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Duration: 59 min.
Released: 06.03.202506.03.2025 03:00
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s01e05
s01e01 - Серия 01
s01e02 - Серия 02
s01e03 - Серия 03
s01e04 - Серия 04
s01e05 - Серия 05
s01e06 - Серия 06
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Release date
27 March

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marlenad_13
marlenad_13
06 Mar 00:45 #
The episode is tragic, Natasha is very sorry. I listened to my mother, who has no brain at all.
Kostya is still shocking.
But at the same time, the episode makes you smile at the housewarming party.
But the prison governor's motives are not yet clear: either he is protecting his guys, or the idea of profit has crossed common sense.
Although Kostya made it so that the boss is to blame and excuses are unlikely to help, everything will be against him 🤔
An interesting series!
lexastaw
lexastaw
06 Mar 10:26 #
@marlenad_13: What's not clear here? The boss will go to the zone for this: far and for a long time + complete demotion and deprivation of all merits. What does "protecting your guys" have to do with profit?
What's really unclear here is how the tracker went alone to the crime scene, and even with the main suspect. A whole group of criminals, some of them armed... Sledak believed in himself, no other way.
crubik
crubik
08 Mar 18:09 #
@marlenad_13: and this is called life, when there may be consequences from your actions. There were quite a few such Natasha at that time.
Walensia888888
Walensia888888
10 Mar 22:50 #
@marlenad_13: One thing I didn't understand was why the mother was angry at Sasha if she told her daughter not to give birth, in fact, she hammered the last nail into Natasha's decision to turn around and be angry at herself.
marlenad_13
marlenad_13
10 Mar 23:00 #
@Walensia888888: yazhmat and I can see who to blame 😅
-TraumfraU-
-TraumfraU-
PRO
06 Mar 04:56 #
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11831
11831
06 Mar 06:17 #
What a two-faced creature Konstantin is
lady_kana
lady_kana
06 Mar 15:56 #
@11831: bipolar disorder
nostromo
nostromo
PRO
06 Mar 22:05 #
@11831: this has its own logic. You don't have to prove anything to your woman anymore, but the chance to weave new abusive networks by showing a girl from outside how caring and fair, caring, attentive you are is the beauty of such an archetype. That's how spiders lure you in.
Fightnerds
Fightnerds
06 Mar 06:57 #
I wonder why in the Kamchatka Territory squid is considered some kind of delicacy...
anelika
anelika
06 Mar 17:58 #
@Fightnerds: I don't remember squid at all in the 90s. It was either too expensive or difficult to find at all. I was already old enough when they started buying it and making salads out of it. No one knew how to cook it, and there were cases when it was boiled to a rubbery state.
id88985939
id88985939
07 Mar 08:44 #
There were definitely canned squid)
Primavera7
Primavera7
07 Mar 16:11 #
@anelika: no, in the early 90s they were freely sold in the fish department)
17GRom
17GRom
PRO
06 Mar 07:20 #
It's a pity they didn't show how the investigator talked to the prison governor before going to prison. It is not clear how he explained to him where and why he should go. Whether the investigator believed Kostya or not, it was a risk to travel with a suspect who knew what was going to happen to the treasury and might even kill him on the way.
lexastaw
lexastaw
06 Mar 11:21 #
@17GRom: the tracker probably didn't believe it, because it all sounds like fiction, but it was necessary to check the signal, because the story as a whole is very confusing.
But the fact that the only one who clung to this case, the one who started to untangle the tangle so well, suddenly behaved so stupidly, driving alone to the crime scene, to armed people, to their lair. Well, that's the stupidest thing to do.
On the other hand, if he had said that to someone, he would have been considered really sick, at least. That's why he seems to be acting alone. But he might pay.
Oleg was removed, the professor will have to be removed (it's not difficult), and the trace will have to be removed. Otherwise, everyone will sit down - 100%.
The only thing left is Kostya, who must somehow get out from behind bars. Whether he'll tell anyone else besides Sledak is a big question.
Let's see how they will get out of this situation now.
But considering that they constantly behave in such a way as to bury themselves out of the blue, they have little chance here. Moreover, Kostya, seeing that the accomplices were not behaving the way they had agreed and were dragging everyone to the bottom, began to work against them in order not to drown with them.
Paramelion
Paramelion
06 Mar 16:15 #
@lexastaw: trying to find an excuse for screenwriting stupidity)
They tell him that there is a conspiracy and the prison governor is in charge. It's clear that it's hard to believe, but it's necessary to check. But to come to the head of the prison, tell him what he is accused of, and the two of them go without weapons at the ready, to interrupt a possible crime. And what did he expect if the crime was confirmed? He will be alone among the organized criminal groups in a closed room.
lexastaw
lexastaw
07 Mar 08:27 #
@Paramelion: human stupidity in real life is often much dumber))
And such stupidity is a flaw in the script or deliberate, we'll find out later)
Because it's unclear what happened after Kostya told Sledak everything and before they entered the execution room.
Indeed, it is not shown how and what sledak and the boss talked about before the trip + they showed how sledak sends Kostya to jail. But it is unclear whether he did something at work, whether he said where he went, maybe he left some kind of note to insure himself or something else.
That is, a lot was missed. Whether this is a hole in the script or something will be clarified in the future, only time will tell.
And by the way, if you think about it, it's not for nothing that he put Kostya under guard. Because, in fact, he is a witness, and if anything happens, he can tell you where the trail is. That is, he hedged his bets. Maybe that's why I went so fearlessly. But he doesn't know the whole truth. And the truth is even more fantastic than what Kostya told him)))
Paramelion
Paramelion
07 Mar 14:06 #
@lexastaw: If it turns out that Sledak didn't believe Kostya, he went to the main one and told him what he was accused of, persuaded him to play along, like taking Sledak hostage, and find out the whole truth by bringing them all together. Then I won't believe in such a movie anymore) Not because Sledak isn't that brilliant. But because it has already been shown that the lover was ready to pull the trigger and only his cowardice did not allow him. And if there had been a conditional Kostya there, he would have put both the trail and the main one right away.
lexastaw
lexastaw
08 Mar 09:19 #
@Paramelion: Well, this is too much)
One could talk about this if sledak and the boss were good acquaintances, friends. But judging by the previous episodes, only Sledak and the prosecutor are familiar.
Well, in general, it says nothing about this development of events.

Sledak also said that the boss is already on the hook. That's where it's interesting: either he's playing off, or there's something we don't know, or the hook is Kostya in the camera, who will tell everything.

The funniest thing is to watch how, in fact, without a leader in the person of Bones, they buried themselves in an instant. Others don't have brains.
In the end, they killed Oleg anyway.
Although you've organized a lot of unnecessary problems for yourself. And they were basically caught red-handed. A fierce combo.
That's how they decided to cut down the dough without a Bone.

And Kostya is smart. Even in the room, when they were voting on Oleg's fate, I realized that they were burying themselves. And then it was only confirmed. And I quickly decided to protect myself as much as possible.

