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Daredevil: Born Again — s01e03 — The Hollow of His Hand

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Duration: 44 min.
Released: 11.03.202511.03.2025 15:00
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s01e03 - The Hollow of His Hand
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hammerschmiede
hammerschmiede
11 Mar 22:08 #
Is she out?
GoldenAlisia25
GoldenAlisia25
11 Mar 23:14 #
@hammerschmiede: It's almost out, You'll have to wait a bit until they upload it to the sites (I have it written that in 12 hours).
@hammerschmiede: завтра будет)
Prun_ik
Prun_ik
11 Mar 23:39 #
@hammerschmiede: in general, tomorrow 12.03. At about 5-6 in the morning
Prun_ik
Prun_ik
12 Mar 00:04 #
@Prun_ik: I wanted to write something like * oh, autocorrect
Malsagov
Malsagov
12 Mar 01:07 #
Admins, correct the release dates of the episodes already. You're done a day early)
mandrygin95
mandrygin95
12 Mar 01:26 #
@Malsagov: Well, as much as possible, everything is written correctly.The series is released on American time, as are most projects on Disney Plus.But due to the time zone difference, our release date is shifted to the night of the next day.
Hidji
Hidji
12 Mar 07:17 #
@mandrygin95: Yeah, so it's an American service linked to their time. Ours are all on MSK or nakrajak on GMT.
Нелюдь
Нелюдь
PRO
12 Mar 09:20 #
@Hidji: information about the release of episodes is taken from tvmaze.

The episode is released on the next day of the announced date there (here) at 03:00 GMT +2.
Hidji
Hidji
12 Mar 11:01 #
@Non-human: Yes, I know the time of the release and I consider the request for correction justified). Maze is an American server, there are no questions about it. They make it for themselves. It is also ideal to give the exit time by GMT, so that users, depending on their belt, have their own. I thought that's how it worked. But it was only necessary to use sarcasm about this, so the deer came running with their disadvantages))). It's too complicated, I guess.
Нелюдь
Нелюдь
PRO
12 Mar 11:25 #
@Hidji: Considering that the vast majority of users here are still waiting for voiceover, where each group has its own episode release rate, I think the admins simply decided not to bother.

Well, of course, they can write some script with a date converter from tvmaze or just a timer until the next episode, as on mydramlist. Nothing has changed in 15 years of service, it's time to accept xD
sowarineko
sowarineko
12 Mar 08:23 #
A purely judicial episode, pretty good.
kiprian_zhurov
kiprian_zhurov
PRO
12 Mar 16:53 #
@sowarineko: Initially, the whole season was filmed like this, then there were pre-shoots.
KudasaiYo
KudasaiYo
PRO
12 Mar 08:28 #
So gracefully, this Nick was taken to court, and he eventually escaped, although maybe he was run over by a guy with whom he came in a taxi.
It was predictable that the Tiger would be killed after being freed, but I can't believe that the Punisher himself is being imitated along the way or just hiding behind his name.
Нелюдь
Нелюдь
PRO
12 Mar 09:03 #
@KudasaiYo: Yes, one of the fanatic cops is under Fisk, Castle still has some kind of code.

You see, now the scriptwriters are using the death of the Tiger to get Matt back into his combat suit. But they didn't put the squeeze on this topic, there's not much weight and build-up. We went over the comparison of Tiger and DD very superficially, and how this situation affects Matt...

I don't know what's next. But I'll try to predict... For example, Fisk will leak the news that an Alarmist killed a Tiger and some camera captured the silhouette of a man with a skull on his chest. Matt will burn out and he will track down Frank, they will clap their hands (scene from the trailer) and go to knead the fanatics of the cops, somewhere in this mess a new evil Muse will begin to flash. New Yorkers will start rooting for the vigilantes again, DD and Panisher will pile on the Muse, Fisk will be removed from the post of mayor, the end.

I wouldn't be surprised if Disney couldn't help but make Vanessa frame Fisk so that Mrs. Fisk would be ready for the relaunch of Jessica Jones
KudasaiYo
KudasaiYo
PRO
12 Mar 09:19 #
@Non-human: it sounds too much like the truth, are you moonlighting as a guest writer at Disney?I
'll also add that Fisk will reveal the identity of Daredevil and they will be put in the same cell for emotional conversations and bruising)
Нелюдь
Нелюдь
PRO
12 Mar 09:29 #
@KudasaiYo: I'm pretty sure that I won't upgrade like DEI hire... I'm not allowed access.

