Once again, a calm series, nevertheless eventful. At first, it occurred to me that the women's collective would do something incredible while the men decided who was the trembling creature and who had the right, but this thought evaporated into nothing. The boss decided to grab everything for himself with someone else's hands, but Kostya is not a fool. I expect a survival game from the finale."The finale promises to be intense, I think everyone will step away from outsourcing. Who will suffer the most? The calm before the storm
"It's not convenient for you, comrade prosecutor, there are no bars. At least you can sit down like a human being. Well, not a hint at all)))
So, to add a dose of depression and decay in the morning, mmmmm, I love it)
What about this series: When he started talking, he didn't care about anything before, but now look how businesslike he has become, the appearance of the staff began to bother him, and the doctor's out-of-hours life interested him, and he remembered that he was the boss here. No, I understand why this is happening, but still))
I really liked the scene of the quarrel between the doctor and his wife Julia. Wonderful actors, as if the real conversation of the family was captured on camera, not a game.
And Natasha's mother is too smart. Why is she fucking everywhere? Did you want the best, did it work out as always?
I was very worried about Roman and Kostya's wife. I really wanted them to escape from all this, even though I felt that nothing would work out for them. True, I thought Kostya would overtake them and scare his wife to death with his appearance, but it turned out as it turned out. Oh, Roma Roma... there is a feeling that she will commit suicide in the next episode((
Shh, we're waiting for the finale, I hope it doesn't disappoint.
@GermanSW: It's not a fact, maybe Kostya and his daughter have already boarded the plane. Or maybe Kostya's colleagues will kill her and she will really fly away alone with his money.
@an_khv: It seems to me that Kostya will be fine in the end. And that's why she'll have to run away. P.S. Are the disadvantages of the previous comment put by those who haven't seen the trailer?
From the whole series, Masha's act was hooked, knowing her father, realizing that her mother would leave forever, she let her go and was so happy for her when she left.. they basically switched roles, the daughter looks at her mother as a child.. But Kostya realized that his wife was getting married and he was very afraid for the girl..
@Elia07: It's just unclear why Masha switched so abruptly. Somehow they didn't show a moment where she suddenly felt sympathy for her mom or something (or I missed it)
@will-o-the-wisp: Masha is at the age when she competes with her mother for her father's attention, so her desire to let her mother go is quite an attempt to remain the most unique and beloved in his life.
@Elia07: I wonder what kind of mother is this who is so calmly ready to leave her child??? In general, the series is good, but it caught my eye that all the female characters are the epitome of unpleasant, sometimes disgusting types.
@peacemaker: Mila Yershova (Natasha) said in an interview that initially Kostya was supposed to do something bloody with the wives of his colleagues. But then it was cut off. And apparently, right at the installation. Therefore, the series is short.
@GermanSW: Natasha is being discharged from the hospital - jacket, sweatshirt, pants...she comes to Yulia the same way, only in a fur coat... she comes to her mother in a fur coat and a dress + her hair is a little curled...There were some events between Julia's departure and her mother's, which, apparently, were cut out.
@an_khv: well, somehow the end was leaked. I won't write because there's a discussion of Episode 7 here, but I wasn't expecting such a clueless ending. Personally, I would like to see everyone put in jail, they would be in the place of criminals, and suddenly bang Yeltsin's law and it would become clear to them that there would be no simple end.it's real until the end. And then the plastic world won .
Unfortunately, it turned out predictably with the earrings.
When Kostya was going to work, correcting his appearance, there was something disturbing. There was a thought that he would not return home. According to the words of the prison governor, there are not that many options for the development of events.
From the details, Roma has a selection of "dreams" in her room: a car, girls, an island of some kind. A selection in the form of a "cross". At the very top is a clock. In that family, everyone tries to have their own religion.
@an_khv: I think after her husband's heartfelt speech that he alone cared whether she got drunk or not, she realized that he really loved her, and the earrings were just one of the proofs of love on his part, even though they were tasteless according to Kostya
@an_khv: they generally have peculiar ideas about love there, just remember Natasha's beaming face when she found out that her husband had killed a rapist, and that he had done her brains out before and brought her to tragedy, that's nothing.
@wolfork15: I came across a post on the TG channel "Russian cinema in the top"
>>...the initial "OUTSOURCING" scenario was even tougher. Especially towards women (spoilers):
Out of anger, Rybkin (the hero of Eldar Kalimulin) repeatedly raped his bride (Ershov) when he found out that she had just been raped. Therefore, he wanted to shoot himself, and the paternity of the child was even more difficult to establish.
In the finale, Volkov (Ivan Yankovsky's character) consistently killed all the heroines of the series: Rybkin's wife, Savelyev's mother (Olga Lapshina), the prosecutor's wife (Karina Alexandrova) and all the girls in general. Then he pushed the theory that women only harmed them, and all his colleagues agreed with this! Together they got rid of the dead heroines by throwing them off a cliff in a car. thank you for choosing a different solution. We are waiting for the bomb finale
@lady_kana: You probably haven't met any alcohol addicts. It's useless to put brains in there, no talking, no persuasion, no pleas, no beatings can fix anything, you need to run from addicts like from fire, they poison the lives of not only themselves, but also everyone around them. I do not think that he immediately began to let go of his hands, he clearly tried to help her in a good way at first, but alas, everything was in vain, and he hit her already when his patience finally ran out, he lost his temper. I can understand him, but fuck this drunken bastard, I don't understand, he's a prosecutor, obviously a man with ambitions, and this anchor will drag him to the bottom.
