Get this piano out of the bushes as soon as possible, where she returns to the bunker and stops the uprising at the last moment. After all, it's not even interesting to watch when you know where everything is going.
A terrible situation is starting to unfold. It seems like they turned off the lights, made it clear that you fools are nobody, nothing without mechanics, and you can't call, but no, they start rolling a barrel on them anyway. Here another red ball is needed if these people do not understand in any way what everything is leading to. The Persian of the Common got to the point of horror - firstly, absolutely no actor, secondly, according to the book he was vile, but also reasonable, and here he is just vile. I don't understand why Juliet doesn't have questions when people piss off their compartment if they're supposedly alone in the bunker. The death scene of the judge is good, but it's also insulting to live your whole life in a bunker and only see life before on your last breath :(
@kingforthesirens: Well, according to the settings and wall records in the dungeon, the scheme against mechanics is as working as possible. Well, xs, Sims is purely playing his role, a local Beria type. His wife inspires him with all sorts of unnecessary things on the series. She sees that he has a peculiar schizophrenia, if he scares her, she is doomed to hunger strike at least
@Meloman_Nastena: Something like that. According to the first season, it is clear that the bunker as a whole does not relate to mechanics. When the Sheriff's secretary joked that people were eating on the bottom, when the father of the Sims type transferred to the bottom, and so on. Well, after the lights went out in the series, their popularity waned. Surely there are instructions on how to work in the mechanical room in order to replace them, new mechanics are taken from the adjacent lower floors of the MB, after a mass cleaning. Type cut out the tumor
@ar97ar: Well, it seems to me that you won't be satisfied with instructions alone. Juliette was a good specialist who could fix complex and important things and knew everything that was gained only by experience and talent. They kicked her out. She had a student, they killed him. You can't get enough engineers that way, actually
@kingforthesirens: Are mechanics sure they can turn off the electricity? Because in s01e03 they couldn't turn off the generator for more than 30 minutes. They have hot steam coming from an unknown pipe without stopping (we don't know why). The steam gets to the generator, then magically disappears somewhere. They can't use it to bypass the generator. They can only temporarily close the pipe and wait until everything explodes. It turns out that they can't help but supply electricity upstairs, otherwise they will be the first to die.
@a1411664: It took me a while to figure it out, but yeah, it doesn't seem like it's going to happen. The rotor will spin a little faster and warm up a little, but it doesn't seem to be out of order. The switch option is approx.
well, why Solo pisses behind the compartment is just understandable - since childhood he had only one task to protect him, just for so many years of loneliness, paranoia was also added
I wonder if he's really the only survivor of the bunker, because sometimes the footage is so arranged, as if someone is watching them
In some scenes, the cameraman's hands are shaking, which becomes noticeable, for example, in the first static scene between the measure and the judge in the office.
The series is stretched out, as if 15 minutes is too much for the dynamics. Bernard is right in his place, the judge somehow started causing a lot of trouble. Only the dissident sheriff remains, but his house is broken into in the trailer. I hope that they will start moving in the next episodes. The wall records in the dungeon have paid off …
I'm the only one who can't understand why they put everything on Mechanics, considering that a) they can block the shelter b) they are responsible for the light and can turn off the power? Well, like this is the stupidest thing you can let all the dogs down on, it's like biting the hand of a nursing person. Damn, why didn't I get to read the books. One gets the feeling that this whole topic "blame the Mechanics" is that if your shelter has reached the point of rebellion, then it is unworthy to live on a renewed Earth, therefore it was prescribed to the Code to blame the Mechanics so that the Shelter would self-destruct.
@Jmann: It is quite logical artificial selection. I realized this idea on the last episode. In the code, all the ways are painted, you don't even have to think about the main thing yourself - read and follow
@Jmann: most likely, the upper classes have all the schemes and infrastructure for training mechanics, they do not reproduce by budding, they will train new ones.
@MrSnippy: so it flooded due to the shutdown of the water pumping pumps, which were controlled by mechanics. Everyone came out of the shelter -> no one to watch the pumps -> everything flooded.
