So, Solo killed the real Solo and his girlfriend to get into this vault? And those two corpses, which Juliet said in the first episodes that they are fresher than the others, are most likely Trina and Solo ..? And by the way, when Lucas explained to Bernard there was something about the disc - nothing is clear, but very interesting :D All these diagrams, drawings.. Also, some Salvador Quinn was mentioned, who is this? I should have started watching when the full season would have been released, otherwise it would be hard to watch one episode a week
@wrshpnw: the tunnel diagrams at the lower levels were shown to us last season, but at the IT level, this means backup communications are suitable, as solo said. And probably there's more than just electricity
@wrshpnw: Regarding Salvador Quinn: I have not read the original work, but based on what we were shown in previous episodes, I can assume that Salvador Quinn was a participant in the last uprising, most likely on the part of the mechanics, since his name was written on that wall with many other old names. Well, the fact that he encrypted the message for his beloved most likely confirms my guess that he was a member, and maybe the head of the uprising\_(ツ)_/
@graandmaster: I've read the whole series of books and I don't remember that name. And there was no disk in the books. Solo, according to the books, was indeed a child when the uprising took place. His father was supposed to be a student of the leader of the bunker (students were chosen to replace them) and during the uprising ordered Solo to stay in a secret room behind the door. His parents were shot when the rebels tried to get into the bunker. In that secret room there was a video room with cameras all over the bunker, as well as books that contained a lot of real information about his former life, and a server that was used to communicate with bunker 1 - the main bunker in the series of books.
@wrshpnw: in general, of course, it is an ingenious plan to trigger a mentally ill person who is the only one who can help you with questions that it is not so important to know the answers to
It's funny how his wife destroyed Sims' career.💀I wonder what his reaction will be when Sims finds out that she let the mechanics go. In the first season, Juliet was also released. At least now there is a complete impression that everything is going to burst into hiding. Bernard has only a new lawman, a devotee. In general, Josh was resuscitated well.
@iken: Yes, but for some reason I did it personally so that Bernard would clearly find out about it. As if she wants Sims to stand up for her and "demolish" Bernard, taking his place, as hinted in the first season. Moreover, this detention plan was originally for Sims, as the new lawyer said.
I liked how Sims was let in, it was just obvious how he didn't have a bomb. and there's nothing to be henpecked like that, because everything was fine with him until his wife started egging him on. and since electricity goes into the bunker also according to a backup scheme, perhaps all these mechanics with their generators are just for show, so that people have something to occupy them and so that there is someone to sag the crowd on, if anything.
@iken: he was transferred from an asset to a liability🫡 In the series, they said that everyone should be busy and thought that they were ensuring the survival of the shelter with their work. Without work, what should they do - how not to organize riots🤷🏽♂️ I wonder what Bernard thought about these tunnels and what the message of the head of IT was encrypted in the past
@g1563507: Judging by the variety of responses, all the misfortunes of the world have happened to this hand. I can't remember how she damaged it, but it looks like it was complicated by a bacterial infection. She could use a course of antibiotics.
@nonaems: It's generally interesting with the hand. A man, and even a woman who works in a mechanical one, where wounds with infection can be picked up at every step. Where a broken key, saw, file, etc. can generally leave you without a part of a limb. Surprise, she does not know about the basic things regarding wound treatment, it is clear that she does not have any antiseptics, green paint, etc. But try to wrap up with a rag that she picked up from the floor and fumble like that? What is the calculation for? She is there in search of rooms climbing, and that she did not think of at least where to look for a first-aid kit, rinse the wound with clean and / or at least boiled water (no fire, make a boiler, electricity, that is) and apply clean bandages or a bed sheet from the closet ... In short, a solid hand face.....
@Sasha_hey: I agree, it was necessary to concentrate the plot in the new silo, and go through the old one at the top. I don't remember the book well, but it felt like there was a lot of interesting stuff in the new shelter, some kind of surviving children, but not a single word about them
@bulidze: if they plan to keep talking shit, then it's better to close it and not embarrass themselves. You have to be able to create such a shameful season with a gorgeous primary source.
I read the book and now I can say that the series is worse. I don't like who did the Solo in the series, but clearly following the book plot would definitely be uninteresting.