@id814332120: It may be useless, but we need to do something, or she'll get drunk later, and I couldn't do anything. A clean break is more like a description of an isolated incident, but it happened to him (and at a housewarming party, when there were still a lot of people in the apartment)
But why does he need it, I can only assume that it is a love story
Oh, how good and how little.. pumping it up before the finale causes wild tension. Kostya is generally scary here..You don't know what to think anymore🙈
I am both amazed and saddened by the fact that the series takes place at the end of the last century, and to make a series about it, you don't really need decorations and pavilions, because almost 3 decades later, nothing has changed much.
@alexsandra_malik: It always strikes me in many Russian TV series that you watch the 80s and 90s and realize that even in your city you can find such houses, hospitals, streets.
@alexsandra_malik: Well I do not know. On the contrary, it seems to me that a lot has changed. The houses may be the same, but the entrances are clean, benches, playgrounds, asphalt. At least in more or less large cities. But the small ones, of course, bend. Urbanization
@alexsandra_malik: in fact, it is clear that they tried very hard to shoot somewhere on the outskirts, industrial zones, few general shots of the city. and of course, the time of year, the filters. There are no shots from the city center, etc. And the decorators did their job well too.
The guns are firing too fast. They've just been hanged, and in the next scene it's already shooting. Volkov is Moriarty from Russia. A genius, a manipulator, a playboy. How he calculated everything. But here comes the beginning. prisons are also not easy to sew, and they will be in the right place at the right time, and they will put pressure on the sore points. Well, we'll find out who the scriptwriters love more soon.
everyone has their own argument in front of their wives, why is he doing this, which, in fact, is true , if you think about who will carry it out, what difference does it make?... Natasha's mom is climbing at all? They answer her, "No at the workplace," and where is he? Why are you asking? Does he want to jail his son-in-law? So you didn't even witness the murder , the feeling is that Kostya will solve this problem, but then, what, one season? I don't think so, because the series was badly advertised + the boss, out, stirred up a whole story further
@skazo4huk: The kid's word was actually some kind of unrealistic boom, and there was only 1 season. And honestly, if it weren't for the ads in OKKO itself, I still wouldn't know.
@skazo4huk: I just remember being sucked everywhere. In hockey, friends discussed in chat rooms. But outsourcing really seems to have passed me by. I didn't feel the boom.
@Choly_Cavel: I also found out by chance from a friend. The joint venture was going so well, and the last episodes seemed to be on their knees. I hope that doesn't happen to the finale here.
@lady_kana: I don't understand Nina at all. I hope that in the final episode they will somehow reveal the heroine and the motivation of her actions. So far, I don't understand what's going on at all. Yes, her husband is strange and she is clearly intimidated, but at the same time, Chet is not afraid to stir things up with some left-wing man on the side, tell him about orgasms and calmly climb into bed with him, and then run away, leaving the child. Very strange behavior for a victim of abuse.
@rio_suerte: mb it's worth exploring the concept of abuse and possible patterns of behavior that you have replaced with something like "Oh, well, if you're a victim, then suffer to the fullest."; It doesn't work that way)
@raziel2011: well, yes, the obvious patterns of behavior with watermelon are to buy books together in times of famine, without even being able to get money for these boots on your own, and another obvious pattern is to sleep with the first degenerate you meet)) Oh, those poor victims of watermelon))
@lady_kana: He doesn't mock his daughter, but he does a lot of things to his wife. Although.. She would at least have a fight with him once for once. I don't care if he wins, but he's not a wimp.
The toads (the lieutenant colonel and co.) and the viper (Kostya) are joined by women who emotionally feel the whole process of what is happening and as if they are even starting to succeed, but rational men come and explain - well, what you wanted, there is no other way.
The worst thing is that there is a big reason for this, trouble and its own truth. But this truth makes you sick - it's impossible just to.
Nina's misfortune also looks very poignant against this background. On the one hand, a cold sadist, on the other, a neurotic mother's son.
Run, Nina, run, grab your daughter and get out of there. That's what all the other girls want to shout.
Yeah. I'd like to say, like Lesha Barats, "You're all doing great here." My empathy towards the characters has dropped to almost zero. Petya and Yulia still arouse acceptance. In my opinion, as the story progressed, even Petya's face changed — the grin with a hint of tired doom disappeared, and the features became beautiful because of everything he went through. And he seems to have forgotten about his problem without any haloperidol. I want them to get out of this story alive and go somewhere where Julia can receive therapy. Separately, Nina and Roman's line got tired. The viewers rooting for this "couple" are puzzled. What's the good of flying off to hell, leaving a child with this character? With the weak-willed son of a tightly beaten mother, suppressed by her all his life and probably hating all women as a class in his heart. And his "love" is a complete hat. And there are obviously no brains — even money is not able to hide well before the great escape. The collage in the shape of a cross on the wall above was correctly noted — that's all he's interested in. And in the USA, if he gets there, nothing awaits him but disappointment and poverty. And Nina was sculpted by the creators to be so pointedly speechless and wretched, especially now, with a shaved head, that she causes nothing but a desire to finish off. The blame for violence of any form lies with the author of the violence, but the victim has responsibility for his life. Natasha rounded up her eyes at the news about where the dough came from, but continued to wear the fur coat until the series finale. It's also an eloquent touch to the portrait. Due to the tempo and reduced saturation of the plot, the sixth and seventh series still raise questions. The timing of 37 minutes is also surprising. There are 55 minutes left to answer a large number of questions, and now it is safe to assume that they are unlikely to be enough. In the finale, I want to get the most out of the Dice — I missed it in this episode. I still think that if his line ends with death, it will not be at the hands of these comrades, but at his own hands.