Considering that there are 3 episodes ahead, all this will not resolve quickly)
emergenevolve
emergenevolve
06 Mar 08:19 #
Nothing fills you with decay and hopelessness like a series of outsourcing in the morning)
Ov3rfl0w
Ov3rfl0w
06 Mar 09:26 #
@emergenevolve: Yeah, I watched it before work in the morning))
Primavera7
Primavera7
06 Mar 09:46 #
@emergenevolve: even worse, watch it at night)
lady_kana
lady_kana
06 Mar 15:30 #
@emergenevolve: I looked at it in the afternoon, it feels the same...
LuM_E
LuM_E
06 Mar 15:35 #
@emergenevolve: at any time of the day or night, it is perfectly smoldering and hopeless
Kosarina
Kosarina
07 Mar 21:39 #
@emergenevolve: I watch at work at night🫠
angel_kys
angel_kys
06 Mar 10:00 #
Fellow pirates, can you tell me where you're looking?
maria_krukova
maria_krukova
06 Mar 10:03 #
@angel_kys: from the cinema hall.I'm downloading everything on TV
dashka2303
dashka2303
06 Mar 21:52 #
@angel_kys: ВК 😂
Flotus
Flotus
06 Mar 23:48 #
@angel_kys: if you pay 200 rubles, don't be ashamed. Can I translate it for you?
@Flotus: давай
molokomyod
molokomyod
09 Mar 21:20 #
🤢 фу
-TraumfraU-
-TraumfraU-
PRO
09 Mar 21:22 #
@Flotus: you can't translate it. Why initially write such a thing?
id150899138
id150899138
07 Mar 21:29 #
@angel_kys: vo kino/lampa на ТВ
-TraumfraU-
-TraumfraU-
PRO
09 Mar 16:41 #
@angel_kys: Have you heard about torrents?
Александр0329
Александр0329
11 Mar 03:26 #
@-TraumfraU-: I don't know if Lord is a movie or a zone you can watch there)
akvilus
akvilus
PRO
06 Mar 11:14 #
What a terrible Konstantin, a horror
MargoZaitseva
MargoZaitseva
06 Mar 11:35 #
@akvilus: but beautiful )
youngchinaski
youngchinaski
06 Mar 11:38 #
Probably the best episode at the moment.
The whole housewarming party is superbly written and played.
username21
username21
07 Mar 00:48 #
@youngchinaski: one is sleeping drunk, the second is bald, the third has a broken nose, the fourth house is either half-drunk or half-drunk, dying, really great 🤣🤣🤣
youngchinaski
youngchinaski
09 Mar 11:15 #
@username21: and how does this contradict what I said?
username21
username21
09 Mar 17:04 #
@youngchinaski: no, everything was really said correctly, but the atmosphere there is not rosy))
Александр0329
Александр0329
11 Mar 03:29 #
@username21: half fool or half fool? (I think it's still some kind of half-ass)😁
username21
username21
11 Mar 19:26 #
@Александр0329: It's from a meme, where a boy caught a bear and says, "Fuck, you're half a fool.")
wolfork15
wolfork15
PRO
06 Mar 11:52 #
Thank you for representing the collie in the series and Gubin's song at the feast.
The host of the housewarming party was very photogenically lying in the bathroom in his shoes. Still, they wore shoes at home on the holiday. If he had been wearing socks/slippers, the effect would have been different. It's strange that he left Bones's pokes unanswered. After all, he got his wife drunk and raised his hand.
The doctor's wife magically materialized in the hallway when her help was needed.
lexastaw
lexastaw
07 Mar 08:38 #
@wolfork15: Well, they were all wearing shoes initially, when the first guest, Sasha, came, they told him that shoes did not need to be taken off.
Considering what kind of hostess the house is, I doubt she cleans it up much, that's all in shoes, not in socks on a dirty floor to walk)
Kostya is essentially the leader of their group (although they pretend to have a democracy). It's scary to beat the bosses)
Well, from life experience, I can say that those who beat their women at home are among the most harmless in 99% of cases in a men's company.
REq
REq
07 Mar 12:09 #
@wolfork15: Kostya is essentially an identification of local balance and equalization. Similarly, in the situation with his wife, who received a cradle, Kostya brought balance by giving the opposite cradle to the prosecutor. And he admitted that he was wrong, and further expressed his submission to Konstantin, offering him a drink, etc.
CottonMartlet
CottonMartlet
08 Mar 12:37 #
@wolfork15: And I was looking at how big their dumplings were, and I didn't see a collie. 🤣
d-romance
d-romance
08 Mar 13:56 #
@CottonMartlet: I also noticed the huge dumplings.
inoagent007
inoagent007
08 Mar 19:24 #
@d-romance: there are two types of people 😄
j_nedobraya
j_nedobraya
06 Mar 11:54 #
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RinaAb
RinaAb
06 Mar 12:04 #
I thought Kostya would take the Rum away, because at the housewarming party he clearly guessed that there was something between him and his wife. What he would do to his wife in return is generally scary to imagine. I feel sorry for Sledak, they obviously won't let him go alive.
The housewarming party was more like a wake, especially with a toast to Bones. "Let's remember those who are not here."
Natasha's mother keeps bombing me."I cooked potatoes and got a pig, and she told me about the rape."
vk860469
vk860469
06 Mar 12:12 #
@RinaAb: Yes, in this series, all the usual things like feasts, weddings, and family life look as creepy and gloomy as possible, in order to emphasize the severity and unbearability of the characters' lives.
lexastaw
lexastaw
07 Mar 08:57 #
@RinaAb: so he basically already understood when she came home with her boots + her daughter told him where she had been.
He didn't just shave her off, he kind of stripped her of her femininity.
If Andrey behaves straightforwardly, his wife has been drinking, he beats her.
Kostya behaves differently. He gave his wife money for new boots, she went and spent it on nonsense, then deceived him. What did he do? I asked her why she hadn't bought shoes. She replied that she didn't need it. And if it wasn't needed, he threw it away.
That's the same situation here. Kostya sees people well, so he probably already guessed that his wife was not particularly faithful (especially since her daughter could tell a lot, because she saw where she went, and saw that Roma was hanging around her every now and then, she even paid attention to this in previous episodes).
Here and there, he didn't beat her, for example, but cut her hair.
DolceVitalivna
DolceVitalivna
09 Mar 15:31 #
@RinaAb: The mothers there are more beautiful than each other😬
dshtv
dshtv
PRO
06 Mar 12:31 #
Yankovsky is such a red flag, but I'm a Dalton obviously 🫠
оливье_уксус
оливье_уксус
PRO
06 Mar 13:34 #
Someone wrote here that Kostya is a man with empathy, well, hmm..., I would say that he is a nit, rather. How he poured champagne for Katya, mmm, how attentive he was, and then handed her over and dumped Andrei — well, a handsome empath. There are no words about a shaved head at all…

Serial moms — one is more beautiful than the other: one is twisted, the second has special violence, but now everything will be fine. Yeah, fuck off right now.

