@Rauf21: @Rauf21: Sonya's character is just some kind of Trindian. Toxicity on toxicity. I just don't understand how the scriptwriters prescribe it - scandals and situations are just pulled out of their fingers. What's with Roma in this episode, what's with Sana. However, I don't understand what audience the series is designed for. It is clear that many people watch just because of the feeling of memories of their childhood, but here you can count the successful episodes on your fingers. The jokes are flat, the behavior of a psychologist is not the behavior of a psychologist at all, the acting is absolute trash. This love square is chewed like tasteless gum. I'm just waiting for Dasha to show up...
I definitely don't mind Broom searching for himself and his life. But what a phenomenally unpleasant Tanya is... Oksana was charming and it was hard not to fall in love with her. And here's Tanya... Not like that
@Frida_Heldig: The difference between old school and new school is that at first there was just an abstract mom, whom we didn't even see, so Oksana impressed us and their relationship with Vasnetsov didn't hurt our eyes. But here we know Dasha, she is not abstract, we remember their story with a Broom, so naturally we compare and react to another girl accordingly.
@KisJulVl: maybe it works that way for some, but not for everyone. I'm not looking forward to Dasha's return, I'm not happy for their couple, and I'd like them to put an end to this story. At least because Sivaeva is already an adult and has not been filmed anywhere for a long time, which means this is her conscious choice. From which I conclude that they will not lure her to a full season, and she will appear in the role of a ghost cameo, muddy the waters.
But this Tanya is a really strange character. Her communication style confuses me first of all, sometimes she's cute, and sometimes she seems to have some kind of aggression, as if she's a little offended child.
Considering that she's a psychologist by profession, it doesn't fit at all. Psychologists are not super people, but she should be able to communicate with children by profession. Some of the scenes with the girls puzzled me, for example, her "friendship" with Arina, and some dialogues in the office.
@fairyinthepub: it seems to me that this character was simply ignored, they didn't bother to prescribe anything. Although I like it, it seems that they want to merge it.
@KisJulVl: a small PS: The Dasha-Broom pair was, IMHO, the coolest in the original Daddy's daughters, and I also really liked her, just like Dasha herself. But a lot of water has flowed since the characters have grown up, and now we generally have a situation where an adult woman, wife and mother (and not a rebellious teenager) left the family without saying a word, without even indicating the current status of their relationship with her husband. And I can't stand a couple like that.
A couple of young Dasha and Venika will always remain in my heart, and what is happening now is just a completely different universe for me. Everything has its time and place.
@Frida_Heldig: Didn't you understand what she was unpleasant about? It's kind of normal. It may be that you personally don't like something, you didn't notice any particular trouble in it.
@Yuronk: classic. Everyone's mad at Tanya just because she's there, and as many say, she hangs herself on a broom. Although if broom had been against it, he would have given her a lapel long ago.
if I'm not mistaken, Sanya seems to have been born before the appearance of broom in the series, she should be much older than Sonya, but here they seem to be the same age.
@phobicrae: Was she born in the classics, or was she just an abstract child? I just don't remember. And so maybe she's not the only offspring of Oksana and the Alligator)))
Oh, I remembered that I'm married. I pray that just kissing until midnight is a sign to us that the Broom doesn't cross the line, which means Dasha can come back...
Listen, the last time I just kissed until midnight was at the age of 19. Think about it, did the dude drive from work to the next location to his house just to kiss? Yes, I don't always go to my favorite store after work, because I have to make a small detour, so don't joke around so much. I understand that the series is a family show, but there have already been quite a few adult jokes. Although, again, I am against cheating. First the divorce, and then everything else.
@Тина46: Well, he's a grown man, moving around with a boner is like that) I'm too cynical and I don't believe that my peers can just kiss. Maybe it's not the heroes who have these problems, but me.
@mixer1701: well, + 10 months should be celebrated somehow, he set the table for Tanya, then we kissed until one o'clock in the morning. The buzz is the same) But I agree, you need to get a divorce first, and then start a new relationship.
