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Released: 10.01.202510.01.2025 15:00
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s02e09
s02e02 - Order
s02e03 - Solo
s02e04 - The Harmonium
s02e05 - Descent
s02e06 - Barricades
s02e07 - The Dive
s02e08 - The Book of Quinn
s02e09 - The Safeguard
s02e10 - Into the Fire

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UTKA_BLACK
UTKA_BLACK
10 Jan 10:15 #
How many Juliet are there in this episode) And again, how much is just a decent person. I could have quit Solo, but I couldn't.
I really like everything about the plot. Progress has entered people's heads, and rules and laws are becoming remnants and archaisms due to development. Change does not pave the path to anarchy, it is the path to evolution and acceptance of a new world beyond escape. Life will find a way, even if it is hindered.
hotdog666
hotdog666
10 Jan 18:05 #
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AtomnijPchelovek
AtomnijPchelovek
11 Jan 03:24 #
@hotdog666: You probably weren't paying attention. She says I found a suit, and I could have run away. But she didn't leave. And it's a second time for her to enter IT, she doesn't need supplies, but to return to her bunker.
hotdog666
hotdog666
11 Jan 10:12 #
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PiRanha
PiRanha
13 Jan 19:53 #
@UTKA_BLACK: are the rules and laws remnants?)))))
UTKA_BLACK
UTKA_BLACK
13 Jan 20:58 #
@PiRanha: In these shelters. No more than) Like in the movie "The City of Amber". It's time to get up and leave the shelter, but the mayor doesn't need it, he's mad with power and doesn't want to lose it.
It turns out that the idealistic and blind implementation of conditional laws turns managers into dependent lunatics, and everyone else into obedient slaves.
As a result, we are witnessing history not in its infancy, but already in its development. Common sense drives people, they ask questions, and the general consciousness begins to change.
But we must understand that some managers perform their function, which they are rooted in, while others have a natural process of development / evolution.
Hidji
Hidji
14 Jan 01:53 #
@UTKA_BLACK: Common sense has taken the people in the next bunker far, where is Jules now? In fact, they go straight to the same junction, so it is unlikely that in this case laws and regulations can be considered an anachronism. It's not Amber, it's not like that up here.
raziel2011
raziel2011
14 Jan 02:05 #
@Hidji: well, there is a golden mean for every autocrat — so that you don't get killed and rise up, you need the truth ;)
Hidji
Hidji
14 Jan 02:08 #
@raziel2011: and I agree with that. The mayor follows the instructions too relentlessly, completely unaware of his charges. A dosed portion of the truth could greatly improve the situation.
UTKA_BLACK
UTKA_BLACK
14 Jan 02:34 #
@Hidji: Suppression within the framework of these laws and regulations has turned into oppression. It's obvious. The truth would set everyone free. But whether from his great importance in his eyes, or from something else, Bernard does not give people true knowledge. From their keeper, turned into a guard)
Of course, the scenario of another shelter is sad, but this is a consequence. I want to believe that with the return of Juliet, everything will change, and these changes will be as non-bloody as possible.
Hidji
Hidji
14 Jan 03:23 #
@UTKA_BLACK: I'm sorry, but it's difficult for me to speak about this in anything other than lengthy phrases without risking spoiling the full program). Even if the series differs from the books, it's not that significant. So let's watch the final one and wait for the third season))).
UTKA_BLACK
UTKA_BLACK
14 Jan 03:26 #
@Hidji: I haven't read it. I'm watching it with pleasure. Everything is fine, both the series and the discussions.
Norax
Norax
14 Jan 12:23 #
@Hidji: I agree)))in discussing this particular topic, it is very difficult not to spoil how it will end)))
PiRanha
PiRanha
19 Jan 17:36 #
@UTKA_BLACK: And when people come to the surface, they won't need laws and rules anymore? Rules and laws should change, not disappear. Otherwise, people will just kill each other, which is what we see in the series, in the story, around. Well, you're talking some kind of pink nonsense.
UTKA_BLACK
UTKA_BLACK
19 Jan 20:52 #
@PiRanha: I hope that not only laws, norms, and rules, but also common sense keep you from killing other people.
Don't take my words to heart, just think about it first. I wrote that this is not the way to anarchy, read it again and before going to bed again!
"You're talking some kind of pink nonsense." - take off your pink glasses, maybe then the colors will be more natural.
PiRanha
PiRanha
20 Jan 00:58 #
@UTKA_BLACK: Yes, yes, take up rereading, following your advice, clown
reddit
reddit
10 Jan 12:32 #
and in another shelter, the AI is suspiciously silent :)
in this one, I understand, it is also engaged in planning and sometimes gives commands.
Norax
Norax
10 Jan 15:28 #
@reddit: but this is not AI)))Although, of course, there are big differences regarding the book in the series finale, maybe the AI will get mixed up...but I liked how they did it in bunker 17, close enough to the book, even though they said in the last episode that they would gallop along the plot...
ar97ar
ar97ar
10 Jan 13:44 #
Another tie follows from the denouement))

Bernard rip 🫡finally even enough time for Juliet)
And it turned out cool with Lucas, the guy didn't develop as a character behind a screen. 👍🏽
malfoy_n1
malfoy_n1
10 Jan 15:14 #
I really enjoyed this episode! More Juliet and more plot shifts, finally!
SheldonKooper
SheldonKooper
10 Jan 15:42 #
At the end of the season, the plot began to move, at least, a good episode.
Flanker
Flanker
10 Jan 16:18 #
I wish all episodes of the 2nd season of "Shelter" were as interesting as this one. After all, they can show almost all the main characters and give everyone time.
MiKaminskas
MiKaminskas
10 Jan 16:31 #
Is it strange that Wilkins and Medow found the door, but then came back?
kotenokgaff
kotenokgaff
16 Jan 12:05 #
@MiKaminskas: I was more surprised that Meadows asked to come out knowing the truth.
creator25ars
creator25ars
10 Jan 17:41 #
Was that the AI talking to him?????
SoNa_13
SoNa_13
12 Jan 07:46 #
@creator25ars: If we go from the plot of the books, then it is unlikely. But this is not exactly the plot of the books, or rather not the plot of the books at all. Although objectively speaking it would be difficult to describe the plot of the third book, it is easier to do it through a tunnel.
hotdog666
hotdog666
10 Jan 18:09 #
They live there normally without food, what was there to climb into the bunker for, little rats...
kiprian_zhurov
kiprian_zhurov
PRO
10 Jan 18:57 #
@hotdog666: So I don't understand what the point is.
There are clothes, food, hygiene products
What else is needed
It would be fine if they were just boiling with hatred for solo
ar97ar
ar97ar
10 Jan 20:40 #
@kiprian_zhurov: probably, when there were more of them, there was a shortage of food, and they just wanted to take revenge Solo.
Well, it's just that you have some kind of goal, so that you can exist for a reason.
Hidji
Hidji
11 Jan 01:15 #
@kiprian_zhurov: it was just that the dumbest of them was commanding the little rats). Even the little ones have better brains than this rabid one.
AtomnijPchelovek
AtomnijPchelovek
11 Jan 03:27 #
@Hidji: really pissed me off) The categorical nature of her decisions is not childishly annoying. Even at the end, when Solo almost agreed to give the code, the bow keeps in a fighting position. Everyone has already figured it out, she's the only one who's stupid
tweedlecat
tweedlecat
PRO
11 Jan 00:35 #
@hotdog666: They eat rats like that.
kiprian_zhurov
kiprian_zhurov
PRO
11 Jan 01:18 #
@tweedlecat: You can't eat that kind of shit on rats.
I remember the cheeky hungry one from the Hunger Games;
Well, let them get a little thinner and dirtier if they really walk around the bunker without food and everything else.
naravi
naravi
11 Jan 01:27 #
@kiprian_zhurov: but Jennifer Lawrence is skinny, just big cheeks)
kiprian_zhurov
kiprian_zhurov
PRO
11 Jan 01:29 #
@naravi: yes, yes, you look and believe that you live half-starved)
Hidji
Hidji
11 Jan 01:44 #
@kiprian_zhurov: She should have looked different, but said she refused to go on a diet, as the filmmakers demanded.)
kiprian_zhurov
kiprian_zhurov
PRO
11 Jan 04:15 #
@Hidji: That's what I'm talking about)
hotdog666
hotdog666
11 Jan 11:04 #
@tweedlecat: so they're delicious
andrwell
andrwell
11 Jan 11:11 #
@tweedlecat: And what do rats eat? There's no grub -))
tweedlecat
tweedlecat
PRO
11 Jan 13:01 #
@kiprian_zhurov: Open the window, it's stuffy
kiprian_zhurov
kiprian_zhurov
PRO
11 Jan 13:39 #
@tweedlecat: If a movie/series is fascinating in history, then I forgive everything.
If not, that's it.
Slyther_In
Slyther_In
10 Jan 18:43 #
This dialogue between Solo, Juliet, and the survivalists from the shelter tore me apart.😭💔

