsvetkova
MariaTsvetkova
12 Jul 16:14 # Show original
According to the book, they were passed off as Leinor's bastards, respectively, they could not have appeared before the wedding of Corlis and Rainice, since then they would have been older than Leinor. According to the books, Alin is close to Baila in age
MariaTsvetkova
MariaTsvetkova
12 Jul 16:18 # Show original
Fear of what? Not all dragons have been tamed since childhood, there are cases of wild dragons riding in adulthood
Adrasteya
Adrasteya
13 Jul 13:36 # Show original
@zaiKS: So the Velarions are Valyrians. They arrived in Westeros with the Targaryens from across the sea.
Disfordesire
Disfordesire
13 Jul 22:49 # Show original
@fairyfoxxy: Yes, I stupidly did not add up 2 + 2, now I still do not understand why my comment was deleted
fairyfoxxy
fairyfoxxy
14 Jul 15:35 # Show original
@Disfordesire: yes, the maishous are completely crazy, they deleted my comm for 186+ likes, where I just described the opinion on the series
zaiKS
zaiKS
15 Jul 13:22 # Show original
@Adrasteya: I know. I answered but the comm
zaiKS
zaiKS
15 Jul 13:25 # Show original
@nevsky26: In 120, while visiting a fair in the town of Speystown, Ser Lanor was killed.
-VLDMR-
-VLDMR-
Yesterday, 21:24 #
@MariaTsvetkova: Недавно Мартин в соцсети написал, что на драконах могут летать не только Таргариены. Не знал, но вот это поворот. Дедуля готовит любые пути отхода и для себя и для сценаристов)
dezmond774
dezmond774
08 Jul 19:05 # Show original
@Bart182: What's good about that? We were shown again that neither skill, nor experience, nor maneuverability solve anything. Generally.
The one with the bigger dragon wins stupidly.
Rainice's mournful face also told us for the last 10 minutes that there would be no miracle. The old, trained nurse couldn't do anything to an ordinary child on just a hefty dragon.

Why a dragon rider is needed in the dragon app at all is still unclear.
krook
krook
09 Jul 00:29 # Show original
@dezmond774: here, at all, the screenwriter does not think about the physics of the flights of such a huge dragon. And even more so about how difficult it is to hide it.
And it turned out in the style: 'Someone ran - you turn your head, and there is no one else, only the desert around'.
Volfram
Volfram
09 Jul 14:33 # Show original
@krook: in theory, there was a cliff right behind the tower, in which Vhagar managed to accelerate in order to abruptly fly into Meleis
Otherwise... well... The moment with the sudden loss of such a carcass, of course, without comment
Volfram
Volfram
09 Jul 14:35 # Show original
@dezmond774: just skill and experience, alas, decided. The Vhagar is a full-fledged combat unit, hardened in many battles. Meleis is not. Yes, the scene from "it's time to return to battle, the old lady was beautiful, but this does not negate the fact that, in theory, Meleis had no experience in battle
Maggot87
Maggot87
11 Jul 10:56 # Show original
Bacchus is an old dragon. He came from Valyria with Aegon the Conqueror. one of his wives flew on it, and that's how he participated in the battles. And for me, it was shown how difficult he was in maneuverability, especially when he took off from the forest.
DanechkaK
DanechkaK
15 Jul 11:11 # Show original
@dezmond774: it's a shame for Reinis and Meleis in general, my heart breaks, stupidly merged ...
I agree, some sucker with a big dragon defeated an experienced and seasoned rider in battle, she is in fact more experienced, more strategic and smarter, and she was merged...
Геворг
Геворг
PRO
16 Jul 20:05 # Show original
@DanechkaK: merge is an offensive word hinting at the illogicality of what is happening.
shizuoasa
shizuoasa
09 Jul 01:45 # Show original
@Bart182: Are you kidding? If Meleis and Reinis had immediately fought Vhagar, they would have unwound in solo, they were already battered by the battle with Sunfire and then wounded Vhagar.
ron1
ron1
10 Jul 10:18 # Show original
@Bart182: the look just said "I knew I should have taken a parachute" or something like that =)
zula22
zula22
10 Jul 17:24 # Show original
@Bart182: When Kohl dies, I'll open the champagne. I don't feel such negativity towards Eamond at all.
Nog
Nog
08 Jul 05:24 # Show original
The middle of the second season, the battle between the dragons has finally arrived, a fierce and fleeting battle, as it should be. And with the exchange of important figures as a result.
It's a pity for Reyenice, her loss is a big blow to the blacks. To some extent, she was more important to them than Aegon was to the Greens. Velarion will definitely be angry.
And I feel a little sorry for Aegon too. To realize at the last minute that his brother had betrayed him... You wouldn't wish that on many people.
Nog
Nog
08 Jul 05:33 # Show original
Vhagar is so huge even compared to other adult dragons...
mixlad
mixlad
08 Jul 14:12 # Show original
Because the rest are youngsters. And Vhagao, along with Aegon the Conqueror, captured Westeros. This is the oldest of the dragons
Hannah_Abbot
Hannah_Abbot
PRO
08 Jul 22:44 # Show original
@mixlad: Meilis is younger than Weygar, yes, but she is more than 150 years old, Aunt Rainis rode her before, but Sunny is just a baby.
Yauzza
Yauzza
08 Jul 23:53 # Show original
Did they show Aegon dead? No.
myhavkedah
myhavkedah
09 Jul 00:09 # Show original
The teaser of the 5th episode praises Aegon in the footage of the carried box
shizuoasa
shizuoasa
09 Jul 01:47 # Show original
@Yauzza: he's alive, he'll just have a burn on his face, only according to the canon, Rhaenys left him with a dragon, not Aymond.
PianoOnTheLake
PianoOnTheLake
09 Jul 13:55 # Show original
@shizuoasa: It was rather strange if Eamond had decided to let him live after such a betrayal. 0_o
fairyfoxxy
fairyfoxxy
09 Jul 14:25 # Show original
@PianoOnTheLake: so Kohl stopped him
Volfram
Volfram
09 Jul 14:37 # Show original
@PianoOnTheLake: firstly, Kohl prevented him, and secondly, he actually did his job by turning his brother into a cripple, so that the throne is now captured by him, that's all
Nog
Nog
09 Jul 14:48 # Show original
@Volfram: if the king is alive, then, generally speaking, he should remember that his brother purposefully attacked him, and with all the merits of Eyemond, this is treason with the only possible death sentence. So the idea of finishing off Aegon is well founded.
And here's how it's turned out here - we'll see. The most logical thing is that the king is alive, but unable to speak or write, and will not be able to accuse him.
PianoOnTheLake
PianoOnTheLake
09 Jul 16:07 # Show original
@fairyfoxxy: If Eamond thinks Kohl is loyal to Aegon, then it would be more logical to kill him as well. Nothing is impossible here. Otherwise, we must come to an agreement.
PianoOnTheLake
PianoOnTheLake
09 Jul 16:10 # Show original
@Volfram: There will be a regent with the cripple, it is by no means a fact that he is. And if Aegon tells you everything, even more so. And there is no way Eamond can foresee the extent of the mutilation.
EgorVlasov
EgorVlasov
15 Jul 18:45 # Show original
@Volfram: Yes, Kohl had reason to think that Aymond would kill Aegon at the end, but in fact, he was just sheathing his sword the moment he saw Aegon's body.
I don't think he wanted to deliberately burn it then. He just showed how much Aegon means nothing to him now, that he is now ready to send him to hell as an ordinary infantryman in the name of personal goals. And will he survive after that? It doesn't matter. Aymond will stand his ground within this internal Green policy, after the success of the battle.
myhavkedah
myhavkedah
09 Jul 00:13 # Show original
Oh, and I don't feel sorry for Aegon at all. And there didn't seem to be a single moment that Eamond didn't avenge. And it's not just about the last episode and the scene in the brothel, I think it all started in the first season from the moment when Aegon and the sons of Rhaenyra teased him with a pig.
hjarn
hjarn
09 Jul 01:36 # Show original
@myhavkedah: Agree. Since the end of the first season, I've been sitting and waiting for someone to kill Aegon. Sometimes he rapes young maids, then he puts a pig on his brother, in the truest sense of the word. I liked how in the last episode of season 1 they put a roast pig in front of Eamond. A hint, however, of "Drakaris" in the future. Aegon didn't treat his wife/sister like a fountain either, judging by her words at the last dinner with Viserys. Of course, it's not Aegon's fault that he was born first. If I were the third, I'd be sitting quietly in some kind of brothel.
PianoOnTheLake
PianoOnTheLake
09 Jul 13:58 # Show original
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hjarn
hjarn
09 Jul 14:21 # Show original
@PianoOnTheLake: From what I saw, it followed that he had drunken bragging when the sea was knee-deep, that's why he flew on a dragon, and in the fight with Rainis, the realization came to me that I was an idiot.
PianoOnTheLake
PianoOnTheLake
09 Jul 15:44 # Show original
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Dark_Alice
Dark_Alice
09 Jul 17:08 # Show original
@PianoOnTheLake: "as a man" ko-ko-ko. If he's a man, then Reinis is a gigachad.
Phantasmat
Phantasmat
PRO
10 Jul 02:49 # Show original
@myhavkedah: I'm the only one who feels sorry for the king, ahhh
If he had been raised normally and his parents had paid attention, loved him, then he would not have grown up such a bastard.
In the last episode, Alicent didn't even comfort when the king was crying. The technique of "full-healthy, nothing else is needed."
I don't justify him at all, I just see him as an unloved and attention-deprived child.
Even this last conversation with my mother, I perceive that the king realized that no one needed him and he was just a pawn who should sit quietly on the throne. So he got drunk and flew to prove that he was worth something.
Phantasmat
Phantasmat
PRO
10 Jul 02:50 # Show original
@hjarn: They put a bolt on his upbringing, because they did not plan to educate him as a future king.
fairyfoxxy
fairyfoxxy
10 Jul 05:39 # Show original
@Phantasmat: I feel sorry for him, too, precisely because of this. And, unfortunately, all children needed love and care, maybe they wouldn't have grown up with such a jerk (neither Viserys nor Alicent showed feelings for them, but screamed, but Aegon certainly got the most. Without whitewashing his actions, you can understand why he is like this. Unhappy, unloved.
chickchirik
chickchirik
10 Jul 06:36 # Show original
@Phantasmat: which is strange in itself. That's how Rhaenyra could have died of an elementary illness or from childbirth, like her mother. 🤷🏻‍♀️

I'm not saying that he should have been raised as a direct heir, but definitely as a backup option.
myhavkedah
myhavkedah
10 Jul 08:37 # Show original
Well, that's it, I agree with everything you wrote. But that doesn't make him look good to me.
Phantasmat
Phantasmat
PRO
10 Jul 23:50 # Show original
@chickchirik: the late king did not need to get married if he did not plan to make his sons heirs. Of course, the right hand pressed on him, planted his own Alicent.
Even if you did not bring up like a king, then at least show elementary parental affection and care, this would also affect the future formation of Aegon's personality.
Phantasmat
Phantasmat
PRO
10 Jul 23:51 # Show original
@chickchirik: Viserys closed himself off, grieving for his wife, playing with toys, he didn't care about anything at all, what kind of children to deal with, to instruct on the right path, to be an example..
chickchirik
chickchirik
11 Jul 07:14 # Show original
@Phantasmat: That's right.But on the other hand, how NOT to get married if you have only one child? This puts the royal family at risk in the event of Rainira's death.

And considering that Viserys believed that it was his family who would save the world, even more so. 🤷🏻‍♀️ In theory, the step is correct, but the execution...
PianoOnTheLake
PianoOnTheLake
11 Jul 15:37 # Show original
@Phantasmat: Why write "alone ", it is clear that there is no...
Cry_to_Heaven
Cry_to_Heaven
21 Jul 17:27 # Show original
@chickchirik: Viserys really didn't want to see Daemon on the throne. He didn't want it so much that he even married an unloved woman and had unloved children.
PianoOnTheLake
PianoOnTheLake
09 Jul 13:51 # Show original
@Nog: I'm still not 100% sure that they're both dead. Of course, miracles don't happen very often in the IP world, but no convincing corpses have been shown yet. Although Eamond probably made sure that his brother was dead (or even finished him off).
myhavkedah
myhavkedah
10 Jul 08:39 # Show original
He was just going to stop him.
zula22
zula22
10 Jul 17:28 # Show original
@Nog: straight to tears
Nog
Nog
08 Jul 05:43 # Show original
Millie)
andrusha_ny
andrusha_ny
08 Jul 05:52 # Show original
Guys, don't watch this episode, it's a heartbreak. I was sobbing with all my soul.
Meleis is forever in my heart!
It is clear that this was predictable, considering that I had read the book, but Rainis was not afraid, like a true warrior, she went to the end and performed the last dance with her beautiful deacon, it was divine.
I will definitely watch it with Russian voice acting.
Artfullash
Artfullash
08 Jul 17:26 # Show original
@andrusha_ny: Xs as this moment was described in the book, but in the series after Sunfire (the dragon of the king) was wounded, she could have retreated, yes, they would have lost the castle, but we can say -1 dragon among the greens (although he did not die, but he became a vegetable and was not capable of fighting against other dragons), and so she went into suicide, or after the first 1-on-1 approach with Vhagar, she realized that there was nothing to cook and flew towards the sea and wanted to fly away, but the scenario won. Again, the cliche with Vhagar, she barely takes off with a run, and somehow ended up behind the castle and unexpectedly caught Meleis, that is, she had to fly below the rocks and bite in time, she would not be able to slow down in the air because of the size and would stupidly collapse into the water, that is, stupidly again a scenario move, they could have already killed her in battle before, and not after, for the sake of "this is a twist"
10anya_d
10anya_d
08 Jul 19:11 # Show original
@Artfullash: as a result, she herself then fell on the castle, I also think this move is extremely stupid, like sacrifice for the sake of sacrifice... although it would be much more logical to go to Rainira and prepare for a meeting with Vhagar not alone... considering that Rhaenys knew perfectly well when she saw Vhagar that they had lost these lands...
bertruce
bertruce
08 Jul 20:27 # Show original
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shizuoasa
shizuoasa
09 Jul 01:49 # Show original
@Artfullash: To retreat is to abandon allies who have sworn allegiance. Are you joking at all? They are men of honor and word and do not run away from battles.
Artfullash
Artfullash
09 Jul 03:30 # Show original
@shizuoasa: To retreat, nothing prevented them from returning later with large forces, yes, near the castle of Vhagar, but leaving it there is not so rational, because the royal harbor is unprotected. The only reason to leave her is for the sake of the Sanfair guard until he gets stronger. But in this case, Rainira could arrange a visit to the kingdom with all the air forces, but for now the raven will fly to one-eye and Vhagar back - half of the capital will be demolished, so there is no point in leaving Vhagar at the left castle. According to the book, they tried to make an attempt on a half-dead dragon, but if I'm not mistaken, it was about infantry, not a dragon attack. Which is in vain, because Sunfire will still play a significant role in several battles.
lenala
lenala
09 Jul 23:59 # Show original
@Artfullash: That's how Reinis and Meleis won the first round against Vhagar, so it's not suicide at all. but the enemy megakus won
NarminSalayeva
NarminSalayeva
12 Jul 15:34 # Show original
I also hoped to the end that Rainis would fly away, but alas 😭
Adelink_k
Adelink_k
12 Jul 19:18 # Show original
@10anya_d: as far as I understand, she could have backed off, but she didn't do it because of the betrayal, the stupid drama annoys me... No wonder this moment was just shown to justify her sacrifice..
Laime
Laime
08 Jul 21:31 # Show original
@andrusha_ny: "I will definitely watch it with Russian voice acting." - Why spoil your impression?
fairyfoxxy
fairyfoxxy
08 Jul 06:59 # Show original
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WalrusU
WalrusU
08 Jul 22:24 # Show original
@fairyfoxxy: God. the last paragraph is simple)) I fully support you!
Pearlshed
Pearlshed
08 Jul 22:34 # Show original
@fairyfoxxy: Kolya is infuriating just by his presence. Well, nothing. Maybe someone else will be killed because of the feeling for the death of the king.
Diana_Ter
Diana_Ter
09 Jul 21:35 # Show original
@fairyfoxxy: I'm joining you! I also wept over the battle of dragons (((Most of them were always more pitiful. Poor dragons, there aren't many of them left anyway, and these idiotic people are forcing them to fight against each other(
Danusha0803
Danusha0803
10 Jul 00:28 # Show original
How do they all in the IP world understand where what kind of tea was just in a jar))) there are some standards of cans or something))
Maggot87
Maggot87
11 Jul 11:06 # Show original
Maybe))
motokokisaragi
motokokisaragi
11 Jul 13:07 # Show original
It's just that no one drinks tea unnecessarily, they drink wine :))))
Danusha0803
Danusha0803
15 Jul 12:07 # Show original
Exactly 😂
xscdio
xscdio
10 Jul 21:00 # Show original
And what about the flammability of Targaryens? Aren't they all burning like Daenerys?
All three riders seem to have been doused in fire during the dragon fight, and all are safe.
fairyfoxxy
fairyfoxxy
10 Jul 21:04 # Show original
@xscdio: No, Daenerys is the only one with such a feature. Rhaenys and Aegon were in armor, and Aegon was burned as a result.
vk922554
vk922554
08 Jul 08:39 # Show original
Queen Milla 🥰
Falleny
Falleny
PRO
08 Jul 09:19 # Show original
It was nice to see Millie again with:
Falleny
Falleny
PRO
08 Jul 09:23 # Show original
@Falleny: While everyone is fighting, Damon jumps from one trip to another :D

In general, it's interesting that they chose a young Rainira (Millie Alcock) for the trips

