s01e07 — The Legend of Ruby Sunday

it could be a good two-part series, if not
1) Twitter guessed about the main villain of the season somewhere in the middle
2) a script that seemed to come from the pen of Chibnell

to stuff a ton of characters and not be able to steer them, to arrange some kind of hodgepodge team - I'm sorry, but we had enough of this at Chibnell.
Rose is superfluous, Morris is superfluous (vlinks would have done fine), Harriet could have been casually pushed in later, literally before reveal. Or show them with flashbacks.

In short, very strange decisions ruined a potentially good first part of the two-part series. Now we have to wait another week.

mixed feelings, I expected more from this series, but here the drama is on the drama and in the end it's kind of weak, with the doctor and the companion and the fact that the unit is developing it really comes to me, but the plot is meh

Personally, I enjoyed watching it. It is clear that the Rose was stuffed for a fanservice, but damn - the whole episode is flirting with fans who were building theories about the TARDIS anagram, about the fact that Susan Triad is Susan Foreman, about the fact that the character Harriet without a surname in the cast list is Harriet Arbinger like Henry Arbinger from "Devil's Chord" and about the fact that Susan Triad Techology is Su-Tech, Sutekh.
For a complete fanservice, it was not enough only that instead of Maurice there was someone from the previously announced scientific advisers of the UNIT - Shirley, Osgood or Malcolm.

I began to get goosebumps starting with Mrs. Flood's frightening refusal to serve Cherry a cup of tea, then even more so from the death of Officer Chidozi, and finally so in general. Once again, there is a feeling of a powerful, grandiose and epic ending to Doctor Who, as in childhood.
Of course, there is still a whole episode ahead, but I'm already sure that this will be the best season finale since "May our Lives be Eternal / The Fall of the Doctor" (forgive me Chris Chibnell, but "Timeless Children", "The Battle for Ranscore Av Kolos" and the sixth part of Flax - well, such finales, let's be honest). And if it weren't for the magnificent finale of the tenth season, then perhaps this season's finale would have been the best since "Stolen Earth / The end of the journey", because I don't know how anyone, but I have questions and complaints about "Pandorica opens / Big Bang", and "River Song Wedding", and "The Name of the Doctor", and especially to "Dark Waters / Death in Heaven", and to "With diabolical tenacity" (if it is considered separately from "Behold the Raven" and "Sent Down from heaven")

So people have read all sorts of theories and are dissatisfied with the result? Well, you should have assumed something else yourself... It's strange in general, if you want to be surprised, read everything in a row. And then, by the way, Russell pretty well fucked up all the theories that lay on the surface.
I liked the series, it's not super-duper - in fact, it's a seed for the finale, but the suspense caught up well. All the scenes in the time window are in terrible tension, the intrigue with Ruby's mom is good, everything turned out terribly with Susan Triad too. Kate is poor on her nerves the whole series, nothing is clear, but everything is in danger. Rosa and Carla are really superfluous, but they will probably play some role in the next episode. In general, it is not even clear how to defeat the god of death. How do you defeat the gods, damn it? They somehow defeated the toymaker there, and that he and the maestro had not such serious powers. Well, Mrs. Flood atas, for a short scene she gave out a real gloomy man with her "you won't wait for tea".

For someone who hasn't watched the classics, the series finale is weak. Like, well, God and what? And what exactly is his problem with the Doctor? We are all dying, why would the god of death kill people who will die anyway.
The line with Ruby's mom is very interesting, I hope it's not going to be very easy to merge. But Ruby seems to be kind of superfluous the whole series, despite the big mystery around her. Why didn't the Doctor run with her to get the tape? Why did the other companion go with him to investigate who Susan was. Yes, the plot explains it, but it feels like the Doctor doesn't usually do that.
A fun game with fan theories, almost like it turned out in Sherlock.
I'm just missing some kind of a streak in the Doctor this season. "I know everything, I'll decide everything now, I'm a Doctor." As a result, we look at his beating of elevators when he can't get himself together, although he initially positioned himself as a wildly worked-out character.
In general, I really hope that the second part will be some kind of crazy to compensate for the weakness of this one