Housewarming is the right company. There's also this situation with the Christmas tree toy... the degree of blyazdets is rising.

I'm rooting for sledak
a_delta
a_delta
06 Mar 16:39 #
@olive_uxus: well, after the conspiracy, Kostya began to closely monitor everyone, eavesdrop and tap on sore points on purpose
оливье_уксус
оливье_уксус
PRO
07 Mar 11:24 #
@a_delta: yes, he's been doing this for a long time, it just didn't catch his eye so much (to me)))
vk1617111
vk1617111
06 Mar 21:43 #
@olive_uxus: Kostya is a real psychopath) It was also clear from the first time he was killed
оливье_уксус
оливье_уксус
PRO
07 Mar 11:23 #
@vk1617111: under the last episode, there were people who don't think so)
Tikhonov91
Tikhonov91
PRO
06 Mar 13:38 #
series a*uy. the best one that came out. in general, the heat and tension do not subside.
the housewarming itself is just so cute, in such a company gathered..

The moment with the toy is just glass..breathing stops by itself..
And_Re
And_Re
06 Mar 13:42 #
@Tikhonov91: I compare it with the "dashing" Bykov, in terms of blackness. Well, heaven and earth are straight
Tikhonov91
Tikhonov91
PRO
06 Mar 13:45 #
@And_Re: In fact, the aftertaste itself is incomparable. I don't even remember it right away, which was just as emotional and tense.
unless "the highway" is from the same okko
lady_kana
lady_kana
06 Mar 15:50 #
@Tikhonov91: "Khrustalny" also made an impression at the time.
Tikhonov91
Tikhonov91
PRO
06 Mar 15:56 #
@lady_kana: a fact, I agree with that. It's actually considered one of the first series of this kind.
a_delta
a_delta
06 Mar 16:40 #
@And_Re: It's more like a comparison with Balabanov's latest works.
fb1020480
fb1020480
10 Mar 20:12 #
@lady_kana: they have the same screenwriter and director
nikatoten
nikatoten
06 Mar 13:52 #
where are the artifacts from the men who so supported Konstantin's values in the last episode, it became scary?
biatchtoksinjev
biatchtoksinjev
07 Mar 11:35 #
@nikatoten: it's strange that they haven't come running to write yet, what a narrow mindset we all have)
nikatoten
nikatoten
07 Mar 17:59 #
@biatchtoksinjev: sofa beds have already hung posters with Kostya on the walls, what a good boy he is, and he brought up his daughter correctly and showed his wife her place, never a psychopath, no.
biatchtoksinjev
biatchtoksinjev
08 Mar 11:52 #
@nikatoten: Oh, he's already a good family man, but we all don't see that the real evil is his wife 🙈
АРТЁМ141
АРТЁМ141
08 Mar 07:35 #
@nikatoten: I agree, he acted too harshly, what is your version of what he should have done?
nikatoten
nikatoten
08 Mar 16:53 #
@АРТЁМ141: if he hadn't been a psychopath, he would have supported his wife, she wouldn't have been shaking because she bought a book instead of boots, especially now that he started making real money, he would have gone with her to choose the most beautiful and warm ones, and the daughter, seeing the love of her father for her mother, would not have started to she is treated this way, as it is shown that Kostya goes in the family hierarchy, then the daughter, and their mother is a whipping girl, and she did not need this colleague, it is clear that she came to him out of desperation to share what kind of hell she lives in, and all he could think about was that how to take possession of her, and as we have already seen, she is a weak-willed and completely broken woman, she came to ask for protection.
BadPlayer
BadPlayer
09 Mar 00:45 #
@nikatoten: He wouldn't be a psychopath if he didn't kill people. You're talking from a vacuum, even though we've been shown since episode 1 that it doesn't cost him anything to put a bullet in the back of a man's head. But they didn't show us how he came to this, and this is important. We have a group of people who have already broken their lives, and it's not right to empathize with one while reproaching the other, at least because they all deserve each other, as well as their girlfriends/wives. All the characters presented are psychopaths, manipulators and abusers in their own way. It's just that everyone has a different motive.
nikatoten
nikatoten
09 Mar 15:27 #
@BadPlayer: and a bullet in the back of the head, too, but it's one thing to work, and another to shoot at people outside of it, psychopaths don't have many motives, but equating suffering women with these disgusting men is without me.
DolceVitalivna
DolceVitalivna
10 Mar 10:45 #
@nikatoten: He really just took advantage of his mother's grief-stricken stallion🤷♀️ he also stuffed these boots in as payment🤦🏽♀️ and ran away from the housewarming party, if he really had feelings, he would not have left her after what he saw((
BadPlayer
BadPlayer
11 Mar 18:27 #
@nikatoten: you're probably far from reality. When the war ends, for example, Afghanistan, the increase in criminal activity associated with returning hard workers from the war increases dramatically. There is little difference here. People are rarely born psychopaths.
nikatoten
nikatoten
11 Mar 19:30 #
@BadPlayer: I am far from the post-Soviet reality, but I would not confuse a psychopath with a soldier with PTSD.
Don_Padlo
Don_Padlo
06 Mar 14:09 #
And Kostya turned out to be a devil! }=Kommersant
loremipsum
loremipsum
PRO
06 Mar 19:02 #
@Don_Padlo: Did anyone else have doubts? Considering that he has a downtrodden wife and other "alarm bells"?
lady_kana
lady_kana
06 Mar 15:31 #
Natasha 😢
an_khv
an_khv
06 Mar 15:41 #
I didn't understand the actions of the prison governor, he's burying himself in tin...
and Kostya? La rat, of course...
Paramelion
Paramelion
06 Mar 16:22 #
@an_khv: the most likely explanation is that he decides to fit into the share. And he motivates this for himself by the fact that he is already suspected of organizing this and it will be difficult to prove otherwise, so if you can't win, take the lead. But it certainly looks as strange as possible.
an_khv
an_khv
07 Mar 01:32 #
@Paramelion: Yes, but what about the investigator? Will they kill him? That's the same thing too
lexastaw
lexastaw
07 Mar 09:17 #
@an_khv: I should have looked at it a little more carefully.)
In general, they showed that the boss should be present at the treasury, but he had guests, a barbecue, and he said they could handle it without him. And it seems that he generally gave up on all other executions.
And in the execution protocol, there is also his signature as a participant.
Accordingly, no matter how much he said that he was innocent and did not know anything, it would not have helped him.
Plus, the whole criminal organization operated in the prison, which he heads.
And money, as many write, was probably the last thing he thought about (although I doubt he thought at all).
After all, this is the end of his career - complete demotion, deprivation of all merits and benefits, and most importantly - a huge prison term (he is unlikely to survive it).