Kari_Tristalet
Kari_Tristalet
08 Jul 18:36 # Show original
@Falleny: time travel. DOCTOR WHO
detraque
detraque
09 Jul 11:14 # Show original
@Kari_Tristalet: Best comment))
fairyfoxxy
fairyfoxxy
09 Jul 11:21 # Show original
@Kari_Tristalet: It remains to be seen in which storeroom Damon parked his TARDIS
Kari_Tristalet
Kari_Tristalet
09 Jul 20:25 # Show original
@fairyfoxxy: think wider. They have caves
Геворг
Геворг
PRO
16 Jul 20:08 #
@Falleny: так она лучше. Плюс в этом возрасте Деймону обделили короной
vk922554
vk922554
08 Jul 09:46 # Show original
@Falleny: Well, obviously she wouldn't have been called for 30 seconds in the last episode. Will Damon trip all season long 😄
And the fact that Millie, well, everyone loved her in the first season and was upset about growing up. At least they returned it like that
forgotten_tale
forgotten_tale
09 Jul 16:29 # Show original
@Falleny: The true queen.
Falleny
Falleny
PRO
08 Jul 09:31 # Show original
In general, just now I noticed that If I made my horse a unicorn, what a princess (:
Hidji
Hidji
08 Jul 21:48 # Show original
@Falleny: so after all, all in white, a pure and immaculate virgin with her vow of chastity, a unicorn is supposed to be😆
dashamrykalo
dashamrykalo
08 Jul 09:52 # Show original
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dashamrykalo
dashamrykalo
08 Jul 09:57 # Show original
I'm sitting and thinking why the battle didn't come straight to me, even though I was so expecting cruelty (realizing that I wouldn't have to watch the palace intrigues, because they actually don't exist). and it dawned on me - the soundtrack. Even Ramin gave up. usually, for fights with dragons, he used to write such masterpieces that it took your breath away, but there wasn't even goosebumps here.. and, of course, the fight itself. God knows, well, how did the huge, barely lifting Veygar manage to ambush Meilis in clear weather? Meilis is an experienced fighter, she is not a baby dragon who does not even have the strength to scratch a dragon. And Rainis is no slouch either. what nonsense they wrote. Meilis had a real chance to shut down Waygar, since she is slow and clumsy, and Aegon with Sunfire would be the decisive factor in their victory over the fast and nimble Meilis. ugh! the graphics don't look good, the armor looks like it was bought in bulk for everything at 99 rubles. very cheap and uninteresting
dashamrykalo
dashamrykalo
08 Jul 09:55 # Show original
it feels like the creators will lead us to the conclusion by the end of the series that the season of Game of thrones is not so bad 🙃🙂
slavash
slavash
11 Jul 20:22 # Show original
@dashamrykalo: I've been sure of that since the first season. On the Internet, it's just customary to sit through season 8. But it is much more dynamic and interesting than DD. At least there are characters involved that were revealed in the first seasons, there has already been a season and a half in DD and only one and a half characters can be called relatively interesting.
dashamrykalo
dashamrykalo
11 Jul 23:43 # Show original
my comment was laced with sarcasm. in no way do I excuse the shameful drain of all the storylines and 95% of the interesting, deep characters that season 8 of the IP was. they (the characters) may have "taken" part in the events, but in fact they were just stupidly in the frame, behaving like a diluted, stupefied version of themselves of the first 4 seasons.
dashamrykalo
dashamrykalo
08 Jul 10:03 # Show original
It really pisses me off how little the characters reveal. they behave the same way in the same scenes. How many times can you show which Aegon is a fool? how long can you show that he's drinking and make it the center of the stage? is it possible to make him a complex, interesting character? Humanize him? so that the audience really gets into it? show his connection to the dragon? Have we ever seen the two of them, seen their connection, seen how much he loves Sunfire? After all, the books say how much he loved his dragon, that they had an incredibly strong bond. Where??? Just what kind of flat, boring scenario is this? how the hell can you take a CIVIL WAR between the royal family of dragonriders and make it boring? I'm burning on them, Jesus Christ
Nitanael
Nitanael
PRO
08 Jul 12:00 # Show original
I subscribe to every word. As much as I liked the first season, even if it wasn't without stupid scenario decisions, and as much as I don't like EVERYTHING this season, I'm just too lazy to write a full-fledged comment on each episode.
shizuoasa
shizuoasa
09 Jul 01:52 # Show original
@dashamrykalo: according to the series, one can sympathize with him only in the fact that his mother has not loved him since childhood and does not put him in anything.
PianoOnTheLake
PianoOnTheLake
09 Jul 14:39 # Show original
@dashamrykalo: In this episode, Aegon just unexpectedly showed that he is capable not only of drinking, yelling at those who are smarter and older, and hiding behind his mom in a moment of danger. Yes, it turned out to be stupid! But it could have been a great inspiration to the medieval army if his brother had supported him.
Besides, in my opinion, the Aegon complexes are demonstrated quite well here.
Phantasmat
Phantasmat
PRO
10 Jul 02:55 # Show original
@dashamrykalo: I got into it, does it count!? 😀😅
I justify all his disgusting actions - lack of love and attention from his parents in childhood + lack of upbringing.
lera_shakal
lera_shakal
08 Jul 10:15 # Show original
A very cool moment - Lord Darklin spitting at Kohl's feet – You are not worthy of a white cloak. Goosebumps
lera_shakal
lera_shakal
08 Jul 10:17 # Show original
I still don't understand the Alicol line and this moon tea circus.
lubik
lubik
09 Jul 15:19 # Show original
I take it she had an abortion..
idrita7siniy
idrita7siniy
09 Jul 22:43 # Show original
@lubik: Hmm, and I thought that this was the tea, so as not to get pregnant, that was brought to Rainira after the scene in the brothel with Damon.
EyeOfTheRaven
EyeOfTheRaven
PRO
09 Jul 23:29 # Show original
@idrita7siniy it's the same drink - moon tea.
fairyfoxxy
fairyfoxxy
10 Jul 05:42 # Show original
@idrita7siniy: She was already pregnant. If he left to fight, why would she need birth control pills? She provoked a miscarriage, most likely, which is why in the scene with Laris, she applied hot stones from the fireplace to her stomach
Nastya2416
Nastya2416
08 Jul 10:24 # Show original
Even the footage of Meleis' death hurts me, but it's even harder to watch it in full. The way she looked as if saying goodbye. What are you doing? Why are you tearing my heart out? That only makes me hate Amonond and his Vhagar even more. Hate. And don't tell me anything.
Damon's glucans are more of a concern to me already.
Finally, our noble queen herself drank her favorite tea, "no kids."
Where did Aegon go on the dragon? I think his bat on the dragon is zero. I think he went to prove something to everyone, because they don't put him in anything. Not a grandfather, not a mother, not a brother. And my brother also emphasizes on the small council that he is just a table decor here. I liked the series more or less, the movement began. But my heart was poured out. She went into mourning.
Pearlshed
Pearlshed
08 Jul 22:39 # Show original
@Nastya2416: Eamond has finally shown that he is worth it... And the feegles tried to prove to us that he regretted Luceris... Ugh.
Наизусть
Наизусть
09 Jul 07:34 # Show original
@Pearlshed: well, as for me, in the situation with Luke, he was not so much sorry as surprised by Vhagar's independent decision, plus he understood the consequences of this.
He also seems to have a specific goal here. Yes, he hadn't planned it, but he took advantage of the moment. According to the series, Aegon now has no heirs, so Aymond himself is next in line,🤷
deepressure
deepressure
09 Jul 13:57 # Show original
What about the daughter?
PianoOnTheLake
PianoOnTheLake
09 Jul 14:44 # Show original
@By heart: Nevertheless, it was his regret that was shown, he spoke about it himself and it did not look like he was being hypocritical.
Наизусть
Наизусть
09 Jul 21:35 # Show original
@deepressure: the whole mess in the series is literally because half of the lords refused to accept a woman as an heiress 🙄
To call Aegon's daughter an heir is literally to admit that Aegon himself is a usurper and has no right to the throne.
Наизусть
Наизусть
09 Jul 21:38 # Show original
@PianoOnTheLake: so he couldn't stand Luke and held grudges by the eye since childhood, although he himself said that it was equivalent since he got a deacon.
Yes, he even managed to challenge him to a fight at the first meeting, even though they were both ambassadors with a mission more important than offending. I'm not denying that he may have regretted this situation, but I'm convinced that he didn't regret Luke's death.
lera_shakal
lera_shakal
08 Jul 10:34 # Show original
Alicent, who, after Rhaenyra's words, finally doubted Viserys' intentions. He wasn't talking about Aegon 2)).
The significance of Viserys' intentions died with him. Finally, usurpers speak like usurpers. War is inevitable.
Aegon revealed himself very well in the series. A moody child who is offended that adults do not listen to him. Do you think the crown on your head has filled you with wisdom?"
"- So what should I do, Mother?
- What is required of you. Nothing."
That says it all)
lera_shakal
lera_shakal
08 Jul 10:51 # Show original
@lera_shakal: as we can see, he couldn't even do that. Well, what you sow, you reap
PianoOnTheLake
PianoOnTheLake
09 Jul 14:45 # Show original
@lera_shakal: And who would want to at his age and in his place?
idrita7siniy
idrita7siniy
09 Jul 22:46 # Show original
@PianoOnTheLake: Rainira's son listens to her, but he also wants to go into battle and at the same time he does nothing without her, they show us this very clearly, they compare the relationship of two mothers with their children.
lera_shakal
lera_shakal
08 Jul 10:35 # Show original
I was pleased with Rainie/Millie as a projection of Damon's hidden fears: "You intend to destroy me because your brother loved me more than you." Although Damon denies it, he still kills her in hallucinations, because the truth stings her eyes).
I was very surprised to see Leina.
Alice turned out to be a colorful witch. Her story about the damned Harrenhal, and even her total eloquence towards Damon, is the best just
myhavkedah
myhavkedah
09 Jul 07:39 # Show original
I really liked Alice Rivers' phrase to Daemon that he likes that there are claims to Rainira's place while he is in Harrenhal.
zula22
zula22
16 Jul 07:32 # Show original
@myhavkedah: At first, I confused this Rivers with the sister-wife of the king. It seems to me that the actresses are very similar
myhavkedah
myhavkedah
16 Jul 08:56 # Show original
A king or a usurper?)))))
shishkina_vika
shishkina_vika
08 Jul 10:42 # Show original
How it always hurts in dragon battles, it hurts for the dragons themselves, who are the only victims of the war

I don't understand what the screenwriters want to do with the relationship between Aegon and Aymond) it's a cringe) yes, I'll mention the book again, but Aegon literally ordered monuments to Aymond and Deiron to be erected because they fought in the war on his side and they are his brothers 🥲
TV series: pohuy plus pohuy.
As far as I remember, and I remember it for sure, Eamond, although he believed that he should sit on the throne, but he never intentionally tried to kill his brother, I don't understand why it was necessary to change that.

So little Solar Fire, a dragon who has gone through a lot of shit while dancing, such a poor boy (((

The look of Meilis before her death broke my heart, I repeat once again that I cannot calmly react to the deaths of dragons.
independence777
independence777
09 Jul 05:11 # Show original
> Dragons are the only victims of the war
In what way? They showed us here how infantry died by the hundreds, fortresses were captured and people were executed, and what happened to the civilian population was generally behind the scenes. The riders also died. You don't feel sorry for people, are you to blame?
PianoOnTheLake
PianoOnTheLake
09 Jul 14:48 # Show original
@independence777: It's funny, animal lovers have even forgotten about horses...
ShrecKer
ShrecKer
09 Jul 23:03 # Show original
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prison
prison
14 Jul 20:17 #
@ShrecKer: какой бред.
В этих сценах боев и делают акцент на драконах. Люди пачками гибнут где-то на фоне. Что тебя удивляет в том что людей больше цепляют именно смерти драконов?
torrerro
torrerro
09 Jul 21:27 # Show original
@shishkina_vika: Isn't it more interesting that the brothers don't really love each other? This further twists the plot. I understand that you are a book lover and it seems to you that the narrative should go exactly as it is written. But it seems to me, why not, actually?
nonaems
nonaems
10 Jul 00:43 # Show original
@shishkina_vika: Last time I taught Eamond an excuse "it's not me, it's Vhagar"
limbo
limbo
14 Jul 07:24 #
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lera_shakal
lera_shakal
08 Jul 10:46 # Show original
My heart sinks when I see the suffering of dragons. Regardless of the faction: Sunfire, Meleis.
Meleis and Reinis are a separate story. Their gaze at each other right before they die. I can't believe that dragons are just animals and tools. They are something more. For Rainis, Meleis is akin to a sister. Despite the inevitable finale, their farewell turned out to be very touching
shizuoasa
shizuoasa
09 Jul 01:54 # Show original
@lera_shakal: In the book, Sunfire and Aegon are also very close, this was not shown in the series at all.
idrita7siniy
idrita7siniy
09 Jul 22:49 # Show original
@shizuoasa: They showed a little when they met
theGraw
theGraw
09 Jul 20:41 # Show original
@lera_shakal: For Rhaenys, Vhagar used to be her daughter's dragon, too...
Tatieva
Tatieva
08 Jul 10:51 # Show original
Damon in the form of Eamond... As unexpected as possible, but hot.
PianoOnTheLake
PianoOnTheLake
09 Jul 14:50 # Show original
@Tatieva: Well, they're juxtaposed all the time one way or another. Starting with the names.
Draconian
Draconian
08 Jul 11:17 # Show original
The battle of the dragons is rather strangely staged - it is clear that Rhaenys decides to return to fight Eamond and knows that there is no chance in fact, but the decision to kill Meilis surreptitiously smacks of Game of Thrones, where Euron Greyjoy suddenly kills one of Daenerys' dragons.
This, of course, is quite suitable for the character of Eamond (at least the one that the showrunners are trying to make of him), but to show a long initial skirmish between Vhagar and Meilis, only to then just kill the latter in 15 seconds?
katkatkotkot
katkatkotkot
08 Jul 11:23 # Show original
Oh, and I cried, watching the dragons fight, no matter whose side they were fighting for, my heart breaks looking at this pain they are experiencing.
vk922554
vk922554
08 Jul 11:33 # Show original
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fairyfoxxy
fairyfoxxy
08 Jul 11:40 # Show original
@vk922554: is it possible to worry only when something is real? All movies and TV series are not real, according to this logic, there should be no emotions, what?
vk922554
vk922554
08 Jul 11:44 # Show original
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Nonelementary
Nonelementary
08 Jul 12:18 # Show original
@vk922554: Well, don't cry, is someone forcing you? a person describes his impressions
fairyfoxxy
fairyfoxxy
08 Jul 12:54 # Show original
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fairyfoxxy
fairyfoxxy
08 Jul 12:55 # Show original
@vk922554: try to look at dragons not as computer characters, but as ordinary animals and feel their relationship with a person, with the owner. It turns out that they are no different from a real kitty or dog. If people cry over Hachiko, why is it strange to cry over Meilis and Sanfaer?) They also loved and were devoted to the very end
EyeOfTheRaven
EyeOfTheRaven
PRO
08 Jul 23:54 # Show original
vk922554 Hello, Chandler Bing😂
slavash
slavash
11 Jul 20:31 # Show original
@fairyfoxxy: I have nothing to do with these dragons, they were shown to me for a few minutes in 2 seasons, I don't really know anything about them. Well, they killed and killed. There were a lot more people and horses killed on the battlefield by these dragons, I feel more sorry for them.
fairyfoxxy
fairyfoxxy
11 Jul 21:22 # Show original
@slavash: Thank you for sharing your opinion, it is very important to us.
limbo
limbo
14 Jul 07:26 #
@fairyfoxxy: ты в курсе, что твой летающий псевдокотик за раз сжигает несколько десятков людей, лошадей, возможно, что и собак с настоящими котиками? и тебе реально эту тварь жальче? лол
PianoOnTheLake
PianoOnTheLake
14 Jul 13:57 # Show original
@fairyfoxxy: I said it right. Dragons are not revealed as characters at all, there is no point comparing them to Hachiko.
fairyfoxxy
fairyfoxxy
14 Jul 15:38 # Show original
@limbo: really. And the creature is Kriston Kohl, not dragons. Did my answer make you feel better? If not, drink some water, look out the window, reflect.
fairyfoxxy
fairyfoxxy
14 Jul 15:41 # Show original
@PianoOnTheLake: is there no point in comparing? It makes no sense to blame or reproach people for what emotions and to whom they feel when watching the series. Cry for the third archer on the right or the third horse in the fifth cavalry if you want.
PianoOnTheLake
PianoOnTheLake
15 Jul 14:47 # Show original
@fairyfoxxy: I certainly don't care about the third horse in the fifth cavalry. )) She is similarly undisclosed, unlike Hachiko or another GG animal. The same dragon in "How to Train a Dragon" or "Dragon's Heart", say.
fairyfoxxy
fairyfoxxy
15 Jul 17:12 # Show original
@PianoOnTheLake: The series is called the House of the Dragon. This is a symbol of the series, if you do not understand why these animals are important to people and they worry about almost the main characters, along with the ruling family, I do not know how else to explain my take to you. Worry about who you want and let others do the same.
Jinx
Jinx
08 Jul 11:37 # Show original
The morning begins not with coffee, but with tears and sobs, for the first time I regret that the series was filmed according to the canon of the book, I am incredibly sorry for the dragons, also this look of Meleis ...God, well, into the very heart💔
shizuoasa
shizuoasa
09 Jul 01:56 # Show original
@Jinx: Where is the canon? Aymond, who fried his brother, and in the end he also wanted to finish him off on the sly?
EyeOfTheRaven
EyeOfTheRaven
PRO
09 Jul 08:05 # Show original
@Jinx where did he want to finish him off? When they showed us Eamond, he was putting away his sword, not taking it out. Obviously, he was walking through the woods with a ball, you never know if Black soldiers are staggering there, which is logical.
Hidji
Hidji
09 Jul 13:03 # Show original
@SantaJul: he was absolutely pulling the sword out of its scabbard at the moment when Kolyan saw him approaching the body of Sanfair. You can reconsider.
EyeOfTheRaven
EyeOfTheRaven
PRO
09 Jul 13:19 # Show original
@Hidji, I just reviewed it and clearly saw that he was putting it away, because I saw my brother's dagger on the ground.
Hidji
Hidji
09 Jul 13:44 # Show original
@SantaJul: I'm sorry, the sword was really already in my hand. The first impression is deceptive.
voronrun
voronrun
09 Jul 13:47 # Show original
@SantaJul: I watched it five times: he first swung to finish it off, but when he heard a shout, he put his sword in his scabbard
EyeOfTheRaven
EyeOfTheRaven
PRO
09 Jul 13:50 # Show original
@Hidji here we go) And I also wondered why everyone is so sure that he is going to finish it off? For us, for the audience, everything is clear about Aegon, who has not yet read it, but from the character's side it looks different - the guy was set on fire, and then he fell from an incredible height. For Aymond, it may be self-evident that Aegon is already dead, because it is almost impossible to survive such a fall and he purposefully went after the dagger, he has a fetish for them😁
EyeOfTheRaven
EyeOfTheRaven
PRO
09 Jul 13:51 # Show original
@voronrun where did he swing? It clearly shows that Aegon is a few meters away from him🤦🏼♀️ And don't forget about Sanfire, who, although injured, could have given Aymond a pussy if anything, the guy would have thought about it.
voronrun
voronrun
09 Jul 14:03 # Show original
@SantaJul: We were shown exactly what Eamond was going to finish off. And Eamond's look and the sword and Kohl's shout and the whole scene in general speaks about it
EyeOfTheRaven
EyeOfTheRaven
PRO
09 Jul 14:33 # Show original
@vkronrun well, he tells you, he doesn't tell me. As I have already written somewhere, everything is specially filmed so that everyone decides for himself what he believes in, and therefore it is pointless to argue.
PianoOnTheLake
PianoOnTheLake
09 Jul 14:53 # Show original
@SantaJul: I didn't dare with the Stake, then. (Or maybe he's already finished it off, and now he's pretending that he's just getting to the goal?)
Hidji
Hidji
09 Jul 15:16 # Show original
@SantaJul: Yes, everything is simple. Unlike the books, the serial Eamond appears to the viewer as a typical victim of bullying by his older brother and his company. That's downright exemplary. At the same time, we see that he periodically breaks the bar and can do tin for a sweet soul. This is not a book character who loves his brother. There is a sea of grievances here, the last of which is a very recent scene in a brothel. Therefore, it is quite logical for the audience to see in him a desire to take revenge on his brother. He's already killed relatives, he won't flinch for sure. Come up and finish off a possible survivor - why not?
EyeOfTheRaven
EyeOfTheRaven
PRO
09 Jul 16:11 # Show original
@PianoOnTheLake well, I can't continue the discussion with you, because I'll have to spoiler, and I'm already being bullied for spoilers here.
EyeOfTheRaven
EyeOfTheRaven
PRO
09 Jul 16:17 # Show original
@Hidji agrees. For people, especially those who have not read, everything is really very clear here. But at the same time, logic is disabled, both for the audience and for the creators, if they wanted to show exactly this. Because trying to kill a rider with a living dragon, who also surrounded his rider with his body as if protecting him, is pure suicide and Eamond, as a rider, should also understand this. We have already been shown this with Denis, Drogon and Jaime, and Aegon and his dragon also have a very strong connection, which of course was not shown in the series, but I would like to hope that this at least exists behind the scenes somewhere.
yaninka91
yaninka91
08 Jul 11:53 # Show original
To release this particular episode on Reinice's birthday is, of course, fire (in every sense)
yaninka91
yaninka91
08 Jul 11:58 # Show original
How sweetly Rainis called Meilis “old girl” ( (no, I'm not crying)
MacLeoddd
MacLeoddd
PRO
08 Jul 12:01 # Show original
I feel painfully sorry for Reinis and Meleis, right to tears. Their last goodbyes and glances are just heartbreaking. The morning doesn 't start with coffee today 💔
Nog
Nog
08 Jul 12:09 # Show original
There was another strong moment.
drakonis
drakonis
PRO
08 Jul 17:20 # Show original
It's a pity for dragons, of course, but such moments are really touching. Of course, if we talk about the experiences of a healthy person, and not a smoker. Not so long ago, on a comment about the experience of a dog in the discussion of another series, I asked " And don't you worry about people?" — no judgment, just a question. I caught 80% of dislikes and the answer is "why worry about them". So, apparently, they'll throw it again, but I'll get over it.