@Jmann: in general, their mechanics live poorly, only convicts who are in the mines are worse. It would seem that people who support life in the bunker should be honored, and they are treated like garbage, although they hold the main power. Apparently, so that they do not feel this very power and are treated like this
@Jmann: If the mechanics are already dissatisfied, then they will not agree with them, they will constantly put forward their demands, which cannot be fulfilled (as a requirement to go out and check where Juliet is). But if the security forces themselves suppress them, then the people will not like it and then everyone will unite against the government, and this cannot be allowed, then the bunker will remain without control and rules. Therefore, it is necessary to incite people who will suppress the mechanical, then send the most zealous rebels to clean up and replace them with new mechanics. That's all, the riot has been suppressed, there are more than half of the new staff in the mechanical, and we are immediately doing a lottery to make up for the loss of numbers. As a result, the authorities supported the people and gave many couples a chance to have children).
@Jmann: this is a reflection of modernity, manipulation through the media, the tail wagging the dog, etc. the author of the book believes that in a limited space this too, although with exceptions, will work effectively.
@Jmann: because - mechanics will not go anywhere, they are at the very bottom - The IT department is probably powered from another location, given that there is light in the new bunker there despite the flooded generator, IT doesn't care, - and finally, even if the mechanics start a riot, they do not have access to food, which is at level 50-70, and without food there will not be a long riot, yes, they can turn off the generator and put out all the lights, but this will just set all the inhabitants against themselves, and the task of the bunker, though with losses, but survive, so well, they'll barricade themselves down there, turn off the lights, sit for 3 weeks without food, and start giving up
@MrPanda: in addition, again, given that IT has modern computers, cameras, etc., something suggests that they may also have modern weapons, bulletproof vests, machine guns, tear gas, etc. to suppress such a riot
@DiKEY999: in the series, the distance is visually really small, but in the book this moment was described as if there were huge meters at a depth that could not be reached without all these devices, so most likely just a tribute to the book.
Something is generally some kind of nonsense. It's been four episodes, I don't understand what's going on and what motivations the characters have. The first season was exciting and elegant, a strong average, but it felt like it was about three years ago. Now it's a pity to review in order to understand who is where, why and why. And without revision and without books...what kind of "investigation" is being conducted by a couple of lower cops, if in fact everything is under "lawyers" (if they even follow the mayor); the separation of branches of government is not clear at all; what motivation Sims has is unclear; are people from higher levels so stupid that they believe that their light, water, food and metal are taken from nowhere, and not from the same mechanics (which means that they have real power - in fact, put a person in hunger and cold and he is already yours entirely), well, judging by the stupid slogans of the mayor and Sims, which people buy into, their intelligence is like hamsters. Does Nichols really have a mission for this season to reach the next bunker, and then try to return to her own all season? This is a failure. Why doesn't he ask himself where exactly the same bunker is from within walking distance, which means it's a system, and since it's empty, he can look for answers there. It would be better to ingratiate yourself with Solo in order to enter the compartment and explore. How long the guy is sitting there, how he got there, what happened, who locked him up - she has zero questions. So far, I do not know, you only look at people. The mechanics are normal guys, Walker fell in love there, it looks like the judge was not bad (although, knowing this kitchen from the inside, how could she trust anyone there at all). I don't understand by whom the "lawyers" are, if they press both the mayor and the judge, and Sims is essentially just their manager. That's who gave them the order to keep an eye on the mayor and the judge? Sims alone? So if he's so "powerful", why would he want to be a deputy? And why does the mayor then see a threat in mechanics, who in fact give him water in the tap, and not in armed people who are not under his control?
@Gingerbread_Girl: I agree with your first semantic paragraph. The first season has flown in, now something is happening that I don't understand why we're looking at this.
@Gingerbread_Girl: of course, I don't really remember the first season either, but it seems like the current mayor is the head of the lawyers, and always has been. He's the mayor now, but that's just a formality. When he was the head of IT, he was also essentially the head of the entire bunker, i.e. the head of the lawyers, and the old mayor was not particularly aware of this hidden organization.
@Gingerbread_Girl: Yeah, it's complicated, it's incomprehensible.... so it's the same in all TV series, slowly slowly, drop by drop for a hundred episodes, the plot is revealed, otherwise it won't be interesting! and I also noticed that when our people watch this series, they do not cut the main feature, although the mayor says directly, I have a book of orders, I must do it! it's clear here that their culture and ours are different, our everything is totalitarianism, dictatorship, and there is no this, there is their own, their own! which is defined by another term.
