s02e08 — And That's the End of It. There's Nothing Else.
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| Duration: | 65 min. |
| Released: | 30.06.202430.06.2024 19:00 |
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84The authors perfectly recycle the original source, it was smart to combine the era of the hermit Lestat with his rockstar era. This shortens the time of his separation from Louis, and the elements of the madness of the book Lestat after losing the will to live at the end of the first book were very competently mirrored on Louis, after his release from the theater. Vampires usually don't stay indoors with corpses, it's unbearably disgusting to them, but Louis is so lost in his grief and obsessed with revenge that he doesn't pay attention to it. And this is very appropriate, because later, when he finds Lestat in a similar state, he understands him perfectly.
Finally, we got the real Lestat, not just Louis or Armand, but the way he is: vulnerable, broken, living through the grief of losing a child and in need of love - this was one of the most anticipated things of the season.
It's nice to see that Louis was finally able to come to terms with the death of his brother and Claudia, he is no longer the Persian from the beginning of the story, consumed with guilt, an interview with Daniel helped him work through this trauma.
Daniel in the role of a vampire looks great, very sexy, but his treatment has the wrong motives, it changes the whole dynamics of the devil's minion relationship not for the better. I don't have enough characters to be indignant about the Armand arch, but this is the first time when the screenwriters did everything wrong at all. And it's not that he's a villain, but the cardboard implementation of this idea.
Well, out of the doubtful, my fears about Raglan James were justified, this is not directly an omission, but it was not very pleasant either. He was probably here solely as a teaser for the Talamasca spin-off, because in his place, any member of the order could have been an informant.
Anyway, it was a great season and I hope that all the understatements of the finale will definitely be clarified next season.
I'm in the ah*e.
Beaten on the head by a g*grandson, a coward and a pathological liar
To be honest, I still don't quite understand how I feel about this, I don't think the series somehow showed that she and Louis never loved each other (how hard it must be to hear from Louis he was loving those days about the time when he almost allowed his lover to die!). And I would not say that what he did was completely out of character for him: doing the dirty work through others to free himself from the shackles of rules and covens is OK for him, as well as hurting loved ones out of fear and complexes.
But this is a big deviation from the plot of the books, where Armand made an uncharacteristic choice for himself for Louis and at the same time went to kill Claudia. I know how this will affect the plot of the series and Armand as a character, so I'm ready to give the writers the opportunity to surprise me in the upcoming third season.
And in the end, only "Vampire Lestat" gave us answers to the questions that remained open in the series: what was Lestat's role and complicity in the trial, how did their first meeting with Armand go after so many years? So I think we will clarify this situation further. The writers have dispelled my self-doubt before, so I hope this is the case.
ZERO THOUGHTS ONLY VAMPIRE DANIEL. Thanks to the screenwriters for the opportunity to see on the screen what we barely saw in the books. The self-confidence and composure, the new relationship with Louis-the annoying little brother, as Jacob Andersen called it-is just a complete delight. I can't even think about the potential dynamics with Armand for too long because of how bursting inside.
Lestat and Louis…I liked how much their meeting after so many years was still about Claudia, their hugs really felt like a moment between parents grieving for a child, and this is very right, considering that this is where they started
All in all, it was a wonderful season and a great start for the future, so we can only wait.
But the fact that they now have the same color eyes with Armand is very beautiful, I admit.
Did Armand love Louis? Perhaps it was not the kind of love that we imagine it to be, but in Armand's understanding, it was love. He just loved himself more. He wanted to survive, he wanted his own comfort zone, he wanted to keep lying to himself.
I can even somehow explain the masquerade of dressing up as Rashid. Mb Arman knew or felt that the real Rashid was spying and decided to temporarily suspend him from Molloy? It is unclear why Armand needed a relationship at the age of 77 with someone he wanted to kill. There is only one explanation from the creators of the series so far - well, Armand is just such a kind of masochistic fool.
I'm still thinking about Armand now, who was abandoned once again (even though he deserved it) already after Lestat, after Marius, after his parents - he apparently felt so lonely that he did without hesitation what had repelled him all this time - created his own kind. To somehow get attached to the world and not stay in the void ((((
So I'm really wondering what the motivation is for Daniel's conversion in the series!! I don't believe that out of spite, there must have been some funny story there.)
In general, we are waiting for the third or even fourth seasons to find out more about how Daniel was converted and get more interaction maker/fletchling )))
in anticipation of season 3; I'm glad that Louis and Lestat's branch ended on a rather positive note
by the way, the inaudible dialogue reminded me of Madeline and Claudia in the previous series, where we still know about:
OH MY GOD, I have so many feelings after watching this season, I don't know where to put them.