I didn't like it. First of all, it's too long for the finale. That's why it was necessary to go for the tape to bring my mother to the unit so that then just send her? It didn't affect the plot at all. Secondly, the scenes are very slow. In the simulation, they struck like an eternity. Thirdly, half of the characters are simply not needed, they just run around as if creating a fuss. Well, damn, there are a lot of old people now. Is this a new part of diversity? Well, the main thing is the villain. I was expecting another one of the strange entities of the toyboy or maestro level, and here is some boring dude from Egyptian mythology who just kills with a touch. This is a step back. Also, the whole first part is strange. How did they connect the doctor's alleged granddaughter and Sunday's parentage? Just because? Just laugh at the fan theories? It turned out to be stupid and not interesting

I won't say that this is the best episode of the season, but I definitely got a portion of pleasure.
I liked this oppressive feeling of the coming cunt and even the hodgepodge of characters did not bother me. But then again, Carla was clearly needed here for Ruby, so there are zero complaints here at all, but it's unclear about Rose, but if she ties some kind of Doctor to 14, then it will be fun.
Regarding Sutekh, I saw all the assumptions, and it was funny to see how they started, literally started with small crumbs and began to grow into a tangle over time, so at least this time all the fan assumptions did not turn out to be bullshit :D
I hope RTD will be able to finish the story normally, otherwise it will be necessary to sort out a lot of everything.

and then they will somehow return to Susan, the granddaughter, or if it's not her, then it doesn't matter that he left her somewhere? It will be funny (no)

I liked the theory that the doctor is the lost god of life from the pantheon, it would be cool if it turned out to be true, and he would be the opposite of Sutekh. although it seems that it is already planned here that this Ruby will be the daughter of one of the gods

it feels like I watched the crossover of the Doctor series with the yet-to-be-released spin-off about UNIT, because well, a lot of focus was paid to Vlinks, Morris (where did Shirley go, by the way??), Colonel Ibrahim and other guys whom we really or don't know yet. Against their background, Ruby's role as a companion aka the main assistant to the Doctor was completely lost:(

(well, I also have a question, how did Donna (and her mother, most importantly) let Rose go alone to the UNIT, knowing how much hell is going on per square meter in the universe)

For me, the best moment of the episode is still the scene with Mrs. Flood. I immediately remembered all the theories that the plot with Susan Triad only distracts us from another evil granny, who was saved for the second season :D but I hope that we will put all the points with her in this too

and so finally the season finale is intriguing again (I haven't noticed this since the Capaldi era) and interesting cross-cutting themes have reappeared in the series, for which I want to wake up early to watch a new series faster and confirm/refute my theories. RTD, don't let me down!

OK, I watched the classics and the Sutekh series more or less remember, but I didn't expect to see him here, to be honest.

I wonder why he decided to settle accounts with the Doctor again right now?

About Ruby and her mom... it's clear that there is some kind of mystery here, but, after all, Doc scanned Ruby at the end of the "Cosmodets" and the scan showed that she was human.…

Carla's presence in the UNIT also didn't really understand what was needed.…

The neighbor is not a simple granny, by the way, either.

Tax...I always rate parts of two episodes after watching the second one, so I won't rate it yet, but I really liked the series. It intrigued me very well and the funniest thing is that when I thought about the arch myself, I came to the conclusion that maybe the grandmother is Susan (the same one), that the name of the office is the TARDIS, etc. and so on, and RTD took these assumptions of mine showed that these are the most obvious assumptions and trampled on giving out the classics as a result! Rush. A couple of years ago, I already reviewed all the classics and in general I have fresh memories of the era of the Fourth, but still I think it would be necessary to review the Sutekh series during the week.
I don't read ex-Tweeters and that's why the theorists didn't spoil anything for me. But I don't understand why some people who have read the theories stopped the series...On the contrary, isn't it a plus if the screenwriter specifically leaves a bunch of small hints that work?