I will express the most controversial opinion, but it boiled over)
Disclaimer: Kostya is an abuser, there are no questions here, it's hard to live with him. But I really have questions for my wife, I'm sorry. She has lived with him for many years, knows his character and his triggers. Judging by what they showed us at the beginning, if you don't trigger him, he won't just fool around. We were shown two situations of abuse on his part, and it's hard for me to believe that his wife didn't understand what the outcome would be.
Situation 1. He gives her money for boots. She doesn't know exactly how much money he has, maybe it's the last one. And she goes and buys books with them. What is the planning horizon for this deception, because he immediately saw that there were no boots? And she knew his reaction, so why did she do it?
Situation 2. She's just sleeping with his colleague without any passion-again, it's revealed immediately. And again, the question is, what kind of reaction did she expect?
Okay, he's an abuser and generally a terrible person - but take another husband in those difficult times. You give your hard-earned pennies to your wife for shoes, and she spends them on old books. You go to a new job - she cheats on you with your colleague a week later, everyone knows about it. This is all against the backdrop of a terrible time when people are trying to survive in the most difficult conditions. The question is, what reaction will there be to this, not from the great and terrible Kostya, but just from a random ordinary man of that time?
I don't approve of his behavior in any way! I just have questions about the script, or rather, about the behavior of the characters in this scenario. It's hard for me to fully understand the horror of Bones, because on the one hand they make it clear to us that he is a terrible abuser, manipulator and evil in the flesh, who brings his wife to Roskomnadzor, but on the other hand these are the expected reactions in response to her actions from many men. that time. The same prosecutor is shown to us as a completely ordinary man of average badness, while he generally beats his wife - but this is like much more light-hearted than what Kostya does.
@Marrrrrrrrrrusia: Kostya's wife is as strange as possible, and we probably haven't been shown anything about their past yet. There are suspicions that she also bullied her daughter from another colleague, and that's why he's been punishing her for their entire life together. And even in this episode, she was ready to leave her daughter with such a father and fly somewhere with this underdeveloped Roma. And as for the prosecutor, he didn't beat his wife out of a good life either. She's always running into trouble, drinking like crazy. At the first serious disagreement, she stumbled into the club, and she, like Natasha, could have been taken somewhere or even completely killed. The only doctor there has a normal wife, whom you empathize with. And who really suffers for nothing.
@GermanSW: By the way, exactly, I forgot to write about my daughter - how is that at all? Some wives don't leave bad husbands just because of their children - the topic is debatable, but their main argument is that they will tolerate it, but the children will be worse off without a father - there is nowhere to live, no money, etc. There is simply zero doubt from the mother - she kissed the top of her head and ran to hell knows where to fuck understand by whom. And again, questions about the script - show us at least a flashback episode of how he used to mock her, turned her from a blooming girl into this downtrodden mouse, suppressed and humiliated her for years, and then show the development of a relationship with this colleague - falling in love, confessions, secret meetings, understanding that she finally found his true love, worries that it's hard to leave a child, but continuing to live with Kostya is not an option, he will just torture her - OK, then everything would be more logical and understandable. As it was, they exchanged a few words, then some ridiculous bed scene, and then Thanks, daughter, come here, I flew, your dad won't let me buy books or cheat with other men.
I agree with the prosecutor's wife, but I am against physical violence in principle, almost everyone has an abnormal relationship there, everything is good, as they say. That's why I have a question - why is Kostya so terrible compared to the others? After all, the whole series is broadcasting this idea to us - that all people are like people, with their flaws, and only he is particularly terrible, evil under a beautiful shell.
@GermanSW: And as for the prosecutor, he didn't beat his wife out of a good life either." Dear Herman, No one has the right to beat a weaker person! You never know how she gets into trouble... the issue is solved very simply - by divorce! Since she's such an insignificant, wayward woman, we need to find someone else. Modest, family-friendly, non-drinkers. That's it! And forget about this one as if it were a bad dream. Clearly she hadn't suddenly changed, and clearly he loved her like that. With this behavior, with this character, with this champagne. And he married someone like that. So that what? To fuck*?% to re-educate? It was only in this episode that we saw that he tried to talk to her normally. And it was only in this episode that they saw that she seemed to understand him after that. It's not a fact, of course, but I definitely heard it. Before solving issues with your fists, you can always have a good conversation. And in their case, it wouldn't hurt to do it before the wedding and not get married if it didn't help.
@fioly: From his point of view, he's saving her. You can hear it in his voice, in their last kitchen conversation. That she'd get drunk without him That he was the only one who cared about her. Besides, since he's so bad.Why didn't she leave? She's definitely not an intimidated victim. And deep down, he understands all of the above perfectly. Plus he loves money. Everything is more complicated in life than in the comments. She seemed to hear him, but she ran to the store first, to get the earrings. That also characterizes her
@GermanSW: I'm sorry, are you even capable of writing this? Is he punishing his wife for any sins? Tough guy, let's psychologically mock everyone for their sins.; Justifying a complete psychopath beats his wife not from a good life? Tough guy, let's get everyone who has a bad life to fuck their wives looking for trouble? Can you fuck people for that too? Do you know how abuse works? what kind of psychological trauma does it cause? how do women get used to living in such an environment and unintentionally get into situations for which they can get from a man (and should not actually get)
@Голубь_232: Girl, please be treated. You obviously need to. Here they discuss the logic of the actions of the characters of the series Not your family problems. Where and when did I write that I agree with what these characters are doing? It's important to understand what they think about it.rather than voicing common truths Have some valerian, maybe he'll let you go.
