@Liyuuuuunder: I want to shout to Marcus, "Come quickly, I'll hug you for a long time."..but hugs alone won't help, I don't know how to help in such a situation...apparently, it is necessary to realize, work through, experience...❤️🩹
@lady_kana: carefully watch, listen, feel, and give what you are asked for in words or without words. And don't be offended if you get pushed away because it's out of control.😔 I don't know any other way..
What is the chemistry between Ginny and Marcus in this episode? I also think Max is very worried that Ginny discusses problems with everyone except her. I noticed this back in the first episode, I wonder if they will develop this line.
@flority: Maybe because Ginny knows the truth about her mother and doesn't want to lie to Max? So it's not really clear yet why she avoids her, considering that she supports her and they talked warmly on the run.
@flority: now I thought that she met everyone by chance, that is, they spontaneously left school with Abby, got into the car for lunch without warning to Ginny, etc. maybe she's not avoiding anyone..? it just turns out that way?
@flority: Max doesn't know how to support. She formally asks "how are you", but she constantly talks and thinks about herself. Everyone who came across her was supportive, and Max, when she came across her, talked about herself again. Therefore, it is not surprising that she is not sharing something with her.
Most of all, I was hooked by the scenes in the therapist's office. It's nice to see that the series raises such important topics, and Ginny gets a little closer and clearer.
Marcus and Ginny's conversation … It was so good, even if it was sad. Ginny really needs a break from Georgia, and so does Austin. Keeping such secrets is very difficult, especially for children.
I'm surprised about Cynthia, I was so sure that she had tacitly asked Georgia to kill her husband. But I respect Georgia for not pushing Cynthia under the bus, as the lawyer suggested.
I'm sorry about Paul. It's all hard for him. I'm also sorry for Austin, but he's doing great, gaining strength, learning to walk with his head held high. A guy is growing up.
Ginny… Her attitude is ambiguous, but I'm glad that at least sometimes she became interested in other people, like Abby or Marcus. And not just always talking about yourself. Well, really, she's not talking about herself mostly, but about her mom) But in general, for a 16-year-old girl, she is quite conscious. And strong.
I started liking Abby more this season. Maybe she's mean, but... that's the kind of person who knows how to be sympathetic and generally be a devoted friend. She has a soul, very much so.
@Annie10792: and it seems to me that they will conclude that Cynthia did something to her husband before Georgia did something to him and now she is so actively attacking to hide her act) And by the way, it seemed that Abby (with red hair?) I like Marcus)
I really like the approach to mental health this season. It was good in the past, too, but here it just opens up to the maximum, I cry on every scene with Marcus, knowing by myself what he's going through. And I like their open relationship with Ginny, I agree with his decision not to be with her yet, it would be too much for both of them. I always have been and always will be(?) on Georgia's side, but telling a child who is in complete disarray because of your own actions that you also wanted to escape from her, but could not, and partly it was her fault - through all the edges. Ginny is certainly not to blame for Georgia's life situation. So far, both episodes are very sad, but good, as for me, this season is already head and shoulders above the first two.
I think we've already written about it. But I don't quite understand. How are Markus' parents helping him? Ginny goes to a specialist, and Marcus? Why doesn't he take pills, people with depression can be helped now.
@g1308462: I think he started drinking last season. It just takes time to get started, and they've probably only had a couple of weeks here. I feel very sorry for Marcus.
@lady_kana: Well, I'm just saying, when they found out that Ginny was burning herself, they promptly sent her to a specialist and she was making good progress. And then it's unclear and alcoholism and depression are progressing, you just look at him and feel so sorry for him. And I don't understand what kind of help is being given to him. Well, besides the fact that they made him a workshop from the garage🤷♀️
@g1308462: He had been taking pills before that. His parents discussed that he needed to CHANGE his pills. So he should have been treated before that. His parents also sent him to the doctor. Perhaps he goes to someone behind the scenes.
