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s05e08 — Chapter Eight: The Rightside Up
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| Release Date: | 31.12.202531.12.2025 15:00 |
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1502The ending is cool, everyone has grown up, everyone has found their way. I was just thrilled with this beautifully finished story.
For some reason, this trip to the Abyss reminded me of Snydercat😄😄😄
It was like a breath of fresh air. Cool location.
He sat the whole scene like Luke in the last screenshot, thank God "everyone" was alive.
Steve will kick back, 11 will sacrifice himself, but there will be a time jump and everything will roll back to the first season, that Will Will not disappear. They shouldn't have rejuvenated him in the first episode. Maybe the old actors will be invited for a cameo. Guns were hung up on time travel in bulk
Before the final, I want to sum up a little bit, I started watching the OSD in 2020, while we were sitting at home, and at the same time I was writing my diploma, so the diploma faded into the background, I was so impressed and these emotions still haunt me. My expectations for the finale, I hope it will be such that you will want to review it!
I love you all, HAPPY STRANGER THINGS NEW YEAR!
She told El that she knew everything about Henry, but that when she was in the lab, he was just a harmless lab assistant. I think before El, he treated Kali, helped her escape, and she just took his side, unlike El. Kali acts like Henry, draws strength from bad memories, from hatred, which El tried to teach. But unlike Kali, El was able to overcome this hatred in herself, to find light in Mike, Hopper, her friends, she did not even kill Dr. Brenner.
El has already chosen between Kali and her friends and her family once, and I hope she doesn't make a mistake with her choice now, and Hopper won't miss.
Actually, Kali's idea is stupid, because Al and Kali will die, but El's mom will remain, who also has abilities like El's.
And of course, the last one #STEVIE
Star 3: Revenge of the Sith. In the finale, Emperor Palpatine wins an absolute victory: the Jedi order is destroyed, he is recognized as Emperor, and Anakin Skywalker is deceived and turned to the dark side of the Force.
Or Avengers: Infinity War. Thanos implements his plan to destroy 50% of the entire population of the universe. The Avengers suffer a major defeat.
Well, these films have a sequel with a happy ending.
Then: Burn, burn clearly. What would happen if Superman were evil? In the finale, the villain wins
And so from the films where evil wins, mostly horror and thrillers:
Rosemary's Baby
The Wicker Man (1973 only, with Cage remake)
Omen (what's the old, what's the new movie)
The Silence of the Lambs (the main villain Hannibal Lecter escapes at the end)
And so, of course, there are few such films)
The ending was very disappointing ((( I wanted the tragic death of someone from the gg (no matter how cruel it may sound), but only in order to live through the emotions of loss and cry…
35 minutes left guys
Tick tock
I'll start from the beginning: it all started during World War II, when the US government conducted the Rainbow Project, in which they tried to make things invisible to gain an advantage in the war. As part of this, there was the Philadelphia Experiment (1943), in which the military tried to make the ship "Eldridge" invisible. But something went wrong, and the ship was transported to Dimension X, then returned to Earth again. Dr. Brenner's father was on the ship. The DNA of those who were on the ship somehow changed, Dr. Brenner's father was injured and told his son about this dimension X before he died. So Dr. Brenner became obsessed with studying these changes. It was he who would later head the Nevada Experiment near Area 51. The laboratories were in Nevada. Apparently, he managed to recreate the portals to Dimension X. One of the employees stole such a device for the purpose of sabotage and hid it in a cave. Henry Krill, whose father also worked on this project, accidentally climbed into a cave and was transported to dimension X, where he stayed for 12 hours. That's where this dark matter lives, or the Torturer of the Mind. The torturer used Henry as a vessel, and Henry, in turn, gave the shapeless entity the appearance of a spider. He returned (with the help of what exactly, we do not know), he was changed in the same way, because he faced the torturer of the Mind.Upon returning, his memory was erased. But his DNA has changed, his abilities have appeared. He started killing animals (most likely under the influence of the Torturer), and even accidentally injured another child. My parents moved to Hawkins.
1953, the height of the Cold War: the launch of the MK-Ultra project. The Hawkins laboratory became a front for brutal experiments with consciousness (using techniques for torture and interrogation of spies). Years later, Brenner finally finds the owner of the spyglass and contacts Henry's mother. Brenner understands that you have to wait for the moment to get Henry into your lab.
And so, on November 6, 1959, Henry tries to find Patty's biological mother (as Audie did). But then Patty's father, Patty's foster father, the headmaster of Newby's school, arrives and the Torturer tries to kill his father through Vecna's body, and Henry tried to protect him.
By the way, all this is going on during the play, which was staged by Joyce (Will's mom), who was also at school.
Then Henry kills his sister and mother at home, his father survives.Then Henry comes back to school and sees Brenner threatening Patty. The torturer seizes Henry and forces him to throw Patty off the stage and, weakened, he loses consciousness. Brenner takes Henry in, begins to study him, and launches the MK-Ultra project. Brenner began to transfuse Henry's altered blood into pregnant female test subjects. Mothers were constantly kept on some kind of drugs, and their children, who were born with abilities, were left in the laboratory. That's how all these children appeared, including the 11th (born in 1971), 8th, etc.
1983year (first season): Brenner, in search of Henry, sends Odie into a mental space, where she finds and touches the Demogorgon, at this moment:
a) the wrong side is being created, which has become the "imprint" of Hawkins' reality on the matter of Dimension X. The real world was copied at that moment in time and froze on December 6th, 1983. The wrong side is a bridge (wormhole) between our world and dimension x
. b) The gate opens between Hawkins and the Wrong side, on the same day Vecna kidnaps Will.
Vecna has a symbolic figure - 12 hours in the X dimension, the dial on the clock, the abduction of 12 children.
Will the eighth play its role? If we recall the Dnd game at the beginning of season 4, then Dustin Snalala rolled a die for 11, which is not enough to defeat Vekna, but Erica rolled 20, which hints at 20=11+8+1 . That is, 11 alone is not enough to defeat Vecna, the 8th will also connect and Will can (as a 001 power projector).
However, we were told in the new episodes that the 8th wants her and Odie to die, so it's unclear whether she'll play plus or minus.
Judging by the trailer for the finale, they will most likely be in Vecna's mind, where they will watch some events on the theater stage. So, most likely, the series will include the events of the play First Shadow, where they will tell more about the origin of Henry's powers and events during his school life. Perhaps there they will find his weakness in the face of Patty. But we'll find out very soon. 🙂
I hope the finale doesn't disappoint us and closes all the lines beautifully.
And my personal death prediction is that Mr. Clark will die (the promised cruel death), and either Will or Jonathan, who will save his brother and sacrifice himself. The eighth could be.
And HAPPY NEW YEAR to all!!
I've been immersed in the world of SD quite recently, but that time has been enough to feel terrible sadness that the series is ending. I can't imagine how those who have been watching since the first year of release:(
"Friends?" No thanks
-😳
- Best friends 😘
Kick-ass, what an emotional swing😂
And it's clear that this is too stupid a situation to kill one of the most popular characters, but tell that to my nearly stopped heart.💔
A short dialogue between Audie and Mike - great! If there were more of this, one could believe in their chemistry.
The military seemed to be smart for the first time in a long time - they found Clark and guessed about the radio station.
Mike and Will's short dialogue is great! The expected close moment after Will's confession.
Dustin has the same camouflage outfit as in the season four finale.
Why is there only One in the water, by the way? She searches so powerfully that she "took" Max and Eight with her into her mind.
Oh, we saw a young Joyce at school handing out flyers of her play. This is the actress from the production, and she looks a lot like Winona in her youth. Well, Steve's father is shown haha)
The contrast between the tension of the guys at the top of the tower and the guys at the performance is cool, the tension is felt. But the screen time of 30 seconds in the classics is never equal to 30 seconds in history)) But in general, it's a miracle that their plan with the top of the tower and the rapprochement went exactly as they planned. And that they were able to easily get into Dimension X. By the way, does this mean that X will change their DNA?
Ahhh, they trolled Steve's "death" beautifully! I sat with my mouth open and held my breath. Jonathan is a handsome man. I wonder how difficult it is in the real world to catch a person by the hand like that and pull them up?
The forces of the Eighth have finally begun to work. And a cool re-enactment of the "villain tells his plan" Cliche. And what, did Henry use his eighth grade to create an illusion of himself on the table?
The Steve and Jonathan moment is GREAT! And finally, Jonathan explains exactly that they broke up.
And here is the first meeting between Vecna and Hopper, the asshole immediately showed barrels of poison from Hop's youth (because of this, according to Hopper, his daughter died, inherited toxins). And the conversation is One and the Eighth. Vecna is super smart, of course, it turns out that he really screwed up the eighth's ability, deceived Hopper, and thus pulled the Odi out of his head. It's a sooo clever move and a well-shot moment.
The Hopper and Odie moment is great. A great Harbor game at this point.
Damn, the ending is GREAT so far. Even the moment of the kids running into the cave and Derek's desperate SUCK MY FAT ONE is creepy. Well, the actor playing Henry is extremely Good. And yes, dust particles from Dimension X (Abbys) in chemondanchik got into Henry, which is how it all started.
The military seems to have heard my whining about the fact that they are solid NPCs and started to really create trouble. BY the WAY, Hopper hid with Odie in the room from the military, going through the hole that Steve had previously punched, saving Nance and Jonathan. The short scene cut off the military - very good choreography, reminiscent of Joel's scene in the hospital and TLOU.
Murray is an absolute MVP, and even slow mo is filmed so cool that it takes your breath away. Odi - forcing a military man to shoot himself is creepy! And here's the first death, the Eighth... yes, it's a pity, the girl, but it seems like in 10 minutes we'll forget about her.
Audie and Hopper's second point is GREAT. They're sending us to death again, but I don't believe it.
It's good that Vekna was given depth - he's a villain, not because he's so evil, but because tragic fate and particles of Darkness used him as a vessel. Well, it overlapped with his vision of the world.
The Henry and Will moment is great! An incredible performance by both Actors.
A giant Spider in the desert is very cool. Odie's signature jump, her Eyelid match looks great, and so does the whole action (it just pulls Rambo-Nancy out of the dive again). And the return of Lucas' Slingshot))
And our Boy Will is saving the moment again! Great transition and what an epic moment. Excellent group work and child liberation. And Steve hugs Derek's little nuggets again))
Joyce is just like Thor chopping off Thanos' head. It's SUPER COOL that she was given such a moment. EPIC EPIC EPIC!!!! As I predicted in a couple of comments above, all the dead were honored with Flashbacks. Unexpectedly, Vecna was killed in the middle of the finale, and not at the end.
And bravo Duffers, bravo! They played on a double deception - they openly hinted at Odie's death, everyone is like that (and I) - noooo, it won't happen, and they DO it. The scene of Mike and Audie Lo crying, finally believing in their love for the first time. But they didn't show her body again, that means... Well, you get it. At the end, they will definitely give a hint that she survived.
18 months later..Steve is the coach of the youth team! Our guys graduated from high school. The moment of Hopper and Mike - to the point of tears.
Thank you for devoting almost half of the episode to showing how children (no longer children) live after. After all, it's because of the characters that we've come to love this series so much.
Dustin's speech is just 10 out of 10. And Iron Maiden is like a balm for the soul.
The scene on the roof of the radio station is also very touching.
Joyce and Hopper are cute.
The final DND touches right to the soul and casts tears. And a nice touch with an alternate history story about how Odie survived. So our guys grew up and went their separate ways, and they were replaced by a new generation.
Was the finale great? No, he's not just cool, he's REALLY COOL!
I wish you all a Happy New Year and good health to all of us and new cool TV series in the new year! And I hope to see you in the comments, discussing new masterpieces!
Thanks for the comments and retelling of the series!))
I totally agree!❤
Vecna did not use the Eighth Grade, he immediately knew how to make illusions, on the contrary, she inherited it from him.
in the fourth season, Max took Odie by the scruff of her neck into Vecna's mind, now the opposite is likely)
Еее, бэйби.
I started watching it in December 17, right after the release of season 2, and fell in love. There are few TV shows now that catch on so much.
Thanks to the Duffers.
I hope there will be more projects in this universe.
Enjoy watching it, everyone.
Happy stranger thing new year!
Well, now let's check out the cons.
- the final battle. as for me, it was too short (there was no tension and there was no feeling that one of the characters might not survive it, except that Nancy at some point when she was trapped in a rock, but no more
- in general, the lack of tension, but I think that this disadvantage rather comes from the fact that the Duffers promised in interviews that they would have "the toughest bloody ending," but it turned out that it was generally not cruel (even emotionally) and not bloody either, although chopping off the head of a monster in front of 12 small children It's strong... Perhaps the most intense scenes in the entire series were Hopper's actions and how he thought he had killed 11 and Steve's "fall".
- actually, I can't decide yet how I feel about the ending of Odi, that is, I literally can't figure out whether I believe it or not, on the one hand, it's logical that Mike explained that there were things to block forces and Odi had to be twisted, plus the scene with the dying Callie, where we seem to be intentionally left behind the shot shows Hopper going to get a backpack, but at the same time, would Callie really have reached out? and she's bleeding so much there that it's a question of whether it was even possible to live there... plus, I specifically watched the scene with Odie's disappearance, they DON'T SHOW us the jammers normally, as if on purpose, but at least one car has a man standing on top of it to drive it, it's just a question of whether we believe Mike's memories from graduation, where he thought about the jammers?
and now to the questions that I understand were left to the viewer so that these discussions would never end (or they still made holes open), I would be glad if some of them had already been answered and you could tell me if I missed it.
- why couldn't the torturer exist without his physical body? when he first met Henry, he was in the form of a cloud with tentacles (as it was in Will's knowledge at some point), did he really die along with cardiac arrest? and also, where did the black smoke coming out of the children fly away after they woke up?
- plus, the plot of the production and the plot of the series regarding Henry don't seem to work out a bit, unless, of course, we still take the production as canon, why when Henry first got into the wrong side (from previous seasons, where there were flashbacks of how Odie put him there) he did not know the torturer and did not know this place, if, according to the staging, he had already been there in the end.
"Who was that scientist in the cave?" Who was he afraid of? Where did he get a piece of stone from another dimension at that time? I would like to find out this in the series itself, it was already clear that we would not have time to reveal it, but I wanted to (
- how did Brenard draw a diagram of the dimensions and the underside, if in the first season they hardly let people in there and they immediately thought the demogorgans were eaten, and plus how did Brenard find out what was behind the wall of the underside, is there really a hole already punched somewhere there?
- well, in small things, what happened to the parents Derek? It's clear that everything is probably OK with them, but they didn't give it to them.
- how did our heroes justify killing a bunch of military men? and did the military just let them go after the disappearance of Odi and the killing of so many people? It's kind of a rofl, not the military, to be honest, and they're like that the whole series
but still) summing up, yes, I see a huge number of cons and questions, and there are clearly more of them than I wrote, if I remember more, but still it's a good story about love, friendship and growing up, and most importantly - my favorite characters are happy (Steve, Dustin and Jonathan) and they live my best life, and Jonathan and Steve became friends after all, I've been waiting for this moment for a long time.
Thanks for this story.
@lkostikova: well, regarding the production, I'm based on a fandom site (similar to fandom Wikipedia, I've already had a comment deleted for a link once, so I won't attach it) here's a clipping from there
However, one of the employees of the military base in Nevada was a spy for the Soviet Union. They managed to escape by stealing important technology and transporting it to a cave in Nevada. At the time, 8-year-old Henry and the Creel family lived nearby in Rachel, Nevada. While exploring caves in Nevada and playing with a spyglass, Henry stumbled upon stolen technology that suddenly activated and transported him to the Abyss.
That's why I understand he's been there before, and I thought he'd seen it.
The point really wasn't the war with the age, the age was the engine of real processes within history)
Without negativity, I just watched the whole story for the finale in a week and realized what the Duffers wanted to say. They created a fairy tale of the decade, as for the last generation - a fairy tale about GP, and for the past - the Lord of the Rings. But this is conditional :)
For example, it may be a mother's dying condition, or a bank that takes away the last home from the family, or addiction to some substances that began at school, but already strongly affects an adult.
Take, for example, drug addiction. He started using alcohol at school in season 1, and by season 4 it had become a "Universal evil" for him that threatens his life. So this is the main test.
Season 5 begins. Suddenly, the "plot defense" is triggered - we realize at the beginning of the season that this "drug" is not so strong. And in the last episode, GG just throws a bag and says: I won't use it anymore. It's that simple. A serious test, which was supposed to symbolize "growing up" and the difficulty of choosing, turns out to be passable and even easy.
That is, somewhere in this place, in my opinion, the drama of the series broke down.
the death of childhood. We have already played dragons and dungeons, we are putting our books on the shelf for the last time, we have defeated Vecna and the door to this world is now closed for us forever.
I think that's the crux of the series' tragedy. As it is, they just started changing the plot vector from season 2, given that the project was not designed for so many seasons. And the cartoonishness was preserved just for the "kindness" of the story, as for children. The gift is like this :)
(All this is my interpretation, I'm not fighting as a fact)
Let's just say, thanks for finishing it in time.
This is a bit like the version that the whole series is like a big D&D party: the first scene is the beginning of the game, the last is its conclusion. Although, if taken literally, it looks a bit simple — it looks like the explanation "it was all a dream."
You can go further and look at everything as the characters look at their own childhood, that is, how hostile they perceived the world around them in seasons 1-4.
By the end of the fourth season, they have accumulated anxiety and fear of the future — that's why it feels so dark and tense.
And in the fifth season, they finally start talking about the future, arguing, choosing what's important to them. And with that, the tension seems to subside.: fear gradually forms into solutions.
Then Vecna also works as a metaphor:
he is scary as long as they are afraid of the future and do not understand who they are and where they will go.
And when they make a choice and reveal at least a little bit what will happen next, the Secret loses some of its power. Because the fear of growing up ceases to be formless.
In general, I like something like that) Thanks for the version (I hope I understood it correctly)
She brightened up the bitterness of the season for me a little. 😅
This, of course, does not negate the fact that at the end of the 4th season, the climax in the 5th was obvious (exactly in the style of the rest of the seasons)
But this does not cancel the comment you are commenting under. The final battle didn't really put the squeeze on. Considering that the series is based on the classics of the 80s, I personally really missed that something went wrong at the last minute, but they would have done it anyway a second before.
And then we have El, who appeared, beat up Vecna, and the rest of the characters came up with a super plan that *immediately succeeded*. Really, the only complaint about the finale. Otherwise, everything is cool.
Many people here write something like "What did you need a bunch of deaths for?". But for me, it's not about the deaths, but about the tension and difficulty of the heroes' trials.
For four seasons, the threat grew, and in the finale of season 4, it became something already catastrophic (They couldn't contain it, the Wrong Side broke through).
And in the fifth season, this "test" turned into a zilch.
Because of this, I personally did not experience catharsis from season 5. That is, for me, the guys did not overcome this test, but it seemed to dissolve by itself. Hence the bitterness of the final battle. Vecna just became a buffoon this season.
I generally expected that almost every character would have a mental struggle with Vecna. She won't just run through his mind, but will struggle with his manipulations in the style of Freddy Krueger's dreams. Like in season four, he got into people's heads.
Many have noted that the scene where Henry tricked Hopper into shooting into a tank of water is one of the best. But it looks even more advantageous in such a "toothless" season. I was just thinking that the season would be filled with such scenes.
> Really, the only complaint about the ending.
I would also add the acting. But I tend to think that it's not about them, but about the "clumsily" written characters.. Because too many people are playing worse this season.
And the interpretation above smooths out for me a little what I felt from season 5.
Soldier: Mac, tis is Wolfpack, do you copy?
Me after a tough ARC Raiders extraction: btch how dare you
Emotions are mixed from the finale...
it felt like I was going to die from... or as a fifth grader who is from... or high school students.
And of course, without a happy ending.
Everyone is alive and well, even Max has miraculously recovered completely.
The ending is like a Disney fairy tale)
It turns out that "Welcome to Derry" can be considered a masterpiece compared to the last season of the OSD.
I don't have a goal to shit the season and the finale, but it's really a complete disappointment...
Why are you constantly comparing them? Besides, only the first season was released there. And he basically works in a different way and puts emphasis on other things.
So it's quite appropriate to compare.
As a result, the series are very different in spirit, atmosphere, even in structure, as far as I remember, Derry will not have any lasting story, but there will be seasons at different time points.
Not to mention that comparing the final season and the first season is also strange.
It's so stupid to merge the main antagonists that the battle with demogorgon in the early seasons was even more epic.
and make the main villains military, how cliched and boring
P.S. We expected anything from Kali, but not such a drain that hopper just left her on
the floor. p.s. The range of Eleven's emotions in this series, in comparison with the flashbacks shown, deserves a special mention
Steve has certainly made a mega growth as a character and as a hero.
The eighth one wants death so much, and most likely it will be so.
But I don't believe in Elle's death, I want her to be saved and she deserves it.
I wouldn't be surprised if Will becomes the final nail for the crown and sacrifices himself...
In general, it is not clear what the military was for, the timing of the entire season was not enough, some characters did not communicate with each other for all eight episodes, although this had not happened before. The abundance of characters and storylines makes it difficult to properly reveal all the characters. Thanks, though, for the almost 40-minute flash forward, where they told me what happened to the characters and who moved where, I'm always interested in such projects, what happens to the characters.
Thanks to Netflix for not closing the series, but letting the writers finish it, the first couple of seasons of the show were great.
And the final two scenes, where the main characters, and then the younger generation, play DnD, are also well done. It was very cool.
These are the screams that my neighbors could hear. Because it's known that it's after these guys' DND game that all sorts of shit starts happening in Hawkins.😅
However, nothing new
Plus, again, writing the first season of the series and writing the fifth and final seasons are generally a bit different.
But as you wish, if you really want, you can of course compare)
I actually really enjoyed the first season of Derry)
I'm just shocked that these people somehow made two such great first seasons. Have someone's ideas been stolen 😂
So yes, it's a pity that they leaked everything like that, for me now the whole series is unreleased, because it will hurt to see the first seasons and remember what garbage they turned everything into.
The third one, by the way, was great at the same time and looked like the final one. If Netflix had announced the end of the series, there would have been no questions. But looking at the quality of season 4, you turn a blind eye to it.
To be honest, I think some people overestimate their bets and expectations. And they also can't accept that things don't always work out perfectly for everyone, and that doesn't mean that you should immediately go on a wild rampage and vilify the creators.
But of course, this is just my opinion, nothing more.
In general, with so many viewers, of course, not everyone will like it. And that's okay. Not to please everyone :)
The most important question is, WHERE did Will's connection with Vecna and MF suddenly disappear to, why didn't he have anything when they were being killed, if he used to cringe at everything that happened to them?! I joked about the hatchet Joyce was carrying, which would be like killing Thanos.… I WAS JUST KIDDING. Absolutely no Mike and Al line, who haven't had any deep scenes together in the last two seasons at all, and here they were just trying to squeeze the tears out of nothing. There are a lot of moments for claims, we need to digest and then I'll probably come back to yell more, but for now… Thank you for the wonderful story, it's a pity that I want to erase the last season from my memory.
I thought that this was the dramatic end, that by killing Vecna, everyone would rejoice and later discover that Will was dead too, because he was connected to him, or at least they would show us some kind of dilemma, saying yes, you can kill this universal evil, but you have to sacrifice your friend to do it.. But apparently not that series.
@K2isOn: The beginning of the new year started so well and at the same time it was so disappointing because of such an ending. I didn't get carried away with fan-driven crazy theories either, fortunately, otherwise it would have torn me apart even more, but in my head the ending seemed different, completely different. So much was pumped up by the Duffers themselves, the cast itself, and in the end, and in the end N-I-H-U-Ya. I can forgive everything, but to merge the entire narrative of Vekna as a villain in such a mediocre way, of course, it took a lot of effort. Even this pathetic scene with Joyce, who blows Vecna's head with an axe with flashbacks in the background, probably to "punch" the viewer's emotions, I personally laughed hysterically, until the last moment I thought it was some kind of surreality and illusion, but no. And, by the way, I haven't seen so many flashbacks in a movie for a long time, but okay, let's put it down to taking up the timing and being nostalgic for the audience. BUT I'd like to say thank you anyway, it was a fascinating 10-year-long attraction! The first 3 seasons literally gave me goosebumps and a brain explosion, season 4 is also quite good, and I will definitely review the first seasons, but I really want to erase the fifth one from my memory, even despite such a sterile, cute and too happy happy ending.
That each of them is chained to the vessels of the Abyss,
and their world is just a projection created by a monster.
They laugh, cry, breathe…
But they don't live.
Another finale of a good series…
Everything was heading towards something real, but in the end — a happy ending.
Sometimes it seems that the scriptwriters are afraid to leave us in silence.
Although I've been drowning since the second season for the fact that in the end the last scene will be 10-year-old guys who finished the game in DND (
I wish you all a Happy New Year and good health to all of us and new cool TV series in the new year! And I hope to see you in the comments, discussing new masterpieces!
a great series whose characters will stay with us for a long time.
What an action, mmm, when GG doesn't have scratches.
What an epic, mmm, when they just dump the antagonist, his army (it just didn't come), his general, the military.
When there are CENTURIES in the MIND (!) The ten-year-old (!!) overpowered VECNA'S TENTACLES AND PULLED THE VICTIM OUT OF THEM (!!!!!!!!!!!!).
Action: Tower scene / Vecna vs Hopper / Hopper vs Military / Odie vs Henry / Escape of children / Group vs Spider / Helicopter explosion / final hurricane scene
Epic: The final battle against Vecna, Joyce, chopping off Vecna's head like Thor, Dustin's speech and the last game of DND, the sacrifice of Odi
In short, everything this season is kind of far-fetched.…
I'm thrilled that they added a song by Iron Maiden, my favorite band.
And of course I want more TV series based on this universe. 👍
There are also questions about Will, why he didn't feel bad from the murder of Vecna/MF/UD, because he is directly connected with them. I need to reconsider, maybe I didn't see the answer emotionally.
I don't see anything illogical in the battle with Vecna. If two or four hunters attack a grizzly without proper training, they can grab a cradle, but if a dozen trained fighters with weapons attack, they will kill the bear.
I would like to thank the creators for living Steve and for Dustin's graduation speech.
I guess if I start reviewing, I'll keep the season 4 finale for myself.
THE HELL CLUB IS ALIVE
Here's the finale, and everything is fine, I'm happy for everyone, but at the same time it's so strange and unnatural......
And the stupidest thing is that after this lengthy speech, he is supported not only by his friends, but also by other graduates.
Some of the scenes in the epilogue were a little awkward. But just the strongest respect for the last D&D scene! It turned out very organically, emotionally, the line between the actors and their characters was blurred. I got high from the bottom of my heart.
The only big disappointment is the lack of explanation of the watch. There were so many interesting theories about them, but in the end it was just a sound effect? Maybe I missed something and it will become clearer when I look at it again.
But in general, it's an awesome 5+ series, I will definitely review it and be nostalgic with pleasure!
What's really confusing is that the show already had everything it needed. The villains were introduced, the mythology was deep, the audience was engaged. The finale was just supposed to live up to expectations. Instead, he turned out to be cautious.
Is this really the best ending for the writers after all the seasons? The hype around him now seems offensive. We were told that this script made the actors cry, but everything is learned in comparison, and the series "Welcome to Derry" is just a few heads above the fifth season.
I love good endings, but as if a realistic ending with loss and suffering would be more appropriate here. On the other hand, the heroes have suffered enough, lost many, but still something is off here...
The enormity that I had hoped for did not happen. Perhaps I overestimated my expectations myself, but the feeling of understatement and falseness still remained.