@Gingerbread_Girl: That's right about mechanics, it's utter idiocy. The distribution of power and subordination in conditions of survival is well shown in the film The Triangle of Sadness, when the one who can really give light, food, shelter becomes at the top of the hierarchy, and all sorts of lawyers have already failed.
Of course, Bernard is a weak and childless creature, the pose that he is engaged in in relation to Sims can be safely entered into the Kama Sutra. And Sims... well, a classic psychopath, a violent man who got to power. He joined the security forces and found a relatively peaceful use for his aggression. His cruelty was aggravated by marrying an equally evil, but also cunning woman. I'm waiting for this couple of maniacs to fuck up Bernard and completely destroy everything with their "wise" leadership.
@mixer1701: Can you remind me why Bernard is a weak and unnatural creature? .. I just didn't get that feeling at all. He has some hidden knowledge, such as VR glasses, which were shown to us, most likely he owns more. And this "book" , a set of laws and rules, how to act, etc. He fully believes in his mission to save the bunker, and acts only for this purpose. That he killed the woman he once loved? Well, she refused him in the past, i.e. in the present, murder is purely a formality, for the sake of the purpose.
@KratoFear: you can also add an idea like "ahaha stupid people don't understand what they are doing while the powerful of this world have solved everything and keep stability (it says so in their book)😎" Or you can just say that the only working option without uprisings is an equal dialogue, when no one needs to be killed)
*Spoiler alert* Readers of the books in the first season told in the comments that the story seems to end with the second idea.
It seems that the projects have some problems with the screenwriters or the budget. It became not interesting to watch at all (I have 3 of them now, including this one. Maybe I'm so lucky, of course). strange dialogues, illogical actions and motivation of the characters. Second-rate actors who can't act. It's like it was filmed in order to be filmed.
@Aberrabunt: Could you name the projects that are currently raising such questions for you? Sometimes it seems to me that I have problems specifically with projects that start to sag in the scripts from the second or third season.
@Aberrabunt: I agree) Dune has a weak primary source (in fact, a fanfiction of the son's authorship of his father's original books), but I still have hopes. I didn't look from the outside, but it seems to me that the Foundation was too much redone compared to the books in an attempt to throw in more diving, it turned out to be a complete nonsense, I didn't watch the second season anymore.
@Aberrabunt: I skipped from the outside after the first season and a couple of episodes of the second, although I really liked the atmosphere project from the beginning. I love this whole Stevenking thing. But there is no logic there, and chatter for the sake of chatter
@sirpravdi: at first, for some reason, they introduced a completely unnecessary character into the plot, but then they completely stupidly killed her, because they did not know where to put her next. 🤦🏻♂️
The twist with the murder of the judge was clear as soon as she was invited to the farewell dinner. Well, who's going to let her out? I feel that she left the deputies 25 years ago because she realized that some kind of experiment was being conducted on them, while her boss was a terrible fanatic and this could not be changed....
@miha_xxx: Yes, yes! The same dragon that didn't let Jules cook when she poured water on a hot engine in the first season, in a room about two meters wide. 😀
Why did the judge need to go outside? What does it have to do without a return ticket? At first she seemed to have started her interesting game, and then she was so weak and limp again... she leaked to him that she knew everything. Knowing what he is capable of and that his demand pinches him in a corner – she calmly ate with him, stayed alone ... Somehow incomprehensible and stupid for a seemingly not stupid woman...
@gera21: She seemed to me to be a smart woman, but weak. When you realize that everything is flying into the female genitals alone, but you are afraid to climb the barricades, then there is only one way out - to drink. Which is exactly what she was doing. It's a pity the character was never fully revealed. Maybe there will be more flash drives with her.
@Liza: Don't you think that the creators of such a highly technical, sophisticated bunker were able to calculate the probability of survival of the human population under different scenarios? We have already been told that "before" there had already been uprisings and the bunker had survived. Logically, Bernard is not even a pioneer, he just repeats the steps so that their entire community does not disappear.
Another thing is that there must be a way out of this cycle with revolutions, either on the path of extinction or to something else. And perhaps according to the plan of the creators, at some conditionally 5th - 25th turn, if the bunker does not die out, it will come to a logical exit outside, and there just by this time the conditions will become milder.
I was so looking forward to the second season, I was delighted with the first one. But I've been disappointed in the series for 4 episodes in a row. I hope it's just a slow swing.
