I just remembered Jean-Paul Sartre's book The Wall. Perhaps this is due to the moment when the convict was being led to execution. To be honest, it was difficult for me to understand supervisor Alexander and his thoughts about why he did not want to get married because of the tragic incident with his fiancee. Natasha's mother turned out to be no better either! 😒
As for outsourcing, to put it simply, it is the transfer of one's work responsibilities to other people — a kind of delegation of authority. For those who don't know, that's it! 😉
@vik_harley: The current Penal Enforcement Code states only that: 1. The death penalty is not carried out publicly by firing squad. The execution of the death penalty against several convicts is carried out separately for each and in the absence of the others. 2. The prosecutor, a representative of the institution where the death penalty is carried out, and a doctor are present during the execution of the death penalty. 3. The death of the convicted person is confirmed by the doctor.
That is, in general, there are no contradictions. But this is a reference to the current one, i.e. 1997.
@vik_harley: No one knows how the death penalty was carried out, except for the perpetrators and their circle of confidants.. And it's certainly not for the newspaper Aids-Info, issue No. 74 of 1995, to know this - whether it was a corridor, or a room, or even fucked up right in the cell, so as not to carry it far..
@marlenad_13: the times were different then, and even now, in some places, the same mores remain. raped means they ruined the girl, and if she gets knocked up? maybe they didn't even have anything before marriage. and it was also considered a disgrace, but what should I tell my family? plus, he was really starting to doubt her, which she had provoked. plus, it was believed that they get married only once, and if they don't get married now, it's far from certain that they will later. and unless everyone marries directly for love, this is far from the case.
@a_delta: Yes, everything is the same now. They were raped. They are silent. Because no one will believe it. They'll accuse you. I provoked it myself, I shouldn't have drunk/dressed like that/provoked it.
@Flotus: me too) in this eternal hat and with a specific, so to speak, make-up from the 90s. It's also unusual that she plays the mother of such an adult daughter.
@Flotus: the same thing) at first they didn't recognize her with her husband, and then they found out how she started screaming! In particular, I remembered the "Highway" with her.
@Flotus: I'm glad to see the person who watched "Vacation". Somehow, this film has not become very popular, despite the fact that it is quite interesting. Daria Savelyeva is a discovery, I'm glad to see her here too)
It's a good start, as far as I'm concerned. The characters are all ambiguous, not white or black, but gray. The signs of the era are recognizable, the city is chthonic, devastation, poverty. But nature is beautiful. Of course, the attitude of the characters, both men and women (except Konstantin) to rape is terrifying: it's your own fault and don't tell anyone, there's less of that now, thank God.
@driveshaft: and what exactly is her fault? please explain, it's not completely clear... I didn't seem to promise him anything, it was immediately announced that I was busy. Is she to blame for not giving it voluntarily?
if you start to look into this, I'm afraid it will turn out that she is completely to blame for being born a woman))) I will never understand those who tell the victim "it's your own fault", what the fuck is in your head?!
@satin0420: You're wrong about "promised nothing," of course. First of all, it's a terrible thing to do to a human being. It's like men who show the intentions of a relationship with all their actions and hints, and then say, "I didn't promise you anything." (I should immediately note that I am only talking about Natasha's behavior, I condemn further actions as much as possible!). And doing this is terrible towards yourself, because this is a deliberate risk.
And secondly. Now, with the feminist movement, women are really neglecting their safety. Because women already have the "my body is my business" mindset. But men still have a very, very little understanding of the disgust of their behavior. Therefore, if we touch on the subject of the plot, I want to emphasize that the provocation was on the part of the victim. This does not justify the rapist in any way. But a person has a responsibility for his own safety.
I cannot say that Natasha is to blame for the rape, it would be untrue. But I can say that she is to blame for her irresponsible attitude towards herself.
@satin0420: I understand that the opinion is unpopular on this resource, but yes, it's partly my fault.. Did you ask for an explanation? I'm explaining. Were you twirling your ass (dancing) in front of an unknown man? I twisted it. Consciously, moreover. Specially. Did you take a glass? Accepted it. At the end of the bachelorette party, it generally shows how three girlfriends leave the toilet window - that is, they directly dynamite the men who ate and drank from their hands, had fun and rested (obviously at their expense). So yes, YES! My fault.. Don't you want to be guilty? everything is very simple. Do not accept any gifts - wine, fruit, shish kebab.. If they put it on your table, send it back. If they don't take it back, DON'T fucking TOUCH it.. It's not yours.. I ate at least a piece, drank a glass, that's it, consider that I VOLUNTARILY agreed to continue.. And I don't need this vanilla stuff right now, saying that it's just a treat - NO fucking way.. On the part of the person who is serving this treat, this is a direct invitation.. And if you take it, don't be surprised later.. And - no, I'm not justifying the actions of those people who use this technique - I'm just chewing out the logic that they use, and which they have the RIGHT to use.. For the reason, see above.