Vecna looks especially strange. For the whole season, he basically did nothing, hid the children and that's it. That's too little for the main antagonist of the finale. The inside was also disappointing, they were afraid to enter there before, there were no creatures left, they just walk around like at a resort and drag their parents.
I like good, bright endings, but here, oddly enough, a finale with losses and pain would look more honest.
I basically can't imagine a battle with the final boss without casualties. When everything is at stake, and everyone comes out almost unscathed, the feeling of a real threat and the price of victory disappears.
They promised to explain, but they didn't. I've lost all logic. As Professor Preobrazhensky used to say, "Excuse me, who was standing on whom?"
They promised to finish all the lines, but they just got confused. Is the eleventh dead or alive? Is Kali dead or alive? Why didn't Nancy choose between Steve and Jonathan as a result? What happened to pregnant women? If Will fucked Mike for three seasons, but ended up finding another lover in season 5, then what the fuck was his coming out? I don't mind, but in the wonderful season 3, Robin's coming out was already perfectly thought up and played! Why produce unsuccessful repetitions?
Do we have fiction or mysticism? If the Torturer of the Mind is some kind of entity from a parallel world / universe, then why does he look like a dragon from fairy tales or a spider Shelob from the Lord of the Rings? Moreover, it was a great idea in season 2 - the visual dust effect. And if not, then why is this Torturer needed at all!! We have a great villain - Henry Krill or Vecna from the game! Isn't it enough to fight him? And what the hell is a wormhole? Is it like in science, a portal between spaces in a black hole? Then why didn't Hawkins get blown to hell upon contact with him? And why is there a spider crawling out of this wormhole?
Why is Henry all disfigured and turned into a monster, but Will, who is also a torturer, is not? And the Eleventh One wasn't hurt in any way, even though she was walking on that Wrong Side all the time?
Just a thousand questions after the season!
Season 1 - King fiction (experiments on children, the appearance of another dimension and monsters from there),
Season 2 - adventure fiction, Ghostbusters (another dimension is the Underside of our world and evil is trying to get into our dimension from there),
Season 3 is ironic fiction, like Star Wars, fun and scary (evil from another dimension is generated by humans and can massively affect people),
season 4 is mysticism and horror (evil from another dimension is trying to use people to gain strength, break down the wall between dimensions and destroy our world)...
And suddenly 5 The season! At first, there was a mix of styles - suddenly there was no fiction, no mysticism, but some kind of superhero comic, where the Eleventh flies in superman's leggings, which just as unexpectedly turns into a melodrama, where everyone continuously admits mistakes to each other and cries! And even when they say something good, they still confess and cry. Some kind of endless cuming-out! And it's a complete mess. What does a wormhole have to do with it? Where did the "snow-covered" underside go? A portal not to a parallel world, but to where?
I want to get the Duffer brothers to redo the whole damn season 5 and re-show it next year.
Why didn't they all go to jail for murdering the military?
What happened to the Papa project? The Mind flayer ended up in a rock, but nevertheless the children spewed out a black essence. Where did she go? We didn't take the handlebars, but it's easy to impale. And what does this whole spider have to do with this wormhole?
And in the scene with Nancy and Jonathan, where *spoiler* they almost got stuck in the substance, and it solidified. How did her legs, which were all in her, harden?
All in all, it's good, but the build—up before the finale gave birth to many of the coolest theories that would be written into history, and as a result, the real development of events caused slight confusion with a hint of, but where's the catch?
Probably if they had released all the episodes at once, there would have been fewer overblown theories before the finale and fewer expectations. As it was, we didn't get any drama—the duffers didn't dare to kill any of the good characters. It turned out to be a bright fairy tale with a touching ending. Considering how much tin there is in the world, I don't mind that, it's a pity to part with the heroes.
I liked the moment where Vecna fooled Hopper, it was just beautiful and unexpected, I was led)
PS. I believe!
there are already two
And the fact that he was defeated so quickly, well, it's not a problem at all. Odie had been stronger than him before. Previously, he had only managed to break mentally unstable children, and Eleven was mentally and physically ready for battle.
A battle with the Torturer? Well, the graphon was terrible. But all these weapons were a reference to other seasons. Lucas with his slingshot, Nancy with a machine gun, Robin with a Molotov cocktail. Jonathan is no longer with a lighter, as in the first season, but with a flamethrower. Joyce finally used the axe she had been waiting for Demogorgan with back in the first season.
And honestly, I didn't believe that the Duffers would kill anyone. They never had the guts to do that. It's still a series based on movie tropes from the 80s, and it always ended well.
And yes, a joke from Max about the happy ending is like a response to the audience. It's all corny, but it's not necessary to make a bloody mess in the finale, as many people wanted. The heroes have suffered enough, they deserve to be happy.
Yes, there are still questions. And for some, the ending remained open. Perhaps in a few years Nancy will still get together with Jonathan or Steve. Who knows how things will go there if they all continue to see each other like they promised. Perhaps Mike's assumptions are correct, and Audie is really alive, and someday the company will meet again.
The ending is not the worst possible one. It was an interesting journey. Many of the final problems stemmed from the illogicalities of previous seasons. And, yes, the Duffers are not geniuses and never have been. As a result, we have what we have
They're just pretty soulful men, which is evident from the series.
The final wasn't a complete failure, it was normal, but I wanted more - last season was very good, the stakes were raised, and everything turned out too simply. This season didn't have the atmosphere of stranger things at all, the plot and the actors are the same, but something is not so interesting to watch anymore. And the finale is similar to the end of the first season, in general, there are no special emotions.
. Yes, not everything ended the way I would have liked, but what can I do
after everything that has happened in recent days (all these theories, accusations, etc.), I think the story ended well, it could have been much worse, it could have been a lot of deaths, and all that (in fact, only Kali died, I'm not confusing anything, am I? hph)
and so, as if everything was even good, and I want to believe that Audie still survived, and I will believe in it
, of course, we never saw Bailer, but again, I say, everything could have been worse (there was a little queerbating, but as if still it was expected)
it's a shame that they didn't mention Suisi in any way (
I'm glad for Hopper and Joyce (they've already earned their happiness!)
Lumax are just the best (I still remember them as kids, but here "you look super sexy", the guys have grown up, hmm)
and Nancy, Jonathan, Steve and Robin have grown up even more - everyone is so grown-up, official, it's unusual to see them like this, but I'm glad that they all remained on good friendly terms (by the way, where is Vicky, did I miss it or what?)
I'm glad that Murray and Mr. Clark also showed a glimpse (just a question of how friends or...?)
in general, in my opinion I think this ending is good, I don't know anything,
hph, maybe I'll add something later, but so far the emotions from watching are exactly like that
Although, of course, it's a pity that they weren't shown. At least in a moment with the military.
But there was a lot of wonderful Robin)
Parallel to the beginning of the season, where she returned to the microphone to give us a brief summary after the timeskip...🥹
The children, as it turned out, were not brainwashed, but simply under the Stockholm syndrome. To be honest, their fight with Holly earlier looks terrible against this background.
The fan theory about controlling the Mind Torturer was better than symbiosis with him. This unfinished spider was beaten unrealistically from the outside. Fire-even considering the size of this carcass, it was still a good idea, but bullets? Rambo-Nancy obviously messed up badly, I wouldn't take her on a raid)
Everything was done in fact in an hour, with minimal losses (the 8th would have remained Inside out anyway). How we were treated to Steve's death!
In the end, the military remained cannon fodder. The Duffers somehow forgot about the Inside-out base with staff and pregnant women.
The best thing about the finale is the rooftop scene with the older generation. Of course, due to my similar age, the separation of friends due to moving, work, etc. stuck with me the most...
It was absolutely logical to end the series with a party in the DnD. The final twist, like Schrodinger's cat, added spice to the 40-minute epilogue, but it lacked Mike next to Odie. The new generation of players was pleased, even the spinoff would have been watched with them - after all, for once the newcomers to the franchise were well exposed, even the MCU can't do that)
To sum up, the ending turned out too much... Is it simple? I've been waiting for a trick for two hours, but it didn't seem to happen, except for the final guess.
He lost the whole world and the future he was building with her. Now he would have to live with the idea that she might still be alive and he would never see her. But at least she's not a test subject anymore and can just enjoy life-that thought is better than if she sacrificed herself and she's gone.
Listen, maybe I'm not being objective because I've been watching this story for almost ten years. That's probably why I wanted everything to end well for everyone, and I got it.
Yes, the ending is not perfect, and the season as a whole turned out to be uneven, but there will always be a place for this story in my heart of a serial lover, despite all the disadvantages)
By the way, the photo shows the best team that has gathered in all seasons of the OSD)
Also with this series from the very beginning!
And it pains me to read all these hateful comments...
It seems to me that over time people will calm down and accept this ending)
For some reason, everyone misses the point that expectations were born not from scratch, but from interviews with Duffers who promised to "Prepare for losses," but in the end we have what we have.
Now, even without cutting out the characters in the series, there is enough tension in life. I agree with the comment above that the Duffers were inspired by old movies where there were usually no bad endings. Good defeated evil, and that was it. Therefore, such an ending for a series inspired by those films is the most correct one for me.
I'm happy for all the guys and I'm grateful to the authors that they kept our hearts intact.
For me personally, his "trick" is a combination of lamp atmosphere and elements of fantasy / horror.
Horror is not just "horror stories", but part of the rules of this world and a way to enhance the emotions of victory, enhance the lampiness in contrast. I don't mind it getting smaller, but then I want it to happen logically, and not because of someone's whim.
That's why it's so strange that the threat of season 4 was gradually escalated to us, a frightening antagonist was built — and in the finale the genre abruptly turns almost into a fairy tale, where even small children run away from the antagonist in his own mind - this breaks the "rules". At some point, it feels like you're watching a different series.
And it's not even about the deaths. The main characters have never died in the series. They were always minor/minor/NPC characters. Yes, we've come to love some of them.
But that's how they often create drama in their works.: It's not always death, but it's just the difficulties that people face, overcome, live through, and grow above themselves.. or they break down..
And then the feeling of a certain vulnerability of the heroes disappeared — despite the fact that, logically, this should have been the darkest and most intense battle. (The mock "battle for Hogwarts")
Personally, the ideal option would be for me to
show the whole season in early December - a darker one (without deaths, but with a still strong antagonist),
and for the New Year — a separate, bright episode (maybe even out of season) about "what happened next"
Yes, there wasn't enough heat in the final battle. At least Vecna would have started the descent again somehow, or the spider would have "eaten" someone, but then they would have saved him from his stomach. Yes, it was very likely that someone like Murray would sacrifice himself to launch a bomb. Or the same evil military would have seen the light and sacrificed herself.
But these are all quibbles. Overall— it's a thrill!
It was sad-beautiful.
Now I just want to wish good luck to the Duffers, because the haters will hate...
With El disappearing into the car, I really thought that Kali had helped, because how could she disappear from sight like that? So I believe that Al stayed here.
They both died. 99%
despite the previous episodes and the lack of faith that you can finish everything in two hours, the Duffers were able to
Yes, maybe it wasn't perfect somewhere, but there was still a lack of character development (yes, Joyce? she just cut off her head at the end, which any other character could have done at that moment), they never showed Susie, and Robin's friend didn't really show herself either, although they took a cool actress, but they didn't reveal
her love for Mike and remained a secret.
but
I liked that even though Holly had previously tried to justify Henry (that it was he who was shot at, he had to become bad), in the end, the villain was not whitewashed
, they showed that he had no motivation to resist, but Will, for example, had
further, I liked how not only did Odie kill Vecna
, EVERYONE did it, absolutely everyone contributed
Nancy, as always a crush, ran into the thick of it
with the deaths of all the main characters, the Duffers were terribly busy
, but the lazy one didn't think that they would merge Kali, that officer
also had photos from the set where Hopper was talking to Mike, and Steve was coming to pick up Dustin, so there was a little understanding that yes, how it would be (although the heart skipped a beat at the moment with Steve's fall, and even how)
and they didn't put the squeeze on El, but I'm even glad
. I think she deserved to stay alive, and I don't think this is Mike's guess, because there was a fat hint at the prom that he was right
, unfortunately, she had to leave everyone so that others could live
(by the way, Dustin blew up the prom!! Our boy!! Do I understand correctly that the girl who ignored him at the ball approached him?)
also, a more mature group has found itself
, in my opinion, all the roles are organic
for Steve, for example, coaching with children was invented
and this is a 100% hit.
Even though everyone leaves Hawkins (and it's not like in Derry, where everyone forgets each other), it's cool that they agree not to lose contact
, and after that, you're really tied up for life.
well, the last words about the game
ended with the beginning
of generation after generation, just like in life
, the moment when everyone put the books on the shelf and walked out the door was the saddest for
me, and I myself felt like I was 'walking out' of that door, saying goodbye not only to the series, but also to childhood After all, I started watching the project back in 2017, as a teenager
Thank you, it was good.
I wish I could see everyone in the basement at the same table again and even through the screen, but join the game
Are you talking about his flashback? And why is this a hint that he's right?
I also adhere to this version, but I want to strengthen it in my head somehow.
, but it seemed that way to me, because there was already a situation where El disappeared, but Mike believed, felt that she was alive, and so it turned out.
But most importantly, El couldn't use her powers at the time of their last conversation with Mike, given that the military was blocking her powers, which means she was beyond this 'lockdown'
and I think, yes, he heard a sound at graduation, which helped him understand this.
, even in desperation with Hopper, they let him survive.
The story of believing:
Good conquers evil
They didn't show us if Kali was dead, they showed her from the outside without any confirmation.
We don't know the full potential of the Eighth
's capabilities, and there are quite a few logical holes in the series.
It's just that the jammers seem to work over a long distance.
+ I saw something else:
a truck with jammers arrives, Odie is taken out, but she abruptly disappears and appears Inside out, how?
further, they say that Odie did not have a nosebleed when using powers and tattoo 011, which suggests that it was an illusion
But of course, everyone believes in what they want
, and that's the whole fun of the 'double' ending
for me, Mike the narrator.
And as he admitted at the end, he's like a storyteller withholding some part.
And with the jammers running, she couldn't really move at all.
I don't understand its ending the most.
it's a cool reference to the fact that she wasn't interested in Dustin before, but now it's the other way around.
(but where the hell is Susie? Long-distance relationships are complicated, we believe
but the actors weren't in the same frame for the whole series..)
Очень предсказуемые дела
I forgive everything for them.
When "The Trooper" from The Maidens played at the graduation ceremony, I almost screamed with delight, remember about Eddie.
And beautifully looped.
And thank you for not daring to kill anyone from the main caste.
In the end, it was a great story.
I'm going to review the first season :)
awesome style
and so many key moments for all seasons, we remembered about the old characters
in total 10/10
An indistinct "rcn". I thought they'd get better now. I've been waiting for the last half hour, that after these pink snot, they would show how they were ALL dead and remained only in Anna's mind. That would be the best ending.
Fuck, fuck, fuck
Visual effects are crap. The actors' acting is crap. The cut-out pieces are crap.
They didn't even play the scene with the rescue of the children and the murder of Vecna. This is the most terrifying scene. Even Winona has zero emotions. It's just that the PO (hours) have come to work, that's crap.
They believed too much in the scriptwriters, expecting shock and some kind of emotions, but they got a Disney fairy tale.
Ugh.
Let it be in other projects, but not here. There is enough HYERY in life, let the tears be only from the warm memories of watching the project, and not from the cruel deaths of the main characters.
Will I miss the next giant of TV series projects, which now seem to be gone?
The series has great action, but I liked the dialogues between Steve and Jonathan, Hopper and Odie to tears, Hopper and Mike more. I think we expected more from Vecna, but what do we have.
I've been watching this series since the release of the first season (and those were the days when Netflix began to drown in finished seasons without any rotations at the end), and it's been a long journey. I wasn't expecting any violent deaths or hopelessness in the finale, although the creators were clearly flirting with the audience on this topic. I'm happy with everything, even the prolonged epilogue, I could watch even longer, just because I like these characters.
If in the first half of the episode I still took out, despite some of the broken expectations. The same Torturer of the Mind, who, it turns out, needed Henry just as much as Henry needed him, contradicts the canonical play The First Shadow, which showed that he had greatly damaged Henry's psyche and that was why these were very traumatic memories for Henry, and not because the Torturer did not let him in there. I wrote that I didn't want Henry to be on the good side... Well, I take it back, so his arch turned out to be at least more logical.
Thanks at least for Jamie Campbell Bower, he did an amazing job playing Henry.
The second half of the episode looks like a separate piece sewn on, as if the Duffers saw that the fans had guessed a lot of things and decided to hastily reshoot everything, or so Netflix wanted (given the scandal with the cuts in the series, I wouldn't be surprised). Okay, the moment with El and the waterfalls, Mike's pov was there, so everything was so vivid, but the rest of the vanilla happy ending moments were so foreign that I really thought the plan had failed, and they were actually locked in Vecna's mind. There was also the moment with Mike and the speakers that fit so well into it... the
ending, where Mike says in plain text that sometimes a happy ending is just a happy ending when Max attacks that he looks like a bad storyteller – screenwriters, Netflix and Duffers, do you want to spit in the viewer's face? A pathetic attempt to live up to broken expectations.
I would like to note that I am not a fan of believing fan theories, fans often suffer from SPGS and unreasonably blame the authors when something is not justified. In this case, I was also ready to defend the Duffers, but, sorry, it would have been better if even the craziest fan theories had turned out to be true, rather than what we got.
I will still recommend watching the series, because 4.5 seasons gave us amazing emotions. In the end, something went wrong, what exactly, the fear of the red-black office to go down a bold path or the fatigue of the scriptwriters, who were forced to shoot more seasons than they wanted – we will never know.
As expected, the monsters were defeated by the friendship and mutual assistance of the main characters.
Since my childhood was spent in the mid-80s, I liked the series from the very beginning - friends, bicycles, slingshots, a homemade "fortress" in the forest, that is, it all reminded me of those years when the world around was beautiful, parents were young, the grass was greener, the water tastier, etc.
What the creators decided was the second I think it's very reasonable to devote half the episode to a time leap and a description of the characters' lives after the battle with evil. Graduation at school, breakups, rare meetings of friends, a new generation of D&D players – it was hardly possible to come up with a better ending. The series is definitely in the collection for future repeat viewings. Thank you to all the creators for all these years spent together.
By the way, has anyone figured out exactly where Nancy got a job? I feel like it's a rumor of something, but it hasn't sunk in...
in general, she predicted all deaths. it was expected. Unless it turned out to be a deception with el.. unexpected. I am very glad that she is still alive and will live a peaceful life. It's a pity that she's far from her loved ones, but I hope she finds her peace and happiness.
There are so many thoughts in my head that I don't even know where to start..
Kali, after all, was not a traitor. honestly, I didn't fully understand why it was introduced anyway.. to help in the end, el? hd, as if she wasn't particularly helpful this season..
The way Vecna tricked both Hopper and me.. showing that the shots hit Jane was tough.
I was scared for Steve, but I still had thoughts that I might have died. what a relief it was when Jonathan saved him :.) although I thought that the scene from the trailer where Dustin screams was related to his death. And it's GOOD that it's not!
Overall, I want to say that I enjoyed the conversation between Jonathan and Steve. It's nice that they opened up to each other and were able to find a common language. And that Steve also decided to let Nancy go!
The battle with the spider was dynamic. For a second, it seemed that Nancy was dead..
Joyce Sila 💪🏻 ended it all by taking revenge for all the horror!
Speaking of Henry.. at the moment with the memories, I even felt sorry for him. but, thanks to the duffers, they left him as a villain, and did not change his shoes into an assistant to the main characters. otherwise.. It would have been a fiasco
, but the only thing I didn't understand was what the production was for if it didn't play a huge role in the series itself anyway. for some reason, I expected some kind of disclosure.. but no.
Derek became a sweetheart. He waved so sweetly at Mike in the car. :I love it! I was very worried about him during the chase. It seemed that Henry was about to catch up and grab him.
@velevas: However, it was ** spoken out and shown** at the end, so this option is possible.
There were so many incredible theories about how the series would end. But it ended simply and sincerely. It ended with what it started with - how the guys play DnD. Maybe I wanted more action, but I'm fine with that. It's a pity to say goodbye to the series, but no one canceled the next revision.
but, this is literally the weakest episode of the season..and there is no feeling that this is the final, there are no words...
so!!!TO FUCK UP THE FINAL EPISODE, it was necessary to try. literally, the beginning of the season was great, and then it just sank to the bottom.
Yes, I do not dispute that there were good moments, but for the finale of such a cult series, this is literally nothing.
I'm disappointed that they couldn't even kill Odie, even though her death is more than logical.
However, it took longer to get to Vecna than to kill him, this is generally a meme, stupidity and draining of such an antagonist))
why wasn't they properly explained for a man with a suitcase and a cobblestone?!
WHERE'S SUSIE? WHERE ARE THE DEMOGORGANS AND DEMOPS?
WHY SEASON 4 WAS AN ASS DUMP, AND SEASON 5, ahem,
everything is too easy, I expected that I would cry like I wasn't myself, but I never expected such disappointment..trash
The scene on the roof of the Scream is soulful, it's really cool how Steve, Robin, Nancy and Jonathan became friends! Dustin's graduation speech was awesome, and the way Steve supported him, wow, I loved
the way Joyce chopped off my head, it was really cool!
The point was squeezed when Steve almost fell off the tower and Jonathan pulled him out.
but the way the relationship between Will and Mike was leaked is also a hand in the face. They had such a dry conversation in private.
Why was Mike and Odie kissing at all? if it was literally clear from them that they were friends. It feels like, thanks to Netflix, the finale is so funny..I really wanted to believe that at least one series would end decently, but "we don't fucking want to" 💅
Hence the main aftertaste: it seems to be the end of the world on the screen, but inside there is a feeling that the series blinked at the last moment and chose to "spare its own". Yes, there is one real loss (and it looks like the only bet that the show really decided to pay to the end).
That's why many fan theories/montages really seem bolder.: the risk is higher there, which means that the emotion is more honest.
But “graduation” is a direct hit point. In contrast to the noisy final batch, this part works as a quiet human decoupling.: not a "wow turn", but a warm closing of childhood and this whole era.❤️
I'm going to miss the series!
Anyway, they're going to make a spin-off about these kids, which will feature Holly, Derek and the rest, and they didn't just shoot this scene where they start playing "Dungeons and Dragons" at the end. And the second spin-off will probably be a direct sequel, the events of which will develop in the 90s or 00s. I don't want such a continuation of a well-concluded series, but on the one hand, I kind of want to watch (yes, I'm such an indeterminate person).
I'm happy for the joppers, I burst into tears at the moment of the proposal. I am very happy for them. I've always associated my parents with them! that's why for so many years.. They've become like mom and dad to me.
I think every hero got his own good ending and future. However, I didn't understand where Vikki had gone.. Is she still with Robin?…
I wanted the series to end on dnd, because it all started with him. and it really turned out that way! It was very sad at the moment when Mike watched Holly and her friends immerse themselves in the company. and then the door is closed. And you're sitting there, trying to figure out that's it.. end. The story is over.
I started this journey from the beginning of the first season. Nine years have passed. It's hard to say goodbye to a project.. All the characters have become so familiar, eh. but even good things end sooner or later.
Still, no matter how much I love the osd, there were a lot of plot holes in the second volume. I was hoping that something would be explained in the finale, but no. and many fan theories sounded much more interesting than the final result. Mike, as Vecna's main victim. Mike, like a traitor. WE, who were also deceived, and that Vecna was playing with EVERYONE's mind. that Kali is a traitor or is a vessel of the mind flayer. there was such a potential, but everything turned out to be.. much simpler and leaner.
As I understand it, the song they had a hard time getting was David Bowie. Good choice!
in general, as I said before: the ending is good, I expected the worst. but they could have done much better. There are still a lot of questions that I haven't received answers to.
Anyway, thanks to the Duffers for this story. I'll be back soon to review it! Thanks to the actors for the wonderful work and all this way! Although the fifth season has dropped since the second volume, the series is still one of the best for me. and it has a special place in my heart.
I liked the ending. Especially the fight with the final boss - Vecna/A torturer of the mind. Honestly, I enjoyed this action game so much! How I was afraid for Nancy! Every hero was under attack, but at the last moment something happened that saved him from death ... it seems good, but it's unrealistic to survive in such meat really for EVERYONE!
I think that Odie still disappeared along with the Inside, well, there was no way the Eighth could have lasted so long while they were beating up, while they were returning, while they were driving… I'm really sorry for Mike, now he's going to hold on to this idea all his life that Odie has escaped, and looking for her is the worst thing - running after a mirage.
Dustin's final graduation speech- yes, boy, go ahead! What a cool moment, I love it!
Yes, of course, it's a shame that we forgot about Vicky, Suzy, Enzo and Argyle, but Kamon, this is the finale, we only care about the central characters, and these remain for our imagination.
In general, I'm more than happy with the ending, thanks a lot to this series, it will be reviewed by me more than once, that's for sure! THANKS ❤
We were promised a mega dramatic season with a bunch of plot twists, but in the end, the most dramatic thing here is the cuming out in the penultimate episode of the final (!) season and plot twists of exactly NONE?
Okay, we finished beautifully, all the ends were knocked out, all the branches were closed, there are no questions here, everything is very competent. But I'm probably just not a fan of this series, and I hope that true fans will be satisfied with the ending of their favorite project.
and not a single plot twist and tragic death. true fans, by the way, for the most part are not only unhappy, they are broken and want to forget this season forever. Thank you.
Well, of course, the ending turned out to be as "toothless" as possible. I still expected that there would be victims among the heroes, but the Duffners apparently decided to please everyone. And even though Mike's story about Odie is just speculation, and most likely she sacrificed herself and died, it doesn't help that there weren't some tearful moments.
As the characters of the show said, the ending will be ambiguous and everyone will not like it. It seems to me that older people will more or less come in, but the younger generation will not be particularly interested in watching how snot is chewed for the last hour in the finale. After all, the balance had to be done in 1.5 hours for the battle and half an hour for summing up the results.
and if there is a comment about what exactly was not told about everything in the series, well, yes. but I have a feeling that this could be revealed in spinoffs.
why did only Holly's mind flayer particles come out, but not the other children? if they only came out of it and literally went nowhere, then can we assume that this incomprehensible shit/evil force remained in the universe?......
or am I complicating things too much and I just have to accept this outcome of events)))
Fans from other countries - *Meme with Colin Farrell*
What the hell, it's not what I expected. -_-
in fact, absolutely any fan theories were many times better than what we got.
But this absolutely contradicts the moment when the dust from Holly and the children comes out just after the murder of mindfleer. In theory, the children were supposed to writhe in agony and then die because of the physical connection with Minecraft and being in the consciousness of the Moon.
, well, either he was a boy with magical powers and then the question is why he didn't suffer the fate of 11))))) God, I'm trying to figure out a terrible scenario, God help me.
here I agree with the original comment about the sugar-vanilla ending. The Duffers were just afraid to kill someone for real, so it's better to leave the open end with El than to kill her for real.
so yes))) How few people died during the final
Just offhand.
And the theory about 8 can't be objective either, in a series where there are demos and other unrealistic crap, like escaping from a Soviet prison in an aircraft through Alaska. No one showed us death 8, as well as the time interval they talked about while Hopper was looking for a first-aid kit. They cut us out of the scene just for that .
1. Every time you use your powers, Odie gets a nosebleed, which wasn't on the projection.
2. It is much more realistic that while the projection was distracting everyone's attention, Odi crawled to the nearest building and fell into a tunnel there than she would have crawled to the portal towards the military and no one saw it. Otherwise, it is not clear how she turned out to be so fast for a kilometer, and she also said goodbye to Mike with telekinesis while the "guns" were working.