That's what I mean. Here again I see comments like "it hurts for the dragons, who are the only victims of the war." I see that the problem is massive, so I repeat. All these people who worry more about dragons / animals than for people do not even realize that they are demonstrating their true nature, which they themselves hate. No one has abolished the law of the mirror — the attitude towards other people is determined by what is in the person himself. Everyone sees in others only what is in himself, even if it is not really in them, and is not able to recognize in others what is missing in himself. So it turns out that all these people who dislike and worry about animals, but not for people, show their disgusting inner world, which they do not accept in others, but refuse to see in themselves.

However, dragons/animals are also a pity, yes. But the same loss of Reyenice personally touches me much more.
rynsk
rynsk
08 Jul 20:36 # Show original
Fuck, you're wearing a white raincoat. Even Kohl's is not as shiny and silvery as yours.
drakonis
drakonis
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08 Jul 21:26 # Show original
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rynsk
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08 Jul 23:07 # Show original
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Adrasteya
Adrasteya
09 Jul 01:59 # Show original
@drakonis: I feel sorry for those who are defenseless due to weakness or lack/ limitation of will. The same Rainis could have flown to Dragonstone, but decided to stay. It was her choice. Dragons have no choice, they do what they are ordered to do. Therefore, yes, they are more pitiful sometimes.
drakonis
drakonis
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09 Jul 02:26 # Show original
@rynsk: thank you for the visual demonstration of the level of intelligence and moral character of the minuses 👍
drakonis
drakonis
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09 Jul 02:33 # Show original
@Adrasteya: it turns out that dragons are more defenseless "due to weakness or lack/limitation of will" than soldiers in both armies and civilians who fall under the batch? Do they have a choice, unlike dragons? Can they not do what they are ordered to do?
Adrasteya
Adrasteya
09 Jul 11:32 # Show original
@drakonis: That's right, let's take pity on the crowd of men who go to kill, rob and rape. The poor wretches, how hard it is for them. Armies in those days, by the way, were not conscripted, but hired - they consisted of professionals who received money for it. So yes, they had a choice not to join the army, but to do something more useful.
I also feel sorry for civilians. In this situation, they were not shown to us, but the dragons were shown.
Altay_Virgin
Altay_Virgin
09 Jul 14:36 # Show original
@drakonis: It's just that we're going to share our impressions of the series here, and not give psychological assessments to each other.
PianoOnTheLake
PianoOnTheLake
09 Jul 15:05 # Show original
@Adrasteya: It's not just the hired ones, and they showed something else in the series. In the XVI century. mercenaries-landsknechts had the maximum spread, but here the period is earlier, not even the War of the Roses (see IP).
gameroleg
gameroleg
09 Jul 22:12 # Show original
Well, if anything, you show pity for creatures that are predators. And if they didn't have many years of training and if they had free will, they would just eat everyone indiscriminately. They are just a weighty argument for governing the state. The only pity here is Rainis, who realized that she was doomed and decided to fight to the last. I agree with many that the final death of her dragon is a wild fakap on the part of the showrunners. The beginning of the battle was great, but they could not make a real battle, show the tactical battle of the horsemen, they depicted it too childishly. Let's hope that similar battles are still waiting for us.
Iscariot_Elian
Iscariot_Elian
11 Jul 01:12 # Show original
@drakonis:

And I'll just say once again - SO WHAT?
There are only troubles from people. From people who choose to kill other people not because they are in danger of death, but for imaginary values built by these same people.
Call it what you want, but yes - animals will always be more pitiful.

In general, they came to discuss the series here, so no - you need to pour shit on people with a different worldview from yours.
drakonis
drakonis
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11 Jul 19:24 # Show original
@Iscariot_Elian: Let's get to the specifics. Let's say there was a car accident, which is the fault of one drunk *****, who is a human being. At the same time, a lot of people, a dog and a cat were injured. The person is to blame, and in general all the problems are because of people, so people are not sorry, but the cat and the dog deserve regrets. Am I developing your idea correctly? Otherwise, correct it.

And about "we came to discuss the series here" — this is the same logic as "my hut is on the edge, let everyone behave as they want, as long as it does not concern me personally." And then they themselves scream the most when something touches them, saying that people are all so bad. And if you are reasonably pointed out to this, then you perceive it as "pouring shit", and "another worldview" acts as a counterargument. By the way, this is very similar to the position of supporters of non—binary genders - just to be offended and "I feel that way."

And since you consider simple arguments without insults to be "pouring shit", it means that you still subconsciously realize that you are taking some kind of unhealthy position. You should listen to the subconscious, there is a storehouse of wisdom there.
Maggot87
Maggot87
13 Jul 08:46 # Show original
Listen, I definitely feel sorry for people. It is a pity for the thousands who die in the war. It's just that dragons are one of the key figures in this series, there are few of them and everyone counts. Dragons are also fictional creatures that frighten and delight humans. Therefore, when you immerse yourself in the world of the series / book, a lot goes to the triple plan. It is not worth blaming people for not writing regrets about the thousands who died under the feet of a dragon or Rainis.
kot_nastya
kot_nastya
08 Jul 21:59 # Show original
Tell me, is this handful of ashes Alicent's brother?? I don't want to lose such a rational handsome man so early :(((
sirpravdi
sirpravdi
08 Jul 23:50 # Show original
@kot_nastya: No, I thought I heard him commanding the offensive.
myhavkedah
myhavkedah
09 Jul 07:41 # Show original
And what is his armor made of that the dragon flame didn't melt? Well, I mean, I understand that since they don't melt, they must be made of Valyrian steel. But where does it come from so much that just everyone has armor made of it? I thought only Aegon was wearing that kind of armor.
lenala
lenala
10 Jul 00:15 # Show original
@myhavkedah: Valyrian spraying))
Kentavr
Kentavr
10 Jul 06:15 # Show original
@myhavkedah: come on, more armor. There's a banner shaft left.
alisunov
alisunov
11 Jul 14:52 # Show original
@Nog: This moment is very reminiscent of Sarah Connor's doomsday dream from Terminator 2
limbo
limbo
14 Jul 07:29 #
@Nog: сильный момент от прогульщиков физики в пятом классе для прогульщиков физики в пятом классе, да

хинт: гуглим температуру обугливания человеческого тела и температуру плавления стали (хотя там рядом даже нетронутое копьё с деревянным древком, сукааааа)
Nonelementary
Nonelementary
08 Jul 12:15 # Show original
These Damon trips are encouraging me to reconsider the Sopranos. I kept waiting for him to ask Lane.
— How much do you weigh?
— 8 pounds.
— I've lost a lot of weight.
— I'm flying. The best exercise, all muscle groups work.

Indeed, finally an interesting episode, but it's sad that the best moments of the series are the battles of computer models. In the IP, dragons were not in the first place at all, and not in the second. They were just the cherry on a very tasty cake of political intrigues and wars. And here it is literally the only thing that prevents the viewer from tearing his mouth from yawning. Oh, the dragon battles have begun, and finally the acceleration from 2x can be returned back to normal. Sadly.

And DD does not disclose other houses and their conflicts at all. In the IP, you were involved in absolutely everyone, you knew everyone by name, you chose favorites, Arryns, Tully, Freys, Greyjoys, not to mention the capital ones. Except that only the Martells were crumpled up at the end.
And here, without reading the book, purely from the series, you won't even understand what kind of Blackwoods, who are the Blackwoods, what kind of graters they have. I don't give a shit. Give me computer graphics already, I want to watch dragons for five minutes. It's as if no one exists in this universe except the Targs, and a rare Tully or Stark flashes purely for the fanservice.
sonarana
sonarana
08 Jul 14:41 # Show original
@Nonelementary: Well, the series is literally called "House of the Dragon", you don't need to expect from it the scale of the IP both in terms of the plot and in terms of the houses involved. In IP, we had global conflicts, here the Targs, their family feuds, because this is their story directly, while others play episodic roles, like the same Stark, for example (up to a certain point), just someone more, someone less. These are completely different stories.
PianoOnTheLake
PianoOnTheLake
09 Jul 15:15 # Show original
@Nonelementary: Let the existing ones be revealed normally rather than be scattered like that.
Scandias
Scandias
15 Jul 21:36 # Show original
@Nonelementary: I watched IP without books, it was also unclear for a long time what kind of houses were around)) the further you go, the better you remember, but in the second season? Pf.
10anya_d
10anya_d
08 Jul 12:20 # Show original
The first part of the series was unrealistically already starting to get carried away with all these conversations about nothing...Alicent decided at the time to come to her senses about the correctness of her thoughts, as if this would change something now... Damon, stuck in this castle.. Rainier, who was not confused by why Kohl's army so brazenly decided to attack the coastal lands near her castle in the afternoon, and sent only Rainis ...
But thank you, the dragon battle brightened up this series, although it was clear that it would end in tragedy... The solar fire was very beautiful.. Meleis - to tears, of course... but it was wiser to fly away after the Sunfire fell and not engage in a single-handed battle with the Vhagar... but let's remember Rainis as one of the brave and valiant warriors, along with her fearless Meleis((
id140630607
id140630607
08 Jul 13:26 # Show original
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Chous
Chous
13 Jul 22:21 # Show original
@id140630607: so many minuses have been instructed, but I agree, "no adult" Rainira, a completely amoebic character, just walks and purses her lips like an old grandmother, no former fire, no Targaryen craziness, no thirst for power, nothing
msokol
msokol
08 Jul 13:29 # Show original
God, how I roared on stage with Rainis and Meleis. How beautifully her connection with the dragon was shown, even when they were falling, and Meleis looked at her LIKE that... as if she understood everything, she knew that both of them were about to meet their deaths. Together... "We're going to battle again, old lady." It's sad to know that this is their last battle. Rainice died like a true heroine, bravely and bravely. She fought with dignity and did everything she could. Meleis, like a dragon, is very beautiful, it is not for nothing that she is called the Red Queen (fragment from the book): "Meleis appeared above the Rook Shelter, nicknamed the Red Queen for her scarlet scales. Her crest, horns and claws shone like polished copper, and the wing membranes were pink."
starPilot
starPilot
08 Jul 14:09 # Show original
Of course, caste is a separate pain here, Alicent and Aegon look like they are the same age, which is generally true (30 and 29 years old). It's just a facepalm.
yaninka91
yaninka91
08 Jul 14:47 # Show original
Do not forget that Alicent gave birth to him at 16, and Aegon is now, roughly speaking, 20 years old
starPilot
starPilot
08 Jul 21:21 # Show original
@yaninka91: I'm trying to make allowances for this, but it seems to me that they don't look like these years, unfortunately. I don't know what the problem was with getting someone younger to play Aegon. I remember Cersei with Joffrey, and it was quite convincing and organic there, but here it hurts my eyes.
yaninka91
yaninka91
08 Jul 21:44 # Show original
No, I agree with you, in fact, it could have been done differently. although I don't mind this flaw, because I like the actors' acting and I just pretend that I don't care about their age 😅
PianoOnTheLake
PianoOnTheLake
09 Jul 15:18 # Show original
@starPilot: Alicent could easily be given 40. A beautiful, well-preserved woman of forty. I know a lot of people who look like that.
Hidji
Hidji
09 Jul 15:27 # Show original
@PianoOnTheLake: in our time. And here is the medieval era, when even the monarchs after 30 were pulling for the current fifty kopecks, and the peasants were like pensioners at all). The harshest times.
PianoOnTheLake
PianoOnTheLake
09 Jul 16:00 # Show original
@Hidji: It's a common opinion, but I don't agree with it. People look different at any time, no matter what, and they feel the same way. The heroes of the film "The Last Duel", for example, according to this logic, should have been considered very old (about 55 years old) and put someone in their place, but they withstood an hour-long judicial duel, and before that GG was fighting with might and main. You can't tell from the portraits that everyone looked old either.
Well, in the end, here is a fantasy world with all sorts of valuable potions. ^^
Hidji
Hidji
09 Jul 16:10 # Show original
@PianoOnTheLake: so I'm not saying that they looked and felt like 120 at fifty kopecks or even like a self-propelled grandfather, a warrior remains a warrior). But outwardly, yes, older than his age. And then Scott screwed up. According to Napoleon, it is clear that he has his own view and does not like when mistakes are pointed out to him. Plus, portraits are complimentary in 99.9% of cases. And valuable potions in practice usually, on the contrary, greatly shorten life))).
nonaems
nonaems
10 Jul 00:51 # Show original
@starPilot: In the IP, the actors did not have to play characters at different ages, so the cast looks more convincing. Although Alicent could have been aged a little with makeup, she looked too fresh.
PianoOnTheLake
PianoOnTheLake
10 Jul 15:32 # Show original
@Hidji: In the "Last Duel" Scott is not that older, the Driver was 37 at the time of filming... But in "Napoleon" it's old, but for some reason the audience was not happy and did not say that the young GG looks right " for his time".)) (Although for many, the Middle Ages and the 19th century are just those times.)
Yes, indeed, you did not talk about well-being, it's just that usually two statements go in one bottle.))
I doubt very much about the notorious complimentarity of portraits. Firstly, specifically medieval portraits (before the Renaissance) are so ugly that it simply cannot be worse. )) Secondly, many people described by contemporaries as handsome and beautiful, even later portraits look rather ordinary or repulsive, and not only because of unusual hairstyles (if we nod to the taste of that time, then why are other handsome men of the same era really good for us?). Thirdly, a person still wants to be remembered close to what is in life. Even warts are drawn on many realistic portraits of noble persons! Well, let's say some kind of pimple was not depicted, so they will try to remove it in the photo. I think the portraits were usually either similar to the originals, or just worse - due to the elementary ineptitude of medieval artists or the author's vision. And the improvements are insignificant. And no one would play the old man as a boy.
If magic potions are ineffective in the fantasy world, why should we believe that modern skin and health care generally bear any fruit? Not to mention that not everyone is doing this. The only thing that has clearly won in recent centuries is teeth. Harsh life - it is still harsh for many, and even more severe than for all the unfortunate princesses and queens. Alicent didn't even give birth to 12-14 children here, but only 3, and she didn't have to work.
Hidji
Hidji
10 Jul 17:50 # Show original
@PianoOnTheLake: you can also conduct a comparative analysis of age groups based on photographs from the late 19th century, mid-20th century and modern ones to understand how big the difference is even over the last 150 years. So you can continue to deny significant changes, but they are obvious already in such a short period of time. At the same time, it is not only historians who have already accepted as an axiom that the medieval stage was the most severe and difficult for humanity in terms of physical exhaustion, even in comparison with earlier ones, from antiquity and almost to the Paleolithic itself.
Hidji
Hidji
10 Jul 17:55 # Show original
@PianoOnTheLake: Oh, and about potions). Because it's mercury, cadmium, arsenic and other "goodies" in the composition))). Oh, these fairy tales, oh, these storytellers😄
PianoOnTheLake
PianoOnTheLake
11 Jul 15:22 # Show original
@Hidji: People who were not used to being photographed stood with expressions that did not paint them at all. Plus a long exposure... Not everyone can stand it! )) And in the pictures themselves, there were often such chiaroscuro that our contemporaries would look old. I'm not saying that we tried to save photos of any quality, even those that turned out very badly - still a rare and valuable thing. And now most of the pictures go straight to the virtual trash.
It's easy to nod at the axioms, but it's not worth it. Let them prove that a medieval princess is physically exhausted more than a modern migrant worker. ))
PianoOnTheLake
PianoOnTheLake
11 Jul 15:23 # Show original
@Hidji: In the IP world? Have you seen the recipes?
PianoOnTheLake
PianoOnTheLake
11 Jul 15:41 # Show original
@Hidji: In the Middle Ages, mercury was used, in the XIX century - arsenic, in the XX - radioactive substances... Let's see how our descendants will laugh at us.
ihalesia
ihalesia
13 Jul 15:30 # Show original
At least Alicent could have been braided. Loose hair makes you look younger. A headdress would add age.
Back in IP, Cersei's short hair was terribly infuriating. You're the queen. You're a Lannister. Any hats at your feet for any money, just wish. No, I'll wear my hair short. A widow, a mother, a queen.
MariaTsvetkova
MariaTsvetkova
09 Jul 02:01 # Show original
well, my sister gave birth at 17, now she's 36, her son is 19, and together they look about the same as Alicent and Aegon, so I quite believe)
Hidji
Hidji
09 Jul 02:49 # Show original
@MariaTsvetkova: and my sister also has a younger son of 15-16 years old, who looks older than his mother?))) It's just that Eamond looks almost the same age as Damon.😆
new_sha2015
new_sha2015
09 Jul 08:46 # Show original
@Hidji: on the contrary, it seems to me that he looks very young, younger than Eamond
EyeOfTheRaven
EyeOfTheRaven
PRO
09 Jul 08:52 # Show original
@Hidji well, you're already making that up for yourself. Ewen is 27 years old (26 at the time of filming) and he doesn't look like the same age as Matt, who is 41.
Hidji
Hidji
09 Jul 13:00 # Show original
@SantaJul: Millie Bobby Brown is also a young girl, and viewers from all over the world imagined themselves😁 And then, in any case, he looks clearly more than the character. Anyway.
MaxReveur
MaxReveur
11 Jul 02:26 # Show original
@starPilot: so Aegon's lifestyle is far from healthy: alcohol, unhealthy food, etc. At any age, when abused, a person will look older than his years.
averli
averli
13 Jul 21:18 # Show original
he just drinks a lot, his life is hard, so he got old ahead of time
sonarana
sonarana
08 Jul 14:34 # Show original
I can't watch dragons get hurt(((((
"We're going to battle again, old lady". How Meleis looked at her rider before closing her eyes, and how Rainis came to terms with the fact that she was dying with her dragon, it's all so tragic and beautiful, and even on her birthday (Rainis was born on the seventh day of the seventh month). And the teaser for the next episode is already hurting.