@g1308462: Depression doesn't just go away with AD. For me, for example, she left completely after 3 years (this is also due to therapy), and so, the pills give a chemical effect on the brain, but the thoughts do not go anywhere. It takes time and effort to heal yourself, it's very difficult.
In this situation, I feel sorry for Ginny, who has to teach her brother to go through what she went through, and Austin, who just happened to be a bystander.
Antonia Gentry plays just for a million people, her facial expressions are something, I admire. Her monologue in Marcus's garage and their conversation is just heartbreaking. And in general, their relationship is so cautious, it's obvious that it's magnetizing, but they don't break into codependency to help themselves first, and then try to build something together.
I feel like Georgia's going to dig up some dirt by spying on the neighbors. Maybe they'll fix Cynthia's relationship with Joe, it would be a kind of raft twist. But so far, her unwillingness to blacken Cynthia's reputation looks very worthy.
I feel sorry for Max. Apart from the ending of season 1 (although it could be understood there), she was a great friend and still defends Ginny. I may not remember what happened in season 2 very well, but Ginny had no reason to treat her like that, did she? I liked their friendship, Max helped Ginny settle into a new school, for which she gets constantly dumped and told about her life by anyone but her best friend.
@g1305927: Max is too self-centered and should always be the center of attention, even when it's not appropriate. For this reason, she's not a part of it at the moment, maybe they'll replay it again, but so far I see why Ginny leaves Max out.
@Semina: Yes, it was obvious last season. It was even discussed at the moment when they reconciled. Ginny is better this season, but I can't understand ignoring Max.
I also want to mention how Ginny has grown as a character. She is no longer a selfish little girl, but a person who thinks about others, but how do you worry about her, because now she carries everything on herself
God, Zayn and his family are so annoying. Georgia is not a saint at all, but she tried to take care of the children and do what she could for them. Of course, these were often wrong actions, but she grew up in a destructive environment and got used to this kind of problem solving. Zayn hardly participated in his child's life at all, the parents only offered to separate the mother from the child, no real help. They also say that HE was the one who suffered, even though he's the only victim here (even though she cheered me up the first season, now she's less) This is Ginny.
- a light jog, she said, it will be fun, let's cheer up. I'll beat you up. "Get up, get up - all runners are fools - I like to run. - so you're a fool It's a sweet dialogue between Max and Ginny, partly it's very vital and reminds me of my conversations with friends about running.
The "Catch-22" is mentioned at the beginning of the series. If anyone is interested, this is a paradoxical situation in which a person cannot avoid something due to conflicting rules or conditions.
The term is taken from Joseph Heller's novel Catch-22. In the book, this refers to a military aviation rule that says a pilot can avoid flying if he's crazy. However, if a pilot submits a request for suspension due to insanity, then the very fact of submitting this request proves his sanity, and he is refused suspension.
@Kinoculture: Wow, thanks for the cool info! I remembered catch 22 as a vicious circle from my university studies, but I didn't know the background about the novel, I wonder)
I think Cynthia ran out of money and couldn't pay for her husband's upkeep. And she played out these torments to end it all with someone else's hands-Georgia's hands. When she defiantly ran to her door with loud accusations and looked around like this: look how indignant I am, I was convinced of this.
Ginny bursts into the garage and starts talking about her problems Marcus humbly sits down on a stool and listens to her, putting aside his business. Milota 😍
Zion is an infantil (who may have finally grown up now, judging by his behavior) And his mom is the kind of nasty people who will smile in your face and shit themselves in three boxes behind your back and stick a knife in your back. If you think Georgia really could have chosen what Zion's mom suggested. Then you don't know such people) If she really wanted to help, and not take her granddaughter away, then she would have helped without custody :) That's all. But she always disliked Georgia and doesn't love her now, including because Georgia is white.