3. It was emphasized that Mike realized at graduation that Audie would not be able to use her powers in an open area, because the device was also directed towards the portal.
4. In the series, all the analogies and metaphors were from DnD, everything the characters played turned out to be true. Through the game, they showed what happened to the sorceress who saved everyone.
5. If this was just a story to calm down at the table for the last time, the footage would not have shown her walking free towards a new life.
6. Audie could not give signs to either Hopper or Mike that she was alive, since, again, by analogy from DnD, she would be tracked down by the "black order" of the military.
7. All the main characters are still alive.
Everyone has a happy ending. Mike knows that Odie is behind the waterfalls, these are the signs where to look for her, the narrator still has a story.
This does not mean that they intentionally wanted to spoil something for you...
Nell Fisher ( Holly ) is just the sunshine of this season 🫶 I wish her many cool roles )
Jake Connelly (Derek) "For 1.5 years, Connelly has been telling others that he is not starring in a popular franchise, but in a documentary about mayonnaise.
According to the actor, this is the perfect answer to the question about filming, since the interlocutor no longer has any new questions. " 😅😉
Maya Hawke (Robin) - does everyone know whose daughter she is? || actors Uma Thurman and Ethan Hawke - an acting dynasty looms /|
Maya still has those genes on her mother's side. Both my grandmother and great-grandmother were models.
it is this fact of growing up that fucking hits Chet(
It's so annoying)))
Well, Eddie's drain in season 4 was more epic and logical (thanks to Steve for the explanation) than the second half of episode 8.. and, in principle, the very series.. Hello, where's the drama? The directors' eggs left the chat. Of course, I'm glad that everyone was alive, but such a happy ending is too out of character for the OSD. I think Disney secretly bought the rights to the OSD, otherwise I don't understand anything.. Thanks for the happy ending.. I was mentally preparing for what at all :D
Vecna is too dumb this season imho
And the battle with Vecna itself was too easy, everything went right according to plan, where are the demongorgons and other stuff ? :D
Why didn't Will collapse from the pain..?
Apparently, everyone was left alive for sequels and cameos in the future, xs. Of course, I would like to see some kind of development of the universe with cunts, but will it be interesting?
+ I was very pleased with the dialogue between Dustin and Steve about Eddie and their fading friendship. I just shed a tear and I really felt sorry for Steve that Dustin had forgotten about him. But everything was put in its place.
The Nancy and Jonathan scene was a cool and cool idea, but the script is honestly observant :D
Overall, I'm happy for Hopper and Joyce, and for Mike and his company. A fitting end.
Max is amazing, but there's so little of her this season and there's not much to play for. :/
Robin is cool too, but it wasn't enough to close her love line or something..
And Bobby Brown, as an actress, is for me a gg vp. Well, honestly, it's too bad 😨 The demogorgon's CGI has more emotions than the actress' character -_-
And where are all the demogorgons?
And did the military just let everyone go? Has anyone been charged with the murder of a soldier?
And where did the stone from the Abyss in the man's suitcase come from? And it turns out that someone knows and studies the world of the abyss.
And it turns out that the whole laboratory of the soldier inside Out with all the people in it also collapsed?
There are a lot of questions, but can you name any series where the finale ended well?😂
We caught up with a lot of pathos, but we ended up with just the most boring happyand, and even the Secret was stupidly leaked.
Apparently, when the Dumbbells decided who to kill, they were guided by the principle of "who plays the worst". That's why they leaked the Odi.
Millie's performance this season is just some kind of emotionless disaster. Bortich and Petrov are just geniuses of conveying feelings and emotions against her background.
I'd rather live in the reality that after season 4, someone at Netflix went crazy and just shut down the series and season 5 never existed.
A lot of tears, as befits such projects.
And I believe…
When you hurt too much and got what you deserved.
Since the first season, tension has been building: first it was one boy abducted by a monster, and then mystery after mystery, and I loved watching the guys play DD, but it's not just a game - it's their life, their childhood. Perhaps if the fourth season hadn't been so strong, if the Duffers hadn't been trumpeting at every turn what a massive and steep ending it would be, my expectations wouldn't have been dashed. Don't think about it, I'm glad that everyone was alive, but I didn't get emotionally hooked, almost completely, and at some points I even wanted to fall asleep.
Anyway, thanks to the whole team for such a long and wonderful journey.
I'm kind of glad that the end is quite happy. The metaphors at the end seemed to be good (where the guys close their stories and put them on the shelves, and other children come to replace them).
But still, the last episode didn't really get me emotionally.
I remember the last episode of season 4 and I want to review it again. I remember the last episode of the series and I don't want to review it.
Although I really liked the first 4 episodes of the season, honestly. They were really good. And then ... well, the same emotions as from the completion of Sex education approximately. It seems to be normal, but it's kind of sad that it could have been much better, because they can do it!
I also really love the series and the characters, so I totally agree with the criticism and that there are problems with the plot. And yes, it would be much better if they released all the episodes and then a separate 2-hour finale. Steve and Dustin are just the best) Strange as it may seem, there are too many characters in the series, and because of this, everyone is given less time (
Yes, it's a shame for Mike, we could have given a very very good ending then.
Show how Mike and Odie look at the waterfalls at the end
I believe too♥️
* Dustin's speech is wonderful 🤘🏽
God, I didn't cry enough on New Year's morning. Thank you to the Duffers for everything,they shot a beautiful ending that broke my heart.💔
I'll miss all the characters.
And I do not know where to yell about him 😁
There was a very strong scene with Hopper - those shots, I even believed for a second...
When the flashbacks with little Al and Hop were shown, I burst into tears - the second season is the most precious for me precisely because of their dynamics.
And I'm really glad that Hopper found the strength to move on after losing Odi. He and Joyce deserved their happiness after everything that had happened...
I really liked the scene with Steve and Jonathan - they finally got it right.
I was worried about Murray, in case the military shot him; the helicopter bombing scene was good, of course))
I'm thrilled with the epilogue.
Dustin's graduation speech - Eddie would have been proud of him🥹🥹
Our Steve, Jonathan, Robin and Nancy are on the roof of the radio station discussing life and agreeing to meet together at Robin's uncle's house - such a vital thing... it may or may not be real - they will all split up, they have their own things, work, study, but they will still remain friends and will not lose each other.
And, of course, the final scene with the D&D game in Mike's basement... I'm in tears... It was very touching. All these guys deserve their happy ending. And we all, like Mike, want to believe that Al is out there somewhere, in a place with three waterfalls...
the last scene is also wonderful. The guys say goodbye to their childhood, but the game doesn't end, and new players come in their place.🥹🥹
After crumpled vol.2 I didn't expect much from the finale, but I was almost completely satisfied with what I saw.
This finale worthily concluded the story that began 9 years ago. And no tragic deaths are needed. Just let everything be fine for everyone.
And Happy New Year to all!!!!
Well, the "Game of Thrones effect" happened - they leaked everything to hell, it's a shame
The serial industry disappoints me a lot, I'll switch to watching interviews with smart people and old movies, there are no such sets there.
This is a division of the season into three parts. More precisely, it was even a mistake to release the finale separately from the second part of the season. If they hadn't left the viewer in a state of anticipation for a week, even after that scene of Will's, if the viewer hadn't had a whole week to feel like "we didn't get something," and "we have to get it in a week," the finale wouldn't have looked so detached and hasty. Yes, even if they released the second part along with the finale, they would still be unhappy, because it's normal, but I think the perception would be completely different.🤔
El's "death" did not cause any emotions, this season it was less emotional, there was no connection. And as I understand it, we can't be sure that El is alive and has found her waterfalls somewhere out there, this is just Mike's suggestion, but I may be wrong
. The series is insanely cool, I can't even be completely mad at the ending, because the characters deserve their good ending. Even if it seems that the secret was so stupidly leaked
and where are Vicky and Susie? I was hoping for at least some mention of the second in season 5.
😭😭😭😭😭😭
I'll cry, maybe I'll analyze something else.
Were we supposed to feel sorry for Henry now? (I really felt a little sorry) but how did he end up in this cave? Who is this guy with the briefcase? we will remain without answers..
Will. My dear Will. Noah is so handsome when he smiles! God, thank God the Duffers hadn't completely lost their minds and killed him, otherwise they would have definitely sucked my fat one.
May he finally be happy and find his love! Hooray
Dustin, Steve, Lucas, Max - the actors are just smart, they played everything well, and especially Gaten, this whole line with Dustin's grief and fear for Steve was very touching.
The epilogue turned out to be tearful, where we started - that's what we came to.
Rating of favorite seasons from more to less go:
Season 2
Season 1, season
4, season
3
, season 5
There's always some kind of dissonance when the main characters are walking somewhere "inside out" and so on, and at the same time they're chatting on a walk or when someone gets fucked up, and the rest of them are kind of fucking dancing. Well, there are older children when uncles and aunts +25-30 years old are trying to play high school students (this is already a classic of American cinema). That's why children's TV shows can't be stretched over 10 years.…
Well, Bobby Millie's horse with a lot of filler is a hotel LOL, she was already a lip slap.
Only the first season was really good, that was the end of the viewing, then the template Hollywood soap began - the military, the evil Russians, the dungeon and dragons…
The fact that Jane died (that shit doesn't stand up to scrutiny at the end), and Hopper didn't die, and he also got a happy ending instead of a lifetime one.
well, probably thanks for not making her a villain?
The rooftop scene in the epilogue almost made me throw up.
in general, the entire epilogue is filled with sugar syrup, even too lazy to write specifically, it's a complete mess.
And the problem isn't the happy ending, the problem is that it's made to last.
at least it was possible to show how Max was recovering physically, and the rest mentally, no, damn, everyone shook themselves off and as if nothing had happened, they live their lives
that's where the real fiction is
the only drawback in my opinion is the splitting of the season into volumes, it would have been better if everything had happened at once, it would have been much more convenient.
thanks to everyone who took part in this amazing story, I remember how in season 4 I dropped out when Jamie Bauer appeared, and then there was such a twist with the fact that HE was the main villain! I've been watching Stranger things since the very first season and I'm completely satisfied with the ending!
ps/ and Maxine finally played in DND!!!! 💔💔
a very weak final fight, a very weak last episode, the whole season is weak
No matter how I or anyone else feel about the finale, I would like to say a huge thank you to the Duffer brothers for these almost ten years spent together, for the story they gave us.
For me, this show is akin to Harry Potter — the children grew up, we became adults, we changed, the world changed, our lives changed.… But it's great that we've walked this path together.
Thank you for the unique atmosphere of the 80s, for the last time we visited our native Hawkins and spent time in the company of our family.
Remember this tweet
I believe!
I haven't cried like this for two hours in a long time)
I hope that Odie is alive and happy)
and of course the younger generation will play instead of them..
Congratulations to the Duffers, so you have to try to devalue the character and screw up the ending.
Dustin Top 💪🏻😁
Thank you for an exciting journey, residents of Hawkins - you have created a whole universe that I am sure many will return to more than once!
it's hard to return to real ordinary life after such an emotional story, but our guys have grown up and the basement is open for another generation. 🤍
Some seasons brought in characters: 8th, brother Max and Eddie. They all died. Not killing any of the main characters at all for 5 seasons is a wild mistake that leaves an absolute void after watching.
Hop, who killed a ton of military men in 5 seasons and ended up in their clutches, continued to work as a sheriff. Cavo?
A byte for Steve's death is good, but if he had fallen off the tower so stupidly (I'll note that he was the only one who rolled in that direction), it would have been as stupid as possible.
8th all season, absolutely nothing. The same record, they say, you have to die. Thank you for making everything different in the end, of course, but this is a death that no one seems to care about.
The moment of a fight with a monster is cool. But please, at least hurt someone! At least that's something! They went where they didn't know they were going, and they came out without a scratch. And, yes, as if the mind eater had a Prime version in the season, where he controlled people through Max's brother, and then they didn't have time to show him, as they had already leaked.
The moment with the fact that Vecna is the same vessel - and what? Where is the development of this? Yes, I'm a vessel, I don't give a fuck. Literally. It didn't change the attitude towards the character at all.
The moment with the suitcase raised more questions than it answered. First we are told that Odie has opened the inside, then they say that she is pregnant, and then it turns out that she was before. It is clear that nothing is clear.
I'm happy for the characters, of course, but that's not how season 5 was supposed to end. It's not the best thing the fans have been waiting for. Theories, as usual, turned out to be better than modern screenwriters. I'm not surprised that you're being replaced by AI.
I can't remember a single normal series finale I've watched in recent years.
As for the inside, there's a description of the production in the comments above, which is interesting.
I didn't want to write anything here in general, but here's what came to mind to ask. By no means am I going to launch holivar and srach, but the question is this: there is a plot of "Harry Potter" where the villain also dies, Harry remains alive, which also seems to be a positive outcome of the events of the franchise. In your opinion, how does it differ from the final of the SD? Maybe the GP finale is also somewhat fabulous? Or perhaps the plots are too different and it's completely incorrect to compare?
There were many assumptions about the ending of the SD, and perhaps none would have fully pleased the viewer.
, and very strange cases was originally a dark, frightening fantasy where children on bicycles fought monsters from another world, but with each passing season it all became less serious and similar to itself. I mean, yes, every time the scale gets bigger, the villains get deadlier, but nothing serious happened to the characters, and in the end it went nowhere. the final battle is some kind of clash, the main villain in season 5 did almost nothing villainous, the characters of some of the characters (as well as the characters themselves) are forgotten, the relationship between the characters is too, the plot holes are not closed, Chekhov's guns did not fire, a lot of questions remained. and against the background of the constant assurances of the authors about the incredible ending, all this looks doubtful in the end.
Watching TV series, especially cult ones, it has always been interesting for me to look "behind the scenes" after the finale of the story: to see how the characters experience everything that we have lived with them on the screens for years. To understand how they struggle with a possible loss, have they adjusted their lives? For example:
— Has Jon Snow found peace and has Tyrion become a good hand?;
— Has Lyra Belaqua lived a normal life, or has her past shattered her;
Has June Osborne found her daughter? And many, many more stories.
But for some reason, it was in the SD that I didn't want to look behind the "inside" of the final and see what the future holds for them. I just wanted to see a good present for them.
On the one hand, everyone is alive, building their lives, perhaps without letting go of the past. But they live and smile. At the same time, they also put up with what they have. Except for Mike, I guess. And the problem is, I feel like that Mike. Because this ending is not enough for me.
I was willing to accept any development in the drama, but not one where one of the most important characters in the story sacrifices himself for the sake of the lives of others. And at the end, they make it clear to us that she is alive and well, but far away from here and most likely will not appear in the lives of those who love her anymore. Perhaps expectation is not equal to reality after all.
For me, Odi/El is the heart of the series, Millie conquered her game literally from the first episodes of the first season. And as a human being, I wanted a different ending for Odi. Maybe the same calmness, but honest and open + together with those with whom and for whom she had been fighting for many years. And here we see that she found herself in some kind of New Asgard — the vibes of the area are exactly like that.
And after the finale, it seems that the main antagonist of the series is not Vecna./The torturer, namely inhumane people like Dr. Kay. Who are ready to sacrifice anything for the sake of victories on the battlefield, even children.
I will be happy to review the first, perhaps, 4 seasons. But I will imagine the ending differently. It's a pity that this is another series that didn't show the end the way we would have liked, despite the promises of the creators. And thank you for discovering the Kate Bush song for me — it's a masterpiece.
I'd make a deal with God to see a different ending.
Despite all the flaws and criticism towards the final season, it still turned out very well.
It's sad to break up, but it was inevitable. I will definitely review all the seasons and remember the guys with special love. 🫶🏻
Even if there are some flaws or advantages for me, it can be in any story, the creators saw this ending here, and I accept it, because it's good enough..
As this looping of the first season showed at the end, especially many moments, it's just 10 out of 10, it's too good.
Apparently, the basement in this house will never be empty, it seems like there has been a generational change, but everyone was united by the same event and game.
If there is a spin-off, I think the creators will have to work hard (although I don't quite understand what else they will show us)
>almost all questions are closed
About none.
Paying. I just finished watching it and I want everything to be like Mike said in the finale.
I fell in love with this series...
Max, Will, Steve are my favorite characters, but everyone else will always be in my heart too.
I'm going to open up to my parents this year, and it's all thanks to Will's character, and I hope Mom accepts me the same way Joyce does.
Guys, we've been through this whole path together for so many years, maybe in 5-10-20 years we'll be reviewing it with our children. 🥺🫶🏻
Doing something because of a second-rate character in a second-rate TV series is just top. :D
Naturally, it's not just about the character, but if the series is second-rate, why are you watching it, look at I don't know sharp visors, or some kind of action movie where "Real men" are cast.
It will be very difficult for you to understand why this is so important to many, because you are not a minority in your country.
One word from you can lead to the fact that you will lose your parents, friends, colleagues at one moment and become just a second-rate person for society. So think about it at your leisure, and good luck to you.
They hadn't really revealed anything, not about Henry's story, not about the Mind Torturer, not about the Vecna plan. It turns out they're villains just because they are... The villains? They wanted to destroy the Earth, but why did this earth surrender to the Torturer of Reason? Motivation? But why should we, because it will do anyway. It was as if the creators were turning on those who hadn't watched the play The First Shadow or hadn't even read about it. Okay, they didn't reveal the Torturer of the Mind, but they didn't really reveal Henry either... We were also so stupidly led to the fact that the main evil is not Vecna, but the Torturer, Kamon, in season 4 Lucas and Dustin already uttered the phrase that Vecna is a "general" in the army of the torturer.
Of course, there were a lot of cool moments, a lot of emotional ones, something was even well thought out and filmed, but there was little timing.
For me, the ending is merged. The potential was huge, the fan theories were amazing, but we have what we have.
I believe that somewhere there will be an author who will write an amazing fanfiction based on season 5, which will be better than season 5.
@NyBras: Instagram is full of
It would have been hard, but it would have been an emotional peak, and then there was just nothing, that is, I watched and I just couldn't
I am very glad that the arcs of almost all the characters have been closed, most importantly my beloved ones, but somehow everything is so different....
Nancy was between Steve and Jonathan for 4 seasons. And who did she choose? Rejected both of them? Is this the closing of the arch?
- The Eleventh came from a parallel world and made everyone fall in love with her. And she changed this world. And where is she? Is she dead? Did she go back? Did she deceive everyone and disappear into our world?
- Dustin found Suzy, who helped save the world. And where is she?
"Will was a spy for whom?" The torturer or the Funeral? If it's the first one, why did you see it through the eyes of the second one? And he was in love with Mike-why didn't he open up to Mike, but to everyone? Did you find another partner after that? Is this also a cool ending to the arch?
- Hoper dreamed of saving the Eleventh from troubles and making her his daughter, along with Sarah, who died. So what? Did it? Saved you?
- Everyone has been trying to shut down experiments with children since the first season. So what? What about pregnant women? With Dr. Kay? Was they stopped?
Really! The disappointment of the season is that nothing was explained or closed at all...
, in the second, they were opened and closed again
, etc.
Moral: go to the sauna, guys.
P.S. I hope we are not waiting for a prequel about getting this magic pebble into a suitcase in the middle of the desert.
No need, the door to the basement was well closed.
Yes, the last season is not without flaws, but everyone will tell about it without me.
Thanks for a 10-year cool story.
The byte with Steve's fall with the help of a kata on a black screen is a cringe. It's just the lowest form of suspense.
I never would have thought that in the end, Lucas and Max would succeed, and Nancy-Jonathan and Mike-Eleven would break up. These are the relationships that have held me since the first seasons, and for the last two seasons these relationships have literally not developed, and now they have ended like this. 😌
In short, the ending is just "ok". It was probably strange to expect that the biggest and most expensive Netflix series would end in some bold or unusual way, but I wanted to believe in the stories about "going back to the vibes of the first season." Sorry, but this episode is literally the anti-vibes of the first season.
but I'll miss you anyway
The plot is for cute kids, it's not enough for them to sing about the power of friendship. On the one hand, important questions were raised and conclusions were drawn in the epilogue, but it's all so sweet, it's impossible. For such a project, you want at least a little meat, after such events, no one even went crazy.
Explain one thing, in order to understand what kind of man with a suitcase in a cave I really need to go Google the plot of a Broadway production? or was it told somewhere in the series that I just overlooked?
(he laughed like he wasn't himself, at the moment when they began to significantly injure the intergalactic superduper spider with spears)
Yes, the feelings from the finale are really mixed. I would even say that the ending is kind of soy-based and too successful.
But at the same time, I am shamelessly happy for the survivors of Steve and Dustin, and I don't care that this gun was hung on the wall and it didn't go off))
I screamed a couple of times: when Steve flew off the tower, when Odie threw Henry out from behind the table, when she impaled him on this spike (?).
As it is, well, it's really too safe.
Some people write that the chemistry is finally visible again in the Mike and Odie scene, but I know it was super unnatural for me, there is no love visible, just bad acting on both sides.
But the chemistry of Lucas and Max WOW! Before he said she was sexy, I already knew he was going to say she was sexy, because, well, that look, girls.😏
I don't understand what they were trying to tell us with Mike's strange behavior: he's kind of depressed and tells Hopper, "I don't want to pretend everything's okay," and then tells his friends that Odie kind of survived and everything is fine with her. So why are you depressed, Mike?
It's kind of crumpled.
Derek 100/10
Holly, who finally broke into the dork 1000/10
Dramatic Henry, my sweet fallen angel, watching his origin 1000000/10
They write above that comments, theories and discussions have made a huge contribution to the pleasure of the last season, and I definitely agree with this opinion!
Thank you for the brilliant versions that this ending could have, I wish you and I had asked))
You guys are great, thanks to MyShows for this special opportunity to connect with hundreds and thousands of amazing people and opinions.
Still, to me, it looks more like Mike's fantasy, which no one, including himself, really believed.
a couple of days after I wrote this comment, I found this explanation in tiktok. but this season we have a top of unobvious (I would even say, crumpled and inarticulate) messages from Duffers)) or I also don't rule out that I was just stupid) (but I won't even take the blame for the anti-proposal, they definitely overreacted there ahahaha)
and yet somehow it turned out that this moment with the speakers and jammers did not lead to anything but vague suspense. Then during the DND, I didn't remember about him anymore and didn't tie him up.
the moment with Steve on the tower made me tense, I just believed that this was his end, but thanks to Jonathan. Dustin's graduation speech is a cannon. I'm glad Henry wasn't made a victim of circumstances. But he was right about the evil from people, alas, if it hadn't been for the military with their destructive ideas, the ending of El would have been different.
I'm glad that everything turned out well for the guys and they're moving on. I'm happy for Hopper and Joyce-they need each other.
It's a pity that we will never know if the story of the sorceress turned out to be true or just Mike's invention. But we believe.
Overall, I liked everything. Thank you for this wonderful series to the creators!
Two hours of disappointment and sadness for this incredible series. Seasons 2 and 3 were more violent and serious than that. I ate glass at many points, but overall the emotions are very mixed.
Have we been preparing for the final battle with Vecna for several seasons in order to merge it like this?
It's a pity that the finale doesn't feel like the first chapter of season 5. It's very sad.
What a mess. But how they grunted, how they promised the "EPTA Olympic final".
No one died (except for the 8th and, of course, the military). Even the death of 11 is questionable, LOL, left the way for sequels. Tfu in the face of the scriptwriters.
Hopper and Nancy fucked up a yard of military- they just let them go and that's it? And the others also did a bit of sabotage, yeah. No, after death 11, they just packed up and left, yeah.
The murder of Vecna and the second (I won't even remember his name) is just mega-toothless. Where are the demogorgons, where are the bats, where are the demops? Did everything end abruptly? Even 1 (ONE) demogorgon would have set up this suicide squad on easy.
Oh, yes, a very interesting question - and where did the scientists get the first pebble from this planet, because the Inside was created, ACCORDING to THEIR OWN LORE, even when 11 went looking for Henry? Before that, there was no connection between the dimensions.
Imho, but giving such important information through theatrical productions is a very strange decision.
, but anyway, thank you for these almost 10 years.
And the rest of the finale is expected. A lot of snot, but almost everyone lived
Good!!!! I'll re-write the gist.
I feel very sorry for Vikna. He is a victim of circumstances. And the most dramatic character of the series. In the finale, at the end, he and this team of half-wits had to fight against spider and Orara evil spirits. And someone else might die with one. That is, the development of his story should have shown that he repented. Otherwise, what's the point of his memories, the drama of the cave, and so on?
in all those days between the second volume and the finale, I read a bunch of theories, which eventually came down to one thing - after Will got into Vecna's mind and was able to control it, Vecna did the same thing, and the events of episodes 6-7 are not what they seem. This is either a "production" that Vecna shows the characters, or Vecna is just controlling Will, or he has captured all the characters, and this is an illusion. well, that is, something that could justify a very torn second volume and the inconsistency of some details. and the fans, after digging through the entire season 5, found quite a lot of evidence for this theory + everyone had a hope that the duffers couldn't forget how to write the script of their own series like that. but in the end...
it turns out that all the inconsistencies in the second volume are either really the fault of the cut scenes (if they exist), or the fault of the authors themselves. like Will's forgotten birthday, Will's forgotten age, the forgotten painting that Will gave Mike, and which, as we were promised, will still play a role in the finale. why did Mike behave so terribly towards Odie and Will in seasons 3-4, but in the second volume of season 5 he was just a log? why did none of the non-gg's wonder at the living hopper, how did he become chief again in the epilogue if he was considered dead for two years? How did the conflict with the military eventually resolve after the inside was destroyed? Why was there no normal dialogue between Mike and Will, if, according to the authors, Mike realized who was crashing Will? and there are many more "how" and "why"((
in general, I expected more, more emotions and passions, but somehow it turned out... Simple? At least I'm grateful that Henry didn't suddenly side with gg when Will was talking to him, otherwise it would have been a complete failure.
there are no questions about the epilogue, I liked Dustin's speech at the graduation (hell club is alive!), I liked the conversation between Steve, Jonathan, Robin and Nancy, it's cool that they all became friends and agreed to meet every month. I've been waiting for several seasons for a date in Enzo and Hopper Joyce's proposals, thank you for finally showing up. mom and dad deserved a good quiet life. Well, the finale of the company in DND was expected, but it still turned out to be very touching. I believe that saving Odie is not just Mike's opinion, but she really escaped to three waterfalls. 💔
So I guess the spin-off that's been reported recently will be about Holly and her friends? it's not for nothing that they "changed" our party at the very end)
in general, if you dive into the plot and follow everything closely, then the finale is so-so and left a lot of questions open, but probably if you watch the OSD as an ordinary series, do not delve too much into ENT, do not study the assurances of the authors, do not read the theories and, most importantly, do not build for season 5. great expectations will do. in any case, the epilogue pulled everything out, leaving after all a pleasant aftertaste.
or maybe they should have ended on season 4. or 2. who knows
Happy New Year to all! ❤
The end credits with David Bowie are finished for good
on the one hand, I liked the moment when Joyce finished off Vecna with moments where everyone was hurt, but on the other hand..Henry was also a child, I wanted him to follow Will's words and help. I
'm glad that the wrong side is over and that everyone is happy, I also believe in what Mike said about Audie, but I'm still sad that we didn't see happy milevens at the end, and I'm sorry for Jancy...but I'm very happy for Lumax, Jopper and for Will. ❤️
I liked the final scene, to end with what started - the game, and Holly and her friends are playing
it. I got a lot of emotions while watching the series, excitement, fear, even cried, it was scary to watch the series after the previous series and fan theories, But I'm glad it wasn't that bad. 🙏🏼
After the episode, I turned on the first episode of the first season again, where they are all such little cute kids playing DD and they still have a lot to do.