The horror and hopeless blackness, ranging from interiors and infidelities, ending with the weather — the atmosphere was a success.
I liked that it was stated in direct text (also through a man, wow) that the victim of sexualized violence is not to blame, despite her behavior/ clothing/any other perceived identity of the criminal.
So far, I see that Sasha initially didn't really want to get married, so after the violence he was thinking about jumping off.
Steklov's character is kind of muddy again, and so is the doctor. The question is, will something happen to the most honest prosecutor?
@id813339709: is a person obviously weaker to blame so that he should be beaten and raped, humiliated? Just because she's drunk, a young fool, and wearing a short skirt? Holy shit, of course. It is very important that such topics are raised more and more often.
@id813339709: Where did you come from? I went to look at the profile - with 3 watched episodes of 4k dislikes. Get out of here, you miserable bot, do something good. 😉
@id813339709: I'll figure out what to watch and what not to watch. And don't relax, we like your comments with antediluvian views, don't hesitate, see how many fans you have, how many likes! Babble 🤩
@marlenad_13: and thank you, I hoped that I had exaggerated everything so much that only those who really see their views reflected in this nonsense can take it at face value and not redeem it. Apparently, he was mistaken.
@ssusiha: It was directed at a specific person I was responding to, and it was a form of expressing annoyance. and your take is questionable, because trolling is designed to provoke a reaction, that's its essence.
Those who watched the Track and Khrustalny, of course, recognize Gligorov's directorial handwriting, as always-gloomy as gloomy, and it is clear that the actors literally got used to their roles. I would like to mention the work of the production designers, costumers and props - such a juicy picture with so many attributes and attention to detail was not even in the boy's word. Literally from the first frame you immerse yourself in the atmosphere of that era.
Darkness, blackness and stuff. In general, nothing else was expected. It's a beautiful picture (oh, those colors and views of a northern provincial town). I was very pleased with the attention to even the smallest details – it turns out to be very atmospheric, the maximum immersion in that era.
The characters are still very ambiguous, let's see how they will unfold further. Konstantin, of course, is so harsh: he executed the sentence without unnecessary words, jumped out at the bandit with a sawed-off shotgun)) At first, he didn't seem like such a quick target. It's interesting to look at his backstory, I think it's obviously not all that smooth, since he was sent to such a wilderness.
Kostya's conversation with Sasha is a special thanks for this, the only correct attitude to the topic of violence. I really feel sorry for the girl, it was painful to watch her dialogue with her mother and the scene in the bathroom. Such hopeless loneliness..
Gligorov keeps his mark, he succeeds in such projects. Nothing is clear yet, but there is a feeling that Konstantin did not just end up in this colony.
@driveshaft: Well, let's tell me the circumstances when a woman is guilty of rape herself. This is how much of an idiot you have to be to look for the guilt of a rape victim, when the rapist is always the only one to blame for the rape. I hope you don't have a girlfriend, a sister, or a close friend who, God forbid, will be raped, and you go up to her and tell her that it's your own fault that you were taken by force.
@driveshaft: When girls who walk around in pants and a down jacket are raped and killed, did she provoke them too? Being dressed in a skirt, blouse and dancing in a bar where everyone is doing it is not the behavior of a whore who wants to be raped and she consents to it. So there is no causal relationship between you. It's always the rapist's fault. Even on the show, she turned him down and left with her friends. But the guy tracked her down to rape her because it's okay in his head, apparently so are you))
@driveshaft: The rapist is a criminal and only he is to blame. I repeat, did she provoke the girls who walk around in a down jacket and sportswear, who are then raped and killed? Such a thing as provoked shouldn't sound like it. If a man rapes, takes by force, it means that he already has some problems in his head and he needs help to rape a girl who does not want it and has not given her consent. It couldn't be any other way. This is not a feminine mindset, but an adequate and healthy one. You're comparing the series and trash's life. As far as I remember, in 13 reasons why they were in the Jacuzzi, she was in a swimsuit, because they also bathe in it, and they bathed in it, but he took her by force when she said no, but he did not stop and continued to rape her, and then threw the used one. And this is not the first time this guy has done this in the series. So here you can talk if you have problems with your head right away . If you have the same feelings when you see a girl in a skirt in a bar and want to rape her, then please seek help so as not to ruin another person's life.
