A powerful series. It gets creepy from many scenes.
MOPE_AHAHACOB
25 Oct 00:22 # Show original
I thought to victory that they were escalating the situation in the car. but it turned out that they pumped it up to deafeningly surprise. I'm terrified. I'm shocked.
veer
24 Oct 03:04 # Show original
It's a complete alarm, not a series! And I wrote so much that this red-haired search engine is the third asshole! Cyril, did he rape and kill his sister?! And he killed Elvira!
g1520869
24 Oct 03:24 # Show original
@veer: well, it was clear with Kirill after Elvira was killed, and that it wasn't clean with her sister there... but I still didn't expect from the search engine, even though many wrote
veer
24 Oct 03:47 # Show original
@g1520869: Yes, there is no one else for Kira to be a redhead! I thought that if Victor was one of the good ones, he would die. And the next episode will be a repeat take of hell for Sveta, to get out of this house again
MOPE_AHAHACOB
25 Oct 00:24 # Show original
I also didn't understand why he was doing this to his sister. and whose hand. he found her to frame his sister's husband + did not withdraw from the investigation in order to control + he thought out the legend in advance. In short, I'm terrified. I have only hope for Artyom's father and Vitu, since he was suspended and he is aware of things now (although I thought he was in the share and would cock the girl after all the details)
coco_kaka
24 Oct 23:45 # Show original
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Iren09
27 Oct 15:26 # Show original
@coco_kaka: Well, take a pie from the shelf
Vito_185
24 Oct 03:33 # Show original
And yet it's him.
-TraumfraU-
25 Oct 00:02 # Show original
@Vito_185: of course, he. Sveta was 15 years old at the time of the rape, and her rapist was 11. Damn, what a miserable miskast, they showed the rapist's body there, and he was about 37 years old. I am 100% sure that it was the body of the actor who plays Tilya.
MOPE_AHAHACOB
25 Oct 00:25 # Show original
I didn't want to fight to the bitter end, if it weren't for the comments, I would have been upset by this news. it was annoying that he threw off the address and watched + that he took a knife (to defend himself, you think first. and then you realize that this is the same knife). and did he really remember Sveta and refused her sex a long time ago because of this?
veer
25 Oct 00:29 # Show original
@MOPE_AHAHACOB: he could refuse sex for several reasons: he is the type with a good reputation, helps people, which means that as a decent person he will not take advantage of the situation. The second reason is that he likes aggressive sex only with young girls.
Tatul
25 Oct 00:42 # Show original
@MOPE_AHAHACOB: I also wonder at what point he recognized Sveta. But I wouldn't be surprised at all that in the next episode in the basement he will pour out his soul how he liked Sveta and how he wanted a daughter and in general all this time he was watching their lives. Another moment, Kira was taken to the basement to the same fate as the other girls, but it was just a coincidence that she met her father there
SelfishBastard1
25 Oct 10:32 # Show original
at their first dialogue, it immediately seemed to me that they knew each other, I think he remembers everything perfectly. but he refused because he had a scar on his leg
MOPE_AHAHACOB
26 Oct 14:38 # Show original
I thought they knew each other because the city is the same and they are my classmates. She was glad to see him too.…
g1515286
24 Oct 08:06 # Show original
Oh, bingo, I guessed two right away.. I feel sorry for Victor, of course, I thought he would take revenge somehow
Flotus
24 Oct 08:27 # Show original
If you watch the promo of the next episode, then he is alive along the way
Vito_185
24 Oct 11:00 # Show original
@Flotus: No, Victor is clearly done, unless he is Jesus, of course. As I understand it, you are talking about the moment when some man exchanges fire with Thiel, 99% is the elder Vinichenko. This guy can have a glimpse of the watch on his left hand like Vinichenko, but Victor didn't seem to have them
Flotus
24 Oct 12:09 # Show original
A good version Yes, maybe he is I wonder how he'll find a house. Maybe Vita will remember what and tell him
Vito_185
24 Oct 12:25 # Show original
@Flotus: Maybe. Or alternatively, Vinichenko will somehow find Sveta's phone, which Victor threw out the window, in which the coordinates of the house from Thiel, well, or somehow he will understand that Kirill is involved and will extract information from him about this house
g1520869
24 Oct 14:33 # Show original
@Vito_185: and it seems to me Vinnichenko is the top of this gang, he really lives too well for his position, maybe he talks to Vita to find out what she knows and judging by the fact that Vita tells him everything, she doesn't know anything about him, I assume he will come to the house and try to kill the search engine as a witness, and Cyril will just smear because there is no one else to testify against him and this trafficking of girls will continue further, only with other performers. And he probably didn't know about his son, but the son, on the contrary, knew what dad was doing and wanted to curry favor with him, so he got into their gang, wanted to get closer to his father
Paramelion
24 Oct 15:12 # Show original
@g1520869: It's not a bad theory that the son found out about his father and decided to curry favor. It would explain some of the questions that I asked in my comment.