So the reaction is quite understandable, especially since it's the 90s, and Sledak is alone and unarmed.
BadPlayer
BadPlayer
09 Mar 00:51 #
@lexastaw: support. Plus, we need to take into account that this is the year 96, not 2025, there are no cameras in prison, and it still needs to be proved that Sledak came to prison at all. They even showed us Sledak's partner, who doesn't care who killed Kotov and that rapist, he tied them up and the case would have been closed long ago. And again, this is 96, not in Moscow or the Moscow region, but somewhere in Kamchatka. Even now, life there is not sugar, not like 30 years ago. People watch the series as if the events are unfolding in 2016 or 2024.
lady_kana
lady_kana
06 Mar 15:48 #
Oleg!!! What the hell was the point of getting involved in all this retaliation ((

Nina , Kostya will strip naked next time and say go for a walk in the cold and don 't come back until you get enough exercise .
Kostya, I'm afraid to even imagine what's in his head, he's planning some kind of multi-step...
the prosecutor, what kind of urgency is it to beat his wife...The guests at the table 🤦 wait until they disperse ?
If Kostya wanted to slap the Prosecutor, he did... but what about Roma ? I don 't have the guts 🤷 ( I mean to stand up for Nina )
A new apartment ( albeit rented), a feast, a polaroid, a car...No, we're not making money.
I thought Sasha would be drunk, but no, the prosecutor's wife came to replace him.

In general, the series was a success, there is something to reflect on...
LuM_E
LuM_E
06 Mar 15:54 #
Kostya will teach everyone a lesson who disobeyed. So far, his most talented student is his daughter.

How he clearly sets himself and his will - everyone takes it for granted. That's the scariest thing about this series - everyone accepts the normality of any violence.
Paramelion
Paramelion
06 Mar 15:56 #
The series can be named in the right place, at the right time.
It's been a long time since I've seen so many successful circumstances for all the characters in one episode. Everything was so perfect for each of the characters, if you single it out, you can retell the whole series.

The girl ran to apologize to her mother, but in the end decided to keep an eye on her.
The dude doesn't want to kill and was ready to give them just money. But they will take the risk and drag him to the execution, well, you already know what happened there.
And this is only the smallest part.

It's already not convenient to write about the rest of the pianos, they're so ridiculous, like eavesdropping at the beginning of the series.
I'll get the cons for sure. But it was too much already.
g1365447
g1365447
08 Mar 01:37 #
@Paramelion: Forcing him to kill is like complicity, which means protecting yourself and letting him go later.
Paramelion
Paramelion
08 Mar 02:11 #
@g1365447: "Forcing him to kill " is the same crime against him. Any court would have acquitted him later.
BadPlayer
BadPlayer
09 Mar 00:54 #
@Paramelion: At 96? No one would even bother to figure it out. And what kind of court? The judge and the cops are in the same boat, one less convict, one more, but they have awards and titles and they want to eat too.
a_delta
a_delta
06 Mar 17:07 #
Every episode, there was a knock from the bottom...
_AR_
_AR_
06 Mar 17:28 #
I'm just thrilled 🎉
anelika
anelika
06 Mar 18:07 #
Before this episode, I only felt such horror from the Cornflower in the Yellow Eye of the Tiger, but Kostya clearly surpassed him. And there was hope for a good ending for at least someone, but here there is complete hopelessness.
-TraumfraU-
-TraumfraU-
PRO
06 Mar 18:17 #
Squid salad should be eaten slowly. As they say, if you drive more quietly, you will continue.
skazo4huk
skazo4huk
06 Mar 19:05 #
Well, Kostya opened up.
There are a lot of events in the series
. The women's share here is nothing but trouble
, and now they have to wait a week for the series. It's not fair!
obsessedwithyou
obsessedwithyou
06 Mar 20:29 #
It was tough with the Christmas tree toy
id159635624
id159635624
06 Mar 21:27 #
Costa's daughter is such a snitch…
lady_kana
lady_kana
06 Mar 21:55 #
@id159635624: daddy's joy ) is waiting for his attention/ praise
sersex
sersex
06 Mar 23:14 #
@id159635624: Well, yes, a child should keep the secrets of his parents. exactly how she told her father remained behind the scenes. Obviously, Kostya is perceptive, and it was enough for him to ask a couple of questions to find out about everything himself. two fucked up parents, but the focus is on an 8-9 year old child who turns out to be a snitch.
lexastaw
lexastaw
07 Mar 09:45 #
@sersex: the daughter snitched that the mother spent money on nonsense, instead of the necessary thing. The daughter said that her mother goes to other men's men.
What a bad daughter. He just wants Dad's attention.
We can clearly see the values of some girls. They don't even hide them.
lady_kana
lady_kana
07 Mar 10:30 #
@lexastaw: No, you misunderstood me, the girl is always with her mom, and dad is at work / traveling / killing people... it is clear that she wants him to spend time with her / pay more attention to her, and naturally she will be in heaven with happiness if he praises her.
lady_kana
lady_kana
07 Mar 10:32 #
@sersex: He could just ask her, Masha, how did you spend your day? Why are you home alone? " well, it's not difficult to think further.
lexastaw
lexastaw
07 Mar 23:03 #
@lady_kana: I would not say that he is very busy, and he spends time with her, in general, even in the series it is shown. There's even a juxtaposition, Kostya and the doctor. One is like a family man, the other cannot go for bread without incident, and he calmly left the child alone and almost paid the price.
In the series, it is not clear that the girl was deprived of her father's attention, just as it was never shown that he praised her for telling him something.

There is one point. When they are playing chess, Kostya asks:
- How is literature?
- Not really, I don't like it, I'm bored on it.
"It's a good thing you're not like your mom," Dad smiles.
And at that moment, she tells me about books and shoes.
That is, the child sees the mother's actions, understands that she is doing the wrong thing and does not want to be like a mother. Accordingly, she does not hide or deceive.
And there is nothing to blame the child for.
The child doesn't gossip out of the blue about small things, something like: my mother spent the whole day lying on the bed, reading a book, and did nothing.
The child only talked about really serious offenses.
And if you look at how the girl behaves when her mother arrives from a walk, it feels like not only Kostya understood where she was, but also the girl.

So it's rather not a search for praise from a father, but an unwillingness to be like a mother and not be associated with her.
lady_kana
lady_kana
07 Mar 23:08 #
@lexastaw: The girl clearly realized that her mother was going to be punished.
PiRanha
PiRanha
PRO
08 Mar 10:35 #
@lexastaw: and note that none of the local madams noticed that Kostya was a family man. They only see that the wife is downtrodden and the daughter is a snitch.. What is the conclusion? That's right, Kostya is a terrible abuser, he also kills people over there...))))
оливье_уксус
оливье_уксус
PRO
08 Mar 12:21 #
@lexastaw: so the daughter doesn't want to be associated with her mother, including because Konstantin, aka dad, aka authority, omits derogatory comments in her direction like this: "it's good that you're not like your mother," like mom = something second-rate, don't be like her.

and naturally, the daughter wants to be closer to her father, unknowingly choosing a stronger adult figure (especially since the mother generally looks physically weak), and wants to earn his respect, so she takes his side — "knocks" on her mother — and receives praise from her father -encouragement for her actions, again in the form of the same comments, That you're not like your mother, which means you're good, which means I love you.

and there's really nothing to blame the child for, but Kostya has something to blame.

and the fact that his wife cheated on him doesn't make him any less of an asshole towards her.
lexastaw
lexastaw
08 Mar 14:02 #
@olivie_uxus: normally you turned it over and thought it out)
Nina philologist, as far as I understand (or something like that), is back in the books.
When he said it was a good thing you weren't into Mom, it was about the literature. And the point here was that Kostya also apparently does not like all this literature, because of which they do not really find a common language with their wife, they simply do not have common topics for conversation. And when he says that, the meaning is that the child is interested in other things, respectively, it is easier for them to build communication.
You don't dig up the context or invent it.