And poor Sunny Fire, how he got it. What a sweet scene when, before flying out to battle, he poked his muzzle into Aegon's chest (and then covered his body with a wing, barely breathing himself (And those screams of pain when he was wounded and when he fell with a singed wing, baby(

I didn't expect to feel so sorry for Aegon this season. First, his mother forcibly makes him king, then admits that she does not expect anything from him, and he just has to sit silently on the throne. Behind his back, his right hand and brother discuss strategies without telling him anything, and when he finally sees Aymond joining him in a fight with Meleis, and is glad that he is not alone, he gets "drakaris" in the face (which is quite expected from the serial Aymond, if honestly). Let's see where the writers take this line next.
Aegon's attempts to respond in Valyrian to tears. And I also laughed with "no, I want Harrenhal back", he would have stamped his foot :D

Jace is finally getting more screen time. I liked how angry he was at his mother's decisions, realizing how dangerous it was.

Learn to accept rejection like Blackwood, who remained loyal to Rainier.
Do not drink the strange liquids that the witch in the cursed castle offers you.
And don't drive drunk... Into the dragon's saddle.
sonarana
sonarana
08 Jul 14:50 # Show original
Your mother must have been very beautiful. What is this, confirmation that she and her brother are Corliss's bastards?
fairyfoxxy
fairyfoxxy
08 Jul 16:21 #
@sonarana: да🥲
11Whocares11
11Whocares11
08 Jul 21:43 # Show original
And at that moment, Corliss himself appears from behind, so that the viewer has a glimpse of their similarity... I wonder why they reveal this line to us
shizuoasa
shizuoasa
09 Jul 01:58 # Show original
@11Whocares11: How is this for what? So that later the viewer would not have any questions about why these two brothers rode dragons.
limbo
limbo
14 Jul 07:33 #
@sonarana: чисто ради интереса, ты тоже считаешь дракона котиком?
gkalian
gkalian
08 Jul 14:44 # Show original
The first half of the series is too conversational, but the second one was pleased with the epic and powerful battle of dragons. And really, it's not for nothing that the series was called the Dance of Dragons. However, it seemed to me that Aegon should have lived a longer life, and not throw himself into guilt and drunkenly climb a dragon. I told you, Alicent, don't do anything.

Meleis and Reinis are sorry, although I did not really understand why it was necessary to return back, Vhagar is an order of magnitude larger, more powerful and stronger, this is understandable initially.
fairyfoxxy
fairyfoxxy
08 Jul 16:24 # Show original
@gkalian: Probably, Rainice just wanted to finish everything to the end. How many times have they pointed a finger at her, saying that she would have beaten everyone at the coronation, there would have been no problems and blah blah. I think she knew perfectly well that she couldn't win against Vhagar, she just didn't back down(
gkalian
gkalian
08 Jul 16:45 # Show original
@fairyfoxxy: Well, this is somehow wrong, now she has caused a lot of damage to one of the green dragons, I don't think anyone would blame her if she flew away from the Vhagar.
Nastya2416
Nastya2416
08 Jul 18:25 # Show original
Aegon is still alive, according to the canon. And Rhaenys didn't want to seem like a coward who was afraid to confront Vhagar.
noir_character
noir_character
09 Jul 21:58 # Show original
@Nastya2416: I also think that she did it out of principle + her husband's betrayal was crippled, which she found out about almost right before the battle.

Reinice is of the old school, all previous episodes showed us that she respects traditions (despite external discontent, she even accepted that she did not become a queen, and in fact always supported her brother and his further choice). To escape from the battlefield with such a character, even if it is more profitable in the long run, would be dishonorable for her, especially now, when Black is suffering defeat after defeat.

I also suspect that she also did this for the sake of motivation for her colleagues - after all, if the most experienced dragon rider of the Blacks escapes and does not even try to confront Vhagar, what chance do the rest have.. Despite the fact that Rainira has more dragons, most of them are very young, and the riders have no normal combat experience at all. Right now, only Damon can compete with Eamond there.
Jmann
Jmann
08 Jul 14:46 # Show original
The best episode of the series is definitely, and even within the universe, one of the best episodes can even be compared with Game of Thrones.
Mrs_Bennington
Mrs_Bennington
08 Jul 15:00 # Show original
I like the way Rainis and Rainira communicate without words, with just looks

Reinis and Meleis, the beauties 💔💔💔

Damon, are you serious?! Why did you drink that stuff?!

Kohl, as always, is pathetic, and Alicent, as always, is the mother of the year 🤦🏻♀️
kobiii
kobiii
PRO
08 Jul 16:06 # Show original
The Dragon Dance was waiting, it turned out beautifully, but damn, how dragons kill each other is terrible to watch, I feel sorry for them, Sanfair is so handsome, another moment with Meleis and a last look at Rainis.. In general, it was shot cool (thanks for the fight in the afternoon), but it's unpleasant to watch.

It's funny how while there's such a commotion, Damon is dealing with ghosts in Harrenhal. Well, I liked Blackwood, loyal to Rainier, despite the refusal, not like the rat kohl.

In general, dragons are powerful, as long as they not only show such things, but also have more moments like Aegon and Sunfire, after all, one moment with hugs does not show their strong connection so well.
a1096148
a1096148
08 Jul 16:31 # Show original
Did Aegon die or did he just chill?
shishkina_vika
shishkina_vika
08 Jul 16:36 # Show original
No, according to the plot, he should not die, he should get very severe burns and injuries. According to the book, so, but even in the teaser for the next episode, they hint that he is alive. And the Solar Fire must also survive (I really hope), which is why you can hear his breathing at the end of the series.
opheliozz
opheliozz
08 Jul 19:05 # Show original
@a1096148: I'm sorry, of course, but at first it seemed to me that there was a flurry, as if the kebab was already ready.;
krook
krook
09 Jul 00:44 # Show original
@opheliozz: That's a squirt of yogo papyroska (c)
neykluja
neykluja
09 Jul 09:44 #
@krook: 😁🔥
VestaSB
VestaSB
08 Jul 16:56 # Show original
I like this season more than 1 time in 100 I love the series of dialogues, there is also such a battle at the end that is breathtaking, the director just did his job perfectly as always
apb48
apb48
08 Jul 17:16 # Show original
"Recklessness is bad. But I think it's a sin to deny yourself pleasure.😕🙂 Of course, we remember Lord Laris's pleasure in relation to Alicent. 😃

"What am I supposed to do, Mom?"
- Just what is required of you. Nothing.

Here he is in "response", sitting on a dragon - did nothing. The result is extremely deplorable. You can't say such things head-on to an adult man, even if he's your son, and especially to the king.
opheliozz
opheliozz
08 Jul 19:19 # Show original
@apb48: not even in response, but stupidly offended that others are playing war games, making some responsible decisions, doing something important and getting the respect of others for it, and they tell him to get off the table. he, like a young royal, only shines with a crown on drunkenness and nothing really depends on him and few people listen to him.

I decided to sort of show who is the boss in the house.))) (it would be better to die, literally)
nonaems
nonaems
10 Jul 01:00 # Show original
@apb48: gt;You can't say such things head-on to an adult man
If, after some words, a man went on a reckless attack, then this is a boy, not a man. His mother literally gave him the most valuable advice in his situation - if you are a fool, let your subjects do everything for you. After that, the boy did the opposite with a known result.
voronrun
voronrun
08 Jul 17:33 # Show original
Give a fool a dragon, he'll smash his forehead.
stella_la
stella_la
15 Jul 23:34 # Show original
Ahahaha took it off my tongue
Andmeril
Andmeril
08 Jul 17:36 # Show original
When dragons are pitied more than people.
I've been walking away from the episode for half a day now.
Jinx
Jinx
08 Jul 19:42 # Show original
@Andmeril: I looked at it in the morning and my eyes are still wet, now in a week of mourning ... and judging by the trailer for the next episode, then this mourning will last for another week
Eigetsu
Eigetsu
08 Jul 17:42 # Show original
I feel sorry for my grandmother... 😭
karinabuzia
karinabuzia
PRO
08 Jul 18:16 # Show original
Eamond is a cunning son of a bitch.
porco
porco
08 Jul 18:21 # Show original
Aegon both lived sinfully and died ridiculously.
Nastya2416
Nastya2416
08 Jul 18:28 # Show original
Unfortunately, he didn't die.
KrokodilGena12
KrokodilGena12
08 Jul 18:40 # Show original
Well, finally, the very thing went for which this series was conceived. Only 14 episodes needed to be watched, such a small plot)))
The Battle of dragons is of course unrealistically powerful. However, the bar of expectations was low, because in the TV universe there was only 1 full-fledged dragon battle scene (the death of Luceris does not count, there was no battle) - the dark one in the final season, where nothing is visible and in which the KN was merged.
And here I really liked how Eamond and Kolya work together, muddy secret plans. After all, political intrigue is also very interesting, not riding on the same dragons
Nog
Nog
08 Jul 18:54 # Show original
@KrokodilGena12: they now have to rule the whole kingdom for a couple, in fact, without a king. Aegon, if he survived, was too hurt to perform his duties. So the policy must continue.
KrokodilGena12
KrokodilGena12
08 Jul 19:25 # Show original
@Nog: yes, yes, that's what I thought right away when they showed Aegon lying down. What, like if he dies, then Eamond will sit on the throne? And then who will be the right hand? will he bring Grandfather Otto back or leave Kolya? judging by how effectively they worked together, it would rather be the 2nd option. but from the comments, I understood that Aegon survived, which means there is no choice and everything will remain as it was. Only now will these two gain even more power
shizuoasa
shizuoasa
09 Jul 02:13 # Show original
@Nog: nothing happened to him, the scar will remain on his face and that's it.
shizuoasa
shizuoasa
09 Jul 02:15 # Show original
@KrokodilGena12: Aymond is a fighting force, and he will remain one. He won't see the crown, and Aegon's face is just a little singed, I think after his brother's betrayal, his brains will fall into place a little. (although according to the canon, Eamond did not and would not do so)
EyeOfTheRaven
EyeOfTheRaven
PRO
09 Jul 08:10 # Show original
@shizuoasa well, actually, I see. He will be regent for a whole year. And Aegon not only had his face singed, but half of his body, he was in so much pain that he was constantly under poppy milk.
Sigizmund
Sigizmund
09 Jul 08:57 # Show original
@SantaJul: that's why throw even bookish spoilers? So that we are not interested in watching it?
EyeOfTheRaven
EyeOfTheRaven
PRO
09 Jul 12:53 # Show original
@Siguzmund sorry, I got carried away😞
PianoOnTheLake
PianoOnTheLake
09 Jul 15:27 # Show original
@Sigizmund: It is quite possible that everything will be different here.
Jeronimoo
Jeronimoo
08 Jul 18:54 # Show original
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Jeronimoo
Jeronimoo
08 Jul 18:55 # Show original
Really a very chic, beautiful and strong episode!Finally, the struggle and the civil war, the scenes with dragons are just incredibly strong and so beautiful!God, Rainice, I just didn't have the words, I felt so sorry for her, I loved her so much, she really was one of Rainira's loyal allies and friends...I watched at night and cried, I just can't explain in words how painful and bitter it is!She is a really strong woman and a heroine, she fought with all the strength of her soul!The battle of the dragons brightened up the episode very much, although I did not expect it to end in tragedy at all... The solar fire is very beautiful.. Meleis is incredibly sad, of course... I will never forget Rainis, her connection with the dragon is very strong, she is insanely brave and valiant like a real warrior!!!I can't believe she's gone, I just can't believe I'm crying!!!I didn't like the communication of Rainira and Rainis so much, they are both very strong and wonderful heroines, sometimes they even understand everything with just looks without owls!!I just admire both Emma and Eve Best endlessly!!!It's a great pity and there are no words for dragons!!!!I still haven't moved away from all these events!!
Danusha0803
Danusha0803
10 Jul 15:00 # Show original
Rainier and I are sorry, I was left without such support. Her advice about nothing, not even Rainis's little finger is worth it (
Jeronimoo
Jeronimoo
08 Jul 18:56 # Show original
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Jeronimoo
Jeronimoo
08 Jul 18:57 # Show original
Damon, there are no words!But I am very glad to see Millie again, how beautiful and talented she is, I love her very much!And how I missed Valyrian, it's very beautiful!!
opheliozz
opheliozz
08 Jul 19:04 # Show original
I stand in solidarity with Lord Darklin, who spat at Kohl's feet. She applauded.

well, Alicent talked to her son, finally telling him head-on what is required of him, such a fool, when he has a crown on his head, that is, someone else.)) and the Council will do everything for him. I've been waiting for such a conversation.

Wow, and how Vhagar rose smartly in the middle of the forest - it took my breath away! and how it slowly rose from the horizon, like a thundercloud.

In the human war, of course, the most insulting thing was for the dragons, that they had to carry their riders. I didn't quite understand why Rainis turned on the big dragon after the battle with the king, but it was clear from her face that she understood exactly what she was going to lose here. It's just - why kill yourself and your beautiful Meleis.
Celesgosa
Celesgosa
10 Jul 12:54 # Show original
@opheliozz: It's his mother's disgusting attitude that's the reason Aegon grew up the way he did. And now, because of her treatment, he also almost died. From your point of view, is it really appropriate to conduct a dialogue in this way? She herself had said at first that he should ask her and Otto for advice. He went forward and asked for advice. And she sent him a fuck in response. " Don't do anything" - this is not advice. This indifference is complete. Because of this, he flew into battle out of grief, because he feels that his mother does not appreciate him at all. Because of her cruel response. Let me remind you that he did not want to become king at all. She put him on the throne against his wishes, and now she hisses that he's a shitty king. So teach me. Teach him to be a good king, and don't tell him he has to do nothing. But she has no time to raise her son - she is too busy communicating closely with Kohl.
opheliozz
opheliozz
10 Jul 15:11 # Show original
@Celesgosa: You're right there, I didn't think about it at all.
I saw this scene from the perspective of the fact that none of those around him can directly point out to him that he is creating infantile game and that it should be done royally so that they consider him smart, and only a mother can correct his decent behavior.
because appearing in battle on an inept dragon is dementia and courage, it is much more rational to stay out of enemy action and command. or, in his case, to pretend to be in command when everything has already been decided for you.
id16138560
id16138560
08 Jul 19:10 # Show original
I almost feel sorry for Aegon. A self-confident fool, it's a pity that he didn't die. But maybe at least his brother's betrayal will morally kill him. At the end of the episode, it seems that Eamond took out a sword, as if he wanted to finish off his brother, and then Kohl came up. Is it true or just imagined?
shizuoasa
shizuoasa
09 Jul 02:12 # Show original
@id16138560: It didn't seem like it. But why the screenwriters are reshaping the canon is unclear. According to the canon, Meleis singed him, not Aymond.
fairyfoxxy
fairyfoxxy
09 Jul 05:45 # Show original
@shizuoasa: serial Eamond could have burned his brother for all the good things. He bullied him, he humiliated him terribly in front of everyone in a brothel, he recklessly flew into battle without knowing anything about the plan. All this has been superimposed like a pebble on a pebble since childhood. If the book brothers had love or at least respect for each other, then this is not in the DD. And this is the perfect moment to get even, there is no one else in the sky except them, Aymond can say that he shot Rainis, and Aegon was just hurt and in general it was his own fault, he climbed drunk and even on a young dragon, he ruined the whole plan for them.
The fact that it was fired at the end, it is very interesting how it is deployed. Again, it depends on the personality of Kohl: it is better not to quarrel with Eamond, as it is better to tell the right hand, at the council or with Eamond, because after the death of Aegon, he will sit on the throne
MaxReveur
MaxReveur
11 Jul 02:32 # Show original
@shizuoasa: they are redrawing, it is necessary that different people on all sorts of maishous and other reddits do not write comments in the spirit of " and I read in the book \wiki that it will be like this ". For everyone can read, but you need to help keep silent.
feniksoflove
feniksoflove
08 Jul 19:11 # Show original
Oh, the fire has gone 🔥🔥🔥
I feel terribly sorry for the dragons, yes...
I didn't really understand why she turned around either, it's obvious that she's going to lose.
And maybe, somehow, information about the arson by the king's brother could be usefully used.
But come on)
Nog
Nog
08 Jul 19:33 # Show original
Aegon the cat))
Sigizmund
Sigizmund
09 Jul 06:45 # Show original
@Nog: I've been waiting for this comment)
ChazyKsun
ChazyKsun
08 Jul 19:41 # Show original
There are three things that are painful to look at on the screen: 1. How children and animals die 2. How your favorite hero leaves 3. How dragons fall 🥲
aten_mr
aten_mr
08 Jul 19:49 #
Epic.
Saintanastasiaa
Saintanastasiaa
08 Jul 19:50 # Show original
How painful it is to see dragons fighting
Jinx
Jinx
08 Jul 19:56 # Show original
Probably, it is not worth asking how such a machine as Vhagar was able to take off at all, especially at the moment when he and one-eye went wild in the forest, and it is not particularly possible to swing such a dragon on the field. A sad picture, of course, we will have to eat glass many more times, we are preparing empaths(
Rina-Екатерина
Rina-Екатерина
08 Jul 20:00 # Show original
Black 💔
Reinis...well, why...
garbisik
garbisik
08 Jul 20:06 # Show original
Eamond is like: minus two, yoo-hoo!) 🤘😇
Cry_to_Heaven
Cry_to_Heaven
08 Jul 20:11 # Show original
- Rainis volunteered herself and did not back down herself. The most powerful character in the series, it seems to me, is her story on the level of the tragedy of the Cargill brothers.
- How Meleis, being half the size, bravely fought with Vhagar. A little more and Rainice would have had every chance.
- Millie Elcock looks even younger this season than in the past, she's just a girl!
- Eamond seems to have a bipolar point. At first he feels sorry for his nephew and he cries on the chest of a sex worker, and then just like that he makes a fight for his brother. I like the psychopath Eamond, but I would like to understand a little more the extent of his insanity.
"Jace is his mother's son. And how beautifully Rhaenyra had conveyed the prophecy to him. If anyone could connect the horror beyond the Wall and Aegon's dream of a Song of Ice and Fire, it would be Jace. He would make a great king.
- Aegon's transition from a useless drunkard on the throne to practically kamikaze is well shown, because going against Meleis on such a young dragon is absolute madness.
- The book canon is going smoothly, albeit with changes. It is very interesting what will happen next with the characters.
kathrine_adams
kathrine_adams
08 Jul 20:37 # Show original
It was powerful! I've been waiting for the battle of the dragons for the whole series and was satisfied. One can, of course, complain that Rhaenys could have flown away after she had battered the Sunfire and raked away from the Vhagar, but she decided to make another dash. Boldly. Rainis was not my favorite hero, and I would even say that this season I did not see any usefulness from her, but everything was shown right cool here - both the fight, and her last glances with Meleis, and the fall. Eamond is cool on Vhagar as always, while this couple looks invincible. They even hid epically in the bushes))) Aegon had done a hell of a thing by flying into the battlefield, but that was to be expected from an impatient young king who was being brushed off by everyone in his own castle. Eh, you should have listened to your mother, Aegon...
Kohl's passing through the battlefield is also good. They showed how this dragon nightmare looks from the ground. There are so many burnt bodies and ashes around. Both humans and dragons are incredibly sorry that they fell there. Another interesting moment was when he reached Aegon, and there was Aymond with a sword. Another seed to think about whether Eamond wanted to finish off his brother or not)) After all, Eamond is now the heir to the throne.
Damon gave himself over to his gals. That's how the roof goes when you shake the depths of your soul every night.
I also liked that Jace finally spoke up, demanded some answers from Rainira. It's time for him to gain independence.
kathrine_adams
kathrine_adams
08 Jul 20:41 # Show original
I forgot to give a separate respect for the battle in daylight. Finally, thanks)))
larkivanx
larkivanx
PRO
08 Jul 21:11 # Show original
Nooo 😭😭😭 Such relief, satisfaction, gratitude to Meleis in Rhaenys' eyes after the battle, and then...💔💔💔 Very, very sorry 🥺
Hannah_Abbot
Hannah_Abbot
PRO
08 Jul 22:33 # Show original
That's what I was surprised about after the last episode, when I heard Kondall say that they (Aegon and co.) dug out Valyrian steel armor from the closet (!) - such an amount of precious metal should have been in the red corner at all, and not vegetate in the vault, and even Aegon the Conqueror from Valyria - a discrepancy Aegon the First was born a hundred years after her fall.
Finally, we were shown the Solar One - when it was impossible not to show it, because the flight of Aegon during the coronation was clamped down on us. But I also managed to make fun of dragons this season, because yesterday I was reviewing Jurassic Park, and the color calibration just seemed to stay there, so you can see how the dragons were cut out along the contour and shoved in, as if they were making a collage of different materials, by God.
But now we know that Sunny is a biligual dragon, learned for the sake of his master, alas.
Damon's gals are quite pleasant, he has a good branch in the atmosphere now, but it's kind of stupid to take drinks from the hands of a witch, we don't need to travel to the next world yet.
The way Rainira confessed with all the advice where she was going - this series is just a comedy, I can't take it seriously. There are 0 days without mentioning the prophecy, I want to rewind every time they start playing this hurdy-gurdy, as if the usurpation of Rainira is insufficient motivation, and she definitely needs a Great Goal.
The only plus is the actors, they are straight cats (especially when they drop objects from the table), but there are still questions for Condall and Hess.
EyeOfTheRaven
EyeOfTheRaven
PRO
08 Jul 22:42 # Show original
Well, here is the first episode for which you can praise.