Vito_185
24 Oct 15:34 # Show original
@g1520869: an extremely dubious theory. Did his accomplices kill Artyom knowing that his father was their head? Also, do not forget the conversation between Vinichenko and Kirill at the beginning of this series, it did not look like a conversation between two accomplices, although they were alone. And most importantly, let's remember how this organization for the sale of girls was born in general. At first, Demchenkov and Til simply got the orphanage girls drunk and raped them, and then most likely they paid them money for silence and let them go. Thiel is a friend of Cyril. I mean, they were already familiar with this organization, as Artyom was dragged there, I'm still. If the operation is based on your theory, then how did Demchenko Sr. get dragged into this dubious company
poiree
24 Oct 15:48 # Show original
Vinnichenko
Tatul
24 Oct 15:58 # Show original
@Flotus: when Vita's father took her to this house, she noticed the cross on a handful
g1520869
24 Oct 16:32 # Show original
@Vito_185: well, I can assume that for so many years of their lawlessness, someone somehow claimed these two, they dabbled for their pleasures and Vinnichenko saw a good business in this, he had connections for this, he was burning about it somewhere, he dismissed them and in return said that they would work for him, by the way it would explain why they don't have so much money in their activities, and about Artyom, if Vinnichenko didn't know what his son was doing, they could lure him for their insurance if something suddenly opens up, but they killed him earlier and blamed Victor, conveniently, because only we the audience knows that Victor didn't kill(although, by the way, from his words), and the father does not know and also thinks about Victor, it is confusing, but I think you will follow the thread
g1520869
24 Oct 16:40 # Show original
@Vito_185: and by the way, it is quite possible that only Demchenko knew the main thing, and did not dedicate the rest at Vinnichenko's request, in general, Thiel and Kirill, with all their wildness, create a feeling of very cowardly characters. Therefore, I think Vinichenko Sr. forced Demchenko to work for himself, and Demchenko tightened Artyom as insurance. He was very good at hitting teenagers in the ears.
синь
24 Oct 18:38 # Show original
Vita will most likely see and remember the cross
ElllaDee
24 Oct 19:26 # Show original
@g1520869: if the elder Vinichenko is also involved, then this is some kind of fierce hopelessness then. The theory about the son is good, but I hope that at least someone is out of business there
MOPE_AHAHACOB
25 Oct 00:27 # Show original
or maybe he killed his son himself so that they wouldn't think of him. and the theory with insurance is top. But I want to believe that he is still a positive hero.
Blondy777
25 Oct 15:11 # Show original
And where to watch the promo can you tell me, please?
g1529800
25 Oct 20:05 # Show original
@Blondy777: at the end of episode 9 after the credits
Ezra
28 Oct 20:30 # Show original
@Flotus: She remembered the cross on the hill on the way home
Flotus
24 Oct 08:16 # Show original
Hurray! I guessed Kirill purely because Danya Steklov was called to play, and he uttered 2 phrases in 3 episodes. I realized that it was not for nothing
Now the question is, will they show us and explain who killed Elvira? Now it is clear that Sveta was not killed to make the "final quest"
ElllaDee
24 Oct 19:27 # Show original
@Flotus: Cyril killed him, I think
MOPE_AHAHACOB
25 Oct 00:31 # Show original
I would not say that Kirill has a difficult character role, is there really going to be something in the next series
Flotus
24 Oct 08:17 # Show original
And I still didn't understand - it turns out that Victor's wife Nastya was killed separately at all? So this is purely because of a quarrel with her husband, as a result of which she came to her brother? That is, not in connection with the gang's affairs in any way?
veer
24 Oct 12:44 # Show original
@Flotus: Yes, Thiel also told Victor that her brother had wanted her for a long time, and so to speak, the opportunity turned up
vk952544
24 Oct 09:57 # Show original
I didn't quite understand why Cyril had removed his sister..this red-haired search engine said that Kirill had wanted this for a long time. and why..? it's still unclear Victor is very sorry, I knew he was good. according to the promo for episode 10, it is unclear, I think he will survive.
the series has not been so exciting for a long time 🔥🔥🔥🔥 advise something similar, from Russian. I know how to shoot our kind of horror.
olyakuzlyaeva
24 Oct 10:09 # Show original
Maybe he wanted HER? Or "this" = to leave Victor.
deflaer
24 Oct 10:19 # Show original
@vk952544: https://myshows.me/view/69815 / I remember watching the territory for a long time, I liked it, but I forgot what it was about)
Flotus
24 Oct 10:26 # Show original
Kirill killed his sister because he raped her. "I've wanted this for a long time" - meaning I wanted her body. Because if he had left her alive after the violence, she would obviously have told her abusive husband and then he would have immediately killed Kirill, which is understandable
voronrun
24 Oct 12:56 # Show original
@Flotus: It's strange why Cyril reacted so much to her corpse, he didn't expect to be found? Maybe he didn't bury it.
Flotus
24 Oct 13:01 # Show original
Yes, I was also surprised by the reaction. Maybe it's just the horror of what he did and he realized it?
voronrun
24 Oct 13:48 # Show original
@Flotus: Perhaps Kirill just slept with Nastya, but did not kill her. I told others about it. And they took the chance to frame Victor, killed her and buried her. (Thiel told the dying Victor: How could he not take advantage of such a chance) And Kirill still believes that Victor killed Nastya out of jealousy. Otherwise, why would they show his conversation with his mother?
Flotus
24 Oct 16:01 # Show original
Hmmmmm by the way I didn't think of it After all, Till could have lied and in fact Cyril may not have killed his sister Why didn't I think of that?
MOPE_AHAHACOB
25 Oct 00:38 # Show original
maybe they showed it so that no one would testify against him later and say that he was in shock
valeriya1508
24 Oct 14:14 # Show original
How is it not clear? There was a specific phrase, he had wanted it for a long time, since they were teenagers.
Flotus
24 Oct 16:02 # Show original
Isn't he her own brother or something?