I think there was a moment in the comics when DD's identity was revealed... They can, but I don't think they will this season. Oh damn... Then they can still call Shikhalka to protect him...
KudasaiYo
KudasaiYo
PRO
12 Mar 09:34 #
@Non-human: I would look at this, although it's hard to imagine a green woman in a serious setting, in human form it will be normal.
Ebony_Maw
Ebony_Maw
PRO
12 Mar 09:41 #
@Non-human: there are photos from the filming of the second season and Fisk is still the mayor there
Нелюдь
Нелюдь
PRO
12 Mar 09:49 #
@Ebony_Maw: Okai, well, then they'll be displaced in the second one. When AVTF fails xD
Skyscore
Skyscore
12 Mar 12:40 #
@Inhumane: Specifically, the approach of who watches the watchmen is being stolen from Alan Moore for the second time (the first was the Super-human Registration Act in Cap's sequel). Moreover, here, as the nine-inch nails sang, "copy of a copy of a copy...": in the Lindelof sequel to the Guardians, the Altrites donned Rorschach masks and began to do good. That is, in fact, now the C student is copying from a good student who copied from an excellent student.
In the context of social commentary in the spirit of Trump's time, this question is certainly not outdated, but the presentation is already slightly refined. Although, perhaps, it will seem good to those who get acquainted with the "third run" in isolation from the refrains. And in general, in reality, it also does not stop repeating itself: the Limonites seemed to be cool guys in the 90s, the Duginites were punks from philosophy, etc., but history has shown what ideology their ideas, abandoned by a strong hand, lead to...
Skyscore
Skyscore
12 Mar 12:40 #
It's also funny that Miller's Born again was released in parallel with The Guardians, but there was none of that: it was about psychological recovery, and this line is here (at least based on three episodes) still unsolved.
simple_man
simple_man
12 Mar 15:36 #
@KudasaiYo: Fisk has known since season 3 that Matt is a Daredevil.
KudasaiYo
KudasaiYo
PRO
12 Mar 15:39 #
@simple_man: Thank you, Cap. He'll reveal it to the public, I mean.
PlanePassenger
PlanePassenger
13 Mar 17:15 #
@Non-human: Well, as if they were destined to cross paths again at some stage just for the sake of a fan service. But in general, I've been talking about this since the first season of Daredevil)
mixlad
mixlad
12 Mar 21:25 #
@KudasaiYo: It seems that Bernthal was on the set of the murder scene, if I remember the merged footage correctly.
DiKEY999
DiKEY999
12 Mar 09:22 #
An interesting parallel was drawn between the White Tiger and DD in court.
Yeah, Matt said not to wear a suit anymore, in fact they'll be an easy target.
And in the end, love is not the punisher, but the police. You can't expose yourself to her, but you can throw everything at the punisher.
I thought this was a case for Matt, and when the muse appeared, he would force me to wear a DD costume, but it would be something else.another motivation.
Нелюдь
Нелюдь
PRO
12 Mar 09:37 #
@DiKEY999: With those cops, he'd have been killed without the suit. To find out his address for a cop, just press a couple of keys.
DiKEY999
DiKEY999
12 Mar 13:25 #
@Inhumane: although I thought a little, for the sake of winning and justifying, Matt revealed his identity. I don't think that if he had been acquitted, he would have been killed... although without disclosure, he would have gone to prison.
MemoryOnSmells
MemoryOnSmells
12 Mar 09:49 #
It's a good episode in which Matt Murdork opposes himself to the White Tiger, as if defending his alter ego, Daredevil.

I feel sorry for the Tiger in the end, but I didn't expect such a turn.

We are waiting for the next episode - there should be a lot of action.
@Variety · Mar 10
“Daredevil: Born Again” enjoyed a strong launch on Disney+ with 7.5 million views in its first five days of availability.

Disney+ теряет аудиторию...