@GermanSW: man, everything is logically shown there, how abuse works and how people behave))) you should be treated with such logic, stop defending moral freaks and psychopaths and look for a share of adequate behavior in their actions.
@Голубь_232: Where did I protect them, inadequate? Do you even know how to read, or are you just scribbling angry sheets? Get well, girl. Urgently. Otherwise, I might have a stroke of righteous anger.
@GermanSW: I can read perfectly well, and I see in your comment only excuses for the inappropriate behavior of the characters towards the girls ...She stumbled into the club, and she, like Natasha, could have been taken somewhere..." is it your own fault? you should really get medical treatment and it is advisable not to approach women with such beliefs.
@Голубь_232: Definitely inadequate. Get well. And also cross yourself when something seems to be happening. And don't attribute your sick thoughts to others.
@Marrrrrrrrrrusia: this opinion is not controversial, but adequate. It's just that the current trend is to completely deprive victims of violence of subjectivity and only strongly condemn abusers. Although, if you live with such a person, it is logical to act on the basis of these introductory statements and not provoke him once again. And yes, no abuse cancels two things.: 1) cheating, and just like that, without any feelings, and 2) willingness to fly to another continent, leaving her daughter with an ambiguous (to put it mildly) father.
Apart from Kostya's wife, there are questions for almost all female characters. Not in terms of who is good and who is bad, but in terms of scenario logic. It's clear that all the men there are different kinds of g's, but they destroy their lives and those around them quite consistently, whereas women are prescribed as strangely as possible.
Why against the background of total P...Is it the information about the guys' earnings that caused them such a shock? It was the middle of the 90s, there was no money, no work, no clothes, no food, the country was going to hell, people were stealing, killing, and raping on the streets - it was so common that no one even thought of reporting rape to the police, neither to their relatives nor to the victim. And the news about the guys' earnings is what became the last straw, really?
So Natasha is happy and proud of her husband that he killed two people, but outsourcing is a red line? The prosecutor's wife had been driving him for years because of his salary, and suddenly he rented an expensive apartment, bought a car and gold, and she had no questions about where the money came from. Just fell out of the sky? And again, questions about the script - well, I don't believe that the empty-headed walking wife of a prosecutor would really react so negatively to her husband's way of earning money, well, she's not that kind of person. And the doctor's wife? Did he tell her correctly - that is, the almost dead man in our kitchen didn't surprise you, but the news about outsourcing is already beyond the pale?
And the result of the universal female hysteria is nothing, zero, nothing at all. And they pumped up almost the catharsis of the whole series, a subtle calculation of the Bone, a punch in the gut to all their colleagues. In short, I really hope that the last episode will somehow straighten out all these strange plot moves, otherwise it's still unclear why they went there in principle.
@Marrrrrrrrrrusia: I'm also curious why many of them don't work. It is clear that it is difficult to work in such a town, but at that time everyone was trying to earn money. But in fact, Katya is an unemployed fool with no king in her head and incipient alcoholism, Natasha also does not do anything, Nina, with her philological education, for some reason does not work, for example, as a teacher of Russian and literature at school. And only Julia is a dentist.
@reflexenia: I've been thinking about it too. Yes, there used to be problems with work, but it was by profession, because all knowledge workers were forced to go into trade, but one way or another everyone worked, families simply could not afford for a healthy woman not to work. Women worked in stalls, shops, kitchens, markets, hairdressers - but they had to work, being a housewife was a luxury for the rich. And here, none of the women work at all, except for the doctor, an unrealistic situation. Katya, let's say, logically, this is the essence of her character - greedy, stupid, walking, lazy. But Natasha is an ordinary girl, we were shown that her girlfriends work. Another question about the script.
@reflexenia: I was wondering why Nina wasn't working, and there are two options - her husband doesn't allow it, and the second one didn't have a job in her specialty, since they moved in the middle of the school year (January)
@Marrrrrrrrrrusia: it seems to me that this became the apogee precisely because it opened my eyes to the possible future fate of the husbands and themselves. "They'll put us in jail, and maybe they'll put us in jail too." That's why they were afraid, for themselves in particular. And she certainly romanticizes the murder of her rapist, and she doesn't even think about the fact that she can sit down for it either.
@lady_kana: You can work outside of your specialty. At that time, many were trading, sneaking around, and so on. If my husband forbade it, well, they would have made it clear to us in one sentence. Otherwise, there are too many understatements for the final episode. After all, this is an audience movie, not an author's movie, so that we can think of so many things.
Could Roma just not at least show up at the train station and explain the situation? God, what a spineless thing. I just wanted to scream. And his mother, well, just…It's all very naturally played, which is why it burns.
Yes, Nina is generally an ambiguous character with oddities (to leave and leave her daughter with an abuser, to change, roughly speaking, with the first person she meets, and all that), but I felt so sorry for her at that moment. I trusted a man and didn't get a banal human relationship in return. It's very sad.
The boss is not simple at all, of course. I doubt that Kostya will be able to beat him and get out of this whole story with the least losses.
I have compiled a list of questions for myself (besides the most obvious ones) that I would like to get answers to.