One of the best TV series, despite some shortcomings.
That's the first thing.
Secondly, not every work has to be a masterpiece, it's just a good and dynamic entertainment series that NEVER had any plot revelations, it's not about that at all. But the vibes of action movies and silly fiction of the 80s have reached their peak here, but people don't seem to be buying it. Nancy was dressed up as a cross between Ripley and Rambo, well, Camon, the hints are even more obvious.
I would say that the season shows that they are exhausted, you can't take that away. I think the years of production and the need to somehow make ends meet in a story that wasn't originally planned to be so long are having an effect - reviewing the first seasons, it's pretty obvious that the Mystery and the story were added retroactively.
The only thing I still have complaints about, even within the framework of this paradigm, is that Will is the only one who has not been prescribed normal character development. All seasons he was lost, scared, crying, and was passively saved by everyone around him. And in the fifth season, despite everything shown, it still didn't feel like a full-fledged character formation. It's clear that this is the tragedy of his character, that his youth was spent trying to get rid of this shit while his friends around him were growing up, but I would still like more.
I'm not particularly bloodthirsty about SD, these are not Guys where deaths are determined by the concept of the show, so saving absolutely ALL the characters didn't bother me much. The Duffers had been saving them up for nothing for five seasons. It's a pity to throw it away. Let them lie on the balcony for now.
And with Audie, it was so obvious that I was willing to bet money that Millie Bobby would be returned at the first opportunity when the spin-offs began to sink in ratings. In principle, it will be, but without the surprise of a sudden resurrection. And everyone else will be returned, which is a sin to conceal. They'll take you off the balcony and shake you off.
By the way, I wrote earlier and I will repeat myself again. The creators introduced a new character each season and sacrificed them in the final episode. For the sake of drama. This time, the role fell to the old new forgotten Kali. They didn't change the formula. Keep it up.
And impressions on small things.
Baby demogorgon is more successful at holding a punch than a Hawkins-sized spider. During the entire season, not a single military man was able to shoot a demogorgon with a machine gun, but Nancy quite successfully hit the spider boss, being the size of his pimple.
It's a good thing that there won't be a sixth season, otherwise the authors wouldn't have been able to resist and included all twelve children in the permanent cast of the remaining thirty.
Only in a democratic country like the United States can you shoot the American military and they will understand and forgive you. Isn't that right, Nancy and Sheriff Hopper?
An unnoticed twist of the season - Linda Hamilton turned out to be a wedding general in rank.
I'm actually glad that no one from the main caste was killed, I wouldn't forgive that))
The Duffer brothers, juggling the expectations of fans, seemed to stay on the side of chaotic good, and it's nice :D
I cried, especially when one of my favorite songs of my life, Purple rain by Prince, started playing, and it was impossible not to cry with El to it.
Thank you for the whole atmosphere, for the themes of love, friendship, parenthood and mentoring - this is exactly what the whole series and this season in particular were good for me, but I don't want to go into criticism.
Well, with the coming of 2026 for all commentators, in general, starting the year with the completion of the story is somehow reassuring, don't you think?)
Yes, from the very beginning the series was about nostalgia, friendship, childhood and the feeling of a bygone time. But at the same time, it has been constantly growing since the first season. The number of characters, storylines, and the scale of what was happening increased. And unlike the same "Game of Thrones", where there was a literary basis, here the whole story grew entirely from the idea and imagination of the Duffer brothers.
And that's why the ending we got seems to me the most logical and optimal possible.
I don't think that the real death of any of the main characters could have fit into this story at all. Not because it's scary or pathetic, but because that's not what the series has always been about. As a result, each character got his own ending. Not perfect, not fabulous, but honest.
It makes perfect sense to me that she's gone. She was, in fact, the most lost character in this story from the very beginning. As Hopper told her, she was literally born into grief. A lost mother, a childhood of experimentation, escape, and then years of continuous struggle with otherworldly evil.
She was always different from the others. Back when the guys were just kids, she was already a little adult. And it was felt throughout the series. Even when they were all growing up, dreaming, fantasizing, and believing in the best, she often already knew that reality would be different.
Therefore, her choice to leave is not an escape or a defeat. It's a need to finally stop, live through everything that happened to her, and try to figure out who she really is, outside of war, pain, and other people's expectations.
I would like to say separately about the scale. In my opinion, the huge volume of events has been very successfully integrated into the fifth season as a whole, and into the two final two-hour episodes. The key questions were answered. Yes, you can always dig deeper and ask why it is so, why not otherwise, but what would happen if… But it's an endless process.
Overall, it's a good, bright and happy ending for me. Not perfect. But exactly what was needed here.
No matter what, I'm happy with the ending. It's not like Game of Thrones, and that's a good thing.
Thank you for Moeini's very strange 10 years. Thank you for the smiles and tears. For fear and joy. Thanks for the fandom. Thank you.
You are forever in my heart.
And I believe.
And yet, thank you for the wonderful first season of A Very Strange Day, I still remember my emotions, how cool it was. It is a pity that many cult works are difficult to finish on time.
Happy New Year
This is the first season that I predicted almost completely, which in itself speaks to the quality of the script. To be honest, I was almost sure that Henry would turn to the side of good in a cliched manner at the end when Will got into his head, but they still didn't make the ending so sugary.
There is a lot of exposure falling out. The series has done this before, but this season it was completely ugly. It got to the point where it was ridiculous that almost every character had to pour out their soul before a critical moment. The conversations and relationships of the characters are good, but the dynamics have been completely destroyed, these are just long conversations that are noticeably overblown in a context where they should be minimal or not at all.
Lost characters. Against the background of the above, it is very striking how the characters were turned into caricatures of themselves. Some were a little more lucky, like Dustin and Steve, but many felt like furniture. Unfortunately, the acting also reinforced these impressions. The cherry on this bad-smelling cake is flirting with the death of characters without actually dying.
The plot as a whole suggests relaxing your mind as much as possible and not thinking about the fact that the military is missing the simplest ciphers on the local radio, not guarding the observation position next to their main facility, not to mention the fact that a "completely unsuspecting" smuggler brings explosives into the cordoned-off city without any special tricks, and Nancy shoots trained fighters. Is it worth mentioning that in the end, our "team A" is released after being captured without even trying to explain it in any way?
In general, I didn't expect much, but it turned out the way it did. I won't say it's a pity for the time spent, but this is a weak conclusion to the series.
I don't like open endings, but the ending came out great with Odi.It's a good program from DND, whether you believe in the fate of the sorceress or not.
And I'm certainly glad that Harrington is still alive, my favorite character.)
As for the ending... I believe and hope, like everyone else, that Odie was saved and it was a big and cunning initial plan, everything is better than fucking self-sacrifice🫣
It hurts so much, I'm just drowning in tears.
I can't imagine how Hopper got through it the second time..
I'm glad for this ending. I really wanted hope and fewer losses, and that's what happened.
And I also believe that Odie is alive.
It's beautiful, I hope no one will argue here. Camera angles, landscapes, the inside out, the house of reason, this monster, the helicopter explosion (Santa, well, gives🔥), and what close-ups, tears, snot, everything.
In general, they promised an emotional meat grinder, I feel like minced meat, replayed by the final of the OSD. Every minute I roar from Hop and Al's conversation, for a few minutes I laugh from Derek Henry, then I'm afraid, I worry, I roar again, and so on until the last second..
About 11, everyone chooses their own ending, I don't really like such blurred dots, just choose for yourself. But because at the very moment of the explosion, I was confused by the fact that El was behind the wave devices, as well as when she managed to get out of the van and run so far. According to this "I believe"
Goodbye legend, the Duffer brothers have created a masterpiece. I don't watch TV shows, but I'll definitely turn on this one again someday. The flashbacks are so touching that it just begs to "include episode 1 of season 1"
> that El ended up behind the wave machines, how and when she managed to get out of the van and run so far.
Plus, that's the only thing that also bothers me about the version that she sacrificed herself. There's a gun on the hummer in the direction of the truck where everyone was driving, and two more on the sides of the entrance to the Inside
But Mike's version confuses me even more, because I don't understand how 8 could have made the illusion so far away (it's okay, let's say it's not THAT far) and how 8 knew about all the bloodstains and dirt on 11's suit, if 11's suit was crystal clear in the laboratory at the time of the injury. All the spots appeared already during the fight in X
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There is a twofold feeling. It seemed like something tragic was coming, but I also love happy endings. In general, everything is fine, the series began with a kind of childish naivety, and ended with it. Adults also need to believe in a miracle, and that everything will be fine.😊
Bye Hawkins. We were scared and had fun together.
happy New Year to all)
As for the fact that the heroes quickly defeated the main villain, it was as if everything was going to happen. They've been through so much, they've become more mentally stable, more mature, stronger. We have learned to accept ourselves and others. Vecna, on the contrary, never accepted the imperfections of people. Well, it turns out that the moral is like in "Potter": love (for oneself, loved ones and others) wins. those who are only about hate.
In general, I liked the ending, we put the dots on and. The last scene is actually a fire.
, Will didn't care when the monster and Vecna were killed.
How a fat kid got into a cave where Max was barely stuck.
How did the guys get to the height of the mountains instantly in the battle with the monster? In reality, it takes several hours at best to climb there without equipment. And Nancy immediately started shooting. What kind of nonsense is this?
The main monster turned out to be much weaker than his servants. A whole army of armed soldiers did not take out three demogorgons, and a group of children killed the main monster.…
Well, chopping off the head in front of children is powerful, of course.…
The first half was a complete failure for me, it was too sterile and harsh, the last fight was just bad, they were afraid to kill at least someone significant.
At the same time, the second half is 10/10
Every minute is just a thrill, an indescribable range of emotions and vitality of adult life, when you look at the graduation of the guys, at how the adult characters began their lives without each other, how the guys played DND for the last time and show their further destinies, which are also unrelated to each other, EL, who seems to have survived, and it seems also, I'm not with the guys anymore, well, the generational change, I didn't think that at the age of 30 I could be brought out so that my eyes would water, but the Duffers could.
Thanks to my favorite TV series for these wonderful 10 years.
The season finale is not bad, but unfortunately not outstanding or impressive. I would even say that what was supposed to happen happened, no revelations. The Duffers were probably afraid to repeat the fate of Game of Thrones, but either because of their fear or because of something else, they made an absolutely safe and toothless ending, trying to please everyone. But in their attempt to please everyone, they seemed to have lost something. Compared to previous seasons, this finale seemed to be the weakest, despite many good moments. Even last season's finale was much more interesting and epic. Indeed, some fan theories turned out to be much better. But that's why they're fan theories. And it's a pity that many guns never fired.
And I can't scold them, to be honest. It's quite a difficult and demanding job and it's not always possible to make ends meet. Especially considering that they hadn't planned for five seasons. Well, the big interruptions between seasons (due to the pandemic and the writers/actors' strike) clearly did not benefit the series. I'm sure if it weren't for these problems, the ending would have been clearly different.
In general, there are very few such series, the final seasons and the final episodes of which would suit the majority. Lost has a very controversial ending, and everyone remembers the Game of Thrones very well. The 4th season of Sherlock also disappointed many. Dexter failed twice with the ending, but the third attempt succeeded.
Anyway, it's been a good nine years. Thanks to the creators for the wonderful characters and atmosphere. I hope we'll see something similar again someday.
And one more thing. The guys put down so many soldiers, both Hopper and Nancy.
And they don't mind walking around in freedom, laughing. The City of psychopaths
(what was that all about)
And I'm incredibly happy that he and Steve are fine.
To be honest, I expected something more from the ending, but overall I liked what happened.
Well, Dustin's speech 👏
After all that has happened, everyone finally has the opportunity to start living the way they would like. Including Audie. I believe!
But when everything ends, that would give way to a new one.
And if, in fact, what is the level of this series, that would keep all 5 seasons of attention. A great project
But all these are theories, the confirmation of which we will find out in 10 years.
Because the already confirmed spin-off is one hundred percent, like all spin-offs, the continuation of reboots, restarts, etc.D. in a couple of seasons, the old characters will be taken out due to the rigid fan service, and that's where everything will be told.
It's a pity that after such a cool 4th we couldn't come up with anything properly. In the end, we got what we got.
We must pay tribute to the Duffers that this is their first project. And it's also difficult to keep the bar up for so long, so they blurred the ending to please the audience.
I hope the whole young caste doesn't fuck up their careers, we'll wait and see)
But I liked the epilogue, and it was sickly sweet, but fuck it. May everyone be happy. Peace, friendship, chewing gum and all that.
The moment when Audie allegedly changed her mind about living her life and decided to stay inside is already doubtful, and when you are told that she probably didn't die, you sit and think what a mess. An attempt to put you on the hook of experience for the sake of trying to put you on the hook of experience? As it turned out at the last moment that Eight had resurrected with her last strength and remotely helped Odie, there was also something causing a suspicious squint in my eyes
But in reality, the Duffers simply didn't have the courage to kill her one hundred percent, so they gave themselves a convenient escape plan. Every viewer can believe what they want, and that she lives somewhere near the waterfalls and that she stayed Inside. It is unlikely that we will ever be given an unambiguous answer to this.
As it is, Mike's ignorance just explains the fact that Kylie supposedly resurrected after making one last leap.
OSD is the first and only series so far that I joined with everyone and also sat waiting for the finale and hoped that they would not merge. Endless fan theories, own thoughts and questions.
An interesting experience.
I liked.
It was clear that Steve wouldn't be killed (and that's good, thanks a lot), because the creators would have been blown up for it. Now in order.
Thanks to Jonathan for saving Steve, my heart skipped a beat at the moment of the fall, I was even really scared, but I understood that someone would save him now, I really thought that Dustin would jump after him, someone would follow him and we would see a chain of people!
I liked the dialogue between Steve and Jonathan, they finally decided everything and became real friends! Who was really scared for, it was Nancy, I thought she wouldn't get out!
The graduation is great, Dustin's speech is in the very heart, Eddie's legacy is alive, Eddie would be proud of Dustin! The reaction from Steve, friends, and Dustin's mom is amazing! HELLFIRE LIVES!!!
Playing with Hopper's mind - it was very strong, but it was also immediately clear that this was an illusion and Hopper did not shoot at El.
Joyce with an axe is just a beauty, I watched it and just, yes, let's do it like that! We had a great time with the first season!
The moment with Mike and Will did not seem dry or forced, but on the contrary, I expected something similar, of course, if this scene had not been placed in the finale, it could have been more detailed and voluminous!
The dialogue between Al and Hopper and Al and Mike is creepy!
Robin's performance on the radio is where the season started and ended, it's just a pity that Steve wasn't there with her! Steve found his calling in kids, and we knew he was the best babysitter)))
Graduation is great, Dustin is a star, as I wrote above!
To be honest, I liked the older friends' joint scene more than the younger ones. The older ones seem to be looking at a bright future together, and the younger ones say goodbye and leave, although they are the ones who don't break up, Mike, Lucas and Max stay at Hawkins, Dustin is a day away, only Will has traveled far, but I think he will return to his friends after school! I am glad that Jonathan's dream of studying in New York has come true! And Nancy, who didn't go to school in order to study, but is really looking for herself! And Mike, who followed in her footsteps, is not journalism, but still writes!
And of course, I liked the fact that Dustin and Steve's friendship has not ended, no one will ever replace each other!!! Steve and Dustin will definitely never break up!)))
I really love the afterword in TV series, so such a long epilogue did not confuse me, but I was very pleased! I really love these characters, but I didn't want to look that far, it would have been better if they had done it 6 months ago, where the main characters still haven't separated, Joyce and Hopper's wedding would have been shown, maybe a Snow Ball, Max's recovery, how Dustin revives Hellfire club, being a schoolboy, and not when he graduated (but this in no way detracts from his graduation speeches), not their future, but the present!
I don't know how, but I think the older ones will really see each other a lot, because they have long become more than friends, they are all one family! I do not exclude that in the future, the roads of not only the elders, but also the younger ones will unite and bring them all home to Hawkins again, or maybe they will find a common home in another place, where there are three waterfalls!
I believe that El survived! Why did they give us Kali back, just to kill someone?! She wasn't a traitor, and she had nothing to do with Vecna. Since Kali was returned, her role should be to help El escape, it was clear that Hopper's speech changed Kali's mind about El's future, I think Kali just wanted a bright future for El, she realized that in her case it was possible! As we remember from season 4, El can trigger the heart, so Kali was able to survive the shot!
And if El hadn't run away, then why would we show scenes with her escape, we could just verbally describe it. Mike is right, because of the jammers, El would not be able to use her abilities to communicate with him, besides, they specifically focus on the speaker! And Al told Mike herself, tell your friends everything! Hopper's speech also influenced El, I think she listened to him, she realized that he was right, a happy future is possible!
But if she survived, then this is the most stupid turn on the part of the scriptwriters, to make Mike, Hopper, friends and El herself suffer, hiding the truth from everyone! They could have gone to this village with Mike, Hopper, and Joyce!
In the scene of El's appearance at the waterfalls, I missed Mike appearing from behind, but in my mind, they will find each other, as it was in the second season!!!
In my rating, the first, second and fourth take the first place, the second in the third season, and the fifth completes.
The Duffers trapped themselves with a gorgeous Season 4! We tried to beat them, but we didn't put the squeeze on them, we were too focused on saying goodbye, and we had to let go a little bit, because this is the final season! And their overblown speculation that this is the biggest, most powerful season, artificially inflating the expectations of the audience, also played a cruel joke on them!
To be honest, after season 4, I don't really want to review Season 5, just Max, skateboarding again, and Dustin's graduation speech!
And they never told us what secret Hopper was hiding from El!
And everyone also forgot about El's mom, who also has abilities, Hopper found her without difficulty, and if someone wants to revive the program again, they will find her even faster!
And about the rest of the unanswered questions, about the motivation of the villains, and so on, you can not even mention)))
They said there would be a reference to the spinoff in the finale, but somehow I didn't find it. About the rescued children, but they said that there would be a new place and new characters, and what to shoot about them, everything supernatural was over, and in the OSD the guys had a camera with superpowers, but it's not clear what to shoot?!
Personally, I wanted to see a spinoff about 59, young Hopper, Joyce and the rest! Or about El, about her new beginning, becoming independent, about her simple life and reuniting with friends!
And of course about Steve and Robin and their job search, maybe at least an animated one, but it's definitely unrealistic)))
Also regarding the spinoff, maybe it will be a D& D game where the cast of the OSD will be the characters of the game, it seems to be related to the main series, and at the same time new characters and stories But it's probably not real either)))
And for Justin as a whole, I'm glad that he's back, he's started smiling again, he's survived that traumatic experience and now he's stronger, but not more depressed.
I realized a simple truth — this is a series for teenagers, children aged 13 will really like it. And the scriptwriters stuck to it to the end, maybe unfortunately and maybe not. It's just the way it is. None of the main characters were killed, because it's very painful and too adult. That's what makes everything look so childish. Nevertheless, I think it's a good conclusion. Not good = high-quality, but good and kind.
There's nothing to say about the quality here, everything was clear from the first episodes. Plot holes, unfinished lines of characters, which could often be completed with a dialogue of a couple of phrases (for example, about Dustin's girlfriend).
I liked that the villain is just a villain, not an misunderstood genius. I will not list the rest of the pros and cons, as they continue to hang from the first episode.
As a conclusion to what I've been watching for 10 years, and what I've grown up on is good. And the new generation (as well as the new generation of children in the series) will surely enjoy this series.
immediately after watching the finale, I liked it, except for some points, including those related to Wheeler and Byers, but despite this, later during discussions and reflections, more and more questions began to appear about the series as a whole:
and the main question
10. What's under Lucas' bed?
Dustin's speech is simply legendary, I really liked it, especially the reaction of his mom ahahah
That, by the way, was Eddie's wish.:
But again, it's not clear what happened in those 18 months, which is why all the graduates applaud the freak in the Hellfire sect T-shirt. :/
I'm starting to watch someone die? I don't know. Did someone die in the end? I don't know...
but the question remains open - why absolutely all the military chased after El and the rest, without saving pregnant women, some other things from the laboratory... Where are the military? did they just leave?))))
The final battle with the monster and Vecna and the joint actions of friends were breathtaking!
Odie's fate was predictable, but in the hearts, memories, and fantasies of her friends, she will always be alive and with them, but somewhere on her best journey!
Narrator Mike famously described the fate of his friends!
I am very happy for Joyce and Jim, but the fact that they will become a married couple in the final was also read)
Justin's graduation speech was wonderful, in his rebellious style and like the "Icing on the cake" of the Iron Maiden song "Trooper", which played when he threw off this really stupid colored robe :-)
The scenes a few years later were very touching and nostalgic)
It's been a good 5 seasons of cool story!
Congratulations to everyone on the Finals and New Year's holidays! New interesting series and stories for everyone in the new year and in the future!
I liked the battle, but after that there is almost an hour of the episode, and now it turned out to be protracted.
Maybe if it weren't for Netflix's desire to make more money by dividing the season in such a strange way, the impressions would have been different, but after the epic first 4 episodes, the second half was a little disappointing. 🙄
I also want Henry to be good. Here! He dared to enter his most terrifying and tragic memory, then switched sides and fought against the spider with Eleven. He died in battle, for example, but before he died he asked his sister to live! And then she wouldn't have died.
+ I don't believe in the hologram from my sister. And I can't believe that her foster father reacted to her loss like that. In fact, it seems that Odie's death only worries about her boyfriend Mike. By and large, they were not her friends. Nobody.
still, I think Audie died, because she would have contacted Mike in a year and a half if she had just run away..
Mike is such an amazing writer. 💥💥🤭
I HOPE FOR A SPIN-OFF OF WILL AND HIS BOYFRIEND PLEASE 🙏
And Max is so beautiful.
AND DUSTIN'S GRADUATION SPEECH IS KILLER.
HELLFIRE CLUB RULES
we survived, guys ((
(I will show this series to my children))
It's sweet in the end, but it'll do. Yes, they've been making money since the second season, but at least it's not that bad. There is always 1 season
"For our characters to move on and for the story of Hawkins and the Upside Down to come to a close, Eleven had to go away".
And whether she is alive or dead has not been confirmed, so even in an interview there will be no exact answers.
And then I started to think about how much they spat on the details and made plot holes, which is innumerable. All the fan theories about season 5 were much more interesting than the season itself. Literally, only Kali died. Very strange Cases has raised the bar, the degree of tension, and the danger of villains with each season. This season... Vecna is not terrible at all, everyone survived, all the details were forgotten. Nightmare. It could have been done much better.
I am also glad that Steve survived (they wrote above that it was very stupid when he was the only one who rolled to the cliff, I agree with the comment. If Steve had died, it would have been a ridiculous death.) I'm also glad that he became a coach, and in general for all the older children, perhaps because I'm closer to them myself than to the main characters.
Hopp and Joyce. <3 I am pleased that we showed the characters' everyday life after all the main events and devoted a lot of time to it.
The ending with DND is very heartwarming, I myself saw the Story to the end and, firstly, I was pleased with the familiar names, and secondly, I know what the end of a big story feels like and it is very symbolically superimposed on the end of the series itself. The way the guys put the folders on the shelves and left the basement, and then a new generation of children came running there... Unbelievable. It's a very nice ending, despite all the jambs.
1) a man with a suitcase and a stone:
During World War II, the U.S. government conducted the Rainbow Project, in which they tried to make various things invisible to gain an advantage in the war. As part of this, there was the Philadelphia Experiment (1943), in which the military tried to make the ship "Eldridge" invisible. But something went wrong, and the ship was transported to Dimension X, then returned to Earth again. Dr. Brenner's father was on the ship. The DNA of those who were on the ship somehow changed, Dr. Brenner's father was injured and told his son about this dimension X before he died. Therefore, Dr. Brenner became obsessed with studying this dimension. It was Brenner who would later lead the Nevada Experiment near Area 51 (the labs were in Nevada). They somehow got the stones from dimension X (maybe they visited there, or maybe the people from the ship brought them in 1943). One of the employees stole a suitcase with a stone for the purpose of sabotage and wanted to hide it in a cave. Henry Krill, whose father also worked on this project, climbed into the cave by chance and met the fugitive. The scientist (already under the influence of the stone) wanted to shoot Henry, who turned out to be faster, hammering the scientist with boulders. He opened the briefcase and that was it, the dark matter that was in the stone captured Henry.
2) at the beginning of the season, Will painted a wormhole on the gate, that is, a bridge between X and Hawkins. That is, the inside out)
3) the torturer in the form of dark matter has always existed in this dimension of X. He probably had no such goal, just like any living being, he seeks to reproduce and spread out under other worlds.
I really didn't want the First shadow to fit into the plot of the series, fearing that they would whitewash Henry, make him a victim, and this would devalue all the horrors that he did, and make the main culprit otherworldly evil. But they did it differently, and that's cool. Henry is not a weak-willed victim, he chose to be on the side of evil.
I was expecting El's death, but when I saw the footage from the shoot with sad Mike and Hop, I was sure. It's very cool that we weren't shown a miraculous rescue, but only an assumption that it could have been. It turned out that, in principle, this was shown to us in the finale of the first season, which the series could have ended with if it hadn't become a hit: Al saves everyone and dies, but maybe not, there is hope (Hop left waffles in the woods there).
It was very funny at the end of Montauk, where the action of the series was originally supposed to take place :)
Steve as a coach is super easy, it couldn't be better. The guy found himself :) and it also turned out that, in principle, the Duffers gave a spoiler about Steve when his figurine was pushed off the table on Kimmel's show :)
My personal opinion is that El died after all, and Mike invented the rescue story to move on. It seems to me that the suppressors weren't turned on when everything was happening, and Kali had to live a long time and create an illusion at a great distance to make it work.
But in any case, it's very cool that this version was shown to us, presumably without answering the question of whether it's true. Such finales are the best for me, because they give hope and don't have excessive sweetness.
And yes, the disappointment of many is inevitable, because when completing a project of this scale, expectations are always overheated. I'm glad to be among those who enjoyed everything.
And there is no blood under the nose, although when minds were connected with Kali in the previous episode, as far as I remember, there was.
I also saw claims about why Steve was the only one who almost fell off the tower, but it seems logical: right before falling, he runs away from the breaking tower spire, while the others are more or less static. So his position was simply the most precarious of all.
But the line with Odi is not very ending, of course.😓
All the commentators' theories have not been confirmed, and I am glad of that.,
You can't think of a better ending to this story, it all ended well 🤍
The only positive things for me personally are the new kids who dragged the series with a good flavor and the ending with them. Notes of nostalgia from the first seasons. A mysterious stone that is clearly going to be milked by a spin-off.
Otherwise, the same... are there provocations around the release of the finale, they say, there will be a break in the template and prepare for unexpected deaths? They killed a minor character, even a minor one. And they made a scene with a cheap provocation of Steve's "death." Let's clap!
They smeared the dialogues with forgiveness as best they could, diluting them with an attempt to play on the nostalgia of the amazing first season (the success of which, of course, was not even close to being repeated all the time). Didn't you get the joke with the military, who just let everyone go and just left? After so many deaths, sabotage? (But that's okay, let's let it go). Personally, it seems to me that something was missing in the story with Vecna, because it turns out that he is just a consumable or something and the main boss has remained in that dimension? And in general, the plot with the warriors, because all the GGS act as if they didn't realize the consequences and just let everything slip away. And this is the confession of poor Will's century, while the world is collapsing against the background of everything, his friends and acquaintances may die, and he cannot admit that he is not like everyone else, although all this time Robin is like, OK, I'm just here, yes. It was difficult to prescribe character development on any other basis.