I really feel sorry for the dragons, their screams - I wanted to make the sound quieter, because it was really painful to hear😭 All the dragons are great, I don't know how I'll survive the death of the others.

Aymond has finally shown himself to be a really good strategist and their Valyrian is so beautiful.

I didn't quite understand, but when did Meleis have time to fight with Rainis? Her phrase before the flight sounded strange.

I don't think Eamond had a specific purpose in killing his brother. Rather, it was a necessary sacrifice for him or something.
Nog
Nog
09 Jul 00:33 # Show original
@SantaJul: The combat experience of Reienis and Meleis is not disclosed in the book either. One can only assume that they participated in battles with pirates or fleets of the cities of Essos. The Velaryons were constantly fighting with someone on the seas.
Although it would not have added experience in dragon fights, but Rhaenys planned only to drive the ordinary army away from the Rookery.
EyeOfTheRaven
EyeOfTheRaven
PRO
09 Jul 01:16 # Show original
@Nog thank you. And then I thought that somewhere I had not finished reading something, because I also do not remember that there was anything like that in the book. Meleis did not fight with Alissa either.
PianoOnTheLake
PianoOnTheLake
09 Jul 15:31 # Show original
@SantaJul: "Rather, it was a necessary sacrifice for him or something." Well, no, it's unlikely. It just suddenly struck him that he could take advantage of the situation and become king.
princess_tisha
princess_tisha
08 Jul 22:47 # Show original
The best episode of this season so far!
Eamond has revealed himself in this series very much!
Pearlshed
Pearlshed
08 Jul 22:48 # Show original
My viewing level of the series
I show the fakie to the screen when Kolya appears 🤣
Yes, I think it's very adult.
Ittanni
Ittanni
09 Jul 02:18 # Show original
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Ittanni
Ittanni
09 Jul 02:18 # Show original
I'm not the only one doing this😅
Hidji
Hidji
09 Jul 02:53 # Show original
@Pearlshed: I have a friend who, while watching, every time DiCaprio points his finger at the screen from a meme picture and shouts "Shl..Ha!"like a bear from another meme😁😁😁
-TraumfraU-
-TraumfraU-
08 Jul 23:14 #
Embers still remain.
Moon62
Moon62
PRO
08 Jul 23:19 # Show original
Alicent breaks the bottom again: it takes so much time to discuss Rainier's bastards, and then to get knocked up by the nastiest guy (rags) in the world, Kriston Kohl, is strong.
10anya_d
10anya_d
09 Jul 00:45 # Show original
@vk645210: em.... So she didn't give birth to him... and I interrupted everything with contraceptive tea... I think that was the only way out in those days..
PianoOnTheLake
PianoOnTheLake
09 Jul 15:34 # Show original
@10anya_d: "In those days" most often there was no such tea at hand. Therefore, they hid the pregnancy, gave birth and threw the baby into the monastery. (However, this is partly a feature of the Christian religion - to kill a fetus was the same sin as an already born child.)
shizuoasa
shizuoasa
09 Jul 02:09 # Show original
@vk645210: this is a tea that does not allow you to get pregnant, at that time there were no condoms, but they were used regularly.
Логин_уже_занят
Логин_уже_занят
09 Jul 13:10 # Show original
@shizuoasa: he doesn't let you get pregnant, he interrupts a pregnancy that has already occurred, these are slightly different things
resija
resija
10 Jul 19:40 # Show original
@Login_use: Actually, both. In Martin's world, moon tea is a remedy for both terminating and preventing pregnancy.
myhavkedah
myhavkedah
08 Jul 23:35 #
АААААААААААААААААААА!!!
GV_713
GV_713
08 Jul 23:56 # Show original
Watch on the big screen!!!!
linayurkova
linayurkova
09 Jul 00:18 # Show original
It saddens me very much that they are openly exposing Eamond to those who are capable of killing his brother in order to take his place. In the books, he still acted loyal and faithful, regardless of what he thought about Aegon and his rule..
Hidji
Hidji
09 Jul 00:30 # Show original
@linayurkova: in the film adaptation, he is rather exposed as a classic victim of bullying with broken brakes. Alas and ah, this is still a pure drama according to the scenario concept).
g1196015
g1196015
09 Jul 00:41 # Show original
The further into the forest... The series, starting with the second season, rolls towards Riverdale. The episodes of the first season were more capacious: I remember what happened in each one. Here, everyone just does what they say, either in dark rooms, or in plain sight, they sort things out. Conversations, half of which can be cut out and nothing will be lost. The actors are trying very hard to play, but there is nothing to play at all yet.

Brackens and Blackwoods — I understand that a parallel is needed for Targaryens, but in each episode to talk about them? When other lords and houses get attention for a few moments.
shizuoasa
shizuoasa
09 Jul 02:08 # Show original
@g1196015: Why not talk about them? These are the key figures of the book, the Blackwoods are generally the top army of the Rainier. They were singled out in the first season for a reason.
krook
krook
09 Jul 00:49 # Show original
This little castle is not far from Dragonstone. Well, why didn't Rainira and the other two dragons fly to the defense? 3 dragons would make a rustle and kill Vhagar (whether they knew about it or not).
fairyfoxxy
fairyfoxxy
09 Jul 05:49 # Show original
@krook: There is always a risk. You can foolishly lose all the dragons. If there were no Vhagars, they would have brought a scorpion. There's no point in fighting when all your dragons are dead.
Sei-sama
Sei-sama
09 Jul 00:55 # Show original
The series is great! It's just a pity that Rainis never uttered a Drakaris.
shizuoasa
shizuoasa
09 Jul 02:06 # Show original
@Sei-sama: Obviously, Aegon had only learned one word of Valyrian.
Sei-sama
Sei-sama
09 Jul 11:07 # Show original
@shizuoasa: And what does Aegon have to do with it if I'm talking about Rainis?
Tiinsa
Tiinsa
09 Jul 01:12 # Show original
Well, finally, what I'm watching this series for has happened. To be honest, halfway through the episode I already thought that Keane would not be there and was deceived again. But how wonderful it was! What power! You just feel like some kind of simple swordsman on a field over which dragons are fighting. My heart began to beat less frequently, like a metronome setting the pace of battle, it seemed to me that I even stopped breathing. Mere mortals were lucky enough to witness the battle of the Titans! Vhagar is just a mega bomb, slow on the rise, but deadly in the sky. It is coming inexorably, like an inexorable element. Meleis is experienced, fearless. How she fights with Vhagar, no doubt or hesitation! I gave her a good pat. The solar fire is young, hot, rushes into battle without looking back. You look at them and you realize that dragons like to fight, tear each other apart. Wild, unbridled power. And the riders on their backs are just an excuse to grab another dragon's throat.
hjarn
hjarn
09 Jul 01:15 # Show original
I feel sorry for the dragon: (If Aegon had been better eaten twice, he was extremely nasty, but Mileichka would have remained.
Eamond did well, two birds in one fell swoop.
shizuoasa
shizuoasa
09 Jul 02:04 # Show original
Strange attacks from the screenwriters regarding Eamond. Although I love him with all my heart, this is something incomprehensible to me. Then they whitewash him in previous episodes, ala he did not want to kill Luke, he regrets, he is sensitive (although according to the canon he wanted to, he also cut out his eye), then they make it so that he wants to kill his brother, first burned him, then he also wanted to finish him off in the end, if he had not come, so I would have decided (although in the book Aegon's face was corrected by Reinis and Meleis). The situation is unclear.

He laughed from the Valyrian Aegon, once again showed that he was not worthy of his chair and caused pity.
Ittanni
Ittanni
09 Jul 02:18 # Show original
Ramin Javadi is just incredible, this music during the dragon fight is just aaaaaaa delight! I felt so sorry for this little dragon, and Meleis looked at Rainis like that for the last time.
funnyfoxnaprimer
funnyfoxnaprimer
09 Jul 02:21 # Show original
It's a pity if I didn't rip..
AtomicTroll
AtomicTroll
09 Jul 03:01 # Show original
It's kind of like a hint from the screenwriters, what will Kohl end up with? Will his beautiful head fly off his shoulders?

PS: I feel sorry for the dragons
andrusha_ny
andrusha_ny
09 Jul 04:51 # Show original
Damn, it's not people I feel sorry for anymore, but dragons. They all used to live peacefully under the old kings and their children. And now the youngsters spoil everything, everything was clear initially about Kohl's plan (the most infuriating character, I'm waiting for him to die).
And there is no point in guessing that here she could have flown away, she had a chance - there it was already clear according to the canon that she would die. Rest in peace Reinis and Meleis.
I'm really waiting for Damon to cut off one-eye's last eye.
EyeOfTheRaven
EyeOfTheRaven
PRO
09 Jul 08:37 # Show original
I beg you, the Targs rarely lived peacefully. At least read about Major the Cruel.
Hidji
Hidji
09 Jul 13:10 # Show original
@SantaJul: In the same episode, Rainira says that her father left her a country that had lived in peace for 80 years, and she had to try to prolong it.Even for dragons, it's a long time.
Sigizmund
Sigizmund
09 Jul 06:58 # Show original
Eamond will probably kick himself in the chest with his heel in the next episode and prove that he set the king on fire so that Rainice wouldn't do it. Like he carefully took him out of the battle. Well, as carefully as the situation allowed. Technically, he saved me.

But I didn't understand. Aegon is Targaryen. Is it burning?
vkglen
vkglen
09 Jul 07:17 # Show original
@Sigizmund: The Targaryens do not have such a superpower, only Daenerys possessed it (in the series).
Cry_to_Heaven
Cry_to_Heaven
09 Jul 12:53 # Show original
@vkglen: In the book, Denis also possessed it, because she went into Drogo's campfire.
EyeOfTheRaven
EyeOfTheRaven
PRO
09 Jul 12:59 # Show original
@cry_to_heaven but this was an isolated incident as far as I know and it was not her ability, but some kind of magic.
Cry_to_Heaven
Cry_to_Heaven
09 Jul 15:41 # Show original
@SantaJul: It doesn't matter if it's a single one or not, but the ability is detected
opheliozz
opheliozz
09 Jul 07:48 # Show original
@Sigizmund: it seemed to me there during the celestial battle that yes, Aymond mb was aiming at Meleis after all, but he missed due to the slowness of warming up in the mouth of the Vhagar and already hit the wing of the Solar, those there with Meleis were spinning quite quickly.
there, even when Rainis flew away from this pile, she also exhaled, like dodged.

so Eamond has already made 2 similar mistakes - with Rainira's son and with his own brother. He can't really adjust the sights of the Vhagar.
EyeOfTheRaven
EyeOfTheRaven
PRO
09 Jul 08:14 # Show original
@opheliozz as for me, Eamond just decided that Aegon would be collateral damage if he didn't have time to dodge, but it was more important for him to take down Meleis
salvus_angel
salvus_angel
09 Jul 09:11 # Show original
He killed him on purpose. I think it was revenge for the fact that he humiliated him in front of all the prostitutes
salvus_angel
salvus_angel
09 Jul 09:08 # Show original
I'm the only one who's pissed off that Amord has the biggest dragon that you can't beat, and he doesn't even rightfully own it.
fairyfoxxy
fairyfoxxy
09 Jul 09:32 # Show original
@salvus_angel: Well, it doesn't belong...Vhagar accepted him, he tamed her. If she had had a clear idea in her head that Reina was her mistress, she would not have let Eamond near her or thrown him off.
Vhagar is bigger than everyone, yes, but it is also very, very ancient and, most likely, heals on it for a long time and it is slow. She ate Vermax and bit Meilis only because she has a mouth bigger than these dragons
EyeOfTheRaven
EyeOfTheRaven
PRO
09 Jul 12:52 # Show original
@salvus_angel by what right? No one has any rights to dragons here, if you can ride a dragon, it's yours. Aymond has ridden a free dragon, what are the questions?!
D_Jennifer_M
D_Jennifer_M
PRO
09 Jul 10:56 # Show original
I'm very sorry for the Dragons 😭
They make such a fool out of Egon...
ah_egorova
ah_egorova
09 Jul 19:24 #
@D_Jennifer_M: а мне понравился этот момент.дракон по сути единственное существо в Вестеросе,которому плевать король он или нет. хороший или плохой. да и Эйгон по-моему превый раз таки открыто и тепло улыбается в сериале. и как Солнечный огонь ткнулся ему в плечо <3
Scandias
Scandias
15 Jul 21:47 # Show original
@ah_egorova: That's why you wrote it, and it was so pathetic for a fool, and now doubly so
Mango__
Mango__
09 Jul 12:22 #
Пока это лучшая серия второго сезона, но даже в ней есть к чему придраться!
Зачем столько времени показывать как Алесента пьет отварчики, зачем вообще эти сцены были нужны. Надо было Эйгону после их разговора отправить ее вслед за Отто куда подальше.
Битва драконов - класс, то что мы ждали, но режиссеры и сценаристы явно поленились. Вместо того чтобы Рейнис использовать разницу в размерах и маневренности драконов, свой опыт драконьего наездника, показать нам, что у нее есть шанс в битве с Вхагар, чтобы мы уже поверили в то что Мейлис и Рейнис выйдут победителями из этой схватки и тут внезапная, эпичная атака Эймонда и все рушится. Вместо этого нам показывают как Рейнис сама осознает, что она проиграет и при этом она вместо того чтобы улететь возвращается на погибель.
Обожаю Деймона, побольше бы его галлюцинаций увидеть, надеюсь они не сведут его с ума. Очень понравились Джейс и Бейла на совете, наконец-то у них хоть какой-то голос появляется. Интересно как дальше будут выкручиваться после попытки Эймонда убить короля, по сути то это измена, его казнить после такого должны.
Надеюсь следующая серия не сбавит обороты!
Akdlv
Akdlv
09 Jul 12:27 # Show original
Is Alicent pregnant and drinking the same tea? 🍵
AtomicTroll
AtomicTroll
09 Jul 12:55 #
@Akdlv: да
scarcelyinside
scarcelyinside
09 Jul 13:01 # Show original
I get goosebumps every time Vhagar appears on the screen. I laughed when she sighed wearily, just like dogs do sometimes. She's such a granny. She just wants to lie down and eat sheep in packs, and then there's some kind of dragon dance. How did she get such aerodynamics with her size, as they show in the series. Melace should be more nimble, not to mention Sunfire, considering his age. And what a handsome one, eh.
I feel very sorry for the dragons. They also damn well show how dragons and riders get attached to each other: Sunfire behaves like a horse and pokes his muzzle at Aegon, Rhaenys calls Meleis an old lady, and these are their looks at each other at the end 💔🩹

Eamond, in general, I have such contradictory feelings for him.) For all his cruelty, he is interesting to watch, he is an excellent strategist. And the charisma is rushing out of all the cracks, this eternal grin of his is still there.
Aegon is such an impulsive fool. Well, he'll take something out of this case. So far, he's behaving like Damon in the first season: dementia and courage, he also wants to assert himself, but Damon was lucky, and he's not really an idiot (even though he's sleeping on a bed made of weirwood and drinking everything Alice gives him x2)
Btv. Damon with An eye patch? Awesome. Can I have more? 👉👈
And the same request about Jace. He's such a good, sincere boy.

Well, Rainis, who understands perfectly well that this fight is the last and there will be no other chance to beat Vhagar — this is a separate pain.

It is very satisfying to list the cast in the credits and at the end so modestly " and Sir Simon Russell Beale ". It seems that Simon is the first knight in the franchise's caste.))
lubik
lubik
09 Jul 15:28 # Show original
Eamond feels the same way.😜
MrVivor
MrVivor
09 Jul 13:41 # Show original
Rainice was a favorite hero among the blacks. Ehh, the actress is super. It's a pity that we won't see it again.
laurenjauregu1
laurenjauregu1
09 Jul 14:08 # Show original
Even though I knew Rainis was going to die, I was still so sad to watch it. 😭😭😭
demx
demx
09 Jul 14:44 # Show original
In addition to the heat in the sky, I would like to note two points.

A brave young kid from the first season offered his hand and heart to Rainira. He hacked someone else down there, in response to the insult. So here he is talking to Damon, remembering how he liked the character of the queen and that he is still faithful to her.

Aymond = Damon. What was expected of Damon in the first season, Eamond is doing now. A daring, excellent soldier, wants battles and to sit his brother on the throne. And yet, their names are anagrams. Aemond = Daemon ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
DancesPenguin
DancesPenguin
09 Jul 15:06 # Show original
Not a series, but a heartbreak. Most of all, I feel sorry for the dragons, especially when you know that this is essentially their last era before they disappear altogether.

