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Duration: 45 min.
Released: 08.06.202408.06.2024 02:00
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1 season
s01e06
s01 special-4 - The Church on Ruby Road
s01e01 - Space Babies
s01e02 - The Devil's Chord
s01e03 - Boom
s01e04 - 73 Yards
s01e05 - Dot and Bubble
s01e06 - Rogue
s01e07 - The Legend of Ruby Sunday
Release date
22 June

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NebSehemvi
NebSehemvi
08 Jun 03:18 # Show original
so. I OFFICIALLY DIED ON THIS EPISODE.

NebSehemvi
NebSehemvi
08 Jun 03:21 # Show original
@NebSehemvi: I also wrote in a personal account some time ago

1) damn, it would be funny if Ruby died (although it was a hoax, but still!)
2) it was clear from a piece from the series that the Doctor was sticking HARD and I saw WILD CHEMISTRY until someone saw it, hehe

A very light series in general, such a thing could, in principle, be written into any era. The plot is a mix between the Vampires of Venice and the Blood Family.
Will Rogue be Jack's replacement? I have no idea. But I don't mind, Jack always pissed me off. Give me 2-3 more episodes with Rogue, please!
iasra
iasra
09 Jun 13:00 # Show original
@NebSehemvi: Jack had charisma) and this Rogue is some kind of cardboard.
NebSehemvi
NebSehemvi
09 Jun 20:24 #
@iasra: ок.
olcha_baldan
olcha_baldan
08 Jun 04:12 # Show original
what kind of chemistry between the doctor and rogue 🙈 I watched like this, because there were too many emotions and feelings throughout the series 🙈
but let's admit, Russell wouldn't have been Russell if the doctor hadn't kissed handsome this season (it was expected, imho)
I remembered in the middle of the series that we were watching Doctor Who, not the Bridgertons, so I immediately realized that the doctor and Rogue would not have a happy ending (why can't the doctor just be happy, it's really sad)
I really liked the series! the new season is great, although the first three episodes didn't really go to me (they are accelerating towards the finale, hooray)
NaruHinka
NaruHinka
08 Jun 06:08 # Show original
It got really hot... the series was usually careful about such topics, but right here ...
the series is top, bring back the rogue
Da6kaz
Da6kaz
08 Jun 10:45 # Show original
The series has gone very far (except for the shitty exchange of prisoners in the triangle, I think this is an illogical hole in the series in the process).

Rogue came in, but somehow he is too identical to Harkness as a character, in character and interaction with the Doctor.

1-in-1 Jack with 10m (especially considering Torchwood). It seems to be good, but it's so similar... it was as if they first wrote a series for Jack, but then replaced the hero
JellyBaby
JellyBaby
08 Jun 11:11 # Show original
@Da6kaz: It's not clear at all, if he could push her out of the triangle so easily, why couldn't she be removed from there in some other way? Well, yes, it's necessary that someone takes her place, yeah, it's worth it, she can't move herself, but if you shove her outside, she'll immediately fall out, of course, a joke
OrangeElephant
OrangeElephant
08 Jun 11:16 # Show original
@JellyBaby: well, actually, in theory, he first entered the field, exceeding its capacity for one person. It can't hold seven people, so it's possible to push someone out
JellyBaby
JellyBaby
08 Jun 11:22 # Show original
@OrangeElephant: Aaaaa, hmmmmmm. I usually don't understand such technical details and don't notice, then OK)
Da6kaz
Da6kaz
08 Jun 16:03 # Show original
@OrangeElephant: and at the same time, none of the villains could escape by themselves, but they could push Ruby out, it's Ruby. In general, it was just completely inconclusive for me. Even the AI guzzlers seemed more logical to me (imho!)
id264460076
id264460076
08 Jun 16:52 # Show original
As long as there were six of them, no one could escape.
dmarsova
dmarsova
08 Jun 22:47 # Show original
@OrangeElephant: Blaine, it's very logical about the capacity, but there was something about the replacement that was just announced and it's confusing. Why do we need a replacement, why can't the two of us get out of there while the trap is overloaded? By the way, the color did not change back from blue to red.
pigaboutoranges2
pigaboutoranges2
Yesterday, 22:18 # Show original
@dmarsova: I think it would have been possible for everyone to get out, but the overload, it turns out, was a fraction of a second: I entered -- pushed Ruby out -- and already op, full power again, I would have to be ready to jump in time
NebSehemvi
NebSehemvi
08 Jun 13:38 # Show original
@Da6kaz: I do not agree that it is identical in character!

Yes, he may work like Jack in the plot, but the character of the man is completely different. Jack is too self-confident, all Don Juan and sometimes a joker. Rogue is more like a guy standing alone on the sidelines at a party, sipping his drink, and watching the situation. Literally in the series it was!

Jack is such a character... When the Doctor and Ruby enter the hall, Jack would most likely have been lying on Barton and trying to force him to turn into himself, and all because his trap had already been broken due to some ridiculous accident. And along the way, he would also wink at the ladies at the ball.
KonstantinRomeow
KonstantinRomeow
08 Jun 23:32 # Show original
@NebSehemvi: damn, after such a description, I want to see your version of this episode with Jack instead of Rogue. Neural networks would rather learn how to generate long videos based on queries...
Amnezyna
Amnezyna
08 Jun 22:56 # Show original
@Da6kaz: My first thought was - Oh, is Jack a substitute?". And the dynamics are similar, only unlike the previous Doctors, the Fifteenth himself flirts much more actively. It seems to be nice to look at, but the truth is, the feeling of fake Chinese-made Christmas tree toys, because the original is too well remembered.
Da6kaz
Da6kaz
09 Jun 14:24 # Show original
@Amnezyna: I've been thinking about it-I've been thinking about everything... What if almost everything in this episode was the product of Ruby's special talent/what's going on around Ruby? Making a fairy tale come to life.

Ruby's dream of Bridgerton scenes. Her victory over the villain (yka) is so easy. Super convenient rescue of her from the triangle.

Rogue himself is also a manifestation. Somehow made up of the Doctor's memories, he is literally based on Jack Harkness. 

And Susan Twist is a manifestation. Injected into every place and time Ruby visits. Because of her worries about her own biome. And Rogue ended up being "lost" to the Doctor because of the same topic with his mother.
OrangeElephant
OrangeElephant
08 Jun 11:13 # Show original
They canonized the Shalka Doctor... That's sudden) I wonder if they will enter it somewhere for sure or leave it open?

Who doesn't know, in 2003, when the series was not released, the animated series Scream of the Shalka was released, where the Doctor was voiced by Richard E. Grant, and it was copied from him. He was supposed to be the Ninth Doctor, but then the series itself was fully returned and Eccleston was cast
And now Grant has appeared among the past faces, between the First and the Eighth
Pchell
Pchell
PRO
08 Jun 12:24 # Show original
@OrangeElephant: so everyone thought it was a Naughty Doctor, but in fact it's Richard Grant's Doctor from the Moffat parody. Hooray, the Curse of inevitable death is canon! 😂
KonstantinRomeow
KonstantinRomeow
08 Jun 23:39 # Show original
@OrangeElephant: between the First and the Fourth. The eighth one appears there much later. A rather strange decision, considering that in the canonical timeline, the Doctor did not have the face of Richard E. Grant even in the episode "Timeless Children". I wonder if this is a hint? Russell promised to explore this topic in more detail after Chris Chibnell dropped it in mid-sentence... Perhaps we should wait for the next face of the Doctor from the time of the Division, before Hartnell? It would be fun to see how he regenerates into Ruth, or vice versa, she into him XD
Da6kaz
Da6kaz
09 Jun 14:41 # Show original
@OrangeElephant: The director of special effects said that the plans for the script were just a random extra doctor. There were many people on the list of candidates, including Rowan Atkinson. And Grant was inserted as the doctor from The Curse of Fatal Death, without thinking about Shalka.
As a continuation of RTD's position that everything that could happen happened (and like even the faces from the parodies are canonical incarnations, but not necessarily in the main screen timeline)
OrangeElephant
OrangeElephant
10 Jun 21:21 # Show original
@Da6kaz: I only saw a tweet from some employee (but definitely not the director) that when the boss told her that they were adding a Grant, she said "Are we adding The Curse of Fatal Death to the canon?", and then this tweet was incorrectly pulled apart, exposing it as a fact, and not just for her reaction
Is there something more specific or is it about the same thing?
Da6kaz
Da6kaz
10 Jun 22:08 # Show original
@OrangeElephant: another tweet, but of the same nature
While there are no comments from RTD or references inside the updated universe, I consider all the facts to be in superposition))
Amyinthetardis
Amyinthetardis
08 Jun 11:17 # Show original
The Doctor somehow behaved terribly unprofessionally after falling in love. He used to try to show off, but here he allowed himself to be led. I understand, love, everything is fine, but allowing yourself to be led by the handle and trapped in a trap is, of course, strong. And yet to give a clear "no" to a possible invitation to leave the TARDIS and be a ghost hunter
Amyinthetardis
Amyinthetardis
08 Jun 11:18 # Show original
@Amyinthetardis: And instead of asking"who hired you?", ask "who have you lost?"...
id264460076
id264460076
08 Jun 11:33 # Show original
The story of Doc and Rogue is sad, of course… But, the plot of the series is 3.5-4🤷🏻♀️
JimfromIT
JimfromIT
PRO
08 Jun 12:15 # Show original
It will be funny if it turns out in the end that Rogue is Jack Harkness, who for some reason forgot about what the Tardis looks like, but who immediately got stuck and stopped at the sight of the tenth Doctor's face.
It's a very bold hint that this is Jack, or just playing with fans of the series, one of two things.
NaruHinka
NaruHinka
08 Jun 14:53 # Show original
@JimfromIT: There are literally zero hints that this is Jack. The characters are completely different.
JimfromIT
JimfromIT
PRO
08 Jun 22:02 # Show original
@NaruHinka: Okay, well, the characters are different.
But, the spirit of adventurism + phrases that you have lost someone close (sorry, Torchwood is still trampling on the heart here) + the face of the tenth Dock, according to which they found out that this is a Dock, not a werewolf + mutual tackles (okay, Jack was very, very active in this regard and not restrained). The cherry on the cake would be if Rogue couldn't just die like that. Although even without this, there is still something in common in the type.