1. Kostya. Will we learn anything about his past, or was the "Better not to know" in the first episode addressed not only and not so much to the warden of the prison as to the viewer? Yes, we have information from the screenwriter about her combat experience in Chechnya and "some form of PTSD," but we would like something more. Why, for example, does he seem to have no sex life at all and no needs in this area? What has he been doing the last two episodes when we haven't seen him? And how did he dispose of the money (he was the only one who didn't spend it)? 2. Nina. Obviously, it wasn't her daughter who was holding her next to her husband, because she easily left her daughter. Then why did she stay by Kostya's side at all? What kind of relationship do they have? 3. Did Julia infect her son? Did her colleague tell the whole city about her HIV status? Did Yulia's husband really infect her, and if so, why is he HIV-negative? And by the way, how is his mistress doing? (I liked the actress). 4. Will the Doctor be executed or will he live up to the moratorium? 5. Did Roman kill my mother? In this episode, there was an ominous scene when he went into the hallway after her questions at the door. 6. Would anyone even bother with the disappearance of a cop?
I probably forgot something, so it would be cool if someone would add it.
@reflexenia: In general, I would like more episodes in the series, as if there is a lot to think about, and the story outside the plot (Kostya's life) is much more interesting than the plot itself, it's a shame)
There are real facts about HIV - the carrier can transmit it, but he does not get sick himself, they seem to have confirmed this in the series that they have exactly such a situation.
@reflexenia: Nina, most likely, simply did not dare to escape on her own. Maybe she has nowhere to go, maybe she's just scared. Therefore, she is ready to run away with the first man she meets, leaving even her daughter, because finally there is an opportunity not to do it alone.
Julia herself said that she had heard about HIV-negative patients who are only carriers. Of course, her husband infected her, considering that he fucks with everyone.
The doctor probably won't be executed. There were no people willing to pay, and under the guise of his corpse, the cop and the unfortunate friend of the child's father, to whom the doctor injected his cocktail of death, had already been disposed of in a bag. By and large, the doctor is no longer there. He was executed on paper, but in fact he is in a cell. Therefore, the moratorium will not save him, unless all the perpetrators and the prison governor are shut down and a new boss appears who will conduct a full check and find the doctor.
@fioly: I still don't see the logic, and I consider the downside of the scenario in this case. If she can run off with a jerk like that, she can do it alone. Because he's more of a ballast than a backup. And if he was so fixated on her, you could ask him to hide his money somewhere together, so that you could just take it and run away, dropping your slippers. After he cheated on her like a consumer and paid for it with his mother's worn boots, he deserves it.
Julia could say anything, it's 1996 and the periphery. I'm not a doctor, but even a cursory Google in English reveals that you can only get the virus from an HIV-positive person. That's why Petya doesn't get along with his negative status.
@reflexenia: It's obvious that it wasn't her daughter who was holding her next to her husband. In general, it feels like Masha isn't really her own daughter, even though she calls her mom. Perhaps Nina is not the first in a series of such mothers who at some point just run away from Kostya.
And all you had to do was talk to your partner through your mouth. Thanks to Kostya))
In the end, the question is how bad it's going to end. Even if they remain alive, free and without losses, it is unlikely that the heroes will be happy. I would like at least a tiny internal development of at least one of them.
@varyasunday: she loves her daughter, just in her own way) more precisely, she probably loves her and her actions seem logical and correct to her in relation to her daughter.
They'll kill each other and transplant each other, and I think the most anticipated ending will be from the very beginning. The intrigue has just begun, it will happen to their wives once and for all, he is the only one who can have enough brains and cunning to get away with it.
@Sociophobe: now I have a thought — what if Kostya decides to end everything with his suicide, having previously written a letter to the Investigative Committee, accusing colleagues of outsourcing and bullying, like he refused to participate in this, and the boss persuaded others to poison him, even to the point of murder. Of course, this may be too simple, but at the same time, this action would raise a lot of questions from higher-ups and would start a storm that would lead to a moratorium on the death penalty. He would also accuse them of murdering the investigator, which would be confirmed fairly quickly. After all, the time is approaching 1997. 🤔
@marlenad_13: It seems to me that he loves himself too much to commit suicide in order for someone to be imprisoned there. He already has a chance to get away with it, judging by his cunning.
It seems to me that everything will end with the introduction of this moratorium and the end of their business. No one is killing anyone, everything will just end and they will run away each to their own business and corners.
Do you think there's any other way we can make money here? If you know how, tell me how? There is no other way, it simply does not exist!"This is already a frontal allusion - at this point, even the most naive viewers should understand that the series, of course, is not about the 90s, but about today. About the only chance provincial peasants have to get out of poverty through the so-called "free labor", about the widowed wives of contract soldiers, about Ladas and meat grinders...
@Aberrabunt: although she is a victim and does not deserve such an attitude, she initially has something wrong with her psyche (she is just more naive than a child
The author of the script put so much stuff in the blender that it's even surprising that there's not a single brother. But the prosecutor handles the guards and lives with his parents, what a charm. I look at life in a dunghill at National Geographic without empathy.
The series flew by so fast, and the season finale is coming soon. I understand that there will be a cut of Bones and outsourcers with it? I still wonder if Kostya will be revealed even more deeply as a character with his family jokes. At first, the daughter betrayed her mother, now she has gone against her father. The wife (mother), of course, is still a cuckoo. I calmly went to the airport, for the sake of some kind of guy, whom I know a little bit.
The prison governor is very annoying. The bald man was knocked over with this whole topic, and he put a crown on his head, and he also rides in the prosecutor's car.