SelfishBastard1
24 Oct 16:37 # Show original
@Flotus: summary
Пиу
05 Nov 00:26 # Show original
@SelfishBastard1: in this series, the stepbrother means that the fathers are different or that the children are from different marriages of the parents?
Adrasteya
05 Nov 11:08 # Show original
@Piu: stepbrothers are basically from different marriages of parents, not blood relatives, but purely legally. Children who have a common father are half-blooded, one mother is half-uterine.
Пиу
05 Nov 11:31 # Show translation
@Adrasteya: Да, я в курсе, мне просто огромное количество людей доказывали, что если один родитель общий, то это сводные. Устал их переубеждать. Но мне интересно в данном сериале, как они это обозначали. Если как от разных браков, то чья тогда мама?
kira_kirchenko
24 Oct 17:33 # Show original
The series is Crystal and the Cat is also nothing
hatekrishate
24 Oct 19:16 # Show original
Are there any other similar series?) I've watched these too, they're good)
voronrun
24 Oct 20:29 # Show original
@hatekrishate: in the foreign TV series Sharp Objects, the psychological portrait of the heroine is very similar to Svetlana, it seemed to me so
Adrasteya
24 Oct 21:09 # Show original
@hatekrishate: any Scandinavian detective.
veer
25 Oct 00:32 # Show original
@hatekrishate: female praying mantis, Russian TV series
fb673449
25 Oct 01:08 # Show original
Well, like Russian. French originally
lenta2007
27 Oct 22:28 # Show original
@hatekrishate: Try to take a look at the "Looming". There is also hopeless hopelessness. A maniac who kills girls and investigators who have a lot of cockroaches in their heads.
MartaSh
05 Nov 02:46 # Show original
@hatekrishate: Secrets of the city of En, Pennsylvania
VikDz
24 Oct 20:55 # Show original
@vk952544: Crystal. He's even better, as far as I'm concerned
Marina_more
25 Oct 20:47 # Show original
@vk952544: I liked the whirlpool, it's also about the kidnapping of teenagers)
id294751944
26 Oct 08:13 # Show original
@vk952544: watch the TV series Crystal. You'll like it. And very interesting, but not our Sinner
g1529800
24 Oct 12:05 # Show original
It turns out that the red-haired search engine is Kira's father? His phrase was in the promo: "now the whole family is together"
Flotus
24 Oct 12:28 # Show original
Well, yes, if he is the second rapist, then his daughter is from him And he probably knows it - a small town
Tatul
24 Oct 16:12 # Show original
@Flotus: The last one is the one and the pope🙈
FRANY
25 Oct 17:13 # Show original
Well, at the moment when he attacks Victor with a knife, a flashback with a small Light appears, everything is obvious here.
Tatul
26 Oct 00:12 # Show original
@FRANY: Light at his foot?
van_nilla
03 Nov 19:31 # Show original
@g1529800: Why is Til Kira's father? Why is he so sure himself? There were two of them. it is clear that she looks more like Andrey. but in theory, it could be any of them...
voronrun
24 Oct 12:30 # Show original
Oh Victor, how so. Yes, of course it's a pity for this kind man. He was a good man.
Vito_185
24 Oct 12:46 #
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Paramelion
24 Oct 13:22 # Show original
To be honest, I liked the series the least. I certainly like the series very much. But to watch half the series is exactly about what is already known from the previously shown frames or from Vita's retelling in the hospital, about how her father drove, etc. That's why? there was zero new information in this flashback. And drama for drama's sake is stretching the timekeeping.
Until the last moment, I hoped that they were deliberately giving us a hint, hinting in different ways, then he was allegedly calling someone (it turned out to be Tilya, to lure the Light), then that Victor would be shot immediately when resisting. But it turned out that this was how we were hinted at his involvement. But in TV series about maniacs or organized criminal groups, the most important thing is motivation. What motivated Artyom? He comes from a well-off family and does not need money. What motivated Thiel, Cyril? Where did they spend the money for the girls? One lived in an ordinary house with his family, Kirill and Andrey also do not posh. Hopefully the last episode will reveal that.
voronrun
24 Oct 15:12 # Show original
@Paramelion: I agree with you. The motivation is not yet clear. Unless Thiel is just a maniac. He enjoys raping and killing. He sighed as if he had finished after Victor's stomach was ripped open. Then I cried enjoying his suffering. Why others were doing this, that's the question, of course.
MOPE_AHAHACOB
25 Oct 00:41 # Show original
Artyom may have been a rapist at school, so maniacal behavior can also be traced. But the question of where the money is is still open
Tatul
24 Oct 16:01 # Show original
Ha! Well, where are those who wrote that Thiel cannot be the third, because he is too young for Sveta)
Flotus
24 Oct 16:02 # Show original
He's really too young for Sveta. Even in life, the actor is 4 years younger than Razumovskaya, and it can be seen that Serzin looks younger than his 37 even
de_javu
24 Oct 22:36 # Show original
@Flotus: Well, the fact that he looks younger than 37 is far-fetched) and the Light in the story, as I understand it, is much under 40, gave birth early, my daughter is 18. The rapist was only a few years older
-TraumfraU-
25 Oct 02:00 # Show original
@de_javu: well, according to this logic, you can shoot 60-year-olds and say that they are 8 years old.
de_javu
25 Oct 02:09 # Show original
@-TraumfraU-: Don't talk nonsense. My environment is now mostly people 35-40 years old and all of them, oh horror! they look different)))all classmates are the same age, but some look 30, some look 50)) I don't see a problem that she is playing a 35-year-old, and he is conditionally 40-year-old - this is real.
