The statute also says that it is necessary to unite the shelter against the mechanics, according to the judge. So far, she's doing a good job of creating an image of rebel mechanics.
@ar97ar: I haven't read the books, so I vaguely know the spoilers, but on the one hand it seems illogical to make enemies out of mechanics, because they control the generator, without which everyone is doomed. Actually, in the first episode, we were shown that the catharsis of the uprising occurred with the shutdown of the generator. But on the other hand... And isn't the Order written specifically for unwanted Shelters? That if the shelter has reached a boiling point - mutiny - then it is no longer possible to contain it, and it should be erased - the most faithful and patient will live, only they deserve to walk on the renewed Earth. Although they tell us that the Charter was written after the last mutiny, blah blah, but the last mutiny was allegedly 150 years ago, after it everything was erased. And was there a mutiny, or is he the same legend that is fed to avoid mutinies? I still need to get to the books - I downloaded them after the first season, but I still haven't read them in the end
Anyway, mechanics can be replaced, Bernard probably has literature. Before Juliet's exit, he compared the level of indignation of the shelter with the pressure. + For each case, the charter contains explanations of what to do. Once the mechanics are drained according to the setpoint, it means there is an instruction on how to replace them. In this episode, Solo said that it all started with the fact that the cleaner did not clean and wrote "lies", and then the residents decided to "take a walk". After they came out, the dust rose and they went to the "creators". Well, in this 17 bunker there is light even without a generator, a couple of trees are alive. The first 2 parts are in good translation on the Internet
@ar97ar: yes, this is nonsense and nonsense from the writers of the series, there was nothing like that in the books, and it is not logical to somehow heat up the cult yourself, instead of just nipping it in the bud.
@Jmann: the explanation is cool, it's a pity that the comments that this was not in the books do not allow you to believe this. I also don't understand what logic it is to merge mechanics
The eyes in this small window revived the memories of one character from another series. Juliet is back in front of us, a mega attractive image. And she was already the unifying link in her bunker, she just didn't know it yet. People are leaving their comfort zone, a grain of doubt has been sown in the minds of the inhabitants of the shelter, it seems that changes are coming.
It feels like the judge believes all the videos from the projector and will help the rebels somehow. She destroyed the sheriff's faith in the charter even more. For some reason, the "harassment" in the charter was shoved into the plot 🤷🏽♂️
In fact, Bernard has only Sims left who is more or less reliable, but he seems to be a little rough for his next deputy.
Well, if the guys in the Fat really want to go outside, then why not let them out in small groups? Like a dozen will die — the rest will change their minds. I know exactly what the problem is...
@Zy4: the problem is that this is a work of fiction and it will disrupt the narrative)) PS: we are waiting for a REALITY show with survival in the future, for example 120 days on Mars!
@Zy4: we are also sitting today and thinking about what all these difficulties are) we would go, we would arrange expeditions, for God's sake. But then there would have been no keane
@Zy4: Exactly... and even if they tell the people there to die, go and 5 people will go and everyone will die. people already thought there was nothing there.. They'll find out and see what's wrong. and if you let the man in the suit out and let him back in, it's a clean walk for 5 minutes. He will come and tell everyone that everything is bad there. and why the bunkers don't interact. another strange thing is that it seems big, and this is the pit from which gg rose and went to the second, not so far and not particularly big.. people have never heard or tried at all.. That's weird.
There is a certain protocol, rules by which everyone should live. I won't spoiler, but after reading the books, everything becomes very clear. But even in the series, when Bernard was talking to the judge, he told her that you know what can happen to all of us because of this and it's not just about the uprising. By the way, it is very unclear to me how Bernard could promise the judge that he would let her out, no one can leave the bunker and go for a walk somewhere, people in another bunker can see this. So I think he cheated on her, he won't break the rules, he'll probably kill her.
@aniannaKH: I don't know what's in the books, but somehow it's pointless to lie when there's no reason to lie. There really is no way to survive outside. And if people think otherwise, let them go and check, you can even make normal spacesuits with oxygen so that they can also come back and tell you. To arrange some deceptions that will be revealed in any case is to shoot yourself in the foot.