It's good that everyone ate ice cream afterwards.
flaxman
flaxman
11 Jan 02:51 #
@Slyther_In: I wonder how he kept the ice cream there for 40 years? According to the book , he actually ate canned food there 🤷🏻♂️
Hidji
Hidji
11 Jan 03:15 #
@flaxman: technically, if you have a freezer, you can just make it if your parents taught you how. Powdered milk, sugar, water. As an option.
id763260414
id763260414
11 Jan 16:24 #
@flaxman: and then how many stocks are there in general?? That he ended up letting everyone in and now he's going to feed them all the time?
Slyther_In
Slyther_In
11 Jan 22:27 #
@flaxman: I also thought about all this during the series, like yes, right now everyone will agree, Solo will launch them, and for the story arc this is a happy ending, but logically it's only a temporary solution. But in this case, I preferred to go with the flow, because a) I haven't read it, I don't know the nuances, but there is a direct answer from the original source (judging by your comment, no) and b) the denouement (the end of supplies) for this question will take, uh, some time, which the series does not have, so perhaps this moment is omitted intentionally.
SoNa_13
SoNa_13
12 Jan 07:51 #
@Slyther_In: There is an answer in the original source and it is quite logical there. Although, of course, there are no such choruses there, but there would be enough food there for Solo for a long time, for about his entire life. Because that's how the shelter was built. All finite and irreplaceable resources are designed for about 250 years. (Canned food in a sealed compartment, overalls, light bulbs - it's kind of like it was said in the third book).
Slyther_In
Slyther_In
12 Jan 12:31 #
@SoNa_13: Does this mean that when Solo lets the kids in, they're all going to die soon because there aren't enough supplies for so many mouths?

I just haven't figured it out yet (as it will be clarified in the next episode), is it a fatality from the Solo point of view, or will everything be fine there when Jules leaves, and they will continue to live happily ever after as a strange, dysfunctional family
SoNa_13
SoNa_13
12 Jan 13:17 #
@Slyther_In: I don't want to spoil it too much. And the plot of the series is not exactly based on the book. But even taking into account the children, there would be enough supplies for several years. In addition, in the book, the children did not need to eat Solo, since all this time they survived at the expense of farms, whose work supported the children at the level that the farm provided them with what they needed. Well, they also ate rats, dogs, and fish that swam in the flooded part of the shelter.
Slyther_In
Slyther_In
12 Jan 13:20 #
@SoNa_13: Okay, thanks a lot for your delicacy! And for the information too)
Kentavr
Kentavr
13 Jan 05:55 #
@SoNa_13: There were no dogs, he could only solo fish, and he taught them later. And the rest is like that, yes :D
Especially about "not by the book." It would even be more accurate to say "not by the book at all."
I had a question almost the whole episode: "what the hell is going on here?! What about Audrey, where is Hannah, where is Eliza, where is the cohesion between the children, what kind of squabble, and what kind of children they are here... And what kind of seyfgard soap..." :D
But it was interesting, you can't take that away. Judging by the title, we are waiting for a warm welcome and hugs in the next episode.
SoNa_13
SoNa_13
13 Jan 10:04 #
@Kentavr: To be honest, I don't mind changing the book. So far, it looks logical and good, from my point of view.
I guess I got carried away with dogs. But at first they were definitely eaten. In the third book we wrote about it.
I think both the book and the series are good in terms of plot. Because what was in the third book is not very realizable to me (that's why there is a tunnel at the bottom) as for me!
Kentavr
Kentavr
13 Jan 11:47 #
@SoNa_13: why is this unrealizable? It is no more difficult to implement than they have shown now.
The tummies were gone by the time the children arrived. Think of Solo's Shadow.
SoNa_13
SoNa_13
13 Jan 12:32 #
@Kentavr:

it seemed to me that the story about the clogged earthmoving machine into which they crammed a backup reactor was difficult to implement
kiprian_zhurov
kiprian_zhurov
PRO
10 Jan 18:53 #
What nonsense
We ate rats, but we have great hair and teeth, not skinny, a healthy child, and we shot arrows, and we communicate well with other people.
We want to go to the storage
But it's not entirely clear why, if the food and hairstyles are nothing like that.
e_g_rotman
e_g_rotman
10 Jan 19:40 #
@kiprian_zhurov: as for healthy teeth and hair, you can make a reference to books (more precisely, to the last one). It was there that Juliet's father had this question.
kiprian_zhurov
kiprian_zhurov
PRO
10 Jan 19:50 #
@e_g_rotman: I'm watching the show, not reading it.
And if it's explained later in the series, no problem.
But I'm not going to read anything for the answers.
flaxman
flaxman
11 Jan 02:53 #
@e_g_rotman: it happened, but the books never explained it in plain text, although there were hints.
kiprian_zhurov
kiprian_zhurov
PRO
11 Jan 04:17 #
@flaxman: wrote higher
I want to read books, no problem
I don't read Season 2 books
minerva13
minerva13
11 Jan 15:19 #
@flaxman: what was in the books?
flaxman
flaxman
11 Jan 15:22 #
@minerva13: Well, the question was raised why such healthy children and their children grew up in such conditions, and they don't get sick with anything, and their teeth are all good, and so on. They did not give an explicit answer, they left only hints.
minerva13
minerva13
11 Jan 15:35 #
@flaxman: дякую)
nastence
nastence
11 Jan 16:26 #
@flaxman: they explained it in plain text. when they realized what Anna had done.
UntrueMe
UntrueMe
11 Jan 18:01 #
@nastence: How did you explain it? I don't even remember
flaxman
flaxman
11 Jan 21:13 #
@nastence: I didn't really understand what she did in the end and how they explained it. Did she replace the gas that they wanted to destroy shelter 17 with? 🤷🏻‍♂️
kiprian_zhurov
kiprian_zhurov
PRO
12 Jan 07:46 #
@flaxman: Come on, please, no spoilers.
Even if it's not like that, you've ruined my viewing pleasure.
SoNa_13
SoNa_13
12 Jan 07:53 #
@flaxman: The books seem to have given a direct answer to why they are healthy and why they don't get sick at all.
DimasFantomas
DimasFantomas
13 Jan 00:41 #
@flaxman: Yes, she changed the gas, but it wasn't replaced everywhere.
Therefore, the outside of the body has decomposed strongly, but inside you can find more preserved ones.
Well, the diseases and everything else of the remaining inhabitants were affected by the fact that they are healthier than they should have been under such living conditions.
kingforthesirens
kingforthesirens
10 Jan 19:39 #
Wow, they can when they want to. A wonderful series, triple beautiful against the background of the little-filled previous ones. It's a pity that this is the penultimate episode of the season, I want more such good episodes.
mixer1701
mixer1701
PRO
10 Jan 19:53 #
Juliette is just like a ruptured aorta, there is so much kindness and compassion in her. She has a lot of problems of her own, but she helps Solo and these poor bastards.
And yes, ragamuffins don't look the same as the homeless and hungry.
The Sims family is tricky, and I hope they'll get a fan to watch videos with old ladies.
TheDrFreeman
TheDrFreeman
10 Jan 22:44 #
@mixer1701: "...valnut amateur watch videos with old ladies."
Ahahah) Thank you for your comment :D
kotenokgaff
kotenokgaff
16 Jan 12:10 #
@mixer1701: she helps to avoid being shot like that and to find a costume (she found the second one when she had already agreed that she would not be killed)