I liked the moment about the glowing lights in the sky. When I watched the first season, I couldn't let go of the idea that the bunker was a miniature metaphor for the closed existence of mankind on the planet. We eagerly want to find other inhabited planets, learn about the creators and how the big world outside the Earth works
I'm interested in this (I haven't read the books, if anything) - the manual for bunker management "The Order" is very detailed and thorough, it was clearly written before the actual settlement of these bunkers, and so it looks like population control technologies have been practiced for about a hundred years, and only then the bunkers were multiplied and they drove people into them.
@Meloman_Nastena: It seems she wanted to go out and stopped drinking after Jules went over the hill. And that's why the judge is asking for a good spacesuit - she just wanted to leave too and at least see with her own eyes, even without guarantees that she will survive
@Meloman_Nastena: Well, she kind of saw the light, realized that everything that surrounds her is a lie and a pathetic illusion of the real world outside. At the same time, she could not change anything, exit or suicide or purification.
This season, no matter what episode, it's just boring. I watch more than half of it at x2 speed and it's a pity for that time. Such a disappointment. After the first season, I had high hopes for the second and was not lucky (((
Regarding the accusation of mechanics, there is such a thought: precisely because they can block the bunker and cut off the light. And they will do it. After that, it will be easier to rally everyone else against them. Just stupidly playing on people's fear.
As someone who has read books, I will tell those who do not understand a lot yet: be patient. If the creators do not move away from the books much, then you will get all the answers.
She swam 5-10 meters and was it worth making a car pumping air for this? She turned out to be at the same level from where she was floating, yeah. Did you break the drawers with your hands when the gas key fell into the water? Why did the lawyers take the body of a meter-tall kid? It's still stupid to blame the lower floors, because they can just cut everything down, and the upper floors will not be able to start everything back up
I laughed at the idea of throwing colored balls down to signal the mechanics below. It certainly looks beautiful, but why didn't they bring more spare balls with them in case of force majeure? After all, if they wanted to arrest them immediately after turning on the electricity, then their whole plan would immediately be ruined. 😂😂😂
@flaxman: Yes, the scene is incredibly stupid. Firstly, nothing prevented them from detaining them, searching them and finding the green signal ball. Secondly, they immediately took their word for it that they would now be taken alone to talk to the judge, who was simply ill. However, in general, all this can be explained by the childish naivety of the bunker's population, who literally live in a soap bubble without proper education and sources of information.
Every week you wait with interest to see what Jules has there, and they just show you 5 minutes of how she bathed, and the rest of the time they show some kind of tedium. But the first season was a cannon. It's sad that the quality has dropped so much.
To the list of nonsense already listed, I will add throwing balls that can break someone's head even when bouncing. These mechanics will overdo themselves at this rate. And why is the mayor even worried?
I agree that the second season is noticeably weaker than the first. The focus shifted from Jules to events without Jules. The judge was cool, but too tired of everything, she lost her vigilance for which she paid the price.
As I understand it, the whole point is to avoid an uprising with small forces, namely by sacrificing mechanics. Roughly speaking, war cannot be avoided, but either the whole bunker is against the security forces, or the whole bunker is against the mechanics. Of the two evils, choose the lesser.
Until the last moment, I hoped that on the way back they would throw off a dozen more red balls to their own, so that they would understand that the negotiations went as far as possible through the ass, and began to prepare for a rush
The melody on the harmonium resembles Tsvetkov's soundtrack to the film Cinderella 78, but performed by a person with poor hearing or poorly remembering it.
I don't know, for me personally, this series was decently more dynamic than the previous three, I watched it in one breath, it seemed like the season began to swing)
The series is about everything and nothing.. Bunker 18 is trying to make an uprising happen and repeat the history of bunker 17 and maybe some others..
All that is known about Bunker 17 is that the uprising happened a very long time ago, when Solo was probably still a little boy.. It is very sad that all this time he was fighting for his life alone, the rest of the survivors wanted to get to him and maybe throw him out.. I hope he sees a friend in Jules, they got along very well. And probably now there is no point in being alone and suffering further..
And... maybe Jules isn't looking to come back anymore.. By the time she gets there, the uprising may already happen and she will see the same situation as in 17…
@tanchik: But there had already been uprisings there before and following the instructions, the bunker survived. As for Saul, you can understand that he is there in an autonomous environment, food and full supplies, although I still do not understand why and why he was put there. It's just that someone a little more sophisticated, at "that" time decided to save a young guy and told Solo that he had some kind of over-mission there?