-TraumfraU-
25 Oct 02:14 # Show original
@de_javu: your environment needs to drink less
de_javu
25 Oct 02:18 # Show original
@-TraumfraU-: Thanks for the tips! Someone asked them)) When there is nothing to say on the topic, such nonsense begins as the transition to my environment. By the way, the heroine was drinking like a bastard, that's the answer to why she looks older))
-TraumfraU-
25 Oct 02:26 # Show original
@de_javu: she will fully look exactly at 41 hours, and the rear at 37.
makaronkaLee
29 Oct 00:37 # Show original
It was in the first episodes that she adopted Kira at 25. Who was 9 years old. That means 34-35.
voronrun
24 Oct 16:12 # Show original
@Tatul: but he wasn't the third, he was the second.
ElllaDee
24 Oct 19:30 # Show original
@Tatul: I'm here and I still think so. For me, it's like some kind of blunder, though I still don't understand how this is possible.
Tatul
24 Oct 16:05 # Show original
It turns out that this trio has been ill for many years. It's so easy to take the lives of girls, rape them, bury them in greenhouses, nightmare the whole family (I'm talking about Demchenkov. It's amazing that he found a wife for his age)In TV shows, this is usually 1 maniac. And then they came up with a whole organized criminal group. Any thoughts on how Kira got to Artyom?
ДианаСиняговская
24 Oct 16:37 # Show original
@Tatul: rather, Artyom came out to her. A coach from children.I leaked information about her at home
MOPE_AHAHACOB
25 Oct 00:43 # Show original
I wonder why an aunt from an orphanage would do this, she would attach further than her own, if she knows that this mother was taken away (but in general it's all terrible)
zlobny_korzhik
24 Oct 17:05 # Show original
Well, the intrigue did not work out. Victor is very sorry, I want to say "I hope he somehow gets out and stays alive", but after what he saw and after seeing the whole picture, I don't even know if he himself would like to stay alive :(
separately, I would like to thank the casting manager for this series. throughout the series, I wanted to give Vita's father through the screen in the snout, divinely playing the bastard, of course.
Tatul
24 Oct 17:10 # Show original
@zlobny_korzhik: Yes, just scum
voronrun
24 Oct 20:47 # Show original
@zlobny_korzhik: Victor clamped the wound in time, if he does not lose a lot of blood, they will pump it out. Besides, if Thiel is killed during the arrest, then only Victor knows about Kirill. There's no way he can die. He's going to get even with him.
MOPE_AHAHACOB
25 Oct 00:44 # Show original
I think he went with the recorder again. he also recorded all conversations with the girls' parents, and here, before his "death", he did not spit pus, but learned all the facts from a search engine. and who would take his word for it))
Flotus
24 Oct 17:45 # Show original
It dawned on me! Why did everyone assume that Kira's father was a search engine? She was raped by both of them Thus, Kira's father may also be Vita's father. The result is that Vita and Kira are paternal sisters, and in the end Svetlana takes her to St. Petersburg with her as her daughter's sister to give her a chance at a normal life
The question, of course, is whether it is possible for all three to return to normal life after that
ElllaDee
24 Oct 19:32 # Show original
@Flotus: and then why would we shove red-haired Andrei, who was really a rapist, if he wasn't even Kira's father in the end :D
voronrun
24 Oct 20:59 # Show original
@Flotus: if both Thiel and Vinnichenko die in a shootout. Then only Vita, who will probably stay in the car, will be able to open the basement and save the lives of Kira and Svetlana.
MOPE_AHAHACOB
25 Oct 00:45 # Show original
I don't think that the big guy is the father, the girl is red-haired, Til is too
ElllaDee
24 Oct 19:23 # Show original
Ugh, that sucks. One episode removed the score from the series. Andrew, seriously? Well, only the lazy one didn't say anything about him. I completely denied that it was him, well, because he is the maximum age of Sveta, or even younger, as possible. And the young cop is also involved, so I bet on him that he was definitely not involved. And as a result, Vinichenko is not involved, but Kirill is still involved. And what does it mean that Kirill wanted Nastya, she's his sister, well, kamon. It would have been better if Victor had really killed Nastya, just an accident. But incest is too much. I'm very upset and I don't even care what happens in the final. It is clear that half of the Light series with Kira will try to get out, then Vinichenko will come, kill Andrei, save the Light and the end. Well, at least they left some intrigue at the end. Alexander Ilyin Jr. played like that, bravo, just a bright spot of this series, although the series is good, but why did they screw up so much in the end...
Tatul
24 Oct 20:55 # Show original
@ElllaDee: They are consolidated
Flotus
24 Oct 23:08 # Show original
in the TG channel, where the series is being discussed, they offered a version that Steklov's hero from this orphanage was adopted by the mother of the murdered Anastasia, that is, he is not even a half-brother and not a half-brother, but actually a stranger… Then there is not even incest, it turns out
The good version is not mine I think that's how it will turn out in the end.
MOPE_AHAHACOB
25 Oct 00:49 # Show original
And what is the channel?
ElllaDee
25 Oct 07:43 # Show original
@Flotus: ah, well, then it will be logical, yes
a1397175
25 Oct 08:51 # Show original
In general, the concept of "stepbrother" does not imply common blood, these are children from previous relationships
MOPE_AHAHACOB
25 Oct 00:49 # Show original
the young cop could catch up later, not all at once the gang was organized once and for all. About incest — do you really think it's rare? There are so many terrible stories about how relatives (father, grandfather, uncle, brother) rape girls and girls. I would like to live in a world where this does not exist, but let's be realistic. such a twist could have been put into the series just for people who find it hard to even imagine. why? for awareness, this is an informational function of the series. Well, as in men's and women's horror stories, so here
id372373299
26 Oct 08:43 # Show original
@ElllaDee: Yes, it is possible. You probably haven't met people who don't match their age externally..