And for a girl, because she swallows wine, this phrase works like a trigger. But this does not mean that Kostya somehow humiliates someone, calls them second-rate, this is your wild imagination. Just like "you're good, so I love you".

You miss too much, especially the little things that reveal the characters. All your characters are one-sided. And in the series-they are contradictory.

Take Kostya. He is a family man - in his spare time at home, does not drink, communicates with the child, takes care of the family, in a dialogue with Sasha in the car shows his worldview (it was he who explained that in fact Natasha is not to blame - you need to get married, the father is not the one who gave birth, but the one who raised). It's a steal.
But he doesn't give his wife a descent. He doesn't beat her, but he finds other ways to train her for her misdeeds.

Outsourcing for him is an ideological thing, not a profit. He talks to every criminal for a reason. It wasn't for nothing that he set the rules and was against Oleg. He didn't just call the professor innocent. He has a lot of money, but unlike the rest - he's alone их he didn't shine anywhere, etc.

At the same time, it is decisive, harsh and cruel. It is quickly oriented, if there is a danger, it immediately eliminates it, etc.

And so on for all the characters. All of them are ambiguous and contradictory. And you, like many people, look at and draw conclusions very one-sidedly. This is good, this is bad. There are neither good nor bad people here. They are different in different situations.
оливье_уксус
оливье_уксус
PRO
08 Mar 15:18 #
@lexastaw: No one talks about the goodness and badness of other characters, in this situation it was Bones's family that was affected.

Oh, well, he doesn't hit me, and thanks for that, but emotional abuse is just bullshit. She'll get over it, she's a fool.

a family man is a person who possesses the necessary qualities for family life, and Kostya definitely possesses them if he treats his spouse with disrespect? (again, I'm not touching on her cheating).

to teach you a lesson for your misdeeds? is this exactly the quality of a family man? not to talk and ask: why did you do that, but to punish?

+ he could have said in other words that he didn't like literature without involving Nina, and then he deliberately did it. and this is not my wild fantasy, but a thoughtful persuasion of the child to his side, because the man is clearly delving into psychology and manipulating his daughter.

The fact that Kostya throws out jokes like "victims of violence are not to blame, etc." in front of unfamiliar people, and then throws out his wife's boots and shaves her head, does not mean that he is contradictory, but that he is a psychopath hiding behind the mask of a kind, sympathetic person in order to ingratiate himself and get some kind- that's the benefit. and he talks to criminals not because he is so humane and he is interested in their personality, but to record their confessions and put pressure on the relatives of real victims.

I agree with the fact that he did not propose outsourcing for money, he seemed to say it in plain text. For me, for him, human lives are a toy and nothing more.

ambiguous — these are the Doctor's crimes. ambiguously, this is euthanasia.
Is Kostya ambiguous? Well, for me, he's definitely an asshole.
nikatoten
nikatoten
08 Mar 16:59 #
@olive_uxus: it's useless to butt heads with incels in this branch, they should have lived with Bones themselves, I would have looked at them.
оливье_уксус
оливье_уксус
PRO
08 Mar 17:08 #
@nikatoten: People see empathy where it doesn't exist, but they can't show it themselves, unfortunately.
lexastaw
lexastaw
08 Mar 23:45 #
@olive_uxus: I take it you like to think for others? In this case, there is nothing to talk about with you.
You continue to demonstrate your narrow-mindedness.
Emotional abuse is bullshit, where did I talk about it? This is your statement, don't project it on me.

"no one talks about the goodness and badness of other characters"
With this comment above: "You're good, so I love you." Notice that Kostya didn't say that, it's your words, it's you who are labeling.

"Is Kostya ambiguous? Well, for me, he's definitely an asshole."
Well, actually, you're signing up for your own narrow mindset. Here, as they say, my powers are everything.
The fact that Kostya is an asshole, cruel and cold-blooded is understandable to the child, but this does not make him an unambiguous character.
lexastaw
lexastaw
09 Mar 00:06 #
@nikatoten: @nikatoten: It's useless to say something to people like you who show a pattern-tunnel mindset.
After all, you are not smart enough to understand that if they talk about something, it does not mean that they support or share it. They only point out to you what you don't want to see.
The commercialism and hypocrisy of people like you are amazing. You see obscene behavior from some and don't notice the same from others.
After all, as I understand it, it is inappropriate to spend family money and cheating on your men is the norm for you. That's why you don't even pay attention to it. But the overwhelming man-hating just bursts you from the inside out.
I'll tell you a big secret, but in a normal society, Nina and Kostya's behavior is immoral, wrong, and unacceptable.
lexastaw
lexastaw
09 Mar 00:14 #
@olive_uxus: well, you probably have problems with empathy, since you are not able to see it in the actions of others. That's really something to regret.
I'll tell you a secret, too: violent people don't necessarily lack empathy. Can you imagine? Although in your unambiguous world, it's probably hard to imagine.
Come on, now tell me that the words I said indicate that I justify bad people or something like that.)) Or do you come up with something more original?

оливье_уксус
оливье_уксус
PRO
09 Mar 00:47 #
@lexastaw: If I'm labeling everyone, then what are you doing, constantly pointing out narrow-mindedness and narrow thinking to those who disagree with you?

maybe instead of manipulating, you'll try to pick stronger arguments (not with me, because I'm not a good conversationalist, it turns out, with someone else), so look, and your eyes will open to something.

