s02e04 — Day One
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Discussion of the 4 episode of the 2 season Discuss this episode
347-i don't know, maybe they were all optimists.
Dina, of course, found the testicle very easily, yes, no one understood, no one understood :-)
-He taught you well
-He did.
The series is, of course, very morbid and quite violent, and it also keeps you in suspense all the time. that moment where they were hiding from the wolves, that moment on the train. The vinegar scene is very unexpected, quite an interesting departure from the game..... No, I wrote it exactly BEFORE she said she was pregnant.... I just wanted to praise that in the series, the fact that Ellie is famous was shown much better and this is the most important big reveal that came to the fore, but EXACTLY at this moment Dina decides to throw a pregnant bomb... Sister, please.... It's okay, the game was also bad in this regard, and even worse.
from what I can tell, in general, the chemistry between Ellie and Dina is felt, indeed the moment when she thought about shooting her was very difficult and you really believe in what she feels.
.. How much water did she drink?...
So let's get this straight, I anticipate a lot of negative comments about the whole relationship between Ellie and Dina and how much more explicit they are in the series, BUT! FIRSTLY, it's shown really plausibly; secondly, well, we all knew everything from the game; thirdly, it's even cute, and they even discussed the fact that she was pregnant and decided to divorce Ellie rather than stay safe. You've earned respect
© Kvashonkin's stand-up
the game: -I'm pregnant, don't worry, it's not from you;
And then there's such a reaction, as if she really is dad) Agatha's affair with Rio continues
Well, that's just not true.
is not canon, I'm not watching anymore
Actually, Ellie's reaction was very sweet
"we're having a baby! ..(jokingly) Isn't that Jesse's baby? You, Jessie, and I are going to have a baby! I'm going to be a dad!!"
As the main fan of the Jackson trio, I'm going to die from the images in my head where the THREE of them are raising a child
, you can make a sitcom about it.
But in one shot, she just pulls the bass string with her thumb, and the rest of her fingers don't move. It's strange, if she can play the guitar, to insert such a blunder into the finished series.
In the game, the prophetess is depicted in numerous drawings in Seattle, and these drawings, in my opinion, resemble the appearance of Handrahan.
Yes, my theory is that if you study the ENT of the game, you may not connect with it in places, but the creators of the series may well redo the ENT for themselves by changing the details, as they have done repeatedly.
Anyone who has a gun is probably called a human voter. But that's probably what they say in FEDRA. They are, in fact, an analogue of the new legitimate government after the beginning of the apocalypse. FEDRA sort of protects people, gives them jobs and food, but at the same time completely deprived them of their rights. Military dictatorship. Hence the nickname - the voters. And the WLF was originally something like rebels who disagree with the dictatorship. But in fact, this is a battle between a toad and a viper, one dictatorship will replace another.
It was FEDRA soldiers who were in the truck, and they were the ones who called the civilians voters, but they also mentioned the WLF, meaning that at that time the rebels already existed, but they had not yet been led by Isaac.
@Nemez11: there was also such a theory at first, but the trailer for the new series refutes it.
The trailer can often be misleading. You think these are shots from the present, but they're from the past.
On the contrary, I was even more convinced that Handrakhan is the prophet of Scars, and not the random woman from the beginning of the last episode. They pay too much attention to her. But we'll see soon enough. Maybe I'm really wrong and I'm just putting an owl on a globe. It's just a theory.
@Nemez11: Handrahan says in the trailer "If it's war again we're gonna need all the soldiers we have.""Again " means a new one after PHAEDRUS. So it seems to me that it's not a flashback after all. And then who knows, we'll see!
And if Ellie fights the Rat King instead of Abby, it will be a complete failure. It was an allegory of Abby's emotions and inner state. You can't just change that, imo.||
About "there was " The Rat King was there from the very beginning. He didn't show up afterwards. This is a huge mass of infected people who fused into one after they were locked in this department. It was at the very beginning of the apocalypse. But it was formed gradually, of course, but not for so long that no one noticed it before the events of the series. Therefore, we can say that Handrakhan conducts the interrogation in a flashback, but then who is the war with?