Jonathan, I'm so surprised, I take my hat off.
Who finally opened the door to the Byers house in the first season when Will was abducted?;
why didn't Will get hurt/killed after destroying Mindflair (Torturer) or Vecna, if he is literally connected to highmind;
What happened to the pregnant women, the base, and the dozens of scientists and military personnel who worked there;
why was no one from the GG responsible for the large-scale murder of the military, and how did Hopper become sheriff again;
What happened to Dr. Kay, and where did she come from, and how is she related to Dr. Brenner?;
where is Max's mom anyway;
etc, etc.
I'll make a reservation: I understand that the mass audience is not interested in thinking about plot twists and turns, especially if the series is included in the background or to brighten up the time, but when you've been following the project for 9+ years, and the creators, who have scattered dozens of guns, literally promise to answer all the questions and link the plot branches together, but they don't none of this (except characters' assassination), it's hard to call it a good, digestible ending.
Because we were shown Kali's memories, she was probably caught somewhere after the second season, judging by the capture scenes, they experimented for a while (and it's not clear exactly where it happened), then, realizing that Kali's blood wasn't working, they began to hunt El intensively, because the subjects were dying.
And even if she was caught only after the fourth season, when Hawkins was already under quarantine, it was a year and a half according to the timeline.
Everything Mike tells is essentially his invention as a storyteller, allowing him to leave the ending open. Is Odie still alive? It's up to you. But in any case, it was her choice. Did Will really let Mike go and meet someone else? It's up to you too. But it is worth noting that he is strong and was able to accept himself, and this is the most important thing. In Mike's story, Dustin continues to study, but also manages to spend time with Steve, and Lucas and Max finally went to the movies.
I am truly happy for Lucas and Max, for Steve, who became a coach, for Jim and Joyce, who decided to start again. I look back now and realize that it's been 10 years (they left the finale for January first on purpose), but it all started with one game, after which Will confessed to Mike that he had thrown a seven and said, "Demogorgon grabbed me."
Thanks for this story! Still, it was interesting, and the actors playing the characters literally grew up before our eyes. It was amazing, guys.
2. some kind of overcooked feces this season. I'm sorry for the time spent (c)
I'm now sure that the script of the first season was stolen by duffers from someone who knows how to write
Perhaps the Duffers wanted to cause such feelings, but for what…
I expected to hear Who wants to live forever, but my heart was softened by Iron Maiden and Bowie
Otherwise, it's like I've been tricked. I was waiting for a tragedy, like with Eddie's death. I waited for the bomb to count down and they all run from the inside out to the heartbreaking music and someone doesn't have time. (I understand that I made it up for myself and I was upset myself)
But still
I was waiting for some kind of tragedy, but in the end, all the main ones remained alive. Like really? What are the shields of immortality? Did they literally go to another dimension to fight and all survived?
Honestly, after Odie's "death" it was already boring to watch. I was glad that Steve became a coach and Dustin's speech.
In short, the expectations were not fulfilled. After the fourth season, this one sank in terms of emotional stress. The first four episodes were top, but then …
All good things come to an end. The main thing is to finish superbly and without getting bored.
Thanks to the series, I had a great adventure with the characters.
I went to read the comment and was surprised by the number of dissatisfied people)
The series, in principle, was not particularly surprising after season 2, it was a good series for 4 and the finale turned out to be quite predictable, the same for 4.
goodbye, goodbye 👋
I can't even remember the name of the main theme, it's a slow-motion version. I hope someone will help....
Yes, it was a less epic fight against evil compared to other seasons, but everything else was as it should be at the end of a series about true friendship and devotion - sentimental, touching and with faith in the best.
@g1520426: as it is fashionable to say now. Can I? But why?
It's a horror movie, they watch it to get an adrenaline rush and are ready for everything in advance. By the way, I haven't watched horror movies, and I don't watch them)))
But here's a story of friendship, love, growing up, and adventure. Yes, spiced up with horror.
There's horror everywhere in life right now. I want a kind and bright ending, which we were given)
The Lord of the Rings is also over. Harry Potter. The Chronicles of Narnia.
Now, more than ever, it's nice to see that after any fuck, there can be a happy ending.
And it's very sad that people don't even need happy endings in the cinema)
Drama is not just about death)
No one says that drama is death. For example, I'm for HE, I just pointed out that the GP example does not apply here exactly.
But for example, I don't see any drama at all in the final of the SD, the direction here is such that there was no one to worry about. It's very forced, it's all filmed
We finished the story kindly and with a little hope)
we distributed both fire and sweets 🫶🏻
I hope they'll make a spinoff about her for at least 3-4 seasons, otherwise it's not okay.
Either the same story will happen, or the main characters will be filmed with the kids. Then Eleven will show up at Hawkins.
The arches are closed, everyone has a finale, some even have an open one, so I'm sorry, I don't understand the general discontent.
Why is it literally impossible to kill Vecna with bullets and fire, but the torturer of the mind who gave Vecna power is afraid even of spears? Kindergarten
Why is there air on that planet at all, it's literally another planet?
And there are a lot of unanswered questions.
. I am very glad that the series was divided into two parts: combat and life after
the ending turned out to be good, each character fulfills his desires.
But there are a couple of questions
: what happened to Robin's girlfriend Vicky?
she was there, but she disappeared somewhere
with Dustin's girlfriend, the same story
. It was very pleasant and warm to look at the ending because the characters lived a NORMAL life, the last two seasons would have seen the struggle with vecna and the end became very emotional for me
. What about Audie- is she alive? We can only wonder
because In the end, everyone said, "we believe in this version
," but that doesn't mean it's true.
Of course, I was expecting something more epic and some heart-rending deaths, but....
The series still occupies a separate place in the heart.
And I'm glad that everyone is doing well. I hope Mike's theory about Audie is correct.
It's like a piece of me has been torn off😭
Thanks to my comment on the OSD in this application, we met my husband 5 years ago and are already raising our daughter, who will soon be 2 years old.
May everything be fine with you 🤗
Yes, there are few projects that we have been watching for decades)))
My beloved lost is only 6 years old.
It's just that these 2 hours have passed absolutely smoothly.
My ass doesn't burn because the ending is terrible (it's not). But he didn't cause any excitement or powerful emotions either.
Just neutral.
Just Ok
I'm just crying because one of my favorite TV shows is over.
All bye.
It seems to me that the fans have dug themselves a hole with theories and predictions that have created inflated expectations from the series.
It's basically a fairy tale, compared to how most films ended in the 80s. There are no deaths of favorite heroes (with the exception of 11), the villain is defeated, justice has prevailed. And if you look at it like a fairy tale and don't dig deep, then there won't be so many disappointments.
And I'm glad none of the pets got hurt. A special like for Steve the coach. It would seem that such a bad boy is a ladies' man in the beginning, but in fact he gets along well with kids and wants to be the father of six toddlers) Well, what a sweetheart, I can't)
Dustin - luboff)
I'm glad Mike has thawed out, because he's been a little down all season, and the last episode let him talk. Yes, it's a pity that he didn't have an endgame with El. But I'm fine with this bittersweet situation.
I believe! ❤
it had been a long time since it had brought tears to my eyes so sincerely and so sincerely.
Thank you for devoting so much time to the future of heroes.
It turned out to be like two endings, Ala Schrodinger's cat, it seems like she's gone and she doesn't seem to be there, and she's nearby... The sly ones...
Everyone chooses their own.
The ending is great, I really enjoyed it.
Thank you all.
PS you can watch the series a little later in a row)))
1) Every season there was an escalation of the threat, there were injuries to the heroes or secondary assistants. After each season, there was a feeling of a hard victory. Every season was a real suspense, we were really worried about the characters, for example, in season 4, when we were introduced to a character, and then brutally killed him.
Then Max and Nancy came for them, which means that no one is protected, hence the excitement for the heroes.
In the last season, it WASN'T NECESSARY to kill someone from the gg to leave the same suspense, it was just necessary to show that everyone is vulnerable to such evil.
2) Let me remind you that Vecna and the Torturer (albeit with the help of children) are a couple capable of "dropping" one world onto another... and not just "regular monsters"
, it was probably worth giving a couple of attempts to lose them, and not to work out all the ideas on the first try.. And, of course, use bullets and spears to neutralize the main antagonist... Yes, he probably shouldn't be too physically strong.. after all, his strength lies precisely in his mental capabilities - after all, he is a Torturer of the MIND...
Well, just compare the final battles of the 4th and 5th seasons.
3) I also think the creators shouldn't have "disconnected" the characters from the rest of the city... It was a bit like a theatrical production, when the "fighting" took place as if at a training ground where there were no more people, as if everything was happening outside the city.
And the last shots of season 4 seemed to hint that the inside would break through into reality, which means that ordinary people will face this, and not just an earthquake.
4) The second half of the series about future destinies is good, but IMAGINE:
The season comes out with maximum suspense and a great battle entirely in November and early December, and an additional episode is unexpectedly released on New Year's Eve, which shows how the fate of the characters developed further.
Mike cried the whole story 💔 I 'll definitely review it one day 🫶🏻
From the point of view of the ending of the plot, it's just an ending. No emotions, either positive or negative. That's just an evil villain, because people are bad, that's the template warriors. Predictable plot flow. Previous seasons evoked emotions, but nothing here. It was as if they had sold the very vibe of the series for trying to finish everything, and besides, they had stretched it a lot.
I'm surprised the Duffers were able to reveal themselves in the final episode. Finally, it became known how Henry got these powers and why this memory did not let him into the cave.
I saw that many people didn't like the ending. Most of the negative reviews were towards the lack of Backers. But you know what? This is much more logical than if the T-shirt suddenly changed orientation.
The ending is sad, but realistic. All the fuss from the inside out in the first season started because of Audie's powers (even if Henry was the original instigator), and it all ended with her. There was hope that she was alive during Mike's last story, but that's just his fiction (right???)
I am glad that Max was shown on a skateboard, because it was with him that she was associated. I'm also happy for their couple with Lucas.
Dustin. I was really worried about him because of the merged moments from the shooting. He wouldn't have survived Steve's death. I'm glad he finally dared to say everything in a speech haha
Saint 4. Nancy, Steve, Jonathon and Robin still remained united. Even in different cities. But the fact that Steve is the only one left at Hawkins is surprising.
I don't know what the others didn't like about the ending, but it all seemed symbolic to me. The series began with D&D, and ended with it. The grown-up players have passed on their legacy to the younger generation. Everyone will go to college, Joyce and Hopper finally went to Entso, everything is (relative) happy. It's just a pity that Hop has already lost his daughter for the second time.
Happy finals and happy New Year to all of you
Hopefully, not a million years later, for a special episode (for Halloween, for example)...our heroes after ~ 10 years or more) Steve will have 6 children!!!
Of course, there's nowhere without a window, that Oddy is a kind of Schrodinger's cat
Stranger Things has always been a series on 4 for me, and it has remained so. Good, well-made, but not great, so not 5.
Congratulations to everyone on the final and happy New year 2026! 🎄🥳🎉
I liked it) honestly, it was interesting, sometimes scary for the characters, sometimes sad to the point of tears.
The moments of saying goodbye to childhood are so bittersweet, but they give a sense of completion of a certain stage in life.
The story about Odie and the waterfalls gave me hope at the end. I also don't accept her choice and I'm grateful to the Duffers that they didn't kill her love for the series after all)
I will definitely review the whole story, maybe in a couple of years I will show it to my eldest daughter.
Everyone is alive, and that's good. But this season is clearly weaker than the previous one. It has a lot of disadvantages.
-annoying characters in the person of Robin with her cringe jokes and antics, Will with his eternally sad face and tears.
- an extra character in the person of Kay, with all due respect to Linda Hamilton, all she did was walk back and forth and smirk pathetically.
"The Secret was leaked too easily. For 2 seasons, we were shown how omnipotent he is, and then the kids "kicked" him. Okay.
One of the advantages is the graphics of the spider-like monster, it was epic and scary.
There's a separate plus for "Heroes" in the credits.
Back then, El wasn't in her prime yet, Will didn't have his abilities to get into Anna's mind, Max and the kids hadn't mentally exhausted him yet)) in general, everything doesn't look so fantastic if you understand that they literally all took part in the fight at the moment and, most importantly, they knew what they knew and what Vecna was capable of. What didn't happen in the fourth season
And when they showed it 18 months later, I didn't believe it at all, I thought Vecna had caught them and connected them to the simulation, I kept waiting for the mirage to pass.
I didn 't have enough excitement 🤷🏻♀️
I liked the ending. It would be better to show how Odie and Will synergistically fight Vecna and how Will's power progressed after he "stopped being afraid." The uniqueness of the SD is that many sci-fi tropes, which usually look faded in the movies, work here precisely because they occur "in the head." The Duffers have masterfully learned how to immerse the viewer into the psyche of the characters and show the action at this level — visually, intensely and meaningfully. And that's why the final battle especially lacks the same spectacular and thoughtful "psychological" action game. At the same time, they all needed to place the emphasis correctly, that both Will and Odie were needed, each would have their own unique and well-deserved role. In short, of all those tasks, we couldn't cope with one fat one.
I'm waiting for any spin-offs. The final buzz, the final buzz, according to the emotions of peak cinema. After all, the series initially used the inside out as a metaphor for the difficulties of growing up, so it's not surprising that the victory turned out to be a bit abstract - the victory already happened when the children began to believe in themselves, stopped being afraid of their monsters, and began to take responsibility for their decisions. I personally cried the whole episode, and in almost every slow scene someone was crying, it turns out they were crying together.
The strongest thing is to see how they have grown. It seems that yesterday they were little kids in the basement playing D&D, and now they are adults, conscious people. The ending turned out to be incredibly touching and correct. It's definitely the end of an era. Thank you for this trip!
Well, as a whole, it's a good straight ending, if you accept the fact that it's a happy ending for all the characters. Of course, it's beautiful, but you have to be happy about beautiful things. But a little drama was expected about one of the key Persians, namely death. But not everything can be what we would like.
I rate the final 7.8 out of 10. I recommend completing the series with this episode for everyone. Although it's a bit not what I would like to expect, which is quite obvious.
1:30 more conversations, half an hour of some kind of action
In 10 minutes, the guys just unwound the super-strong superzlo and came out without a single scratch. It's too sweet and fabulous. (Demogorgons, awww, where did you all go? 🤔)
Audie's self-sacrifice caused absolutely no emotions. Was it because of Millie's game or was it because of the disappointment of the improbable final battle 🤔
The theories and bets on death have absolutely not been justified. Steve, thanks for being alive.
Remembering previous seasons, it feels like I watched a children's cartoon with a happy vanilla ending (As many have said before). I really liked the first 4 episodes of the 5th and raised the expectations high. Unfortunately, we got what we got. Part 2, on the whole, is pretty good, at 3.5))
Thanks for this series, it's a very cool idea and filming. Anyway, he will remain in the top for me 💥 But after this finale, I will leave my beloved Darkness in 1st place 💜 (before the beginning of the 2nd half of the 5th season, I even began to doubt))
The finale of El, well, purely her finale of the first season - how many years, how many hours of watching, and returned to the same point, with the same emotions of the characters
It was incredibly cool in places! In some places, of course, not so much ...
and there were plot holes too ...
forgotten characters...
But on the whole, I really like this series and I enjoyed my time. I will miss these guys. But it's over. Maybe it could have been better... no. One hundred percent could have been better. But I'm happy with the ending.
Seasons 3 and 4 are my favorites, but one day I'll go nuts and review all 5 seasons with a marathon.
Honestly, this is impossible and even wrong, in my opinion, to evaluate. It's just something that everyone needs in life to make their life better. And the fact that it's all decorated in such beautiful and fascinating scenery is just one big plus.
- Why did Odie decide to commit suicide? Like it's all about her blood, blah blah blah, they're going to make crazy supers out of her like Henry, OK, it even sounded logical. Until it was explicitly shown to us that Henry was actually acting in tandem with (or under the control of) an alien creature that had just been killed. So why do you need this now? Just for the glass?
Although when she was standing there in that hurricane and her hair wasn't even moving, she immediately looked like an illusion.
- Everyone has already spoken about Will, who lost the connection of minds "suddenly", who could...
- What's with the military? Did they shrug their shoulders, spit on teenagers and an old man who had shot half their bases before and stole state secrets and divulged them right and left and went home?
- The final battle took place exactly like their epilogue "DnD" campaign - without a single roll of the dice, everything was according to the script, entered, killed, exited. Moreover, they planned to kill one super monster, and in the end they also overwhelmed the alien Godzilla with one left hand. It really felt like they were already cocooned there and dreaming...
and it seemed good that the ending was in the style of the 80s - when happy endings were made into real happy endings, and not like now - necessarily with some kind of bastard. But somehow this epilogue, about the size of half a full-fledged movie, was annoying and not impressive... Only the graduate's speech pleased me. Personally, I didn't have enough emotions for the finale of such a series...
I'm glad for this ending. Maybe some fan theories were more interesting, but I liked the way Vekna was treated, that we were given so much quiet and joyful life for all the characters, flashbacks were shown - and damn, how quickly other people's children grow up! How small they were in the first season, but Will and 11 already had to go through a lot back then... I really liked Will, especially this season.
I will miss this atmosphere.💖
Like Mike, I don't believe El is dead. But the theory from the Eighth does not seem very realistic, if only because she would have managed to die from a shot 30 times. Unless you created the illusion initially, of course.
We've completed all the branches except for Suzy. Where is she, Dustin?
Well, Derek! just the opening of the season and a ray of light in this darkness! At that moment, it seemed that Henry would switch sides with the guys.. That would be a twist, of course.. although it would break absolutely the entire character structure.
in principle, I like the ending, I like to think that El somehow escaped, I, like the guys, believe in it. thanks to strange deeds for everything, I grew up with them and saw how the guys grew up, how they turned from children into beautiful boys and girls, this is literally my favorite story, which I will endlessly return to, even if it is not perfect and full of plot holes. 💔
The turnaround with Henry was good. I'm glad they didn't whitewash him, saying how poor and unhappy he was, as some theories suggested. He killed a man as a child. Well, that alone makes it clear what a piece of shit he is. I liked the battle itself.
What I didn't like was that we still didn't get answers about the Underside and the Torturer. Maybe because it's planned to save it for spin-offs or for a prequel? I hope so, but it's kind of sad.
Well, the military doesn't sew a pocket on a star this season. Purely for show, so that there would be some kind of enemy standing in the way of the
I think the ending with Odie is perfect for such a story. A happy ending would be too banal, as well as an obvious death. But uncertainty is the most important thing (well, if one day they suddenly want to release a sequel, they won't have to think about how to resurrect her, ahah), everyone will decide for themselves what happened to her. I'm on the team of those who believe that she survived)
Overall, it's a great end to almost 10 years of history (as I remember now, in 2016 I decided to watch a couple of episodes of an unfamiliar TV series before going to bed, and eventually went to bed in the morning ahah). I was worried that the finale would be deleted and I would never review the series again. But no, they didn't leak it, so I'll review it more than once)
Thanks to Netflix, the authors, and the cast. Now we are waiting (or not waiting) for prequels, spin-offs, and more.
SD cards will always remain in my heart.
And of course, I'm really looking forward to the spin-offs in this universe.☺️
I want to say that:
It's a pity, though, that this is the end. I hope for spin-offs and continuations of the universe.
And how Vecna was killed... Such a character, such an actor, such power! And it's such a pity that they just gathered their strength and killed him in the yellow flower garden. And then we spent a whole hour reflecting on omg
I feel sorry for Oddie, of course. They hinted very faintly, but a spin-off is likely.
Everyone is alive except 8. To a generally unpopular character.
The Duffer brothers, don't become the Wachowski sisters!
Thank you so much for such emotions, very cool overall!!! Thank you.
I'm one of those who got into the finals.
Indeed, the heroes have already experienced so much that there are enough deaths and constant tin for them.
Steve, I was so worried about him, I thought everything. I even fell in love with Jonathan, even though I never really liked him.
The rooftop scene where the guys were sitting and chatting is just heartwarming🥰 How beautiful Robin is with long hair! I really hope that Steve will finally meet his one and only one and be happy.✨ He deserved it!
Lumax - perfect! It is very warm to see how their relationship went from being very childish to conscious.
Dustin and his graduation speech are just gorgeous.
Erica, Willer's mom, Dustin's mom - you're great!
The moment the heroes defeated Vecna, it didn't seem to me that everything happened quickly. They've been preparing for this for so long... I'm proud of them. Especially that they were all finally in the same place and fighting together. And Audie wasn't alone in this fight.
I really wanted a good ending for her. She suffered so much in her whole life that she only found her own people and that's how it turned out. Thanks to Hopper, who, although not for long, was a loving parent, protective, protecting for her.
Depending on the OSD, you want to have such friends. I will review it more than once.
I liked the epilogue, it's always interesting what happens to the characters after a while, but for me, the timing of the epilogue relative to the entire series is too long - almost half. It would be better to reveal in more detail the motivation of the Desiccator and the history of the stone from another dimension than to once again amuse the feelings of the fans.
In general, the finale leaves a strange aftertaste, on the one hand, you are calm for the characters and happy for the new generation of fans, but on the other hand, it is very annoying that all five seasons have pumped up so much horror to merge the main villain in 5 minutes, without even injuring a single character from the team. I am generally silent about plot holes and the understatement of some points.
1. Did the final battle just kill Vecna? Seriously? And where is the epic confrontation?
2. Did we save the world without a single sacrifice? It's cool, but it doesn't happen that way. In such battles, someone must necessarily suffer/ die for a stronger shock effect and memorable drama.
3. Oddie's sacrifice after the battle looks illogical to me. They could initially calculate the fact that they would be expected and secure her return by lying that she died inside out with her sister.
4. Did the military just let everyone go and leave?
5. What about the children? Did they just accept the fact that they were abducted by a monster from some other world? Are they playing quietly in the basement now?
6. Where is Wiki? Where did she go? It's been 18 months and it's like she didn't exist.
7. Where did the connection between Vecna and Will go? Why didn't Will feel anything when he was killed?
8. Mike's theory. First of all, he came up with it for himself to cope with the pain of losing Oddie. But there was no way she could survive the facts. Kali was injured. And too much time has passed since she was injured - Oddie found Vecna, killed him, then they freed the children and managed to return (slowly, although there was a countdown to the explosion, which means there was plenty of time for about 25-30 minutes (as I understand it, the whole album should have been played, not a couple of songs), this is where- that's at least an hour.) And for such an illusion, it takes a lot of strength, and even if Kali was somehow still alive at the time of their return to the real world, she simply would not have enough strength for such an illusion.
But in another way, Steve is alive, and that's what I'm most happy about.
Against the background of the mass whitewashing of villains from fairy tales (Evil, Maleficent, etc.), it even looks like some kind of breath of fresh air. Thank you for leaving him the way he was.
The first three seasons were a masterpiece, and then everything descended into some kind of stupid Marvel and a solid blockbuster. but with humor, I admit.
The soul and atmosphere of the first season are gone.
The abundance of fans, their stupid queerbating and fanservice ruined the series.
Chef's kiss of an ending
Nothing will ever beat this
In any case, it's not the first time I've said goodbye to the series, as I roared at the finale of the Vampire Diaries, nothing can beat it, after all, I'm already a senialomaniac with experience, but I'm unlikely to ever review the OSD
I missed Billy in my memories of previous seasons, and I didn't even see him in the credits. Nevertheless, he had a great influence on Max in season 4 and sacrificed himself at the end of season 3. But thanks for remembering Barb, I'm really glad.
And it wasn't enough in Dustin's happy story to find out about Susie^^
1) how, according to Mike's theory, would Odie have entered his mind (footsteps on water in the dark) if there were jammers? Like she did it when she was far away from this place already? And then why would she say goodbye to him like that forever and not hint in any way that she would live?
2) what is the music of the song that sounds at the end when Mike stands on the stairs and watches the children playing in the basement? The music is very familiar, but I can't understand it, and shazam doesn't define it.
Help-help
The first one was top. Then there is one fanservice.
1) Why does the desiccator need a physical embodiment? In all seasons, he appeared to us as just a vortex of particles, taking on a barely tangible form. Why take the form of such a vulnerable spider made of flesh? A vortex of particles would be much more difficult to fight.
2) Where did all the demogorgons and demops in the last episode go? Weren't they supposed to come to their master's aid like in season two? The battle would have become much less predictable.
3) When Vecna was fighting Odie inside the desiccator, he hit her a couple of times on the floor and ordinary flat surfaces, instead of impaling her on obviously sharp and deadly spikes, which Odie then took advantage of. Odi's story armor?
4) It's been written about many times, but why didn't Will feel anything during the battle? Why did the connection between him and the Desiccant miraculously work only one way? He was numb from much less damage, but here the Desiccant was literally burned alive.
5) It's a stupid question, but still - why is gravity and atmosphere normal for humans on another planet? It's clear that this is a serial convention, but it still looks strange after the first two seasons, where the military went inside out only in chemical costumes.protection and gas masks. Has the air inside and on another planet stopped being poisonous?
6) The origin of exotic matter. Was it invented by humans, or did the Desiccant have a hand in it too? Visually, it looked very similar to desiccant particles, but for some reason the vessel with it was only on the Hawkins side. Is only one vessel enough to maintain the wormhole?
7) Similarly, the issue of gravity from the inside of the Abyss. Why did Holly immediately start falling on the wrong side of Hawkins when she crossed into the wrong side of the Abyss? So the underside of Hawkins has gravity, but the underside of the Abyss doesn't? Does this have something to do with the presence of exotic matter on Hawkins' side?
There are a lot of questions, unfortunately, we won't see the answers anymore. It's a pity, I would like more disclosure.
P.S. Happy New Year to all! I hope it will be better than the previous one! Peace and love to all! 🎄🥂
4) And wasn't Will petrified not only by the connection with Vecna himself? Without reference to this Torturer of the mind? (that's what they call him in another voiceover)
5) Is this really a planet in our cosmic sense of the word, and not just another reality/dimension that the guys called it?
7) The Abyss has no underside at all. The previously called "wrong side" is just a bridge/wormhole, a place between two worlds (between the world of the Torturer and ours)
And Mike is just terrible, now that everyone has left, there are no friends around, the first love is dead. Moreover, it was difficult for him to confess his feelings to her, I can't imagine how he will continue to live with such a trauma. No wonder his psyche decided to defend itself and come up with something that couldn't happen. I liked the ending, although there were a lot of plot holes and grand pianos from the bushes, but it was still pleasant. It was possible to make it more complicated and original, but most likely, this was not approved by netflix. Because the narrative in season 5 is very different from the first, and the audience seems to have become much younger. In general, there were annoying things in the season, such as constant repetitions and pronouncements of plot events. But somehow it turned out to be warm anyway, the ending made me cry a lot. And I also had fun with the moment with best friends, I can imagine how those who believed in bayer were furious. By the way, I don't think it was a queerbyte, but rather that people are inadequate in their shipping.
nevertheless, I can't help but say that I really love this series, I grew up with the characters and actors, and it will always remain somewhere in my heart, even with all its flaws)
ending, or almost :)
the last episode, of course, causes contradictory emotions (as well as the whole season in principle), but this will not affect my opinion of the series for me personally
. I'm sure I'll periodically think about it and be nostalgic
, but now I'm going to go overboard or something;(
I was so hoping for a happy ending for the two of them.
I can't quite figure out if I liked it or not, but I'm impressed. It was a beautiful story.