I have not read any assumptions and in general I approach the series with a "clean" head, which is why I am free from any speculation. And I didn't like the feeling that the actors felt superfluous in this scenario. If this is a pilot for a spin-off about Unit, OK, cool. Some kind of Americanization, I have nothing against Americans, but for a doctor it's not very good for me. I admire the way the character's Jokes feel, Millie is a good girl. And the scenario is very weak

The series has mixed impressions.

From the cool: the episode with Mrs. Sunday and the response to her request, Actress Flood famously inflated the atmosphere. Suzanne had the gait of Angela Merkel, ahah, smiled)

I didn't like that they combined all the theories at once, all the plots at once. As a result, the story with Ruby's mom got lost, they mixed up both the Tardis, and the UNIT, and Susan, a lot of unnecessary drama (with the same dead general from the UNIT), mixed a bunch of cool characters at one time in one place, a prolonged time window (the Winx simulation room???), Sutekh was not impressed at all, at all this Egyptian theme in the pantheon of gods is very different from the same Toymaker and Maestro, imho, a little weak.

But I really liked Mel and Jokey in this episode! Charming)

I haven't seen any spoilers, I haven't mastered the classics. at the end of the series, I was sitting with the maximum stone cast, not understanding at all what had happened :-|

as a person who likes when sayfai and science are thrust into fantasy settings with elves and magic, I don't really like turns when gods, magic, that's all are crammed into sayfai. the only place where inexplicable crap comes to me is in horror, but it's not horror either, so it didn't go at all.
I only liked the creep moment with Mrs. Flood.
I will not put an assessment yet either, let's see what happens in the final.

I'll go at least look at memasics in tumblr in search of serotonin, because the series didn't give me a drop of it._.

We will draw conclusions in a week, after the second part. At the moment, a lot of things have been written, they will write even more, fortunately there is time for reflection.

P.S. - First you got a granddaughter, and then a daughter? 😕🤔

If you forget for a moment that you are watching the Doctor Who series, then the question that was asked is extremely interesting, but introduces a slight stupor. Approximately the same condition was when watching the 3rd season of Umbrella Academy. There was a question – Who gave birth to the cube (Christopher)??? 😃🤔

I don't like this ship! I don't like this team! What? Yes! I don't like anything at all!@

So I watched the classics. It's long, boring, made of shit and sticks, but... It's a thrill. Whatever Doctor you take, everyone has a zest, a crazy one. And a hard core inside. He is a time lord who saves stupid people from a host of villains.

The relaunched series is the fire itself. Grandiose plot twists, unpredictable reptiles from the biblical horned honeycomb to live pieces of soap. The doctor saves the Holo Library, the Earth, and now he is truly friends with his companions, and when he falls in love, he is ready to tear up space and time for them like an ace in a hot water bottle. And his friends are also ready to break into a million pieces for him, just to be with him. (A sea of nostalgic tears)...

And then something broke. And instead of the Doctor, a speed-addled fool appeared. Either I've aged dramatically, or instead of a time lord, we've been given a drug addict who's buggy about adventures. As dumb and buggy as she is. Well, OK, and an old woman can have a hole, I decided. According to the collapse of ratings, they will draw conclusions and correct themselves...

Yeah, right now! Did they beat this cute fuck up with a volume of Dostoevsky?! Sometimes he grins like a moron, then the creature is trembling. Babies, racists, homosexuals.
In short, if this slob in the last episode does not remember that he will not pass from the glamorous club, but the time lord, the sword and the flame of the universe and will not melt the stupid sand dog on glass along with half the galaxy...