By the way, if I were Juliet, I would explore the bunker, go to all those places that are guarded in her bunkers. Bernard showed her a hidden room with a bunch of cameras and full surveillance. It would be necessary to visit the same place and quietly sniff out everything there. The bunkers are most likely designed in the same way.
@KratoFear: Yes, almost certainly the parent told Saul to stay in the bunker. Like, if everything's okay, I'll come back for you. But everything turned out to be not OK at all. And this part of the bunker is the safest place. It is not very clear what to study there, if most of it is flooded, and the most important place in terms of information is locked by Saul, who is not eager to let her in there. Well, she still has friends and her father in that bunker. She can't let them die.
@KratoFear: probably, for good, she should go down to the bottom and find the same passage to the place where the drilling system is located, perhaps there is a connection of bunkers, but this is just a guess..
Most recently, I watched the TV series Through the Snow. There are very similar series on the subject (post-apocalypse and people survive) There, too, the first season went straight in, and then it got worse and worse... I really hope that this will not happen here. But this series is boring and pointless.
What I don't understand is this: and if you stop showing people a hologram of the rainbow and beautiful world outside in the dining room, and show them the real one, then people will still want to leave the bunker?!
@linnlilu: the goal of the creators of all this badaboom (according to Hugh Howie) is for nature to be cleansed, and so that without the participation of people... and for all-about-everything-a thousand years or so. It is from this stove that you need to dance. That's why you can't let anyone out of the bunkers until the deadline comes. In general, everything is bullshit!
And I like the pace of the narrative... In fact, just like in the first season.. Judging by the trailer for the next episode, there is a movement waiting for us)
It seems that the creators of the series have finally lost the atmosphere of tension and mystery that the first season fell in love with. The plot seems to be marking time, and instead of dynamics, we are fed ordinary dialogues that lead to nothing. The theme of the refuge, which could have been revealed more deeply, with interesting twists, eventually merges into the void. It is boring, monotonous and causes only a desire to fall asleep. This is definitely a step back for a show that was once adept at keeping viewers on their toes. Hopefully, the following episodes will be able to fix this situation, otherwise the second season will be an example of how not to continue a successful story.
@a1469113: I completely agree. The events in the book are much more interesting. The show literally forces you to do other things and leave him in the background (
@a1469113: yes, and in the first season there was a burden, but judging by the book, the plot has not yet been fully revealed. there's a matryoshka doll in a matryoshka doll, it's not a shelter or a bunker, they didn't translate it correctly.
@d-polozov: I have not read the books and I watch exclusively as a viewer and all that remains is to hope that the series will go into the plot plus, otherwise it will be possible to turn on the last episode and finish it.
I didn't check the timings when there was a writers' strike, but there is clearly a scenario degradation from series to series. the guy from the canteen who came up with the concept of the solar system in his head. some balls, why are there only two, and not... three. the judge, who did not leave the room, and when she was killed, people cried as if it was Kim il Sung. Sims, who instead of yelling "don't let them leave," came out and gave a speech about the judge for almost a minute. what? how? It probably fits together more elegantly in the book. here we wrote above about the concept "blame the mechanics for everything, the functioning of the generator does NOT depend on them, and now we will clean everyone".. It's hard to look at it seriously, just to roll
@9forty: It's not that it fuses more elegantly in the book, it's just different there. Starting with the fact that Sims practically does not participate in the events, he is not really there, but everything revolves around Jules, Bernard and Lucas, who was supposed to be Bernard's shadow, but then for some reason he was sent to the mines.
Jules learned to swim very quickly) Considering that they have been living there in the bunker for so many years that they forgot about the stars, birds and so on...
A lot of unnecessary drama: 1. Why was there half a series to look for a hose and a pump, if you could do without a pump, just breathe into the hose, holding the end (so that it would not fill with water). 2. why load, if you could just go down to the bottom under your own weight (a person is no lighter than water, if anything)? 3. and most importantly (!): why bother this garden at all, if you could stupidly dive and swim? there are 10 meters maximum. 4. why break cabinet doors with your hands if you have legs? Or was there really nothing else at hand?
separately: so, in the first season, they should not have turned off the generator and electricity in any way, but then they just turned it off :)
@buckss: 1. Well, maybe because the water pressure deeper than a dozen meters will simply flatten the hose, displacing the air from it? 2. It is extremely difficult for people who can't swim to dive to a depth, and it is definitely not a swimming cms in a bunker). 3. It has already been written that in the book the distance was much greater.