@Lenchikoo: in short, Solo's father became the deputy of IT and left his small son in this "safe", and he went after his wife, but the rebels demonstratively killed him so that Solo would open the door
@AsioOtus: the first season was quite decent, without it there was hardly such interest in the series. The second book is also weaker than the first. The end of the 2nd can be safely skipped by half
I hope the stupid people don't interrupt each other. Ah, how charmingly it shows how propaganda works. The dog-headed people are mechanics again. Meanwhile, I wish the mayor, Sims, his wife and the new pretentious bearded boy to eat each other. Of the whole bunch, only the wife has at least some charisma.
This series is a little more lively than the previous ones. So far, I don't really like season 2, it doesn't tighten up like the first one. Somehow everything was shrouded in mystery and this music is incredible.... And the 2nd is in fragments and nothing is clear. We also have to wait a week. I tried to read a book, but for some reason it didn't work.
The most boring part of the book was stretched over half a season. It is comforting that there has been (so far) no radical idiocy, as in Peripheral devices killed by the motherfucker. The Sims line was redone well.
Most likely, the scenes in the original and abandoned shelter were shot by 2 different directors. If the showdowns of homeless people and LGBT grannies can be safely watched in the background while reading the news in the cart, then the adventures of Juliet and Solo are still intriguing. I hope that the series will be revealed further, as they say.
@msev: It's too far-fetched about LGBT grannies. There was no such line between them before. Rather, it's just an unexpected outburst from people who realize that they are seeing each other for the last time. In the USSR, the leaders kissed openly, and here personal relationships in a fictional closed world. I don't see anything condemnable.
@D333: Haven't you listened to their dialogues at all this season? They lament every episode that they broke up 25 years ago, when Walker closed herself in her workshop and stopped going out, but now they really regret it. I don't know what place to watch this season, so as not to understand that the grannies had a long-standing and unhappy love. 🤷🏻♂️
@flaxman: Yeah, moreover, even in the first season, Walker had a photo with a girl. At first I thought there was a judge there, but it turned out to be a lady from the supply chain.
@D333: It's only at the end of episode 7 of this season that it's hinted a little bit that they divorced 25 years ago. No one condemns LGBT grannies, I'm just stating an indisputable fact.
But one thing is clear, that the sheriff and his assistant are no longer on the mayor's side, the wife of the new judge is also a mystery woman, she either wants to protect her husband, or resists the general rebellion ... something tells me that the measure is overthrown one way or another🤔
And also.. is Solo lying to Juliet?! And this is an incomprehensible injury for Jules, I can't understand and remember where she came from🤔
@dimalu: this is due to the fact that the first salvo was watched. Then, too, everyone was whining that it was boring, protracted, impossible to watch and only the first and last episodes were interesting)
The second season is purely passing. Actually, it was because of the trailer for the second season that I didn't want to watch the series. But I watched the first season excitedly, and the second one is marking time. And actually, the strangest thing is why they provoke this riot at all, if the head of it turns out to know about other bunkers and how it all ended there lol.
@Kommunistrus: It seems to me that the head of IT is still trying to extinguish the rebellion. But it doesn't work out very well. And about what he knows about other bunkers - it was shown last season. There was a bunker number somewhere on the keychain.
I read the books after the release of 2 episodes of the second season because the series is once a week, and it was painfully interesting what would happen next. I will say that it is much more interesting to watch this way.
Judging by Jules' blackout in the finale and the growing tension with Saul, the latter will do something with the helmet. And since the underwater tunnels have surfaced again, will she have to move back through them? By pumping out the water, for example, which was also mentioned. Well, the question is, where is electricity generated for IT? I haven't read any books, if anything, just guesses. It's just a pity that at this rate, Jules is likely to return to his bunker by the end of the season.
Somehow the season is developing poorly, and already half has passed, by the way. I miss the days when the seasons were 20+ episodes. They also dragged it out to the last, but there was somehow more immersion in the plot and characters. It feels like Jules is shown purely for show every episode so that we don't forget what the main character looks like. The season is still cool, but it's impossible to get rid of the feeling that I expected more, but it turned out as always
@arthur_korolyov: I miss the days when the seasons were 20+ episodes. They also dragged it out to the last, but there was somehow more immersion in the plot and characters.