Actually, in the game during the passage of Ellie, we hear the Rat King, and Abby directly meets him face-to-face.
I liked almost all the deviations from the game this season, but the pregnancy moment turned out to be a bit too positive, although in fact it's at the wrong fucking time and makes everything much more difficult.
As expected, 7 episodes is very small, hbo has pushed themselves into the frame and now we see the results. We mixed everything that is possible in the episode.
And what happens to the color sensor is that it is bright, then super dark, it is almost invisible.
Bella max miskat continues to annoy in all aspects, absolutely nothing is felt in her game. Anyone who continues to believe that something will change, I am sorry for you.
Isabela drags the entire series after Pedro is gone.
It doesn't even make sense to compare it with the game anymore, everything looks bad even from the point of view of a regular TV series.
Kung fu from Elia is just a hand)))
I give her 10 cardiceps out of 10.
I liked the joke about the rainbow)
Jeffrey Wright🦾
I also suspect that it's the song and the band I love a-ha and all their songs 🥲 always nostalgia eh
Even the first season was generally good, but what happened in the second is unclear. Maybe they brought in Ramsay so that the criticism of the cast would overshadow the many other silly moments in the series?
And maybe it was better that way. And then, for some reason, the scars were shown ahead of time. They screwed up a potentially cool action-packed episode in which the viewer would have been as lost as Ellie. They also showed these cultists as victims that their children are being killed for minor offenses.
Playing Dina was very non-emotional for me, as Bella shows herself in the role of Ellie.
But the game Ellie was just charged with emotions, just like the serial Dina does!)
1) I smiled at Dina's joke about Ellie's joint with Luke. There was a brain ulcer for a minor ulcer.
2) The frying pan moment is creepy, I'm too empathic for torture scenes. But that's why I love TLOU.
3) There is also a moment with hangmen and a scene of stealth and strangulation (the players probably smiled nostalgically at this moment). Chief kiss, it was good👌
4) It's hard to imagine how hard it was for Dina when Ellie was bitten: her beloved is in danger of death - and you have to do it yourself, because otherwise she will turn and attack, but there is hope that the words about immunity were not a lie and that everything will work out... So that's why the bed scene was delayed: so that Dina wouldn't have any reason to be interested in Ellie's scars, and Ellie wouldn't have to talk about immunity. 😁
5) With the bed scene itself and the way Dina immediately told me about her pregnancy, imho, it came out too abruptly and awkwardly, I felt like a child who caught a bed scene while watching TV with her parents. There was also a scene with flags, "optimistic people lived here" although it was funny, it looked somehow completely detached from the atmosphere.
6) But the scene where Dina shows the pregnancy test, saying " and more, and more, and Ellie listens, saying, "what kind of tests are these anyway, I only know math tests (which, imho, in the nature of the character, I don't think anyone told her about it) - it was sweet and funny 😄
In short, I rather liked the series than not. It's dynamic, sometimes creepy, sometimes a little awkward, but still very good. 50 minutes flew by like 5.
p.s. I forgot: the moment with take on me is wonderful, I already shed tears. Bella, may her haters forgive me, has a pleasant voice. Yes, maybe the acting isn't 10/10, but I still enjoy watching her with Dina. It's a pity Joel won't see his daughter follow in his footsteps by becoming not a biological father, but a father. 😁💕
@AkellbINetvJivix: If you're talking about the events from the game, then you've played/watched the walkthroughs on YouTube, and you're surprised by Joel's murder, the lesbian storyline, and the eerily banal revenge arc."?
Are we watching the same TV series?"
Are you playing the same game as the others? Or did you think the series would play out the main points of the plot differently?
Pointed the gun, "I'm pregnant," had sex 🤝🏻
It's a bit of a cringe at the end of the episode.
Then, at the end, they took up these pens, well, somehow about nothing at all. 😁
but generally speaking, when it comes to the plot, I don't like the way it's being presented this season at all. I partly put this idea in my comment above.
It's even strange that it was leaked so quickly. Apparently, they just asked to make a cameo on acquaintance) or asked for it himself
Personally, I just rewind the sex scenes, which is also a problem for me.
Of course, the plot itself is developing dynamically, which is encouraging.