Meleis and Reinis are just without words. In fact, they both understood that this was their last battle, but both were faithful to the end — the dragon to the rider, and the rider to his beliefs.
Dark_Alice
Dark_Alice
09 Jul 17:21 # Show original
@DancesPenguin: Azor Ahai will revive them.
lubik
lubik
09 Jul 15:24 # Show original
I immediately understood how it would end when Rainis volunteered to fly to the fight, but when watching the final scenes, I just sobbed out loud, God…

Eamond, for all the viciousness of the character, I like it that way, very handsome))) the acting is on top.. the biggest dragon, so much power, I do not know what they hope for when they let small dragons against the Vhagar

Everyone is shitting Kohl, the character is written in an extremely disgusting way, in my opinion the actor plays great, causes us the right feelings😆
voronrun
voronrun
09 Jul 15:28 # Show original
the steering wheels on the dragons seem to be set up —to-date, but where is the catapult, well, at least the parachute? or does the canon not allow it?
voronrun
voronrun
09 Jul 18:36 # Show original
@voronrun: The question is stupid, of course, but this is the first thing that came to mind when Rainis was hanging in the fall. Perhaps she couldn't overcome the shock of fear. It doesn't look like fearless Rainice. Why didn't she try to jump off, there was probably either a moat with water or a hay wagon. After all, she could have survived and been a good grandmother, a loving wife and a wise adviser. Her words spoken at the grave of the twins still hurt to the very heart: "When the desire to kill and burn prevails, and the reasons for this are forgotten, another way is possible. There is no war more hateful to the gods than a war between relatives."

To fight to the last drop of blood, to die fighting is worthy of respect and honor, and her name will resonate for centuries. Oh, Rainis, why didn't you jump off?..
EyeOfTheRaven
EyeOfTheRaven
PRO
09 Jul 19:12 # Show original
@voronrun you write very strange things.
1. Where should she have jumped if we are clearly shown where the battle is taking place and the dragon falls to the ground afterwards.
2. If she had jumped from such a height, would she have survived?
3. There is an army of Greens everywhere, even if by some miracle she had survived, she would either have been killed right there, by the same Eamond who would have followed her jump or captured by people on earth.
4. A custom-made hay wagon especially for Rainice is very funny, such a piano from the bushes😏
No, she fought with dignity and died with dignity as well.
voronrun
voronrun
10 Jul 00:39 # Show original
I would also like to easily say "Fought with dignity and died with dignity." But I can't forget that look of hers that had so much hopelessness and doom in it. For some reason, I need some external reason for her humility in the last seconds of her life, let's say a stuck foot in the stirrup. Maybe I should have read the book in advance, then I wouldn't have worried so much, knowing everything in advance. But these emotions help me think and talk about death.
I often heard the phrase at funerals: "I finally got over it." It's as if the speaker is trying to find something good in death, maybe even justifying him in not grieving enough for the deceased. Only death is not salvation and not a reward, death is not worthy of justification by valor, heroism, or high purpose. It is the extreme limit of unhappiness. A person comes into this world to live, not to die.

If I knew where to fall, I would have laid out straws… It's funny to tears.
Patologoanatom
Patologoanatom
09 Jul 15:59 # Show original
Princess Rainice was one of the most adequate and sensible people here. I feel so sorry for her!

And I also feel sorry for the dragons, There are so few of them left, but they die for the sake of some human intrigues for the throne. Meleis and her last look at Rainis 😭

Aegon II is still a stupid boy. He should not sit on the throne, but continue to carouse in pubs. Aymond, of course, would be much more suitable for the role of king than a brother.

And again, Kohl crawled out alive and unharmed! The dragon couldn't walk on it or trample it with a horse... No, it is like a well-known substance that does not sink in water 😒
Dark_Alice
Dark_Alice
09 Jul 17:18 # Show original
@Patologoanatom: well, uh... at Aegon's coronation, she killed a bunch of innocent people, and she didn't touch the guilty ones.
PianoOnTheLake
PianoOnTheLake
10 Jul 15:55 # Show original
@Patologoanatom: Is psychopath Eamond a suitable king? Well, well...
funnypennywise
funnypennywise
11 Jul 10:07 # Show original
@Patologoanatom: Yeah, an adequate character who sides with the murderer of his only son purely because of femme impulses
EyeOfTheRaven
EyeOfTheRaven
PRO
09 Jul 16:33 #
VeronikaBovt
VeronikaBovt
09 Jul 17:15 # Show original
I just watched the episode. 😭I feel so sorry for Rainice and the dragon.It is certainly an exciting sight and such a sad one.... Why are they (Reinis and Meleis) did not fly away from the battlefield, it's immediately clear that they have no chance against a machine like Vhagar.
DeadDanny
DeadDanny
09 Jul 18:14 # Show original
Eamond with the biggest dragon is like a schoolboy with cheats. It's not fair.
ah_egorova
ah_egorova
09 Jul 19:29 # Show original
@DeadDanny: the schoolboy who sacrificed his eye)
lubik
lubik
09 Jul 22:59 # Show original
he cheated - he ran away under the guise and mated with the dragon))
Trance
Trance
09 Jul 21:04 # Show original
how I cried when Meleis and Reinis died, I especially feel sorry for the dragons, because they are such extraordinary and intelligent creatures in the series and unfortunately they are dying out🤧
HighlyLikely
HighlyLikely
12 Jul 20:10 # Show original
@Trance: stories about the extraordinary mental abilities of dragons are highly questionable, to be honest. If they were so smart, they would have allowed themselves to be tamed and used for their own purposes. It's beneficial for cats and dogs to interact with people, but why did the hefty winged lizards who can puff fire give up?
Little_Biird
Little_Biird
09 Jul 21:19 # Show original
So sorry for Rainis and the dragons 😭😭😭
I'm afraid to imagine what will happen next
Juullietta
Juullietta
09 Jul 21:23 # Show original
Tin, the series is very cool!
Finally, the battle of the dragons is powerful. It's a pity for Rainis, she was an interesting character, well, the betrayal of her brother in the end is also something, it's hard to accept to die knowing it to the depths of your soul…
IL-2
IL-2
09 Jul 21:49 # Show original
It seems that dragons are more pitiful than worthless people! ) Well, of course, there are only a few dragons, but no one counted the little men) A kind of draconian racism! ))))
pavlovdv22
pavlovdv22
09 Jul 22:19 # Show original
And why is Cole called & # 34;Kohl& # 34;?)
Patologoanatom
Patologoanatom
09 Jul 23:39 # Show original
@pavlovdv22: because his name is Criston Cole.
Bice
Bice
09 Jul 22:33 # Show original
My howl "No" when Rainis gave the order to attack Vhagar, probably the whole house heard. My goddess, I loved her.
Sitting astride a dragon is awesome, especially when the camera is behind the back of a rider flying on a dragon. In Game of Thrones, I was not so impressed (maybe because the dragons were smaller?), now I want to review such scenes and equalize what was done differently
alekseev_vitaliy
alekseev_vitaliy
09 Jul 22:51 # Show original
There are so many comments, and the series was only released a little less than a couple of days ago.

People, where are you looking? Tell the person who is watching through KinoPoisk, with a delay of a week:(
lubik
lubik
09 Jul 23:00 #
кинопаб👹
queenmarishka
queenmarishka
09 Jul 23:15 # Show original
I want to watch this spectacle in the cinema 🔥
EyeOfTheRaven
EyeOfTheRaven
PRO
09 Jul 23:37 # Show original
@alekseev_vitaliy yes, I just type in a query in Google and look at the first link. I'm sorry, but I'm always amazed by such comments🙈
funnyfoxnaprimer
funnyfoxnaprimer
10 Jul 19:04 # Show original
@EyeOfTheRaven: Google was invented in 1998, people before: "where do you look?" 😹
Hidji
Hidji
10 Jul 20:13 # Show original
@funnyfoxnaprimer: and "before" was there a place to watch at a speed of 33 kb/sec? Special attention is paid to the letter K in kb/sec. The answer is one: in the cinema).
funnyfoxnaprimer
funnyfoxnaprimer
10 Jul 21:12 # Show original
@Hidji: I thought it was clear that this was a reference to memes with such a theme)
Hidji
Hidji
10 Jul 21:46 # Show original
@funnyfoxnaprimer: To be honest, even though I've been here for only a year, I'm so fed up with questions about where to watch that even jokes on the topic are no longer perceived normally, Really, the twenties are in the yard, and people ask such questions.
funnyfoxnaprimer
funnyfoxnaprimer
10 Jul 21:47 #
@Hidji: 😹
fairyfoxxy
fairyfoxxy
10 Jul 05:46 # Show original
@alekseev_vitaliy: You score in the search "watch the TV series House of the Dragon season 2" and watch. There are a lot of sites. I'm looking at the dom-250. He is literally always the first to drop out if you look for
opheliozz
opheliozz
10 Jul 15:22 # Show original
@alekseev_vitaliy: you type in a line: watch such and such a series online - and voila, you go to the first links that are found. I usually have this lord series
Insania
Insania
11 Jul 12:22 # Show original
@alekseev_vitaliy: I like to watch in the original with subs, vyvazhivaet fizkids
z1ck
z1ck
09 Jul 23:16 # Show original
And why the scene where a female defector (I don't remember the names) spies on the council's plans with Rainira? It's strange that no one wrote.
fairyfoxxy
fairyfoxxy
10 Jul 05:47 # Show original
@z1ck: Missaria asked for the council, Rainira apparently did not agree, so she has to sit in the corner.
bubukaalina
bubukaalina
09 Jul 23:34 # Show original
How funny-it seemed to me that the series was boring, and then Aegon says, "You've tired me out." And the ending is just to tears. I hate it when dragons die, and even more so I feel sorry for the heroine of the fight. She was my favorite. 😞
LianaSkyfall
LianaSkyfall
09 Jul 23:38 # Show original
With this line, Rhaenys, when she escaped from King's Landing, how everything was ruined… Because now there is only a feeling that Rainice has only paid for her own stupidity and misplaced compassion, which it was too late to correct. I don't remember her death well enough in the book, but when everyone else let her go alone to this massacre, it immediately became clear that after such stupidity she was no longer a tenant. When Viserion was killed in IP, my heart was already breaking for him and for Denis, here for me personally, they didn't put the squeeze on the drama a little bit. Neither Rainis nor Rainira give the impression of fighters in the series at all, which is very depressing. The whole line with Rainira and Alicent, when, like, after meeting with Alicent, Rainira only realized that it was time to fight, stupid well, just to the point of impossibility, because she shows Rainira a completely stupid woman who was able to open her eyes when she was already spat in the face for the tenth time. The time for arguments and convictions had passed a long time ago, and she was still babbling about some kind of world. I hope Velarion will make her stop chewing snot now. Aymond, having tasted the blood of his relatives, can no longer stop, that's who took full revenge on Aegon for the brothel. I don't know why the fans are expressing their displeasure for this scene, but as for me, Eamond initially did not feel affection for him. What the Mushroom said there was more just like his personal opinion.
HighlyLikely
HighlyLikely
11 Jul 21:04 # Show original
@LianaSkyfall: "Neither Rainis nor Rainira give the impression of fighters in the series at all" - and they shouldn't. The series may not be a masterpiece and there are problems with motivation, but it is based on the fact that no one wanted anything like this, but it turned out what happened. There is more pathos in IP, but here there is more gray dull reality, in the history of any country there were ordinary and understandable, humanly good, but weak rulers from a state position, who led everything and everyone to disaster.
lenala
lenala
09 Jul 23:50 # Show original
Well, Emana, everyone died, and dolboklyu If you are more alive than all the living
And it pisses me off, of course, that again everything is decided by the size (of the dragon)), and that Vhagar chose a random brat at one time, and not those who were surrounded for a long time
EVA-000
EVA-000
10 Jul 10:37 # Show original
Well, Vhagar is the oldest "warrior", she fought with Balerion. She has the most experience and it's not just the size, but her perfect combination with the rider, Eamond is a cunning, vindictive and smart guy, she feels it and their tandem gives this outcome, which almost always ends with the death of both the dragon and the rider from the enemy side. I'm on the black side, but Vhagar and Eamond are just something. I agree with you about Kohl)) such a nasty, straight nightmare)
lenala
lenala
10 Jul 14:30 # Show original
@EVA-000: well, the first round was clearly for Meleis and Reinis against Vhagar, and in the second the victory was literally due to one bite. And as noted above, it is not the most realistic moment where a gigadragon the size of half the sky was able to hide unnoticed. Well, as if kamon, purely the screenwriters sucked it out of their fingers. But the normal battle tactics were just for Rainis
funnypennywise
funnypennywise
11 Jul 10:10 # Show original
@lenala: What is to blame for that? A standard paladin, there are much more questions for other characters
lenala
lenala
12 Jul 19:23 # Show original
@funnypennywise: yes, because If you are offended by the 80th level. He was offended at Rainira for choosing the Iron throne and being a queen, rather than running away with him to the farthest lands. Amazing, how is that? He slept with her and completely shifted the responsibility for his choice onto her, accusing her of being a whore. Now he calmly defected to Alicent's bunk, well, just a handsome man in a white raincoat (aha coat). But Rainira is still to blame, it is necessary to take revenge on the seductress, this is a right thing!
Whereas if you choose who's a whore here, then it's definitely a Stake.
funnypennywise
funnypennywise
12 Jul 19:46 # Show original
@lenala: Ah, I forgot that he slept with Rainira, but the dude is one of the few positive characters, plus not everyone can get pregnant with two queens at once
Liza
Liza
10 Jul 00:15 # Show original
If Aegon died or became incapacitated, then how will the spoiler from Jofri, which we know from IP, be realized? Or does it not specify which brother did it? Hmm

In my opinion, Mielis and Reinis fought with dignity, she tried to fly up from a vulnerable place in the Hagar and rip open her belly, but it turned out to be not just fighting against such a large dragon. It's a pity for Rainice, but I'm thinking for her, as if during the battle she had a thought with Damon's words that she had a chance to finish it all (during the coronation) and since she didn't do it then, she tried during this battle to correct her mistake, to do what she wanted to do. that I didn't decide then. But the forces were no longer equal
fairyfoxxy
fairyfoxxy
10 Jul 05:50 # Show original
@Liza: It is being clarified. He's not completely incapacitated, he's just going to be on pain medication all the time.
danceratthetomb
danceratthetomb
10 Jul 00:49 # Show original
blayayayayay when it's already dead..........
barbie_turatova
barbie_turatova
10 Jul 01:27 # Show original
Goodbye Rainis..... you left with dignity to the queen, along with your fighting friend Meleis....
dalaukar
dalaukar
10 Jul 03:15 # Show original
Another battle of cretins in a batch for Gadyukino Castle.
Martin is pathologically unlucky with battle scenes - they are forever devoid of the slightest logic.
00rainbow00
00rainbow00
PRO
10 Jul 03:51 # Show original
Dragon babies 😭😭😭
I feel sorry for them. There are just no words
Temka_Zubkov
Temka_Zubkov
10 Jul 09:13 # Show original
I don't think Eigan is dead. And the Sun Spear is likely to survive.
I think the victory here is more of a rider than a big dragon. He competently hid where he was out of business and struck a precise blow)
Well, since he apparently understood where he was involved
Сериальщик732
Сериальщик732
10 Jul 15:04 # Show original
@Temka_Zubkov: yes, a big dragon can be defeated by a dexterous one, she could also pick it up a little from below
Temka_Zubkov
Temka_Zubkov
10 Jul 15:11 # Show original
Yes, it showed how he hid behind the castle. And Rainice lost it, she was looking at the top. The only hope is that Damon can stop it)
ron1
ron1
10 Jul 10:27 # Show original
After the next episode, I am looking forward to the end of the series and the review from Dim Yurich and Klim Zhukov
Freyja89
Freyja89
PRO
10 Jul 14:23 # Show original
Meleis and Reinis are two queens!
Сериальщик732
Сериальщик732
10 Jul 15:03 # Show original
The best episode of the series so far .

Now they will have a little fried king)
furSy
furSy
10 Jul 15:50 # Show original
The dumb screenwriters won again. I don't know how it is in the book, but the next royal appearance of Vhagar at the very last moment is no longer surprising. We all immediately realized that Reinis would stay there, but it was possible to play it in a more original way, to explain the purpose of sacrifice. And so they made some kind of Joan of Arc out of Rainis. Sacrifice for the sake of sacrifice. After defeating Aegon, it was necessary to blame the DC. Yes, minus the castle, but minus the green dragon and potentially minus the king. And information about Vhagar, which must be defeated by joint efforts, and not alone.
In general, it's stupid, very stupid. I don'T BELIEVE it, as they say.
zaiKS
zaiKS
12 Jul 11:42 # Show original
@furSy: there's the stupidity of the blacks, you could understand about the ambush (they don't fuck this castle, don't let them take it, as they say)and you are right to send at least 2 dragons. But apparently they did not expect it, they thought it was Because it was so flaunted and the lock was taken because it was small, just so that it was +1😃
zula22
zula22
10 Jul 17:20 # Show original
There is a lot of beautiful camera work this season..If it's not an angle, it's a work of art. Thanks for the battle of the dragons, of course, but I felt so sorry for them..I will remember this dance for a long time (I rewound it 5 times)..I remembered the dragons from Game of Thrones..I was worried too
Karrong
Karrong
10 Jul 17:34 #
Меня в этой ситуации больше всего напрягает тупость обеих сторон, которые до сих пор не поняли, что любые вылеты драконов нужно совершать минимум парой. Уже второй раз дракон одиночка минусуется противоположной стороной. И пусть пока зеленые в этом плане ведут в счете, но даже по этой битве видно, что Вхагар в одиночку не осилит двоих драконов, поэтому даже ей опасно летать одной.
SkotskiyVrach
SkotskiyVrach
10 Jul 17:54 # Show original
The series is fire! In every sense)
vj1975
vj1975
10 Jul 18:12 # Show original
How do I turn on that 4 series)?
Hidji
Hidji
10 Jul 20:21 # Show original
@vj1975: Don't look here. Here you can track the view, mark and discuss).
Satella
Satella
10 Jul 19:36 # Show original
When Rainis volunteered on the battlefield, I had no doubt how it would end for her. But if Damon were flying, I wouldn't doubt the outcome either, just the opposite))
zaiKS
zaiKS
12 Jul 11:37 # Show original
@Satella: he will have a chance to get even))) And the outcome is correct (purely my opinion)
ekko
ekko
10 Jul 20:40 # Show original
Yes, graphene may not be perfect everywhere and there are a lot of questions about the logic of battles in the sky (there are none), but still how cool the dragons in the saber are.The main stars of the action.
They are the ones who are most pitied in this war.This blunt-minded generation of Targs has exterminated a majestic family, the last hope of mankind. Almost.
It's funny how the theme of prophecy and the center of the PLiO arch, which was so stupidly merged in the main series, are raised from series to series.

