s02e02 — Order

22 Nov 11:49 #

It's a good tie.
The parallels with bunker 17 are not bad.
Bernard is handsome, he's driving very well so far.

vk728323

25 Nov 01:53 #

@ar97ar:

As I understand it, there will be such a sequence and such a plot
1 whether the series is about an old bunker and 1 episode about the new bunker and our main character and so will alternate until the end of this second season and we will be there to watch as the rebellion is brewing questions and so on and how our main character in the new bunker looking for a way out so to speak and finds Caqueta answers from the man, including that there is 1 survived and at the end of this second season she is most likely wearing a way as possible with the help of the basement - the bottom or more of the transition which connects all possible bins to get into your bunker and the last of the series will go back home so to speak defies belief that she's alive and back here once he returned back home and this will end the second season of the latest series and will be the third season is about the fact that there opportunity in the rest of the hoppers and the people will be divided into 2 camps, some will be for something that would alkavat the rest of the bunkers and it is possible to establish a relationship and Caqueta favorable relationships and delivery of the exchange of something either the others would be for the fact that it is dangerous and it is not necessary to go there in season 4 might dare to do it and will go to all the bunkers in season 5 it is possible the city will go to 6 may know will show how it all began - from what it all began

Something like that
Or assumptions - theories

27 Nov 12:35 #

It is not yet clear how the screenwriters will go further. The first 2 seasons are based on the first book.
In the second creation, the background of the bunkers was mostly.
Just by all guesses, there will be spoilers(

wrshpnw

22 Nov 12:14 #

I think it was necessary to produce two episodes at once, nothing has changed globally in the plot. You could even swap them)
To some extent, I understand Bernard's logic, he is trying to prevent an uprising by any means, but I still don't like him, lol :)

Doctor_13

23 Nov 22:54 #

@wrshpnw: Yes, as usual, a slow narrative

22 Nov 12:22 #

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vk202273

22 Nov 18:40 #

You like men more, don't you? Nothing, it happens. They say it's curable

22 Nov 19:51 #

@vk202273: Who's talking? Psychiators from the 70s?

22 Nov 19:56 #

@AtomicTroll: He was told by his dad apparently

22 Nov 19:59 #

@hotdog666: Ahahahah, that's funny. We somehow went into the comments of a sexist, homophobe...

22 Nov 20:23 #

everyone stop getting personal, discuss the series

UTKA_BLACK

22 Nov 12:28 #

Attempts to retain power look funny. It's so terrible and ridiculous that it's clear what all this will lead to.
And Juliet is a person with a capital letter, a professional in her field. She was never shown during the series, but thoughts about her constantly visited.
The interesting thing is how the bunkers are connected.

22 Nov 18:02 #

@UTKA_BLACK: all these speeches sound very familiar. I don't even know where I heard something similar

UTKA_BLACK

23 Nov 08:20 #

City of Ember: Escape (City of Ember), 2008
Constantly, when I watched the first season, I remembered this movie.

Laedde

23 Nov 22:42 #

@AtomicTroll: and how people believe these speeches after 5 credits to the account is very familiar. Apparently now, in the current situation, we all lack the right duct tape, or faith in it

ushakovatory

27 Nov 08:52 #

@UTKA_BLACK: It is noteworthy that the same actor, Tim Robbins, plays in this film and in the series

UTKA_BLACK

27 Nov 09:33 #

@ushakovatory: I had the same thoughts when I watched Castle Rock, constantly remembering "Escape from Shawshank."

ushakovatory

28 Nov 13:42 #

@UTKA_BLACK: Yeah, plus

25 Nov 03:29 #

@UTKA_BLACK: In this case, it's still not so much an attempt to hold on to power as an attempt to prevent the Bunker from collapsing, especially in contrast to what Bernard saw from Juliet's cameras. So he always had plenty of power, he was the head of the IT department. It's easy to give the post of mayor to someone and go back to the gray cardinals, but would the new mayor keep people from wanting to go out en masse to smoke in the "fresh" air, as he saw on the cameras?

Xinem

27 Nov 23:47 #

@Kentavr: That's exactly it. If you let these people obey the herd instinct, then there will be several thousand more blind people outside. What kind of banal person would you need to be to see only the retention of power here?