И есть статистика с прошлого года:
- Ahsoka - за 5 дней - 14млн
- Percy Jackson - за 6 дней - 13.3млн
- The Acolyte - за 5 дней - 11.1млн
- Agatha All Along - за 7 дней - 9.3млн
Skyscore
Skyscore
12 Mar 13:51 #
@Non-human: probably, they shouldn't have put ads in the premium shooting range)) And the titles above caused, so to speak, an ambiguous response ahaha (although I rather liked Ahsoka. I don't know what's going on with the woke acolytes, but Dave Filoni is doing great in his microverse, I think)
dieluise
dieluise
Yesterday, 23:03 #
@Skyscore: Percy Jackson-piece of shit
UTKA_BLACK
UTKA_BLACK
PRO
12 Mar 10:17 #
Instead of the music on the credits at the end, there is the whistling of frogs, the very ones that the accused tells about at the beginning of the episode. As if everything was going to end this way.…
Hidji
Hidji
12 Mar 10:58 #
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demx
demx
12 Mar 11:25 #
This will be the break of everything when the real Punisher shows up and inserts pistons to imitators.
Guarin
Guarin
12 Mar 11:47 #
I wouldn't want the killer of a superhero to be not an Alarmist, but some kind of noname imitator, to be honest.
hxnted
hxnted
PRO
12 Mar 12:34 #
The series came in because this arc in the comics came in. After all, 100 percent is not a punisher, probably one of the cops who imitate him.
Skyscore
Skyscore
12 Mar 12:48 #
@hxnted: Which wound are you talking about? I don't remember that from Miller.
hxnted
hxnted
PRO
12 Mar 12:49 #
@Skyscore: These are the Bendis wounds 38-40 issues
Skyscore
Skyscore
12 Mar 13:04 #
@hxnted: Wasn't that where Matt himself was tried by Bendis? Sorry, I've been reading everything for a long time
hxnted
hxnted
PRO
12 Mar 13:40 #
@Skyscore: No, then everyone found out that Matt was daredevil, but he denied everything, and it was Tiger who was tried for murder during a store robbery that he did not commit.
Skyscore
Skyscore
12 Mar 14:06 #
@hxnted: everything was laughing in my head... I'll reread it, thank you
gkalian
gkalian
12 Mar 12:50 #
I wonder if this was the story that was originally filmed for six episodes, and then the showrunners changed?