In general, what am I getting at? I mean, if it's not Harkness, then it's a very fat replacement for Harkness, without such a very big drama behind him and as if it were a clean slate.
MarkRaffer
MarkRaffer
08 Jun 22:15 # Show original
@JimfromIT: Well, what do we know about Jack? He was an employee of a Temporary Agency from the LI century, who left the organization after unexplained amnesia, which erased two years of his life from his memory. He has his own ship at his disposal, he uses psychic paper, the same as the Doctor's, a sonic blaster, similar in principle to a sonic screwdriver, as well as a portable teleporter and a time funnel manipulator, which he wears on his wrist without removing...
Once again - inexplicable amnesia, which erased two years of his life from his memory... so it's quite possible for themselves to twist it so that this is Jack or one of Harkness' friends. At least, I wouldn't be surprised at such a development of the plot in the following seasons.
Jeronimoo
Jeronimoo
PRO
08 Jun 15:23 # Show original
@JimfromIT: definitely not Jack, but maybe he met him or traveled with him, but at least the reference to him is obvious, it's cool, damn, I want Jack back 😍
JaneWatson
JaneWatson
PRO
08 Jun 12:56 # Show original
Where did they get the young Steve Gutenberg to play Rogue?
JaneWatson
JaneWatson
PRO
08 Jun 13:22 # Show original
Poker Face in the classic version 👀
Leiloren
Leiloren
PRO
08 Jun 13:29 # Show original
What a time to be alive!
While Bridgerton fans are dying to wait for the second part of the season, Docta is releasing a series in this style. That's great!
Unexpectedly, I am delighted with the chemistry between the Doctor and Rogue. I hope we'll see him again one day)

Ruby's cosplay caused some confusion, because this crunch still needs to be imitated. And I also felt how this series echoes Family of Blood
godhatesalan
godhatesalan
08 Jun 13:35 #
i wish gay people (aliens) were real
OceanMassacre
OceanMassacre
08 Jun 13:50 # Show original
I will never tire of repeating that the historical episodes in the Doctor are among the best. A funny story with funny aliens. I agree with the parallels to the Blood Family, but less dramatic. A little more Gothic horror in the episode would be perfect for me :)
Rogue and the Doctor are a wonderful team, I hope the Doctor will still try to find him. And it's also a pity that Emily turned out to be fake, such a funny and sweet heroine would be a good friend for Ruby.
Рэйдан
Рэйдан
08 Jun 14:02 # Show original
@OceanMassacre: At first, I hoped that she would become a friend for Rogue and he would fly with her into the vastness of space. And in the end, we just merged all the interesting options into the section - if necessary, we'll get it out of the trash
OceanMassacre
OceanMassacre
08 Jun 15:15 # Show original
There was also the thought that she would be an interesting companion for Rogue, or even that they would be a four-person team, I love when there are a lot of people in the TARDIS
Рэйдан
Рэйдан
08 Jun 13:54 # Show original
A lot of drama for the sake of drama.
The series itself is watchable, of course, but this season the Doctor is not independent at all. He's always stuck somewhere.

The problem is in the search for Rogue - he literally set up the coordinates himself, they weren't spontaneous, were they? Moreover, the gateway remained, and from it you can find out where the Rogue was turned. Yes, only the measurement itself, but this is more than it is not clear where at all. And somehow the Doc quickly waved it off, like, yes, the dude is cute, but they wouldn't have done it for more than one night, I take it?
You can ignore me all you want, but even Jody's Doctor was more interesting at such moments. Here he is just a clown who is looking for entertainment at once, and does not run away from his problems, is not looking for someone or something, or is not just enjoying a new family.
cherik-cherik
cherik-cherik
08 Jun 14:12 # Show original
aaaa

It's VERY strange to watch this episode between the Bridgerton binge-watching

The plot with rogue resembles a series about two Jack Harkness from Torchwood, especially their dance at the ball. very beautiful, very glassy. it is very strange that the doctor gave up so quickly, you can at least run some kind of program in the tardis, which will calculate his coordinates in the background for 1000 years :(I understand that according to the plot, the doctor basically cannot have any kind of relationship with a person who will only be in one episode, but DAMN

I can imagine Ruby's thoughts at this moment. Like: Okay, I'm ready to die to save humanity. It's sad, but what other options do I have? ARE YOU SERIOUSLY SUCKING RIGHT NOW"
cherik-cherik
cherik-cherik
08 Jun 14:14 # Show original
@cherik-cherik: in general, Bridgerton DREAMS that he would be as fucking awesome as this series, there is a million times more tension here. Scriptwriters, write it down, finally add queer lines there
cherik-cherik
cherik-cherik
08 Jun 14:48 # Show original
@cherik-cherik: BY the WAY, I also love the fact that there was also an orchestral version of bad guy
fakechbale
fakechbale
11 Jun 01:08 # Show original
There's also the magnificent Grace Jones played
KonstantinRomeow
KonstantinRomeow
11 Jun 01:41 # Show original
@fakechbale: If in the cases of Billy Irish and Lady Gaga, the instrumental versions are clearly instrumental versions of these fresh pop songs, then Libertango was originally written as an instrumental in 1974, seven years before Grace Jones used it in "I've seen this place before" in 1981. Of course, there is a possibility that they were sent to Grace Jones, but it cannot be denied that they could have been sent directly to the original
iasra
iasra
09 Jun 13:11 # Show original
@cherik-cherik: at that moment, I was carried away by the fact that the "birds", instead of hysterically scandalizing, politely kept silent. It was necessary to at least put an audio track of screams behind the scenes)
Chertt
Chertt
08 Jun 14:49 # Show original
For me, all the scenes with Rogue are just a mockery of the whole doctor's love story.
No, of course, I understand that every doctor is special and it was immediately obvious that he was more ghoulish, but you will remember what happened before ...
the most magnificent, crazy, interesting love story with River Song (which didn't seem to end, I don't remember well).
A beautiful and tragic story with a Rose from which a kiss never happened (except for the cool scene when the Rose was replaced)
And here are the feelings for random man at first sight? Seriously? A kiss after half an hour of dating? Henry Cavill, of course, is beautiful, but not to the same extent.
And after all, I am not at all embarrassed by the fact that they are gay, a kiss with a woman would have caused exactly the same resonance for me. I immediately remembered krinzhatina and Yasmin...
You can call me a grandfather who does not accept everything new and holds on to some traditions of the series, despite the fact that the authors put this doctor in a separate series altogether, but I think that the doctor's feelings are something really high. Or do you really want the doctor to hit on everyone?
Maybe_Karl
Maybe_Karl
08 Jun 14:53 # Show original
@Chertt: Henry Cavill на all white people on one face!
Chertt
Chertt
08 Jun 15:02 # Show original
@Maybe_Karl: pancake... For some reason, I really thought it was him.
And what kind of actor is this then? Google doesn't find it for some reason
Maybe_Karl
Maybe_Karl
08 Jun 15:17 # Show original
@Chertt: Jonathan Groff. To be honest, I only know him from the last Matrix, but he had many other relatively popular roles.
nineath
nineath
08 Jun 17:35 # Show original
@Chertt: There are about zero similarities, but okeeeeee
KonstantinRomeow
KonstantinRomeow
08 Jun 23:45 # Show original
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Chertt
Chertt
09 Jun 01:22 # Show original
@KonstantinRomeow: I'm currently waiting for a series on the Warhammer universe with him. As far as I understand, he has great respect for this universe and carefully makes sure that the series is not made a pass. If it comes out well, then I will be honored and praised by him
dimaranetka
dimaranetka
08 Jun 15:23 # Show original
you probably forgot about the kisses of the Eighth and Grace, the Ninth and Jack, the Tenth and Madame Pompadour, the Tenth and Cristina de Sousa, the Eleventh and Clara Oswin Oswald
And I still don't count Amy, Rory, Joan, Missy, Queen Elizabeth I and all the others I could forget about.
Chertt
Chertt
08 Jun 15:29 # Show original
@dimaranetka: Fair enough, I forgot. Then I don't know why I don't like this doctor in this regard, although otherwise I have no complaints about him at all
id4092163
id4092163
08 Jun 17:00 # Show original
@dimaranetka: The tenth was still kissing, with Astrid from Titanic) Jackie also somehow sucked him in, if you already count all the kisses)
dimaranetka
dimaranetka
08 Jun 17:02 # Show original
I was thinking about Astrid, but I thought maybe I made up that kiss myself. 😅
id150317179
id150317179
08 Jun 21:49 # Show original
@dimaranetka: + The Tenth and Martha, the Tenth and Donna (although not quite in romantic situations), the Eleventh and Idris, the Eleventh and Nefertiti, the Eleventh and Marilyn Monroe behind the scenes
Adrasteya
Adrasteya
08 Jun 21:50 # Show original
@id4092163: The tenth kissed literally all the companions. Donna and Marta were forgotten.
Нестин
Нестин
09 Jun 22:50 # Show original
@id4092163: I'm crying, the Tenth kissed the heroine Kylie Minogue, and now the Fifteenth is framing a guy to her song)
PennyBrooks
PennyBrooks
14 Jun 22:12 # Show original
@dimaranetka: Still, those kisses turned out to be sudden, for business and without looking into each other's eyes slowly into each other's eyes
id150317179
id150317179
08 Jun 21:28 # Show original
@Chertt: Are you serious? Yes , the Tenth and Eleventh kissed everyone they met
Chertt
Chertt
09 Jun 01:24 # Show original
@id150317179: Well, my memory is already failing, so many years have passed since watching it. I kind of admitted a mistake.
id506040974
id506040974
08 Jun 21:52 # Show original
@Chertt: and the story of River and the Doctor has made its final round in the series husbands of River Song
iasra
iasra
09 Jun 13:16 # Show original
@Chertt: Yes, it was creepy... No, it's fine, the Doctor is not averse to having fun, rolls up to the guy he likes, everything is fine, vital. But it should have been easy to beat, and they made a serious drama out of a "relationship" that lasted several hours at most. There is just a dissonance of "I don't believe".
Maybe_Karl
Maybe_Karl
08 Jun 15:02 # Show original
Gaspod, how good the series made me feel. although of course there is something to criticize, but not x o h e t with me.
one of the scriptwriters worked on the first season of Loki, I immediately felt something familiar, for which I fell in love with Loki then. the same feelings when you sit in tension, then you want to yell.