@Doro: if everyone is released with good spacesuits, they will see that there are other shelters and will want to make friends with shelters and will walk back and forth. And you can't do that, because there's a bunch of shelters on purpose, for safety, like if some kind of epidemic happens in one, then only one shelter will be mowed down, and the rest will remain.
@Xeniaavvakumova: this is not a problem at all, there should be an information exchange between the bunkers and maybe even an exchange of resources and details, if anything, this will only increase the chances of survival. All these secrets and collusion only harm the whole project. Ideally, they should generally send expeditions and study the surface and how to survive in it.
@Doro: well, by the way, I watched only the first episode of the fallout, it didn't go any further - but it obviously shows why you can't make friends with shelters. Therefore, the base on which the founders came up with all this is very logical. Apart from blaming the mechanics, I can't understand this yet))
@Doro: And why are you so sure that you can't survive outside? Who told us that the whole earth is uninhabitable? I filled in the conversation between Solo and Juliet well, she asked him how the inhabitants of your bunker could have lasted so long without spacesuits?!) If usually those who go to clean up in defense die in a couple of minutes..... in my opinion, there is something to think about))).
But as for "making friends with shelters", it is immediately clear that this cannot be allowed! This is natural selection. At least one shelter must survive. There is always a risk that a person will appear who, with his ideas and thoughts, can infect others, which in turn can lead to death, war, etc.. We have already been told the story of the 17th shelter, where Ron lived, who inspired everyone to rebel and this led to the death of the entire shelter, except Solo. Therefore, the more bunkers there are, the more likely it is that one of them will last until it is safe to leave.
@aniannaKH: there, the uprising was sucked out of the finger and it simply would not have happened if people had not been lied to and were also released at will and in normal spacesuits.
@Doro: so the purpose of the experiment is just an experiment... all these bunkers initially did not affect anything, should not have affected anything, and in general, everything was scrapped. Only the main bunker is important, and even then not much. And all for the sake of the rebirth of humanity without all these negative qualities. In general, Hugh Howie has piled a blockhead on three volumes, which does not make sense at all to discuss or Film...
After all, the first season was filled with logic and plot sense. There is something about this that the thread of the narrative is constantly being cut off.
I don't really like the way things are going in the series yet. They pull hard. There was at least some intrigue in the book. That's how I understood Lucas's character was leaked at all, the one who followed the stars. It will probably be like in the first season, all the most interesting things in the last episode... Honestly, in this scenario, then let the series end on the fourth season, with the events of the third book. I think they won't fit in three seasons
@Katrin_90: Perhaps it will be so. Ferguson believes that the events of the three books will be shown in four seasons. It was in some kind of interview.
The song that Solo woke up Juliet with is Peter Gabriel's Red Rain. That is, to call Trent Reznor, so that he would allow them to use Right Where It Belongs in the finale of the first season, they did not have enough money, but they had enough for Gabriel. Oh, whatever.
What if everything around you Isn't quite as it seems? What if all the world you think you know Is an elaborate dream? And if you look at your reflection Is it all you want it to be? What if you could look right through the cracks? Would you find yourself, find yourself afraid to see?
I liked that the scenes with Juliet give off the atmosphere of Fallout 1&2 . . . mountains of half-burned corpses, the danger of infection, a dilapidated deserted shelter. Eh . . .we would also add the Glow /The Glow location track and in general it turned out to be as authentic as possible: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZZKzJTGI9E 😇 P.S. so far, the 3rd season of Silo is more similar to the classic Fallout than the Fallout series itself😏Yes, it was filmed taking into account the atmosphere of Fallout 4, but it's always nice to immerse yourself in the oppressive atmosphere of old Follies "#34;))
@msev: The last Fallout I played was the second one. But I watched the series. What I'm missing from it here is periodic gyges. Even in the book, Juliet sometimes giggles at what is happening. Just be quiet to yourself. You can't turn everything into this like in Fallout, but at least once per episode you can. Bunker or no bunker, there are no people without humor.
@samuel-j-gopher: As a schoolboy, I played Fallout 1 at night when my parents went to the country. And in The Glow location, I was specifically so not up to your "gee-gee" 😏This is one of the most creep (and if you don't guess to use some drugs, then the most deadly) places in classic Fallout'ah. That's why I wrote about the "vibes" of this place in 2 episodes in scenes from GG. And if you've also read Hugh Howie's books, you'll see that the series is much brighter and more positive than the original source.