Once again, we are shown by all sides of the conflict that there is no black and white.
And a dude who seems to betray his own people and goes over to the side of the resistance doesn't seem like such a traitor to us based on his words in the car?
Yes, with us and with Jessie😅
It so happened that I saw two scenes from this series in the game version: the scene about immunity and the guitar.In the first case, I had goosebumps from the plot with masks in the game and what kind of Ellie and Dina are there, but here with the bite it's no worse. That crazy fright in the eyes of Dina and Ellie, who didn't even think there would be a question about Bae.
Well, the Take on me scene shattered me. Playing Ellie was singing somewhere out there, even to herself, I would say, right there it was right from the bottom of my heart, sincere and straight to the recipient of a very beautiful moment. Isabela and Bella are a wonderful duet that perfectly complement and look harmoniously together, despite all the shit-pouring 💘🥹
Capitol Hill🥹 Yes, girls, optimists lived there🌈🏳️🌈
As for the second line with Isaac and the scars. I do not know anything about them at all, who is worse, who is better. But the guy who was tortured aroused in me a great sense of respect, even in such a terrible way, unlike this same torturer and the kid from the beginning of the series.
And then, for some reason, the attack on Jackson was parallel + Abby told her whole story at once.
Dina is so beautiful that I miss the plot while admiring her.
In the game, Ellie was obsessed with revenge and her mission, and when Dina told her she was pregnant, she called her a burden. Here, hooray, I'm going to be a dad. If the series finale coincides with the game finale, then I don't understand how they will lead the heroine to her choice, because now she stupidly lacks motivation in her actions.
such thoughts haven't left my mind since the beginning of the second season.
my character of the serial Ellie doesn't add up at all, first some kind of fake cruelty with Joel, then susipusi with Dina - revenge seemed to fade into the background.
Here, Ellie was made softer and more normal, so to speak.
in the game, you could see the madness in one look, you knew that Ellie was fucked
irrevocably, and there was a strain and drama in it. that she's bent on revenge and won't stop at anything. and there was confidence in her actions that she would kill anyone.
here, all this has been twisted as much as possible, and there is no worry even for them.
I understand why game content is being cut off. But it can be done better than it is now. And so it turns out, some kind of fragmented plot, without the motivation of the characters, it is not visible at all.
Bella is cool, and I think her Ellie is more charming than a playful one. More human somehow.
The shelf life of the pregnancy test is 2.5 years. The epidemic began in 2003, and now the year is 2033. That is, 20 years have passed... doubtful, well okey
I guess I'm glad I didn't play the game. Because there are a lot of comments about what was wrong in the game and it was better this way. Less expectations, less disappointments 🙂
The cycle of revenge and violence in the war is well illustrated. Both sides believe that they were forced, and now they can kill children.
I feel like I'm going to replay the second part of the game after this season.
Like, they just told you about immunity. and you didn't even ask who else knows about it/how it happened/when you found out about it yourself. It's really interesting. but no, let's talk about pregnancy instead)))
I didn't like at all that the focus was shifted to this.
they made it special in the game, there was always the fear that someone would burn down Ellie's immune system, and here…
I like it much more than the game version)
It's actually a cool episode, but I'm still waiting for Abby's side to be shown more. And when will that happen?
Have you heard any rumors, what was the reason that Goblin and K`denigrated the series Fallout? Releasing videos, like this - for seven months!!!
"Who will pay for it? And they always pay." (c)
Red cynic, goblin and ixbt. The triune holy dump.
In general, it's fun to read such comments from fans of very strange cases, some of us and other female propaganda trash. Before you accuse someone of having different tastes, look in the mirror and ask yourself: are you out of your mind and is your brain completely swollen with soy? 😂
Okay, I accepted Dina in this episode solely because of the 2 minutes of romance. And she even shed a tear on the morning stage (okay, a couple of tears).
But it's still clear that they have a very small budget for big plans. The masks on the nutcrackers are clearly visible (it didn't seem for the first time in episode 1, really, cheap makeup, which was covered with lighting).
Well, of course, a lot of moments were JUST mercilessly leaked. Let's not even follow the canon (let's just forget about it), but accept the pregnancy of a girl so calmly, with whom you had only one night? Wtf?