@Mehabr: So on the contrary, this is the juice that showed a gang of girls in such roles. For example, the prosecutor's wife well embodies the current girls, selfish, money is their incentive to maintain an attitude, the rest is not important. Natasha is a stupid, naive and driven person, if she is an adult and got married, then listening to her mother's advice is the last thing, you can listen to the advice, but you need to decide properly with your husband, yes, he hesitated with the decision, but I think it took time for such a situation, and not to cut from the shoulder. Unfortunately, the doctor's wife is a positive character for me, just as an example of how men behave so badly with such good women. Kostya's wife is a separate case, as far as I'm concerned, she's a mentally ill girl, I don't even want to comment. I don't see any point in discussing her daughter at all. She's just a kid. You can see her actions differently from each bell tower, but this is a small thing.… Well, the last character is Natasha's mom, she's a real mentor, a typical parent educator. It's easier to blame a child than to realize your mistakes. Well, what I wanted to say is that it's pretty cool that there are a lot of "interesting" fallen characters in the series. There is more interest from this and there is something to think about.😀
Until the last moment, I hoped that Roma would behave like a man... I feel so sorry for this girl, Kostya's wife. I'm scared for her. It's not clear what the solution is for all the characters. But something tells me that nothing good should be expected. Such corruption and depression
@g1365447: What a stupid thing to do! How is it that there is not a single positive character- but Roma's mother? A positive ginseng is like that, pious, God-fearing. Her face is so intelligent and spiritual. Well done, she raised a wonderful son.
It's a pity that the farewell scenes of Rybkin and Natasha and the touching episodes of Nina and her daughter were cut out.. and the series has become too stripped down and the characters are not fully revealed because of this. We will be waiting for the director's version.
It started with such intrigue, but now some nonsense has gone on - aunts with searches, Kostya with his fairy tales, shooters at each other. It doesn't seem boring to watch, but it's kind of crazy.
You can talk about "strange female behavior" in this series as much as you want, but in my opinion everything is much simpler, the scriptwriters just don't know how to write female characters. This is a common problem in cinema. Women look like silly hysterics. There are plenty of such examples, and Outsourcing is no exception. Instead of the character's character, it is better to prescribe as many shock scenes with violence, humiliation, etc. as possible. Get the money and go home)
Discussion of the 7 episode of the 1 season Discuss this episode
149So, to add a dose of depression and decay in the morning, mmmmm, I love it)
What about this series:
When he started talking, he didn't care about anything before, but now look how businesslike he has become, the appearance of the staff began to bother him, and the doctor's out-of-hours life interested him, and he remembered that he was the boss here. No, I understand why this is happening, but still))
I really liked the scene of the quarrel between the doctor and his wife Julia. Wonderful actors, as if the real conversation of the family was captured on camera, not a game.
And Natasha's mother is too smart. Why is she fucking everywhere? Did you want the best, did it work out as always?
I was very worried about Roman and Kostya's wife. I really wanted them to escape from all this, even though I felt that nothing would work out for them. True, I thought Kostya would overtake them and scare his wife to death with his appearance, but it turned out as it turned out. Oh, Roma Roma...
there is a feeling that she will commit suicide in the next episode((
Shh, we're waiting for the finale, I hope it doesn't disappoint.
P.S. Are the disadvantages of the previous comment put by those who haven't seen the trailer?
In general, the series is good, but it caught my eye that all the female characters are the epitome of unpleasant, sometimes disgusting types.
When Kostya was going to work, correcting his appearance, there was something disturbing. There was a thought that he would not return home. According to the words of the prison governor, there are not that many options for the development of events.
From the details, Roma has a selection of "dreams" in her room: a car, girls, an island of some kind. A selection in the form of a "cross". At the very top is a clock. In that family, everyone tries to have their own religion.
I would like to leave with the money and not return home.
>>...the initial "OUTSOURCING" scenario was even tougher. Especially towards women (spoilers):
Out of anger, Rybkin (the hero of Eldar Kalimulin) repeatedly raped his bride (Ershov) when he found out that she had just been raped. Therefore, he wanted to shoot himself, and the paternity of the child was even more difficult to establish.
In the finale, Volkov (Ivan Yankovsky's character) consistently killed all the heroines of the series: Rybkin's wife, Savelyev's mother (Olga Lapshina), the prosecutor's wife (Karina Alexandrova) and all the girls in general. Then he pushed the theory that women only harmed them, and all his colleagues agreed with this! Together they got rid of the dead heroines by throwing them off a cliff in a car.
thank you for choosing a different solution. We are waiting for the bomb finale
Such things.
But why does he need it, I can only assume that it is a love story
pumping it up before the finale causes wild tension.
Kostya is generally scary here..You don't know what to think anymore🙈
Volkov is Moriarty from Russia. A genius, a manipulator, a playboy. How he calculated everything.
But here comes the beginning. prisons are also not easy to sew, and they will be in the right place at the right time, and they will put pressure on the sore points.
Well, we'll find out who the scriptwriters love more soon.
, if you think about who will carry it out, what difference does it make?...
Natasha's mom is climbing at all? They answer her, "No at the workplace," and where is he? Why are you asking? Does he want to jail his son-in-law? So you didn't even witness the murder
, the feeling is that Kostya will solve this problem, but then, what, one season? I don't think so, because the series was badly advertised + the boss, out, stirred up a whole story further
The joint venture was going so well, and the last episodes seemed to be on their knees. I hope that doesn't happen to the finale here.
It doesn't work that way)
The toads (the lieutenant colonel and co.) and the viper (Kostya) are joined by women who emotionally feel the whole process of what is happening and as if they are even starting to succeed, but rational men come and explain - well, what you wanted, there is no other way.
The worst thing is that there is a big reason for this, trouble and its own truth. But this truth makes you sick - it's impossible just to.
Nina's misfortune also looks very poignant against this background. On the one hand, a cold sadist, on the other, a neurotic mother's son.
Run, Nina, run, grab your daughter and get out of there. That's what all the other girls want to shout.