"She looked at me like a child looking to her father".
IT HURTS TERRIBLY FOR CLAUDIA, she didn't deserve anything that she had to go through because of them.
Louis and Lestat's reunion in New Orleans is really a reunion of two parents who were finally able to express their shared grief and guilt for the loss of their daughter, for what they did to her and to each other, as well as for what they could NOT do for HER. Even though they would never be able to fully recover from this grief and guilt, there was something cleansing and comforting about this meeting, in this tight embrace.
I can't get out of the reading room, which has been turned into a kind of museum of loss-Claudia's dress, Paul's portrait. Louis learns to live with grief and love, which will always go hand in hand, instead of suppressing them and letting them corrode him from the inside (his minimalist apartment in Dubai, devoid of bright colors, is like a museum of pain). The frame with the sofa with separate backs attracted attention - from black to yellow, Louis returns the color to his life, but specifically the yellow color of Claudia's dress, the color in his memory when he last saw her happy. He finds himself again.
Armand evokes very contradictory feelings. This "trial" turned out to be even more fucked up (the fifth series plays differently now). On the one hand, it seems that Armand specifically wanted to torture Lestat as much as possible before burning Louis alive in front of him on stage. And as if Louis himself hadn't given up on him. On the other hand, Armand's decision to kill Louis could have been an act of self-preservation; to kill because he would end up hurting if he gave him more of his heart. But this thoughtful path became his self-destruction, because Louis really loved Armand, even if never like Lestat. And all he did was destroy what could have been good in his life. Chose Louis, but betrayed Louis. In fact, he chose the coven, but then betrayed him as well. Armand doesn't understand family because he didn't really have one. If he did, he doesn't remember. He spent most of his life alone. No wonder he can't understand Louis' love for Claudia, and he also can't understand Claudia and Madeleine's love for each other, because he's never been shown unconditional love. For him, there is no real difference between family and romantic love, because his only reference point has always been Marius, with whom there was everything and nothing. He was taught to adapt to what others want. This is the main way to protect Armand, being a young sex slave or the oldest and strongest vampire in the building. In fact, this is the only known way to make others love him. Worse, this is the only way he knows how to love - to twist and distort himself in the form in which, in his opinion, his current obsession wants or needs him. He competes with ghosts all the time and still manages to lose. Armand is a five-hundred-year-old walking disaster.
A vampire!Daniel is so hot, God, sassiness turned up to maximum. I am insanely interested in what kind of storyline he will have next, not a single manipulation of the old vampire affected him, and after more than five hundred years, it must be both frightening and even liberating for Arman, all their glances at each other throughout the series did not give me peace. I NEED A conversion scene, please.
Oh**n production, oh**n cast - Delaney Hales especially (I hope to see her in major TV series). IWTV conquers for the second season in a row, now we have to somehow live up to the third.
there is a suspicion that it will only be in 2026, and how much longer to wait
In this episode, I received answers to two questions that concern me.. The question:
1) why did Louis stay with Armand after the betrayal
2) Saving Louis ..Armand?
Now it became clear that Louis was with Armand to hurt Lestat.
It was amazing to me that Armand saved Louis. I was even disappointed that it wasn't Lestat, because Lestat's feelings for Louis are strong. It turned out that my intuition did not let me down.
An amazing strong series!! 🔥
A wonderful reunion between Louis and Lestat, an apology and mutual forgiveness.
Louis has grown enormously. Strong, confident. Who does not tolerate chattering tongues behind their backs.
In this version, Armand is an extremely unpleasant lying manipulator.
Despite the open arches, the season seems to me to be completely completed and logically closed.
I'm looking forward to the third season - Lestat's rock era and, of course, the story of the Queen of the Damned 🖤🔥
..And I hope they'll show us Daniel's conversion scene. 😏
And Daniel is just love *o*
From the first season, I remember when a man came to Louis and Lestat with a request to give him a Dark Gift, Lestat bites him, but immediately spits out blood, because the beggar has cancer
I remember Daniel is also ill, not with cancer, but does it not affect the taste of blood and the possibility of conversion? 🤔
I realized that I was converted only when he took off his glasses and asked "do you know where my creator is?""
Armand talked about being sick when he was wrapped up. There are also cases of terminally ill people in the universe of books.
Plus, Parkinson's is a disease of the nervous system, maybe it doesn't affect the taste of blood at all, who knows…Maybe Armand will share it in the future 😅
even if it hadn't been renewed for a third season, the story would have ended wonderfully.
not all actions are worth looking for some kind of meaning, and we are directly told about it, they say, look, the human mind can be completely unpredictable. However, everything has consequences.