Vito_185
24 Oct 19:57 # Show original
I didn't even get it. The promo says "watch the season finale", not "watch the series finale". A hint of a sequel? And then what will it be about if the Story of Sveta comes to an end. Or will the second season be about other characters?
Adrasteya
24 Oct 21:16 # Show original
@Vito_185: Demchenko hinted at a serious roof. If he wasn't lying, then here's the catch for the second season.
Northland
25 Oct 13:21 # Show original
he talked about this very roof to Vita as if he was proud, and not afraid of her, something tells me that he is his own roof, because he raped the light without an order, but on his own
Tatul
26 Oct 00:10 # Show original
@Northland: She and Thiel were very young then, so they had fun. I think there was definitely no roof at that time. Well, he could just bully Vita.
Flotus
24 Oct 23:14 # Show original
Most likely, the authors of the project and the producers saw the high audience interest in the project and decided to extend it Either the anthology will be In fact, the Track is an anthology of Crystal
g1530275
25 Oct 02:26 # Show original
@Flotus: Finally, a real Russian detective!!
a1397175
25 Oct 08:53 # Show original
This is a standard die
FrankPolard
24 Oct 21:25 # Show original
I may have missed something, but it remains completely unclear who carried the disfigured corpse of this girl in the third series and then shot back from the search engines? None of this whole gang of bastards is suitable: the first was already dead, the second was in charge of the search, this kid does not fight at all, the tattoo artist also seemed to participate in the search, who then?
g1529800
24 Oct 22:54 # Show original
@FrankPolard: Demchenkov also said Twisted & # 34; there are a lot of US& # 34;, I think there are still characters behind the scenes
a1397175
24 Oct 22:55 # Show original
Why doesn't the kid fight? I think he was dragging me
Flotus
24 Oct 23:09 # Show original
This is what Steklov's hero did
MOPE_AHAHACOB
25 Oct 00:51 # Show original
but again, why? Why did Thiel insist on this path? to distract from the search? for the sake of being demonstrative?
Adrasteya
27 Oct 16:00 # Show original
@FrankPolard: Cyril could. And why not Artyom?
id295298469
24 Oct 21:37 # Show original
I believe to the last that Vinnichenko Sr. is not involved in this organized criminal group, and while he and Vita are going, she will notice the cross that she saw when her father took her to this ill-fated house, Vinnichenko will bring her there and there will be a happy ending
MOPE_AHAHACOB
25 Oct 00:52 # Show original
I also want to believe it, but if he dies and the girl saves everyone, I have nothing against it
lady_kana
24 Oct 21:43 # Show original
I think that Vinnichenko Sr. is still involved and just knows how not to get burned and will get away with it.;
MOPE_AHAHACOB
25 Oct 00:52 # Show original
Yes, he doesn't have horror on his face. but Kirill had... if he was not in the case, then at least in the topic
mixer1701
PRO
24 Oct 22:09 # Show original
Vinichenko, even if he is not involved, is just the father of the year. It is necessary to beat such fathers who forbid children, boys in particular, to show feelings. If the disabled person himself is emotional, he brought his professional deformity into the house, go to a shrink if the brain remains. Vinichenko Jr., of course, is a freak, but only his father is to blame for this. But he'll never understand that. The price of his confession to Vita is a pittance. The version with Thiel the scoundrel has always seemed weak because of the age of the hero, who looks younger than Sveta. Although the second rapist was very young, the hands in the frame were almost feminine, he was probably a teenager, and at most 15 years old. Has Demchenkov washed at least once in his life, after his nurse washed him in the hospital? If I were Kira, I would run away immediately at the sight of this Barmalei. I will never believe that anyone, at the sight of him, was not afraid to get into his car. It looks dirty, like the fruit of Baba Yaga's rape by the goblin. The series reminds me more and more of the episodes of Criminal Russia. Hello to all children and teenagers of the 90s.
g1529800
24 Oct 22:39 # Show original
@mixer1701: on the contrary, a typical provincial man, a la hunter, fisherman, mushroom picker. If he was wearing a tie, it would be strange. And as for Vinichenko the elder, it's so obvious that it's boring. The hope is that the writers will pull a trump card out of their sleeve in the form of a new character
MOPE_AHAHACOB
25 Oct 00:56 # Show original
A new character is the road either to a new season or to the annals of history, because the audience will not understand the movie.
de_javu
24 Oct 22:43 # Show original
Well, as I said about Steklov right away, I did not refuse my words, I played the bet. I've been sure for a long time that he killed Elvira. But I expected that everything would open up in the final episode and I did not expect that Sveta would get into the basement again. I'm sorry for Victor and upset that he still trusted Teal, although he immediately suspected him.
g1529800
24 Oct 22:47 # Show original
By the way, in the "card of the" TV series on Yandex in the list of actors, there is a character of young til. So, who doubts it's him, & # 34;it's him& # 34;
de_javu
24 Oct 22:50 # Show original
@g1529800: No one doubts for a long time, and they have already written about young Thiel 10 times for previous episodes, although this is of course a Spoiler of pure water and writing this before the denouement and without marking the Spoiler is pure piggishness
myseryals
24 Oct 23:05 # Show original
I don't understand how Kira was written off with Artyom while in St. Petersburg? How they found each other..?
de_javu
24 Oct 23:07 # Show original
@myseryals: Well, they said that Artyom was looking for such people, lonely girls with problems, they found a lot of correspondence on the phone. Plus, she called the orphanage, her data could be leaked by the head of it and he met her, let's say in VK, and then it's a matter of technique
MOPE_AHAHACOB
25 Oct 00:58 # Show original
she could have her hometown in the description, so you don't even need to invent a reason
Adrasteya
27 Oct 16:04 # Show original
@myseryals: Maybe she's on social media.She asked how to find her biological parents and met him on some website.