@Тина46: I just don't get it. The wife has run away, it is not clear whether she will appear or not. Time is passing. What's he supposed to do, sit and wait like a fool? Well, he sat and waited, but it's not adequate to demand loyalty from a man to a woman who left him. And not just one, but with 4!!!!! My daughters. Normal libido, active, has desires, falls in love. No one is holding a candle over Dasha there either. If they want to sleep, please, adults. The argument "you slept with another woman" sounds weaker than "you left me with 4 kids and went off into the sunset."
@linoosya1998: so you need to put all the dots in their places. I'm in favor of Tanya and Venya, and I'm already writing out of sheer desperation that Venik needs to divorce Dasha first, and only then start a new relationship. I completely agree with you that time is passing and there is no point waiting for Dasha to return, + we do not know who Dasha is with, maybe she has already found a new man. If it's Nikita, then it's generally top, I'm only in favor of their relationship. And let's have a broom with Tanya, Dasha with Nikita. Therefore, to write to me that Dasha acted meanly with a Broom and her daughters, than a broom is not necessary)) I've been paying for it since the first episode anyway.
@aksinyakuper: Nikita is Dasha's classmate. Dasha liked him right away, she was in love with him. His parents are diplomats, Nikita is also a goth by the way)) (the actor's name is Makar Zaporizhsky) I read somewhere that Nikita was supposed to be Dasha's boyfriend, but the actor did not want to act further and left, and because of this, broom was prescribed
@Тина46: it's somehow very doubtful that Nikita wanted to be prescribed as Dasha's boyfriend, who was replaced by a Broom, given that there was only one full-fledged episode with him at the very beginning of the series, and the Broom appeared for the first time in the hundredth episodes. And Nikita showed up the second time after Dasha and the Broom had become a couple, and then more in the form of a reference...
Oh, or do you mean that back then, in the twentieth episodes, it should have developed into a full-fledged story, and not just one episode?
@yulialik: then when Nikita appeared, Nikita and Dasha were supposed to be a couple, but the actor refused to shoot, that's why, and soon a Broom was introduced and Dasha and a Broom were prescribed
@Volkha_Neumann: Well, it's just some kind of attack. What kind of unhealthy example do screenwriters use to resolve situations in order to show children who might be watching it?
@linoosya1998: agree. And everyone keeps running after her like idiots) Very unhealthy attitudes for young girls. If you're beautiful, do whatever heresy you want, behave like the last trash, and the boys will pile up at your feet anyway. Maybe that's how it works in real life, but it's disgusting. Scriptwriters - for soap. They seem to be trying to present it all to us as a conflict where everyone has their own truth, and everyone is right in their own way, but damn, Sonya is wrong all around and behaves like a beast with everyone, and Igor runs around and apologizes to her. I can't see her on the screen anymore, even though she's a nice actress.
That's what Sonya and Igor have done. Still, it amazes me how they decided to beat me, that Sanya didn't have a single question when Igor broke up with her to be with Sonya, and then Pyua came back. At least now the reaction has been prescribed.
Sonya turned all the dogs on Igor again. Yes, admit that there are a lot of cases. Well, it won't be possible to remain good for everyone after the creation. Igor was right to tell the truth in the end.
It seems to me that Sonya is afraid of being judged by other people, so she tried until the last moment not to tell the truth ... after everyone finds out about it, it may be that they will start bullying her or she will become an outcast.…
Igor acted like a man, but Sonya, as always, is unhappy 🙄 Sasha finally has an adequate reaction to the breakup, after all, the angels' patience runs out sooner or later.
Sonya is already tired of her toxicity She's mad at Igor, and she's trying to get along with Sanya, okay? Will we see at least some normal relations with Igor?
@meaurizio: Tanya is infuriating to everyone because, according to fans, she is a troublemaker, constantly hanging on to a broom, putting pressure on him. Everyone wants Dasha to come back, but no one loves Tanya. Tanya just exists, and she's already hated)
You don't want another mom to leave them. What an abomination. And she threw it at the broom. They say that your wife is bad, she left the children. And I'm good, I don't quit.
Initially, I was in favor of Broom starting a new relationship. Even if they get along with Dasha, just as a lesson to her and those who will be watching. While you're playing hide-and-seek with your husband, he might not find you at one moment, and he'll be fine with it.
In general, the position is the same, but not with Tanya.