With that, I say goodbye.
nikatoten
nikatoten
09 Mar 15:30 #
@lexastaw: How quickly you turned to personal insults speaks volumes about your problems and doesn't even require me to prove it, Adios.
will-o-the-wisp
will-o-the-wisp
10 Mar 22:15 #
@sersex: Yes, the daughter is a snitch and a rat. A normal child should have a sense of solidarity and empathy for a mother who is obviously being bullied by her father.
-TraumfraU-
-TraumfraU-
PRO
10 Mar 22:24 #
@will-o-the-wisp: I totally agree, daughter of scum.
id269224568
id269224568
12 Mar 03:35 #
@olivi_uxus: If Outsourcing is not for the sake of money for Kostya, why the line with the search for rich relatives of victims and the murder of a Cat who paid less? It was Kostya's idea to look for richer people. To put mutually exclusive motives into one character was something the scriptwriters had to try very hard)
id269224568
id269224568
12 Mar 03:39 #
@lexastaw: What's wrong with Kostya Kotov, as an avenger? Why did he go looking for richer relatives? What kind of ideology worked here? What are the rules?
sersex
sersex
12 Mar 04:07 #
@will-o-the-wisp: of course, of course, an 8-year-old child is a snitch and a rat, he is obliged to understand the complicated codependent relationships of his parents and take the side of his mother, at this age he bears full responsibility for who he is, and forms his behavior patterns regardless of what happens at home. your opinion clearly shows your tendency to shift the burden of responsibility onto the child; I sympathize with your children, if you have them.
оливье_уксус
оливье_уксус
PRO
12 Mar 12:16 #
@id269224568: most likely, he understands that no one will do this for "pennies", and the more money there is, the less likely it is that one of the five will win, especially since appetites are growing — the prosecutor as an example;

In this case, they are not mutually exclusive, but show how sophisticated and manipulative he is.
id159635624
id159635624
13 Mar 20:11 #
@lexastaw: it's fucked up if buying a book instead of boots is a "really serious offense" for you
PiRanha
PiRanha
PRO
07 Mar 23:52 #
@id159635624: Live your life, tell me later! Calling a daughter a snitch…
Yulkafomkina
Yulkafomkina
06 Mar 21:59 #
And the fact that Nina, the poor lamb, cheated on her husband, I see, does not bother anyone. 🤪
sersex
sersex
06 Mar 23:24 #
@Yulkafomkina: in addition, in my opinion, it is clear that she intentionally did not hide the boots that were given to her, and wanted her husband to find out. As far as I'm concerned, she's obviously not healthy either, to put it mildly.
avokadoview
avokadoview
PRO
09 Mar 11:18 #
@sersex: kick-ass you're wrong
lexastaw
lexastaw
07 Mar 09:38 #
@Yulkafomkina: the commentator above is confused that the daughter is a snitch))
The family is strange, it's amazing that the child is still adequate and good.
And Nina is also far from unambiguous. On the one hand, she is really shown as such a highly cultured poor lamb.
On the other hand, she reads a book with erotic content, and moreover, shares it with another man and discusses it with him. This is extremely strange. Although you are right to note that for many it seems to be normal.
And loyalty nowadays is an empty word for many. They're more worried about their daughter snitching.
will-o-the-wisp
will-o-the-wisp
10 Mar 22:20 #
@lexastaw: loyalty is not an empty word, but for its absence in a civilized society, no one has the right to punish and mock anyone. You've been cheated on - break up with this person. Who are you to try to teach him a lesson, punish him?
PiRanha
PiRanha
PRO
07 Mar 23:53 #
@Yulkafomkina: Well, what about it? The local shala** will not condemn! It is necessary to understand and forgive, she changed something because Kostya is a mu** k and an abuser))))
avokadoview
avokadoview
PRO
09 Mar 11:16 #
@Yulkafomkina: She got fucked, actually
id21405170
id21405170
06 Mar 22:05 #
So far, in my opinion, the best episode!!! The gang of course gathered for a housewarming party)))
reflexenia
reflexenia
PRO
06 Mar 22:19 #
On the one hand, this is the best series out of five, because the density of what is happening is frenzied. On the other hand, it's also a minus, because it feels like a skating rink has rolled through the brain. But it's written and played very well, so I'd rather take it as a plus. The housewarming party was epic, I love such dark humor.
I'm a little worried about the storylines: will everything be closed for the remaining three episodes? There are a lot of questions. The main one is Kostya. I still hope that we will learn more about his past. His relationship with his wife is as far from normal as possible, but since he has his own specific ideas about justice, he feels that she is deeply to blame for something (I am inclined to believe that his daughter is not his, given how freely he talked about this topic), and her whole life with He is an endless punishment. It doesn't excuse him, but it explains him.
For me, the prosecutor is wearing the yellow T-shirt of the leader in disgust. All his life he felt like a jerk, he was on equal terms with his wife, plus or minus, and now he is happy to beat her up, more and more cruelly each time, because now he is the breadwinner, providing her with a settled life. It was nice when he got it from Kostya. Rybkin moved to second place in this list, because in this episode at least he did not agree with the prosecutor when he wanted to exclude Kostya from the scheme. Apparently, that's why Kostya conscientiously bulked him up so that he wouldn't be at the execution of the sentence, but he was strong, overslept and came.
The California stallion with his love is a separate song. After listening to the story of the supposedly beloved woman about such a husband, I found nothing better than to climb on top of her and frame her even more. And then you can be outraged at the sight of a shaved head and build up a hero's aura around yourself. He's a manipulator.
The cutest of the five is still Petya. I hope my son didn't get infected, although the predictable move with a glass toy is too much, as far as I'm concerned, so that everything is completely bad.
The actor playing the warden is cool. I just watched "Union of Salvation" recently, where he played Konstantin Pavlovich very well, and I'm happy here too.
a_delta
a_delta
07 Mar 17:35 #
@reflexenia: Is Petya cute?! hmm
reflexenia
reflexenia
PRO
07 Mar 20:29 #
@a_delta: of the five performers, he is the least evil. I'm still not even sure that he infected his wife, because his HIV-negative status raises questions, and as a doctor she could have been infected at work, it's not for nothing that doctors are constantly being checked, especially dentists who work in the mouth (and this is the dirtiest place in the body). Yes, he was covered in shit, but who in his place would mind? Few people. And he did not spend the money he earned by outsourcing on empty luxuries, but set aside to give it to his wife (plus he handed a lot of money to his mistress). His sex addiction is not a choice, but a diagnosis that I cannot deny.
ellymur
ellymur
08 Mar 20:56 #
@reflexenia: then the question is how did that Petya's lover get infected) if not from Petya. It's a strange coincidence.
reflexenia
reflexenia
PRO
08 Mar 23:55 #
@ellymur: from anyone. For example, from her husband, a sailor, who is unlikely to remain faithful to her on voyages. She also said at Julia's appointment that she had had characteristic periodontitis for at least six months, that is, it appeared before their relationship with Petya began. Therefore, it is quite possible that Petya has nothing to do with either case.
lzhezhaba
lzhezhaba
06 Mar 22:22 #
Women seem to be humiliated in every family in the 90s)
Of course, he passed them all well)
BadPlayer
BadPlayer
09 Mar 01:06 #
@lzhezhaba: кого? Сдал это пришел в полицию и написал бумагу при свидетелях с подписями. А так по пьяне приснилось. В 90х конечно хватило бы и просто слов, но тут конкретно он не сдал всех, а подстраховался. Я думаю он прекрасно понимает что начальнику тюрьмы светит если следак их накроет. Даже если следак их накроет без начальника, его все равно не помилуют. А тут он перекинул проблемы следака: следак же не тупой, видит прокурора при бабле, трещашую пассию и кентов палачей, поди 2+2 сложить сможет. Короче это страховка. Из обезъянника его все равно отпустят через денек другой, что с него взять?
lavazan
lavazan
06 Mar 22:58 #
My daughter plays super
The rest of the decay is of course
sraka21
sraka21
06 Mar 23:09 #
Salad with squid
raul777g
raul777g
06 Mar 23:13 #
The whole episode is just a tear, scene after scene is such an impenetrable pain! The creators are very cool that they were able to convey everything so well.
VikDz
VikDz
06 Mar 23:15 #
I don't envy those who are waiting for the release of all episodes. How can you download it if you watch all the episodes at once? I feel especially sorry for the women in this series. It was specially chosen so that everyone suffers from their men. It's hard to imagine how it could end. I hope there will be a happy ending for someone.
Валерия_Лысенко
Валерия_Лысенко
06 Mar 23:33 #
Bravo, Konstantin!!! One of the best episodes. How he quickly and competently figured out how to get out of the situation 👍🏼
zlobny_korzhik
zlobny_korzhik
PRO
06 Mar 23:41 #
I'm thrilled with the series.
I don't know why many people don't like Yankovsky's performance, but the hair-cutting scene was naturally creepy to me. such a quiet, smiling maniac. brr
of all the characters, only Natasha and Julia are sympathetic, two broken destinies for nothing, Nina feels humanly sorry.
the rest are moral freaks, as a selection.
username21
username21
07 Mar 16:59 #
@zlobny_korzhik: Yankovsky in the series is a sign of what to watch)
vk421467
vk421467
07 Mar 00:00 #
If your housewarming party doesn't look like this, don't even try to invite me.
lady_kana
lady_kana
07 Mar 08:44 #
@vk421467: Such a housewarming party would be hard to beat .
username21
username21
07 Mar 00:52 #
Not knowing grief, grief, grief
The sea is lapping at the edge of the magnolias
K1R1va
K1R1va
PRO
07 Mar 19:04 #
The dark madness of the 90s hinterland. If you write down what is happening in this series on paper, you will get some kind of nonsense, no? These are women and children who pay attention to the heroine's shoes and make caustic comments. Is this a manifestation of some kind of Lovecraftian madness among the residents of the town? And sad and funny
-TraumfraU-
-TraumfraU-
PRO
07 Mar 19:29 #
@K1R1va: it's kind of to enhance the dramatic effect, but in real life, no one in the world would care at all.
K1R1va
K1R1va
PRO
07 Mar 20:52 #
@-TraumfraU-: It looks so cheap. Not in the sense that, as a reviewer, I want to get to the bottom of things like "it doesn't happen that way," but rather it looks so ridiculous and detached that it causes no drama.the effect, but the laughter.
-TraumfraU-
-TraumfraU-
PRO
07 Mar 21:15 #
@K1R1va: I'm not arguing.
zzz_203
zzz_203
PRO
07 Mar 20:43 #
How well Yankovsky plays back... His character takes over...
and all the women in this series are insanely unhappy...
phantasma
phantasma
PRO
07 Mar 23:08 #
so Kostya decided to outplay everyone.. Well, I really hope he didn't succeed! And the warden will cover his guys, because I want Roma to get Nina out of this horror.