The other question is that there are a lot of pregnant women inside, no one decided to save them, class
But it turned out that's really it, and they handled it so easily. My God, the Demogorgons from the first seasons gave them more shit than the MAIN villain of the series. Who can fuck brains and manipulate everyone. I watched the last hour of the episode with absolute insensitivity to each of the characters. At least the Duffers did it. It would have been better if everything had ended on prime season 4. There was a fuck-up, and this is a fuck-up
Al and Vecna's fight is also a disgrace. How fucked up these pointless throws are. El thought of impaling him on a fang, and Vecna beat her on the floor like a moron🤦♂️
First of all, if you discard absolutely everything that concerns logic and leave only emotions, forgetting about the plot and glossing over questions, then yes, you can feel some joy. In general, such a "positive" but open ending. But you know that the only thing I hate more than dumb endings is open endings that leave more questions than answers.
And now, in order, about everything that has been bothering me since the fourth season.:
So, I would like to note that the topic of being given a lot of questions and almost no answers is already some kind of separate trope in the genre of fantasy and mysticism. It feels like the author has been trying to paint the whole world and interpersonal relationships for so long that he forgot about the need for a single plotline and questions that he himself came up with.
Mike/Audie/Will
I really love ALL the characters, including Mike, but let's not kid ourselves and realize that because of the number of characters, the Duffers stupidly forgot that he needed to be prescribed. I'm already sick of shouting about queerbiting and the holy faith of the majority that Mike and Will should be together. No, damn it, they shouldn't. At least because the creators deliberately hammered a bolt into this line. I understand that you want to find some hints, and if you put on rose-colored glasses, then they are there, but the Bilers are not even close to Johnlock (where John always listened to Sherlock and Sherlock valued John's opinion only, and they also devoted a good half of their time to communication, mutual assistance and personal growth, while not negatively this did not affect the plot component)
This includes Melleven, whose relationship the Duffers also did not devote time to. They've been friends since the fourth season, not a couple.
Odi has been turned into God knows what! Well, she only has the superhero side left, and everything else has disappeared, although they tried to show us something else, but in vain. (And by the way, I can justify her disappearance from the inside out)
Therefore, considering everything that has happened over the past 5 seasons, Mike really shouldn't stay with anyone, because we don't see any development of any of these couples and it's time to stop cheating, well, really.
Dustin/Robin/nerd theme
What the hell had Vicky disappeared for?? Can someone explain this to me? What is the total destruction of couples?
Dustin, where's Susie? What's with flirting with a girl who was one of those who bullied you? I honestly don't understand, and I think it's the influence of the normality of the fandom and the unwillingness of the Duffers to bend the line to the end. Everything related to the nerd theme in this series has lost all weight and the characters themselves have forgotten who they are.
Jonathan/Nancy/Steve
Stancy shouldn't be a couple, and that's a fact, but Jonathan and Nancy are too, and we're ready for this conversation!
I get the impression that there was such a huge love for this couple purely because the actors are dating in real life, and they have a really good relationship. In fact, we can see from the attraction of the last couple of seasons that Jonathan and Nancy are actually not much of a couple, at least for the reason that even in conflict, when both sides were right, they did not try to find some kind of compromise to support each other and come to a common opinion, but simply continued swear. And this is not the first time this has happened.
Let's not forget how frivolous Jonathan was about everything in season 4, both his drinking spree and his addiction problems. I really love Jonathan as a character, and he's a really great big brother, but I haven't seen that in the last 2 seasons. And again, in order for us to see the excellent development of interpersonal relationships, we needed either fewer main and secondary characters, or more time in the series.
Steve, well, this is Steve. I'm glad he's alive, I'm glad he's moving on, it's a pity that in previous seasons he was in love with a man who openly ridiculed his dreams.
For the whole season, I'm only happy with Max and Lucas, to whom I have 0 complaints, and also Derek. I'll make a separate post about them.
No deaths
Yes, now everyone is screaming that the lack of deaths is unrealistic, but YOU YOURSELF SHOUTED THAT EVERYONE WAS ALIVE IN THE FINAL! What are we complaining about now???
The only thing I wanted in the finale was a really cool plan. Kamon, the dudes have been very successful at extinguishing monsters for years, and now they're all grown up and smart. Why not explain the happy ending with a cool plan?
Odi in the final
I completely understand the idea, and I knew almost from the first season that it would be the same theme as in Divergent, the Abrell Academy, and so on.
We were made clear that you are both the solution to the problem and partly the cause. I hate this plot line, but it's used so often that it's obvious.
I've already written a whole essay and I understand that it's a waste to read such a lot of information, so I'll give you a general idea and a couple more theses.
I am indignant because of the number of cut scenes and the number of holes in the plot. They never revealed the appearance of the wrong side in the series and did not explain the whole ENT. In general, they didn't explain much to us. We don't give a shit about actions. And then half of the final episode was devoted to the characters' lives after the timeskip, although THEY COULD ADEQUATELY CLOSE THE PLOT HOLES!? seriously?
And the general idea of everything described above is that it's NOT a GOOD idea TO INTRODUCE SO MANY PERSIANS AND PLOT LINES when you're not going to develop them in any way! And yes, if you have already introduced it, then please give everything and everyone a normal outcome!!! Increase the number of episodes, the timing of episodes, or at least briefly show the development!!!
The wormhole theme, it's interesting (the first thing I didn't guess)
that I understood, plus or minus, how it would end for the main ones.
Thought of Nancy's mate/Jonathan, someone's going to die, but it's even better this way.
With Steve, there's obviously a standard trope for such characters.
Hopper and Joyce are the same.
And with the main four, everything is logical too.
The Max line is controversial.
Why do the Wheeler children absolutely not care that their father was in a coma? Apparently they don't really like bodies.
And the moment in Henry's memories, Max says 11 and 8 that Ted is pestering Karen outside the door.
But we know that he is more than five years older than her, and they are at school at this moment.
That is, it turns out to be the father of Nancy, Mike, Holly.
Pedophile.
At the same time, he was not afraid of Demogorgon at all, but began to beat him very calmly, confidently, and you wouldn't say that about him at all, purely outwardly and in character from previous seasons. (But it's cool that he stood up for his family like that, so he's not such a jerk)
How could they show it like that
Where is the logic, the relationship?
Dustin and Steve are the best characters to develop, although Steve is very cliched.
Nancy is debatable.
I didn't like Jonathan as a character. There's nothing to say.
Will, it's almost cool, because the orientation is really stupidly imposed by Netflix, it wouldn't have affected the plot, but they introduced it on purpose, even into the plot itself.
Well, Robin and Will's orientation is like that, just because a certain number of characters from all minority groups are registered on Netflix.
And everything.
It could have been anyone.
But the Duffers apparently thought that Robin had gone from being a 3-plan character to a 2-plan character and it wouldn't hurt their eyes.
And Will had to be sacrificed (symbolically) because someone from plan 1 has to, obviously he comes to mind.
As for me, Mike almost guessed its ending when he told the guys.
The ability jammers were deployed for a reason. Except it wasn't Kali/8 who did the illusion, but Jane herself. Because we have already been shown that the radius of Kali's illusion is not so great, and the real 8 is either dead or mortally wounded by that moment. Since the abilities of all children based on Henry's blood and abilities are eternal, Jane also has the ability to illusions, and she saved herself by doing this.
Then Mike made a good guess.
Why didn't anyone come after this scientist?
After all, Henry stupidly hammered him with a stone, there are prints, etc.
Even if he hid the body.
They wouldn't stop looking for this scientist, given what he stole in the briefcase.
Who was hunting for the scientist and why? Why did he steal the briefcase at all?
What is the motivation of the diviner of the Abyss? Why did he delay everything for so long, because everything could have been done much easier.
If Henry is slightly stronger than 11 (yes, even if slightly weaker) When he teamed up with the Abyss, he was definitely stronger, so he could have opened a bunch of portals long ago.
After all, 11 has been able to do this since the first season.
(Only the human component of Henry will help with these questions)
My favorite: Where did the electricity come from? In season 4, in the finale, I noticed that Eddie and Dustin were using a wired drill, but in the final season, people built a base there, but it didn't work there for the first three seasons?
Why did they forget that the air inside is toxic to people and kills them?
It's generally fire: okay, toxic air inside, but still semi-suitable for humans because it's a buffer zone between our world and the Abyss, but why the hell is everyone in the Abyss breathing our air with oxygen?
Well, it's cinematic nonsense.
I'm generally silent about a hundred of the same logical questions about the Soothsayer, Demops, Demogorgons.
Paragraph.
How and when did Brener build a sphere containing a wormhole in the balance, if he wasn't there and couldn't even send his own people
And only after 11 abilities did you look for 1?
Where did Brenner get the stone from the abyss (and it's from there, it's a piece of the soothsayer) originally?
It turns out to be a loop with no response.
If you look at it from the child's side, the ending is good.
If it's from an adult, there are a lot of barbs and inconsistencies.
It's definitely worth reviewing
It will still remain a masterpiece.
It's already been written about 1000 times, so there's no point writing about it again.
It didn't affect the plot in any way, therefore it wasn't necessary to introduce it.
I felt a lot of emotions watching it!
And even now, my friends and I are discussing the finale, so I think that the scriptwriters did everything right, since there are discussions, discussions and theories 😉
I got burned out from some kind of trailer - these healthy moose (who obviously already have loans and mortgages and even their own children) are sitting in the basement and playing in the DnD. They should have finished the series while the actors were younger.
, what the fuck is this
I liked the last scene with DND, the continuity of generations, it was in the atmosphere of the series, everything else looked foreign somehow.
But I'm not a fan, I really liked the first season, everything that went on is not close to me at all, so I see the finale in the style of the last more fabulous seasons. I still feel like season 1 is separate, and season 2-5 is already another series, but with those characters.
And if you had already decided to follow the path of "devour glass", then you would have gone to the end. Why was only El hurt? And so it looks like we wanted a happy ending, but again, the main character can't get a happy ending. Well, I also see they were afraid to show that she was 100% dead, so as not to get a reaction like "Game of Thrones" and Netflix left the doors open for themselves, suddenly they want to make more money on this project.
No one died, no one cried, nothing was really revealed. It's worse than the ending of Game of Thrones. Mike is the most useless character in history, a bad friend and a terrible guy.
Only the arch of Steve and Dustin was pleased. Well, and lumax.
The canon has been written.
I'm thinking about the pros and I can't find them. The biggest disappointment is also the biggest queerbaiting in the history of cinema.
Netflix is shit
I liked the ending, it's the way such a story should be. Many took up the analysis of plot holes, which, of course, exist, but was it worth it at the end of the journey? All branches are closed optimally, with due optimism and acceptance of what happened. And the whole epilogue is like a good movie from the 80s, which brings that very warmth.
I agree that the Duffers chose a "safe" ending to some extent, keeping all their favorite characters alive (yes, I also believe in Mike's theory that Odie is alive), but if they killed half the team, it would kill all the light that the OCDS bring with them. And there would also be a bunch of unhappy deaths. Another thing is that it was a dubious decision on their part to force every epic ending in the media, but this is about the influence of the media on our opinion, you can't keep up with everything.
To the question of why Will stopped shying away from the damage of the Torturer and other things, I think that by coming out, he removed the internal block in himself, which made him invulnerable to attempts to control him. Nevertheless, the influence of everything that we have seen is as much psychological as possible, not physical.
What's really blurred for me is that the "wormhole" was introduced too quickly and quickly explained in two worlds, although it would have been necessary to allocate more details for this (we return again to the missed timing and fillers in the second half of the season). But in the future, we can see this in a spin-off (if it does take place).
Therefore, congratulations to all the viewers of this wonderful series on completing this journey in 10 years, from which we will bring only the best, the kindest, with hope for the future. After all, this is exactly what we need in the New Year. Happy holidays to all of you and an ending that didn't spoil them!
Of course, the expectations were greatly overestimated, I think, like everyone else, I was waiting for some kind of breakup, but here.. It's very easy. Almost half of the two hours were spent saying goodbye to the heroes, and everything was resolved very simply with Vecna and Mindflyer. No wow twist, no emotional breakdown, eh. Season 4 was much stronger
That is, it was quite possible to show this mess from her face, but they smoothed it out.
Will has grown up, from a downtrodden and broken boy, he has become a real man, and this is oh how difficult considering everything that has befallen him. And all this is thanks to the support that Henry didn't have. Who knows what would have happened to Henry if he hadn't been in the mine back then. Will, having told his most important secret, was psychologically freed from the Abyss and they quickly won thanks to the fact that brave little Holly, leading her friends away from danger, led Henry into his most terrible secret. That is, Henry became vulnerable at that moment, and this played into the hands of the heroes.
The unfinished story of Eleven is left for the viewer to think about. It seems to me that in her case, the story of "happily ever after" next to Mike and Hopper (and the others) was impossible, because the outcome of the eighth was quite likely - they would be killed, she would be sent to the laboratory. Whatever it was, such an end = freedom for all friends and a chance for a normal life.
In general, the ending is not bad for me. You won't please all the viewers, if they kill everyone, it's bad, if they kill a few, it's bad. And I like to think that somewhere out there, the guys are living their almost ordinary lives.
And of course, why did Will suffer before when this mind was burned, but now at least henna? Where is their connection?
The ending is a bit weak. The first hour was good, and the second was a dumb farewell to the characters.…
The actors have outgrown their roles, not by skill, but by age. With this very age, some have lost a lot in acting, including the eleventh.
As a result, the last two seasons don't have the charm of the first three, and the finale is the same, thanks for finishing this.
To begin with, comparing it to "It: Welcome to Derry" is too silly. Since we've only filmed season 1, we've already concluded that the series is much better than the OSD. The OSD is already completed and we can see the finale, but what about Derry? We don't know about Derry yet what kind of ending awaits there, but we are already comparing professionally, because the first seasons of OSD and Derry are good.
Why finish it so perfectly. Maybe someone likes a super happy ending, but guys, the main thing in previous seasons was to merge at least someone and even people important to them, but here something has not merged anyone.
But as for revealing the meaning of Vecna's actions, the battle with him and everything related to him, it is a complete failure. After a detailed introduction and justification for becoming a villain in season 4, it was extremely strange to see this hastily cobbled together it is unclear what in season 5.
How did the children help him in his plan, what is their strength, why are there 12 of them, what is the whole point of merging worlds, what did black smoke from Lost want to do in our world? Stupidly enslave everyone? For what?
Why was there this painful passage through the cave? So that what? Henry didn't get any angrier or stronger after that. We just found out that he was enslaved by venom from a meteorite as a child. It was already pretty clear and not very interesting.
The final fight with Odie was super primitive, they left each other with telekinesis, and then Vecna planted himself on the basilisk's fang. End.
Will was expected to contribute much more than just stopping Vecna's hand once. Especially after his power awakened in the middle of the season, when everyone's bones cracked.
In general, the entire 5th season looks like some kind of DIY after the most detailed and exciting 4th. There wasn't much substance in it, but there were a lot of unnecessary dialogues between minor characters that made you want to sleep. Honestly, I don't give a damn about Nancy and slow-witted Jonathan's relationship, while everyone has long forgotten how much Audie and Mike love each other.
In general, seasons 1-2 are a tower, season 3 is full of uninteresting self-replays, season 4 is a return to the roots, pumping the general plot and introducing the main villain, everything is very twisted and interesting, and in 5 I honestly already forgot what happened, except for the finale and Will's powerful becoming a wizard in the middle. Everything else is some kind of running back and forth across different worlds, where for some reason all the demogorgons died out (they never explained why), mixed with tedious analyses of the relationships of characters who were not at all interesting to watch.
I am generally silent about Kali and the military. Just to stretch the timekeeping. Well, Kali can still be justified by her move in terms of Odi's survival, with a stretch.
Thanks for the series, I really liked the vibe of this series, especially from seasons 1-4.
Season 5 ended generally fine, of course, there are a lot of questions and nuances, but despite the fact that I adore this series because of seasons 1-4, I will accept this season and thank the Duffers.
Hopper didn't seem to give a shit about her at all until Odie told him.
After reading the comments, a famous phrase comes to mind: “Not everyone is an artist. But everyone is a f*ing critic.”
I liked the ending as a whole. If more characters were killed (as many write, for realism), it would change the atmosphere of the series. I wouldn't want that. In addition, it is worth considering the specifics. It's a different genre. With its own nostalgic elements, rules and tricks, where good wins over evil. Albeit at the cost of some sacrifices.
To self-kill The self-sacrifice of 11 was logically summed up over the course of several episodes. So, the decision seemed logical, and not just a twist to surprise. Plus, at the end of the episode, HOPE remained the main focus. Not a direct proof that the heroine is alive, but a hint. Maybe all these assumptions are true. Or did Mike, as a storyteller, just create such a coping mechanism for himself? It's even more interesting this way. The ambivalence of interpretations with the death of 11 or its staging adds an element of provocation to the story. Personally, I don't see this as a complete “happy ending”, but as a variation of “bitter sweet ending”. Which is also quite good.
The drama is present. For example, at the moment with the illusion of the Moon, when the Hopper pierced the water tank with bullets (and not only him??? Oh, no, it's okay), the moment looked very tense. When you don't immediately understand where the truth is and where there is deliberate deception in order to set the characters back a couple of steps and slow down the battle.
And in general, if you look more broadly, it seems that in series that are created for such a massive target audience, it would be impossible to satisfy everyone. Everyone wants something different, promotes their own views on the completion of character lines, preferred emotions, the presence or absence of an epilogue, etc. Everyone has their own expectations and tastes. Moreover, there were some flaws in “Stranger Things" before. They were necessary in season 5, but this does not make the finale somehow “terrible”, “disgusting”, “causing indignation,” as the “fans” write here.
My top list:
The opening character is Derek.
The most memorable and sincere character is Dustin.
The ending is quite normal. The line with Henry's background (and matter) is interesting to observe. The idea that the Underside is a wormhole between worlds and the scientific explanations of the concept looked convincing. Also good.
It's also cool that the beginning of season 1 and the end of season 5 were visually looped using D&D in the basement. In screenwriting, this is one of the classic techniques when an action returns to the same moment, a repetition, with the help of a ring composition, but the viewer or reader observes how the characters have changed. And these four five friends have definitely become, at least, stronger and more mentally resilient after so many years of fighting monsters haha. A little later, they will kick back at the problems of adulthood even more easily than Demogorgons.
But people who revile the finale just because you didn't get the Backers - wtf? They came up with peyring themselves, they believed in it themselves, they were offended that the creators did not go along with your wishes. In all five seasons there has not been a SINGLE hint of this pair. Not a single hint of any feelings on Mike's part. You can wear pink glasses as much as you want and put an owl on a globe, looking for secret signs and evidence in the spirit of "Mike didn't look at anyone the way he looked at Will, Odie was his platonic love, and Will was his real one, Mike is just afraid to open up and admit his feelings! And anyway, when Mike fell in love with Odie, she had a haircut FOR A BOY, YOU KNOW, FOR a BOY!!11.
"Yes, Mike was willing to do a lot for Will. He loved Will because Will was his best friend. That's exactly how friendship works. I do not know, read not only slash fanfiction, but also other works to understand the concept of friendship. Go outside and touch the snow and grass. Shitting the authors for nothing is trash
In my opinion, Will got a happy ending even without Mike's reciprocation: he didn't have to hide, he was accepted and supported by his friends and family (don't forget that it was the 80s when the fireplace destroyed both friendships and families), he became self-confident. What am I complaining about here?
As far as I'm concerned, Mike and Al are the ones who haven't had a happy ending. Well, I don't believe that Jim was able to move on so easily after losing his second daughter. This kind of thing drives people nuts, but they told us that he had come to terms with everything and decided to move on.
And the rest really have a happy ending. Will has become stronger and more confident than ever.
More tears, again someone is always blaming himself, how he hesitated from this. My expectations probably remained expectations, apparently the authors just decided not to worry and turn the series into a typical happy ending. The audience ratings speak for themselves, 3.8 is a clear failure for a story that has ended and will never return.
It's better to review all 4 seasons anew and forget about this one forever.
but just in case, they left the opportunity to earn extra money in a couple of years, if there is demand.
In general, Netflix is not stupid and has left its doors open. Moreover, it is now very fashionable to return to the old shows after a few years.
It's very sad when your favorite stories end.
The battle with Vecna and spider turned out to be spectacular.
I am very glad that Steve is alive. And in general, only Kali died, who is not the main character at all. Odi... I will believe in Mike's theory that she ran away and lives her quiet life. Actually, I was waiting until the last moment for her to leave waffles for Hop somewhere...
P.S.
After all, the finale of episode 4 was the coolest moment of the season.
Apparently, the series should have been finished a season or two earlier.
I personally liked the final episode. But it was like I was waiting for more. It's like there was a wow effect in season 4, but it didn't happen at the end. Well, as it is! Definitely, there is something that is very hooked. For example, Henry's memory from the cave. There is something that is disappointing. But still, the series will be one of my favorites!
Among the advantages are music, Sadie Sink's beauty, despite the fact that outwardly, as for acting, I will follow her further, a little conversation of the "older generation" on the roof, drawings in the credits, a healthy Lumax relationship, hints at Mike-Stephen King (yes, I know when he started writing, but I I wanted to think like this).
But tell me, didn't you watch with bated breath as Steve plunged into the abyss? Didn't your heart fill with warmth during Dustin's speech? Didn't you laugh at Derek's catchphrases and feel touched that he became part of the team? Didn't you admire Nancy's fortitude, who agrees to be the bait without hesitation? Didn't you feel sad at the moment when the characters put their books on the shelf?
All this is the OSD. The story is about growing up, overcoming fears, being brave, trusting and respecting other people's choices. That music can save you, and also that true friends will never leave you.
We've been through so much over these 5 seasons, and these characters have become part of our story to some extent, thanks to the Duffer brothers.
PS It may be an unpopular opinion, but I don't really believe in the love of Audie and Mike. Most of this is due to the lack of chemistry in recent seasons and the fact that Mike has always been hanging out with guys, and Audie is the only girl with superpowers with whom he spent time (Max appeared later). This is such a childish rather invented love, which ended very organically.
Do I believe that Audie is alive? I don't know. On the one hand, Mike's theory is bursting at the seams, on the other, Eleven's miraculous disappearance from the car also looks so—so. But I guess I'll choose to believe anyway, just because I love happy endings.
Happy New Year to all! I hope an equally strong project will appear this year, and we will all meet in the comments)
2. What was Susie for? At least they mentioned her briefly, so that
3. I didn't understand the meaning of Kali's return at all - like her stupid drain, why and for what - it's not clear.
4. The theory about Odi is pretty crazy, considering Kali's injury and the amount of blood leaking out. You could have died there ten times already.
5. Vecna - you were such a wonderful villain, well, why were you tricked like a sucker?
In short, for such a powerful series, this is a very weak ending. Sorry.
The final confrontation and the moment in the canyon gorge look like a direct visual homage to Ripley's battle with the Queen in the Alien power loader.
I watched seasons 4 and 5 in one gulp and I really enjoyed it. Especially the way they explained the origin of the Underside, monsters and abilities in children, everything is quite logical and harmonious.
I'm glad that the story ends on season 5, it's great when the authors know how to stop in time and not stretch the plot "for the sake of another season."
And yes, I'm glad that the main characters are still alive. The ending with Eleven is ambiguous, but this "loophole" from Mike is like a balm to the soul. Her choice to stop the Order of the Black Hand, even at the cost of herself, was the right one.
The ending is quite happy and realistic enough.
There are no shocking deaths (imho, the beheading was delayed forever, it already looked comical), no closed finale (because you still want to earn money from sequels and sidequels), no lore and logic that would not be violated until the very end, no answers to all the questions.
And the last is the most important omission. If you have a wrong side=bridge, then why were Demops/Demogorgons in the USSR? El didn't create anything like that there.
Why did Mind Flayer turn out to be such a non-epic boss that can be overcome "by the power of friendship" and through pain Forever, but at the same time Will Will be fine?
Where did all the military go after the destruction of the Inside?
What happened to pregnant women? Wasn't their blood transfused inside out?
Why did El (and hypothetically Kali) still have powers after the destruction of Mind Flayer and Henry? It turns out that they were drawn from the planet itself?
Why did such a crowd have to go to the tower to fulfill the plan? Why not wait for Al to settle everything with Henry and then climb up?
How could Max graduate from high school if she was in a coma for two years out of the entire program?
Where's Dustin's girlfriend Suzy? Why is a classmate driving to him?
And there are a million more questions that would arise if you watched the series not online, but at one time. Anyway, thanks for finishing. It's a pity that it's so blurred.
The emotions are very twofold, of course..
It's sad and disappointing that there are so many plot holes left..
That's how they promoted this season, but in fact..
On the one hand, it's sad that such an interesting story has ended!
On the other hand, it's good that this story is over. And that doesn't pull it out of your finger!
I am very glad that many characters have had a good and happy ending.
Anyway, this story will always remain in my heart!)
@wsmiller26: Yes, about her. The false ending is that all the events of Volume 2/finale are visions that ** Mike (most likely), Will, or us ** are inspired by Vecna**.
I decided to delve into this, and here are the arguments that the audience adheres to: •
inconsistency in Will's speech. He said that he likes to buy milkshakes at Melvald's, but they haven't been sold there for decades, meaning they were sold in Henry's childhood. He said he likes to wander through the woods, but it's his most traumatic memory.
Graduation: The orange robe is not typical for their graduation year, but it is typical for prisoners. All graduates sit in poses similar to Henry's signature (hands in front of the lock). When Mike looks at the speakers, he realizes that something is wrong.
• The gray arrow on the switch that Robin was turning turned red.
• In the interview, Finn did not mention his character's favorite song, because it could be a spoiler. And what do we have? It wasn't revealed, but when the door closes, "Heroes" starts playing, which may be trying to help Mike, like Max's "Running Up That Hill" once did.
• The series ended with an open ending, although the Duffers said they would never do that.
• The radio was supposed to shut down after the final episode, but it's still on (although I don't think it is anymore).
specifically about the radio, I also think that this is a warm-up for the spin-off, although in my heart I hope for an additional one.a series. I don't think the Duffers are so brilliant that they could pull this off. although after reading everything I've attached, I inadvertently start to wonder... Joyce was considered crazy in the first season too ahahha. I hope I won't get caught, I just put everything in one pile and decided to share it.
I'm attaching a few more arguments in the collage.
To be honest, I feel very sorry for Henry Creel, i.e. the antagonist. I would like him to either really lose half of the cast, and there would be an epic and touching ending, or... so that Henry can be made good, and so that he can be cleansed of the evil that was once planted in him. After all, globally, he turned out to be only a puppet in the hands of a greater evil, which they did not even begin to reveal in any way. Henry Creel, I mean, Centuries, had a huge dance if he could only be revealed more correctly, but in the end it was agreed that he was happy to accept evil, because he was offended by the world - it turned out to be too mediocre.
We could also create some kind of inside-out replica of Billy Hargrove, who could chase after Max to make her escape a little more difficult.
Yes, a lot of things could have been thought up, but they made an ordinary, boring, civil happy ending...
It's a pity that the series did come to an end, I wanted to do something different, but everything ends sometime.
I will miss all the characters very much! I finished watching the episode with very moved feelings - and I didn't want to grumble about any plot holes anymore - I'm just glad that this story was with us and that such a wonderful ending was made for our characters.
Basically, the fact is that Vecna did not expect this sudden attack on his native territory. He couldn't even imagine. They're out there somewhere.
We discussed the possibility of fighting Demogorgons in addition to fighting the Mind Eater, but it seemed more logical to us why would he need Demogorgons if the Mind Eater is a giant creature capable of attacking them? He doesn't need his little army of ants to attack, he can handle it on his own. It's a giant, desolate planet... you see Henry wandering around the planet in season 4, and at one point in his journey he sees a Demogorgon in the distance, but they're not sitting in little huts. There is no giant Demogorgon civilization there.