Well, Ferguson is so good, I can't... it's a great series again. I don't understand why commentators need everything to fly at high speed - it's unlikely that in real life they would fix a new shelter in an hour and run to the aid of the old one, eprst :))) It's very atmospheric, and the Solo opens up so slowly, it's really good.
@Gamlet: Well, we know that food can be poisoned, but where does she come from? I've lived in a bunker all my life, taking almost everything they say on faith.
I would like to tell the creators of the series to GET LOST!", why change the story of the characters. Solo from the series - Well, they put me here and told me not to open it to anyone, tara tara pam. Solo from the book is the Son of the IT chief, in front of whom the shelter was destroyed, his mother and father were killed, who lost friends, who killed people for the first time at the age of 16, who lived in isolation from others for 34 years.
@DFG39: why do I have the feeling that he hit her on the head and dragged her to his shelter, where she had already talked to him? And here they show that they are shaking through the window.
@dett: everything is simpler, according to the book, he himself was aware that there was a living person in his bunker. I don't remember exactly, but before meeting Jules, he saw the last people 10 years ago, not that he saw, he killed out of self-defense.
@Diana926107: I've read a book and a half, and I can say that they still keep up a good pace here. The first is generally the story of walking up the stairs, in my subjective opinion
@Paly4: Yeah, but it would be a little difficult to enjoy if she walked like in a book in a tablecloth with a cut hole for her head and smeared with rotten soup from head to toe) And not that's all)
@am4am5: The soup was only on the spacesuit she had taken off. It would be doubly interesting to watch a half-naked Rebekah) but the series has removed everything in the best traditions of censorship.
Yes, the action is taking place quite slowly. It's pointless to build theories, the plot is as simple as two pennies.
I still have a question for Saul, according to the books, where did he get food? I don't think there were stocks in the server room for decades. About the toilet, okay, I went out on the bridge and did the need for water, let's say.
@Paramelion: when the supplies ran out, Jimmy Solo began to go outside several floors down to the farms, the bunker's automation turned out to be able to work without people and produce everything necessary.
@Paramelion: the food reserves in the bunker were enough for 10 years for 4, but it came out because the water began to run out. Those who stayed in the bunker extended electricity from the IT department to the farms. For a limited number of lamps and pumps, this electricity was enough, which went to 17 of the other bunkers.
@DFG39: The second book can be perfectly shown with flashbacks. They are already moving the plot of the series away from the books. The further I look, the more they change. And this is a great option: to run two branches at once, as it was in the lost (one on the island, the other outside). Our bunker will be shown, and a second book will be woven into the flashbacks.
@LoveToBones: you can use flashbacks, and I imagine how this can be woven into the plot, but there are so many interesting storylines! They were thrown out, but they invented the judge.
In general, the script is written on the spot. One man came out and that's it, we'll rebel. For 300 years, no one has gone out and covered the camera, smeared it with dirt, or tried to break it. Rules "Prepare for war", and why not "Assemble a group of dissatisfied people and send them "to check ", on condition that they remain in the field of view of the cameras". All bund will immediately stop, and if 10 come out and die, there will be a lottery for 10 children.
I wonder if Bernard's book has a plan in case of a small riot with overpopulation, which was staged by Dr. Nichols? :DD It's as if all the options were thought out by the forerunners, judging by the thickness of the volume.
@LoveToBones: It doesn't seem to need anything extra. An unaccounted-for child will appear. It is clear who performed the operation. We also know what the computer told him. If Nichols talks back, then the mother removed the implant herself. It breaks the rules, the mother will go to clean. If he doesn't succeed, he'll go clean it himself. The time window before Nichols is caught is six months maximum. It is unlikely that he will be able to arrange a direct overpopulation during this time.
@samuel-j-gopher: "Overpopulation" was in quotes because it's a joke :D It is clear that nothing critically important will happen, whether they have 10k or 10001 people in the bunker. But there is a violation itself, and this is not according to the statute.
@LoveToBones: SPOILERS!!!!! In Book 2, in the part with the 18th bunker and the Messiah, it is described, his mother was pregnant, gave birth to him and went to the cleanup. A life for a life.