For an inquisitive person like Lucas, who by his own observations came up with the device of the solar system (albeit with reservations), imagine what a shock that all this turned out to be already known to someone (the judge and the highest rank), and only after confirming his hypothesis, he was exiled to the mines. A Bitter Classic of the Inventive/Scientific Mind
Bernard's story with Meadows is so banal, but at the same time, their briefly shown relationship has made the first four episodes so far. First, all the villains already shown have a heart. And I think it's cool that the writers decided to pay attention to their personal experiences. They're human too, and it's really not easy to be responsible for so many other people. Second, Bernard's dedication to the goal is impressive. He makes sacrifices for the good of other people. Well, that's how he understands it. Although there may have been personal motives in poisoning Meadows. Whether he loved her or not, she was dear to him, and it is possible that he did not want to see how a person dear to him would just go out and die. Duct tape is duct tape, but there is nothing to breathe: there is little air in the spacesuits, there are dust clouds outside that will kill you. There is not much chance that she would have survived. Third, Meadows' parting words hit the patient. In fact, Bernard is sacrificing Meadows for some higher purpose, but the American authorities have also sacrificed the whole planet (their people, other people, nature) for the idea that they can create another society. The result of this choice is not impressive yet. It will be interesting to see how Bernard will be developed further. Considering that Sims took over some of his bookish bastardism.
Before this episode, I tried hard internally to deny the jambs in the Common's game and ignore comments about a bad game… But this incompetent monologue of Sims in the series finale, this maximum feigned gesticulation… Watch and cry. 🫠
And how is it, in previous episodes, Jules asked Solo what the sun was when he was trying to figure out which bunker she was from, and now Lucas already knows about him? 🤔
It's the same as always. Everything rests on the lower strata and they are the ones who live the worst and are hated by everyone. Without them, everyone would have died. When the mechanics understand this and consolidate. They have all the trumps in their hands, well, or red balls.
I don't understand why the authors are moving away from the book. It seems that Jules dived to start the pumps and pump water out of the bunker (and this is necessary for the rest of the story), she had a long swim, which needed air. Well, after returning, the incident with Solo was not shown
Damn, before this episode, I was still foolishly hoping that there would be an interesting story about survival and a mystery about what kind of bunkers they are. And this is an ordinary everyday story about social inequality and underhanded games that we constantly observe in our lives. Just in initially interesting locations. But there are a million such series of books and stories, give or take it now. Starting with the same thing through the snow. It's all the same, just the location of the ever-moving train. Somehow mmmi
@posredstveno: Well, I guess I'll agree. It's as if the reception of social drama in closed conditions is beginning to tire. Although, on the other hand, it doesn't seem like there will be a very rich plot without it...
When the man from the second bunker ran away to see if his compartment was closed, I couldn't help but wonder if he was real. Maybe because of the radiation, everything doesn't seem to be what it seems to her anymore) Am I the only one who thought about this, or did someone else have such thoughts?))
And it's also very sad that everything comes down to the rules again, the judge wanted a completely different outcome of events.
While watching this despondency, I am glad that I know how everything was in the original (in the book), as the author intended. It's really interesting and confusing there, there is logic in the actions of the characters, there is motivation. And this season , everything is fucked up 😐 it 's very hard to watch 😣
The Persian of the Common got to the point of horror - firstly, absolutely no actor, secondly, according to the book he was vile, but also reasonable, and here he is just vile.
I don't understand why Juliet doesn't have questions when people piss off their compartment if they're supposedly alone in the bunker.
The death scene of the judge is good, but it's also insulting to live your whole life in a bunker and only see life before on your last breath :(
Well, xs, Sims is purely playing his role, a local Beria type. His wife inspires him with all sorts of unnecessary things on the series.
She sees that he has a peculiar schizophrenia, if he scares her, she is doomed to hunger strike at least
According to the first season, it is clear that the bunker as a whole does not relate to mechanics. When the Sheriff's secretary joked that people were eating on the bottom, when the father of the Sims type transferred to the bottom, and so on.