Honestly, I don't even know what to say, there are so many riddles and questions!I didn't even want to watch one episode at once, since it's a two-part series, so as not to suffer, but somehow I couldn't stand it...First of all, I'm very glad Kate Sturt, I adore her, well, she's so beautiful and these conversations about her past, about her father, it's so touching..Gemma is a great actress and so beautiful!"From the beginning you got a granddaughter, and then a daughter"- it's just THE BEST ahaha!In general, there was a hope that Susan was alive, now I don't know, I still hope that she is definitely there somewhere and someday they will meet, she can also regenerate, it's not just that she is remembered not for the first time! And I'm very glad MALL loved her very much in old school and is also beautiful now!Even at first I was glad that maybe this woman Susan is really his granddaughter, but as I understood it, it doesn't seem to be, i.e. this stuff around the tardis has been constantly for all 19 years and it's connected with Ruby definitely, who is her mom interested in this question all season?And this God of all Gods or SUTEKH/SETH is an ancient Egyptian god, I know there is something connected with wars and death and chaos, like everyone was afraid of him in mythology and even the pharaohs, this is an interesting move of course and really something new, they are intrigued by how they will fight him, I hope it will work!I even remembered the era of 13 and Flux, he also destroyed everything he touched and half of the universes disappeared because of him, I think they were inspired by the era of Jody maybe) in short, everything is very strange and scary, as if to wait...Before this god Seth from Susan appeared, I thought here that it might be Valeyard, who watched old school remembers, I thought that that TARDIS from 2004 might be his ship, the evil half of the Doctor, I don't know there was such a thought it would be fun, but apparently not..

I read the comments... and it's so good that I don't have the time/desire to be a fan who manages to review a million episodes of "classics" and reread a million theories, arguments, guesses in all social networks around the world. I just watch the Doctor Who series, enjoy and get high, worry and nervous, laugh and cry. The series is gorgeous! In suspense from beginning to end, and this is not the end! "Finished in the most interesting place" 😄 I will look forward to the next one, because it's so interesting who Ruby's mom is, why it's snowing all the time, how to defeat the parasite God (look, stuck to my beloved Tardis, and she didn't even make a sound), how the Doctor will cope with all the new problems and riddles. Ooh, I love it! Since the 11th, there has not been such interest and delight from the Doctor (well, OK, the 12th had several interesting episodes). It's great that RTD has returned and brought back the adventures of the Doctor, which give us goosebumps and a chill down our spine!

I don't even know what emotions this episode caused. It seems like a bunch of characters, the chemistry between the Doctor and Ruby, the Doctor and Kate, the Doctor and Mel, an oppressive atmosphere, an unexpected ending and the return of the villain from the classics, but there is a feeling of speed and boredom at the same time. So much has been mixed, it would seem that it should be good, but it turns out badly. I hope that in the last episode we will get answers to the questions and I will be able to decide whether I like the ending or not. But Jokey's answering jaw at the end scares and makes you laugh. It is clear that he wanted to show surprise, but this slack jaw for 5 minutes causes laughter. It feels like he's having a spasm or stroke *sorry*

Yes, there are too many characters. Yes, this is the most Chibnellian RTD scenario. But how tense I was the whole episode, and how many emotions I got in the last five minutes...

NA-DO-LI!!!

The series is full of action, kept all the time in suspense and worries. Very interesting what will be the continuation, well wait for us now 😍

What a stuffy place in the comments.
I don't like it, I don't like it.
Can you stop reading a billion theories before the series is released? Maybe leave everything, I don't know, to the screenwriters?
And if there had been a turn that no one had guessed, then they would have started to stink, saying that this was an illogical turn.

In general, the cannon series. I like everything. I want more

It always makes you laugh when you watch Doctor Who, and then something comes out like, "THIS IS SUTEKH." And you're sitting there thinking, "Okay, this is probably someone from the ancient, ancient series, and I should be impressed right now." 😅

Mixed impressions of the series. It seems there are interesting moments, but she's kind of fussy, or something. It is also very noticeable how short this season is. There are just not enough episodes in which we would see the various adventures of the Doctor. It seems that we have just swung, and already the grand finale. Because of this, there is no special epicness, despite the fact that so much is being pumped up.