Moments from previous seasons emotionally finished me off, some preparation for saying goodbye to the series.
The Duffers talked about an important loss, and in the end they didn't lie, it was the loss of the image of "childhood."
But that's it, it was a good story, and I miss it already. 😭
Such an "inconvenient" ending, but so logical in fact. Even though the final scene with El broke my heart, it was still a great season!
I think it's a great ending.
Max in this episode: she rolls herself in a chair (which requires remarkable arm strength)
I: chozafignaya...
Max: catches himself, looks at his hands in surprise, finds himself in a mental reality instead of the physical world
I: uh, thank you
One has only to remember the first season - there was something worthwhile in it. It was catchy.
And what about the fact? They give us a sugary ending, constantly warming us up with the fact that there will be plot twists from which you and I will be worried, to say the least. If the first part of the season was intense, then in the second part everything just merged slowly but surely.
The overblown dialogues are exhausting, and I don't even want to sympathize with the characters because it's all happened before....
Yes, there are a lot of questions, but the action is great, the emotions were given. I liked it, but it's a happy ending again.
It was cool. The series has left a big mark on pop culture. It was cool to be a part of him.
It is clear that they were VERY afraid to anger the fan base with the cruelty and death of their favorite characters and decided to save everyone.
But this is their main mistake, you can't leave everyone happy at once - in the end, the ending is really toothless and characterless, not a single real loss, everyone is happy and satisfied, we know that this is not about life, that it doesn't happen that way, and we wanted more.
On the other hand, we can see the outcome of the "non-standard" endings of long, big stories for a decade with emphasized drama and the deaths of Persians - KYAVM, IP.
Were the fans happy with them?) The glow of the farts lit up the horizon for another year after their finale. It is clear why the scriptwriters were afraid and wanted to please everyone.
It turned out to be far from the worst possible option, sugary, but more or less slender, without drama, with an emphasis on saying goodbye to your favorite characters, with an emphasis on their future and a happy life - at least somewhere we have to look at it))
The farewell turned out well, the culmination of the confrontation with the world's evil was not very good, but for me it was more important to make sure that their life and story as a whole did not end, even if we were parting with her, and this is much better than the drama, deaths and the triumph of a nightmare.
The ending was kind of weird, there were too many holes and illogical moments. The story armor is generally complete nonsense.
It was necessary to finish season 3 at best.
They also announced a spin-off, and they're starting to milk the franchise like walkers.
I liked the ending for Odi. It's different for every viewer- someone is firmly convinced that Odie has disappeared and disappeared with the Inside Out, and someone believes that Odie is alive and far, far beyond Hawkins. At first, I was sure that Odie was missing, but after Mike's words, I had hope that Odie was still alive.)
These two hours flew by very quickly, it was interesting, touching, generally a cool ending, I don't understand Haight) They perfectly completed the story of the kids from Hawkins, I will miss them and the residents of this strange town🥺
Guys, come on, camon. The series is about the warm lamp 80s, where good always defeated evil/government/army by the hands of children in films, being weaker, without trump cards and in a more losing situation. It's just based on motivation and the belief that we will succeed. It was even said here that "we have a plan of shit and sticks in which everything can go wrong".And yet it works. I even think that they deliberately didn't polish the script and the arcs of all the moments perfectly (although they could), because it's not the little things that matter to them, like where the military went and why Hopper is sheriff again, even though he filled dozens of fragments. What was important to them was the message of friendship and love, the general atmosphere of happy holidays and gratitude for the journey both to the characters and the audience.
I can no longer read the dreams of the audience that half of the children had to die, Their parents had to die, and there was little blood at all! Everyone has safely given up on the fact that this is a "fairy tale" where good conquers evil, it's about friendship and growing up. All of their Dungeon and Dragon campaigns ended well in the end, and the series is just the game. Sorry for the lack of commas, it's not very convenient to write here. In general, I'm amazed at people who ask a billion questions unrelated to the main plot line. I'm just really burning up with all these questions.… According to this logic, absolutely all TV series have huge plot holes. I think that such a large-scale advertising program has overestimated the expectations of people who started watching the series only recently, and here is the result. I think the Duffers were ready for this, because they definitely earned a lot, ahah.
The final for all finals. The sheer delight of watching
1. Argyle and Susan. Argyle is trying to break into Hawkins with his best friend. Killed by the military. It would explain where he'd gone and why Jonathan hadn't mentioned him. At the same time, it would emphasize what a dangerous job Murray was doing delivering grenades to the guys. Susan for about the same reasons. Is Dustin on edge, but not looking for support from his girlfriend?
2. The Sinclair parents and Max's mom – during the earthquake. Otherwise, how to explain that they don't care that their children disappear for several days somewhere.
3. Mrs. and Mr. Wheeler. Dad immediately, mom after the performance in the hospital, they say, strained, saved everyone and died from the strain.
4. Robin. When the demogorgans dragged the children away, she was seriously injured, somehow she made it to the hospital, said goodbye to Vicky and died. It would be a super drama. And then Vicki when trying to protect Max from the military. Wow, that's amazing!
6. Erica's teacher at the church. Erica told him, "What does it feel like to save the world? "He was like, 'Damn cool! "and the military is killing him. Just wow!
7. One of the children. Well, if you don't die, you'll hurt your head after such a trip. Like in "Guns," if you know what I mean. And then everything went too smoothly after all the mess at Hawkins, there were zero consequences.
8. Steve. No, he had to be saved. But against the background of many deaths, even such a banal rescue would have become a little more acutely perceived. This is an emotional swing, not a three-to-five children's carousel.
9. Eight. And so it is clear.
10. Nancy, during the battle with the big spider. That would be Super epic. She would have remained a "Special girl with great potential" forever
11. Eleven. Only for real. Well, do you seriously think that you can believe that you have reached from the laboratory to the exit from the inside? In the fifth episode, she couldn't do that. And even after the explosion that broke the bridge. Yeah, yeah.
12. Will. It's strange that he's connected to the torturer and the age, but not straight at all. They died, but he didn't.
And already at the end, in the epilogue, we should have seen Michael, who, extinguished by grief, writes his rainbow-vanilla ending. How everything could have been and how happy everyone could have been if it hadn't been for Vecna and his gang. Like in one of the Knightley movies, let's just say without spoilers. That would be the best thing.
It's a pity that out of fear of the anger of the fans, they made some kind of children's sugary fairy tale... I'm going to close my eyes and review the correct ending in my head...
In the end, it turned out that Mike just turned out to be a bad friend and boyfriend. And even when El was "dying," he didn't tell her I love you. I waited, I thought that all his actions would be justified, but no. thanks for the buzz. now many fans hate him. And what kind of scene was "friends? No. BEST friends." Will, my boy, I don't understand how you live with him.
Will also loved him for 10 years, and then he was like, its just a crush he's my Tammy. We abruptly forgot who Tammy or che was. since when is Tammy a 10-year-old crush, and not just a beautiful girl from the hallway of the school with whom you don't even communicate. I'm tired of the fact that the main line of a queer character is self-acceptance. It's cool, of course, but maybe that's enough already. Accepted himself? Cool go get your man you were yearning for forever.
And about the fact that the Duffers had to explain some scenes because no one understood what had happened? the so-called breakup of Nancy and Jonathan, which even the actors themselves did not realize was a breakup. And why couldn't we film Will's confession to Mike? Why should I find out from Twitter that Mike knows he's crushing Will?
The large number of characters was a bit annoying, too, but I'll forgive it. They also made fun of all the theories and explanations of the characters of "if my theory is correct" with random subjects.
in short, I was disappointed and I hope there will be some secret episode 9. because it was so interesting to think through the plot, there were (and still are) so many interesting theories, but no, it was necessary to end it so stupidly.
That's how it works in the real world - gays turn other people into gays with their cameos.
And someone is watching about who, whose crash has been there for 10 years (hello, they are children), how who breaks up,
etc. P.S. I'll tell you a little secret. The fact that Will turned out to be unusual is just a standard agenda that is crammed into absolutely every series. Every modern TV series has its own Will, its own Buttercup, its own Ciri, etc. Usually, the relationship of the "Wills" does not try to write out a scenario in a normal way. Here, Will is just a copy of Richie from cf ono. So why be surprised,
The overall rating of the series is, of course, 10 points.
The final episode score is 8 points.
Wil was made gay by Vecna, of course, because he himself is gay. I tried to make myself a vessel out of a sweet pie
Wait, though... Why does he need 12 baby vessels 😳
1. Hopper actually shot One in that tank. That would be a breakup of everything! And Vecna COULD have done it! Why did you blunt it?
2. Vecna won. The two worlds have joined. That would be really cool.
The series is very intense!
It's a great series!
Will has been so broken throughout history, I'm glad he's recovered and found his place, and being such a vulnerable boy, he went to New York alone and didn't get lost there.
Dustin and Steve have maintained a bond and friendship beyond just words.
It started out like Stephen King's books, but it ended up like a beautiful fairy tale by Madeleine L'engle, everyone returned home after terrible trials, and the "sorceresses" disappeared because they had no place in this world.
I liked it very much. I think the ending is great, and I'm grateful to the Duffers that it's exactly that: bittersweet, but with a pleasant aftertaste.
My wow moments of the last episode:
1. When Steve lost his temper, I screamed 😆
2. The moment when Vecna got into Hopper's head and he thought he'd shot 11, aaaaaaaaoaa!!!! It was tough!
3. When Henry was sneaking into the cave: wow, Jamie, wow!
4. Well, the ending. I like that we were given a long goodbye to the characters, but they showed us only one specific day and moment from later life, and did not tell us completely how and what happened to whom (this is why I do not like the finales of some other series). I like that the final of the Odi has remained open, and everyone can choose for themselves what to believe. Although I really feel sorry for Mike.
It seems to me that over the past decade we have become too accustomed to all kinds of tin, not only in TV series (thanks to Game of Thrones), but, alas, in life, too, so the simple ending "good defeated evil" seemed boring to many. But, really, we live in a textbook of history, twists and turns, losses, drama and horror are enough, so thanks to the Duffers for sparing their favorite characters and viewers. For those who didn't have enough "twists" and unexpected turns, guys, just read the news more often, leave at least a little goodness on the screen..
It was a great adventure. I was very happy to witness such a massive cultural phenomenon for the third time in my life (the first two were GP and IP), and how cool it was for the whole world to wait, watch and discuss. I'm already waiting for something new to appear that will captivate us all)
I envy those who are just starting to watch this series, I myself had a desire to review everything from the first season.
This is, of course, a complete game.
- The kryptonite of the Age, which was invented and hidden like a piano in the bushes, looks as ridiculous as possible. The scriptwriters didn't even bother and didn't connect it in any way. In the middle of the desert, suddenly, out of nowhere, a wounded scientist lies underground with a briefcase containing an infernal obelisk, and this scientist is found by some Boy scout child. What kind of nonsense, guys, how did you manage to utter such nonsense???
- What kind of sorry Malafia was flowing around inside out? Where from, what is it for?
- The line with Gayville is just blatantly stolen straight from It. They didn't even steam up. They just copied it 1 to 1. What an audacity. It would be funny if Mike were made gay, like he was gay in both it and osd. But he's already hung out with Audie, so Will got it.
- About the fact that the stupid military and Sarah Connor captured everyone in the end, and then abruptly released them and turned off all the fishing rods- how is that at all?
"Audie looks like an overly mature woman. I should have either removed all this nonsense earlier, or the contract forbade her to put fillers and eat sweets.
- There is a separate topic about the actions and logic of the characters. Nancy shoots at an unknown sphere. Max and Polly chat leisurely, and then slowly walk from Vecna's mind to their bodies..
- The story of the vessels reminds me of something, where the intestine was connected to the mouth... And the bodies were stored in cocoons, and the consciousness was uploaded... Into the matrix?)
- And with all this mess, with the collision of worlds, some kind of corridor, matrix, vessels, military... The final battle was... With a giant spider. Well okay. It's all about Korney Chukovsky. Suddenly, a small mosquito appeared out of nowhere. So here, they drew a huge spider from somewhere.
- A tutorial on how to figure everything out. The wrong side is needed. Dusty. An incomprehensible notebook, among thousands of notebooks. Dusty finds an obscure notebook, and everything becomes clear. The clash of worlds!
Honestly, to push for so long, to use such crazy inflated timekeeping for the sake of this?
How is it relevant now(((
but fuck, it all ended up with a fucking happy ending, EVERYONE's ALIVE, I was watching and wondering who was going to get killed, and then Odie sacrificed herself, and you're like, okay, but FUCK it..
and in general, there hasn't been a single death this season that has any kind of emotionally divisive background, so that the whole fandom screams "NOOOO, NOT HIM/HER"
Although I still feel sorry for Mike..It's like he's a little more unhappy of all of them, of course he built this theory and it obviously calmed him down, but damn..He makes me very sad...
I liked how much time they devoted to showing exactly this interval after the final battle, there is almost no such thing in any series, and here they didn't show you in a hurry, but everything was measured, just a special thank you to the creators♥
And Dustin? Well, what a tough guy, his speech is like fire🔥🔥
It's lovely that they started and ended the series in the same room and handed over the reins to the "new" generation...
That's the end of this wonderful 10-year campaign on "Very Strange Cases"...
you can review it in a couple of years.
I realized while writing my comment that there were no such deaths, and it's very strange, there were so many options...but in the end, as if for the sake of the fandom, everyone was allowed to survive.
It was the best show ever.
We'll put it on the shelf to wait for revision.
💔💔💔💔💔💔💔
I watched it and thank God!
So much forbidden love, I kind of don't care about their existence, but why put it in the top series all the time, huh???
And plastic Odi is also fu. His mouth barely moves. He can't express emotions at all with such monsters. It is necessary to ban actors from having plastic surgery. When he finishes the project, he can do whatever he wants with himself.
The first is those who can understand metaphors and understand what the author wanted to say, why the curtains were blue. And those who have heard about the suspension of disbelief.
The second are crazy fans of fanfiction and formalists who definitely had to show and tell everything in the smallest detail, and God forbid if the authors did not meet their expectations or leave any questions.
For some questions, by the way, how did it happen that they didn't think through the moment that they would get out of the portal and the military would be waiting for them there? Why was only one squad sent after them, if they were so important?
It's not that it's important, it's just strange assumptions.
All in all, it's a decent ending and a well-run story, albeit not without its flaws.
One camp justifies the blatant hack work of the screenwriters and the studio as a whole, who are actually just milking the franchise. But these are your favorite characters, these are just assumptions, you have high expectations.
2 camp of people who think and those who see that there is a huge difference between the first season and this leaky finale, which was so much hyped, which just has crazy timing. They just wrapped the feces in a candy wrapper and slipped it to people. But with a Happy ending.
Better look at the darkness or devs. There are no 2 camps, no one shares, because the scenarios are excellent and not sucked out of the finger.
And then there was such a cheerful beginning and such a shameful popcorn ending.
In my opinion: the shell was originally a vhs atmosphere, which was a collection of pleasant references to the aesthetics of that era.
The core is the plot. Adventure fiction with horror elements.
Characters: teenage children and adults. Teenagers go through the stage of self-identification, under the influence of the oppressive atmosphere of their closed town. And so on.
I'm just sincerely trying to understand what meaning the authors might have put between the lines, but unfortunately nothing but the banal comes to mind if judged from this point of view (
Well, like, yes, in the initial seasons there was more groundwork for near-mysticism and constant references to the 80s and the aesthetics of that time, but over time the series acquired self-importance and told a normal story of children who became adults. In terms of this, it doesn't seem to matter so much what kind of space spider it is, where it came from, and what its capabilities are - it's just the engine of the plot and in its place could be more or less anything.
I'm not saying that the series is a ksta masterpiece, it's just normal, above average, no more; and there's a lot to dig into, it's just that in my opinion, people are digging into the wrong place (like the same person with exotic matter)
Thanks to the creators of the series for their creation. I've reviewed it a bunch of times and I'll do it again.
To enter Vekna's mind - yes, to break bones with the power of thought - yes, to die with the torturer - no, what are you saying, he just woke up yesterday, he still has to live and live 🙈
I do not support this whole movement and rather have a negative attitude towards it because of the excessive pressure of propaganda. But the fact is the fact.
"The Duffer brothers have announced that the fifth season of Stranger Things will feature one of the most violent deaths in the show's history." Where is it? Who is this about anyway? 8 was an ordinary bullet, 11 was vaporized in the rubble, she wasn't even blown away by them. Or is it about random warriors or about Vecna himself? It's as if the authors were just afraid to kill one of the favorites of the fandom, although they themselves are very bold and bring it up in the scenes of Dustin and Steve, for example. But as we can see, there simply weren't enough eggs, they tried to sit on all the chairs at the same time, and even came up with an open alternative ending for 11.
I was pleased with Will's development as a character - his transformation into a super-gay man was very epic. He was finally able to unleash his potential and let his Eyelids sink in. Noah Schnapp showed a good and dramatic acting performance. Although his coming-out monologue seemed very personal to me for an actor, it was nevertheless very protracted. This is true in general for many dialogues in the season, as if artificially prolonged, such as Max and Holly hanging out 5 meters from the exit when they need to run as fast as they can to it.
Millie Bobby Brown, on the other hand, seemed too lazy to act out something and show at least some emotions on her face. I won't get too carried away about fillers or botex in the second half of the season (it's like they didn't exist in the first half yet), but they just seem to get in her way. The chemistry between Odie and Mike was so lacking that I was seriously starting to think Will would just take him away.
Derek is the highlight of the season. He's a very cool, nasty guy. At first, it doesn't make a particularly pleasant impression, but then it slowly changes for the better. I was pleased that Dustin finished his performance on stage exactly as Eddie wanted to do before.
In general, the ending turned out to be just normal, but somehow toothless and causing a lot of questions. They were driving up the pathos, but at the same time, Vecna and the Torturer were defeated too easily. Before that, we were shown that Vecna tanks all military shots, the military cannot kill more than one Demogorgon throughout all seasons, which even holed and set on fire still survives and runs away, but at the same time the huge Torturer simply dies from several Molotov cocktails and a shotgun? How did Will feel when Joyce chopped off Vecna's head? How did Hopper avoid any consequences at all, despite the fact that he mowed down a lot of military? Why didn't the Mind Torturer use it even once during the final battle?. You know.. torture of the mind? Why didn't Vecna use it again after the phrase "you're going to spy on me, Will"? Why did Max start seeing again when she went blind in season 4? Etc.
Thanks for the pleasant farewell to the characters in the epilogue, but still something is missing. Some kind of bewilderment or something. The 10-year era is gone.
Why did the military take blood from 8 and pump it to pregnant women? What kind of game are they really that dumb? If they wanted to transfer the abilities of 8, then at least they had to study the brain first.
If they wanted to replicate her and create an army of superdets, well, they should have used IVF technology, stimulated her eggs, collected them, fertilized them with Pavel Durov's sperm and planted them on women, maybe even secretly, maybe even at Hawkins. And they would have received their own army.
Otherwise, they took blood and injected it into pregnant women... And they couldn't do anything. Oh, those stupid soldiers.
It's also funny that their beachhead is just a sheet of metal on bare ground. No asphalt, no concrete base, no rubble. And so it is normal. But if there was rubble, while the demogorgons were climbing through it, they might get hurt. Or choke)
And this is the deprivation chamber that Hopper shot through. Was it made in China? Why did he use a revolver to punch through a plate, a metal lid, and also glass, which, in theory, would be good to make shockproof?
Now I've seen the shorts about Vecna's gait) no wonder he lost))
Hey guys, it wasn't supposed to be like this, hold my beer.
11 opens the door, and there's an operating room and there's an 8 on the table. She doesn't have a haircut for 0. Her skull is shaved smoothly and has scars from trepanations and craniotomies, as the military studied her brain and abilities. She has bruises under her eyes, her lips barely move, dystrophy and dehydration, she is partially paralyzed. She is connected to ivs with sedatives and psychostimulants. There are caesarean marks on her stomach. She doesn't even need to be tied up, she's almost a vegetable.
Odie comes up to her in horror: s... S-sister... What have they done to you? 8 looks at her, but cannot speak, and somehow grabs her hand and telepathically transmits memories of how she was caught, tortured, and all the terrible experiments. When the military realized that it was already running out, the experiments went beyond the edge. They are trying to cross-breed dna 8 with demogorgon dna or with a vine. And implant it in her. At first she has epileptic seizures, and she screams get it out of me, but then she passes out. It is not known how the experiment ended.
Terrified, Odie falls into berserker mode and begins to destroy everything in his path with ultra-violence, like Alessa from CX.
Then there is a twist. It turns out that Vecna Henry knew about everything. And he tried to destroy the military and at the same time, of course, all the people for such cruelty.
Odie finds out at the very end, before defeating him. But Vecna hedged his bets. By killing him, the children connected to his life support system will also die. Or they will become vegetables.
Meanwhile, Will makes a cumingout. Everyone is sitting in shock and Dusty is like, fuck man, do you seriously think now is the best time to talk about your sexual preferences?! You horny sick bastard, there are children trapped by Vecna! Mike is like, I thought we were just friends.
Will joins Vecna's army.
But the experiment on crossing dna 8 and demogorgons is even more dangerous. The creation that scientists have received.
Then there is a twist. It turns out that Vecna Henry knew about everything. And he tried to destroy the military and at the same time, of course, all the people for such cruelty.
Odie finds out at the very end, before defeating him. But Vecna hedged his bets. By killing him, the children connected to his life support system will also die. Or they will become vegetables.
Meanwhile, Will makes a camingout. Everyone is sitting in shock and Dusty is like, fuck man, do you seriously think now is the best time to talk about your sexual preferences?! You horny sick bastard, there are children trapped by Vecna! Mike is like, I thought we were just friends.
Will joins Vecna's army.
The team of heroes is taking risks, but the physical shell doesn't mean anything to Henry anymore. After all, with the help of his network, he infected each of the children with a piece of his mind.
But the experiment on crossing dna 8 and demogorgons is even more dangerous. The creation that scientists have received.
I want to believe in hell, because you Duffer brothers will burn there forever.
And I'm too lazy to even comment on what this feces flowed into after the fourth one. In short, we got another victim of scriptwriters and showrunners recruited according to quotas and acting in accordance with the personal wishes of hedge fund managers, which are directly opposite to creating a high-quality product. It is striking that for this stool, which has already been paid for by interested parties, it is also proposed to pay.
I've seen reviews that someone doesn't like that Vecna was defeated so easily. And initially they made him a villain that no one can ever defeat.
Well, I'm inclined to believe that they've all been waiting for this for a long time, they've been training. And on top of that, Wil's powers, which became decisive in the fight against them.
Questions for Nancy, who is like a Terminator as usual😂
I don't like open endings, like, well, think for yourself, Odie died or, as Mike thinks, she's alive. I was waiting until the last moment for some piece with a hint that she was alive. And yet, on the side of her being alive, according to Mike's theory👌
We were led to Odie's death by her speeches. That's why I'm glad that everyone is alive!
Especially Steve! Who became a teacher and now has even more children under his wing😂
This comment is my graveyard of unfulfilled hopes and mourning the victory of conformity.
It may seem to some that I'm being dramatic, so be it.
Perhaps this someone had the happiness of never being or feeling like an outcast.
#Steve!
I don't need it, there's enough shit in my life, and I like to imagine that everyone has found what they need, not forgetting how close they are now.
Noah Schnapp once again gave off some kind of splendor in his scene with Henry.
And I really liked Finn in this episode. He played it off, the scenes were good, and he looked prettier, like a kid.
I am very glad that many characters have found themselves, their own way, and are moving forward after their ordeal. Lumax and Joyshopper are cute.
Of course, it's a shame for Odie, she was born with a weapon and died with a weapon, the world was unfair to her...
In the last minutes of the finale, I was moved because I was too attached to the characters and the atmosphere. Probably, no TV series can compare with OSD, he was the only one.
Well, Winona Ryder and Sadie Sink's new crush deserve a special like. As many reels as you can with her, please cram them into my recommendations.
Perfect characters, perfect soundtrack, perfect cinematography, perfect ending.
I will miss you very much. I will definitely review it after some time.
"Leaving Hawkins Come Again Soon"
I absolutely do not want to get to the bottom of any CONVENIENT coincidences, movements, etc. emae, here is Dimension X, the inside out, the real world, the illusory world, it all works, logically explained, even SHOWN (damn it, this hole with a flying car into the void, I had a wild horror). And everything is done with just flowing style and beauty (and the rare irregularities of the graphics - soooo don't give a fuck at all). And finally, he sat with wet eyes for all the final scenes.
We'll miss you.
For some reason, the Duffers also comment and answer questions from fans, managing to make things worse.
The only thing that pleases is the fans with their undying faith in the scriptwriters and their theories about a false ending.
Thanks a lot to the brothers over the years and for this masterpiece.
There are holes, there are questions. Yes, of course, it was possible to add more action, kill a couple of people for fun, make a completely dark ending.
But why ?
Obviously, many people, including me, fell in love with this universe not so much for the plot, but for so many colorful characters, for their problems, for their development, for their growing up in the end. The moments when they show their childhood flashbacks, where they are just babies, and a second later I see adult aunts and uncles - they personally creep into my soul. It's the whole universe. A separate universe where I fell in love with everyone. Thanks to osd for discovering cool actors, the inside world, and just that I really enjoyed watching every episode, I don't think it's the last time.
There is no opening of the inside, where does the man with the suitcase come from, what kind of material is in it? Guess for yourself
Duffers: The final will not be open!
What's the outcome? Think for yourself, did Odie's death really happen or not👍🏻
Why is the wrong side stuck in time, but shish knows it
"There will be violent deaths in the series," are you talking about Audie's death, which eventually remained open? Or are you talking about the death of Kali, who appeared at all after 3 seasons, that's cruel, you duffers are straight villains!
Honestly, it would have been much better if the Duffers had killed Jancy, because the scene with their breakup turned out to be so crazy that the Duffers had to explain that it was a breakup scene in the classroom.
Love lines are just a playful conversation. Where's Susie? But she's not. Do you want a Bailer/Mileven? And get the fuck out, Will's love interest was bent so that after everything that happened, he took and forgot Mike as if it were very easy. That's right, Mike is Tammy Thompson, well, yes, a good cuming out, only no one understood about Tammy from their team except Robin, and God forbid Steve, if he hasn't forgotten who it is in 2 years.
The cuming out scene is so cliched, Noah's acting took it out, but I still didn't understand why the fuck he gathered half the city, including the teacher, Vicky, Erica, as if they didn't give a fuck at all
Mileven is also super, there's nothing but a kiss before he dies, Mike can't even say he loves his girlfriend, that's a tragic scene, I'm betting 100/10 just.
Instead of shooting 2 hours per scene with Max and Holly, it would be better to reveal the plot holes, there were even more questions. New characters have been added, while the old ones do not have proper disclosure.(Not related to Derek, he's a fucker)
They searched for 5 seasons for a century, and in the end they killed him in 15 minutes, this is a super scene, very realistic. Bullets and shotguns don't take him here, but now it's different, they put him on a stake, well, that changes everything, he'll immediately throw off his skates, if not from pain, then from humiliation.
There are no demogorgons, but the answer of the duffers is "no, well, they are there somewhere," but it's immediately clear
You can find a retelling of it on the Internet, but it's still so stupid...
In general, the ending is normal, but there are many unresolved issues.
I can only assume that they wanted to reveal Henry's story better, but then they decided to make a play, and thus they overwhelmed the audience to it (if you want answers, go and see)
When I found out that there would be another series related to the OSD, I thought that some questions remained open to reveal them there, but then they said that they would not be particularly related.