But where to run, on what bumps...Oh, my
My empathy towards the characters has dropped to almost zero. Petya and Yulia still arouse acceptance. In my opinion, as the story progressed, even Petya's face changed — the grin with a hint of tired doom disappeared, and the features became beautiful because of everything he went through. And he seems to have forgotten about his problem without any haloperidol. I want them to get out of this story alive and go somewhere where Julia can receive therapy.
Separately, Nina and Roman's line got tired. The viewers rooting for this "couple" are puzzled. What's the good of flying off to hell, leaving a child with this character? With the weak-willed son of a tightly beaten mother, suppressed by her all his life and probably hating all women as a class in his heart. And his "love" is a complete hat. And there are obviously no brains — even money is not able to hide well before the great escape. The collage in the shape of a cross on the wall above was correctly noted — that's all he's interested in. And in the USA, if he gets there, nothing awaits him but disappointment and poverty. And Nina was sculpted by the creators to be so pointedly speechless and wretched, especially now, with a shaved head, that she causes nothing but a desire to finish off. The blame for violence of any form lies with the author of the violence, but the victim has responsibility for his life.
Natasha rounded up her eyes at the news about where the dough came from, but continued to wear the fur coat until the series finale. It's also an eloquent touch to the portrait.
Due to the tempo and reduced saturation of the plot, the sixth and seventh series still raise questions. The timing of 37 minutes is also surprising. There are 55 minutes left to answer a large number of questions, and now it is safe to assume that they are unlikely to be enough.
In the finale, I want to get the most out of the Dice — I missed it in this episode. I still think that if his line ends with death, it will not be at the hands of these comrades, but at his own hands.
Disclaimer: Kostya is an abuser, there are no questions here, it's hard to live with him. But I really have questions for my wife, I'm sorry. She has lived with him for many years, knows his character and his triggers. Judging by what they showed us at the beginning, if you don't trigger him, he won't just fool around. We were shown two situations of abuse on his part, and it's hard for me to believe that his wife didn't understand what the outcome would be.
Situation 1. He gives her money for boots. She doesn't know exactly how much money he has, maybe it's the last one. And she goes and buys books with them. What is the planning horizon for this deception, because he immediately saw that there were no boots? And she knew his reaction, so why did she do it?
Situation 2. She's just sleeping with his colleague without any passion-again, it's revealed immediately. And again, the question is, what kind of reaction did she expect?
Okay, he's an abuser and generally a terrible person - but take another husband in those difficult times. You give your hard-earned pennies to your wife for shoes, and she spends them on old books. You go to a new job - she cheats on you with your colleague a week later, everyone knows about it. This is all against the backdrop of a terrible time when people are trying to survive in the most difficult conditions. The question is, what reaction will there be to this, not from the great and terrible Kostya, but just from a random ordinary man of that time?
I don't approve of his behavior in any way! I just have questions about the script, or rather, about the behavior of the characters in this scenario. It's hard for me to fully understand the horror of Bones, because on the one hand they make it clear to us that he is a terrible abuser, manipulator and evil in the flesh, who brings his wife to Roskomnadzor, but on the other hand these are the expected reactions in response to her actions from many men. that time. The same prosecutor is shown to us as a completely ordinary man of average badness, while he generally beats his wife - but this is like much more light-hearted than what Kostya does.
yet. There are suspicions that she also bullied her daughter from another colleague, and that's why he's been punishing her for their entire life together.
And even in this episode, she was ready to leave her daughter with such a father and fly somewhere with this underdeveloped Roma.
And as for the prosecutor, he didn't beat his wife out of a good life either.
She's always running into trouble, drinking like crazy.
At the first serious disagreement, she stumbled into the club, and she, like Natasha, could have been taken somewhere or even completely killed.
The only doctor there has a normal wife, whom you empathize with.
And who really suffers for nothing.
I agree with the prosecutor's wife, but I am against physical violence in principle, almost everyone has an abnormal relationship there, everything is good, as they say. That's why I have a question - why is Kostya so terrible compared to the others? After all, the whole series is broadcasting this idea to us - that all people are like people, with their flaws, and only he is particularly terrible, evil under a beautiful shell.
And as for the prosecutor, he didn't beat his wife out of a good life either."
Dear Herman, No one has the right to beat a weaker person! You never know how she gets into trouble... the issue is solved very simply - by divorce! Since she's such an insignificant, wayward woman, we need to find someone else. Modest, family-friendly, non-drinkers. That's it! And forget about this one as if it were a bad dream. Clearly she hadn't suddenly changed, and clearly he loved her like that. With this behavior, with this character, with this champagne. And he married someone like that. So that what? To fuck*?% to re-educate? It was only in this episode that we saw that he tried to talk to her normally. And it was only in this episode that they saw that she seemed to understand him after that. It's not a fact, of course, but I definitely heard it. Before solving issues with your fists, you can always have a good conversation. And in their case, it wouldn't hurt to do it before the wedding and not get married if it didn't help.
You can hear it in his voice, in their last kitchen conversation.
That she'd get drunk without him
That he was the only one who cared about her.
Besides, since he's so bad.Why didn't she leave?
She's definitely not an intimidated victim.
And deep down, he understands all of the above perfectly.
Plus he loves money.
Everything is more complicated in life than in the comments.
She seemed to hear him, but she ran to the store first, to get the earrings. That also characterizes her
Is he punishing his wife for any sins? Tough guy, let's psychologically mock everyone for their sins.;
Justifying a complete psychopath
beats his wife not from a good life? Tough guy, let's get everyone who has a bad life to fuck their wives
looking for trouble? Can you fuck people for that too?