@DeN_MiLLeR: It's a relic. Reddit identified it as something like a frisbee. An orange ring with a distinctive ornament. Googled for Tribord Soft Ring Orange.
@Lielena: It seems there was a better angle in the previous episode. Straight from the kitchen door into the room. The Tribord inscription is literally visible there. The second relic that is in the kitchen is Etch A Sketch / Magic Screen. This is a toy where by twisting two handles on the sides you can draw on the screen with the cursor, but only with one line.
For now, the second season is not very imo - too much rubbish and too few memorable events. A day later, you won't even remember what happened in the series) Once I even specially revised the series - but no, it didn't seem, and really nothing)
Do I understand correctly that the motivation to dive to the 22nd floor for a suit instead of going to 70 sounds like "because"?
It seems like a cool series, but, as many wrote above, it's terribly slow and there are a lot of holes left, although there were explanations in the book
@Lieserdi: he pulled out the capsule so that the woman would become pregnant, although the instructions from above were only to pretend that he had pulled it out.
Wow, that's what they twisted. Solo, who got into that room as a child, suddenly became an intern, although maybe he lied to her. Well, in general, it's strange that he's still sitting in that room, if memory serves, he was already actively walking around the bunker and helping Jules. I wonder what else they will change and how
I still think that they should have finished the first season on the first book, and then interweave a parallel storyline from the second, it would have looked much more spectacular than this squeezing out the plot by means of otsebyatin and stretching events. It is not very clear what the intrigue of the series should be - it is not interesting to look at the showdown of dirty wrestlers, and the main plot with the background and prehistory almost does not move.
I still don't understand that they are all breaking the surface? even if there is no infection and everyone came to the surface, what to do there, without food, water, shelter - they would wander around, cool the fucking and go back into the bunker, not even mentioning that the infection / toxin can kill and not instantly. Why did no one mention the purpose of the bunker, it is clear that to survive, or rather to survive the cataclysm, but what will be the trigger, what can you go out, how can you wait without knowing what to wait for. Somehow everything is thin, and so far the beginning of the season is based on the burning desire of everyone to get out, which looks unjustified and stupid
@MrWinston: That's Hugh Howie! There is no logic at all... 8-10 thousand people in a closed space, living for decades and centuries - yes, everyone there knows each other by name and by name, especially when everyone eats in canteens, and all these levels are down to one place. But I repeat once again - this is Hugh Howie and there is no sense of logic at all.
@MrWinston: because the bunker has no purpose - they themselves said a hundred times in season 1 that they do not know where, how and why they are sitting in the bunker and when they can get out, they also do not know
@kotenokgaff: but they know that there is an infection on the surface, and people die (all the predecessors of GG) or go missing (GG herself, perhaps she died over the hill after walking a little further), what pulls everyone to the surface? to commit suicide, yes, people are desperate and do not know anything about the surface, but common sense should be, it's not a herd of sheep, they have a rigid structure of society, division into professions, engineers, scientists, etc. I can't be sheep, otherwise the bunker would have died in the early years. It would be logical to organize a research project and release groups of 2-3 people for research, with quarantine, etc.
I watched all three episodes at once, the plot is very dull and slowly developing, almost nothing happened, it was possible to remove everything in one episode, why did they spoil it so much
Some kind of heavy episode. It's hard to believe how they don't understand that it can be very dangerous outside, going over the hill does not mean survival..
It is very unclear why and why the truth is being hidden, the more secrets there are, the more you want to reveal them.
How many people fell for this hard drive and decided to get out, and instantly paid for their actions.
Some kind of mockery, to be honest. The last episodes of season 1 fueled interest, the plot accelerated, waiting for Jules to come out of the Shelter. And so she came out. And I came to a new one. And now I have to get out of it to wipe the window so that the idiots don't start a riot and climb out. One question is, what the hell is this illusion for, if it would be much better for the crowd to be kept from wanting to go out by a real picture and the realization that death is outside. Why this idiotic conspiracy, this window into the world that excites people, and even a false picture that creates the appearance of what? And the most important thing is that apart from gg, not a single character causes any serious empathy and this whole topic of rebellion and revolution is simply not interesting to me. What is this story about anyway, what is the point of it all. The whole first season is waiting for answers, get them and now watch 3 episodes of candid water. The Jules line takes at least the entourage of an extinct bunker. But it seems that the show just lost all the intrigue. And it's hard for me to say if this is the problem of the original source or the series.