Now I'm sitting here wondering what's going on 🫤
It seems to me that the authors chose the course primarily for those who just love the characters. Monsters are more like a background here, it's important who supported whom and who felt what. It's cute in places, but many of the conversations, characters, and scenes look poorly written.
For those who were waiting for logic and a strong season finale (dramatically), this was not enough. There is almost no threat, there are too many coincidences, the characters are protected by the script, and Vecna has suddenly become toothless. As a result, the tension after the fourth season was not lived, but simply removed. Growing up turned out as if in words, and not through passing the final test.
I'm more of those who wanted both emotions and a fair fight. The nostalgia was pleasant, but I didn't get any catharsis. For me, it's not about deaths, but about overcoming obstacles with consequences.
If Vecna had put more pressure on the characters' weaknesses, as in the scene with Hopper and the water tank, and they had gone through it and grown up, everything would have felt different.
For example: Vecna scares Nancy, she freezes, loses time, the plan breaks down. The second time, she goes ahead anyway - and this is no longer a "rambo", but a person who overcomes fear.
Let's have two attempts at battle: in the first one, someone buckled under pressure, it didn't work out.. someone was hurt (not much, but mentally or physically eliminated).. In the second attempt, everyone gathered again, and those who were broken were able to overcome their problems or helped others by watching from the sidelines.
But the second half of the final as a whole left a very pleasant feeling. It's always interesting where and how your favorite characters went next.
Those who talk about the merged ending should watch the Sopranos Clan, and sit for 15 minutes thinking "what the fuck was that?"
Everything is logical here, everyone was saved, they threw in a light cliffhanger for a possible sequel years later, and said goodbye to all the characters as sincerely and amiably as possible)
It's not bad here either, just a little childish ... a dozen children can't take down a monster from a skyscraper, a maniac running demogorgans and deceive the deep government without incurring losses))))
In general, I would have died in their place in the first season)
Yes, I've been expecting some kind of super-duper unexpected death for the last series, and some characters have been led to it. And Will was not enough in the role of a magician! I would like more. But alas and ah!
Still, a good ending for the characters, even if slightly overdone, is the right thing to do. With all my love for glass, in real life we would not want worlds to collapse and demagorgs running through the streets))
Thanks to the Duffer brothers for these 10 years.
P.S. The first season will always remain in my heart for its gloom and horror. P.S. Oh
yes! Steve as the coach of the children's team is perfect 💯
It's a pity we've got so many subpoenas in the last season. In general, it turned out not bad, if you look through your fingers at almost everything.
Well, to be honest, it was such a disgrace in some places. Especially the Rimbaud woman!It's just no comment.
Goodbye, legend.
Naive and even fabulous, perhaps, but today it is so necessary.
Yes, there is a lot of talk, cliches and questions, but still tears come at the end of the episode.
It's hard to break up, but I'll definitely come back to Hawkins in a few years to relive it.
@LottiePie: I left a comment thread with this theory somewhere here. Of course, I want to believe, but every day there are more and more doubts. I don't know if the Duffers can make such a brilliant move. Maybe they're just playing with us, and it's all a byte to draw attention to the spin-off and the movie about the movie, which will be released on January 12th. but the hints point to the 7th (or 11th) number!!! We can only wait
We will, if the series actually comes out:
He laughed with the phrase "let's split up."
So many years of theories, but in the end they were wasted, they screwed themselves up)
I can't believe this is the last season!
16-26💔 So many years, so many seasons😭
I can't say that I enjoyed the season. In my opinion, it came out very chaotic, well-groomed, the magic of the inside, the smoothness and fear of that world were lost. There are a lot of graphics that were used better and more thoughtfully in previous seasons. Especially in the last season, which still thrills with both the plot and the picture.
But saying goodbye to the heroes was wonderful. This is exactly what you expect after such a long journey. Soft smiles, warm hugs and the right words that find peace in the heart. I believe.
And I believe in three waterfalls. And a new life for the wonder girl who has always been a hero.
See you later, Hawkins. I'll definitely come back!
Light sadness, cool story, cool universe!
but the fact is that the stakes were rising with each season, the creators couldn't make the finale anything but epic! otherwise it would be a step back, it's stupid.
I'm sure the fans would have been even angrier if the finale had been as mundane and mundane as it was back then.
I liked that in season 5 each character was allowed to prove himself, and also that we got a happy ending)
I will review my favorite comfort series 🧙
p.s.: it seems to me that the spin-off about the new kids will be cool
The last episode had it all. And an epic battle with a giant spider and a battle of telekinesis. I definitely include Very Strange Cases in some of my most favorite TV shows along with The Clinic, Ted Lasso and Smallville. It's a pity to say goodbye, but the heroes give excellent advice. Let's just move forward to new achievements and not lose our loyal friends along the way.
I will definitely watch this series over and over again, all the characters are just amazing, the story is amazing, the ending is open with electronic notes. Guys deserve only such a happy ending.
I don't believe in relationships between characters, they don't evoke any feelings. Will survived from the inside out and became an outcast, his friends shied away, and instead of preaching to all his supposedly grown-up friends about survival and fighting the horrors of the inside out, he confesses to being gay. Stupid adults, overgrown actors, screenwriters' strike, Vecna, Vecna, Vecna, Vecna again. For two seasons, exploiting him as an antagonist, opening the curtain a little over his transformation into a monster, and again not explaining anything, is self-repetition in itself. It's godlessly infuriating that the entire lake gang skipped five seasons in a scripted bulletproof vest, with not a single victim, except perhaps a couple of emotional and real characters like Billy and Eddie. How unpleasant that the most vivid and principled images died in this series, while the "raid" of small shit-eaters half-jokingly defeated their own invented (note: children invented monsters in DnD, and then they miraculously attacked them in the same way in the story) evil and the boss, who in turn said, that he chose an alliance with someone/something that is clearly not inferior to him in strength. Let's forget about it, the contract for the series is closed. Scratch your head. Oh, a new intelligent character has been introduced, and even with the name of the Hindu goddess of death. Drain it.
The series was overexposed in real time. Five seasons of something worthwhile since 2016.
P.S. Everything feels like some kind of banter and fake, because I felt with my back that this was another divorce from Vekna or whoever was behind it. There is really no happy ending and everything is under control. Everyone has chosen their own "matrix" and is happy in it. After experiencing horrors of this caliber, the only way out is a hospital, alcoholism, psychotherapy, it's not for me to choose a shorter one.
But why, why does the final battle look like some kind of circus, a lot of talking, drama, walking, in order to eventually cut down the groaning Vekna with an axe? I expected something more from such a cool villain, the confrontation with him in season 4 seems much more dangerous, serious, frightening ...
The epilogue is generally very pleasant and good, but there is a strong feeling that the very final battle with evil did not happen. The finale of episode 4 looked even more epic 🥲
The epicness was not promised, the battle with the antagonists was a laugh, even the battle in the shopping center with similar spidery stuff in season 3 was more impressive. In general, when I saw at the beginning of the season what Henry had been turned into, it became clear. From a huge, creepy, "meat" monster, we got a skinny and skinny likeness of Groot, which causes nothing but a grin.
About closing arches and questions - now everyone does this and not only in TV series, people are too lazy to think up stories, let the viewer do it for them, the scriptwriters / directors are lazy.
The death of the eighth was obvious from the moment of its appearance, in fact, there is zero sense from it this season. The "death" of the eleventh is an expected move, it does not cause emotions, as does Millie's game this season.
There's nothing to say about the characters either, as someone wrote above - they came to earn the fee. Everyone is kind of emotionless, insipid, as if they themselves are tired of this story. The only really cool person left for me is Lucas, a real man, there are no questions for him. I didn't understand the chips with Will, finish both parts of the season with an emphasis on him, but completely put him on the back burner in the finale - why and for what?
This season, everything that was built in previous seasons has been turned into some kind of routine, the inside is a courtyard (the military even dragged helicopters there, lol), Vecna is a weakling, like a torturer who dies from a homemade spear, over.The characters' abilities are useless, even Hawkins, who has always been one of the characters in the series and gave his vibe and charm to the American countryside, looked like a real city after the tragedy at the end of the fourth season, this season he looked like a dummy and a decoration.
In the end, the series is legendary and the rotten finale does not overshadow all its former achievements, but the aftertaste remains, it's a pity that it is unpleasant)
We chatted a lot and sorted things out.
I thought everything would be resolved at the beginning of the season, but no, many conversations can either be cut or shortened.
Kali was stupidly merged
It's funny how the situation with the characters and the military was "resolved" after a while)))) at least the interrogations would show that they cut deals without words
Hoppers should be on the ground at all, considering how many soldiers he put in
In general, the farewell on the roof and the finale, where the little ones sit in the seats of the elders, is pleasant, about the hint of Odi - it seemed superfluous to me (they probably did it so that the fans of the character would not burn)
Merry Christmas, who is celebrating!
The finale is flawed, of course, but there is still something to remember for these 5 seasons...
The playlist has clearly expanded over these seasons, there is a clear vibe in the tracks, in the atmosphere of the series itself
The Duffers let us down, but there's nothing we can do about it.
Goodbye, OSD 🍷👋🥹
"Stranger Things: Tales From '85" is an animated spin—off of the series "Stranger Things."
It will tell about the events between the second and third seasons of the main series.
Season 1 - 5
Season 2 - 5
Season 3 -
4 Season 4 -3
Season 5- 2
The overall rating of the series is 4
I was so excited about the first seasons, I've watched them several times. But the further you go, the more boring, dumber, teenage, and snotty you get. The last season is almost completely rewound. All the characters have story armor as thick as a tank, and the creators simply can't kill anyone. The snot in season 5 is just unbearable, it's good that it's over.
I'm really sorry that we didn't remember Dustin and Billy's girlfriend. The rest of the arches are closed, although I would like to see Eleven left alive for sure.
The military, of course, also naively left everyone involved alone and disappeared from sight. Well, like demogorgons and demops ....
The coolest is Hopper, I'm thrilled with this actor, while the holidays are over, watch another Cruel night with him)
And so, thanks for all these years, worries. The series has really become a cult, even with all its flaws. I will definitely review it again.
More than 9 years have passed, I can't even believe it, I feel like I watched the first episode in a previous life, when I was 25, and there is no covid or war, and everything is good and carefree like the guys at the very beginning.
To be honest, season 5 was very frustrating for me, but the ending was quite satisfying. I'm even glad that I didn't get to watch a movie, it was too unbearably sad to watch the last few minutes, as if you were sending your children into the big world, even though I don't have them and I don't like them at all. 😅
They promised some kind of terrible death in the end, but the most terrible and sad thing for me is not the death of eleven, but the death of childhood.
I'll review the last episode a little later, alone, so that I can cry enough, because 2 hours after watching it, there's still a lump in my throat, but my family won't understand)
As much as I love Western cinema, sometimes there are so many questions on the agenda.…
- Including our powerful relatives.
- Study.
- Mortgage.
- Children.
- For us.
It was a good campaign, lasting almost 10 years.
P.S. You're leaving Hawkins
Come back soon.
But there are a lot of rave reviews from queers and the like, which is sad.
and this is despite the fact that in the Soviet zone, prisoners were given axes and swords, but they couldn't do anything, they were probably weaklings, and for some reason they didn't take bullets from these dogs, only a rose in a woman's palm, and a sword in the sheriff
's hand, but Karen's second attempt with a washing machine is The most gorgeous piano in the bushes
Fi...
As for me, the ending was not leaked, kind, sweet and a little sad. Definitely 5/5
But the finale, as for me, was not reached, as if they no longer had enough strength. Put the squeeze on it. No, as for the drama, everything is fine here, some moments were really glassy.
I didn't like the action. One minute they can't take down a fucking demogorgon, and they shoot at him, and they wrap barbed wire around him, and they set him on fire, but he still won't die, then they just threw a cradle to the main spider-like villain in a couple of minutes. One day they fought so hard against Vecna in season 4, then Odi defeated him in a couple of minutes.
Where were the demodog dogs at the final battle anyway, where are the demogorgs? Where are the hordes of winged creatures? There are only two final bosses, and if you kill one, the other will die. Of course, you can't mince it, but I think the ending in terms of the battle is just merged. At the same time, the series itself raised the bar and gave out such a thing in the endgame, well, it was a hack.
I still consider it a worthy end to a series that has been pleasing for 10 years. Maybe in the future we'll see a spin-off of where the shard with the mind flayer came from, or the stories of other numbers (3,4,5, etc.)
PS. And it wouldn't have been a bad crossover if they hadn't killed this spider to the end, and it would have entered our world in the town of Derry, where it would have healed its wounds, taken on the cheerful image of Pennywise the clown and continued to devour children)
The main characters discuss a plan of attack: If we had a helicopter, we would fly straight through the funnel to the world where the main villain is sitting, but, alas, we will not be able to drag the helicopter through the portal Inside Out"
Military: In half an hour, the Eleventh and Eighth are silenced by helicopter \_(ツ)_/
It is very sad to say goodbye to this story, to the characters who have grown up before my eyes.
Of course, the latest episodes and plot twists can't be called a masterpiece, but it turned out how it turned out.
The episode itself turned out to be quite good. Nancy did well, she shot back for everyone.
Well, I'll also believe that 11 survived. 🙌🏻
In fact, with regard to the 11th, this is a pure speculative open final, where everyone is free to choose what they like.
I am glad that the project has come to an end.
They also made a barbecue out of pine, put it on a skewer, and Joyce's mom cut off the first piece for herself.😆
But it's still a pity, Kanesh, that the story is over🥲 We'll miss you🖤
The actors did well, they grew up before our eyes (not just children) and everyone revealed their character 100%. I don't even want to single out anyone, because every character was interesting.
Yes, some episodes didn't pull 5 stars, but most, in my opinion, personally deserved the highest score, and the series itself goes to the "favorites" shelf and there is a high probability that I will review it because there is something to see. Plot, actors, visual effects and music.
All the characters in Very strange cases deserved to be happy and I'm glad that everything ended up being quite vanilla, there's plenty of drama being filmed anyway.
And what a good girl Kali is, sacrificing herself for Audie! She understood everything better than anyone, and she was right from the very beginning. Hopper can't see past his own nose. If they had listened to him, then Odie would definitely have had his blood drained by now. He and everyone else just moved back into the ordinary world, knowing that the military would surely be waiting. Is this his great "protection"? I think Kali, even if Odie had abandoned her plan, would still have sacrificed herself for the sake of the team and for the sake of other possible test subjects. The best character, but she deserved a bigger role in the finale of course.
But in general, if someone expected that everything would be tough, then in vain, Very strange things is a fabulous series where everyone survives, and children defeat evil. It always looked organic here. On the contrary, they made the ending of season 4 too sad for some reason, they moved away from the canon. And in the final, everything was already classic.
And I really liked that we spent a lot of time, 40 minutes somewhere, on scenes after the battle, where the storylines simply end and the characters live peacefully. It was great.
all the stories about the Duffers knowing how they would end the series initially are very good to believe. however, it's obvious that they planned to do this back in the first season (which would be ideal). since the finale of the 5th season is an exact copy of the finale of the first. El understands who she is and what she is, sacrifices herself, the guys are sad, life goes on. at the same time, at the end, there is a fat hope that Hopper is carrying waffles into the forest for a reason, but for El. how is this different from the finale of season 5? That's right, nothing. Everyone is sad and happy and moving on, and the audience and Netflix have been left with the same hope that maybe Al is alive to get her back in 10 years and make money.
therefore, alas, there were good episodes in the second and fourth seasons, in particular due to nostalgia for the 80s and 90s, and a good playlist. and the duo Steve + Dusty. but the idea itself was stuck in place for the entire series and was not originally intended for a franchise. and it would have been better if that had happened.
Vecna's motivation is not clear. Why would he connect the worlds? He would have been destroyed right away, because he is not even able to defeat ten-year-old children.
How can a Hindu woman be sure that the military does not have blood samples in our world?
Why didn't the heroes end up in prison? After all, they attacked a military base, killed soldiers, and destroyed an expensive project. Did Sarah Connor just give up on it?
Why did they even mess up this topic with a wormhole and another world? It would be possible to beat everything with the same backside.
In general, the script has slipped below the baseboard, plus gay confessions in a children's film. It was necessary to finish the series on the second season.
Although this series is not about blood, meat, guts, but I didn't have enough tin. Because the previous season led to this. Here, as in many other projects with children, events become scarier and more serious as the characters grow up (yes, take the same Harry Potter). This is, in fact, a war - a battle for peace, for the planet, and they don't have a single victim (not counting 8, of course, but I'm talking about the main caste). So, besides the Defense, they also seem to be opposing the military. Strange, of course.
I don't know what was in the production, and I don't really want to watch it. Just why couldn't Henry have been revealed in the series instead of such a blurry, sugary epilogue? At least with hints and flashbacks. I still didn't understand where that guy got the stone with the Torturer's particles, why he was afraid of Henry (well, I already vaguely guessed from the comments here), but nevertheless. It would have taken maybe two minutes, according to the timing.
I really liked the demogorgons this season, they were really cool, and the first-person view when Will got into consciousness was awesome. Dustin's grief and rebellion were great, I love their friendship with Steve separately, and it's cool that they stayed with each other.
But still, I really didn't have enough. I was so excited about the fourth season: the characters, the unfolding mysteries and cool characters, and how bland the ending was.
I've watched it since the first season, the first two were somehow more atmospheric, but the subsequent ones are not bad either, they gave us cool characters.
Yes, probably, the death of someone from the gg was not enough for the epic finale, even Audie seems to be alive.
Nancy, it's over, Rambo. And how such a fragile girl became a special forces soldier in one moment. The coolest of all. She's just like her mother!
At the moment when Vecna and the monster were killed, Joyce was shown and I thought how cool she came with them just to stand beautifully 😂 And then she fucked up Vecna's head👹 The flashbacks are great, their happiness in the van on the way back was very warm ❤️ Murray honking and Robin and Steve "CLOWNS" - class.
The scene with the military and Odi is not clear to me, so they all need Odi, she is standing there in the aisle alone, not running, nothing has exploded yet, the wind is not blowing, and they are stupidly watching and holding the boys 🗿Did you forget to think, it wasn't so necessary? After all, kryptonite was with them. It was sad to watch the goodbyes.
It's great that they showed you after. Max is so beautiful! And Robin. Girls are generally bombastic. Dustin's speech is fire.
The rooftop scene is heart-warming, so soulful, so warm, a bunch of such different friends who have been brought together by these terrible adventures. (By the way, at the moment of Steve's fall, I also jerked, Byers is a hero, and he could have flown away with Steve).
Well, the final company, the final story, and the theory that everyone wants to believe in. I thought they would bury Odi, but there is no body, but for some reason it seemed that this could be the case.
Overall, the ending is good. Although the theory that it was all a party in the DnD seemed interesting to me. Well, the company has come to an end, and it seems that this is a happy ending for all the characters.
She could fake her injury, escape unnoticed with the whole company from the wormhole and hide in a shelter with El, from where she could create an installation of El's death.
just as a hypothesis.
Steve got 6 little nuggets as he wanted))
I am very glad that she and Dustin reconciled earlier, and they are best friends again!!!
Max is insanely beautiful in the finale😍😍😍
Holly became the legal successor of Mike and his friends))) They also play board games now)
But the ending is open, so there may be a sequel, maybe in the form of a spin-off.
❤️
Well, the agenda - as the American electorate loves it now - makes no sense, but let it be, well, to hell with them, let them have it.
What a great series it turned out to be ...
everyone grew up so much, it was even unusual to see them as adults. 🥹🥲
And Dustin is so grown up this season. Poor guy, I love him so much, I was so sorry for him when Eddie died.. He died right in his arms... 💔
Will also matured so much .. He's become such a handsome guy) They showed it from the other side and finally it opened.
The end is as it should be. They released me and handed over my childhood.
And finally Hopper and Joyce went on a date.
I thought I couldn't wait for this moment.. A very cool and most beloved couple) 🔥🔥
Of course, I would like to know more about Henry's childhood.
For some reason, they are always villains and always broken by something..
It's a soooo awesome series, I DEFINITELY recommend it to everyone. 🔥(you will review it again))
Yes, indeed, * * very strange things **..
For me personally, the ending was in the same style as the whole series, there was no dissonance. Throughout the series, they miraculously figured out how to deal with an unknown something, built correct theories that were beyond the power of scientists, coordinated spontaneous plans with a minimum number of unplanned shoals. The ending was the same.
The military here is a faceless evil, a function, and therefore no one will punish the main characters in the end for opposing them. The good won, they didn't. It's exaggerated, but it's been like this the whole series. For example, did the military take away 50 children and their parents? Has the city split, but not settled? So these are the rules of the game. We accept it.
Saving the heroes at the last moment is also the rules of the game.
Finding the only right solution and implementing it together in a coordinated manner without losing the main team are also the rules of the game. Are those 12 kids clients of psychoanalysts forever? That well, no)))
Therefore, we accept the rules of their world and have fun ;)
And that's why the denouement came to me, I watched the series all the time, like a scary fairy tale with a tense plot and fantastic elements, and solutions taken out of thin air.
It's a pity, of course, that Noah Schnapp is gay, I would come to him and marry him haahah, my beloved Erica, Nance, Steve, hop, I'll never forget them at all, I love them, I hope that all people on earth will watch this series.
How I waited for this 5th season knowing that I would cry at the end, when I watched season 4 I cried, and now even more so.
Millie Bobby Brown is following her social networks, Noah Schnapp and so on, subscribed to them on Instagram, oh my God, how I love this series, I feel so bad, I hope that in the future I will meet someone who also drags along the osd and we will buy everything related to this series, God how I hope so.The actress who played Holly is just awesome, Derek with his own character.💋
Maybe no one will read it to the end, but I just didn't want to write in the notes, I wanted everyone to see how much I love this series, if I missed a comma somewhere, then don't blame it, I just have tears in my eyes. I want the same strong friendship, but I'll never have that, which makes me sad, but friendship is very important to me when you can write such messages and they will support you.
I love you all and wish you good luck, find a couple so that you can love very strange things together, bye everyone, I went to cry again.
I was laughing and crying. Dustin is the best! The coolest character!!!
Goodbye OSD, you are forever in my heart!
The taste and color of all markers are different, I personally liked the whole story, thanks a lot for that!
I'm so glad that the Lumaks got their happy ending. ♥
But, to the assumptions.
1. No one sees such energy anomalies except for a frail military unit? They were chasing the USSR there, like - no one sees that it's a shame for the world, and not for any one country? And even within the United States, no one is saving the world?
2. An unknown world through a wormhole - okay, Henry got used to it, he's a mutant - for everyone, suddenly, there's an atmosphere and gravity?
3. Well, they won, the military captured everyone - they let them live happily, and didn't cover their tracks, deciding on the spot? Seriously?
The trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLxvdUroRic
P.S. the full version of me is already on EXT torrents
It feels like the Great Depression is in the yard, and the Duffer brothers ~~ were obliged~~ forced to make a happy ending. You've been building suspense for several episodes, and here it is - the climax, the catharsis! 15 minutes pass and the final remains open, saying that no one sacrificed themselves. How's that?!
What a good season and how incompetently everything was leaked by the "cancellation" of Audie's death. The best moment remained this one.:
Forever in my heart. The final scenes are very touching, and the credits are a delight. I was touched.
I love OSD with all my heart. So many years have passed since the release of the first season, all the characters have become relatives. The series caught on immediately, and I remember my emotions when watching the first season - it was a complete delight.
And so I watched the finale... sad, as if I had said goodbye to someone very dear to my heart forever. And it's supposed to be good that everyone is still alive (except Odi? In the end, they left the ending open), but it feels like it wasn't supposed to be like that at all.…
5 seasons of fighting the invincible Age, and eventually a five-minute final battle. Op-op and Vecna with the mind flenser are dead.
Did Audie sacrifice herself... or didn't she? If not, why can't Mike go to that place with the waterfalls to find her?
You're making a happy ending, but why couldn't Nancy and Jonathan stay together?
I didn't keep track of the time at all while watching the last episode, but it seemed that the preparation for the battle and the events 18 months later took up more than the battle itself, although it may have seemed that way to me.…
In short, the ending is strange, and everything seems to be fine, but for some reason I feel so sad. I can't say that I didn't like it at all, but I was still waiting for something else) But... my expectations are my problems))
I was sure I was going to cry when watching the finale, but to my surprise, I didn't shed a tear all season (okay, Max and Lucas' reunion touched a little). I watched all the seasons as they were released, and as is usually the case, after all this time, some moments of the previous seasons were forgotten by me. I didn't have time to review the series from the very beginning, and it wasn't that much forgotten, so I got away with watching a short retelling. I thought that might be the reason, I didn't find the right vibe)) But after reading the comments, I realized that I'm not the only one.
There are a lot of thoughts in my head, some kind of confusion, but I wanted to share it.
Goodbye, OSD, you are forever in my heart!
The creators played with the expectations of each viewer in an exciting way, but showed their own story. It was nice to see the development of children and their growing up, but someone had a childhood... Mike still chose the second path, as did Hopper (a really important dialogue).
And then it's not the end... then everyone's life…
And the season wasn't completely terrible either, a few great episodes still somehow made it into this season.
In any case, this season didn't make the whole series worse for me. And this is quite an achievement, and not all TV shows can boast of it.
What a concentrated schizophrenia it is. I don't even know if it's more funny or embarrassing.
It would have been a complete explosion. 🤣🤣🤣
PS but we forgot that Max has a mom. lol
The second season is coming out in 2017. After watching a couple of episodes, I realize that the season is not coming to me, and I'm putting "Very Strange things" on the back burner.
The New Year's Weekend of 2026 is coming. After watching "It: Welcome to Derry," I realize that it's time, it's time to get "Stranger Things."
Oh, guys, what started here. Kate Bush is even playing in my dreams now! And the performance of Dustin and Suzy's song reminded me that I've been wanting to review "Endless Story" for years.
The second and third seasons were generally easy, funny and exciting, but the fourth one was kind of really annoying. The fifth season is the final season. There have never been so many heart-to-heart conversations about running in any season. But there was a funny kid with his "tuna salmon". By the way, the actor who plays him, in real life, because of a non-disclosure agreement, told everyone that he was filming a documentary about mayonnaise (I now have all the social networks in excerpts and proofs about OSD).
Joyce and Hopper finally went on a date at Enzos. Dustin did not forget about Eddie's cherished speech and delivered it at the graduation. But to be honest, my favorite couple in this series is Dustin and Steve :)
All the guys have grown up and moved on to a new life. I hope everything is fine with Audie in the end.
People were very critical of the end of this story, but I decided to accept it as it is. Each story has its own ending, the creators decided that it should be like this...
The fifth season of Stranger Things began filming without a ready-made script for the finale.
The creators of the TV series "Stranger Things" Matt and Ross Duffer admitted that the filming of the fifth and final season began without a ready script for the last episode. They talked about this in the Netflix documentary One Last Adventure.: The Making of Stranger Things 5.
According to Matt, the lack of a final script caused serious tension in the team, as the ending was considered a key part of the entire season.
In the process, the brothers also actively argued about the fate of Odie: one option suggested that the entire episode would lead to her death, but in the end, the authors decided to maintain ambiguity so as not to overload the audience with sharp plot twists.
Earlier, the showrunners said that they were considering other radical ideas for the finale — from changing sides of the Age to a large-scale battle with demogorgons. At one point, even the three-hour final episode was discussed, which could have affected the protracted work on the script.
The documentary One Last Adventure: The Making of Stranger Things 5 is available on Netflix.
The text: MirF.ru