Oh, yeah! Now I'm reviewing the Edge - 22 episodes per season, but they look in the same breath! however, I remember the same way everyone was whining about the monsters of the week and the fact that the main plot does not move) but remove the monsters of the week, the main plot will remain for ten episodes just) so, I think it's still not the number of episodes, but the talent of the writers / directors)
A very dynamic series compared to others. Quite a lot of events took place in both arches. About the injury, Jules initially thought that it was one of the viruses from the outside that got under the suit and corroded his arm, but in the comments he saw that it was an old injury. The first version would be better. I was amused how those two jumped from such a height and didn't break their spine. Well, all right, so be it. Of course, the helmet is a normal piano in the bushes. I found myself by myself) However, I still did not understand where to do the dark girl from the gang of "murderers " judges. She decided to be the bait, but missed what happened to her. Write to anyone who knows.
Well, I hope that everyone will still solve the mystery of the hatch found underwater by Juliet in the first episodes of last season. And besides, did no one really wonder where the water that flooded half of the bunker came from at all, the fresh corpses found by Juliet do not give rest. I think Solo is not alone in the bunker, there is someone else, Solo looks too suspiciously like he is hiding something, I really didn't like his reaction in the last episode, how nervous he was when he pumped Juliet's air, and when he quickly closed himself in. I don't like this behavior of his, everything is too suspicious with him. Juliet got into the campaign, didn't she notice that the bunker is gloomy and scary, and along the way it also has secrets. I don't know about the rest of the audience, but this bunker gives me the creeps, I'm really starting to worry about Juliet. She should get out of here as soon as possible. The season is really interesting.
@g1557380: well, if we do not consider the conspiracy theory that there are some special floodgates in case of uprisings, then for such a huge depth and ancient age bunker, groundwater is quite a real threat to itself
I don't know, she'd better find a diver's suit. Examine the bottom of the bunker, for sure there is something there, perhaps a way out of it, or maybe the cause of flooding, the water somehow appeared. In a good way, she needs to get out of the bunker as quickly as possible
@g1557380: It's hardly a good idea. Firstly, it is very deep there now, it is necessary to gradually reduce the depth, repairing the systems in turn, which is a large and long operation Secondly, as far as I remember, they do not have direct divers, so there is nowhere to take such a suit, and it is more difficult to make it than a street one, because the pressure at depth is high
@g1557380: I'm sorry, but how do you imagine this? She was diving at 22. How to dive 150 floors, many hundreds of meters deep? This PPC is difficult, time-consuming, long and requires the coolest special equipment. And when climbing every 20-30 meters, you will need to stop for half an hour so that the nitrogen in the blood does not boil. You have a fantasy, of course))).
Это сериал ставит меня в неловкое положение, ведь после первого сезона я посоветовал его куче народу, а во втором сезоне почти ничего не происходит. Он настолько затянут, что все уже забыли, когда Джулс поранила руку. Главной фишкой сериала была интрига, нам понемногу раскрывали множество секретов, поэтому было очень интересно. Во втором сезоне вообще ничего не раскрывают, все просто копошатся на месте и меняют должности.
Мне казалось, что после прошлой серии Джульетте уже ничего не мешает надеть костюм и вернуться в своё убежище в этой серии. Но, учитывая, что ей уделяют по 5 минут, такими темпами она вернется в конце сезона, а потом нам опять придется ждать следующий сезон, чтобы узнать, что было дальше.
@raziel2011: How did you ruin that? By saying that she would return to her old hideout? Did anyone doubt that? Or did he spoil it by saying that there would be 5 more episodes to delay her return? Well, this is such a spoiler))
I can't understand it and I don't want to. Why doesn't Juliet take care of herself in a situation like this? You're alone. There's no one to help you. Sometimes metal beats with elbows and brushes, then ignores well-being. Well, there is an opportunity to think at least 1 step ahead, I'm not talking about two.
I forgot so much about the wound on my arm that I started to think that the series had come up with the idea that Solo (or "Solo"?) He's poisoning Juliet. I don't buy the Solo line in the series at all, to be honest.