just got carried away with a joke "- A barn? This is my ship. - Are you traveling in a barn? .. - I love my barn. "Why isn't he disguised?" - He's standing behind a tree!" 😂
Billy Irish and Gaga performed by the orchestra are also lol.
just_apple
just_apple
08 Jun 16:58 # Show original
OMG and when was Gaga?
JaneWatson
JaneWatson
PRO
08 Jun 17:16 # Show original
When Ruby and the girl in the blue dress were fighting
Jeronimoo
Jeronimoo
PRO
08 Jun 15:26 # Show original
Gentlemen, what a beautiful series!When the scan was done, I was just blown away, an amazing moment all the Doctors, especially 10 and even the Fugitive Joe Martin showed it to waau!So the timeless child arch will be back, I'm really looking forward to it!Rogue is wonderful, I really liked him, it's a pity he didn't agree to travel with him..Let the Rogue performed by Jonathan Groff return, he and the Joke Doctor could play a great couple further! It would be a great companion, a direct reference to Jack)))As much as I love historical series, such series are simply the best in the Doctor!the reference to the Bridgetons is just amazing, I also really love this series!!!I was blown away when the Doctor danced with Rogue, but it was still very beautiful!The series is simply gorgeous!!!!In principle, I don't really like the idea of a Doctor in love, but here the chemistry between the characters filled all the time and space, so let's have more)) I am very glad that Ruby and the Doctor are definitely friends!!And Rogue looks like Colin Firth :))) I like Dr. Jokey, I'm falling in love with him even more, I just can't believe how cute he is!! I like that he is plastic, emotional, open, sexy. Why not? At the same time, I see the same Doctor as he was. Oh, if I had met Jack, that would have been a turnaround!!I don't know anything, I really want Jack back!!!
And Ruby is such a cutie!! And I like the way she hugged the Doctor at the end!!! And the actress who played in Torchwood, wow!Another direct reference to Jack))))In general, I am absolutely in love!!!😍
FokaPossum
FokaPossum
09 Jun 02:47 # Show original
@Jeronimoo: Me, Too, Rogue reminded Firth))
dasfeuerordal
dasfeuerordal
08 Jun 16:23 # Show original
The scene with the Kylie Minogue song is now one of my favorites, it was wonderful 😁
fakechbale
fakechbale
11 Jun 01:17 # Show original
Please remind me, where was Kylie Minogue's song in the episode? I missed something.
fakechbale
fakechbale
11 Jun 01:38 # Show original
Ah, on Rogue's ship, I'm sorry 😅
KonstantinRomeow
KonstantinRomeow
11 Jun 01:42 #
@fakechbale: в корабле Rogue её Доктор включал звуковой отвёрткой несколько раз, пока стоял в треугольной ловушке
ksekolesova
ksekolesova
08 Jun 16:42 # Show original
Great episode!!!! And this hope that the doctor will find Rogue after all
Regis-emiel
Regis-emiel
08 Jun 17:11 # Show original
It's a bit of a secondary and standard doctoral series, but probably every Doctor needs one.
A very cool Rogue. It was nice to look at them with the Doctor.
Ruby is so wise and understanding beyond her years.
But the most important thing, of course, is the canonization or a Prank!Doctors, or Doctors from the Curse of inevitable Death! :D Both are great, give me two. :)
Darkes
Darkes
08 Jun 17:55 # Show original
The series causes a storm of emotions, I really wanted Emily to join the adventures in the Tardis and discover new wonderful worlds, similar to Wicca from the era of the 1st Doctor. But alas. And Rogue, too... even if they just crossed paths from time to time, he is a very colorful character, and I hope his story is not over...

Perhaps it was possible to twist the plot in some other way to resolve the situation, but emotionally it plays right on the strings of the soul. There is a cheerful flirtation, and danger, and hope, and a collision with loss... At the end, there was such a sweet moment when Ruby didn't buy the Doctor's fake smile, these hugs were really needed.
albinka_
albinka_
08 Jun 18:15 # Show original
The series is just so "rollicking" turned out :D"the monsters in this series are funny.

The moment when the Doctor got so carried away running around with the handsome guy that he forgot about Ruby, and then realized that he couldn't protect her - had a huge dramatic potential, but in the end it seemed to be smeared with further buffoonery and rapid disclosure of the setup With Ruby.

Well, it's funny, of course, the scene with the dilemma and the kiss:
from the Doctor's side, it looked like Rogue: dramatic words, romance.
but if you turn the camera the other way at this moment:
at this time, the owls and Ruby are ready to go to meet death: 🗿🗿 🗿🗿🗿🗿

The Doctor's love affair was not surprising in principle, Rogue turned out to be such an open-minded adventurer + sacrificed himself to save Doc's companion. For me, it seemed like some kind of mixture of the 11th+Jack's. The format was reminiscent of a series with Kylie Minogue - the same chemistry between her and the Doctor and a sad ending. Kylie's song was also a direct reference.
DoctorSong
DoctorSong
08 Jun 19:31 # Show original
Invite Jonathan Groff and not let him sing😱