Dantalia
24 Oct 23:41 # Show original
This Demchenko is such a chump, and their house is old and dirty - did he make money from all this, or did he just do everything for fun?
Idemonica
25 Oct 01:42 # Show original
@Dantalia: Demchenkov
kira_kirchenko
29 Oct 13:27 # Show translation
Больше удивляет как он стал провизором. Таким ублюдкам не до учёбы обычно
-TraumfraU-
25 Oct 00:06 # Show original
Ugly showrunners, pick the right actors. The series is so good, was it difficult to take an actor 15-20 years older for the role of Thiel?
MOPE_AHAHACOB
25 Oct 00:58 # Show original
Then it would be obvious that he was the second rapist.
de_javu
25 Oct 01:51 # Show original
@-TraumfraU-: And why should he be 15-20 years older if he is conditionally 5 years older? 15/20, 35/40 What is the miskast?
-TraumfraU-
25 Oct 01:55 # Show original
@de_javu: the actor is 4 years younger than Svetlana. It's stupid even outwardly visible.
de_javu
25 Oct 02:05 # Show original
@-TraumfraU-: And Glass is 31, but it seems to me that it pulls at all 40, yet they look different. Considering the kind of life the heroine has lived, why wouldn't she look 40 at her 35? This is an empty dig, the difference between the characters is no more than 5 years, even if the difference is in the opposite direction. Serzin, because of his appearance, may look like this at 50, so what?
Tatul
25 Oct 12:08 # Show original
@-TraumfraU-: Tell me, why did you stick to their age so much? It often happens in films that actors play a mother and daughter, but in real life they have a difference of 10-15 years. Moreover, this is a movie, not real life
doonyasha
PRO
01 Nov 01:27 # Show original
@Tatul: I immediately remember the movie Alexander, where Jolie plays the mother of Colin Farrell (he is a year younger)
Брусникааа
25 Oct 00:31 # Show original
You can't do that
maryalice_me
25 Oct 03:03 # Show original
I still want to believe that the actor playing Thiel is not a mistake, but a hint that he is not the rapist, and together with Cyril joined the organized crime group later. It also haunts me that Vinnichenko's son is red-haired and curly-haired, similar to Kira, by age he would fit perfectly into the story of Sveta's rape. Plus, he listened to Vita's conversation with Sveta in the mental hospital and could listen to the conversation with Elvira, after which she was killed. Demchenkov was ready to kill Vita and make her a thing, Artyom could have the same idea, it would be a logical entry into the gang
MOPE_AHAHACOB
26 Oct 14:43 # Show original
The only thing that doesn't add up is a flashback with a knife
artemaydrian
25 Oct 03:57 # Show original
Do not forget that this is the first season of the series and it is not a fact that we will find out everything in the 10th episode
Northland
25 Oct 13:19 # Show original
many of you raise the money issue in the comments, but it seems to me that the whole group simply had sadistic tendencies, and by and large they raped and enjoyed torture and killing, and they did not have so many orders with financial rewards. if we roughly compare the number of missing persons, then Victor, according to Kirill, had about twenty appearing in the pantheon, minus Kira and her cellmate, this is already 18, we are shown 3 or 4 "sets of remains" in the greenhouse, I do not remember how many graves there are, but it turns out that they sold about 15 girls maybe less. it seems to me that if all this money is divided into all those involved and for the time during which they are doing this, then it will not turn out to be such a fabulous sum.
Well, as for acting, I am incredibly fascinated by the actress playing Vita. the sudden fear in her eyes when her father grabs her, this universal horror in her eyes at the same time with hopelessness, detachment after what happened, you involuntarily begin to think that the girl seemed to have really experienced something like this
a1397175
25 Oct 17:14 # Show original
You forget the orphanage, there was probably the main field for finding girls, the headmistress burned a ton of personal files and Victor doesn't have them on the board
MOPE_AHAHACOB
26 Oct 14:45 # Show original
I also think that Victor didn't know about all of them. the orphanage itself gave away and did not declare itself, but destroyed the cases. and in 18 years, there are only 15 girls, provided that girls and women have been missing regularly for more than 10 years? Even a maniac can't hold back like that, and there's a whole bunch of maniacs here
rio_suerte
25 Oct 16:11 # Show original
I must tell Kinopoisk that in such series they do not indicate the names of their characters in the lists of actors, especially where there is a spoiler. I spoilt myself about the Search Engine a few episodes ago, since Andrei is on the list of actors in his youth. Enrages. For me, what was happening in this house between Victor and Thiel was completely expected. I believe that Vinnichenko Sr. has nothing to do with it and he and Vita will come to the rescue. If he is in business, it will be quite some kind of fierce blackness.