@ekko: I completely agree with you. The mayor has a video from Jules's helmet camera, where she wanders among mountains of corpses, and then falls down altogether and that's it. Yes, turn this recording on all screens and show people the truth! Why this stupid suppression of the uprising? Demonstrate what's over the hill, what exactly the heroine saw, and that's it!
@Lielena: I think the mayor can't show the recording from Jules's helmet, because they would ask him questions "what kind of technology is this? How the signal is transmitted from the helmet back to the bunker.
@Lielena: They've been lying for generations. That's the point. If such a small thing can cause a revolution, then what about the complete truth to say. It is important to maintain a mythology that is correct in this idea
@Lielena: of course that's it)) This is how the whole nation learns about the existence of other bunkers - and this is taboo. They'll all climb up to find out what's going on there, like in other bunkers
Something while they're leaking the series ! Voltage - zero The plot moves sluggishly The topic is not disclosed The storylines do not take on new turns, all the characters move chaotically
In general, the narrative line with the Solo is quite logical. Naturally, it will be very slow to get used to a person who has lived alone behind a closed door almost all his life. But still, the plot develops slowly and the main question is why not tell people the truth about the fact that there really is no life there. And the fact that they hide information about other bunkers is for security purposes. Just imagine, you live half your life in a space with 10,000 people, yes, you will know everyone like crazy, Of course many will want to go to other bunkers - and there will be constant traffic between these wells, who needs it, very dubious walks within the framework of maintaining the safety of life support.
I don't really like that the stories in the bunkers are so duplicated. And some kind of strange instruction about uniting against those workshops, why? These are almost the most important comrades in the bunker. And how does it work? Majority versus minority?
After the first season, I rushed to read books right away, because it was terribly interesting to find out the answers to all the questions. Even overcoming laziness, I read the third book in English (the translations at that time were terrible). And now I regret that I made these books a million times more interesting, logical, and structured. Watching the series is not at all interesting now, especially given the rather significant changes in the storylines. I wonder how much the movie will be different in the end, but it would be better to watch the series first, and then read it. The books are gorgeous! They are read in one breath, there are so many important details and details, and the secrets and the idea of the creators of the bunkers are gradually revealed so abruptly... Oh, it's a pity that they decided to make the series departing from the narrative of the books. But I'll finish, of course, where to go 😁 I advise everyone to read the trilogy, if you haven't read it yet! But after the end of the series, so as not to be disappointed in what is happening on the screen.
@snorkelle: I think that so far they are finishing all the books in this mode (2 seasons for 1 book), if they do it at all, and will not quit after 3 or 4 seasons. Then people will get old and forget about the series altogether)
Julia, when moving from bunker to bunker, seems to have passed stylist.. And our slonyarych peacefully sat down in the hole, but altukha came and made a fuss.
Although they tell us that the Charter was written after the last mutiny, blah blah, but the last mutiny was allegedly 150 years ago, after it everything was erased. And was there a mutiny, or is he the same legend that is fed to avoid mutinies?
I still need to get to the books - I downloaded them after the first season, but I still haven't read them in the end
In this episode, Solo said that it all started with the fact that the cleaner did not clean and wrote "lies", and then the residents decided to "take a walk". After they came out, the dust rose and they went to the "creators".
Well, in this 17 bunker there is light even without a generator, a couple of trees are alive.
The first 2 parts are in good translation on the Internet
So all the parts are there!
Juliet is back in front of us, a mega attractive image. And she was already the unifying link in her bunker, she just didn't know it yet.
People are leaving their comfort zone, a grain of doubt has been sown in the minds of the inhabitants of the shelter, it seems that changes are coming.
She destroyed the sheriff's faith in the charter even more. For some reason, the "harassment" in the charter was shoved into the plot 🤷🏽♂️
In fact, Bernard has only Sims left who is more or less reliable, but he seems to be a little rough for his next deputy.
PS: we are waiting for a REALITY show with survival in the future, for example 120 days on Mars!
another strange thing is that it seems big, and this is the pit from which gg rose and went to the second, not so far and not particularly big.. people have never heard or tried at all.. That's weird.