Well, after the lights went out in the series, their popularity waned.
Surely there are instructions on how to work in the mechanical room in order to replace them, new mechanics are taken from the adjacent lower floors of the MB, after a mass cleaning.
Type cut out the tumor
I wonder if he's really the only survivor of the bunker, because sometimes the footage is so arranged, as if someone is watching them
Bernard is right in his place, the judge somehow started causing a lot of trouble. Only the dissident sheriff remains, but his house is broken into in the trailer.
I hope that they will start moving in the next episodes.
The wall records in the dungeon have paid off …
Well, like this is the stupidest thing you can let all the dogs down on, it's like biting the hand of a nursing person.
Damn, why didn't I get to read the books. One gets the feeling that this whole topic "blame the Mechanics" is that if your shelter has reached the point of rebellion, then it is unworthy to live on a renewed Earth, therefore it was prescribed to the Code to blame the Mechanics so that the Shelter would self-destruct.
Apparently, so that they do not feel this very power and are treated like this
- mechanics will not go anywhere, they are at the very bottom
- The IT department is probably powered from another location, given that there is light in the new bunker there despite the flooded generator, IT doesn't care,
- and finally, even if the mechanics start a riot, they do not have access to food, which is at level 50-70, and without food there will not be a long riot, yes, they can turn off the generator and put out all the lights, but this will just set all the inhabitants against themselves, and the task of the bunker, though with losses, but survive, so well, they'll barricade themselves down there, turn off the lights, sit for 3 weeks without food, and start giving up
An engineer because.
Does Nichols really have a mission for this season to reach the next bunker, and then try to return to her own all season? This is a failure. Why doesn't he ask himself where exactly the same bunker is from within walking distance, which means it's a system, and since it's empty, he can look for answers there. It would be better to ingratiate yourself with Solo in order to enter the compartment and explore. How long the guy is sitting there, how he got there, what happened, who locked him up - she has zero questions. So far, I do not know, you only look at people. The mechanics are normal guys, Walker fell in love there, it looks like the judge was not bad (although, knowing this kitchen from the inside, how could she trust anyone there at all). I don't understand by whom the "lawyers" are, if they press both the mayor and the judge, and Sims is essentially just their manager. That's who gave them the order to keep an eye on the mayor and the judge? Sims alone? So if he's so "powerful", why would he want to be a deputy? And why does the mayor then see a threat in mechanics, who in fact give him water in the tap, and not in armed people who are not under his control?
and I also noticed that when our people watch this series, they do not cut the main feature, although the mayor says directly, I have a book of orders, I must do it!
it's clear here that their culture and ours are different, our everything is totalitarianism, dictatorship, and there is no this, there is their own, their own! which is defined by another term.
And Sims... well, a classic psychopath, a violent man who got to power. He joined the security forces and found a relatively peaceful use for his aggression. His cruelty was aggravated by marrying an equally evil, but also cunning woman. I'm waiting for this couple of maniacs to fuck up Bernard and completely destroy everything with their "wise" leadership.
He has some hidden knowledge, such as VR glasses, which were shown to us, most likely he owns more. And this "book" , a set of laws and rules, how to act, etc. He fully believes in his mission to save the bunker, and acts only for this purpose.
That he killed the woman he once loved? Well, she refused him in the past, i.e. in the present, murder is purely a formality, for the sake of the purpose.
Or you can just say that the only working option without uprisings is an equal dialogue, when no one needs to be killed)
*Spoiler alert*
Readers of the books in the first season told in the comments that the story seems to end with the second idea.
Dune has a weak primary source (in fact, a fanfiction of the son's authorship of his father's original books), but I still have hopes. I didn't look from the outside, but it seems to me that the Foundation was too much redone compared to the books in an attempt to throw in more diving, it turned out to be a complete nonsense, I didn't watch the second season anymore.
From the outside, I can't continue the third season at all. 😐
At first she seemed to have started her interesting game, and then she was so weak and limp again...
she leaked to him that she knew everything. Knowing what he is capable of and that his demand pinches him in a corner – she calmly ate with him, stayed alone ...
Somehow incomprehensible and stupid for a seemingly not stupid woman...
Another thing is that there must be a way out of this cycle with revolutions, either on the path of extinction or to something else. And perhaps according to the plan of the creators, at some conditionally 5th - 25th turn, if the bunker does not die out, it will come to a logical exit outside, and there just by this time the conditions will become milder.