It's kind of sad at the end, although I didn't think Tiger would have a good ending. And a killer with a skull on his chest is hardly a Punisher, Frank wouldn't stoop to that, so these are clearly the cops. Now that the lawyer series is over, when will we see Daredevil?
EmilD
EmilD
12 Mar 13:02 #
@gkalian: they shot 6 episodes, but not all of them were about Hector. It's kind of like the third episode of the season, it was the second episode before the reshoots, plus a sprinkling of new scenes, mostly with Fisk and his wife
Kalenov
Kalenov
12 Mar 16:41 #
@EmilD: Curiously, the storyline about the White Tiger looks quite cheerful, certainly better than what is happening with Fisk and Vanessa. Why did they decide to redo everything?🤔
They say Feige didn't like the fact that the original version had too many lawyer cases and not enough Daredevil in a suit, but personally I would watch the whole season in this format of litigation and personal drama.
EmilD
EmilD
12 Mar 19:50 #
@Kalenov: the overall storyline in these 6 episodes has not gone away, it has remained, they decided to redo the beginning, shot a new pilot, and instead of 18 episodes, make 9 and change the ending of the season. We will find out what all this will lead to only in episodes 8 and 9.
colorer
colorer
13 Mar 13:21 #
@Kalenov: As a fan of court dramas, I totally agree!
Skyscore
Skyscore
12 Mar 13:26 #
I still remember the moment when Matt walks into an empty courtroom and sits on a bench, examining a piece of his horn. In the original, he would have come to church. In general, this Catholic priest, the wise elder from the cave, is missing, he would have set Matt's mind straight.
The lecture that the White Tiger gave him after Matt burned down his identity was, in my opinion, very gentle: just remember how reverently and overly protective he was of his second identity in the original. That is, burning down an office without consulting anyone, without a person's permission, is very unethical. And it's clear that Matt isn't protecting the Tiger, it's personal for him. But it should have been all the more clear to him that it would have been so careless to reveal - to endanger the Tiger's loved ones, he would not have had the right to do so.
I don't want to blame Disney for all the deadly sins, but they omitted this subtle trait of Matt's character, I don't think he would have done that in the original show.
Skyscore
Skyscore
12 Mar 13:34 #
I have the same feeling of dissonance from Fisk's relationship with his wife. In the original, Drew Goddard took a lot of effort to suspend disbelief: already there, the story of an artist who was aware of who was in front of her seemed strained, like a moth flying into a fire. But the chemistry between the characters made me turn a blind eye to it, the contrast between the ruthless and fierce bully on the street and the sensual Wilson next to Vanessa worked very well.
Disney skipped a few steps in their arc, led us from paradise in a hut immediately into a crisis, and although they are obviously trying to preserve and take into account character traits, I can not get rid of the caricature in their dialogues.
EmilD
EmilD
12 Mar 19:53 #
@Skyscore:
> Drew Goddard took a lot of effort to stop disbelief
Well, actually, Stephen Denite was the showrunner of the first season, Goddard shot only the first two episodes and resigned as showrunner, shifting everything to Denite, but even in the first season their relationship seemed strained to me.
And here their crisis is quite logically building. She ran his empire while he was in prison, and now he's decided to kind of retire and she has nothing to do. In all respects, sooner or later a crisis comes. Conflict is always a good thing.
The Trio had similar conflicts throughout all three seasons, and it was always interesting to watch.
Skyscore
Skyscore
12 Mar 20:46 #
@EmilD: thanks for the clarification, of course, Denight and his scenario room picked up the topic after Goddard's departure in Sinister Six - but this doesn't change the essence of my point about connecting and suspending, even if Marco Ramirez wrote Vanessa. I write "stiffly, but I believed in chemistry; in the sequel - a leap, awkwardness, does not work." You write "the original is strained, the sequel is logical: people are quarreling, the trinity was also quarreling, it's interesting to look at the conflict." But no!
1. The three of them had conflicts for three seasons, we were shown how Foggy endured, Karen endured, Matt broke down, lied, rushed back and forth. There, their development can be traced to the smallest fluctuations in the relationship - and there are no questions there.
By the way, it's not always interesting - sometimes it was even a little fillery, for the sake of the old netflix strategy for 13 episodes, too much attention was paid to these eternal quarrels;
2. The very fact that a crisis comes in any relationship does not mean that you can simply lead them to cool down by hastily labeling "I was sick, I was out of business." Their bond was stronger than petty squabbles, and the reason for the quarrel should be no less strong. She is an intelligent and internally resilient woman, and here we are first offered a tirade on her behalf about how problems can be solved more effectively with money rather than blood; then she arbitrarily speaks on his behalf because she does not like to feel loss - I have a feeling that there are two people in front of me. other characters in general.
Moreover, in a vacuum, without the old show, it probably would have worked fine, but I can't see the old. And since they have recognized the old as canon, in the hope of pleasing the old fans and returning the subscribers, let them be consistent in their attitude towards the heroes.
EmilD
EmilD
12 Mar 20:56 #
@Skyscore:
2. They don't have a quarrel yet, just a different vision of solving situations. The problem is that Fisk has kind of changed, but Vanessa hasn't. I will never believe in a relationship where there is no conflict, and again I would not like to look at a character who agrees with the main character. Vanessa had this in the first seasons, and only in the third did she begin to show herself in some way. So I'm not against this kind of crisis. "In a hurry " - I don't know, I need to watch the remaining episodes, they will probably plunge deeper into their conflict, so I don't see the point in judging by the three episodes.
Skyscore
Skyscore
12 Mar 21:02 #
@EmilD: Well, I agree that a relationship without conflict doesn't work. I didn't say that - my point is that the eyeliner is bad, there is no tension and caution on Vanessa's part, there is no delicacy on Fisk's part.
about " They don't have a quarrel " and " judging by the three episodes " - their cooling is a conflict of interests. You're not going to argue that they go to family therapy when something's wrong, are you? And an open quarrel is brewing - internal squabbles with the guards are laying it. In this context, yes, the remaining episodes will be shown to us, it will be more visible there, but so far, in my opinion, it has been poorly handled.
EmilD
EmilD
12 Mar 21:09 #
@Skyscore: Well, quarrels for me are when people shout and swear at each other, but so far I don't see it. On the contrary, they are great that instead of swearing, they decided to go to a psychologist to discuss all the misunderstandings.
Skyscore
Skyscore
12 Mar 21:21 #
@EmilD: Since we've brought this up: The Gottman couple, doctors of psychology who have been involved in relationships for forty years, have a lot of work where they bring out different types of quarreling couples. There are many combinations and consequences, but at the top level, in the book Fight right (cool, I advise you) they derive three types: Avoiding, validating, and volatile. And only volatile pairs quarrel the way you described. Avoidants - thunder rages inside, calm outside, but they may not talk for months. Validating - they don't walk away from a quarrel, but they don't mess up the dishes either - they just speak respectfully. This is Vanessa./Wilson is in a reboot. But this does not mean that they are somehow worse or better than the other two types. On the contrary, the Gottmans conclude that such couples can quite often sacrifice their interests in order to avoid heat, but, unlike escalators, they have a cumulative potential for explosion. In short, everyone quarrels in different ways.
noir_character
noir_character
PRO
12 Mar 14:07 #
@Skyscore: I completely agree that such an act (the sudden disclosure of the White Tiger) is most unusual for a Netflix Matt. I don't know how it was in the comics, but he really put an even bigger target on the backs of Hector and his family with this action (which he always feared as much as possible + after Foggy's death, it would seem, he should understand this even more deeply).