@naravi: That's not the point. They've obviously decided to bring something new with this "Solo - not Solo" and it's very confusing, besides you don't understand what's going on and why. But Rebecca would definitely like more, yes.
@Kentavr: I read the book a hell of a long time ago, but I don't remember from it that Solo was a bastard and a blackmailer. So yes, it's very confusing.
@Kentavr: You don't buy it back, because there's really no information about him in the series. A lot of time is devoted to his lines in the book. Especially the moment of the uprising in his bunker, and then his life before the arrival of Juliet. And it was very interesting to read about him there.
I can't understand why I keep watching. It seems that there are interesting moments, I want to return to watching. But in general, the plot and characters are somehow very tedious to reveal. I want to believe that the series will swing again🤞🏻
I thought that after reading the books it became uninteresting to watch, but many people write in the comments that the second season is "not the same anymore." That's why the creators decided to step back from the book plot and make up some nonsense? There is already an interesting plot ready, take it and shoot it. No, damn, I wanted to change everything. It's a pity, it's a pity! The first season was exciting because it was filmed close to the book. And the second one is really boring and incomprehensible, chaotic events of some kind, they didn't make anyone out of Solo at all, but in the book he is a great character who you empathize with... In general, it's sad that such an interesting story was ruined by the screenwriters. Once again, I recommend it to those who have not read the trilogy - read it, it is sooo interesting, do not tear yourself away!
After the long-awaited promotion of the Commons, I already thought that he would not dress like a scourge, but no - he seemed to have grown into his rags in a season and a half..
В твиттер-аккаунте Apple TV только что опубликовали короткий видеоролик о продлении "Укрытия" сразу на 2 сезона – 3-й и 4-й. Вспоминая мем "Боже мой, Ребекка Фергюсон", придется терпеть и смотреть. 😅
The branch in the bunker is not at all interesting so far, I remember only the jump down and how Sims' wife planted it on the new chief of security. And with Juliet, where everything is interesting, almost nothing is shown:(Solo is a madman who stole a person (and a life?) a real Solo. From the fact that he behaves crazily and unpredictably and holds all the interest, and of course it turned out funny with the helmet
The heads of IT and the mayors have normal suits, so maybe there's one in the bunker Solo? It would be very convenient to offer him in exchange for help with the pumps.
Sims the whole series looks like he runs into Barber every morning before work. And it's impossible to look at this leather jacket anymore. Does it also say in the book that he wears it without taking it off? His image is very out of line with the style of the series, it seems to me
Most of all, I liked how they flew such a height on a winch and did not break the ridges.. I thought they would descend smoothly without violating the laws of physics. But then they finished it off with a canonical shot, tearing a metal cable and accurately throwing the box several levels. It is difficult to imagine what to expect in the next 2.5 seasons.
But I wonder if they have mines, where did they send that unfortunate stargazer, I wonder where they are digging? After all, other bunkers also mine something in the mines, and they are not so far from each other, so everyone also has a prescription for where to dig so as not to meet by chance...
I don't understand why Jules went Solo. Well, let's say he cheated, so what? Her task is to get out and fall down as quickly as possible and never see him again. And she started trying to figure out who you are, why aren't you in the photo?
@vkglen: it seems to me that this is a quick way to show his madness. In the original source, Solo and Juliet spent many weeks together, and there was a mention that his insane outbursts and the emptiness of the bunker made Juliet go a little crazy herself. At the same time, he was infinitely devoted to her. In the series, they invented a reason for his outbursts of anger - his secret, which tormented him for years, as if decades of loneliness weren't enough.
There were a lot of questions about Solo before, but now they have become essential, who are you?
And by the way, when Lucas explained to Bernard there was something about the disc - nothing is clear, but very interesting :D All these diagrams, drawings.. Also, some Salvador Quinn was mentioned, who is this?
I should have started watching when the full season would have been released, otherwise it would be hard to watch one episode a week
Regarding Salvador Quinn: I have not read the original work, but based on what we were shown in previous episodes, I can assume that Salvador Quinn was a participant in the last uprising, most likely on the part of the mechanics, since his name was written on that wall with many other old names.
Well, the fact that he encrypted the message for his beloved most likely confirms my guess that he was a member, and maybe the head of the uprising\_(ツ)_/
At least now there is a complete impression that everything is going to burst into hiding.