@driveshaft: Well, you're mixing Risk and Guilt into one pile, you've got some kind of mess in your head. According to your logic, it's dangerous to leave the house, because if you do, you're guilty, no matter what (rape, accident, theft), but you're safe and sound. How are you? Do you cross the law often? Because someone in a short skirt went through the garages nearby? The actions that led to rape are the presence of rapists, the rest are attempts to justify them. All.
@driveshaft: Do you attribute the risk as a fault, what does female logic have to do with it? Substitution of concepts is your logic) Even if a woman were standing naked on the street, this is not a permission to rape her. I'm not going to discuss situations where women write statements after consensual sex right now - that's another story. We are currently discussing a specific moment and it is unequivocal here, the rapist is to blame, tracked down, put in a car, took away and raped with beatings. It doesn't matter that she was at the bar earlier and chatted with him, it matters that she told him No. An adequate person understands everything, but people like you try to fit any arguments to justify the criminal, calling it rational arguments for some reason. There are no excuses for the word at all! What does feminism have to do with it? Let's take another situation: a woman meets you in a bar, you dance, drink, chat with a woman in between, but you refuse her intimacy because you don't want to and say I'm going home. She tracks you down, pushes you into a car because she can, rapes you, and so on down the list. Is it like violence or not?
@driveshaft: without taking the sexual act itself (under duress, but you think you provoked it... let's say), but how do you explain the brutal beatings on the face and all over the body? If we follow the logic that a woman provokes sexual intercourse with her behavior and revealing outfit (like she wants to, but breaks down), then how can we explain the beating and mutilation?
@driveshaft: I'm sorry, but you can confuse risk and guilt, as you were correctly told above. But you can't (or don't want to) answer my question about why one person is beating up another who allegedly provoked them. She is cruel in everything: to take a woman by force, to beat someone who is weaker... And then don't forget that a woman simply wanted attention, for example, but even if she had consented to sexual intercourse, it doesn't mean that she can be beaten. Even prostitutes can't be raped. They're kind of at risk. But if a man brutally beats or bullies a woman, it's always the man's fault. Moreover, it shows a very typical situation for that time, when a kid fancies himself a macho man whom no one can refuse. He didn't just offer her a ride after dancing together, but tracked her down, forced her... It's only his fault, the silly girl, but it's certainly not her fault. A bunch of men were dynamited and will be dynamited, but they are raped, thank God, not everyone is raped. No matter what anyone does, you can't use sexual violence. There is a lot of animal in us, of course, but still a reasonable person should be aware of his actions and not commit crimes against the individual.
@MerryCherry: I didn't answer because you're all going to another steppe and there's no point in arguing here because you don't see an obvious cause-and-effect relationship. It's not a matter of can't-can't. It's not the rapist's fault or not. The point is that certain actions led to a certain outcome. And it could have been avoided. Even the policeman noticed it in one of the following episodes, that the girlfriends so confidently declare that she reached home, although they did not see it.
@de_javu: Yes, this fucker is just biting comments, why are you reacting to him He probably likes it when certain accessories are shoved into indecent places without his will, so he decided that the rest too))
@rid86: Please review the episode.. Stroking your tits and twirling your ass, purposefully looking at a PARTICULAR man at the same time - is this not the behavior of a whore??? Well, OK, cho, I have no more questions..
That's promising. However, the dialogues have been adjusted, of course, to pseudo-psychology, which looks terribly dreary and unnatural. I really like the actor from "Epidemic"
well, it's okay)) I haven't seen anything like this for a long time, the only thing is gloomy, Kostya...It's infuriating at the beginning, how he harnesses a maniac, and also calls him a man. maniacs, a priori, cannot be human! but Kostyan is not an easy guy here, he seems to take care of the prisoners, but he just kills)) and I don't like the game of Kalimulin (Sasha) in any TV series, although he played a fool in the Epidemic. 😁
I didn't have any expectations for this series, I just knew that such a project was going to be released. And now a very pleasant event has happened. I like the films in which Yankovsky is shot. The plot turned out to be very intriguingly wrapped up. The picture is really very juicy, vague and hopeless, like in a highway. Yankovsky, as in other projects, plays the role of a straightforward fighter for justice and humanity, it seems at first glance, but ... I think not everything is so simple and he will find an advantageous position for himself in the next series.
The right questions were asked in difficult situations, but what really triggered this mother, who found out that her daughter had been raped, after some time, watches TV and laughs while her child lies in another room, looks at the ropes in the shower and thinks about *Roskomnadzor* where she eventually comes to... Well, the transmission of the atmosphere is strong, you can feel it, it catches...