But what they're doing to Eamond is some kind of lol. He was a complete nutcase, whereas according to the book it seemed that he had brains and pragmatism.
SafarovaDinara
SafarovaDinara
10 Jul 23:12 # Show original
The last look of Rhaenys and her dragon Meleis 🥺🥺
And the fact that Aymond would betray Aegon sooner or later was expected
UliaChayka
UliaChayka
10 Jul 23:22 # Show original
Uh, the fire series 🔥
Iscariot_Elian
Iscariot_Elian
11 Jul 01:16 # Show original
I'd rather not watch any dragon battles. It hurts when, because of human ambitions, living beings are forced to fight with their relatives.
Annie10792
Annie10792
19 Jul 22:27 # Show original
@Iscariot_Elian: It's a pity that you can only put one plus, I mentally bet a thousand! Stupid people with their stupid wars solely because of ambition.
WillaryR
WillaryR
PRO
11 Jul 02:02 # Show original
Little dragons 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
funnypennywise
funnypennywise
11 Jul 09:56 # Show original
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zaiKS
zaiKS
12 Jul 11:35 # Show original
@funnypennywise: She is a wise woman and she had a beautiful dragon.
funnypennywise
funnypennywise
12 Jul 11:59 # Show original
@zaiKS: A wise woman who sided with her son's murderers? Or the woman who turned victory into defeat and deliberately killed herself? I understand that there is not a single positive character left in the series, but this is not an excuse for their flatness
Maggot87
Maggot87
11 Jul 11:41 # Show original
I'm watching the series, and I don't understand what I'm missing. There are no series of emotions. Although some scenes are still awe-inspiring. Even the moment when Kohl was spat at was stronger than the battle of the dragons. I certainly feel sorry for the dragons, but only because I read the book. Only small fragments make it clear that the rider's connection with the dragon is all there. The burnt warrior, as it were, hints at the horror of involving dragons in the war. You watch sluggish conversations and scene changes, where there are intrigues and conspiracies. The screenwriters definitely fell short.
Insania
Insania
11 Jul 12:04 # Show original
An incredibly fierce battle of dragons, I sat in a tense daze the whole scene, and I kind of understand that dragons are graphics, but how amazing it is filmed, makes me sympathize and worry about what is happening
Reienis and Meleis - it hurts a lot and how many more victims are ahead
spartak200808
spartak200808
11 Jul 14:34 # Show original
The powder keg has finally exploded! For the sake of the first large-scale dragon battle, we languished in anticipation for three whole weeks.
daribaggins
daribaggins
11 Jul 15:25 # Show original
How fucked up Aymond and his huge dragon, blitz. I don't know how it is in the books, but why does Vhagar always win in the series!? Well, it's slow and unwieldy
vk922554
vk922554
11 Jul 18:51 # Show original
@daribaggins: Only Vhagar is twice as big, and this is a very significant trump card.
While he's being scratched there, he'll make a piece and that's it
Шнурок_73
Шнурок_73
11 Jul 19:40 # Show original
@vk922554: As far as I remember, Vhagar is her. Here is Balerion, he was, the biggest dragon! But he had already died a long time ago. And so, you are absolutely right, you will not do anything on a nimble motorcycle of any brand, against a clumsy Belaz, the weight categories are too different.)))
10anya_d
10anya_d
11 Jul 19:42 # Show original
@Шнурок_73: Come on, the blacks just haven't put their killer car into action yet... Eamond misses his uncle a lot... It's just like that...
zaiKS
zaiKS
12 Jul 11:33 # Show original
@vk922554: if there are 2 dragons on him , then he doesn 't have too much chance . While he's gnawing on one, the second one can do good damage.
10anya_d
10anya_d
11 Jul 19:28 # Show original
@daribaggins: It will be necessary to wait a little longer, and there will be a settlement with Aymond on Vhagar.... The greens have fewer dragons in number... That's why Vhagar is trumped
zaiKS
zaiKS
12 Jul 11:30 # Show original
@10anya_d: Even if 2 dragons attack him, he's screwed, even though he's the biggest and has more experience
10anya_d
10anya_d
12 Jul 11:34 # Show original
@zaiKS: I think you know the outcome, there won't be 2 dragons needed... All that is needed is a more ferocious, cruel and cunning horseman than Reinis... and the same crazy dragon... so the song will be sung...
Cheryl
Cheryl
11 Jul 19:07 #
Таргариены пусть хоть все умрут, но смотреть как погибают драконы - просто душераздирающе :(
NickPaulson
NickPaulson
PRO
11 Jul 19:37 # Show original
Reenice 😭😭😭
HighlyLikely
HighlyLikely
11 Jul 20:10 # Show original
Oh, Rainis. The wisest and most intelligible character, as for me. She was broken off with the throne, but she found the strength not to get angry and start messing up, just stepped aside, but still tried to keep the balance to the last and not let the slide into war. She believed her husband, nursed him, relied on a personal family history (it was their relationship with Corlis that was shown to be the most harmonious) - but even here she was disappointed, it turned out that hubby had a second life, which he did not talk about, albeit with good intentions. So it's understandable why she eventually went all in, wanted at least some honesty and ambiguity, gained greatness and dignity in death, wiped everyone's nose. I liked her very much from the very beginning, and I will miss her very much.
EgorVlasov
EgorVlasov
15 Jul 19:07 # Show original
@HighlyLikely: Of course, I would like to believe that she really wanted this, and did not go all-in in a hurry. It's just that if you think about it, Kohl's attack was not repulsed, the castle was smashed, Aegon and the dragon were burned by Aymond, and Rhaenys died with the dragon. In fact, she saved Rainira, but now who will save her in the castle?
kamikaze
kamikaze
11 Jul 20:57 #
Я так понял Вхагар пытаются подать как имбу, несмотря на то, что это чертов неповоротливый боинг с дырявыми крыльями. Скучно.
А Вермитора видимо под финал оставят, если Деймон совсем кукухой не поедет.
zaiKS
zaiKS
12 Jul 11:29 # Show original
@kamikaze: of course, he still has to participate in the battle, old scores as they say
NyanQt3_14
NyanQt3_14
11 Jul 22:53 # Show original
Melies is a pity, Rainis is not, she performed some kind of shit
Vhagar - looks great, the most impressive dragon
BUT HOW DID SHE HIDE BEHIND THE CASTLE??? SHE CAN'T TAKE OFF WITHOUT A RUN FROM A HEIGHT, BUT SHE'S SITTING IN AMBUSH HERE
The scenes with Damon look superfluous in this series.
Well, again, of course, we need to insert a fucking drakaris, because we didn't have enough fan service from Alcock (krashiha)
If the creators of the series have a goal to sell more primary source books, then 0 questions at all, but so, some kind of stupidity sometimes comes out.
And well, there's just scorched earth around Kolya, no one survived, but he's okay. But the scenes after he wakes up look beautiful, you can't take that away
white_boom
white_boom
11 Jul 23:36 # Show original
A thousand likes to each comment about what a nasty guy!! It 's very hard to tolerate him on the screen
RoboMind
RoboMind
12 Jul 00:22 # Show original
They still didn't tell Grandma that her son was alive...
chickchirik
chickchirik
12 Jul 07:42 # Show original
@RoboMind: It's not a fact anymore. For a reason, we were shown how his dragon behaves strangely.

Imho, they are trying to fix the scenario jamb of season 1 and free the dragon for a new rider by cutting out Laynor off-screen.
RoboMind
RoboMind
12 Jul 15:24 # Show original
@chickchirik: They seem to be writing from a book, everything should be there without a script
chickchirik
chickchirik
12 Jul 16:39 # Show original
@RoboMind: Oh, if they were writing a book, but alas.

They banged on Leinor's book in the middle of the fair and then the question of the next rider of his dragon does not arise at all. But in the series, they decided to make marshmallows out of Raenira and Damon.

As a result, they drove themselves into a scenario dead end, because with a living owner, his dragon cannot have a new rider. 🤷🏻‍♀️
RoboMind
RoboMind
12 Jul 16:52 # Show original
@chickchirik: So this incest couple decided to kill him? Or was it also with the staging, but he himself found his death there somewhere?
Nog
Nog
12 Jul 17:48 # Show original
@RoboMind: He was killed by his friend and presumably a favorite, either out of jealousy or bribed by Daemon.
fairyfoxxy
fairyfoxxy
13 Jul 07:21 # Show original
@RoboMind: in the book, all actions are described on the basis of the surviving records of the meister and the fool. I.e., several versions of what is happening are presented, with a postscript " according to that one..." or "there were rumors that..." therefore, it is not known exactly how he died or whether he died
Tatiana_TNS31
Tatiana_TNS31
12 Jul 00:57 # Show original
I'm crying, I'm so sorry, Meleis and Reinis 😭
Sugar_Padre
Sugar_Padre
12 Jul 09:05 # Show original
I've been watching with my mouth open for the last 15 minutes. 😮
zaiKS
zaiKS
12 Jul 11:26 # Show original
@Sugar_Padre: And knowing the outcome, I did not breathe, and I was worried (although I knew that the princess would die)
RoboMind
RoboMind
12 Jul 16:53 # Show original
@zaiKS: It was pretty obvious there when Vhagar crawled out. Only the scenario move is stupid, what did Rainis and her half-ass count on against this Gojira? It was possible to try to get off into the sunset, there was a chance
Arrivera
Arrivera
12 Jul 12:29 # Show original
Episode 4 and somehow the first season has been better so far. I don't know if it's Millie, the plot, the production, or something else, but for now, somehow... predictable? Rainis talked to her husband in such a way that there was a feeling that she would not return, Aegon was asked not to do anything, of course, he would climb into battle and fail, Eamond was already essentially replacing his brother on the council... The dialogues on the councils are monotonous, Damon's trips and his entire storyline are not involved in the main plot at all, Alicent drinks tea and finds out about the prophecy, but she herself admits that the real words / will of her late husband will not change anything ...
Plus Rainis was generally one of the most striking characters, at such a pace only on Kolya will stay to watch.
NarminSalayeva
NarminSalayeva
12 Jul 15:27 # Show original
God, I was crying on this episode how sorry I am for dragons .
Adelink_k
Adelink_k
12 Jul 19:22 # Show original
Can someone explain to me what's going on in Kohl's head? He walked around like a fool, does a lot of nasty things, but throws meaningful glances, which acts like a brave knight. 2 betrayals,, now this. I don't understand anything about the Persian at all.
RoboMind
RoboMind
12 Jul 19:37 # Show original
@Adelink_k: I don't understand why you're bothering him at all. The man harbored a grudge against the woman who refused him. He changed sides, considering her a whore (in fact, he was not far from the truth). He began to serve the greens. I can't sympathize with him, but there's nothing to hate there either. An ordinary man, with his flaws, is no worse than others in the series.
RoboMind
RoboMind
13 Jul 06:02 # Show original
@RoboMind: So what are you disliking, it's better to explain your position. Such a haight rose up as if it were some kind of Jofri, although there is not even such a vile Persian there
fairyfoxxy
fairyfoxxy
13 Jul 07:22 # Show original
@RoboMind: Joffrey was nasty from the very beginning and never hid it. Kohl is a hypocritical brute
Геворг
Геворг
PRO
16 Jul 21:12 #
@RoboMind: а что непонятного? Чем она была недалека от шлюхи? Она не вела себя как своя пробабка, сестра Джехейриса
rogueFOX
rogueFOX
12 Jul 23:14 # Show original
Well, why didn't she fly away (what a pity for Meleis and Missaria (I'm watching this series to see how badly Kohl ends up
rogueFOX
rogueFOX
12 Jul 23:15 # Show original
@rogueFOX: * Reinis. Very interesting character
gkalian
gkalian
13 Jul 02:10 # Show original
@rogueFOX: Well, he already finished badly, Vaughn Alicenta drank tea in the series.
Геворг
Геворг
PRO
16 Jul 21:13 #
@gkalian: 😆
Originlirium
Originlirium
13 Jul 03:02 # Show original
The unnecessary death of Rhaenys and her dragon. I already knew that I couldn't defeat Vhagar, it was worth flying away. Still, the king and his dragon lost, at least something, because the battle is 100% lost. Now Rhaenyra has lost a strong ally, but this last push by Rhaenyra has led to nothing at all
RoboMind
RoboMind
13 Jul 06:07 # Show original
@Originlirium: 100%, it doesn't look like her at all, one of the most adequate people has always been. On the battlefield, the advantage is 2 dragons against 1, the fortress is also not the most strategically important. I condemn the writers, so far this is the top 1 blunder of the series for me.
-VLDMR-
-VLDMR-
13 Jul 04:03 #
Рейнис как была старой амбициозной дурой - так и осталась., но.. Могла бы и свалить и дракона спасти. Интересная битва. Успеха Зелёным) И не удивлюсь, если Эйегон жив, но помялся. (ПЛИО читал дважды, предысторию ни разу)
RoboMind
RoboMind
13 Jul 06:09 # Show original
@-VLDMR-: In what place is she ambitious? If there were such a thing, then Viserys would be peaceful.;
-VLDMR-
-VLDMR-
17 Jul 02:31 #
@RoboMind: Судя по сериалу - Рейнис "почти королева", просто обиженка. Предала свою кровь ради бастардов Рейниры? Все это знают, все это понимают да и с точки зрения политики логики никакой. Ой, меня в заложниках держат.. И нафига еще в прошлом сезоне на коронации Эйгона кучу людей завалила, панику навела, но не убила главную угрозу? Да и если бы не родились дети у Рейниры от Эймонда - тогда за что она борется?
Геворг
Геворг
PRO
16 Jul 21:13 #
@-VLDMR-: предыстория есть часть ПЛИО. Это одна большая франшиза
Rin_Rin
Rin_Rin
13 Jul 21:36 # Show original
Beluga was roaring over the death of Reinis and her old lady Meleis... god, it seems like I've already got used to living in a state of war myself for so many years, and TV series and movies with military operations are still hard to watch morally, hell is some kind of all these bloody battles....
Aymond, of course, is still a soulless ferret, he kind of felt sorry for Luke, but drakaris threw him at his drunken brother (although it's clear why anyone would like to roast Aegon now, his dragon is still very sorry!), I'm generally silent about Rainis and the dragoness, the enemies ... I'm afraid to imagine what scale of bloodshed awaits in the future episodes of the season, but how epic and magnificent everything was filmed, about the talent of actresses and actors, it is already necessary to roll a paragraph separately…
ArinaO
ArinaO
14 Jul 01:20 # Show original
What a cruel irony. The one who cried out for peace the most was the first to die (in battle, I mean). I feel sorry for the dragons, of course
ArinaO
ArinaO
14 Jul 01:28 # Show original
I am still waiting for the appearance of the third son of Alicent and Viserys, whom they wanted to remove, but George Martin resisted, I wonder how he will be introduced now. Although they have already started to mention it
limbo
limbo
14 Jul 07:37 #
Рейнис ванлав.

Драконов не жалко, примитивные рептилии должны сдохнуть.
lenala
lenala
14 Jul 12:26 # Show original
@limbo: Power to the reptilians!
RoboMind
RoboMind
14 Jul 15:16 # Show original
@limbo: The word primitive doesn't really apply to intelligent magical creatures.
katrb
katrb
14 Jul 14:13 # Show original
Rainis 💔

Now there will definitely be a brutal war, because Rainier's death will never be forgiven by Rainis.

I am waiting for someone to subdue the dragon that is hiding in the cave (I think it is the Dragon of Father Viserys), and then there will be something to fight with Vhagar.

In general, the actor was chosen very well for the role of Eimond. He is very harmonious and plays the role of a person who strives for power and is ready to do anything.
katrb
katrb
14 Jul 14:14 # Show original
In general, attacking a dragon that is two to three times larger than yours is stupid.
Adrasteya
Adrasteya
15 Jul 16:45 # Show original
@katrb: It's stupid to think that only a bigger dragon can defeat a big dragon. A bomber is bigger than a fighter, but it won't help him in a dogfight.
Шнурок_73
Шнурок_73
15 Jul 17:42 # Show original
@Adrasteya: So there is a weapon hung on the fighter that does not relate to the fighter itself in any way. Hang guided missiles to Meleis, plus a cannon, so of course there would be nothing left of the Vhagar.But we have what we have, Vhagar is much bigger, with a lot of experience, firepower, strength is much higher.
Hidji
Hidji
15 Jul 20:09 # Show original
@Шнурок_73: at the same time, she is extremely clumsy and slow, which was deliberately demonstrated to us more than once. Then the showrunners shouldn't have served her up like an air snail. The same much more nimble Meleis did not cost anything to come from the back hemisphere and arrange a fight). Or at a height, stupidly, her wings should be torn into shreds with her claws. Maneuverability in the sky is very important.
Adrasteya
Adrasteya
15 Jul 20:18 # Show original
@Hidji: Well, Meleis gave her a good thrashing. Maybe if he hadn't already been wounded and exhausted in the battle with Aegon, something would have happened.
Well, if you've read the book, you know that you don't have to go to a big dragon with an even bigger dragon.
Hidji
Hidji
16 Jul 00:15 # Show original
@Adrasteya: that's why I tried to explain it, since the comparisons with aviation went higher and immediately caught on to the armament. And it's purely about combat tactics). Meleis is a wonderful dragon from the point of view of aerial combat. If you take the book, it all came down more to the experience of Vhagar, which, with the beauty of the fight in the series, did not really work out to reflect. Visual aesthetics prevailed over practicality, as it almost always happens in movies))).
Adrasteya
Adrasteya
16 Jul 16:42 # Show original
@Hidji: exactly: cinema as a genre has different rules compared to literature 🤷🏻♀️
Пьяный_ёжик
Пьяный_ёжик
17 Jul 23:54 # Show original
@Шнурок_73: >> Suspension of guided missiles to Meleis, plus a cannon, so of course there would be nothing left of the Vhagar.😃

So much more can be hung under the Vhagar, it is much larger, the load capacity is higher, perhaps it would pull the dragon early detection station.😃😃
It is surprising to me that the author did not come up with an adequate air defense. At least in the cities (fortresses). Fuck tueva hooch, at least the same scorpions, so that the dragon is basically afraid to appear above the fortress (city).
Геворг
Геворг
PRO
18 Jul 10:30 #
@Пьяный_ёжик: видимо скорпионы трудно и дорого делать
Пьяный_ёжик
Пьяный_ёжик
20 Jul 20:18 # Show original
@Gevorg: At first I wanted to write that primitive weapons, what could be expensive there, "cook up " a thousand pieces and don't worry. But I decided to check it out anyway and was stunned. You are right, the weapon is difficult to manufacture and expensive, albeit fabulous. 😃😃
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0JmBLsxKdo&;t=499s
Hidji
Hidji
21 Jul 01:35 # Show original
@Drunken_ezhik: sorry for the curiosity, but in what sense is fabulous? Scorpions appeared in Ancient Rome, and maybe earlier in the form of analogues, if you dig into the history of the Middle East and China. So what's fabulous about them, maybe not a rapid-fire six-barrelled arrow gun running on mana😆
Пьяный_ёжик
Пьяный_ёжик
21 Jul 18:04 # Show original
@Hidji: As I understand it, you have not watched the link, and if the world of the Dragon House is a reality for you, and not a fairy tale, then you can only envy.🙂😉
Hidji
Hidji
21 Jul 19:11 # Show original
@Drunken_ezhik: for me, Scorpio is not a fairy tale, but an absolute reality, even if it is placed in a fairy tale. Something like that. If a Kalashnikov assault rifle is stuffed into some other fairy tale, then it will not become a fabulous weapon from this).
Пьяный_ёжик
Пьяный_ёжик
Yesterday, 11:17 # Show original
@Hidji: A Kalashnikov assault rifle (of any modification) would undoubtedly give a huge advantage, black, green, and gray-boromaline, if there were an unlimited number of cartridges. And so, the horn flies out in 5 seconds. If there is no production of cartridges, then a Valyrian steel sword is a hundred times more effective than a machine gun. 🤣🤣

"for me, Scorpio is not a fairy tale, but an absolute reality, even if it is placed in a fairy tale." Does it work the other way around? If you have seen fabulous things in real life, how do you react to them??Eight years ago, I met a friend on the street, at first I was delighted, and then I almost shit myself out of fear. He died 15 years ago, and I'm taking stable care of his grave. So he greeted me, said he was in a hurry and ran across the road, and I stood rooted to the spot. However, this question should have been asked to you under the series "Dark Matter".🙂
PianoOnTheLake
PianoOnTheLake
Yesterday, 16:25 # Show original
@Drunken_ezhik: You were drunk, hedgehog.
DanechkaK
DanechkaK
14 Jul 19:41 # Show original
God, stop my screaming... The series is simply divine, the battle of the dragons is something... OH my GOD, why did I lose my favorite character again! Rainice, God, you were beautiful, but you're gone.💔 My heart was breaking for this Eamond to be torn apart by all the dragons of the movie. Meleis and Reinis, God, why am I in such pain again. I should have flown away as soon as I saw Vhagar, because I knew that the advantage was in his direction.BUT no, she is a true warrior and goes to the end! These views in the end, Meleis and Reinis, how they are accustomed to each other, one whole, without one there will be no other... You both danced a beautiful last dragon dance🥺 Rainis, in my opinion, was the wisest in this series... I hope her sacrifice won't be in vain. She didn't even say goodbye to her husband, perhaps because she knows, or perhaps she just assumed that she would not return. Meleis and Reinis are forever in my heart.