The birds dreamed of finding someone from the royal family and missed King George III.
MarkRaffer
MarkRaffer
08 Jun 20:41 # Show original
@DoctorSong: yes, there's also this reference to Mindhunter
, and in general - they would also invite Lin Manuel Miranda, but Goff is good - that's right.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ozDDHUsi6I
MarkRaffer
MarkRaffer
08 Jun 19:41 # Show original
Why won't Jack Harkness be re-launched for this Doctor?
Pthah
Pthah
08 Jun 21:33 # Show original
@MarkRaffer: Because it means bringing back Torchwood, which means admitting that they are not the first with LGBT characters and are not as brave as they position themselves here, and that the old fans of the Doctor are not really homophobes, but just ask for well-written plots
MarkRaffer
MarkRaffer
08 Jun 21:52 # Show original
@Pthah: Furiously I spit and shake hands!
EmilD
EmilD
08 Jun 22:25 # Show original
@Pthah: what? Jack literally appeared in Doctor Who for the first time and kissed the Ninth Doctor in the Season 1 finale
id150317179
id150317179
08 Jun 22:32 # Show original
@Pthah: What are you talking about...
the existence of Torchwood has not been canceled. And no one denied that LGBT characters were in DC from the very beginning.
It would sound crazy at all, considering that RTD wrote them himself.
EmilD
EmilD
08 Jun 22:34 # Show original
@id150317179: This is despite the fact that RTD has been writing about LGBT (mostly gay) characters since the beginning of his career, but at the same time two girls wrote the series.
Pthah
Pthah
11 Jun 16:49 # Show original
@EmilD: And I'm denying it, I'm just writing about it, aren't I? I say that with any criticism of plot holes and atypical behavior of the Doctor, they shout back - you're just homophobic, so you don't like it, although there was diversity in everything from the very beginning
EmilD
EmilD
11 Jun 19:01 # Show original
@Pthah:
No, you actually wrote some nonsense about courage and positioning, there is no smell of criticism here
Pthah
Pthah
11 Jun 22:39 #
@id150317179: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-13509253/Doctor-fans-chemistry-Ncuti-Gatwa-Jonathan-Groff-kiss.html
Pthah
Pthah
11 Jun 22:50 # Show original
@EmilD: and I didn't criticize, I explained why Jack wasn't there, because many people shout about courage in Doctor Who,
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-13509253/Doctor-fans-chemistry-Ncuti-Gatwa-Jonathan-Groff-kiss.html
forgetting that Doctor Who has always been brave (although this Doctor is just constantly running away from something)
But you immediately rushed at me with the claim that I deny Torchwood and Jack, apparently not having read my comment very carefully
EmilD
EmilD
12 Jun 10:00 # Show original
@Pthah:
I still don't understand.,
Why is there no Jack? Uh, because he's not really needed there and this is a new story? And not even considering the fact that Barrowman was canceled a few years ago.
Well, they shout and shout, what difference does it make to us at all
iasra
iasra
12 Jun 15:43 # Show original
@EmilD: Well, Barrowman was kind of a recently invited guest. This is when the promo was expected, but it turned out to be almost a cameo (
EmilD
EmilD
12 Jun 20:36 # Show original
@iasra: just after that, the details of his behavior on the set of DC surfaced and he didn't even apologize and that's it, kirdyk
iasra
iasra
14 Jun 12:47 # Show original
@EmilD: Yeah, it's a pity... He may be an asshole, but his character is loved by everyone)
KonstantinRomeow
KonstantinRomeow
08 Jun 23:54 # Show original
@MarkRaffer: John Barrowman (the actor who played Jack) has a problem with the cancellation culture. It seems like he walked around the set of the first season of Doctor Who without panties and showed everyone his chinchief. Although if you believe the rumors, there was some kind of chaos on the set of season 1 in this regard, the actor who played Mickey Smith was also canceled for inappropriate behavior.
MarkRaffer
MarkRaffer
09 Jun 00:00 # Show original
@KonstantinRomeow: so it's time to cancel the cancellers)))
Crystal_Witch
Crystal_Witch
08 Jun 19:52 # Show original
I thought it was Jack, an interesting character, but too calm, I liked the sarcastic Jack
MarkRaffer
MarkRaffer
08 Jun 20:35 #
@Crystal_Witch: это Лицо Бо!
malika_2903
malika_2903
08 Jun 20:45 # Show original
Oh my Bridgerton! This series is really more about the Bridgertons than about the real 19th century. Did you hear Billy Irish's Bad guy performed by the orchestra when the Doctor met Rogue? And this chemistry between them? Rogue reminds me of Jack too. It's been a long time since the Doctor had a love interest (specifically from the Doctor's side), in my opinion, since the time of Moffat.
Why didn't the Doctor use the ring as a way to find Rogue? There must have been DNA left there, or it could have been found somehow by the ring. Or even by ship-that's where the DNA and information about Rogue are enough. It's kind of far-fetched that the Doctor can't find him.
I knew Ruby would need combat mode. I just don't understand why she went after Emily in the first place. Watching the series is one thing, but specifically going to eavesdrop on the personal conversations of real people is somehow not very
Pthah
Pthah
08 Jun 21:31 # Show original
@malika_2903: It seems to me that the screenwriters are not familiar with the previous Doctors, as well as with the logic and character development.
Adrasteya
Adrasteya
08 Jun 22:09 # Show original
@Pthah: Indeed, how would the showrunner of the first four seasons of New School know anything about previous Doctors and character development?
Pthah
Pthah
11 Jun 16:52 # Show original
@Adrasteya: Then how do you answer the question "Why didn't the Doctor use the ring as a way to find Rogue? There must have been DNA left there, or it could have been found somehow by the ring. Or even by ship-that's where the DNA and information about Rogue are enough. It's kind of far-fetched that the Doctor can't find him."?
Adrasteya
Adrasteya
11 Jun 18:07 # Show original
@Pthah: and how do you know that you haven't used it or aren't using it? Have you watched the season yet? And the next one?
dmarsova
dmarsova
08 Jun 22:32 # Show original
Did you hear Billy Irish's Bad guy performed by the orchestra?
Oh yeah!! And it was wonderful!

About "eavesdropping": I did not understand that there was an affair between them, I thought something was threatening Emily.
albinka_
albinka_
09 Jun 13:58 # Show original
@malika_2903: It also seemed strange that the Doctor so simply refused to search, and also the person who told him directly to Find me - it's sooo not in the spirit of the doctor - just give up quickly. Yes, the doctor would comb all the universes. I believe that there is some kind of trick here, and he will still try to find it.
MarkRaffer
MarkRaffer
09 Jun 14:22 # Show original
@albinka_: It's such an open final... after the episode is released, they will collect opinion polls, focus groups, and so on, and if successful, they will continue to develop this topic, and if the people did NOT go, they will not remember. But judging by everything, the groundwork for the next season is still laid and the theme is to live! And the ring, plus the way the ship looks, is more than enough for the Doctor to start searching.
albinka_
albinka_
09 Jun 14:30 # Show original
@MarkRaffer: Well, maybe)
But such an easy refusal to search seems to impoverish the character of the Dock that we already know. I could have wanted to find it, but if this plot hadn't gone to the audience after all, something would have just happened that wouldn't have allowed me to complete the search. :D like not "Doc instantly gave up on his dramatic/romantic feelings", but "the universe did not let him be happy and took away a loved one again :D
MarkRaffer
MarkRaffer
09 Jun 14:40 # Show original
@albinka_: That's also true!
Борисхренубьешь
Борисхренубьешь
08 Jun 20:53 # Show original
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08 Jun 21:23 # Show original
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EmilD
EmilD
08 Jun 22:18 #
@Борисхренубьешь:
ничего себе, аж специально зарегистрировались на майшоус, чтобы оставить этот комментарий, ни разу не подозрительно!
Борисхренубьешь
Борисхренубьешь
08 Jun 22:25 # Show original
@EmilD: Yes.
I specifically registered.
I am an operative of the Kremlin.
EmilD
EmilD
08 Jun 22:30 # Show original
@Borishrenubish: I'm sorry, Comrade Major!
Pthah
Pthah
08 Jun 21:28 # Show original
At first I thought that Disney would not dare to kiss, but they did..
EmilD
EmilD
08 Jun 22:16 #
@Pthah: так дисней тут причем?
TheWinnie
TheWinnie
PRO
09 Jun 00:22 # Show original
@EmilD: Now it's Disney, like apparently all the media space
OrangeElephant
OrangeElephant
09 Jun 03:07 #
@TheWinnie: и снова. Нет, не Дисней. Да, они купили международные права на показ за большие деньги, и да, продюсеры Дисней+ могут давать свои комментарии по производству. Как и куча других людей. РТД им следовать не обязан
Сериал полностью принадлежит BBC, последнее слово за ними, как и раньше
EmilD
EmilD
09 Jun 10:55 #
@TheWinnie: ну для тех, кто ищет причины, за что бы поругать сериал, конечно, а так нет, производством сериала занимаются BBC Studios и Bad Wolf, Дисней только дал денег, чтобы на своих территориях показывать
iasra
iasra
09 Jun 13:23 #
@EmilD: bad Wolf: эээ, он не имеет отношение к "злому волку" со второго сезона?
EmilD
EmilD
09 Jun 15:48 #
@iasra:
XD
Bad Wolf это компания основанная бывшими (и снова нынешними) продюссершами Доктора Кто Джейн Трантер и Джули Гарднер (они делали такие сериалы как Темные начала, Открытие Ведьма, Однажды ночью, Я ненавижу Сьюзи) и с 2022 года они продюсируют Доктора Кто наравне с БиБиСи.
snorkelle
snorkelle
08 Jun 22:14 # Show original
There are no words... if only one could put a thousand stars in this series... Gods, it's beautifully shot. And the music! And this is the electricity between the Doctor and the Cheat. And what a contrast between the series about goblin and spaceships and these latest episodes. It's so good that I didn't leave the Doctor, disappointed at the beginning of the season. Now Doctor Who is 100% the one that causes a flurry of emotions. I love it!
Meerjungfrau666
Meerjungfrau666
08 Jun 23:12 # Show original
How quickly their relationship developed... I really liked Ruby here! She played it really well.

There are no words about the Doctor, only emotions ...🙈
KonstantinRomeow
KonstantinRomeow
08 Jun 23:28 #
Если бы в своё время Чибнелл не зассал и сделал на экране поцелуй Тринадцатой Доктора и Яз - то особо чувствительные зрители уже были бы подготовлены к таким страстным однополым поцелуям Доктора. Всё-таки с Джеком Харкнессом и Крейгом Оуэнсом оно как-то поскромнее было.
Хотя за счёт того что Доктор в поцелуе сыграл пассивную роль, это всё равно будет самый controversial эпизод "Доктора Кто" на долгие годы вперёд. Что говорить, выше уже 80 комментариев настрочили, мне даже читать страшно. Не хочу опять застрять в борьбе адекватов с гомофобами...

Обидно правда что помимо собственно поцелуя обсудить под этим эпизодом особо и нечего. После трёх великолепнейших эпизодов до этого, "Rogue" на мой вкус вышел довольно скучным.
Я (наверное зря) после просмотра "Бума", "73 ярдов" и "Точки с пузырём" подходил к просмотру "Rogue" (кстати, мне больше нравится перевод "Бродяга", а не "Плут", лучше отражает суть персонажа) с завышенными ожиданиями, и поскольку даже треть этих ожиданий по итогу не оправдалась- я оценил этот эпизод даже ниже чем "Космических деток" и "Дьявольский аккорд". То есть лично для меня это пока худший эпизод эпохи РТД2.