06 Dec 23:26 #

@Kentavr: Yes, it's not about power at all, but about ideology and faith. Moreover, when you see mountains of corpses from another bunker, you realize that Bernard is 100% right%

07 Dec 07:33 #

@Meloman_Nastena: Yes, not quite 100%. There are possible options, but according to what we have shown so far, Bernard's option is not the worst. But we still have too little input data.

Jmann

22 Nov 14:07 #

Well, an episode without Jules :(

22 Nov 14:44 #

The next one will be mixed already

22 Nov 14:50 #

Will the judge come to Jules's rescue? We know that the bunkers are connected, so they will find this passage, apparently, and return to the same place from where they left. Don't spoiler anyone who has read the book, I want to speculate what all this will lead to, but I definitely don't want to stumble upon a spoiler. Or will it lead to nothing?)) It's impossible to survive outside, isn't it? Does anyone have any thoughts? Or will they pump out the water and use the second bunker for life?

22 Nov 15:27 #

Judging by the trailer, the lawyers break into Bilingsgs, who is all with his charter…
And the judge in the trailer with the mayor enters his secret room, so she's unlikely to help)

aitras

22 Nov 23:18 #

@JardimFramboesa: I don't remember from the book that the bunkers were connected) But I haven't read parts 2 and 3.

D333

23 Nov 01:44 #

@aitras: Didn't they talk about some kind of door underwater in the first season? I haven't read the books, but somehow this moment in the series is forgotten. Or he is being held just for the development of the plot.

23 Nov 02:21 #

Josh said in his video that he had found the door, but he needed an engineer to open it

abel-berg

23 Nov 21:17 #

@aitras: they are connected, and they even use it, but Jules will come back in a different way

23 Nov 22:45 #

Not spoilers) MB will be replayed again

25 Nov 00:35 #

@ar97ar: yes, there is no such thing in the books, the comrade above writes bullshit about the fact that they are allegedly connected 🤷🏻♂️

OlgaIgi

02 Dec 10:10 #

@aitras: I read part 2, there is no third part in Russian yet. Not connected)) it seems to me that the creators of the series have already come up with a story about the door and what is connected, the plot should be slightly different from the book.

24 Nov 22:13 #

@JardimFramboesa: and how do we know that the bunkers are connected?

24 Nov 22:57 #

@bodiyx And in the first season, Juliet's boyfriend, I don't remember his name, found the door underwater and there was a passage on the diagram from the hard drive, it was actively discussed that this was the connection between the bunkers

22 Nov 14:56 #

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booker

22 Nov 16:25 #

If we gave them our blue duct tape, they would become immortal)))

DovoD

23 Nov 11:28 #

@booker: It is better to start with black, and then blue.

id972349034

23 Nov 16:04 #

@booker: and if you give them another WD-40...

25 Nov 03:30 #

@id972349034: ...and a silver coin

booker

22 Nov 16:27 #

For the second season, I don't understand the main message - to keep everything a secret. After all, if everyone knew the truth and passed it on from generation to generation, then no one would be rowdy, everyone would know that there is poisoned air outside.
And it would be possible to check that it is still dangerous there on criminals who would be expelled there as an execution.

kiprian_zhurov

22 Nov 17:03 #

@booker: this is the most important twist, apparently
Except for the option that this is an experiment on the psyche, or the selection of the right people by someone, nothing comes to mind at all
Why lie if you really can't survive there

22 Nov 18:40 #

@booker: What's the message there? this is Hugh Howie and all this writing of his, according to which they filmed this here - you can describe it in one phrase - the most important things are IT, gee-gee, whatever this word means... that is, such a nod to the representatives of this direction, they say, look how I think about you and how I have licked up. Everything else is just a dull graphomania. I'm not going to spoiler what it was intended for, and it doesn't matter... The main thing is to suck IT up/

25 Nov 13:45 #

@MarkRaffer: well, that's not true - it is privileged here because it has access to the secret. And if you remove it, the bunker will last much longer than if you leave only it

25 Nov 14:37 #

@g1341890: That's exactly what's true... Hugh Howie is writing his book, where the main character of the universe, around whom everything revolves (not to be confused with the main character) and who is the pinnacle of everything is a kind of ephemeral IT, but in fact - just a sysadmin on saaaaaam minimals.