Let them not literally kill you, but drive you upstairs, let's say that too = death
vizya
vizya
10 Jan 20:02 #
Guys, can you tell me where the second season is going in the books?
JardimFramboesa
JardimFramboesa
10 Jan 23:29 #
@vizya: It's also interesting. I haven't read it, but I understand that this is still the first book. And the second one seems to have a background on where the shelters came from. It can be assumed that the first book will be stretched over three seasons.
g1571243
g1571243
10 Jan 23:45 #
@JardimFramboesa: Yes, this is the first book. if it stretches into the third full-fledged season, it will be a kick-ass tasteless, as for me
the second book is the creation of shelters + the beginning of life in them
flaxman
flaxman
11 Jan 02:55 #
@JardimFramboesa: It would hardly be more logical to end the season in the same place where the first book ended, but this is Apple and logic is not their strong suit. 🤷🏻♂️
Ir5a
Ir5a
11 Jan 06:59 #
@JardimFramboesa: This is the second book. The third is about the first bunker
JardimFramboesa
JardimFramboesa
12 Jan 02:09 #
@Ir5a: And now, then, where are we at in the first book? How much longer until the end of the book?
SoNa_13
SoNa_13
12 Jan 07:59 #
@JardimFramboesa: Judging by the fact that we have one episode left... The third season will be until the end of the first book. Because there are still enough events in the book (There are a few spoilers here - at least the riot didn't end at all and Jules didn't return to the 18th shelter...although she did it in a couple of chapters in the book, the water wasn't drained at 17 and the relationship between Jules and Lucas hasn't started at all yet, although according to the books it's about time). But as for me, it's not for 10 episodes, although I like the way the characters are revealed in the series much more than in the book. The author of the books can really believe in the plot, but he lacks the fullness of the characters themselves.
JardimFramboesa
JardimFramboesa
10 Jan 20:58 #
A great episode, for sure the season will end, as always, in the most interesting place. So far, it's unclear if the judge got to that place, why she didn't go any further, why the voice didn't speak to Juliet's boyfriend.🤷🏻♀️
flaxman
flaxman
11 Jan 02:57 #
@JardimFramboesa: Juliet's boyfriend was neither the head of I.T. nor his intern. Maybe that's the point.
pomidorchik28
pomidorchik28
10 Jan 21:22 #
Did I understand correctly that the guy and the girl with the arrows are brother and sister and they have two children?
Little_Squirrel
Little_Squirrel
10 Jan 21:57 #
@pomidorchik28: No, they have different parents—the corpses of Rick's mom and Audrey's dad are lying at the door; they got together after the other parents died. The little boy Benny is their son together. It turns out that Rick and Audrey are half—brother and sister, and they have one child, a baby.

(they talk about it at the 17th minute of the episode)
pomidorchik28
pomidorchik28
10 Jan 22:00 #
@Little_Squirrel: о спасибо 🖤
g1557380
g1557380
11 Jan 14:46 #
@Little_Squirrel: It smells like incest.
flaxman
flaxman
11 Jan 15:24 #
@g1557380: Incest is a family matter 🤷🏻♂️
id763260414
id763260414
11 Jan 16:09 #
@Little_Squirrel: So Rick and Audrey have DIFFERENT parents. So they're not stepbrothers or siblings. The fact that their mother and father began to partner strongly after their birth does not make their children blood relatives. So, thank the gods, you can forget about incest.
id763260414
id763260414
11 Jan 16:10 #
@id763260414: but Benny's boy-yes, they have to be together
Little_Squirrel
Little_Squirrel
11 Jan 17:40 #
@id763260414: So I'm not saying they're blood relatives. A stepbrother and a sister are just those who do not have common parents, that is, they are relatives purely formally. If there is one father, it is called "consanguineous," if there is one mother, it is called "consubstantial."
id763260414
id763260414
12 Jan 02:15 #
@Little_Squirrel: No, it's just the stepbrothers - it's not even formal at all. Because, as you correctly wrote, one of the parents is shared. Therefore, there is a genetic relationship in any way and, therefore, they are relatives and quite close. And when mom came to the family with her child and dad with his, then these children are, from a genetic point of view, nobody to each other. Therefore, getting married and having children is not a problem at all, there is no blood relationship. Yes, in a particular country it may be legally illegal, it may not be approved by society, but from the point of view, so to speak, incest, impoverishment of the genetic fund (which is important in such isolated populations as the bunker), transmission of genetically determined diseases - there are no problems.
Little_Squirrel
Little_Squirrel
12 Jan 02:44 #
@id763260414: God, I'm not talking about this at all, I'm not saying that incest is taking place here, I'm just saying on the contrary — they are stepbrothers, not blood relatives, so it's generally normal for them to have a child together :)