Yes, it is a cry of the soul!

This episode is just something, the best and at the same time the most heartbreaking in the series!

I'm not talking about Aegon, I don't want to say anything about him. An emotionally immature child, not worthy of the throne, advanced by his mother and grandfather. The mother is also good, she got knocked up by the current owner. I also managed to get rid of him. Well, of course, Alicent is also smart, yes. Aymond is completely finished, betrayed his brother, even though he deserved it, because of him riders and dragons are dying. IT'S ALREADY 2. Rhaenys and Rhaenyra's son. I can't wait for him to be torn apart and take revenge on the greens for all the pain, for everyone...

The main loss is Reinis and Meleis 🥺
artemovn
artemovn
14 Jul 20:27 # Show original
The battle of the dragons is epic. Rainis is a pity - a tough woman with balls and brains, but dying in battle with her dragon is probably the best outcome for her.
Aegon is a dumbass, Otto told him right- to fuck up everything because of pride and vanity.
DmitryElistratov
DmitryElistratov
14 Jul 21:09 # Show original
And again, the supergiant dragon was first hidden unnoticed in the forest. Where is the intelligence? It's a damn giant dragon that's being hidden!!!
And again, for the second time, a giant dragon appears unnoticed from nowhere from below and kills the victim.
The giant dragon is controlled by a dude with much lower battle experience...
actually, I thought that the stealth scheme should work exactly the opposite.. The series is beautiful, one of the best of the season... But the logic of what is happening.
Oh, yes. So far, a million things have happened around-all this time, Damon... sitting in a castle and catching arrivals from a bed from the ancestral tree?...
Rainira's whole tactic was to send granny absolutely alone, without support, to war.
Bravo, bravo!
Геворг
Геворг
PRO
16 Jul 21:17 #
@DmitryElistratov: а что разведка? Маленький замок, плюс разведчиков могли убить. Так дракон и есть поддержка. Другое дело, что обычно Вхагар сидел в городе и защищал столицу
bloomwinx
bloomwinx
15 Jul 00:05 # Show original
One of the best episodes that came out this season. Dynamic, interesting, everything is there.

But! I think the death of Reinice and Milace is generally stupid and unnecessary. If the first time I understood her attitude to battle, and the fool fell back there, then the second flight was unnecessary and stupid. I repeat, but only because these two adjectives fully describe the situation
zamizami
zamizami
15 Jul 00:17 # Show original
the longer I watch the dd, the more I want to review the ip

purely in order to plunge into the unsurpassed political intrigues again, which kept their tension worse than any battle on the screen
ZemlyaT
ZemlyaT
15 Jul 00:50 # Show original
I was just reviewing the IP. What a masterpiece it was…
Геворг
Геворг
PRO
16 Jul 21:19 #
@zamizami: не забудьте пропустить историческую экскурсию по Септе в 3 или 4 сезоне с Джоффри и Марджери. Плюс Ширин в своей последней сцене с Давосом в 5 сезоне, ибо спойлеры
vasha_gadost
vasha_gadost
15 Jul 12:40 # Show original
It's not clear, but it's very interesting. Why was one-eyed chillin' in the woods? who is he harnessing for, if he has taken down this little fool and the lady on the red dragon? (I'm having a hard time with their names, please don't throw slippers😅) what's going on at all?)) he decided to sit on the throne himself, or that Damon just catches arrivals and sleeps in the rain. The others are talking and can't agree on who is attacking whom and when🤣🤣
ZemlyaT
ZemlyaT
15 Jul 12:58 # Show original
Who's the fool?
vasha_gadost
vasha_gadost
15 Jul 13:04 # Show original
Well, judging by the comments, which his brother kind of is. Who flew drunk to fight
vasha_gadost
vasha_gadost
15 Jul 13:06 # Show original
Here it is again. in the IP, I didn't even have any questions about who whose brother/matchmaker was, why these did it like that, and those like that. and here for the second season I can't figure out who is responsible for what🤷🏻♀️
zaiKS
zaiKS
15 Jul 13:34 # Show original
@vasha_gadost: well, he didn't fly with the first single, because he wanted his brother to suffer such a fate.
vasha_gadost
vasha_gadost
15 Jul 13:57 # Show original
so that's my question, initially the lady on the red flew to burn Kohl. the little one swelled up and flew to defend his honor as a "king", that no one there takes him seriously, they say, I will prove to you all that I can too. What does one-eye have to do with it? Shouldn't he have stood up for his brother when he arrived? They were both against Rainira in theory, so they should have attacked the lady in red together, since she was acting on her behalf, wasn't it? Or have I started to get confused again
zaiKS
zaiKS
15 Jul 15:59 # Show original
@vasha_gadost: the one-eyed special did not come out so that the brother died (but did not die) to be regent while the brother was recovering. If the king hadn't come out, he would have come at the first call.
zaiKS
zaiKS
15 Jul 16:02 # Show original
@vasha_gadost: Jofri is a villain, but he was surrounded by wise people. And this king is very emotionally ambitious, he had a right hand that, although he fumbled, alas, he did not choose him. And for this, one-eyed decided to quietly overthrow his brother, because he does not fumble
vasha_gadost
vasha_gadost
15 Jul 17:05 # Show original
Ahhh, well, that is, he has his own interest) clearly, thank you for the explanation👍🏻
beorn_n
beorn_n
15 Jul 17:05 # Show original
How slow and boring everything is.
EgorVlasov
EgorVlasov
15 Jul 18:58 # Show original
I'm sorry about Rainice. In my opinion, he was the last, truly fair, intelligent and faithful hero regarding both sides of the conflict, who always left a mood of full sanity after his words... And Corliss and I were such a strong couple, despite the skeletons in the closet.
Do you think Corliss will give out something sane now? Anger and a desire for revenge would cloud the sanity that Rainice had kept for him. Now the last strong character, Damon, remains on the side of black. I would like to see some kind of knight move from him, but something is not good there, this aunt with her mysticism...
Scandias
Scandias
15 Jul 22:09 # Show original
Interestingly, as a man, Kohl is an asshole, but as a commander he is still not a fool.
I feel sorry for Aegon. A bolt is hammered into a kid all his life, and even as a king he cannot feel his importance. What could go wrong if you tell him to know his place and do nothing?
Alicent, in principle, is the mother of the year, then she worried with her daughter that she was burned by infidelity, then now she breaks down on her son for her mistake.
It was as if Eamond had set himself the goal of abstracting from his past experience with Luke and proving to himself that killing was normal, and that the dragon was listening to him.
With Damon's glitches, it's scary if he accidentally cuts the throat of someone alive, confusing it with a vision.
There were tears in his eyes the whole scene of the battle, because it was clear that the outcome was a foregone conclusion. For a second, there was a glimmer of hope that Rainis would escape, but no, then there was a terrible murder. Apparently, everything overlapped.
Yeah, really.
Scandias
Scandias
15 Jul 22:12 # Show original
And I also like that imperfect people are shown here. Who can carry more than they are ready for. Who are talented, but can also make mistakes. The strong - to break down, the weak - to strengthen or get angry.
It's very cool that they didn't make a passing action movie out of such a rich setting.
christinapirs
christinapirs
15 Jul 22:19 # Show original
The first tantrum because of the series in 2024:
the nerve cells happened and flew away with Rainis
, the beloved, the best heroine
Of course, Rainira, her son and in general many interesting characters here, but Rainice was incomparable
christinapirs
christinapirs
15 Jul 22:21 # Show original
after this episode, the only question is whether the kinglet is alive, because if it is, then what the hell was it all about, Eamond
And did Cole's head really start moving in the direction of realizing what he had done? Although nothing rehabilitates this character anymore, awareness or awareness, he already pisses everyone off and becoming a fanatic does not come back, but it was nice to see in his eyes a complete ahuy at the end of the series anyway
1gorock
1gorock
16 Jul 00:01 # Show original
minus the grandmother, one-eyed is good
bamasa
bamasa
16 Jul 14:32 # Show original
I'm not a specialist in dark dragon battles, but why did Rainis turn the steering wheel back, wasn't it obvious that Aymond would ambush??
Геворг
Геворг
PRO
16 Jul 21:22 #
@bamasa: наверное считала, что по любому её достанут и решила уйти красиво и в битве?
Геворг
Геворг
PRO
16 Jul 20:03 #
Милли! Она пришла ещё на одну серию 🥰
Интересно, эти видения – просто глюки, его нечистая совесть, или его потаённые желания?
Стоукуорт? Не оттуда была жена Бронна в 5 сезоне?
Деймон такой Деймон – то его сарказм, что лорд Талли здоровей, чем говорили; то просит пацана ускорить своё наследие…😅
The tables turned: в 1-м сезоне, когда узнала, что принцессе дали «чай» - это стало первым шагом их ссоре. И вот спустя года она сама пьёт такой же «чай»… 🙃
В прошлой серии Корлис не был воодушевлён «чёрными», но теперь всё-таки приехал? Интересно, что заставило его поменять мысль.
«Шлюха из Драконьего камня» - ну да, отказал – шлюха, другая королева не отказала – великая порядочность 🙃
Бедный Эйгон – все принимают решения за его спиной 😅
Интересно, что Эймонд решил унизить брата наполовину – обругал его, но на валирийском…
Интересно – не смотря на отрицание Рейнире, Алисента всё равно решила хотя бы изучить, не могла ли Рейнира быть права, вдруг она сама недопоняла мужа?
Так это тот малыш из 1 сезона, что сватался? Что ж, красиво вырос 😅
Интересно, что главная над шептунами наблюдает сыздали, а не присутствует на совете
Мне кажется или Коль получает удовольствие от всех этих сражений и побед? Только не понятно – его радует само сражение, вид крови, или считает, что тем самым он мстит Рейнире?
Унижаешь брата в ответ на его унижку, не сообщаешь о планах и не пытаешься даже делать вид, что всё хорошо, и есть план, а потом жалуешься, что он прилетел и всё испортил 😅 Интересно – он сам не поднялся, ибо боялся, что Вхагар опять потеряет управление и может навредить королю, или тайно надеется на смерь Эйгона? Ведь он теперь на очереди наследования, раз племянник мёртв, а второго сына в сериале нет… Специально ли атаковал, когда явно брат тоже попал бы под огонь, или это был calculated и необходимый риск?
Учитывая, что с Вхагаром в одиночку не справиться – нельзя ли атаковать армию, но в то же время уклоняться от его атак, не вступая с Эймондом в прямой бой? Хотя если найти подход и вывести всадника из строя…
Сначала я думал, серия закончится на рассказе о Сне Эйгона, но к счастью она продолжилась. Потом когда экран стал чёрным при падении Коля, но вроде опять не всё 😅
Чёрт! Я прямь вздрогнул, когда Вхагар атаковал снизу неожиданно 😶 Чёрт! Рейнис! Неужто умерла? А серия всё идёт… 😶
Своими детскими обидами и желанием мстить Коль довёл до войны, и конечно же не посчитает себя виноватым за все эти смерти и разрушения…
Судьбу Рейнис не показали, но раз дракон падал спиной вниз, плюс взрыв после падения – скорее всего мертва. Чёрные потеряли дракона и союзницу, но её муж наверняка это так не оставит и не бросит чёрных, плюс зелёные тоже если не потеряли дракона, то тот по крайней мере серьёзно ранен, как и король. Однако – глубока ли была вода у замка? Не могла ли она развязать себя и пытаться упасть в воду?
celery_modernist
celery_modernist
17 Jul 01:30 # Show original
For the first three and a half episodes, I felt like a bored Aegon at a meeting, the appearance of dragons finally made me feel something. Such endless dynamics and power, power and horror. It's a pity for the Solar Fire, it's so small and helpless against the background of others, And when the dragon Reinis's neck was chewed through, I just cried, Reinis of course is also a pity, but not like the dragon
Eva_Satanic
Eva_Satanic
17 Jul 01:38 # Show original
To say that I'm in shock is not to say anything...
my shock is just in shock.
It's a pity for Meleis, too, because... Well, she could have been saved, but Reinice... ahem... the Queen goes to the end... Rest in peace, red queen...
it's a pity for Sanfair, too, because he suffered because of a drunk boy who still did not understand that his actions were too impulsive. However, he did not want to take the throne. He wanted to drink with his brothel friends, and they put him in jail to ignore him... That's why he's freaking out. But I'm sorry for the dragon.
Everything was expected of Eamond.
The series itself is kind of... Incomprehensible? What's the fuss about Alicent's pregnancy? Well, I got knocked up, well, I got rid of the bastard - why waste airtime on something that is unlikely to affect the plot? Where is Helaina? Did her child die recently, and they forgot about her? There are some hangouts in the woods for half a series... In general... So far, only four episodes have passed, I will hope for the best. I'm looking forward to meeting my relatives in Harenhall 😏
Геворг
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17 Jul 10:51 #
@Eva_Satanic: а почему эфирное время тратили на бордели, на Коля с Рейнирой, а теперь Алисентой? Кстати, между этими двумя была ещё одна сцена, но её удалили. А аборт показан, ибо было бы глупо не показать, что она не предохранится от последствий. Хэлейну в прошлой серии видели.
PianoOnTheLake
PianoOnTheLake
17 Jul 12:07 # Show original
@Gevorg: abortion is a strong word... )))
Геворг
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17 Jul 18:50 #
@PianoOnTheLake: а что?
PianoOnTheLake
PianoOnTheLake
19 Jul 11:45 # Show original
@Gevorg: Well, just in case, drinking tea is not an abortion, IMHO. It was sooo far away from the child there.
Геворг
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Yesterday, 21:11 #
@PianoOnTheLake: как знать - не первая ночь, не первый раз
Adrasteya
Adrasteya
18 Jul 13:36 # Show original
@Eva_Satanic: the fuss with abortion is needed to show the hypocrisy of Alicent, who quarreled with Rainira because she drank the same tea after having sex with Kolyan.
semenovajulie
semenovajulie
18 Jul 18:43 # Show original
I always feel sorry for dragons, in fact, dragons as well as people are kin to kin, and I'm very sorry for Rain; I wanted her to fly away. I cried for half a series (
maricalt
maricalt
18 Jul 19:01 # Show original
Who knows how many days Amediateka translates a series? When should I wait for the 5th?
Kodoto
Kodoto
19 Jul 03:37 # Show original
Hmm, I was wondering how many people support the different sides in this war.
Put a finger up if for the Greens (Aegon, Alicent); a finger down if for the Blacks (Rainier).
In this case, this is not an assessment of the parties, but only a counter.
Геворг
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19 Jul 10:51 #
@Efir_boy: палец вниз 😅
Kodoto
Kodoto
19 Jul 19:03 # Show original
@Gevorg: super 😂 so at least you can try to see the aspect ratio, without my attempt to wind up the rating (assuming still who will win)))
PianoOnTheLake
PianoOnTheLake
21 Jul 15:12 # Show original
@Kodoto: You take a survey on the day of the series release. There's no one here anymore.
Геворг
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Yesterday, 21:11 #
@PianoOnTheLake: вы же тут
Guanhomara
Guanhomara
19 Jul 08:41 # Show original
Awesome series! An exciting dragon battle, even made me cry.
vk531418
vk531418
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20 Jul 11:42 # Show original
@Guanhomara: I could barely contain myself either. I feel sorry for the dragons, and I liked Rainis so much....
8margoshka8
8margoshka8
19 Jul 16:49 # Show original
I'm sorry for Grandma! But it was as if she was looking for just such a death - heroic, or something... so we will remember her with bright sadness.
Annie10792
Annie10792
19 Jul 22:21 # Show original
God, I'm so sorry for Sunny!!! And this moment, when Aegon comes to his dragon (or dragon) at the moment when he feels that no one needs him in this world, the Sun buries itself in him with sincere love and devotion of a true friend who loves you unconditionally. And after that, the dragon was killed!!! They just bullied me! Well, how is it? They are not created for human stupid wars at all, they are proud beautiful creatures who deserve the best ((((I just burst into tears when Sunny was killed, I didn't care about all human characters, bring back the Sun, this creature didn't deserve this(((
10anya_d
10anya_d
19 Jul 23:20 # Show original
@Annie10792: Unfortunately, the dragons were subjugated by magic by the Valyrians precisely in order to conquer new lands, unite them, enslave peoples, etc... we feel sorry for them, but these creatures have always been an instrument of war and power...
vk531418
vk531418
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20 Jul 11:41 # Show original
I feel so sorry for the dragons and Rainice. I think Vhagar is just an imba, sorry. Already 3 dragons have died from her paws. I do not know, emotions are overwhelming, the series is top. It only came to me from the comments about Reinis's husband's bastards, apparently he was looking at them inattentively. In short, everything was done very cool in episode 4.
Геворг
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Yesterday, 21:12 #
@vk531418: официально пока внутри сериала ничего не сказано, лишь намёки.
vk531418
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Yesterday, 21:17 # Show original
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Геворг
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Yesterday, 21:28 #
@vk531418: это 6-й эпизод, тут - 4-й
RumL
RumL
20 Jul 21:12 # Show original
Damn, she cried at the moment of Rainice's death...I understood that she would die ((( and hubby also has a bastard

Vhagar is invincible, simple and huge...I wonder how big the Ballerion was
Hidji
Hidji
21 Jul 01:39 # Show original
@RumL: according to the description, there is only one head the size of a peasant hut))). Very big, and he ate a lot...
id144232556
id144232556
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21 Jul 18:53 # Show original
Not Reinice.😭😭😭
Candramelekh
Candramelekh
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Yesterday, 05:11 # Show original
The dragon fight was disappointing. A healthy old dragon is heavy and unwieldy, the veteran on the middle dragon had to tear him down. And when the old woman flew to the castle, I immediately realized that the screenwriters would repeat the trick with the end of the first season, when they failed the son of the heiress. Badly
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