I liked the first episode. I love Yankovsky, I usually get projects with him. Sorry about the girl. It's crazy, of course, how strong the thought is in people's heads - it's her own fault. No, it's not the victim's fault, it's the fault of the freak who decided that he could do anything. I hope that further episodes will be on the same level. Was it my imagination, or was Roman very interested in Nina? It was even kind of ominous, the way he looked at Kostya's wife. As if she didn't just like it, but something on the verge of obsession and could end very badly.
It's kind of boring. Yankovsky is playing Vova Adidas again. But the moral of his character is kind of unclear. He seems to show humanity at work, but outside of work he lives by concepts.
The situations are shown as for a modern viewer, but they need to be judged from the perspective of that time.
I can't imagine how they're going to get a guy into jail yet.
I've seen so many ads for this series lately, I thought it would be, as it often happens with advertised projects - you wait for wow, but you get nothing. But no, I'm glad I was wrong. In fact, an hour flew by in 15 minutes. everything is fine - and visually pleasing, and the story is interesting to watch, and the actors are good. Most of all, it's interesting to find out what's wrong with Yankovsky's character, who seems to be trying to take care and treat people like humans, and then coolly drenches people right and left.
I'm watching and I think that it's probably on purpose that the feed is so heavy to constantly think about and guess for myself about all sorts of relationships, but it turned out that I accidentally started watching from episode 2. And after all, I almost did it, I think this is the next episode, now everything that is unclear and unsaid will be clarified, well, now I will watch the prequel.;
@IL-2: in the Milan TV channel "unwritten review" I came across a longrid about the credits.
Next to the name of Ivan Yankovsky is, as I believe, the head of David, a fragment of Michelangelo's most famous statue.
The Renaissance master captured the biblical hero, the future king of Judea and Israel, before the battle with Goliath. The Old Testament describes how the young shepherd David volunteered to fight the giant Goliath, armed only with a sling and five stones. With a well-aimed throw, he struck the enemy, and then cut off his head, winning not by force, but by faith and wit.
The name of Eldar Kalimulin is accompanied by an engraving of Apollo (1588) by the Dutch artist Hendrik Goltzius
It is believed that the engraving depicting the Greek god of light is part of a series of works by Goltzius dedicated to the ancient gods, in which he explored the ideal proportions of the human body.
Goltzius's engravings became the clearest example of the trend of Mannerism, characterized by the loss of Renaissance harmony between the physical and spiritual, nature and man.
@wolfork15: An engraving of the Dance of Fauns and Bacchantes, dating from the 16th century, by an anonymous Italian author, appears in the title with the performers of minor roles.
Fauns in Roman mythology were considered helpers of the gods and patrons of nature, and Bacchantes in antiquity were called companions of Dionysus.
The sculpture Laocoon and his sons (Agesander, Polydoros, Athenodorus of Rhodes, 1st century BC) depicts a theme taken from the epic cycle, or rather from the Trojan War.
In mythology, Laocoon was a Trojan priest who warned his fellow Trojans not to take the legendary Trojan horse with them to their city.
Well, that's really good. The frame, the credits, the plot, even the sound seemed better than we are used to listening to in Russian TV series. I'm looking further with curiosity!
@LuM_E: the sound is good, but the diction of some actors (there are few of them, but still) is not very good. Sometimes it's just not clear what they're saying. This applies to the doctor's wife, for example.
@-TraumfraU-: Unfortunately, many people have unintelligible speech, I no longer resist and watch only with headphones - they literally drag the sound in Russian TV series))
@915329rita: No, it's clear that I'm not a blogger, coach, or some other information Gypsy, but someone has to clean up the shit, both literally and figuratively.. Otherwise, you'll drown in it yourself, everyone is so successful and in a streaming resource... although my PERSONAL opinion is, fuck you.. The world would be cleaner..
I'm even surprised how this series almost passed me by. Since I had absolutely no expectations, I'm thrilled. I was dragged out from the very first minutes of watching. I think it will be similar to the Highway in terms of gravity, but definitely not less.
I've noticed something about Russian modern TV series.
Prostitutes. Will there ever be a TV series that doesn't poke caricature prostitutes? Almost any series shows the same view, and it doesn't matter in what period the events take place. I'm already feeling sick. Almost all series jump from one extreme to the other. There is no series that has a middle ground. Either the characters are rich rich, or poverty is in the edge.
As it is, I can't speak for the entire series after watching one episode.