Just read the meaning of the phrase "stepbrothers" in any dictionary, and in the same Wikipedia. Ushakov, for example, has it well written: "Stepchildren are children from the first marriages of persons who entered into a second marriage, i.e. not relatives, not consanguineous or consubstantial, but strangers, brought together into one family."
id763260414
id763260414
12 Jan 06:36 #
@Little_Squirrel: в этом смысле - ок))
vk775121
vk775121
12 Jan 07:43 #
@id763260414: when one parent is in common , it is called kindred , and so are stepbrothers when there are different parents .
Norax
Norax
11 Jan 12:11 #
@pomidorchik28: According to the book, yes, in the series they decided to beat this slippery issue.
pomidorchik28
pomidorchik28
10 Jan 21:33 #
And if the very bottom of the shelter is where the door and tunnel are, then where are their shafts? Are the mines higher than the mechanics?
iken
iken
11 Jan 02:09 #
@pomidorchik28: I think that "mines" is just a name for hard labor in some technical compartments, like cleaning sewers. because there is nowhere to drip there. There's this secret compartment with a shrew on the bottom. and the bunkers are too tightly packed to the side, as we were shown earlier.
id763260414
id763260414
11 Jan 16:12 #
@iken: they have a coal-fired generator, as I understand it. So there are mines, too🤷♀️
iken
iken
11 Jan 18:04 #
@id763260414: No, the generator, as shown last season, runs on steam, and they don't seem to know where this steam comes from, judging by how it was repaired. and again, there is simply nowhere to dig, especially in so many years, if not centuries, the mines would have been dug up for another bunker.
id763260414
id763260414
12 Jan 02:18 #
@iken: Yes, that's right! For a couple. Some kind of geothermal source? But then what are they really doing in the mines? Maybe iron ore is mined?)) But again, where? It's not that far from bunker to bunker
u1568464
u1568464
12 Jan 18:27 #
@id763260414: Somewhere in the episode, Judge Meadows told this IT inmate that, thanks to the mines, the bunker has many household items..
As for the source of steam, I don't understand, but if the steam came out, the turbine was turned on, then where did it go?, there must be some kind of outlet pipe like in a thermal power plant, and perhaps engineers should think twice and build pipes to repair the turbine so that the steam can be diverted directly to the outlet....
Kentavr
Kentavr
13 Jan 06:05 #
@iken: they get their own oil there, if anything.
And the mines are really mines where they dig all kinds of unspecified things.
It's just that the series was simplified somewhat so as not to bother with the layout, but I think they'll show you what's what, albeit in a modified form.
iken
iken
13 Jan 08:33 #
@Kentavr: Nichosi, this is straight fantasy for some time now, it means. and in what direction and where in the books are these mines located?
Kentavr
Kentavr
13 Jan 11:51 #
@iken: They didn't pay much attention to them there, they were just, well, under the bunker somehow. But this shrew is slightly to the side, but approximately at the level of the entrance to the mines. In principle, she's on the sidelines here, they're also going through a gap in the wall somewhere there, but here the concept is different.
amadei
amadei
25 Jan 01:22 #
@iken: The mines are in the books, to be honest, I don't remember there being any. the tunnels went SIDEWAYS. The books say that digging SIDEWAYS is against the rules of the pact and is severely punished. It was forbidden for people not to find their neighbors. Actually, the tunnels appear in the books already when the rebellion ended and the government was replaced. I'm writing in quotation marks so as not to spoil it too much.
tipaigrok
tipaigrok
04 Feb 16:40 #
@iken: And before that, there was a straight documentary))
N_Gagarin
N_Gagarin
11 Jan 05:18 #
@pomidorchik28: According to the books, they were sent in the opposite direction to the excavations.
u1568464
u1568464
12 Jan 01:21 #
@N_Gagarin: Anyway, you have to put what you've dug up somewhere...
u1568464
u1568464
12 Jan 18:31 #
@u1568464: That's right, I've been thinking about it too... But maybe they'll explain something to us later... And judging by the video from above on the street, there are bunkers very close to each other, and if there are 50 or 51 of them, then they cannot be located like honeycombs and at the same time each bunker should have one side open to the mines ...
Although it is possible that only the extreme bunkers had fishing in the mines....
Liyuuuuunder
Liyuuuuunder
10 Jan 21:53 #
Solo with his wonder shop
_dasha_t
_dasha_t
10 Jan 23:19 #
Every time I'm amazed by the size of the bunker, how many years did it take people to build it!? Is it time for us to build such structures too due to the unstable situation in the modern world)
g1571243
g1571243
10 Jan 23:48 #
@_dasha_t: according to the books, it took about three years to build.. I didn't finish listening to the second book, maybe it took a few more years for the rest of the shelters, although it seems that they started building everything in parallel.
mavlytovfagiz
mavlytovfagiz
PRO
11 Jan 01:00 #
@_dasha_t: watch the video on the channel Mr. Bist video & # 34; 24 hours in the doomsday bunker& # 34;
and the Moscow Metro is one big doomsday bunker)
krook
krook
12 Jan 00:47 #
@_dasha_t: corruption will never allow it to be completed. Although one grandfather has long had his own.
DFG39
DFG39
16 Jan 18:43 #
@krook: The fat was dropped
what_if
what_if
18 Jan 01:21 #
@DFG39: Get well!
DFG39
DFG39
18 Jan 12:04 #
@what_if: Good riddance
LoveToBones
LoveToBones
10 Jan 23:32 #
The series is awesome! I'm glad that we finally told the story of Solo. It is very sad to realize that he was just a child during the riot. And he watched his father die without opening the door.
I am glad that Lucas has been returned from exile and that this character has been developed. Now he is one of the key characters for the plot.
The end is steep, I've been waiting for this tunnel to appear since I saw the drawings of the bunker in the first season.
u1568464
u1568464
15 Jan 01:01 #
@LoveToBones: interestingly, it turns out that only 3 people were at that door, and it seems that the current mayor of Bereard does not know about that place ...
And now it is clear where Meadows judge went, in a conversation over her deadly dinner... She must have gone downstairs... But how did she know all about it? Maybe they'll tell you in the end...
I think why they're forcing you to move only according to the regulations, because most likely, with any deviations, the bunker will be destroyed from the outside...
Shi3andra
Shi3andra
16 Jan 21:42 #
@u1568464: As I understand it, Judge Meadows deciphered the message, which Lucas has now read.
id20873592
id20873592
11 Jan 01:05 #
It's a good episode, I liked it. It seemed to me that Knox understood about the wiretapping or Marsha's betrayal, but did not condemn her, but decided to use this and gave her some kind of sign so that she would understand him.
Paramelion
Paramelion
11 Jan 14:24 #
@id20873592: Well, he hinted that those who are listening would not understand. And gave false information for them)
fedechqa
fedechqa
11 Jan 03:25 #
Did we really wait for a really cool episode that we didn't want to speed up, but also in which the plot finally moved? Hurray! But the archer, so eager to kill, still managed to add a little bit.))
mariiakrechman
mariiakrechman
11 Jan 03:58 #
Great, two interesting episodes per season, the first and the ninth, I hope the tenth will not let you down!

But they brought some noise to the end, of course, it's terribly interesting what's next!)
Yantsen
Yantsen
11 Jan 05:30 #
Jules has mastered new hobbies during the season: diving, psychotherapy 🌝
Laedde
Laedde
PRO
11 Jan 19:51 #
@Yantsen: >immortality
judging by the number of wounds)
Yantsen
Yantsen
12 Jan 03:01 #
@Laedde: The scenic armor is pleasant to the body!
tanчик
tanчик
11 Jan 10:14 #
One of the few very interesting episodes of the entire season, I wonder if Jules will return to his bunker after all? 🧐

Will the intern find what he's looking for?

What if it's all an experiment?
PavelFyodorov
PavelFyodorov
11 Jan 11:20 #
I'm amazed how the "founders" could have foreseen so many branches of events and written instructions for them for the heads of IT. If a strong AI is introduced into the plot, it will explain a lot. An AI with a program for preserving bunkers, who invented and implemented a system for cleaning the "memory" of the population of bunkers, etc.
In fact, Bernard is really trying to save the shelter from extinction, as it was in the 17th century. A typical "villain" for the viewer, as they want to show him, but in fact a man of duty.
Paramelion
Paramelion
11 Jan 14:25 #
@PavelFyodorov: and what prevents everyone from telling everything honestly?) Then there would be no series)
Максим_Кравченко
Максим_Кравченко
15 Jan 08:24 #
@Paramelion: It's forbidden by the pact.)
kotenokgaff
kotenokgaff
16 Jan 12:18 #
@Paramelion: I believe that this is described in the code of rules for the heads of IT (Bernard mentioned it several times when he was talking to the judge and, like, with Sims).

it's probably anticipated there- if you tell everything, for example, people will be depressed and start working poorly \ supplying the bunker\ supporting bunker processes, killing themselves out of desperation, going crazy, the level of violence will rise - in total, the bunker will die out in the end due to lack of sufficient gene pool.
ИнтeрecныйФиллep
ИнтeрecныйФиллep
PRO
11 Jan 17:44 #
@PavelFyodorov: My theory is that AI is the main villain of the bunker universe. He destroyed the world and drove people underground, deprived them of technology, and wrote a Charter with many prohibitions. I haven't read any books, I only judge by the series.
Dark_Alice
Dark_Alice
13 Jan 01:23 #
@ИнтeрecныйФиллep: We don't need any AI to destroy the world. We're doing great on our own.
u1568464
u1568464
15 Jan 01:02 #
@PavelFyodorov: Yes, Bernard is an interesting character, I like that he is a very far-thinking strategist... All his actions are like clockwork..
andrwell
andrwell
11 Jan 11:22 #
I don't share everyone's excitement about the series. A group of survivors is as illogical as possible as a unit of existence in this world. How did you live, what did you eat, what did you do? They also multiplied, holy shit! Plus the young, hysterical morons (I mean the girl with the bow), they're in the Afr.. Bunker - juvenile morons -))
S0N0FMAN
S0N0FMAN
11 Jan 13:21 #
@andrwell: look at a hundred
SlepoiZadrot
SlepoiZadrot
11 Jan 13:08 #
I really liked the moment with a little "hysteria" Jules, like, yes, I'm tired of you all, you need this code, not me, I can just leave)))
When you help, you help, but they don't believe you, and you also have to prove it)) The generous Jules
S0N0FMAN
S0N0FMAN
11 Jan 13:19 #
Do you know what the Mister Kyle protection system is?
- I know, well, it's when a man and a woman have sex with a condom.
AI: Oh my God
Kentavr
Kentavr
13 Jan 06:10 #
@S0N0FMAN: Safeguard – это мыло!
6o4ka
6o4ka
PRO
13 Jan 11:21 #
@Kentavr: Johnson's baby is just a fairy tale, Johnson's baby doesn't pinch his eyes!))
egri4
egri4
11 Jan 14:16 #
A lot has become clear. Awesome
And now we take into account the fact that the series of novels was written in 2011, that is, and even the books may have an AI model that controls the bunker, leading the analysis, quite logically.
Although I haven't read the books and I'm afraid of spoilers. And what else does this date 2011 give us? That's right, there was already a Fallout universe with bunkers and ..... experiments..... Maybe that's why they're constantly playing with the 50/51 bunker number? What are the elites of this world drinking juice in their neighborhood at 51?) I directly reviewed, they said 50/51 several times.