By the way, the cupcake scene was clearly filmed by a man, because no one in their right mind would climb into the closet when you just got off the subway, dirty as pigs (even after being bitten).
In general, yes, it's all VERY frustrating. I appreciated how we were given a couple of minutes of romance (so that we would forget about how the plot was mercilessly drained). I have zero questions about the performance of the actresses, they do a great job. There are questions for the directors. Because of all this, the overall background of the series is weak.
There is a lack of this sincerity, the very thread that was built between Dina and Ellie. And you literally got into it while you were playing. And here it's like they've thrown lumps of dough into a pile.…
Episode 7/10 (+2 points for sesbian Lex, we don't need much to be happy!)
(Bella, call me… 🤙🏻)
I can't get enough of it.
At the forty-ninth minute, everything was supposed to end, everyone went home and live happily ever after. I feel like it's going to get tougher and tougher.
||P.S. Long live lesbian separatism /|
Is she really pregnant🥲
But I really smiled at the moment with "We're going to have a baby! Well...Us and Jessie"
Bella also has a beautiful voice.
🎶Taaake ooon meee, take on me
Taaake meee ooon🎶
Ellie doesn't have the right emotions. Where is the pain of Joel's recent death? Where is the anger of the man who decided to take revenge? I only see a teenager in love, on a camping trip.
And in my opinion, it's not even Bella's fault that she conveys emotions in a wrong way, but the scriptwriters who prescribed the plot for her.
I just felt sorry for the guitar, I had to put it back in the case - suddenly it would be useful to someone else.
But in any case, I am happy for Bella, success in her career, I hope she will be comfortable in her new role and age), I wish her beautiful casting partners))
- I'm pregnant.
- Hi pregnant. I'm Ellie.
But what I definitely liked was the episode where Ellie sacrificed her arm, and how Dina, without any hesitation, pointed a weapon at her. Yes, it's a harsh world, and she's used to the fact that bitten people are a mortal danger and there's no time for sentiment with them.
Bella Ramsay actually put her hand in Dina's underpants 10 seconds after she confessed to being pregnant, and Dina allowed it to be done immediately after even the immune Ellie was bitten by an infected
It's just not realistic to take this series seriously anymore
Dina is just a SWEETHEART))
I have all
I know that many people were infuriated by this deviation from the game, but to be honest, I don't see anything very critical in this episode yet – and it's so obvious that pregnancy against the background of the post-apocalypse will be a difficult ordeal for both of them. So why not give the girls, at least for one evening, an illusory idea that there may be some factors of joy ahead? I think it's best to judge this episode based on the next three episodes.
The hype around pregnancy undeservedly overshadowed the important scene with Ellie's immunity, which worked more emotionally than in the original game. It was a very tense moment where Dina could recklessly pull the trigger in the style of a Shakespearean tragedy. Isabela Merced removes all questions in this segment, having perfectly felt the moment. Jeffrey Wright was particularly pleased with the series, there was too much pressure on his part.
The only negative for me is that at times the series is too faithful to the original, as if it is being held hostage. The plot is very tied to the game locations: Ellie and Dina move through precisely recreated places, successively hiding, killing and running away. A viewer, even someone unfamiliar with the game, can easily declassify that the script follows gameplay logic.
However, this is not to say that dynamic scenes look bad. Rather, on the contrary, Ellie and Dina's desperate catch–up from the infected on the train is an excellent example of mature directing with a strong emphasis on cinematography. I see the problem rather not in the staging, but in a certain disconnect between locations and episodes. I can't say that it directly affects the quality of the story, but it doesn't always let the story unfold.
@Kinoculture: I also noticed homophobia on your text: I even sent it through the chat to ask if he helped you - he broke his whole forehead in swearing that he did not help)) probably, you're just being very careful, plus it was good in Russian at school.
It's amazing how you didn't catch the haight wave from the orthodox notidogs here, a bold punch, of course
Then, in the TV tower, she had a great opportunity to kill that man with a stealth knife, why did she start strangling him when she literally does nothing but stab everyone with a knife.
Then it's crazy to put your hand in when you have a gun, even if it's not loaded, you can put it under your mouth.