Sveta and Andrey's age has already been talked about 100,500 times. There is absolutely no miscast for me. Some still don't understand that people over the age of 20-25 can look very different based on lifestyle, genetics, stress and bad habits. It makes perfect sense to me that Sveta looks older, since she lives a hard life and drinks like scum. And Thiel looks her age, or even a little younger. If you look back at the play, you can see a lot of men aged 35-45 who look the same. Usually these are just such tall, overweight, wiry people. Such genetics and type.
We are waiting for the final. I think, plus or minus, there will be nothing unusual, it will just be untangling the tangle.
de_javu
25 Oct 18:30 # Show original
@rio_suerte: It seems that KinoPoisk has already removed the signature, but it's a little late. Anyway, I watched yesterday and there is a guy in the cast, but the hero is not signed. It often happens, but here they really made a mistake, and some commentators were happy to tell everyone about their find, even if no one asked them
Tatul
26 Oct 00:19 # Show original
@de_javu: the groom is still not signed in Fischer's caste
Brooklyn1161
PRO
26 Oct 13:35 # Show original
@Tatul: there will be a new feature, to calculate those who are not subscribed
MOPE_AHAHACOB
26 Oct 14:47 # Show original
We need to go back and hush up those comments
Tatul
26 Oct 15:02 # Show original
@Brooklyn1161: A lot of people don't sign up when the series is just coming out.
Paramelion
26 Oct 15:07 # Show original
@Tatul: you're right now giving a good fuck to those who haven't watched Fisher yet, but are going to
kira_kirchenko
29 Oct 13:32 # Show translation
А эти https://www.kino-teatr.ru/kino/movie/ros/169109/titr/ так и не убрали. Нафига так делать?🤬
Tatul
26 Oct 15:05 # Show original
Interesting fact. The girl who plays the Light in her youth plays the young heroine Razumovskaya in the Crystal
lenta2007
01 Nov 13:44 # Show original
@Tatul: Here's another fact - in the series "District Center" Razumovskaya's daughter is played by "Vita Demchenkova". What just doesn't happen in the movies!
NTXT
27 Oct 02:12 # Show original
I also really hope that Artyom's dad is normal, well, Riley can't all be assholes. Of course, I expected that the director would set the bar for Russian-language TV series even higher after Khrustalny. I didn't even expect that much)
Graciesse
27 Oct 16:29 # Show original
It is very interesting to read the discussion of the series and promos)) some users look out for such inconspicuous details and nuances, build logical chains, while I don't really remember the silhouettes of Sveta's rapists from the first series. The plot twist exceeded expectations. Sveta is going through this hell again, trauma on trauma. No psychologist will help here. I really hope that the final episode will not spoil the experience, and there will be no heartwarming dialogues about how you could/how you could.
NTXT
27 Oct 18:38 # Show original
I hope not to shit in the final episode and it will be cool, then I will give 10 points to the series))
Hamali666
29 Oct 05:08 # Show original
Lobanov don't you dare die, don't you dare, Semyon, I drowned all 9 episodes for you, don't even think about it…
Ezra
30 Oct 14:05 # Show original
@Hamali666: I'm also worried about him, the only normal character.
Di_Kamilevna
30 Oct 10:03 # Show original
A very decent series! I dragged it out from the first episode, and the denouement was twisted (don't grieve)
olegzaxarov
30 Oct 11:17 # Show original
A cool series , like a female version of Crystal )
scarcelyinside
30 Oct 23:37 # Show original
Either I'm watching too much true extreme, or something, but the twist with Andrey is outrageously obvious. By the third episode, it was already clear that he was definitely taking part. I'd rather be surprised if it turns out that Vinnichenko has nothing to do with it. This is going to be a micro surprise.
The series resembles "Crystal". The one, for my taste, is made thinner, although the problem with both series is the same: the intrigue did not work out.
a_delta
31 Oct 22:59 # Show original
Disgusting (the situation and the feeling of it) and great (script, actors, directing)! It gets on my nerves , I scrolled down all the comments with my eyes closed so that I wouldn't get spoilers I'm being led to the end and I don't understand which of the (already) main characters of the series is the main one. Ay! wild minus - voice acting
doonyasha
PRO
01 Nov 09:49 # Show original
Aigul from Kazan - the reference is counted
Gordey
02 Nov 12:56 # Show original
I thought this Cyril was involved! He killed Elvira too
And I wrote so much that this red-haired search engine is the third asshole!
Cyril, did he rape and kill his sister?! And he killed Elvira!
I thought that if Victor was one of the good ones, he would die. And the next episode will be a repeat take of hell for Sveta, to get out of this house again
The second reason is that he likes aggressive sex only with young girls.
Another moment, Kira was taken to the basement to the same fate as the other girls, but it was just a coincidence that she met her father there
Yes, maybe he is
I wonder how he'll find a house.
Maybe Vita will remember what and tell him
Now the question is, will they show us and explain who killed Elvira? Now it is clear that Sveta was not killed to make the "final quest"
Victor is very sorry, I knew he was good. according to the promo for episode 10, it is unclear, I think he will survive.
the series has not been so exciting for a long time 🔥🔥🔥🔥 advise something similar, from Russian. I know how to shoot our kind of horror.
After all, Till could have lied and in fact Cyril may not have killed his sister
Why didn't I think of that?
Try to take a look at the "Looming". There is also hopeless hopelessness. A maniac who kills girls and investigators who have a lot of cockroaches in their heads.
And he probably knows it - a small town
Until the last moment, I hoped that they were deliberately giving us a hint, hinting in different ways, then he was allegedly calling someone (it turned out to be Tilya, to lure the Light), then that Victor would be shot immediately when resisting. But it turned out that this was how we were hinted at his involvement.