- Does the prosecutor calmly enter the prison territory and is this news to the boss every time? His subordinates from the checkpoint do not inform him about this? - the prosecutor reads out ONE SHEET of the verdict???)))))) - 1996, the security forces don't even make ends meet, like 85% of the rest of the population of a collapsing country, but does a sergeant buy medicines for Pyzhik with his hard money? Well, well.. - Again, it's 1996, and the prosecutor, who also does not make ends meet, lives in his parents' apartment with them and his wife, shal***y.. And this overdressed creature walks around the house dressed up in a prostitute's dress and stilettos (where did she get it, what did she buy it for, although she complains about the lack of money, and it's so obvious?) and his presence in the frame raises only one question.. "WHAT'S GOING ON HERE"??? Who is she anyway and how does she live? What kind of mouth does she open if she obviously doesn't do anything and steals money at the same time!!??
And this is 15 minutes of the first episode.. Are the screenwriter and director 20 years old? They don't know how life was in the 90s and are unable to hire a person who knows how everything works in the zones?? How can such heresy be removed??? What kind of nonsense is this????
PySy: Here, at least, as at 5:32, they are shot not in an open field and in the presence of a prosecutor and a doctor..))))))
@PiRanha: - and why is ONE sheet of the resolution surprising? Or is it necessary to read all 5-10 volumes of the UD?? By the way, in any legal proceedings there are two parts - resolute and motivational.. A motivation letter, for example, can take up hundreds of pages, and a resolution will be four sentences..
I saw a lot of reels on this series in "Nelzyagram" and decided to watch it. I'm interested in the plot, I'll definitely watch it. It's also a plus that the cast is good and Jankowski's acting is very convincing.
Why is everyone being compared to Balabanov? Not even close. Or, most likely, they just didn't get into Balabanov's films. Serik is still a C, like everyone else from Tsekalo - a lot of platitudes, dialogues like that, and of course tons of money in the pocket (as evidenced by the number of comments here)
@NoizPitcher: Money for PR?) And where was he?)) I watch a lot, but I found out about the series 2 days before the release of the first episode, that's PR of course))) People checked out Gligorov, and the comments came from there))
@NoizPitcher: The fact that I personally have not seen the advertisement, although I do not live in the forest. The Tg-publics are quite quiet. What is the amount and where is it? Especially everywhere, so I'm surprised.
@de_javu: I don't have to waste my time and prove anything to you about this "most anticipated TV series of the year", it's you who are doing the verbiage, and people already understand everything.
@NoizPitcher: When there is nothing to say, such nonsense begins, you wrote me 3 comments without answering the question and now you refer to the fact that you are very busy)) Funny))) There's a ton of money in PR, advertising everywhere, eh? What? I don't have to waste time))) Okay! Good luck)))
At the beginning of the episode, when the main characters were walking through the prison courtyard, there were bars on the windows, and a coil on top of the bars. Why is this coil needed?
@de_javu: Did many people go to the wedding wearing a hat? while the rest of the guests are sitting without ? and to sit in the kitchen in an apron, but to cut salad in a hat too? It was an exaggerated attempt to convey the spirit of the era, apparently, and not how it actually was.
@catnippeppermint: Google it, you'll learn a lot))) It was fashionable to wear hats, plus a good hat is a sign of security, is it wild? Of course)) but that's really how it was)))
@de_javu: so why are the others without hats then. no one at a wedding would wear a hat, even if it meant prosperity. I don't need to Google, I have someone to ask.
@catnippeppermint: Well, no matter how, it's enough to remember some movie, like the Irony of fate, as they sat there in hats at the table. Well, if you don't want to Google it, then there's just a lot of interesting photos you can look at to broaden your horizons and understanding)) The USSR was like that, even though I was small, I remember these hats very well)))
@catnippeppermint: My parents have women wearing hats in half of their photos from events and photo shoots from work in those years. I also remember being surprised when I saw that in the professional general photo, absolutely all the women in the room were without outerwear, but wearing hats. It really happened, I don't know why you're arguing so hard.
Natasha's mom is tough, but I like Yankovsky's character, especially his dialogue with Sledge on the shore. It seems to be good so far, we will look further. Well, that third sergeant is annoying, who stares at the wife of the hero of Yankovsky, it seems that he will do something.
So far, I liked the first episode, the atmosphere is still gloomy, as it was at that time, all this greyness, the hero of Yankovsky is not forgiven for acting as such an antihero to extinguish all kinds of scum
The prisoner's story was about Spesivtsev. I remembered Anna Kulik's book "Portrait of a Psychopath" A terrible Crime. She doesn't just write about him there. The mention of this story gave the series a gloomy picture, as for me.