Bernard has only a new lawman, a devotee.
In general, Josh was resuscitated well.
Moreover, this detention plan was originally for Sims, as the new lawyer said.
In the series, they said that everyone should be busy and thought that they were ensuring the survival of the shelter with their work.
Without work, what should they do - how not to organize riots🤷🏽♂️
I wonder what Bernard thought about these tunnels and what the message of the head of IT was encrypted in the past
I don't remember either(
Surprise, she does not know about the basic things regarding wound treatment, it is clear that she does not have any antiseptics, green paint, etc.
But try to wrap up with a rag that she picked up from the floor and fumble like that? What is the calculation for?
She is there in search of rooms climbing, and that she did not think of at least where to look for a first-aid kit, rinse the wound with clean and / or at least boiled water (no fire, make a boiler, electricity, that is) and apply clean bandages or a bed sheet from the closet ...
In short, a solid hand face.....
I don't like who did the Solo in the series, but clearly following the book plot would definitely be uninteresting.
The second book is also weaker than the first. The end of the 2nd can be safely skipped by half
I tried to read a book, but for some reason it didn't work.
At first I thought there was a judge there, but it turned out to be a lady from the supply chain.
But one thing is clear, that the sheriff and his assistant are no longer on the mayor's side, the wife of the new judge is also a mystery woman, she either wants to protect her husband, or resists the general rebellion ... something tells me that the measure is overthrown one way or another🤔
And also.. is Solo lying to Juliet?!
And this is an incomprehensible injury for Jules, I can't understand and remember where she came from🤔
It's just a pity that at this rate, Jules is likely to return to his bunker by the end of the season.
It feels like Jules is shown purely for show every episode so that we don't forget what the main character looks like.
The season is still cool, but it's impossible to get rid of the feeling that I expected more, but it turned out as always
I miss the days when the seasons were 20+ episodes. They also dragged it out to the last, but there was somehow more immersion in the plot and characters.
Oh, yeah! Now I'm reviewing the Edge - 22 episodes per season, but they look in the same breath! however, I remember the same way everyone was whining about the monsters of the week and the fact that the main plot does not move) but remove the monsters of the week, the main plot will remain for ten episodes just) so, I think it's still not the number of episodes, but the talent of the writers / directors)
About the injury, Jules initially thought that it was one of the viruses from the outside that got under the suit and corroded his arm, but in the comments he saw that it was an old injury. The first version would be better.
I was amused how those two jumped from such a height and didn't break their spine. Well, all right, so be it.
Of course, the helmet is a normal piano in the bushes. I found myself by myself)
However, I still did not understand where to do the dark girl from the gang of "murderers " judges. She decided to be the bait, but missed what happened to her. Write to anyone who knows.
And besides, did no one really wonder where the water that flooded half of the bunker came from at all, the fresh corpses found by Juliet do not give rest. I think Solo is not alone in the bunker, there is someone else, Solo looks too suspiciously like he is hiding something, I really didn't like his reaction in the last episode, how nervous he was when he pumped Juliet's air, and when he quickly closed himself in. I don't like this behavior of his, everything is too suspicious with him. Juliet got into the campaign, didn't she notice that the bunker is gloomy and scary, and along the way it also has secrets. I don't know about the rest of the audience, but this bunker gives me the creeps, I'm really starting to worry about Juliet. She should get out of here as soon as possible. The season is really interesting.
Firstly, it is very deep there now, it is necessary to gradually reduce the depth, repairing the systems in turn, which is a large and long operation
Secondly, as far as I remember, they do not have direct divers, so there is nowhere to take such a suit, and it is more difficult to make it than a street one, because the pressure at depth is high
Мне казалось, что после прошлой серии Джульетте уже ничего не мешает надеть костюм и вернуться в своё убежище в этой серии. Но, учитывая, что ей уделяют по 5 минут, такими темпами она вернется в конце сезона, а потом нам опять придется ждать следующий сезон, чтобы узнать, что было дальше.
I don't buy the Solo line in the series at all, to be honest.
They've obviously decided to bring something new with this "Solo - not Solo" and it's very confusing, besides you don't understand what's going on and why.
But Rebecca would definitely like more, yes.
Well, that..