And I'm sorry that some commentators don't see it. Oh, that poor Zion, who was always looking for himself and didn't give a damn about his daughter, except for texting and seeing each other once a year. Valiant father, what can I say? And no, Georgia never stopped him from seeing his daughter, except for that one escape at the age of 16 (otherwise Zion would have already reminded her about it 20 times, but he only remembers that escape to her).
I barely watched it, an endless series, they'll talk about the same topic all season, as I understand it, nothing else will happen, I used to like the series, now I can't remember why…
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60And Austin, who is half a head taller than Ginny, looks very funny going to a small class.😬
I don't know any other way..
I also think Max is very worried that Ginny discusses problems with everyone except her. I noticed this back in the first episode, I wonder if they will develop this line.
her and they talked warmly on the run.
"From me?"
– Yes, it is.
💔
Probably the very words I was looking for to make someone else understand.
I'm sorry about Paul. It's all hard for him. I'm also sorry for Austin, but he's doing great, gaining strength, learning to walk with his head held high. A guy is growing up.
Ginny… Her attitude is ambiguous, but I'm glad that at least sometimes she became interested in other people, like Abby or Marcus. And not just always talking about yourself. Well, really, she's not talking about herself mostly, but about her mom) But in general, for a 16-year-old girl, she is quite conscious. And strong.
I started liking Abby more this season. Maybe she's mean, but... that's the kind of person who knows how to be sympathetic and generally be a devoted friend. She has a soul, very much so.
And by the way, it seemed that Abby (with red hair?) I like Marcus)
I always have been and always will be(?) on Georgia's side, but telling a child who is in complete disarray because of your own actions that you also wanted to escape from her, but could not, and partly it was her fault - through all the edges. Ginny is certainly not to blame for Georgia's life situation.
So far, both episodes are very sad, but good, as for me, this season is already head and shoulders above the first two.
But I don't quite understand. How are Markus' parents helping him? Ginny goes to a specialist, and Marcus? Why doesn't he take pills, people with depression can be helped now.
For me, for example, she left completely after 3 years (this is also due to therapy), and so, the pills give a chemical effect on the brain, but the thoughts do not go anywhere. It takes time and effort to heal yourself, it's very difficult.
Georgia, are you serious 😳
I feel like Georgia's going to dig up some dirt by spying on the neighbors. Maybe they'll fix Cynthia's relationship with Joe, it would be a kind of raft twist. But so far, her unwillingness to blacken Cynthia's reputation looks very worthy.
Apart from the ending of season 1 (although it could be understood there), she was a great friend and still defends Ginny. I may not remember what happened in season 2 very well, but Ginny had no reason to treat her like that, did she?
I liked their friendship, Max helped Ginny settle into a new school, for which she gets constantly dumped and told about her life by anyone but her best friend.
"Get up, get up
- all runners are fools
- I like to run.
- so you're a fool
It's a sweet dialogue between Max and Ginny, partly it's very vital and reminds me of my conversations with friends about running.
The term is taken from Joseph Heller's novel Catch-22. In the book, this refers to a military aviation rule that says a pilot can avoid flying if he's crazy. However, if a pilot submits a request for suspension due to insanity, then the very fact of submitting this request proves his sanity, and he is refused suspension.
Marcus humbly sits down on a stool and listens to her, putting aside his business.
Milota 😍
And his mom is the kind of nasty people who will smile in your face and shit themselves in three boxes behind your back and stick a knife in your back.
If you think Georgia really could have chosen what Zion's mom suggested. Then you don't know such people)
If she really wanted to help, and not take her granddaughter away, then she would have helped without custody :) That's all. But she always disliked Georgia and doesn't love her now, including because Georgia is white.
And I'm sorry that some commentators don't see it. Oh, that poor Zion, who was always looking for himself and didn't give a damn about his daughter, except for texting and seeing each other once a year. Valiant father, what can I say?
And no, Georgia never stopped him from seeing his daughter, except for that one escape at the age of 16 (otherwise Zion would have already reminded her about it 20 times, but he only remembers that escape to her).