And of course tell Dina, Yes, of course you and I will do everything together when it comes to the mega dangerous outing of two little girls on the streets of a giant city inhabited by 3 groups of right and left military (but we will not see Phaedra in this timeline) and fucking sectarians. Plus, there's a crowd of infected people, and she's been pregnant for about a month and a half and two months, and she might have problems, but she stamped her foot, put her hands in her side, and said she'd go, well, what can we do about it?
What are the patients?
@eptelizer: Just a minute, could you name the sources where you read that Phaedra left in the same year that the action takes place? Because if I remember correctly, Phaedra has been missing from Seattle for quite some time. In Hillcrest, Ellie finds notes telling the story of how the locals are unhappy with WOLF, that they (the residents) believe that WOLF is now behaving like PHAEDRA. Boris, one of the locals, is a partisan against them because they killed his daughter for graffiti. || Why I think PHAEDRUS hasn't been in Seattle for quite a while: WOLF started harassing Hillcrest residents right after they gained control of the territory. All the buildings look uninhabited. Hillcrest residents did not want to leave their homes, meaning if they had been evicted only recently, the houses would have looked better/more habitable.
In the game, I don't remember any references to Phaedrus in the present tense at all, only in the past.
@eptelizer:
But we won't see Phaedra in this timeline.
the phrase "in this timeline" says that somewhere there is a timeline where PHAEDRA is (since you are talking about the series, you mean that in the game). Which raised my questions. If PHAEDRUS is not in the game or in the series, then which one will we not see in this timeline? Can we talk about if she is not in principle anywhere, not in any work?
@eptelizer: No, these are not the two timelines that you described. These are two time periods (past and future). The timeline, as you said, is a line. This is not a segment. It's a continuous line. Two timelines are when events develop in parallel. If the events are shown in the past and the future, then this is not parallel, but sequential. They are simply ** shown** in parallel for the viewer, but they occur sequentially. Timeline is not a term for indicating the viewer's perspective. If you take a documentary about the Devonian and Triassic periods of the Earth, you will get two epochs on the same timeline. No matter how you show them in the story, they happened consistently. It's the same here, the action takes place at different times, not in different timelines.
Besides, she has two of them! ;-D
Where are the scenes of the girlfriends opening the gates to the city and suffering with electricity!? They had such lovely dialogues in the game. But what about the scenes of how they took a big location and talked sweetly!? But what about the Bank where they got the holster!? We've been robbed of a lot of cute scenes.,
What kind of nonsense am I going to be a dad?
Where is the desperation when she considers Dina a burden, where is that beautiful stationary passage where they quickly make decisions the moment Ellie admits that she is pregnant. What nonsense. For what? Where is that unbridled motivation! For what? Just for what?
What a ridiculous conversation between Ellie and Dina
"I'm pregnant."
It's a mega cringe moment.
And then where did she wash her hands, etc. 🤨
- I'm an imuna
"I'm pregnant."
- Hooray, we're playing grope where's the baby
-Teeeeeeik ooooon miiiiiii
(TV series for shit-eaters))
Was there any explanation for this in the game? I just don't remember it personally.
Maybe someone knows what the joke is?
As we know who said, this is such a special California apocalypse.
If you feel like it. In ancient times, at least two horses went on a campaign. Two horses per person. And some dodgers managed to take SIX!
But another question torments me. I don't know anything. But such a rifle, with optics, can be carried like that? In a holster like that, on a horse, aiming down?
About the rifle - you can carry it))) whether it will be possible to accurately fire it later is another matter.
It's useless to look for logic in the series, let's put 4 flamethrowers on the ground in the middle of the street, let their snappers stupidly trample them. Let's build a wall, but why make a fence of inclined stakes in front of it, so that the snappers would run into them and some of them would die, and some would slow down so that it would be more convenient for us to shoot at them, and not have to hang over and shoot under the walls... Dig a moat??? It was only in the dark Ages that they did this. We are not like that in this city, we are all bright optimists here! )
In the series, Dina is ready to shoot Ellie immediately after the bite.
What happens next is kind of surreal.
TV series of the year, no other way
It's certainly strong.