s02e02 — Where the Stars are Strange

@New2018: Straight to the point! The elves are so mischievous that the main villain is just the most similar to the classic elf 🤣

@msev: The casting director gets a TWO... disgusting selection of performers for the role of elves - that's for sure! And I'm not considering that smoked one yet.

@MarkRaffer: I understand more and more that my former complaints about some elves in Jackson's films are absolutely in vain. Even Elrond the Half-Elf has a much more elvish look than any of them in this series.😅

@New2018: well, I don't know, I look at the local Elrond and every time I catch the vibes of the Skyrim elf)) and it feels so warm right away😁

@Adrasteya: and by the same Sauron or his secret allies. The elves during the long world of the 2nd epoch were completely lazy - only two messengers, maybe they will get there)))

@fb1273958: At the same time, the messenger disappeared, and figs with him. And this lord is sitting in the tower and he's like, damn, no one writes to me, but I won't write to anyone either, I'm offended.

@SmilePS: Noldor, what to take from them) And the Feanorings generally had a northern character.

@SmilePS: or you could have sent a pigeon...

@skiorh: He was in charge of the elven rings, after creating One. But the elves sensed the setup and took off the rings. And they put it on again only after the ring of omnipotence was lost

@Hidji: Скорее всего это Король-чародей Ангмар. Это лично моё мнение.

@Hidji: There are still a couple of blue magicians who went to the east, not honed. So why not?

@SmilePS: he was chronologically much later, as was the Necromancer/Sauron.

@Adrasteya: The blue ones both left for the east almost immediately upon arrival in Middle-earth. About them, in general, you can dilute the local version of the Thousand and One Nights, but certainly not within the limits from the Harbor to the sea of Runes, because they were not here).

@Hidji: там буквально написано, что неизвестно, остались ли они на востоке, мол, могли уйти, могли попасть под влияние саурона, так что тут честный карт-бланш у сериальщиков.

@skiorh: Kurunir would certainly have found out about their return at that time. And the later period with his betrayal does not interest us. I don't just doubt the hypothesis from the Internet, in that era Saruman was unconditionally devoted to the Valar.

@Hidji: при чем здесь Саруман, я про синеньких.

@skiorh: Kurunir sent them there as the chief Istari, and they would have reported to him if they had returned.

@Hidji: если бы они долбанулись на отличненько, как этот дед, то явно никому бы отчитываться не стали.

@SmilePS: 100%

@skiorh:
А, самое странное и страшное: БРЕЮЩИЙСЯ ЭЛЬФ.
Что дальше, эльф с трёхдневной щетиной? Эльф с усами? помогите...

@skiorh: And why not? Kirdan is the only elf whom Tolkien described as an elf with a beard. So why doesn't this elf shave?)

@fb1273958: Yeah, maybe also an elf who urinates on a Numenor bush? Still, elves do it, right? 😏

@MarkRaffer: 95% percent accurate, because there are more and more hints that this is exactly him. Naturally, the authors can declare in the last 8th episode that this is Melkor or some kind of magician. Yes, it will be unexpected, but rather stupid 😏

@msev: it's just that if my memory serves me correctly, and Wikipedia also tells me, the Valar did not try to defeat Sauron through a large-scale intervention comparable to the War of Wrath, as a result of which Morgoth was defeated, fearing that it could lead to gigantic destruction. Instead, they sent five Maiar to Middle-earth in the form of elder magicians, the most significant of whom were Olorin (aka Gandalfi) and Kurumo (Sarumyan). And it was in the THIRD EPOCH.
And so, of course, yes - it was clear at the time of the first appearance that this is Gandalf.

@MarkRaffer: Plus, his bad attitude towards hobbits in the future is justified by two, as you said, "furry" companions.

@MarkRaffer: I'm still more convinced that this is one of the Blue Magicians.

@MarkRaffer: I still hope that the blue magician. And this one, who sits and acts villainously, is the second one. They were supposed to come together along the way, but so little is known about them that an acceptable change is possible. In general, Tolkien changed the time of their arrival over time, it seems that he moved the blue magicians to the second epoch, and they just left to hang out in the east. In recent works (well, edited, they themselves were written a long time ago), the ent of the blue magicians was changed - if earlier it was assumed that they simply went to the east and got lost or scored on a mission, then in the later lore it is believed that all this time they persuaded the peoples of the East not to fight with the West and, therefore, to go to war There weren't many Haradrim rings.
The authors obviously know all this, so they throw a lot of similar plot at the blue magicians, but as if they give the character too much "Gandalf".;(I've already hung out with him a couple of quotes and hangs out with half-grown boys)...so they can turn in any direction if they want, for some reason it seems to me that at the time of the first season they had not yet decided themselves which of these options he was.

Yes, that would really be magic. 😂🙈