25 Nov 21:19 #

@MarkRaffer: about history, yes, about logic... Well, I don't know.

26 Nov 13:52 #

@g1341890: Hugh Howie and logic are generally antonyms...

Hidji

22 Nov 22:21 #

@booker: wrong). The main message here is different: the coolest thing in the world is good electrical tape😁 Contextual advertising.

Iamliam23

23 Nov 11:35 #

@booker: I once wrote that it would be cooler and more logical if everyone were shown that there was a radioactive world outside the bunker, but in fact everything would be super and life was boiling there. That is, it would not be so much an experiment on people, but it just so happened that they do not know.
But it would be similar to the episodes about the bunker in the TV series Fallout)

23 Nov 12:31 #

@booker: They don't seem to really know what's on the surface.

24 Nov 22:21 #

@booker: well, yes, in the first season we were led to that, allegedly, the authorities lie about the outside and the world and you can live there, it turns out you can't. What the revolution and the riot led to was shown in the second bunker.

25 Nov 13:39 #

@booker: The only truth they knew was death outside the bunker. The most important mystery in the series is (further spoiler) - the fact that those who built the bunker themselves staged genocide for the earth.

25 Nov 14:40 #

@g1341890: bunkers... there are slightly more than one or even ten of them... and the purpose for which it was done is dumb as a cork, and unnatural.

25 Nov 21:20 #

@MarkRaffer: and by the way, the idea that those who are comfortably settled - they started everything themselves - in fiction is not new.

06 Dec 23:32 #

@booker: so they don't keep everything a secret: they show a real picture, the air is really poisoned. The only thing I don't understand is why the hell do these jokes with duct tape if people are going to die anyway. And they hide everything else so that there won't be an uprising, because any society needs rules. Relics are destroyed so that no one dreams about what a wonderful world around them, the number of bunkers is hidden so that no one wants to try to leave it. So far, everything is very logical, which is probably what I like about this series.

dett

07 Dec 15:32 #

@Meloman_Nastena: duct tape is needed so that people do not reach the cameras of other bunkers and in general, so that the residents of the bunker have a fear of the threat of the outside world, like "look, even our best protection did not save him, so we sit farting further"

klmvira1

22 Nov 16:29 #

The plot is developing very slowly..

22 Nov 16:54 #

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22 Nov 18:05 #

@hotdog666: You're not shaming yourself enough with your primitive misogyny here, let's have more

22 Nov 18:23 #

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22 Nov 18:24 #

@hotdog666: this is not an opinion)

22 Nov 19:28 #

@AtomicTroll: well, now you're going to decide that if I liked the character in the first series more, then this is not an opinion

22 Nov 19:50 #

@hotdog666: you can like anyone, but when you say that the main character can't be a woman, it's ridiculous and pathetic. And I'm not even talking about the agenda and trends, there were a lot of strong heroines in movies and TV shows, and it doesn't look unnatural here either. Gg goes out with her mind and wit, and does not scatter the yokels because she is so cool, so I do not accept your claims and do not consider them an opinion

22 Nov 19:51 #

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22 Nov 19:52 #

@hotdog666: It doesn't take a genius to see your previous comment. Or does your memory get erased every 2 seconds?

22 Nov 19:58 #

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22 Nov 20:01 #

@hotdog666: don't worry about me, though it's cute

Valunyaya

22 Nov 20:01 #

I finished the first book just for this series, they wrapped up the plot coolly.
In fact, I generally understand Bernard and do not see him as a villain, yes, he is an antagonist who does everything as his grandfathers bequeathed in the Charter; yes, his decisions may be unpleasant, but he does everything logically. I see that the plot has changed a little, but the basic outline remains the same, we must prepare for the fact that the second season will end with the end of the first book, so the narration may seem slow.
It would be interesting for me to look at the lives of ordinary people from the middle levels, whether they doubt which side they will take, and so on.
And yes, it would be more interesting to watch 2 episodes at once, so that the plot develops in parallel with both Juliet and Bunker 18.
I'm thinking of taking a break before the New Year holidays, the last episode was announced on January 17th, it's still tedious to wait every week)

P.S. I don't watch trailers, so I don't know if they will mix or not, but specifically these two series could be safely released together.