A good start. A lot of things were shown in the first episode. Interesting dialogues, attitudes towards prisoners and crimes. And who are the judges? )) The dashing 90s, how people lived, their way of life and views. A good cast of actors. The topic is not hackneyed, I wonder how it will be removed. We're watching.
That's right! The sound barrier doesn't steam at all) The song of "The Mouse " M. Krug - 2000, and "Goodbye, sidekick" S. Nagovitsyn - 1999 The series takes place in 1996..
This is an intriguing beginning, let's see what happens next. But I'm more outraged by the behavior of a man who starts yelling at girls after she says I was raped.
The visual style of the series is good, I really like it. In general, as for the picture, we have learned to do well. And the story is also very interesting. The attitude towards rape is very depressing, and it's a good thing that there is no such game now, at least not on such a huge scale as it was in those years. And I wonder how they will develop this outsourcing story, this guy will bring them "clients", or they will somehow spread the rumor that they can kill the offender with their own hands.
I've watched too many TV shows, both Russian and foreign, but this one turned out to be absolutely uninteresting. 🤷♂️ I don't know who might be interested in him, but honestly 🤔 I watched the first episode, started the second, and turned it off in the middle and forgot...
Of course, I understand that it shows the hard nineties and all that. But it looks very uncomfortable. Apparently this series is for fans of the word of the kid. By the way, I think the word kid is incredible shit. That's how many Russian TV series I've seen, the word of a kid is the shittiest of all. I think that if he came to you, then you can safely look at outsourcing. If the theme of the nineties is close to you and you want to see the real heavy nineties, then please watch with pleasure. Personally, I've wasted my time... there are plenty of Russian TV series that I'm willing to recommend instead.
Based on the work from the prototype of "Deniskin's Stories" - this alone caused me severe mental trauma. Deniska spent a glorious, carefree childhood in a strange mix of socialist realism and magical realism... and he lived to the 90s.
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179I just remembered Jean-Paul Sartre's book The Wall. Perhaps this is due to the moment when the convict was being led to execution. To be honest, it was difficult for me to understand supervisor Alexander and his thoughts about why he did not want to get married because of the tragic incident with his fiancee. Natasha's mother turned out to be no better either! 😒
As for outsourcing, to put it simply, it is the transfer of one's work responsibilities to other people — a kind of delegation of authority. For those who don't know, that's it! 😉
1. The death penalty is not carried out publicly by firing squad. The execution of the death penalty against several convicts is carried out separately for each and in the absence of the others.
2. The prosecutor, a representative of the institution where the death penalty is carried out, and a doctor are present during the execution of the death penalty.
3. The death of the convicted person is confirmed by the doctor.
That is, in general, there are no contradictions. But this is a reference to the current one, i.e. 1997.
See "track" earlier
And here he apparently has designs on the wife of a colleague.
Then, when she got up in the kitchen and started talking in her own way, she realized that it was her
I remember her as a kind, sweet and naive girl from the melodramas)
Daria Savelyeva is a discovery, I'm glad to see her here too)
I will never understand those who tell the victim "it's your own fault", what the fuck is in your head?!
First of all, it's a terrible thing to do to a human being. It's like men who show the intentions of a relationship with all their actions and hints, and then say, "I didn't promise you anything."
(I should immediately note that I am only talking about Natasha's behavior, I condemn further actions as much as possible!).
And doing this is terrible towards yourself, because this is a deliberate risk.
And secondly. Now, with the feminist movement, women are really neglecting their safety. Because women already have the "my body is my business" mindset. But men still have a very, very little understanding of the disgust of their behavior.
Therefore, if we touch on the subject of the plot, I want to emphasize that the provocation was on the part of the victim. This does not justify the rapist in any way.
But a person has a responsibility for his own safety.
I cannot say that Natasha is to blame for the rape, it would be untrue.
But I can say that she is to blame for her irresponsible attitude towards herself.
Did you ask for an explanation? I'm explaining.
Were you twirling your ass (dancing) in front of an unknown man? I twisted it. Consciously, moreover. Specially.
Did you take a glass? Accepted it.
At the end of the bachelorette party, it generally shows how three girlfriends leave the toilet window - that is, they directly dynamite the men who ate and drank from their hands, had fun and rested (obviously at their expense).
So yes, YES! My fault..
Don't you want to be guilty? everything is very simple.
Do not accept any gifts - wine, fruit, shish kebab.. If they put it on your table, send it back. If they don't take it back, DON'T fucking TOUCH it.. It's not yours.. I ate at least a piece, drank a glass, that's it, consider that I VOLUNTARILY agreed to continue..