It turns out that the judge got drunk after talking to the AI, and therefore, after coming out of a binge, she asked to go outside. Seeing that Jewel had survived? The conclusion is that the AI destroys the entire bunker in case of threat/rejection. However, from what? From the purpose of the experiment? We are waiting for the rest of the letter about “safeguard”. Corny, but interesting.

The most interesting thing is that after Salvador Quinn talked to AI, he did not fall to the bottom of the bottle, but imposed censorship on books, banning everything, and as we know from previous episodes, was the world 140 years old? That is, out of fear, he went to such lengths to save the bunker from being cleaned up.

If it turns out that the other 50 had exactly the same people/rules/model of AI, and not as in fallout - different experiments and kits. It turns out that they are trying to breed a submissive race of people who would not rebel every 25 years.

And don't spoil it, please.
egri4
egri4
11 Jan 14:35 #
And yet, for so many years, only a couple of people have gone down to the bottom? Yes, it's great, you showed the moment where the mechanics "almost at the bottom" left their names on the wall of memory, solving the mystery of the pattern, why they are always accused of everything at every mutiny.
Has no one tied a longer rope?
Or do they all have a fear of water instilled in them since childhood?
id763260414
id763260414
11 Jan 16:20 #
@egri4: the main thing is, how will he reach this rope when he goes back? And another, I realize, stuffy moment: did the judge climb the rope too?? And did you come down too? Was she young and athletic, just like Juliet? And then you got drunk and got fat?
kingforthesirens
kingforthesirens
11 Jan 17:24 #
@egri4: Well, imagine living in a bunker, an absolutely enclosed space, everything you consume is the result of the work of this closed system. Everything is limited and regulated, hence the control over the number of people. It's the same with water - they have no seas, no rivers, no lakes. All available water is from the tap and in the irrigation systems of farms.
Even if the mechanics went down, how do you think they would feel from such a HUGE amount of water? I would have fucked up, to be honest.
JardimFramboesa
JardimFramboesa
12 Jan 02:17 #
@kingforthesirens: I would be fucked even considering that I have rivers, seas, lakes😹
u1568464
u1568464
12 Jan 18:32 #
@JardimFramboesa: I'd be blown away just by the digger machine itself from above.
Danusha0803
Danusha0803
13 Jan 12:13 #
@egri4: But I remember that there seemed to be more water in the first season, where Jules almost drowned, but now she's knee-deep.
u1568464
u1568464
15 Jan 01:06 #
@kingforthesirens: In general, it's interesting to see that when you look into it, it's as if you're experiencing yourself with the hero on the screen, and it's also very emotional how they look at this torn sheet from a magazine reverently, and you understand them by imagining yourself in their place.
James_Kirk
James_Kirk
15 Jan 23:51 #
@Danusha0803: I specifically watched this moment from the first season, they didn't show us that she went under water. Jules got scared and stayed hanging on the rope, and that was the end of the episode.
Danusha0803
Danusha0803
16 Jan 00:11 #
@James_Kirk: о, спасибо 🙏🏻
Kentavr
Kentavr
13 Jan 06:13 #
@egri4: beautifully painted, my honor!
Paramelion
Paramelion
11 Jan 14:39 #
The series is cool. So many lines and everything promotes the plot.
Of course, I kind of ran into a spoiler here in the comments about the fate of the mayor) But I just want to see how it all happens)

And I'm curious) How the judge went down to the tunnel) Or was it back in her youth)

flaxman
flaxman
11 Jan 15:30 #
@Paramelion: That was 25 years ago, sort of
skagerrak
skagerrak
11 Jan 19:47 #
@Paramelion: Perhaps the judge thought to take a longer rope and make knots on it at regular intervals so that the feet rest on them, this greatly simplifies the matter.
Paramelion
Paramelion
11 Jan 21:30 #
@skagerrak: Yeah, I went down to the technical floor with this rope, and no one suspected anything)
kotenokgaff
kotenokgaff
16 Jan 12:23 #
@Paramelion: but I was surprised that Jules was descending on some kind of rope, which, if I remember correctly, she was looking for and carrying.

And these two, without returning from somewhere, immediately took out a long rope (longer than Jules had, like), not even a rope.