By the way, it is very unclear to me how Bernard could promise the judge that he would let her out, no one can leave the bunker and go for a walk somewhere, people in another bunker can see this. So I think he cheated on her, he won't break the rules, he'll probably kill her.
"they will want to be friends with shelters and will walk back and forth. " - The best comment prize goes here!))
Yes, it sounds logical.
But they don't have enough space suits to be friends with!
Ideally, they should generally send expeditions and study the surface and how to survive in it.
But as for "making friends with shelters", it is immediately clear that this cannot be allowed!
This is natural selection.
At least one shelter must survive. There is always a risk that a person will appear who, with his ideas and thoughts, can infect others, which in turn can lead to death, war, etc.. We have already been told the story of the 17th shelter, where Ron lived, who inspired everyone to rebel and this led to the death of the entire shelter, except Solo. Therefore, the more bunkers there are, the more likely it is that one of them will last until it is safe to leave.
In general, Hugh Howie has piled a blockhead on three volumes, which does not make sense at all to discuss or Film...
What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection
Is it all you want it to be?
What if you could look right through the cracks?
Would you find yourself, find yourself afraid to see?
P.S. so far, the 3rd season of Silo is more similar to the classic Fallout than the Fallout series itself😏Yes, it was filmed taking into account the atmosphere of Fallout 4, but it's always nice to immerse yourself in the oppressive atmosphere of old Follies "#34;))
it's a great series again. I don't understand why commentators need everything to fly at high speed - it's unlikely that in real life they would fix a new shelter in an hour and run to the aid of the old one, eprst :)))
It's very atmospheric, and the Solo opens up so slowly, it's really good.
What you need to do first is to eat the food that the stranger offered you.
There clearly can't be poison or sleeping pills, and then all your previous efforts are for nothing.
A strange moment.
Solo from the series - Well, they put me here and told me not to open it to anyone, tara tara pam.
Solo from the book is the Son of the IT chief, in front of whom the shelter was destroyed, his mother and father were killed, who lost friends, who killed people for the first time at the age of 16, who lived in isolation from others for 34 years.
It's funny how associations work) I watched Lost about 15 years ago, if not more 😁
It's pointless to build theories, the plot is as simple as two pennies.
I still have a question for Saul, according to the books, where did he get food? I don't think there were stocks in the server room for decades. About the toilet, okay, I went out on the bridge and did the need for water, let's say.
And this is a great option: to run two branches at once, as it was in the lost (one on the island, the other outside). Our bunker will be shown, and a second book will be woven into the flashbacks.
In general, the script is written on the spot. One man came out and that's it, we'll rebel. For 300 years, no one has gone out and covered the camera, smeared it with dirt, or tried to break it. Rules "Prepare for war", and why not "Assemble a group of dissatisfied people and send them "to check ", on condition that they remain in the field of view of the cameras". All bund will immediately stop, and if 10 come out and die, there will be a lottery for 10 children.
It's as if all the options were thought out by the forerunners, judging by the thickness of the volume.
In Book 2, in the part with the 18th bunker and the Messiah, it is described, his mother was pregnant, gave birth to him and went to the cleanup. A life for a life.
It seems like a cool series, but, as many wrote above, it's terribly slow and there are a lot of holes left, although there were explanations in the book
It is very unclear why and why the truth is being hidden, the more secrets there are, the more you want to reveal them.
How many people fell for this hard drive and decided to get out, and instantly paid for their actions.
One question is, what the hell is this illusion for, if it would be much better for the crowd to be kept from wanting to go out by a real picture and the realization that death is outside. Why this idiotic conspiracy, this window into the world that excites people, and even a false picture that creates the appearance of what?
And the most important thing is that apart from gg, not a single character causes any serious empathy and this whole topic of rebellion and revolution is simply not interesting to me. What is this story about anyway, what is the point of it all. The whole first season is waiting for answers, get them and now watch 3 episodes of candid water.
The Jules line takes at least the entourage of an extinct bunker. But it seems that the show just lost all the intrigue. And it's hard for me to say if this is the problem of the original source or the series.
The plot moves sluggishly
The topic is not disclosed
The storylines do not take on new turns, all the characters move chaotically
And our slonyarych peacefully sat down in the hole, but altukha came and made a fuss.