And I don't need this vanilla stuff right now, saying that it's just a treat - NO fucking way.. On the part of the person who is serving this treat, this is a direct invitation.. And if you take it, don't be surprised later..
And - no, I'm not justifying the actions of those people who use this technique - I'm just chewing out the logic that they use, and which they have the RIGHT to use.. For the reason, see above.
I liked that it was stated in direct text (also through a man, wow) that the victim of sexualized violence is not to blame, despite her behavior/ clothing/any other perceived identity of the criminal.
So far, I see that Sasha initially didn't really want to get married, so after the violence he was thinking about jumping off.
Steklov's character is kind of muddy again, and so is the doctor. The question is, will something happen to the most honest prosecutor?
Holy shit, of course.
It is very important that such topics are raised more and more often.
I would like to mention the work of the production designers, costumers and props - such a juicy picture with so many attributes and attention to detail was not even in the boy's word.
Literally from the first frame you immerse yourself in the atmosphere of that era.
The characters are still very ambiguous, let's see how they will unfold further. Konstantin, of course, is so harsh: he executed the sentence without unnecessary words, jumped out at the bandit with a sawed-off shotgun)) At first, he didn't seem like such a quick target. It's interesting to look at his backstory, I think it's obviously not all that smooth, since he was sent to such a wilderness.
Kostya's conversation with Sasha is a special thanks for this, the only correct attitude to the topic of violence. I really feel sorry for the girl, it was painful to watch her dialogue with her mother and the scene in the bathroom. Such hopeless loneliness..
Nothing is clear yet, but there is a feeling that Konstantin did not just end up in this colony.
According to your logic, it's dangerous to leave the house, because if you do, you're guilty, no matter what (rape, accident, theft), but you're safe and sound.
How are you? Do you cross the law often? Because someone in a short skirt went through the garages nearby?
The actions that led to rape are the presence of rapists, the rest are attempts to justify them. All.
Even if a woman were standing naked on the street, this is not a permission to rape her.
I'm not going to discuss situations where women write statements after consensual sex right now - that's another story.
We are currently discussing a specific moment and it is unequivocal here, the rapist is to blame, tracked down, put in a car, took away and raped with beatings.
It doesn't matter that she was at the bar earlier and chatted with him, it matters that she told him No.
An adequate person understands everything, but people like you try to fit any arguments to justify the criminal, calling it rational arguments for some reason. There are no excuses for the word at all!
What does feminism have to do with it?
Let's take another situation: a woman meets you in a bar, you dance, drink, chat with a woman in between, but you refuse her intimacy because you don't want to and say I'm going home.
She tracks you down, pushes you into a car because she can, rapes you, and so on down the list.
Is it like violence or not?
He probably likes it when certain accessories are shoved into indecent places without his will, so he decided that the rest too))
anything like this for a long time, the only thing is gloomy, Kostya...It's infuriating at the beginning, how he harnesses a maniac, and also calls him a man. maniacs, a priori, cannot be human! but Kostyan is not an easy guy here, he seems to take care of the prisoners, but he just kills)) and I don't like the game of Kalimulin (Sasha) in any TV series, although he played a fool in the Epidemic. 😁
Sorry about the girl. It's crazy, of course, how strong the thought is in people's heads - it's her own fault. No, it's not the victim's fault, it's the fault of the freak who decided that he could do anything.
I hope that further episodes will be on the same level.
Was it my imagination, or was Roman very interested in Nina? It was even kind of ominous, the way he looked at Kostya's wife. As if she didn't just like it, but something on the verge of obsession and could end very badly.
The situations are shown as for a modern viewer, but they need to be judged from the perspective of that time.
I can't imagine how they're going to get a guy into jail yet.
But no, I'm glad I was wrong. In fact, an hour flew by in 15 minutes.
everything is fine - and visually pleasing, and the story is interesting to watch, and the actors are good.
Most of all, it's interesting to find out what's wrong with Yankovsky's character, who seems to be trying to take care and treat people like humans, and then coolly drenches people right and left.
The conversation on the black sand coast reminded me of the first episodes of "black spring" 💔
I remembered the French film "I will always remember your faces"2023 about the interaction of victims and criminals. But there are nuances.
Next to the name of Ivan Yankovsky is, as I believe, the head of David, a fragment of Michelangelo's most famous statue.
The Renaissance master captured the biblical hero, the future king of Judea and Israel, before the battle with Goliath. The Old Testament describes how the young shepherd David volunteered to fight the giant Goliath, armed only with a sling and five stones. With a well-aimed throw, he struck the enemy, and then cut off his head, winning not by force, but by faith and wit.