And yes, it's not clear about Meadows at all how she got there, even if she was young.
g1557380
g1557380
11 Jan 14:57 #
I have a theory:
maybe these tunnels under the Bunker are a passage between the bunkers.
It's strange that no one dared to dive, explore
id763260414
id763260414
11 Jan 16:21 #
@g1557380: I think so too
miha_xxx
miha_xxx
PRO
12 Jan 04:40 #
@g1557380: this, in general, was clear even at the end of last season. The bunkers are very close, they are the same, at the very bottom there is equipment for construction and a secret passage, it remains only to add 1 + 1
m45
m45
18 Jan 22:33 #
@g1557380: Jules had dropped in there once in the previous season, but she hadn't examined anything.
tipaigrok
tipaigrok
04 Feb 16:51 #
@g1557380: Come on) Sherlock detected)
id294751944
id294751944
11 Jan 15:18 #
It also seems to me that the bunkers are interconnected.
id20873592
id20873592
11 Jan 15:53 #
I don't remember exactly, but when Juliet went down the rope in the first season, there was no water up to her waist. We need to review it)
id763260414
id763260414
11 Jan 16:22 #
@id20873592: it wasn't, I support it
Norax
Norax
11 Jan 20:17 #
@id20873592: She did not reach the rope, because she did not know that there was waist-deep water...She hung on the rope and climbed back up
AlexandrNovikov
AlexandrNovikov
12 Jan 00:55 #
@Norax: But then it's not very clear how she didn't notice the tunnel, it's not hidden there at all and it's big enough, she seemed to be climbing down a rope with a flashlight. I don't remember the exact narration, but she seemed to have learned the information that there was a tunnel there and probably assumed in advance that it was under water.
id763260414
id763260414
12 Jan 02:25 #
@Norax: Ah! I see))
Dark_Alice
Dark_Alice
13 Jan 01:32 #
@AlexandrNovikov: in theory, it should be black and black. It's actually a cave. They made it light purely for the audience. The light sources are point-based, in the form of dim technical lamps.
ValeryOlivers
ValeryOlivers
11 Jan 18:32 #
The group of survivors are kind of nervous, infuriating.
ValeryOlivers
ValeryOlivers
11 Jan 18:32 #
Juliet's universal adoration of "oh my God, she's so amazing" is infuriating, why is she idolized? She caused trouble and left
Katrin_90
Katrin_90
11 Jan 19:19 #
To be honest, I didn't like the way the survivors were introduced in the series at all. Anyone who has read the book will understand. I was terribly annoyed by this madam with a bow. There is one episode left until the end of the season. It's strange that they're dragging on with the uprising.
Paramelion
Paramelion
11 Jan 21:32 #
@Katrin_90: Thanks for the spoilers
Katrin_90
Katrin_90
16 Jan 11:46 #
@Paramelion: Where's the spoiler here? It's not written that differs from the book. Learn to distinguish spoilers first.
Paramelion
Paramelion
16 Jan 12:13 #
@Katrin_90: Are they dragging their feet on the uprising? Is this not a spoiler? This literally means that the uprising will take place.
Katrin_90
Katrin_90
16 Jan 13:48 #
@Paramelion: but is it not clear even without books?) Well, they really just barricaded themselves in there, out of idleness. And what do you think Bernard is trying to prevent? Not an uprising?
Paramelion
Paramelion
16 Jan 14:16 #
@Katrin_90: That was one of the intrigues, which one would take Bernard, Sims or the rebellion. And now, in fact, there is no intrigue left.
konerini
konerini
22 Jan 07:15 #
@Katrin_90: да! да! да!
SerVer
SerVer
11 Jan 20:29 #
I can imagine everyone's faces if Juliet puts on a costume and wipes the camera in her hideout))
Liyuuuuunder
Liyuuuuunder
11 Jan 20:43 #
@SerVer: I guess that's exactly how the second season ends. Like the first one, she went over the horizon, and the second one, she came back😂
Danusha0803
Danusha0803
13 Jan 12:16 #
@Liyuuuuunder: before watching season 2, I was sure that she would return through an underground tunnel and like "sunrise, sunrise))) (I haven't read a book)
Mаруся
Mаруся
11 Jan 21:04 #
Well, finally, we've moved a little bit in the plot, Hallelujah or Juliet - you're beautiful
a1397071
a1397071
11 Jan 22:45 #
@hotdog666: Man, you're dumb
hotdog666
hotdog666
12 Jan 18:53 #
@a1397071: like without looking
Killua
Killua
11 Jan 23:18 #
Most likely, in the end it's not AI, perhaps there is a bunker of managers like in fallout
iken
iken
12 Jan 05:07 #
@Killua: The more the plot is revealed, the more the spirit of the fallout is felt.
Meloman_Nastena
Meloman_Nastena
12 Jan 00:32 #
Chet even cried for a moment with Jules, Aborigines and Solo
krook
krook
12 Jan 00:39 #
Ahhh! Can I wait for the next episode?
This is zhiir!
AlexandrNovikov
AlexandrNovikov
12 Jan 01:13 #
I haven't read the book, there are no spoilers in the comments. I can hardly imagine the real purpose of the secret tunnel. Technologically, judging by the drilling rig, the bunker was dug from top to bottom, structurally we have management sectors at the top, food supply in the middle, energy supply at the bottom, and for something a side tunnel is being built at the very bottom, as if the only idea that comes to mind is to connect the bunkers to each other through some central one that it connects them together and apparently this access is under some kind of protection, but then there are only questions. And then there are the constant hints of Bunker 51. There are 50 typical bunkers located next to each other and some kind of incomprehensible 51st. I assume that 50 bins are located relative to each other along a circle and there is a 51st between them in the center, and in order to access it, you need the bunker to fulfill some conditions. I'm launching a theory that all 50 bunkers are somehow competing without knowing it and should transform into some kind of perfect society, after which they will have access to the center, and there will be some kind of rocket and they will fly to colonize another planet, this planet seems to be Khan. But really, then why is this stage of the selection preliminary... like to be sure that humanity will not repeat a nuclear war on a new planet, being a cohesive society that won the inter-class war, these are the thoughts
Doctor_13
Doctor_13
12 Jan 01:28 #
@AlexandrNovikov: The thought of some kind of social experiment was also creeping in. But the theory about building an ideal society is questionable, since initially everyone was given a clear list of rules. And the class war can only end with either victory or the death of civilization.
miha_xxx
miha_xxx
PRO
12 Jan 04:48 #
@AlexandrNovikov: According to the series, the structure is definitely not radial, rather something in the form of honeycombs with some randomness.
AlexandrNovikov
AlexandrNovikov
12 Jan 11:43 #
@miha_xxx: You're right, I missed this frame altogether.
6o4ka
6o4ka
PRO
13 Jan 11:18 #
@miha_xxx: SNT & # 34; bunker & # 34; 🤣
egri4
egri4
12 Jan 08:06 #
@AlexandrNovikov: maybe to find a bunker with a gene of submissive slaves developed over 500 years, and then the elites and VIPs from 51st will take them away as servants)
Or, indeed, so that the next population of the earth would not be belligerent.
I hope we'll find out in 6 days.
Kentavr
Kentavr
13 Jan 06:19 #
@egri4: No, it's a little early for such knowledge, it's necessary to devote a separate season to this. The final one, probably even.
Doctor_13
Doctor_13
12 Jan 01:26 #
Oh, some events have started to unfold. This security protocol and tunnel are mysterious, and the water is knee-deep. 😂
Wildly cured by a hysterical archer
ЖанЛюкВеган
ЖанЛюкВеган
12 Jan 04:19 #
Okay. I give up. I don't give a shit about this snot. It's beautiful, of course, but I want to know more and faster. I've downloaded a bunch of Howie's books and short stories, and I need to know in what order to read them all. I swam among all the names. And which ones generally relate to Silo. A total of 9 Filibuster stories. Tell me the order.
MeMori
MeMori
12 Jan 06:36 #
@JanLukVegan: There are 3 books there:
1. Wool;
2. Shift;
3. Dust.

There are more stories that come at the end after the books:
— In the air
— In the mountain
— In the woods
ЖанЛюкВеган
ЖанЛюкВеган
12 Jan 06:42 #
@MeMori: thank you very much 👍
JardimFramboesa
JardimFramboesa
17 Jan 23:54 #
@MeMori: Can you tell me if these stories are in the old edition? There don't seem to be any in the new one
MeMori
MeMori
18 Jan 11:54 #
@JardimFramboesa: I have these three stories in an English-language edition, where in 1 book all 3 parts go at once + 3 stories at the end.
JardimFramboesa
JardimFramboesa
22 Jan 01:50 #
@MeMori: thank you, I'll search!
maryjanejkk
maryjanejkk
15 Jan 12:14 #
@Zhanlyukvegan: does flibusta still work? Oo
JardimFramboesa
JardimFramboesa
17 Jan 23:54 #
@maryjanejkk: flibusta works with VPN
MeMori
MeMori
18 Jan 11:56 #
@maryjanejkk: it works through the Tor. The creator of the filibuster recently passed away and managed to transfer the filibuster to another person before his death.
MeMori
MeMori
12 Jan 06:38 #
The end of the nifiga is incomprehensible.
Pranker
Pranker
12 Jan 06:44 #
A good episode opened my eyes to the situation of why Judge Mary Meadows was so eager to leave the bunker.
kotenokgaff
kotenokgaff
16 Jan 12:27 #
@Pranker: I just didn't understand where she was rushing to, knowing that there are a lot of similar bunkers, and there is poisonous air and radiation on the surface.
Pranker
Pranker
16 Jan 16:57 #
@kotenokgaff: A dinner of silence was imposed on her. She no longer had the strength to keep everything to herself, which was why she couldn't dry out, and if she had let it slip, the entire bunker of 10,000 people would have been destroyed. Judge Meadows didn't care what was waiting for her outside, as long as it wasn't here.
Kaifatishko
Kaifatishko
12 Jan 06:45 #
Finally, the plot has moved on. In fact, we could have seen these events already in the third series if Apple had a goal to tell an interesting story, and not to collect subscription money from the Goyim.
id972349034
id972349034
13 Jan 05:29 #
@Kaifatishko: I totally agree. It's just a pity that I have a Zetflix subscription.
DaryaSavelyeva
DaryaSavelyeva
12 Jan 10:58 #
The end of this episode is gorgeous, again a new mystery and something interesting.
pomidorchik28
pomidorchik28
12 Jan 14:09 #
Another unrealistic point, by the way, is that since there is a baby there, he would periodically scream anyway, so that he would be heard even in remote parts of the shelter and Jules would quickly realize that someone else was living in the bunker.
Kentavr
Kentavr
13 Jan 06:25 #
@pomidorchik28: Would you hear a screaming baby from the first floor, living on the 20th floor? And there are more than a hundred of them and they are about as high as 3-4 of our floors in theory, although about a third is flooded, but the area is huge. Plus, they're also cheating, making noise.
pomidorchik28
pomidorchik28
13 Jan 08:43 #
@Kentavr: it seems to me that they did not live at a great distance from the server room. And there would be an echo from the cry of the child. Have you ever been present at a child's tantrum?
Kentavr
Kentavr
13 Jan 11:55 #
@pomidorchik28: I work at a children's hospital. And if a child is yelling nonsense and sirens in the emergency room, but the door is closed, nothing can be heard 10-20 meters away. The bunker is still a bunker, people lived there and didn't suffer much because of the acoustics, otherwise there would have been a moratorium on talking outdoors.
pomidorchik28
pomidorchik28
12 Jan 14:10 #
Plus, when Solo turned on the music so that Jules could hear it and come to him, these guys who live in the bunker would have heard it too. In other words, they knew what music was.
Kentavr
Kentavr
13 Jan 06:30 #
@pomidorchik28: Well, first of all, if I ask you if you know what the Doppler effect is, for example, chances are that you'll just shrug your shoulders, even though you've seen it a hundred times. And secondly, there's a pretty massive door in the server room, and even though we were shown how they communicate through it, it will still muffle sounds.
Zelinski
Zelinski
PRO
12 Jan 17:16 #
Finally, they told the story of Solo (although in general it was quite predictable, I immediately guessed that he was someone's son from IT). And finally, this mysterious tunnel and door were shown. The story of Judge Meadows and why she wanted to get out became a little clearer.