06 Dec 23:33 #

@Valunyaya: plus, if Bernard seemed like a villain in the first season, after episode 1 of season 2 everything fell into place

Hidji

06 Dec 23:55 #

@Meloman_Nastena: Oh, is it? This is only the first one).

07 Dec 02:21 #

@Hidji: well, his motivation is still clear, even after the 4th))

Hidji

07 Dec 02:27 #

@Meloman_Nastena: I can find positive motivation even from Hitler, the question is, is it necessary? With such methods.

BangGirl

22 Nov 20:42 #

Don't tell me, but it was worth waiting for the continuation! I even started reading books after the first season. From the pleasant side, everything was shot almost frame-by-frame with the book (at least with the part that I managed to read).
In general, the series is interesting and intriguing, I advise you!

25 Nov 00:39 #

@BangGirl: You seem to be reading books strangely. Some characters were added to the series, which were not in the books at all (the Judge, Sims), and for some reason the gender was changed for Volker very unexpectedly 🤷🏻♂️

dett

29 Nov 02:27 #

@BangGirl: well, nooo, the film adaptation has its own distinctive moments, as Rana was told, ranging from gender and characters to situations. Jules in the book did not have a romantic line with the murdered guy at all. It seems to be. And in the series they have a fire there)

Viktor_cska

22 Nov 20:53 #

A tale about the benefits and importance of duct tape in life )

Iamliam23

23 Nov 11:37 #

@Viktor_cska: And engineering skills 😀

Diana926107

22 Nov 22:53 #

In fact , the 1st and 2nd series could be combined 🥲 why is everything developing so slowly

22 Nov 23:11 #

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graandmaster

23 Nov 02:43 #

Dude, aren't you tired of singing that song of yours yet? and in your opinion, a man would have guessed to patch up a suit, but a woman wouldn't, what's the difference? do you really need a dick between your legs to guess?

23 Nov 08:20 #

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23 Nov 12:36 #

@hotdog666: It takes an engineer to do all these things. Juliet is an engineer. The sheriff was not an engineer. The conclusion is that he couldn't have done shit and would have died pretty quickly. Oh, and he died quickly because he didn't figure out about the spacesuit. Oops!

23 Nov 13:01 #

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23 Nov 14:10 #

Dude, you say let's not be sexist, but you're doing it yourself. A man could do it, but a woman couldn't. Do you have complexes? Did Mom beat you or what? Although you are a man, but with such a mindset, I am sure that you will not live a week without the care of a woman and a woman wiping your snot. I'm already silent to do push-ups at least 50 times, getting up from the couch😹

23 Nov 14:31 #

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Laedde

23 Nov 22:35 #

@hotdog666: Oh, that is, it depends on the gender of the actor, and not on the screenwriters, it's interesting

24 Nov 10:07 #

@devolnu: why are you all so clueless, I'm telling you from the screenwriters, if they had made him the engineer of that main character, everything would have been clear and the hero would not have had to convince flashbacks how he studied long and hard

Ouks

24 Nov 13:56 #

@Adrasteya:
"Juliet is an engineer"
An engineer will not walk along a bridge made of branches and debris. It's not about the field, it's about the database.

PussyDestroier

25 Nov 18:34 #

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Juullietta

23 Nov 00:03 #

It would be better if these first episodes came out two in a row, otherwise I started falling out from so many events. But it's still a delight, a great series full of intrigue and colorful characters!

23 Nov 01:35 #

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graandmaster

23 Nov 02:49 #

maybe it's the series itself, and not its "Americanness"? in the first season, I also don't remember any emphasis on LGBTiti, and when it was filmed, the Democrats in power were still frolicking

Daria_Waves

23 Nov 14:59 #

I am amazed by your attentiveness (no).

id972349034

23 Nov 16:16 #

@Aizen-88: I still understand people who are indignant because of the presence of an agenda, but to bleed bile even when there is no agenda, and BECAUSE there is none, it's really a fool.