I'm surprised that the angry copycat cops (I don't believe it's Frank) just killed the Tiger himself-we can say that they didn't do much.
simple_man
simple_man
12 Mar 15:41 #
@Skyscore: He would have gone to church, but he was trying to kill a man. After that, Matt would not dare to cross the threshold of the church for a long time.
shuey
shuey
13 Mar 16:55 #
@Skyscore: Now the courtroom is his church. It's a good moment
PlanePassenger
PlanePassenger
13 Mar 17:28 #
@shuey: by the way, in general, the American court is sooo much like a church in its interior, in a sense they are connected, God's judgment, an oath on the Bible sometimes and all that.
Skyscore
Skyscore
12 Mar 13:43 #
Actually, rip tiger!

The paradox of cities:
Even if it's Ragnarok, you still have to go to work in the morning,
Life, having gained momentum, causes bloody vomiting.
Tanks, infantry, bunkers...
there's a crowd of frostbitten people around the corner,
a white tiger will tear the boat to shreds,
So don't mess with your head"
Jmann
Jmann
12 Mar 13:54 #
A little sad. It's clear what the parallels are, but still. They built a tiger build-up, stories about the amulet, don't wear a costume - as a result, the man put on and immediately stupidly died out of the blue. They didn't even show him in action. The plot of Fisk and Vanessa is completely separate from everything else. It catches my eye that we're watching clips of footage and still footage from an old show that was canceled.
EmilD
EmilD
12 Mar 20:23 #
@Jmann:
Fisk and Vanessa's couch is completely separate from everything else. It catches my eye that we're watching clips of footage and still footage from an old show that was canceled.

No, this plot was just in the original version and it wasn't deleted anywhere, it's just that all the scenes were reshot with the actress who played Vanessa in the original series.
Jmann
Jmann
13 Mar 12:48 #
@EmilD: >>This storyline was just in the original version and it wasn't deleted
anywhere, so I'm saying that we're watching it, watching an old canceled show that feels completely out of place.
EmilD
EmilD
13 Mar 20:34 #
@Jmann: But they didn't cancel anything, lol, they decided to keep the old footage, but hired a new showrunner to take a different path.
Luc1
Luc1
PRO
12 Mar 14:07 #
Well, yes.... You just think that Fisk is correcting himself, but he turns out to be a hypocritical piece of shit. I also didn't do it under pressure, but just on a whim. It's so corny.
And the punisher was brought in with the most direct moral compass, which should not be used here.
noir_character
noir_character
PRO
12 Mar 14:20 #
Overall, the series seemed to be quite good, but this chaoticness in the script is very noticeable from the mixture of materials from the old and new teams + the predictability of the plot.

I liked the trial itself - it was interesting to watch Matt as a lawyer again, especially in a case so close to him with many parallels. But I personally didn't have enough time to reveal the character of the White Tiger to empathize with him properly - I wanted to learn more about him, about his powers and amulet, to see his alter ego in action at least. And then they didn't have time to get attached, and he was already killed (which was very expected; like that, his killer was clearly not Frank Castle).

Well, we are waiting for the return of the Devil of Hell's Kitchen - apparently, this will be the main trigger for Matt.
EmilD
EmilD
12 Mar 20:22 #
@noir_character:
> This chaoticness in the script is very noticeable from the mixture of materials from the old and new teams + the predictability of the plot.

We don't even know what exactly could have been mixed up here, but people have already decided everything for themselves, lol. And now it's being criticized. As far as I understand, if there were any significant changes, there would be a new screenwriter in the credits. This will be the case, for example, in episode 4. There are two screenwriters, a new one and an old one.