I just didn't quite understand one thing. Jules also went down to the bottom in search of a tunnel, and if my memory serves me correctly, then everything was flooded. And now Lucas is standing quietly in knee-deep water. Wtf.

Anyway, hooray, at least some progress in the plot! The line of rebellion, of course, continues to be as boring as possible. But thanks for giving me a lot of Juliet. Now we are waiting for her to return to her native bunker.
DeadDanny
DeadDanny
12 Jan 17:27 #
Finally, a normal and interesting episode with Jules! It is a pity that she is not the second, but the ninth.

P.S. The girl with the bow infuriated the whole series. She's really some kind of maniacilla. She doesn't care about common sense at all, all she can think about is kill, kill, kill. If I were her boyfriend, I'd stay away from her.
EbakaWin
EbakaWin
12 Jan 17:29 #
A crooked-nosed Algerian will enter Solych's bunker through the back passage and make a fuss there..
nikatoten
nikatoten
12 Jan 21:21 #
@EbakaWin: I'm yelling at you, even though it's a sin :D
id972349034
id972349034
13 Jan 05:36 #
@EbakaWin: by the way, I didn't see in the comments to the series (maybe, of course, I missed it) that anyone was wondering why in an isolated society for 250-350 years (10-15 generations), it seems like in the absence of racial segregation or racism in general, there are still clearly Caucasians, Negroes, Mongoloids, etc.
that for the "mixed" population of the bunker, it would be necessary to select the appropriate actors/ extras, but nevertheless this is another one in the series, which is not explained in any way.
EbakaWin
EbakaWin
13 Jan 14:40 #
@id972349034: 250-350 years old? It's literally nothing to mix a bulldog with a rhinoceros.. I'm not even talking about the fact that the tanned sheriff's gene will be stronger than that of his scary vifa.. Have you seen their baby, stolet?
JardimFramboesa
JardimFramboesa
13 Jan 17:22 #
@id972349034: most likely, there is regulation. After all, they regulate the birth rate as a whole and decide which couple can give birth and which one can not, for sure this is taken into account.
id972349034
id972349034
13 Jan 17:27 #
@EbakaWin: so in your opinion, people of different races differ as different species, for example, a bulldog with a rhinoceros? Different species, by the way, cannot have fertile offspring.
EbakaWin
EbakaWin
13 Jan 17:37 #
@id972349034: Liger, bifalo, mule, kama, etc. give you their nihao..
Wake up already- you're fucked..
id972349034
id972349034
13 Jan 18:11 #
@EbakaWin: and which of the listed (or any other) hybrids are not sterile?
And can you understand the meaning of the statement "different species cannot have fertile offspring"?
EbakaWin
EbakaWin
13 Jan 18:28 #
@id972349034: Different species can have fertile offspring, but if you cross them, they don't. And males are usually sterile..
Have you decided to remember biology? So ask your teacher tomorrow, madam..
id972349034
id972349034
13 Jan 18:46 #
@EbakaWin: A fertile offspring is an offspring capable of leaving its offspring.
So if the males of hybrid species X are sterile, who will fertilize the females of hybrid species X?
Tell me honestly, is this trolling stupidity?
EbakaWin
EbakaWin
13 Jan 18:53 #
@id972349034: Well, don't cross X with X, but try X with Y, I'll tell you how else to help you with your homework..
id972349034
id972349034
13 Jan 18:59 #
@EbakaWin: better help yourself to get back to /b dvacha.
EbakaWin
EbakaWin
13 Jan 19:10 #
@id972349034: /b in the heart, and you don't get excited about the Algerians anymore and think about something else..
EbakaWin
EbakaWin
14 Jan 16:13 #
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Vilgelmster
Vilgelmster
15 Jan 01:28 #
@id972349034: Well, oysters can give offspring.
Hidji
Hidji
15 Jan 01:54 #
@Vilgelmster: A species is considered unviable if it cannot reproduce itself in a closed system. And if you add another species to it, then this is automatic degeneration after a couple of generations, when complete assimilation has already occurred. And again there will be separate lions and tigers. Humans have a completely different scheme, when mixed, stable hybrids are obtained, in this case in the form of mulattoes. In fact, after ten to fifteen generations, the entire population of the bunker should look the same if there is no strict control over the birth of children in certain couples. And he's here, by the way. So the argument is generally meaningless).
oasumii
oasumii
12 Jan 18:26 #
Sooo interesting and intriguing!!
Olia_S
Olia_S
12 Jan 20:13 #
The series is interesting) A lot of things have become clear. Solo's story is straight to the heart, I feel sorry for him, of course. For some reason, it seems to me that Lucas will open that door and find the entrance/ exit to bunker 17. I haven't read the books, if anything))
g1582320
g1582320
12 Jan 20:37 #
@Olia_S: Everything is flooded there.
lenk_Di
lenk_Di
PRO
13 Jan 01:14 #
@g1582320: There Jules has already fixed the pump)
krook
krook
12 Jan 23:40 #
Did you notice how the Hindu turned on the flashlight on his head, jumped into the water, and the flashlight was no longer there? And he takes another one out of his pocket and turns it on.
lenk_Di
lenk_Di
PRO
13 Jan 01:17 #
@krook: yes, I was struck by this moment, I don't throw flashlights around in the real world, but here in conditions of limited resources)
6o4ka
6o4ka
PRO
13 Jan 11:14 #
@krook: alternatively, maybe the flashlight sank, and he stepped on it with his feet at the bottom and broke it)
Максим_Кравченко
Максим_Кравченко
13 Jan 00:02 #
I really liked the episode, I really want to hear the spoiler. I read all the comments :D The next series would have been released faster. But I understand that there probably won't be many answers, as a seed for the next season. I also hated the woman with the bow, I wanted to punch her. Well, if there are 2 sets of spacesuits, they will go to 2 in the last bunker.
lenk_Di
lenk_Di
PRO
13 Jan 01:19 #
@Maksim_kravchenko: I think so too, we will soon find out who she will take with her - Elena or Solo
id763260414
id763260414
17 Jan 01:55 #
@lenk_Di: Solo will most likely refuse.
nyam0
nyam0
13 Jan 01:30 #
@Maksim_kravchenko: Jules will probably take the girl who is being abused by the survivors in the new bunker with him and arrange a vacation for his old cellmates.
DFG39
DFG39
16 Jan 23:03 #
@Maksim_kravchenko: spoiler alert: & # 34; here's a twist" will be in the last 10 seconds of the last episode of the season, don't miss it.
Максим_Кравченко
Максим_Кравченко
17 Jan 07:00 #
@Maksim_kravchenko: in general, I couldn't resist, I talked to chatgpt and he answered all my questions from the books, it became clear about the world of the bunker, I calmed down :)
stars33
stars33
13 Jan 01:55 #
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ДмитрийВальчук
ДмитрийВальчук
13 Jan 02:47 #
Will there be a third season?
6o4ka
6o4ka
PRO
13 Jan 11:13 #
@DmitriyValchuk: it will be, and 4 too
Ytzin
Ytzin
13 Jan 06:04 #
It's a great episode, but this archer, of course, well, that's it. Steal, kill, kidnap, everything will work out for you.
id972349034
id972349034
13 Jan 17:31 #
@Ytzin: so this is a character intentionally added as an irritant in order to evoke the maximum range and contrast of emotions in the viewer, this is the canon of the pop industry. You have 5,000 watched episodes in your profile, and you still haven't seen it?
Ytzin
Ytzin
13 Jan 22:45 #
@id972349034: Yes, you have opened my eyes, dear father, thank you and bow to the floor.
All these TV shows (these in the sense of such, and not at all) actually accustomed me to the inflation of actions. A character can save a character, and after five minutes they will have a deadly quarrel from scratch, on the other hand, a character can try to kill a character, and after five minutes they will eat ice cream together.
But here it's a little different, the character attacks gg and no matter how bad he is, but a sudden twist - the character needs to feed the baby, which means he's not bad, which means you have to forget that he just tried to kill gg. An amazing twist!
I hope it's so long and tedious that it will be more accessible to you than the same thing written briefly, you're welcome.
EbakaWin
EbakaWin
14 Jan 16:26 #
@Ytzin: The skirt robe may be caricatured, and the actions of such characters look illogical, but.. According to lore, we'll put it down to the fact that our young survivalists grew up in each other's company, and all they learned to do was make onions out of shit and sticks, and put pussy in each other's pussy. So, what should I take from them?
Ytzin
Ytzin
14 Jan 17:35 #
@EbakaWin: Yes, g-d is with her with logic. Just put yourself in Juliet's shoes: they tried to kill you three times, inflicted severe injuries and a coffin disease. How would you react in such a situation?
EbakaWin
EbakaWin
14 Jan 17:39 #
@Ytzin: Negotiations, obviously)