And it was such a cool start.
And then...in general, the porridge is incomprehensible.
Why all this nonsense about investigating Ruby's mother RIGHT NOW?
They stuffed two different stories into one.
It turned out to be a game.

It's a good move with my granddaughter, it's a pity that, apparently, I missed it.... That would be cool.

In general, it is unclear how they will explain the absence of Donna and the 14th in the UNIT all the time now?
But there will be a separate series, it seems.

A gorgeous series. I liked how everyone was tricked with an anagram who managed to read the character's name in the credits. It's a pity that Granny was only shown twice in the series, and not as many times as the Doctor mentioned.

Morris is good. I've been creating such tension all series. I hope he will appear in future episodes about UNIT.

I was amused by how the Doctor mocked UNIT. I gave a pass to my mom, I burned that they were experimenting with time. The President of the Earth after all.

Granny Sunday still won't drink tea. The most exciting arch. Maybe Mrs. Fudd is also a harbinger?

Susan would like to see it again. And since you mentioned that the Doctor does not have children, although there is a daughter, I would like to explain this misunderstanding.

I hope Sutekh doesn't kill any of the important characters. Otherwise, the ending will be extremely gloomy.

I didn't read any theories on purpose this time to get the most out of the twist, I did it.
I really liked the scene when the Doctor said that S.Triad is an anagram, and everyone almost rolled their eyes at how obvious it is. It seems to me that this is such a light teasing of the fans who thought that they had predicted the twist so easily

The end of the series is straight creepy and it was on the rise from the neighbor who stayed to look after Ruby's grandmother, that's why I decided to watch before going to bed. In general, this season has turned out to be a lot of creepy episodes.
The neighbor of Ruby's mother and grandmother is some kind of unusual (unearthly), obviously knows something
I haven't watched the classic TV series and I don't know who all these gods are and what kind of granddaughter, but it's very interesting without that.
I don't understand why I should read the theories of the series and then be outraged, which was predictable, uninteresting and protracted.
It remains to wait for the final episode

I didn't read the theory, I didn't watch the classics in the final:
- I'm Sutekh
All:
-
I'm terrified:
- Who?
Sutekh:
- God of death
I:
- And what?
There were emotions in general, but purely on the atmosphere. Then I had to watch the pyramids of Mars (episode 3 of the 13th season of the classics) and as a result... Although further spoilers for the series of the 70s-80s

..
...
..
..
..
..
..
..
.
..
.....
..
..
The doctor killed him, and he is technically no more a god than the gods from the stargate, yes, he has the ability to kill with touch and enslave, and he killed his entire race and considers all living things enemies... Damn, there is something to be afraid of along the way, but how could he survive, then the Doctor sent him to the corridor where time passed faster at times and he died of old age after several thousand years that had passed in a couple of minutes.

I haven't watched old school, so don't blame me, maybe it's already happened
I caught myself thinking, when they listed all the other gods, before naming the one who is waiting, that oh, now they would say that he is the God of Time, well, like, in contrast to the Time Lord, the real Time Year. It's all the more beautiful that he appeared around the Tardis like that. And the fact that he turned out to be the God of Death was somehow disappointing, because it was very unoriginal.

@Alona: This is still one of the most basic theories.

mixed feelings.
The plot is still very simple, as is the villain. this is a standard Doctor Who episode, but somehow it didn't capture me at all.
at the same time, there is a hodgepodge of characters, half of which seem superfluous.
I just wonder what's going on with Ruby after all! Well, their neighbor is mysterious.

It also brings up thoughts of Marvel series like Moon Knight and Loki. then you look at loki and see the doctor on the minimals. now you watch the doctor and remember about Loki. :D

What a mess the series has turned into with these gods. From science fiction to sordid Supernatural fan fiction.

a series passed, she went to everyone, but it was just not very good for me. everyone didn't like this episode, but I really liked it. Well, what is wrong with me?