Повторюсь - ничего не имею против поцелуев Доктора с мужиками, Крейг Оуэнс это вообще лучшая вайфу с которой Доктор когда-либо в дёсны лобызался, но тут вот свежие сценаристки не смогли вокруг поцелуя создать достаточно интересную историю или персонажей, а шикарную атмосферу просто скопировали с "Бриджертонов" и думали что их неоднократное упоминание в самом эпизоде означает что всё Окей.

Но однозначно плюсую за выбор Кайли Миноуг для песни в корабле Rogue (интересно, если во вселенной "Доктора Кто" есть Кайли Миноуг, то Доктора не удивило поразительное сходство Астрид Перт с певицей которая ему нравится?) и за инструментальную версию "Poker Face" Леди Гаги, и за шикарный наряд Милли Гибсон.
dmarsova
dmarsova
09 Jun 00:43 # Show original
@KonstantinRomeow: Plut or a more familiar translation of the archetype into DND.)
Lesia05
Lesia05
09 Jun 00:06 # Show original
I hope we'll see Rogue again! There was too much chemistry not to bring him back in the future)
But I'm surprised that the Doctor gave up so quickly "we won't find it, no chance" 🤷♀️
TheWinnie
TheWinnie
PRO
09 Jun 00:26 # Show original
people see men kissing, and immediately the chemistry of snot drool...)))
as a gay man, I condemn such a love line, hashtag bring back River Song.
and according to the plot, so far the most boring episode of the season.
EmilD
EmilD
09 Jun 10:53 #
@TheWinnie:
геи геям рознь, я как гей прекрасно увидел химию еще до поцелуя, но я просто вообще за асексуального Доктора, как 9 и 12, поэтому мне в целом поцелуй не зашел, но опять же 10 и 11 тоже целовались с кучей народу.
dmarsova
dmarsova
09 Jun 00:36 # Show original
I'm just. She screamed!! Thank you, as they say, for the fan service.
Olululala
Olululala
09 Jun 01:23 # Show original
I did not expect that they would turn out a Bridgerton-style series literally like a cosplay for the Bridgertons)
I'm just shocked by the chemistry between the Doctor and Rogue!! It feels like the interaction of the Tenth and Madame Pompadour, and also the finale in the same style 💔

These Choldurs are very interesting aliens, I would like to see them cosplay someone else :D
FokaPossum
FokaPossum
09 Jun 02:47 #
святые шипперские печенюшки! эта химия между Доктором и Роугом...
pinta_vodki
pinta_vodki
09 Jun 04:34 # Show original
When you come to read the comments, expecting that everyone was bombed, but it turns out that everyone liked everything. Wholesome. 💅
EmilD
EmilD
09 Jun 11:00 #
@pinta_vodki:
я не очень понимаю, как люди смотрят сериал, если от такого может бомбануть, издание Дедлайн так вообще написало, что это первый однополый поцелуй в истории сериала (чевоо??), когда как у нас были: поцелуй 9 и Джека, 11 и Рори, Вастра и Дженни, Билл и Хэзер, два чувака из серии Праксей, ну то есть за 60 лет это мало, но в любом случае, в этой серии не было ничего такого внезапного и вызывающего, чтобы можно было возмущаться и орать, что Доктор Кто умер, хотя некоторые уже 7 лет продолжают это кричать, а сериал все никак не помрет.
id264460076
id264460076
09 Jun 12:28 # Show original
Well, with the first same-sex one, they officially borscht😁😁😁
Нестин
Нестин
09 Jun 23:30 # Show original
@EmilD: everything is fine. They just wrote the article for 19 years.
azabeth_who
azabeth_who
09 Jun 05:02 #
ох, ну по эмоциональной составляющей - угодили, нечего сказать, все кинки погладили, гиперфиксации подсветили, Кайли Миноуг включили; серотонинчик скакнул как после хорошего фанфика, даже несмотря на bittersweet концовку (на фанфичном языке я бы определила ее как "хороший плохой конец", потому что после "Find me" Роуга ни о чем, кроме того что возможность его найти существует, уже не думается).

серия вообще во многом воспринимается как фанфик - то ли по Доктору Кто, то ли по Бриджертонам, но в хорошем смысле. типа, вот как чолдуры играют в Бриджертонов, так и сценаристы с актерами забавляются в своё удовольствие.

сам косплей на Бриджертонов - удался максимально, самое то в ожидании второй части сезона.

и самое главное: Джонатан Грофф! просто потрясающий. пришёл на один эпизод и раз**бал. наиграл так, как будто премию Лоуренса Оливье собрался за эту роль получать. очень надеюсь ещё его увидеть, благо все предпосылки для этого есть.

сюжет - ну да, не самый выдающийся, но душой я так отдохнула, что вообще не хочется придираться. да, пристрастна, да, необъективна - подумаешь.

п.с. пролайкала все комментарии про химию Доктора и Роуга, с одной стороны - совершенно неудивительно, с такими-то актерами, там с первой сцены на балконе всё понятно было, с другой - почему-то совершенно застало врасплох, хотя я всю дорогу сравнивала их с Десятым и Мадам Помпадур, там где-то на той же отметке искрило, но надо пересмотреть.

чрезмерная эмоциональность Доктора правда начинает подбешивать, но это я в какой-нибудь другой раз прокомментирую, эта серия - только для серотонина!
GamoriC
GamoriC
09 Jun 06:26 # Show original
I don't really like the historical Doctor series, although there are some really cool ones, but this is officially the worst.

The alien theme itself is not bad and it could be interesting to promote it, BUT instead we'll cram in a chela-whose-name-I-didn't-remember, add an inarticulate romantic and a kiss (???) which I actually fell out of.

The Doctor had been tactile before and kissed (or was kissed) everyone around, but for the most part it was in the style of How cool I came up with, let me kiss. And this is a romantic slag sucked out of my finger "oh, a random nouname that we've known for a couple of hours, I fell in love" + strange tackles and all this with some kind of sexual overtones. "Travel with Me" - why and why? Satellites are usually revealed somehow (although not always skillfully), they have features that attract the doctor, so he invites them on a trip, and this one is just a cardboard box.

There were a lot of cool romantic lines in the series (both the doctor and the companions), which are nice to look at, and this turned the whole series off. Well, the sufferers just finished me off in the end. Seriously? If it weren't for this near romance, I would also be sad "the dude lost a loved one, and now he's sacrificing himself to save others, poor guy :'(". But no, the attempt at romance caused only disgust and joy from self-sacrifice.
MarkRaffer
MarkRaffer
09 Jun 10:14 # Show original
@GamoriC: it's just that the current Doctor is a kind of lustful dog in search of a boyfriend and in every possible way it sticks out... Well, that's the strategy of the creators for this season and that's why they took the Rwandan.
id4092163
id4092163
09 Jun 08:54 # Show original
It seems to me that the idea of "as in the Bridgertons" is implemented a bit damp: if there is an element of alternative history in the Bridgertons (Queen Charlotte distributed reparations in the form of lands and titles to the inhabitants of the colonies), then where does the university come from here, in a kind of real past? Or do we stick to the fact that the story has been bleached, as the Twelfth said?
id4092163
id4092163
09 Jun 09:19 # Show original
The fact that the Doctor suddenly fell for Rogue and began to persuade him to travel together, it just seemed to me in the spirit of the good old RTD — The Doctor had previously chosen his companions quite spontaneously and randomly, there was just a more platonic sympathy, and then — well, he caught a crash, the Fifteenth is an emotional dude) It also seemed to me that when he flirted, he tried too hard, as if he had not yet settled into a new identity, it was cute) It turned out to be strange with Ruby —he could have looked after her better if he had already realized that people were being killed here.
Nog
Nog
09 Jun 09:30 #
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Dark_Punk
Dark_Punk
09 Jun 11:04 # Show original
Why copy Jack? Moreover, it is so pathetic, he looks at the Doctor with the eyes of a puppy from the first scene, even when he tries to kill him. Villains... Uh, I remembered the vampires from Venice, and these are clearly losing. At first, the series said that young people can't even take a step without the Internet, now that cosplayers are crazy, I'm 36, I don't want to get so old, sit on a bench and groan: oh, these young people, they'll see enough on their internets and let's change clothes at the entrances, not like us... Damn, it turns out good youth)))
Nog
Nog
09 Jun 11:17 #
Leonius
Leonius
09 Jun 13:01 # Show original
Every episode I think about the Doctor: where is it worse? Almost at the bottom and so on.
In the previous ones, I didn't look where I stood up.
In the same one, he stupidly scored on a companion, meeting the version of Jack from the Ali Express.
It's just that Ruby could have been fried a hundred times already while he was talking with this Rogue.

And no, I didn't see any chemistry between the characters.
There is zero sympathy for Rogue at all, who is needed for what. Just some kind of cosmic upstart.
If you really want to turn into this steppe, bring Jack back, it will be much cooler.