However, the motives of the judge herself are not clear. Did you really want to get out?
However, in general, all this can be explained by the childish naivety of the bunker's population, who literally live in a soap bubble without proper education and sources of information.
To the list of nonsense already listed, I will add throwing balls that can break someone's head even when bouncing. These mechanics will overdo themselves at this rate. And why is the mayor even worried?
The judge was cool, but too tired of everything, she lost her vigilance for which she paid the price.
As I understand it, the whole point is to avoid an uprising with small forces, namely by sacrificing mechanics.
Roughly speaking, war cannot be avoided, but either the whole bunker is against the security forces, or the whole bunker is against the mechanics. Of the two evils, choose the lesser.
All that is known about Bunker 17 is that the uprising happened a very long time ago, when Solo was probably still a little boy.. It is very sad that all this time he was fighting for his life alone, the rest of the survivors wanted to get to him and maybe throw him out.. I hope he sees a friend in Jules, they got along very well. And probably now there is no point in being alone and suffering further..
And... maybe Jules isn't looking to come back anymore.. By the time she gets there, the uprising may already happen and she will see the same situation as in 17…
The further turn of events is very interesting
As for Saul, you can understand that he is there in an autonomous environment, food and full supplies, although I still do not understand why and why he was put there. It's just that someone a little more sophisticated, at "that" time decided to save a young guy and told Solo that he had some kind of over-mission there?
By the way, if I were Juliet, I would explore the bunker, go to all those places that are guarded in her bunkers. Bernard showed her a hidden room with a bunch of cameras and full surveillance. It would be necessary to visit the same place and quietly sniff out everything there. The bunkers are most likely designed in the same way.
It is not very clear what to study there, if most of it is flooded, and the most important place in terms of information is locked by Saul, who is not eager to let her in there. Well, she still has friends and her father in that bunker. She can't let them die.
And how to get there if everything is flooded..
Judging by the trailer for the next episode, there is a movement waiting for us)
It is boring, monotonous and causes only a desire to fall asleep. This is definitely a step back for a show that was once adept at keeping viewers on their toes. Hopefully, the following episodes will be able to fix this situation, otherwise the second season will be an example of how not to continue a successful story.
The show literally forces you to do other things and leave him in the background (
but judging by the book, the plot has not yet been fully revealed. there's a matryoshka doll in a matryoshka doll, it's not a shelter or a bunker, they didn't translate it correctly.
1. Why was there half a series to look for a hose and a pump, if you could do without a pump, just breathe into the hose, holding the end (so that it would not fill with water).
2. why load, if you could just go down to the bottom under your own weight (a person is no lighter than water, if anything)?
3. and most importantly (!): why bother this garden at all, if you could stupidly dive and swim? there are 10 meters maximum.
4. why break cabinet doors with your hands if you have legs? Or was there really nothing else at hand?
separately: so, in the first season, they should not have turned off the generator and electricity in any way, but then they just turned it off :)
2. It is extremely difficult for people who can't swim to dive to a depth, and it is definitely not a swimming cms in a bunker).
3. It has already been written that in the book the distance was much greater.
First, all the villains already shown have a heart. And I think it's cool that the writers decided to pay attention to their personal experiences. They're human too, and it's really not easy to be responsible for so many other people.
Second, Bernard's dedication to the goal is impressive. He makes sacrifices for the good of other people. Well, that's how he understands it. Although there may have been personal motives in poisoning Meadows. Whether he loved her or not, she was dear to him, and it is possible that he did not want to see how a person dear to him would just go out and die. Duct tape is duct tape, but there is nothing to breathe: there is little air in the spacesuits, there are dust clouds outside that will kill you. There is not much chance that she would have survived.
Third, Meadows' parting words hit the patient. In fact, Bernard is sacrificing Meadows for some higher purpose, but the American authorities have also sacrificed the whole planet (their people, other people, nature) for the idea that they can create another society. The result of this choice is not impressive yet.
It will be interesting to see how Bernard will be developed further. Considering that Sims took over some of his bookish bastardism.
And how is it, in previous episodes, Jules asked Solo what the sun was when he was trying to figure out which bunker she was from, and now Lucas already knows about him? 🤔
And it's also very sad that everything comes down to the rules again, the judge wanted a completely different outcome of events.