I can't forgive them for Claudia, it's too painful and too unpleasant, she didn't deserve it. I hope that we will see (hear?) her again.
The reunion was sweet and this storm in the background, as a metaphor for their relationship, is magical.
Daniel well... Congratulations? damn good, I would like to know a little more about him as a character, because there is also far from everything unambiguous.
Anyway, it's a wonderful season.
And the fact that the journalist became a vampire is unexpected, although it was worth guessing that everything would not end so easily with him…
We are waiting further :))
I expected that with Armand the victim, everything is not what it seems, but not so much, given the dynamics of his relationship with Louis. Managed to surprise)
Louis and Lestat in New Orleans is the most wonderful thing that could happen at the end of the story. How unhealthy the relationship is, complicated, and at the same time impossible to break away.) At the same time, it is clear that this is not a happy ending, but simply a necessary reconciliation. Excellent storytelling!)
Well, until the last it seemed that Daniel would not be turned, but during the interview I saw his nails))))
I hope in the third season Armand's motives will still be revealed to us, otherwise it turns out that we heard Louis's point of view, Lestat's point of view too (although it is possible that Armand edited it), and Armand himself built his whole life around lies and where the truth is very difficult to isolate... Not just an unreliable narrator, but three unreliable narrators - just great))
According to the canon of the series, Lestat apparently wanted revenge, but changed his mind during the process. Well, or the idea of meeting Louis again drove him so crazy that he didn't even understand what was wanted from him, and immediately agreed to everything - and only then began to sabotage)
I don't even know how to treat it yet.
I subscribe to every opinion written above.
We never found out the true side of Armand. And how great Daniel was at the moment "I still have a few questions"... And Sam is a Talamasca informant, I wonder. Daniel as a vampire is uninhibited, I like it.
"You should not be afraid of Armand, but of another one" - it sounded earlier in the series, and really, Louis can be anyone, and how nice that he came to his hometown and saw Lestat, and finally forgave each other. Lestat has lost all interest, lives like a hermit, eh🥺
And after all that, Louis returned to Dubai.... seriously🥺
I'm waiting for season 3, but what a great series, especially after everything that happened, I want to watch season 1.
A lot of pure audience delight from the series — the film was completely forgotten, like a feverish dream, as if Tom Cruise had never been in a wig. 😅
It's a great season, just like the first one.
The first episode here was not very to my taste, the pacing is not the same, I don't know, but everything else is just gorgeous.
It still feels like Caste is giving his best. At bts, there are these mini-interviews with them after the series, and everyone is so involved and clearly enjoying their work. Which is very cool and nice to see.
You can praise the screenwriters and directors (and producers, and the whole group) endlessly too, you have to maintain the drama and pace like that.
The series is really a hidden gem. It still genuinely surprises me that the stars have come together so well here, that the series turns out to be *so* good.
I'm religiously waiting for the third season, in general.)
Jacob Anderson, Sam Reid, Assad Zaman and Delaney Hales played for an Emmy nomination at least this season, and Eric Bogosian gave my heart :)))
I can't wait for season 3, it's so intriguing how they will build further books for what they have already done
<3.
This is the series of the year for me, definitely, damn it!
I was very worried about replacing the actress Claudia, but she did a great job.
But my God, what an asshole Louis looks to Daniel in the finale. Seriously, he's just leaving him alone with a vampire whose 77-year-old lies and manipulations Daniel has just uncovered. And all he does is forbid Armand to harm (oh my God, as if it didn't play the exact opposite role), as if Louis himself didn't emotionally kill a bunch of innocent and innocent people, promises to book a plane ticket and transfer money and just leaves. Everything will definitely be fine, because in your little bed games Armand always listens, and Daniel is not at all a half-eaten sandwich of Armand, who, unexpectedly, destroyed his relationship by revealing betrayal. It comforts me that in the end Daniel doesn't get mad at Louis and doesn't blame him, but Daniel is damn lucky that he's not just a bloody mess on the penthouse floor. It's not Louis's doing.
For all my love for Louis, it's an absolute asshole. He needs to be a companion to himself for a couple of centuries and think about his behavior, and not jump from one destructive relationship to another.
Why didn't Lestat tell him that Armand was involved in Claudia's murder?
I love Lestat. I hope they will be together and love each other forever. 🙈
I'm looking forward to the next season!!!
at this moment, I realized how much I missed their family dynamics of season 1🥲