24 Nov 03:16 #

@id972349034: Who is dripping with bile, hmm. I'm just pleasantly surprised that there is no agenda. And you can't be happy anymore.

24 Nov 12:36 #

@id972349034: so this is because the fixation on the agenda is exclusively with its opponents. And it doesn't matter if it exists or not.

25 Nov 13:18 #

@Adrasteya: There are same-sex relationships in every TV series, is it not super fixation and propaganda?

25 Nov 13:40 #

@Aizen-88: Well, she is... although I honestly don't remember it being in the book. But there is no bright fixation on the abgdake - and it passes almost imperceptibly.

25 Nov 13:41 #

@Adrasteya: normal people have an aversion to LGBT people. Especially when she is shoved like a normal relationship - everywhere.

25 Nov 13:58 #

@Aizen-88: Are you starting to want people of your own sex?

25 Nov 14:09 #

@Adrasteya: It's the same record again, as if there's some kind of manual. Tomorrow they will shove transgender people everywhere, then what will you come up with? And when pedophiles become the norm in movies, it will be a pity for you just how you will protect them.

25 Nov 14:19 #

@Aizen-88: You are obviously talking about the training manual from your own experience. Do you have any thoughts of your own?

25 Nov 15:09 #

@Adrasteya: I've explained them to you. Nature created two sexes for a reason, there is no need to conflict with nature, it will end badly.

25 Nov 15:14 #

@Aizen-88: What is a Woman 2022 is just about that... It's just a wonderful movie

26 Nov 17:36 #

@Aizen-88: Firstly, nature is much more diverse than you are trying to imagine here. Secondly, it is still not clear what this has to do with the abbreviation banned in the Russian Federation?

27 Nov 15:00 #

@Adrasteya: In nature, there are only two sexes that are focused on reproduction and you know what this has to do.

27 Nov 18:31 #

@Aizen-88: and? What does the existence of people who do not fit into this framework have to do with it?

snorkelle

08 Dec 22:26 #

88, you would do well to repeat the school biology course - you will learn a lot of new things. For example, that there are not 2 sexes, that there are many different ways of reproduction, and that homosexuality is inherent in many species of animals, not only humans - and all this is nature :)

funnypennywise

Yesterday, 23:16 #

@Aizen-88: there is no need to start this dialogue, there are solid soy liberals sitting on this site, they just love the agenda

6o4ka

25 Nov 11:53 #

@Aizen-88: watch the Day of the Jackal, there will be an agenda for you

Panda___

23 Nov 04:52 #

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GennadiyF

23 Nov 13:28 #

Apparently, the development of the plot will be slow..

deflaer

23 Nov 15:53 #

CHOI IS ALIVE

DaryaSavelyeva

23 Nov 16:32 #

I hope Juliet will understand that many people will want to go to the gun after her, and will find a way to warn that it is not safe there.

artemgavrilovich

23 Nov 17:20 #

Agree that you need to be able to rub such game into people so that they believe the mayor is good

camrt

23 Nov 19:08 #

what about the comments, where did the series get to, that there are so many beaten off tightly? sometimes it's spoiler, sometimes it's sexism and open insults

25 Nov 00:42 #

@camrt: This is the Internet, and it's not like that either. 🤷🏻♂️

MaxSusch

23 Nov 21:03 #

I read 2 books after the first season and started the third part a little, but it's very difficult to read an amateur translation (I'm afraid I don't understand the original..).
So, the question for book connoisseurs is the new character Meadows was in the book or is this an image created specifically for the serial plot?

LoveToBones

23 Nov 22:59 #

@MaxSusch: there is already a third book with an official translation by the Azbuka Atticus publishing house, but the reviews on the quality of the translation are not very good. Regarding the question: I've been reading books for a long time, but I don't remember such a character in books.

wassabii

23 Nov 23:07 #

@MaxSusch: Meadows is not in the book

25 Nov 00:44 #

@MaxSusch: there was no judge in the books and it is not yet very clear why she was added to the series at all. Perhaps then it will become clear what her role is. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Doctor_13

23 Nov 22:54 #

& # 34; I love & # 34; series in series without the main character

pavlovdv22

24 Nov 01:27 #

@Doctor_13: the books are narrated by different people, so there is nothing criminal here

Doctor_13

24 Nov 10:56 #

@pavlovdv22: These are no excuses for me as a spectator.