As I read the analogy with Oksana in the comments here. She really made everyone fall in love with her. Kind, naive, exploring a different life with their family. She was very careful and tactful. She never said a bad word about her mother (by the way, Lyudmila Mikhailovna allowed herself such remarks, which strongly repelled her). And here, after three kisses, she already thinks of herself like that.
The fact that a broom made such a remark destroys the main principle of the Vasnetsovs (and indeed many families with children). You can call each other whatever you want, but strangers don't have the right to blab.
It's a disgusting moment, the whole episode was ruined with this phrase((((
@Feelatic_com: I wonder what Tanya was supposed to say? Diana really wanted to participate in this contest, and she suggested it to her family, which seemed strange to broom, since they couldn't do anything in the name of the contest. On the contrary, it seems to me that Tanya is doing everything right, she wants the girls to like her and even agrees to participate in this story. Well, in fact, if Tanya hadn't agreed, the Vasilyevs wouldn't have participated in this competition. + the girls offered her participation, she agreed, venik called and asked her not to participate, but Tanya had already agreed. And I just told the broom after the fact. There was nothing nasty or disgusting from Tanya. She didn't say, "You don't want another mother cuckoo to leave them," but that would probably be too much for me. But although damn, well, right there in fact.(dasha left them) + if broom was uncomfortable with this tone and her thoughts and Tanya in general, he would tell her everything he thinks about her.
I don't understand why you should shit on a character like that. She never messed with anyone, the broom itself was active towards her. She was just trying to help as a psychologist. Tanya saw that broom was having a hard time with his wife leaving, it was difficult for him with his daughters, and she just helped. + if you remember the moment when Tanya was evicted from the apartment, Tanya did not run to the Vasilyevs to ask them to spend the night, they offered it to her themselves and were happy, even saying that they did not mind if Tanya stayed longer. The moment in the cafe broom, the first one came up to Tanya and talked, the first one invited her on a date, well, yes, she kissed him, but if he didn't want it, he pushed her away.
I don't rule out that she liked a man, yes, married, yes, with children, well, damn, it could easily happen in life. For me, Ira behaved abominably and constantly wrapped herself in front of the Broom, and a cold vibe came from her. And Tanya is a warm character, a very kind and bright woman. I've never insulted anyone.
@Тина46: You answer me like all Tanya's haters. Most of your responses to common comments about Tanya that did not come from me personally. I was annoyed by one of her remarks, even after your arguments, I think she still allowed herself a lot by saying that.
Tanya is good in many ways, she fills in some gaps for the girls.
But it is this phrase that is overkill, which negates its positivity for me personally, at the moment. Let's see what happens next.
@Feelatic_com: Well, with the premise that your wife left you and the girls, I'm not going to leave a good one. Well, it's a fact again. She did not remain silent and did not leave Arina when the broom tied Arina's hands with a bandage because she was covered with a rash, Tanya went to deal with her father. You could see how she was protecting Arina. Many teachers, even knowing that there is violence in the child's family, remain silent and turn a blind eye to this, saying that I don't know anything from the edge of my hut. And Tanya figured it out, + she's also very kind and it's clear how she cares about broom's daughters. And I don't condemn the fact that she wants the girls to like her at all, she's doing the right thing. And if the person is good, you don't even have to try to like them. The girls treat her well themselves
@Feelatic_com: With Oksana, the situation was actually even simpler. There was generally more love on Sergei's part. There was more friendship on Oksana's part. At least she talked to Sergei and lived with them without a second thought, even after the quarrel with Fedotov. Therefore, it was perceived even easier.
The original daddy's daughters weren't so infuriating. Button was sweet and naive, Arina was just dumb, although she wasn't that small. Sonya is generally tough. You look at it and remind yourself that it's just a character. Xs why did they make her such a complete scum. It was as if the cleaning lady had written roles for the two of them
Oksana was charming and it was hard not to fall in love with her. And here's Tanya... Not like that
But here we know Dasha, she is not abstract, we remember their story with a Broom, so naturally we compare and react to another girl accordingly.
But this Tanya is a really strange character. Her communication style confuses me first of all, sometimes she's cute, and sometimes she seems to have some kind of aggression, as if she's a little offended child.