A disgusting series.
I hope Rogue doesn't come back.
iasra
iasra
09 Jun 13:35 #
Серия неплохая, но как-то вся лав стори Доктора выглядит наигранно. Понравился парень, решил за ним приударить, ок, все понятно и мило) но зачем было потом такую внеземную любовь изображать? Все их знакомство это парочка часов от силы! Слишком наигранно получилось, даже при том что они "играли" для курочек)
Кстати, сами "курочки" как и писали выше, очень пересекаются с семьёй крови, и вампирами в Венеции. Но тем не менее, очень забавные) кстати, а звуки что они издавали, в некоторых сериалах так озвучивали динозавров)))
Серия милая, но проходная. Разве что портрет бабули,"злым волком" или "трещиной" создаёт связь)
Сам Роуг тоже не сильно впечатлил, понимаю почему сравнивают с капитаном Джэком, но Джэк был гораздо харизматичные, да и что тут говорить, симпатичнее)))
А вот самое интересное из серии, это анонс следующей серии)))
id5098067
id5098067
09 Jun 15:48 # Show original
Some kind of Rogue in this series is Captain Jack Harkness on minimals. Also a blue loner wanderer with his spaceship. Some kind of Vibe seemed to me.

And now for the series.
The actions in this series developed in a very formulaic way. It's too formulaic.
Why was the triangular portal set up for 5 (-and suddenly there will be another + 1, let's go for 6 -come on), an amendment for 6 people, and not say 10 there (so as to reserve), well, or there would be enough power for a maximum of 3-4. Why is everything so predictable in the plot? Why is it set up for 5 monsters and 1 person?

Ruby has an unsolved arch with a magical Christmas and her mother who abandoned her. Her story armor will not let her die. I thought she was the one walking arm in arm down the aisle. And so it turned out. Next, standing in the portal. Well, she can't die. Story armor, unclosed arches. While the Doctor is in a stupor, Captain Jack NeVorobey Harkness changes with Ruby on minimals. Well, it was obvious. And the ring will remain somewhere in a box with the same trinkets in the secluded bins of the Tardis.
Togusa
Togusa
09 Jun 16:04 #
Хищные косплееры. "Мы закосплеим эту планету до смерти". 6 баллов из пяти.
Brutal_kenny
Brutal_kenny
09 Jun 16:29 #
Does somebody else heard bad guy song on background when Doctor had conversation on balcony?😂😂😂
small_mystic
small_mystic
09 Jun 17:34 # Show original
A feigned, not interesting series..The doctor is behaving flatly.. This guy is also kind of ridiculous.. I didn't consider chemistry.. Ruby is still playing poorly. The most important thing is that I didn't see any interesting ideas here.. What is the series about? For what? Or maybe she's just hanging me up because I can't stand the Bridgertons..
After the previous three episodes, I had at least some hopes after the scenario failure of the 13th.. And here comes the disappointment again
Шпрот
Шпрот
09 Jun 20:02 # Show original
It's an amazing series, so touching. Can I have a series where the Doctor and Rogue are just chillin' in space🥺
If Ruby beat this alien cock in combat mode, then I don't understand why the Doctor and his friend wouldn't just kick them off the fence or soak them with a laser🤷
iasra
iasra
09 Jun 21:30 #
@Шпрот: насчёт лазером не замочили, тут уже Доктор не позволит) он же пацифист) убивать нет нет, а страдать 600 лет это другое дело)
oceankeith
oceankeith
09 Jun 21:37 # Show original
Just a nightmare........
Нестин
Нестин
09 Jun 22:00 # Show original
I remembered that Jokey wanted to play a Doctor or Willy Wonka, and now he's playing a Doctor singing a Willy Wonka song)
Ourania
Ourania
10 Jun 00:00 # Show original
Finally, the series was pleased with a good actor. In the seasons with Whittaker, Stephen Fry was there and the eye admired Sasha Dhawan.
Jonathan Groff is a handsome man and played the love interest subtly, neatly. Jokey, unfortunately, was on the verge of vulgarity, flirting with Rogue like a tipsy girl. Gatwa has not yet found the dreams of his past lives and experiences.
The script is flawed in terms of logic. DC left a man in a problematic situation, although it is possible to track the movement of Rogue and establish his identity both through the ship and through the ring. The DC must know the planet and the era in which the bounty hunters worked.

The dance of Rogue and DK is beautifully and sensually staged.
schizosarah
schizosarah
PRO
10 Jun 00:47 # Show original
The Doctor is not a Doctor without love story with episodic characters ahah, although, apparently, we will see Rogue again. well, in general, Jonathan Groff and the historical DC > series;>> everything else
sally_ride
sally_ride
10 Jun 00:59 # Show original
The Doctor is engaged now, is that it?
jenix
jenix
10 Jun 01:15 # Show original
It's such a strange feeling, to be honest. I remember the Doctor's series, for example, the Girl in the fireplace... Yes, even now I feel tears welling up, how strong and emotional it was. And this series... It seems like drama and tears and love, beautiful, and musical inserts on the strings of my soul, and does not awaken emotions. Stupor. I look and do not understand what it is, why it is, how and why?
Poker face.
But the surroundings are magnificent: majestic and romantic, but dry. Very dry.
I feel like a Doctor who pressed a button and everything disappeared into endless multiverse.
It's like feelings have gone down the drain and are now drifting somewhere in the vast expanses of the cosmic vacuum.
jenix
jenix
10 Jun 01:18 # Show original
@jenix: and someone else will have to suffer for 600 years.
Maybe he knew, the sly one?
The dodger sees the dodger from afar.
Пенгвин
Пенгвин
10 Jun 10:37 # Show original
It bothers me a little that the Doctor flirts with all the men. Men used to flirt with him and he was so sweetly embarrassed. And now he himself has moved into the ranks of the Alphasamite.

If it's a gay relationship, then only with a Master!!!! And that's it!!!
mv_stepanova22
mv_stepanova22
PRO
10 Jun 10:44 #
mv_stepanova22
mv_stepanova22
PRO
10 Jun 10:45 #
mv_stepanova22
mv_stepanova22
PRO
10 Jun 10:46 #
mv_stepanova22
mv_stepanova22
PRO
10 Jun 10:47 #
sviraman
sviraman
PRO
10 Jun 13:45 # Show original
I need a spinoff about Groff
nutthugger
nutthugger
10 Jun 16:24 # Show original
I am not very happy that this doctor does not have a canonical bow, but the local vibe of Prince suits him very well
fellirs_
fellirs_
10 Jun 17:18 # Show original
I didn't like it. The doctor has become too emotional and does absolutely nothing. in each episode, there are tears, some kind of stupor and incredible emotional speeches. the rogue line looks very bad, there is absolutely no chemistry, it is unclear where all this came from and most importantly why. previously, the doctor was emotionally attached to someone for a very long time, and even when he was attached, he tried to restrain himself, but then he did not have time to meet immediately incredible love, kisses and tears. It's still unclear why he immediately forgot about him even though Rogue asked him to find him.
sally_ride
sally_ride
11 Jun 20:04 # Show original
Yes, where do you see "incredible love" and "immediately forgot"?
driveshaft
driveshaft
PRO
10 Jun 17:31 # Show original
Some kind of fat fan fiction, not a series of the series. Everything is so typical for fan fiction. Only recently, the Doctor said that he would have more grandchildren and children. And then suddenly men were attracted, when even Jack was not molested. Because of this gay romance, the Cheat was not really revealed. Just some cute kid, and it doesn't matter who he is or where he comes from. But the Doctor, who survived the time war and the destruction of Gallifrey, is killed by a fleeting feeling.

Ruby is being persistently tried to kill. The second time already. Or the third, if you count the witch's circle. It will become the second Clara. Here she seems to have an open outfit for the first time, emphasizing her dignity.

I was amused by the phrase that the Doctor accidentally invented asphalt. And how he cosplayed Wonka.

It's good that Dr. Ruth was included in the number of regenerations. But it is still unclear what she is in the bill.

The granny from the upcoming series is probably one of the pantheon of Chaos.
riffat
riffat
10 Jun 18:09 # Show original
The plot is weak and the monsters are a bit cringe, I, as a cosplayer (in particular on DC), wonder what we didn't like so much 😁
But the chemistry of the Doctor and Rogue saved the series! Just because of them and because of the charm, Ruby is ready to bet 10/10. I watched them with bated breath the whole episode, and at the end they broke into tears. In general, I hope that the Doctor will save Rogue after all, and we will see their interaction again. #Rogue Satellites

The season is good, the best in the whole new school, I think. One episode is better than the other. The DC that I once loved has finally returned.
riffat
riffat
10 Jun 18:45 # Show original
I noticed a funny fact, the doctor gets the most interesting love lines with people whose name begins with R: Rose, River, now Rogue 😁
MarkRaffer
MarkRaffer
10 Jun 19:00 # Show original
@riffat: Rory Pond?
rothaarigefuchs
rothaarigefuchs
10 Jun 19:22 # Show original
No, I understand everything, but tango in 1813!
Ourania
Ourania
10 Jun 19:49 # Show original
Most of the series has passed and it seems to me that RTD cannot find the main melody in any way. Wouldn't it have been easier to make a series - refutation of Chibnell with the Foundling Doctor, Gallifreyan mutations and the destruction of half the universe and then give yourself up to fantasy. Why did the Doctor think that the Master was telling the truth about his origin?