Poor girl Natasha! Like a mother, like a man, you wouldn't wish that on an enemy. I hope she finds the strength to move on.

the series, of course, keeps you in suspense and brings out emotions)) There is something to discuss and reflect on after each episode.

I wonder how it will end in the end.
fillana
fillana
07 Mar 23:26 #
Who else noticed that Natasha's mom was so shocked that she even took off her rich fur hat in the hospital. Before that, she didn't seem to part with it, an interesting caricature detail that caught the eye in all previous episodes
PiRanha
PiRanha
PRO
07 Mar 23:48 #
Razumovskaya's acting is so pathetic.. Khrustalny, the Highway, is now Outsourcing..
g1365447
g1365447
08 Mar 01:46 #
@PiRanha: Kapets, I didn't even realize it was her! I watched the track with her recently.
Mankun1anec
Mankun1anec
10 Mar 10:28 #
@PiRanha: What do you think of the Major? Razumovskaya is not suitable for the role of a mother, she is too young. I should have found an older actress at the casting.
АРТЁМ141
АРТЁМ141
08 Mar 07:59 #
Natasha's mother is a very strange person, she herself said that she did not need Natasha with the child, because of this, Natasha went to have an abortion, as a result of which she ended up in the hospital and then blamed Sasha for all this.
Kostya can be understood in part, he gave his wife money for boots, and she bought books, okay, she bought and bought, but she didn't have to say that she didn't need boots, and Kostya was angry (she clearly knows Kostya's character that it's better not to anger him like that) then in winter she walks in sandals, she came to her daughter's section ( here it is clear that the daughter does not want to go to these dances) but in order not to upset her mother, she goes (we recall the episode where she played chess with her dad). The fact that Kostya cut his wife's hair is shocking, of course, he didn't even find out where she likes it.;
Peter's strange wife (doctor) just left him and that was it when she saw that some man was tied up in the apartment, and anyway it was stupid to leave him unattended.
Kostya, you've got some kind of multi-step plan.. I protected myself for this evening by the fact that the police were there, and Sasha also thought that he would sleep, but he woke up and arrived
Look at the description of the episodes, there are suggestions about the boss
-TraumfraU-
-TraumfraU-
PRO
08 Mar 09:43 #
@АРТЁМ141: you somehow miss the small moment that Natasha slept with his colleague. He just shaved her head, and the other one could have beaten her up altogether. I'm not justifying anyone's actions, it's just that Natasha is good too, damn it.
АРТЁМ141
АРТЁМ141
08 Mar 10:31 #
@-TraumfraU-: You're confusing Natasha with Nina. Question: how did Kostya realize that she had cheated on him? The fact that with Roma it was only on Andrey's kv that one could guess
-TraumfraU-
-TraumfraU-
PRO
08 Mar 11:59 #
@АРТЁМ141: he sniffed her) I really sniffed it. I think it was done for a reason)
DolceVitalivna
DolceVitalivna
10 Mar 11:10 #
@АРТЁМ141: Well, the daughter ran after her, just told her father the address, and before that she probably also told about her uncle from dad's job when they crossed paths on the street.
driveshaft
driveshaft
PRO
08 Mar 20:20 #
@АРТЁМ141: Yes, all the characters here are strange, and strange is not the right word. This is an excessively hypertrophied blackhead.
will-o-the-wisp
will-o-the-wisp
10 Mar 22:24 #
@АРТЁМ141: "Kostya can be understood, I bought books, not boots," "I could have said something," are you serious? Yes, you are one big red flag.
flushkin
flushkin
08 Mar 11:32 #
There would be two psychotherapists for each character, and it's not a fact that it will help. Total blackness and hopelessness, where the mental Russian poverty of modernity is hidden behind the scenery of the 90s.
-TraumfraU-
-TraumfraU-
PRO
08 Mar 12:00 #
@flushkin: xs, where you have mental poverty there, I don't even have that close in my environment. I didn't even have that in the 90s. My condolences.
flushkin
flushkin
08 Mar 12:48 #
@-TraumfraU-: Yes, we all want this not to happen, and we surround ourselves with pleasant, empathetic people. The series is not based on real events, everything bad is concentrated in it at once. But I can imagine every single manifestation of such behavior among my friends, and I even came across something.