25 Nov 03:38 #

@Doctor_13: How did you see the Thrones?

Paramelion

24 Nov 01:48 #

I agree with the commentators above. The first two series could be combined into one. Or release it in one day. In fact, they stretched the intrigue for two weeks with Jules.
Everything is going to ensure that in our bunker there will be a scenario like in that "new" bunker.

Katrin_90

24 Nov 16:36 #

Events are dragging on for a very long time. Of course, the events are a little out of the book, but it's even more interesting where they are wrapped. There was a dynamic while reading the book, but so far everything is dragging on. Unfortunately, we don't know what event the season will end with, but we'll see.

25 Nov 03:40 #

@Katrin_90: I think I know what they are. I expected that the last one would end with this, but something tells me that the new one will end with them. Those same hot hugs.

farcry2033

24 Nov 16:40 #

Someone's tongue will be cut off soon

24 Nov 22:37 #

Well, okay, the outside world is supposedly dead, the air is poisoned and it is impossible to breathe. More than one generation has lived in the bunker, let it be more than 80 years offhand (I'm not sure here, maybe time intervals were mentioned). Bunker technology, judging by the PC, is about the 80s-90s. But there is modern equipment in the secret control room.

Alternatively, the bunker was built for a long time, the technology was outdated and no one updated anything in the living quarters, and a replacement was made in the control room.

A variant with a psychological experiment... Well, yes, it is possible, but on condition that technology has stepped up to build a dome over the bunkers filled with poison. I'm afraid to imagine the cost of all this and why it is needed in principle, so it is also unlikely.

I'm more inclined to a real disaster and a real power struggle inside the bunkers. That's why they banned all artifacts so that people wouldn't even dream of anything else and would be submissive

25 Nov 13:44 #

@bodiyx: The technologies in the bunker are those that can survive for many generations. It is reliable and long-lived solutions - they basically look as primitive as possible. Let's say you have all the control going through the touchscreen screen - what happens if the screen dies? - Hana. And if you have toggle switches and levers, it's easier to fix.

25 Nov 14:00 #

@g1341890: I compared the PCs of the residents and in the control room

arthur_korolyov

25 Nov 02:08 #

As soon as I saw the symbols on the walls, I immediately remembered about the Hunger Games

camrt

25 Nov 07:54 #

Sejm, Julia will probably become a symbol of freedom and change

raziel2011

25 Nov 05:06 #

Like it if you love the series, but even in the first season and its first episodes, the plot of the books was told in the comments *******.

bazatron

25 Nov 10:50 #

@raziel2011: I haven't read the book - but I can predict how this cliche hodgepodge will end.)

6o4ka

25 Nov 11:57 #

The mayor, of course, is still a hypocrite and dictator, predictably appropriated the merits of repairmen with duct tape. Although he didn't have much choice. It's amazing that many even believed him, but hopefully not all of them.

And the judge seems brave if she wants to follow Jules) I even wonder what such adventures can lead to.
But in general, the series without Juliet did not work out very well, I hope there will be more of it later. And we also need to find out about that dude in the bunker - who, what, how, why, and so on

merlott

26 Nov 10:14 #

Surprisingly, the second series is more boring than the first.

Evgenia_vladi

26 Nov 17:21 #

Judging by how the development is going now, and knowing the plot of all the books, they will pull for 5-6 seasons, and then they will launch a prequel.

nyam0

29 Nov 15:05 #

Isaac!

Хосок13

02 Dec 07:43 #

I wonder what would have happened if she had gone to a bunker that operates in which they did not die out, what would have happened then

tanчик

03 Dec 00:32 #

How mysterious everything is, but very interesting..

In fact, I would like to know more about what happened to the outside world, why everything died out, we can only think about it..

And what led to the extinction of another bunker, which started the conflict

How many survivors are left, can the bunker be put back into operation again

DenchikKochetov

03 Dec 21:10 #

An actor of the same role plays a damn everywhere with disabilities 😮💨

merlott

04 Dec 07:52 #

@DenchikKochetov: Черно. Одобрямс.