But in TV series about maniacs or organized criminal groups, the most important thing is motivation. What motivated Artyom? He comes from a well-off family and does not need money. What motivated Thiel, Cyril?
Where did they spend the money for the girls? One lived in an ordinary house with his family, Kirill and Andrey also do not posh. Hopefully the last episode will reveal that.
Why others were doing this, that's the question, of course.
Even in life, the actor is 4 years younger than Razumovskaya, and it can be seen
that Serzin looks younger than his 37 even
I don't see a problem that she is playing a 35-year-old, and he is conditionally 40-year-old - this is real.
When there is nothing to say on the topic, such nonsense begins as the transition to my environment.
By the way, the heroine was drinking like a bastard, that's the answer to why she looks older))
A coach from children.I leaked information about her at home
Victor is very sorry, I want to say "I hope he somehow gets out and stays alive", but after what he saw and after seeing the whole picture, I don't even know if he himself would like to stay alive :(
separately, I would like to thank the casting manager for this series. throughout the series, I wanted to give Vita's father through the screen in the snout, divinely playing the bastard, of course.
Why did everyone assume that Kira's father was a search engine? She was raped by both of them
Thus, Kira's father may also be Vita's father.
The result is that Vita and Kira are paternal sisters, and in the end Svetlana takes her to St. Petersburg with her as her daughter's sister to give her a chance at a normal life
The question, of course, is whether it is possible for all three to return to normal life after that
Andrew, seriously? Well, only the lazy one didn't say anything about him. I completely denied that it was him, well, because he is the maximum age of Sveta, or even younger, as possible.
And the young cop is also involved, so I bet on him that he was definitely not involved. And as a result, Vinichenko is not involved, but Kirill is still involved.
And what does it mean that Kirill wanted Nastya, she's his sister, well, kamon.
It would have been better if Victor had really killed Nastya, just an accident. But incest is too much.
I'm very upset and I don't even care what happens in the final. It is clear that half of the Light series with Kira will try to get out, then Vinichenko will come, kill Andrei, save the Light and the end. Well, at least they left some intrigue at the end.
Alexander Ilyin Jr. played like that, bravo, just a bright spot of this series, although the series is good, but why did they screw up so much in the end...
The good version is not mine
I think that's how it will turn out in the end.
Either the anthology will be
In fact, the Track is an anthology of Crystal
The version with Thiel the scoundrel has always seemed weak because of the age of the hero, who looks younger than Sveta. Although the second rapist was very young, the hands in the frame were almost feminine, he was probably a teenager, and at most 15 years old.
Has Demchenkov washed at least once in his life, after his nurse washed him in the hospital? If I were Kira, I would run away immediately at the sight of this Barmalei. I will never believe that anyone, at the sight of him, was not afraid to get into his car. It looks dirty, like the fruit of Baba Yaga's rape by the goblin.
The series reminds me more and more of the episodes of Criminal Russia. Hello to all children and teenagers of the 90s.
And as for Vinichenko the elder, it's so obvious that it's boring. The hope is that the writers will pull a trump card out of their sleeve in the form of a new character
I've been sure for a long time that he killed Elvira.
But I expected that everything would open up in the final episode and I did not expect that Sveta would get into the basement again.
I'm sorry for Victor and upset that he still trusted Teal, although he immediately suspected him.
Plus, she called the orphanage, her data could be leaked by the head of it and he met her, let's say in VK, and then it's a matter of technique
Serzin, because of his appearance, may look like this at 50, so what?
if we roughly compare the number of missing persons, then Victor, according to Kirill, had about twenty appearing in the pantheon, minus Kira and her cellmate, this is already 18, we are shown 3 or 4 "sets of remains" in the greenhouse, I do not remember how many graves there are, but it turns out that they sold about 15 girls maybe less.
it seems to me that if all this money is divided into all those involved and for the time during which they are doing this, then it will not turn out to be such a fabulous sum.
Well, as for acting, I am incredibly fascinated by the actress playing Vita.
the sudden fear in her eyes when her father grabs her, this universal horror in her eyes at the same time with hopelessness, detachment after what happened, you involuntarily begin to think that the girl seemed to have really experienced something like this
For me, what was happening in this house between Victor and Thiel was completely expected.
I believe that Vinnichenko Sr. has nothing to do with it and he and Vita will come to the rescue. If he is in business, it will be quite some kind of fierce blackness.
Sveta and Andrey's age has already been talked about 100,500 times. There is absolutely no miscast for me. Some still don't understand that people over the age of 20-25 can look very different based on lifestyle, genetics, stress and bad habits. It makes perfect sense to me that Sveta looks older, since she lives a hard life and drinks like scum. And Thiel looks her age, or even a little younger. If you look back at the play, you can see a lot of men aged 35-45 who look the same. Usually these are just such tall, overweight, wiry people. Such genetics and type.
We are waiting for the final. I think, plus or minus, there will be nothing unusual, it will just be untangling the tangle.
I'd rather be surprised if it turns out that Vinnichenko has nothing to do with it. This is going to be a micro surprise.
The series resembles "Crystal". The one, for my taste, is made thinner, although the problem with both series is the same: the intrigue did not work out.
, I scrolled down all the comments with my eyes closed so that I wouldn't get spoilers
I'm being led to the end and I don't understand which of the (already) main characters of the series is the main one. Ay!
wild minus - voice acting