Well, when I open the news, I realize that I'm not the only one. Or do you think it's all made up, and there's no domestic violence, no abortions, no murders, and no bribes in Russia?
-TraumfraU-
-TraumfraU-
PRO
08 Mar 15:47 #
@flushkin: there is such a thing everywhere, what exactly does Russia have to do with it? And I don't surround myself with someone who is, that is.
flushkin
flushkin
08 Mar 15:57 #
@-TraumfraU-: They're fighting it somewhere, but not very well in Russia. Torture of prisoners, domestic violence, corruption among officials — there are many episodes proven by journalists, but without punishment of the perpetrators. Of course, this is my subjective opinion. If you are sure that everything is OK, it's the same everywhere, and the location of this series can be moved to conditional Japan or France... I'm not ready to agree with you.
-TraumfraU-
-TraumfraU-
PRO
08 Mar 16:16 #
@flushkin: Oh, come on...
nikatoten
nikatoten
08 Mar 17:03 #
@-TraumfraU-: so you live on the principle of my hut on the edge, I do not know such, very significant for the 90s by the way.
-TraumfraU-
-TraumfraU-
PRO
08 Mar 17:52 #
@nikatoten: you can see it better))
-TraumfraU-
-TraumfraU-
PRO
08 Mar 20:03 #
@flushkin: I've removed my cons from your comments. This is your opinion, everything is ok.
driveshaft
driveshaft
PRO
08 Mar 20:17 #
The series is a visual demonstration of kringe. It's just one bullshit thing after another. Only one topic has subsided, it is immediately warmed up by some kind of continuation. It's strange that the bandits haven't been introduced into the plot yet.

And the dumbest thing is that in five episodes, only one (!) execution was carried out directly by outsourcing.
-TraumfraU-
-TraumfraU-
PRO
08 Mar 21:09 #
@driveshaft: I wonder why every episode is so much anticipated? Because it's an interesting series. Sorry for the tautology.
driveshaft
driveshaft
PRO
09 Mar 07:17 #
@-TraumfraU-: Because there are inexperienced viewers who come across such a weak script. A modern soap opera.
-TraumfraU-
-TraumfraU-
PRO
09 Mar 07:49 #
@driveshaft: Well, xs, I'm a pretty sophisticated viewer, I've watched hundreds of TV shows. For example, my favorite TV series is Oz. Have you watched it? Oh, I looked at your profile, they couldn't get past the first episode. Everything is clear with you)
BadPlayer
BadPlayer
09 Mar 11:37 #
@driveshaft: Everyone has a genius - you and all the other inexperienced viewers. But there's a problem: everyone has an opinion, and that's exactly what you have, just like a hole in the ass. Kringe, it's just you.
IL-2
IL-2
08 Mar 22:24 #
Before watching an episode, I always know that there will be many disasters and tragic events.… And I look when I'm ready for it mentally, that is, I'm ready to swallow a portion of joylessness! But the series is interesting, of course, you can't take it away. Of course, there are a lot of inconsistencies and incomprehensible solutions, but... that's how the artist sees it)
Mankun1anec
Mankun1anec
10 Mar 10:26 #
Ох, уж это новоселье, герои ещё больше раскрылись. Костя издевается над своей женой, как можно сейчас говорить абьюзер, зато втащил прокурору по лицу за его жену и избиения. А как он налил шампусика жене Андрея и потом же подставил, сказав ещё налить. Янковский, конечно, топище, отыгрывает подлеца на все 100%.
vk775121
vk775121
10 Mar 17:23 #
To be honest, it's already encouraging in some places that the scriptwriters use every opportunity to make the situation worse)
If a child takes a toy, there will definitely be a cut along with the contagious mother.
And so with every situation, you're already sitting and wondering if the scriptwriters have enough willpower not to make things worse in this or that situation. 😅
Walensia888888
Walensia888888
11 Mar 00:12 #
the Vostok group should get a second wave of popularity after the TV series
"Mirages" and "See you later" super hits of the 90s among the people, they didn't seem to be broadcast on TV at that time,ala as a gentle May
Special thanks for them, I got a buzz and nostalgia of childhood.
Drvkn
Drvkn
11 Mar 22:37 #
The series never ceases to amaze
Nina feels very sorry, Stockholm syndrome is observed.
Kostya is a demon in the flesh, he knows who to put pressure on, he's playing everything off... I wonder what will happen next
id269224568
id269224568
12 Mar 03:23 #
I started watching the series after comments about Yankovsky's amazing performance, saying that his character is almost a reflective character about good and evil from Dostoevsky's books. I broke down on the very first episode where he kills a Cat without any morals. Even better, human life is not an auction. Seriously? You showed in the second episode that Kostya is exactly like an auctioneer looking for a richer avenger and killing the one who paid less, and now he says this phrase, and Sasha, who knew that the Cat was killed precisely because the victim's mother paid no more, did not react to this pathetic phrase. And during the meeting, everyone argues with Kostya that the state pays little for work and they will continue Outsourcing, even if it is not according to the rules, but no one discusses what kind of morality Kostya has, where you can kill an innocent person. a man only because he is a witness. For some reason, no one from the company is interested in how it combines such principles of justice and Oleg's murder in one person. The screenwriter makes blunder after blunder, trying to combine ordinary crime with some kind of psychological drama, but everything looks as primitive and illogical as possible. Only the black atmosphere is well maintained. Otherwise, the script is made on the knee for those who, when watching the next episode, forgot what was in the previous one. The characters are cardboard and exaggerated to the point of unnaturalness. The actions of all the heroes, without exception, do not have a single line and logic as such. Everything is done simply to escalate the situation, without going into details. Endless coincidences, quick investigations, quick murders, and we're off to the next episode. I still don't understand why people are excited.
rodriguezzz
rodriguezzz
14 Mar 07:19 #
Can you tell me a nuance - how did Konstantin get into a conversation with the investigator? He did not reveal himself during the housewarming process and did not say that he was busy investigating the murder. Or did I miss something?
ugly-swan
ugly-swan
Yesterday, 21:50 #
@rodriguezzz: It seems to me that even at the beginning of the episode, when he was eavesdropping on the conversations of others, he realized that the guys needed to be flooded. And then there's a housewarming party, what's not a chance? And whether he's investigating something or not, it's a proactive plan, so to speak.
rsv-rsv
rsv-rsv
PRO
Yesterday, 15:11 #
Constantine the monster
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