The scripts are full of references to previous seasons, but the shrillness and slight bitterness have disappeared. I remember the feeling of "The Girl in the fireplace ", where the Marquise's love lasted a lifetime, and Dr. Tennant's a day. Instead of the subtlety of feelings, overcoming oneself in order to open up to another (which was typical of all incarnations) DK flirted with Rogue like a Red Light Street worker luring a client. The tears were not played according to Stanislavsky, but with the help of a makeup artist who overdid it with liquid. The director of the series did a bad job with Jokey. By the middle of the season, Ruby began to play noticeably better.
MarkRaffer
MarkRaffer
10 Jun 19:57 # Show original
@Ourania: we just need to admit once and for all that the victim of the genocide in Rwanda is a very, very, very bad actor, and the fact that he sticks out both his skin color and his orientation, they say - don't you dare criticize me - once again makes his position pathetic.
GamoriC
GamoriC
10 Jun 20:26 # Show original
@MarkRaffer: he is not a bad actor, rather an ordinary and unremarkable one, it's just that either he is forced to play the roles of stereotypical gay men from the 00s, or he can't play anything else yet, because he has not had enough experience.
MarkRaffer
MarkRaffer
10 Jun 20:34 # Show original
@GamoriC: well, that's what they call it - a bad actor, if he can't play anything else, except for stereotypical, or even caricatured images. Well, OK - let it be "unremarkable".
EmilD
EmilD
11 Jun 06:26 #
@MarkRaffer:
> выпячивает и цвет кожи, и свою ориентацию
А потом будешь опять ныть, что ты не шовинист :D
MarkRaffer
MarkRaffer
11 Jun 09:47 # Show original
@EmilD: Oh, my sweet one... Well, why are you reading my lines, if you sent me to ignore, then you're also forcing me to get you out of the ignore? The question, as they say, is rhetorical... but you'd better answer me, since you've been so open about being openly gay, does this actor turn you on? Would you like to have an intimate relationship with him? Is it just a yes or no?
EmilD
EmilD
11 Jun 13:10 #
@MarkRaffer:
кто о чем, а гомофобы о гомо*бле :D Мой хороший, но причем тут это вообще?)
Во-вторых, я пользуюсь старой версией сайта, поэтому увы, комментарии твои игнорить не получается, вот почему ты все время мне отвечаешь, вопрос хороший)
Ну и в-третьих, девушка вообще ни слова не написала ни про цвет кожи, ни про ориентацию, но ты все равно не к месту упомянул их, какой смысл? Твое право считать его плохим актером, только вот актерская игра не зависит ни от пола, ни от цвета кожи, ни от ориентации.

А по поводу "не смейте меня критиковать", такого вообще не было сказано, сам придумал, сам возмущаешься и продолжаешь оскорблять актера, не надоело? Не надоело постоянно оставлять один негатив в комментариях? Буквально один негатив в комментариях от тебя исходит, никто больше этим не занимается. Хоть бы раз что-то хорошее и приятное написал, или что-то такое, чтобы могло побудить интересную дискуссию, нет ведь, надо лить тонну говна каждую, зачем, для кого, для чего вообще, ты кайф от этого ловишь что ли? Или внимание к себе привлекаешь? Вот просто да или нет?
Maybe_Karl
Maybe_Karl
11 Jun 13:41 # Show original
@MarkRaffer:
>Victim of the genocide in Rwanda
>Bulges and skin color
It doesn't carry racism at all per kilometer. Oh, well, yes, also tell me that it's just a humour like that. "GOD, HOW I HATE THIS SMELLY GAY NEGRO HAHAHAHAH.".
Well, what else can you expect from an unremarkable anonymous.
MarkRaffer
MarkRaffer
11 Jun 15:10 # Show original
@EmilD: I asked you to answer YES or NO... I didn't ask for anything else, so why did you put out this sheet that no one is going to read? And why are you so intolerant of me? But this question is also rhetorical... Free!
Ourania
Ourania
11 Jun 15:18 # Show original
@MarkRaffer: In the episode "Boom", Jokey played well, without overplaying. He's the kind of actor who needs a director with clear instructions. The downside is the transfer of the actor's orientation to the character. A professional is obliged to play any role. For example, in the series with Hugh Grant and Wilshaw, Grant played the most convincing gay man.
pavel9609
pavel9609
11 Jun 16:39 # Show original
@MarkRaffer: and how does he stick out his skin color and orientation?
Maybe I don't watch the show well, but I didn't see him constantly saying that he was black. And the interest in guys only appeared in this series./

Or in your opinion, he should have been painted white so as not to embarrass his skin color?
EmilD
EmilD
11 Jun 18:58 # Show original
@MarkRaffer: what does it mean that I am intolerant? How's that? Will you explain?)
Okay, let me answer your question if you justify it to me and tell me what this has to do with our conversation at all?)
AlexBober
AlexBober
10 Jun 20:13 # Show original
More in the aher from the comments than from the series…
Enchantresss
Enchantresss
PRO
10 Jun 20:50 #
🎶Boy, your loving is all i think about🎶
Доктор и Кайли Миноуг - взрывное комбо XD
Hikkmor
Hikkmor
10 Jun 23:43 # Show original
In addition to Billy Irish, there is also a reference to the musical Cabaret (at the moment when the bird personality with his entourage bursts into the dance hall)
mv_stepanova22
mv_stepanova22
PRO
11 Jun 09:37 #
Ourania
Ourania
11 Jun 15:32 # Show original
I don't really understand where the Doctor and Ruby's relationship is heading.
In the rest of the seasons (except for Whittaker), relationships were clearly spelled out: mutual love, unrequited sympathy, teacher-student, strong friendship.
While the relationship is taxiing towards the detective client. Jokey is investigating the mystery of Ruby's origin.
From the point of view of ratings, a romantic is more advantageous. Young girls like to identify themselves with a heroine who is infatuated with a handsome guy.
NaruHinka
NaruHinka
11 Jun 17:00 # Show original
@Ourania: They're not moving anywhere, they're bro. Ruby supports the doctor from series to series, he takes her to places she wants to go and quite confidently calls her her best friend (in this incarnation, of course). And by the way they pour jokes and references in the dialogues, it is obvious that they have a 100% friendly energy.
And the Doctor is not investigating anything, he immediately told Ruby that they would not fly into her past. This is more likely to happen involuntarily, but not from the order.
Ourania
Ourania
11 Jun 18:03 # Show original
@NaruHinka: They will not fly into the past, because there will be a situation like Nine and Rose. But DC was still attracted by the circumstances of Ruby's birth and the phenomenon of snow.
Friendship does not arise at the click of your fingers, it is formed over time. It's closer to friends here; party-goers who are comfortable riding through epochs and galaxies together.
NaruHinka
NaruHinka
11 Jun 18:30 # Show original
@Ourania: Well, no one denies that he is interested. But Ruby does not act as a client in this context, here the comparison with Clara's secret in season 7 is closer. Well, buddies/party-goers are friends. I agree that the timing of the season is not enough to get into a close relationship, but for me it is quite enough to understand the nature of their relationship.
iasra
iasra
11 Jun 18:34 # Show original
@Ourania: according to some points, it is clear that they travel together for longer than they showed in the series. So during this time, friendship could well have arisen.
Takumikun
Takumikun
PRO
14 Jun 21:17 # Show original
@Ourania: well, hz, you probably compare only with the modern Doctor. In the classics, there were often just such relationships as now. They are, as the Bro put it above. Like the Second and Jamie, like the Seventh and Ace, like the Fourth and Sarah Jane. And by the way, it's right that Whittaker was separated because Chibnell in his era was very mowed down to the classics because he was a fan of classics and satellites prescribed as in the classics and the only thing I singled out in season 13
Ricky_LA
Ricky_LA
11 Jun 17:39 # Show original
Like, who also came here to read the comments solely because of this series 😂
Ourania
Ourania
11 Jun 18:03 # Show original
@Ricky_LA: Have you read the comments on the last episode of Good Omens of the second season? ))
MarkRaffer
MarkRaffer
11 Jun 19:48 #
@Ourania: а так же третий эпизод The Last of Us
KonstantinRomeow
KonstantinRomeow
13 Jun 20:28 #
@Ricky_LA: моё любимое столкновение гомофобов с адекватами было под 18 эпизодом 5 сезона "Однажды в сказке" что даже немного обидно, поскольку в том же сериале в эпизодах 7х10 и 7х20 были ЛГБТ поцелуи намного более страстные и жгучие, заслуживающие больше зрительского внимания и активного обсуждения, а до седьмого сезона мало кто досмотрел :-(
EmilD
EmilD
14 Jun 07:14 #
@KonstantinRomeow: сразу видно, ньюфагу, самой лучшее обсуждение этой темы было под той самой серией Черных Парусов, которая долго время удерживала лидерство по комментариям)
KonstantinRomeow
KonstantinRomeow
14 Jun 21:45 #
@EmilD: ну почему сразу "ньюфаг"? Я на этом сайте почти десять лет, с конца августа 2014 года, помню не только времена когда этот сайт был менее токсичным, но даже помню старый дизайн (не тот который сейчас доступен по old.myshows, а тот который был перед ним), помню времена когда комментариев ещё в принципе не было, только возможность отмечать эпизоды просмотренными...