Do you know how abuse works? what kind of psychological trauma does it cause? how do women get used to living in such an environment and unintentionally get into situations for which they can get from a man (and should not actually get)
You obviously need to.
Here they discuss the logic of the actions of the characters of the series
Not your family problems.
Where and when did I write that I agree with what these characters are doing?
It's important to understand what they think about it.rather than voicing common truths
Have some valerian, maybe he'll let you go.
Do you even know how to read, or are you just scribbling angry sheets?
Get well, girl.
Urgently.
Otherwise, I might have a stroke of righteous anger.
...She stumbled into the club, and she, like Natasha, could have been taken somewhere..." is it your own fault? you should really get medical treatment
and it is advisable not to approach women with such beliefs.
Get well.
And also cross yourself when something seems to be happening.
And don't attribute your sick thoughts to others.
Ask someone else.
Why against the background of total P...Is it the information about the guys' earnings that caused them such a shock? It was the middle of the 90s, there was no money, no work, no clothes, no food, the country was going to hell, people were stealing, killing, and raping on the streets - it was so common that no one even thought of reporting rape to the police, neither to their relatives nor to the victim. And the news about the guys' earnings is what became the last straw, really?
So Natasha is happy and proud of her husband that he killed two people, but outsourcing is a red line? The prosecutor's wife had been driving him for years because of his salary, and suddenly he rented an expensive apartment, bought a car and gold, and she had no questions about where the money came from. Just fell out of the sky? And again, questions about the script - well, I don't believe that the empty-headed walking wife of a prosecutor would really react so negatively to her husband's way of earning money, well, she's not that kind of person. And the doctor's wife? Did he tell her correctly - that is, the almost dead man in our kitchen didn't surprise you, but the news about outsourcing is already beyond the pale?
And the result of the universal female hysteria is nothing, zero, nothing at all. And they pumped up almost the catharsis of the whole series, a subtle calculation of the Bone, a punch in the gut to all their colleagues. In short, I really hope that the last episode will somehow straighten out all these strange plot moves, otherwise it's still unclear why they went there in principle.
Yes, Nina is generally an ambiguous character with oddities (to leave and leave her daughter with an abuser, to change, roughly speaking, with the first person she meets, and all that), but I felt so sorry for her at that moment. I trusted a man and didn't get a banal human relationship in return. It's very sad.
The boss is not simple at all, of course. I doubt that Kostya will be able to beat him and get out of this whole story with the least losses.
1. Kostya. Will we learn anything about his past, or was the "Better not to know" in the first episode addressed not only and not so much to the warden of the prison as to the viewer? Yes, we have information from the screenwriter about her combat experience in Chechnya and "some form of PTSD," but we would like something more. Why, for example, does he seem to have no sex life at all and no needs in this area? What has he been doing the last two episodes when we haven't seen him? And how did he dispose of the money (he was the only one who didn't spend it)?
2. Nina. Obviously, it wasn't her daughter who was holding her next to her husband, because she easily left her daughter. Then why did she stay by Kostya's side at all? What kind of relationship do they have?
3. Did Julia infect her son? Did her colleague tell the whole city about her HIV status? Did Yulia's husband really infect her, and if so, why is he HIV-negative? And by the way, how is his mistress doing? (I liked the actress).
4. Will the Doctor be executed or will he live up to the moratorium?
5. Did Roman kill my mother? In this episode, there was an ominous scene when he went into the hallway after her questions at the door.
6. Would anyone even bother with the disappearance of a cop?
I probably forgot something, so it would be cool if someone would add it.
There are real facts about HIV - the carrier can transmit it, but he does not get sick himself, they seem to have confirmed this in the series that they have exactly such a situation.
Julia herself said that she had heard about HIV-negative patients who are only carriers. Of course, her husband infected her, considering that he fucks with everyone.
The doctor probably won't be executed. There were no people willing to pay, and under the guise of his corpse, the cop and the unfortunate friend of the child's father, to whom the doctor injected his cocktail of death, had already been disposed of in a bag. By and large, the doctor is no longer there. He was executed on paper, but in fact he is in a cell. Therefore, the moratorium will not save him, unless all the perpetrators and the prison governor are shut down and a new boss appears who will conduct a full check and find the doctor.
Julia could say anything, it's 1996 and the periphery. I'm not a doctor, but even a cursory Google in English reveals that you can only get the virus from an HIV-positive person. That's why Petya doesn't get along with his negative status.
+ She's kind of dim-witted, so I doubt she's even able to earn them.
Not to say that it was a passing series, but it did not cause strong emotions.
In the end, the question is how bad it's going to end. Even if they remain alive, free and without losses, it is unlikely that the heroes will be happy. I would like at least a tiny internal development of at least one of them.
Not loving your daughter that much…
The intrigue has just begun, it will happen to their wives once and for all, he is the only one who can have enough brains and cunning to get away with it.
The layout turned out to be stronger...
The prison governor is very annoying. The bald man was knocked over with this whole topic, and he put a crown on his head, and he also rides in the prosecutor's car.
Well, the last character is Natasha's mom, she's a real mentor, a typical parent educator. It's easier to blame a child than to realize your mistakes.
Well, what I wanted to say is that it's pretty cool that there are a lot of "interesting" fallen characters in the series. There is more interest from this and there is something to think about.😀
It's not clear what the solution is for all the characters. But something tells me that nothing good should be expected. Such corruption and depression
A positive ginseng is like that, pious, God-fearing. Her face is so intelligent and spiritual. Well done, she raised a wonderful son.