The name of Eldar Kalimulin is accompanied by an engraving of Apollo (1588) by the Dutch artist Hendrik Goltzius
It is believed that the engraving depicting the Greek god of light is part of a series of works by Goltzius dedicated to the ancient gods, in which he explored the ideal proportions of the human body.
Goltzius's engravings became the clearest example of the trend of Mannerism, characterized by the loss of Renaissance harmony between the physical and spiritual, nature and man.
An engraving of the Dance of Fauns and Bacchantes, dating from the 16th century, by an anonymous Italian author, appears in the title with the performers of minor roles.
Fauns in Roman mythology were considered helpers of the gods and patrons of nature, and Bacchantes in antiquity were called companions of Dionysus.
The production designer got😁😁
The sculpture Laocoon and his sons (Agesander, Polydoros, Athenodorus of Rhodes, 1st century BC)
depicts a theme taken from the epic cycle, or rather from the Trojan War.
In mythology, Laocoon was a Trojan priest who warned his fellow Trojans not to take the legendary Trojan horse with them to their city.
Most likely, a typical scenario awaits next - pregnancy
Roman was shown very little, but the fact that he liked Kostya's wife is noticeable.
Vanya and Eldar in the same series ❤️
Yankovsky is amazing as always.
although my PERSONAL opinion is, fuck you.. The world would be cleaner..
Prostitutes. Will there ever be a TV series that doesn't poke caricature prostitutes? Almost any series shows the same view, and it doesn't matter in what period the events take place. I'm already feeling sick. Almost all series jump from one extreme to the other. There is no series that has a middle ground. Either the characters are rich rich, or poverty is in the edge.
As it is, I can't speak for the entire series after watching one episode.
- the prosecutor reads out ONE SHEET of the verdict???))))))
- 1996, the security forces don't even make ends meet, like 85% of the rest of the population of a collapsing country, but does a sergeant buy medicines for Pyzhik with his hard money? Well, well..
- Again, it's 1996, and the prosecutor, who also does not make ends meet, lives in his parents' apartment with them and his wife, shal***y.. And this overdressed creature walks around the house dressed up in a prostitute's dress and stilettos (where did she get it, what did she buy it for, although she complains about the lack of money, and it's so obvious?) and his presence in the frame raises only one question.. "WHAT'S GOING ON HERE"??? Who is she anyway and how does she live? What kind of mouth does she open if she obviously doesn't do anything and steals money at the same time!!??
And this is 15 minutes of the first episode.. Are the screenwriter and director 20 years old? They don't know how life was in the 90s and are unable to hire a person who knows how everything works in the zones??
How can such heresy be removed??? What kind of nonsense is this????
PySy:
Here, at least, as at 5:32, they are shot not in an open field and in the presence of a prosecutor and a doctor..))))))
- and why is ONE sheet of the resolution surprising? Or is it necessary to read all 5-10 volumes of the UD?? By the way, in any legal proceedings there are two parts - resolute and motivational.. A motivation letter, for example, can take up hundreds of pages, and a resolution will be four sentences..
People checked out Gligorov, and the comments came from there))
The Tg-publics are quite quiet.
What is the amount and where is it? Especially everywhere, so I'm surprised.
There's a ton of money in PR, advertising everywhere,
eh? What? I don't have to waste time)))
Okay! Good luck)))
Why can't you not chew on words?
Yankovsky is incomparable.
It was fashionable to wear hats, plus a good hat is a sign of security, is it wild? Of course)) but that's really how it was)))
I also remember being surprised when I saw that in the professional general photo, absolutely all the women in the room were without outerwear, but wearing hats. It really happened, I don't know why you're arguing so hard.
The mention of this story gave the series a gloomy picture, as for me.
Some of the scenes were disgusting to watch
The song of "The Mouse " M. Krug - 2000, and "Goodbye, sidekick" S. Nagovitsyn - 1999
The series takes place in 1996..
I don't know who might be interested in him, but honestly 🤔
I watched the first episode, started the second, and turned it off in the middle and forgot...
Of course, I understand that it shows the hard nineties and all that.
But it looks very uncomfortable.
Apparently this series is for fans of the word of the kid.
By the way, I think the word kid is incredible shit.
That's how many Russian TV series I've seen, the word of a kid is the shittiest of all.
I think that if he came to you, then you can safely look at outsourcing.
If the theme of the nineties is close to you and you want to see the real heavy nineties, then please watch with pleasure.
Personally, I've wasted my time...
there are plenty of Russian TV series that I'm willing to recommend instead.
"Juzzz" for example
You'll find the rest yourself)