Просто так получилось что я "Чёрные паруса" не смотрел и из них исключительно по мемам знаю только один момент с "бородой" Чёрной Бороды (который возможно даже не из них, а из какой-то порно-пародии на них), а вот в ЛГБТ-сраче под эпизодом "Однажды в сказке" мне посчастливилось поучаствовать, и он запомнился как довольно громкий, потому что как и "Доктор Кто", "Однажды в сказке" считался семейным (чуть ли не детским) сериалом
OrangeElephant
OrangeElephant
15 Jun 13:27 #
@KonstantinRomeow: не-не, момент с "Чёрной Бородой" именно оттуда) Буквально из первой серии
VictoriG
VictoriG
11 Jun 23:48 # Show original
I really liked it. Bright, beautiful and interesting.
But this is the sixth episode and I still have the feeling that something is missing. The episodes are fast and kind of saturated, but something is missing. To understand what…
Ni-Ta
Ni-Ta
PRO
13 Jun 22:30 # Show original
@VictoriG: as if the Doctor's disclosures, demonstrations of intelligence and ingenuity, or something, are dynamic series, but as if they ran, jumped, everything sorted itself out and drove on, I want more moments, such as when the Doctor calculated the exact weight of the container with the remains of a military man, or when they showed that he was scanning Ruby, in general brutal seriousness (as I wrote in the comments in the special episode, not moments with sadness and sadness, but like the Tenth with his "no second chances, that's the kind of person I am")

But I like Joking and I think it's too early to judge, I read in the discussions that he was simultaneously busy filming Sex Education, maybe that's why it seems that the Doctor is not enough and in the future he will reveal himself
andreyck
andreyck
14 Jun 00:03 # Show original
@Ni-Ta: and it's also like the coolness of Dr. prnerfili. He used to be a galactic-scale threat, but now he runs away from the enemy at the first opportunity
Ni-Ta
Ni-Ta
PRO
14 Jun 00:12 # Show original
@andreyck: well, he used to run a lot in order not to die in the first minutes and have time and place to think, and they have become more frequent in recent seasons with the threat of a galactic scale, so it's even good that here in every second episode they don't remind about the impending storm, or else how the effect is lost
VanessaMoor
VanessaMoor
12 Jun 22:32 # Show original
This new acquaintance with the doctor is very pleasant and unusual.
You're sitting there, not touching anyone.
*Billy Irish in the background*
Me: What is it?
* Flirting with heroes*
Me: What is it?

In general, I'm waiting, definitely waiting for new episodes and seasons, because the relaunch is clearly interesting 💃🏼
Alona
Alona
13 Jun 15:55 # Show original
I've finally watched all the released episodes and I can say that I'm just thrilled! Yes, there are questions at some points, but in general everything turned out so dynamically and exciting. In previous seasons, I already thought that the series had simply outlived itself, but it turns out that it hadn't, and that's why it's more insulting for the Thirteenth. In my opinion, Jody had a lot of potential, and he was fucked up.
Of course, there are mixed feelings from this series. It seems that I want the story of the Doctor and Rogue to continue, but I can hardly imagine what could come of it.
SophietheValiant
SophietheValiant
13 Jun 17:43 #
🥳
Kata_Rios
Kata_Rios
13 Jun 21:49 # Show original
Disgusting.
yhogen
yhogen
14 Jun 19:19 # Show original
Ever since I found out about Russell T. Davis's return, I've been waiting for this.
They had just started flirting on the balcony, and already the glass puddled under the table. The doctor is a flirt)) I hope the Doctor finds him.
Not Harkness, but you don't need a second one. Jack is good on his own.
mv_stepanova22
mv_stepanova22
PRO
15 Jun 12:21 #
mv_stepanova22
mv_stepanova22
PRO
15 Jun 12:21 #
Anica22
Anica22
15 Jun 14:03 # Show original
I caught myself in the moments with the Doctor and Rogue, I was sitting with an imbecile smile and couldn't blink. I didn't even realize how much I missed the Doctor's flirting and shippering, even with a passing character. Especially to the Bridgerton orchestral Bad guy 😂

It was thrown into the vibes of the Eleventh and the River, unbearably! And the dance in general reminded Torchwood, where Jack Harkness danced with the real Jack Harkness 💔

I hope the Doctor can find Rogue! Just imagine – Jonathan Groff is a satellite, even for one episode!
lota
lota
17 Jun 12:21 # Show original
I couldn't believe what was happening. Blacks at a ball as guests in the 19th century? This is very unrealistic. Why did they focus on this in the last episode, showed that they see the Doctor in black, but here - zero attention? What is the alternative story? I have nothing against blacks, but I would like to have some historical authenticity, at least superficially. And then it catches my eye and I can't believe what's happening.
id264460076
id264460076
17 Jun 12:25 # Show original
@lota: This is a parody of the Bridgertons. Therefore, everyone is normal.
anxiоusheart
anxiоusheart
17 Jun 12:45 # Show original
@lota: Well, it was rare, but not something incredible. Black Sarah Forbes Bonetta, who was born in the tribe, attended the wedding of Princess Alice and was the ward of the queen. Dido Belle, the daughter of a British admiral and a black slave, was generally a socialite, grew up on an estate and married a Frenchman. These are isolated cases, yes, but they are already precedents. besides, this is Doctor Who, back in 2006, Madame Pompadour's black friends were shown here))
EmilD
EmilD
18 Jun 11:52 #
@lota: Доктор Кто никогда не был исторически достоверным сериалом
ДарьяНиколаевна
ДарьяНиколаевна
17 Jun 20:32 # Show original
This Doctor cries all the time, it's terrible! The series is interesting, but I don't understand why the doctor chooses people of his own sex only as a love object
MarkRaffer
MarkRaffer
18 Jun 02:55 # Show original
@DaryaNikolaevna: it's just that this doctor is gay and it needs to be understood and accepted, and not to pay attention to his antics, waiting out two more seasons when this one will be chased with piss rags and finally take a normal one...
EmilD
EmilD
18 Jun 11:51 #
@MarkRaffer: к счастью его никто никуда не погонит, также как и Джоди с Чибнеллом никто никуда не погнал, и согласно слухам уже заказали третий сезон, съемки которого должны начаться в следующем году. Так что до 2027 года минимум не видать вам нового Доктора)
MarkRaffer
MarkRaffer
18 Jun 12:33 # Show original
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EmilD
EmilD
18 Jun 13:20 #
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MarkRaffer
MarkRaffer
18 Jun 13:24 # Show original
@EmilD: that yes... Where did you get so much hatred and malice? The question, as they say, is rhetorical.
EmilD
EmilD
18 Jun 13:27 # Show original
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MarkRaffer
MarkRaffer
18 Jun 13:42 # Show original
@EmilD: exactly what you have... Or don't you notice? and reports, and minus, and shit under the door or spit in the well there! That's what you and your kind are all about! Why is that, huh?
as for the sphincter, it was written only to you and exclusively to you, because you yourself admitted that you are openly gay and I just wanted to please you... So why didn't you like it?
EmilD
EmilD
18 Jun 14:01 #
@MarkRaffer:
ну ты же понимаешь, что минусовать, нагадить под дверь и плюнуть в колодец не из воздуха берется, так? Нельзя просто так невзлюбить человека. Или ты считаешь, что тебя хорошего не за что не любить?)

Мне подобные, очень интересно, о ком речь?)

А как мой сфинктер связан с тем, что я гей?
В каком из миров фраза "перестань уже сжимать от возбуждения свой сфинктер" это сделать приятное? Если хочешь сделать мне приятное, цветы вышли, не знаю.

Но вообще, если бы ты сам почаще сжимал и разжимал свой сфинктер, то меньше бы гадостей в интернете писал)
MarkRaffer
MarkRaffer
18 Jun 14:04 # Show original
@EmilD: Sweetie... You're not just ignoring me and messing with me... You do that to a lot of others, too, so get around it already!
EmilD
EmilD
18 Jun 14:07 #
@MarkRaffer: так ты тоже меня минусишь, в чем проблема вообще? Тебе можно, мне нельзя? Минус это всего лишь не согласие с комментарием, только и всего.

На остальные вопросы где ответы? Сливаешься?
MarkRaffer
MarkRaffer
18 Jun 14:16 # Show original
@EmilD: because you disgust me to the point of disgust...
EmilD
EmilD
18 Jun 14:18 #
@MarkRaffer:
Ну хорошо, а обоснуешь?
MarkRaffer
MarkRaffer
18 Jun 14:32 # Show original
@EmilD: if you hadn't put a minus sign, you could have justified it, but otherwise everything is more than clear and without explanation, and you didn't pass the test. You're just the BOTTOM! The reference from the Chamber of Weights and Measures!
EmilD
EmilD
18 Jun 14:41 #
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MarkRaffer
MarkRaffer
18 Jun 14:52 # Show original
@EmilD: If only you were just gay... but what did Larisa Guzeeva say?
EmilD
EmilD
18 Jun 14:56 #
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MarkRaffer
MarkRaffer
18 Jun 14:59 # Show original
@EmilD: I've sent your comments!
EmilD
EmilD
18 Jun 15:02 #
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DaryaShilova
DaryaShilova
17 Jun 21:53 # Show original
This season is going well, but this twist of "will you save your companion or the whole world?" seems to have outlived its usefulness
Me-wow
Me-wow
Yesterday, 20:12 # Show original
Finally, I didn't recognize Groff until I saw the name in the credits, wow)

But Rogue love (and did not feel at all like a replacement for Jack in him), go find him, Docta!
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