First, instead of season 14, the Doctors suggest that we reset the countdown, launch marketing to attract a new audience, and then over and over again make references to the Classic Doctor😅 And I don't really mind at all. I liked the same Toy Maker. But all the same, somehow a very big bet is that the viewer is familiar with the Classics. Such tension was pumped up, before revealing this god, I was sitting on pins and needles and I just didn't think about anyone. And then there's pam-pam-pam, a character who appeared in Doctor Who almost 50 years ago. To be honest, I had a little stupor when I saw this Anubis. And somehow I didn't manage to get into the Doctor's horror in the end, because without additional training I had no idea who was in front of you and why they were so dark. I'm sure there will be a lot of drama in the season finale, but so far the finale of this series has cut off the overall mesmerized impression a little

I liked the series as a whole.
I caught deja vu from the final arches of the RTD. Including thanks to the music of Murray Gold, and the presentation of the disclosure of the villain, exactly as it was with the master in season 3. One to one.
Straight goosebumps went, it's good, I haven't felt this way for a long time when watching

Yes, the series is not without drawbacks, yes it is not a reference, but objectively the best that has happened since the time of the masters crossover at 12. I don't take into account the haste

I really want Sutekh to have a human form, preferably with a charismatic actor.
The shape of the dog was certainly not very impressive.
I really liked the toymaker and the maestro in this regard

No, after all, "gods" in science fiction are not my thing * sighs bitterly*

The only good impression of the series is the Chalk. that's who ideally suits the 15th with his constant outbursts of expression - she also found an approach to the irascible Sixth during his outbursts of anger (although in another situation I would not compare their vibes, they are too different), so she is not used to it. I really liked this short-lived interaction. it seems that this Doctor needs someone like "no nonsense" to besiege him in moments of punching the wall and screaming into the air.

Well, the scene in the time room looks impressive, I even watched it twice, very high quality and tasteful.

To be honest, the interest and intrigue subsided a little when they said that it wasn't Susan, it's sad that I haven't watched the classics before this Set (as I understood it, he already appeared there), otherwise I think I would have been delighted

I still don't understand by what principle the tardis flies into a room, and by what principle it materializes in space :D

The Doctor has been avoiding his granddaughter for so many years because he thinks he brings bad luck, and at the same time the Doctor is constantly recruiting new companions. Hmm... well ok)

Otherwise, I'm waiting for the second part to make a full conclusion)

I have a question - where were there 2 more episodes? where Susan is "Sloogma" as a terminator with half a face and "Griffin" - a blue face (when the Doctor flipped through the images).
or were they just shown to us, but it wasn't in the plot?

Was River the Doctor's first woman?

How does the doctor have a granddaughter if he doesn't have children?

I really liked the series =)))

I have not read any theories, opinions or comments, so for me the series is quite in the spirit of the Doctor.
I wonder how Ruby's story will end.
But as for the Doctor himself, he is the most emotional in the whole history.

As a person whom suspense turns off from the plot (because at that moment he's not moving a damn thing), the second half of the series is wasted. =))

It seems strange to me in the relaunch, which you seemed to want to attract a new audience, to show that the Doctor is new, modern, superemotional, inclusive, to use a long-time villain, besides, it's okay not to let it down. And so the series is very average, nothing special, it did not cause rejection, but it also caused special emotions.

The previous episodes (except the first one) were not bad. The new Doctor's Vibe is different. It's understandable, everything has changed... But this series is weak. A hackneyed theme with evil gods. They always want to shit every now and then. It's like they're taking a day off and going to nightmare living beings for the sake of their base principles. And the charts, Mr. Gods, for whom? The balance of the universe? And no one canceled your work. So work a job, and do not engage in charlatanism hd

PS maybe someone likes this, like I did once, (I do not condemn) but at some point the topic with evil and vengeful gods became boring and childish for me. I just don't understand them... motivation.

A puppy!!!!!!!!!! <3

That's why we love the Doctor for such episodes (Nothing is clear, but it's very interesting)