I was more pleased with how cyborg Solych walked on the second day.. After an arrow in the spine, stained with shit..
u1568464
u1568464
15 Jan 01:09 #
@EbakaWin: I don't understand, why do they even have onions there? You can also learn to shoot at anyone if they only have your own people there....
Kentavr
Kentavr
13 Jan 06:34 #
I was glad that the Solo server room was made clean :D
6o4ka
6o4ka
PRO
13 Jan 11:13 #
The movement started ©
I wonder why Juliet might need a second costume. Should I take Solo with me to my bunker? Or this girl?
And what's with the door at the end with the voice, is there a tunnel at all - is it a passage to another bunker or somewhere else?
As I understand it, either there is some kind of video surveillance, or the voice is stupid AI, which is unlikely with their technology, although it is possible...

And yes, the depth below used to be such that you could drown, but now it's knee-deep. Did Jules pump out the water here too?
Kentavr
Kentavr
13 Jan 12:02 #
@6o4ka: She didn't dive, did she? I just saw the black expanse of the sea-okiyana. And whistled up.
But you shouldn't be talking about technology, kaneshn. In vain, in vain, in vain. Let's figure out that bunkers are an analogue of Atlantis. And in order to finish off all this for some purpose, it's not a sapper's shovel that's needed here, but the technology of, let's say, the Ancients. Well, then I can't imagine what will happen in the end.
u1568464
u1568464
13 Jan 17:40 #
@6o4ka: The technologies that people use are old, but IT is already another millennium, one tablet is worth a lot... And the years are described not in our time, but far beyond...
Максим_Кравченко
Максим_Кравченко
13 Jan 19:35 #
I didn't hold on! I asked chatgpt for spoilers from the book. At least so calm
tipaigrok
tipaigrok
04 Feb 17:10 #
@Maksim_kravchenko: Yes, we already realized that you know how to use a jeep, why scribble about it all the time)
xden4ik
xden4ik
14 Jan 12:58 #
"Is this the killer? We have to kill him.Dexter's son seems to have left good offspring :))
g1583310
g1583310
14 Jan 13:39 #
The most important question of this series for me is how did Judge Meadows, with her obviously athletic figure, descend to the tunnel on a tightrope and climb back up? Let's say she did it in her youth, but I doubt very much that she, a representative of the upper floors, has as much strength and endurance as mechanics. When Jules came down, it was obvious how much effort it cost her, and she's powerful.
kotenokgaff
kotenokgaff
16 Jan 12:35 #
@g1583310: she is probably smarter and could make a loop in which she descended, for example)
Stalker_inc
Stalker_inc
14 Jan 17:31 #
A normal season is only the ninth episode, and the movement has already begun. 👍
vseslav
vseslav
PRO
14 Jan 21:48 #
Great, the development of events and new puzzles have begun by the end of the season)
Viktor_cska
Viktor_cska
15 Jan 22:14 #
An interesting series for events , why couldn 't it have been narrated in the same spirit before
Tunnels between bunkers are very large. The third season promises to be interesting.
DFG39
DFG39
16 Jan 23:01 #
The author of the books really went wrong with the mines, and the screenwriters followed him. Well, what kind of mines, what to mine there, the land. The lower floors would have looked much more realistic, where they processed waste at the very bottom, then a drilling rig, then a distillation plant, and only then a generator room, supply,
etc. That is, they violated the law either in the most difficult working conditions or on their way out.

"Running for cover" is also too much, i.e. these are not bookish 2 teenagers, 3 children and a baby who are hiding in farms on the 120th floor, surviving in semi-darkness, in rags. Why, it's better to let them live on the 5th level, they hang a bunch of light bulbs, it's okay, no one will notice.

For those who don't want to read the original source, I feel sorry for you.
The series is three times digested feces compared to the original, you spread it all over and say, "I wonder what's going to happen next."
Hidji
Hidji
16 Jan 23:43 #
@DFG39: Even if level 22 is flooded, it would be quite difficult for them to live at 120 at the moment.😄
DFG39
DFG39
17 Jan 10:50 #
@Hidji: It is good that the author of the book thought through this moment and did not lock HIMSELF in four walls for 34 years and created an understanding of the atmosphere in which children lived, an atmosphere where people in a bunker killed each other for a tomato, where they were taught to hide, and not to hang garlands and point an arrow.
SergeyKaravay
SergeyKaravay
17 Jan 23:36 #
We're sitting underground without food, but let's have children! It's more fun with them.
Enchantresss
Enchantresss
PRO
18 Jan 02:34 #
I really liked that moment between Jules and Solo, it's so cute. 🥺
Anyway, it's very interesting to watch the development of their relationship from episode to episode.
ДмитрийВальчук
ДмитрийВальчук
19 Jan 04:01 #
At the end of the tenth episode, I still didn't understand what it was! They showed a normal civilisation where a man met a woman in a bar.What was that all about? What's the point of this moment?
SergeiH
SergeiH
19 Jan 16:58 #
- The founders built 50 bunkers.
- Technically 51.
Interesting numbers, it looks like the United States: 50 states, but technically 51, since the District of Columbia and Washington are on their own, technically the 51st state. The Founding Fathers, again
konerini
konerini
22 Jan 07:16 #
How infuriated was the arch with the survivors
rueful_dream
rueful_dream
24 Jan 12:41 #
The best episode of the season so far
id755353277
id755353277
24 Jan 13:15 #
You're such a nasty girl with arrows that I'll kill you right away, you idiot. And you're in a bunker with no food, everyone is dead, the bunker is destroyed, but let's fix the kids, hooray, that's a cool plan.
Hidji
Hidji
24 Jan 18:00 #
@id755353277: many people say that about children). On the other hand, who taught children about safe sex? Think about this moment.
id755353277
id755353277
24 Jan 20:07 #
@Hidji: true, but you already have a child and you saw how difficult it was to grow up, but no, you decided to make another one, I just don't understand why, because there's nothing nearby.
Hidji
Hidji
24 Jan 21:09 #
@id755353277: maybe you can give up sex for life, but they couldn't))).
Rewerlin
Rewerlin
25 Jan 00:40 #
Can someone explain the family ties of those three and the two children from the second bunker?
Nikolaha
Nikolaha
26 Jan 16:03 #
The most interesting episode of the season. Each main character of the series has formed active and ambitious goals. It's interesting to watch. It turns out that the former chief cop was faced with an ultimatum, either outside, or something else that would also be offered to the Indian. What will it be?
galaktozar
galaktozar
03 Feb 18:54 #
Red-haired Audrey looks like her parents are relatives...
meridiaan
meridiaan
PRO
07 Feb 13:11 #
It's a very touching Solo story, actually. I felt very sorry for him. And a woman with a bow is terribly annoying.
_CHASER_
_CHASER_
PRO
11 Feb 18:24 #
Finally, we found a tunnel, most likely it connects other bunkers.
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