Considering that she's a psychologist by profession, it doesn't fit at all. Psychologists are not super people, but she should be able to communicate with children by profession. Some of the scenes with the girls puzzled me, for example, her "friendship" with Arina, and some dialogues in the office.
The Dasha-Broom pair was, IMHO, the coolest in the original Daddy's daughters, and I also really liked her, just like Dasha herself. But a lot of water has flowed since the characters have grown up, and now we generally have a situation where an adult woman, wife and mother (and not a rebellious teenager) left the family without saying a word, without even indicating the current status of their relationship with her husband. And I can't stand a couple like that.
A couple of young Dasha and Venika will always remain in my heart, and what is happening now is just a completely different universe for me. Everything has its time and place.
It may be that you personally don't like something, you didn't notice any particular trouble in it.
Think about it, did the dude drive from work to the next location to his house just to kiss? Yes, I don't always go to my favorite store after work, because I have to make a small detour, so don't joke around so much. I understand that the series is a family show, but there have already been quite a few adult jokes. Although, again, I am against cheating. First the divorce, and then everything else.
But I agree, you need to get a divorce first, and then start a new relationship.
I completely agree with you that time is passing and there is no point waiting for Dasha to return, + we do not know who Dasha is with, maybe she has already found a new man. If it's Nikita, then it's generally top, I'm only in favor of their relationship. And let's have a broom with Tanya, Dasha with Nikita. Therefore, to write to me that Dasha acted meanly with a Broom and her daughters, than a broom is not necessary)) I've been paying for it since the first episode anyway.
Oh, or do you mean that back then, in the twentieth episodes, it should have developed into a full-fledged story, and not just one episode?
Sonya turned all the dogs on Igor again. Yes, admit that there are a lot of cases. Well, it won't be possible to remain good for everyone after the creation. Igor was right to tell the truth in the end.
Sasha finally has an adequate reaction to the breakup, after all, the angels' patience runs out sooner or later.
She's mad at Igor, and she's trying to get along with Sanya, okay? Will we see at least some normal relations with Igor?
What an abomination.
And she threw it at the broom. They say that your wife is bad, she left the children. And I'm good, I don't quit.
Initially, I was in favor of Broom starting a new relationship. Even if they get along with Dasha, just as a lesson to her and those who will be watching. While you're playing hide-and-seek with your husband, he might not find you at one moment, and he'll be fine with it.
In general, the position is the same, but not with Tanya.
As I read the analogy with Oksana in the comments here. She really made everyone fall in love with her. Kind, naive, exploring a different life with their family. She was very careful and tactful. She never said a bad word about her mother (by the way, Lyudmila Mikhailovna allowed herself such remarks, which strongly repelled her).
And here, after three kisses, she already thinks of herself like that.
The fact that a broom made such a remark destroys the main principle of the Vasnetsovs (and indeed many families with children).
You can call each other whatever you want, but strangers don't have the right to blab.
It's a disgusting moment, the whole episode was ruined with this phrase((((
I don't understand why you should shit on a character like that. She never messed with anyone, the broom itself was active towards her. She was just trying to help as a psychologist. Tanya saw that broom was having a hard time with his wife leaving, it was difficult for him with his daughters, and she just helped. + if you remember the moment when Tanya was evicted from the apartment, Tanya did not run to the Vasilyevs to ask them to spend the night, they offered it to her themselves and were happy, even saying that they did not mind if Tanya stayed longer. The moment in the cafe broom, the first one came up to Tanya and talked, the first one invited her on a date, well, yes, she kissed him, but if he didn't want it, he pushed her away.
I don't rule out that she liked a man, yes, married, yes, with children, well, damn, it could easily happen in life. For me, Ira behaved abominably and constantly wrapped herself in front of the Broom, and a cold vibe came from her. And Tanya is a warm character, a very kind and bright woman. I've never insulted anyone.
I was annoyed by one of her remarks, even after your arguments, I think she still allowed herself a lot by saying that.
Tanya is good in many ways, she fills in some gaps for the girls.
But it is this phrase that is overkill, which negates its positivity for me personally, at the moment. Let's see what happens next.
And I don't condemn the fact that she wants the girls to like her at all, she's doing the right thing. And if the person is good, you don't even have to try to like them. The girls treat her well themselves