The only changes in this series, if I'm not mistaken, are the cast changes. Vanessa was originally played by another actress, and already at the filming stage, all the scenes with her were reshot with Ayelet Zorer, who played Vanessa in the original series. Before the reshoots, she was played by Sadrine Holt.
Skyscore
Skyscore
12 Mar 20:50 #
@EmilD: I didn't keep a candle about the old and new team - but this leapfrog is remembered not because it is so fundamental, but because it feels like a patchwork blanket. It is clear that such a blanket and one screenwriter could sew, without any permutations
EmilD
EmilD
12 Mar 21:07 #
@Skyscore: people write about it because they think that if it turned out badly, it means that it's because of the reshoots, without even knowing if it's true or not. If people didn't know about the reshoots, then they definitely wouldn't write this. It is known that episodes 2 through 7 remained almost unchanged by 90-95%, because they managed to shoot a lot of material before the creative reboot.
noir_character
noir_character
PRO
12 Mar 22:34 #
@EmilD: I don't need to know about the fact of reshoots or a change of team to see the confusion or fragmentary narrative in the script. My friend, who didn't know anything about it at all, for example, was left with exactly the same impressions from the first 2 episodes)

Even without this information, the incoherence of several points is striking, the plot holes in terms of the far-fetched motivation of some characters, the obvious difference in the quality and style of shooting action scenes, etc. We have already written about this above and in previous episodes.

I'm not putting an end to the series and I'm not saying which episodes and story arcs were reshot and which were not. And I'm not saying that everything is completely terrible and won't change in future episodes - I still hope so.
sai_
sai_
12 Mar 14:29 #
Hopefully, in the next episode, when it turns out that the white tiger is dead, Matt will find out that the punisher is somehow connected with all this and will go figure it out. I just can't wait for Castle to show up. I'm just as sad for the white tiger, they just showed up, told his tearful story, showed him what a good man he is, even though he knew that his death would be necessary, but still it's a shame for him.
Luc1
Luc1
PRO
13 Mar 13:03 #
@sai_: I still can't figure out what the punisher has to do with it. He kills, of course, but he has a moral compass. And here either he has a sect of witnesses or they want to frame him.
As far as I remember, he doesn't kill for drugs and deals. He only kills murderers.
Cesc
Cesc
12 Mar 14:34 #
Head off the ending...
YeOlde_Monk
YeOlde_Monk
PRO
13 Mar 09:25 #
@Cesc: I would even say brain drain *ba-dum-tss*
GeistLuft
GeistLuft
PRO
12 Mar 14:52 #
What do we have here, Morales? When's Miles going out?"
PlanePassenger
PlanePassenger
12 Mar 15:27 #
I don't really understand why it was necessary to mention the amulet in court. Would he have told you about kryptonite if he was defending Superman? In general, it didn't affect anything, of course, but it was still kind of stupid.
GeistLuft
GeistLuft
PRO
12 Mar 16:25 #
@PlanePassenger: Matt also said that if he was going to really attack people, he would put on an amulet that gives strength to make sure he does things, and would not go attacking without everything having a chance to fail.
PlanePassenger
PlanePassenger
12 Mar 20:46 #
@GeistLuft: I understand that, it makes sense at the moment, but in fact he reveals his secret only in order to win the case. And it was just so important, was it the last decisive argument? He doesn't care that he might be in danger later because of this. There was just not enough time that before killing him, the amulet would have been torn off so that he could not put up proper resistance.
kobiii
kobiii
PRO
12 Mar 16:04 #
It was a great episode, I liked the trial, but the ending of the story was predictable. The moments when Matt holds a piece of helmet are also cool, I think he will only wear the costume after a couple of episodes.

We could have shown more scenes with the White Tiger, but I think they did the right thing by focusing on Hector himself. The parallel with Matt was well shown, and although he warned Hector, he still put on the costume (it's who I am). The actor did a great job, although only a couple of episodes with him, but it turned out to be an interesting character. As I understand it, this is his last role, it's good that the plot with him was not deleted after the reshoots. rip.

There's also a plus sign for the sounds of frogs in the credits.
SerjBar
SerjBar
12 Mar 16:06 #
So, it seems the time has come to start reading comics! Gentlemen, who knows how to read correctly? What is the order, which authors? I've never read comics at all, I don't even know where to start. I ask for your advice!
GeistLuft
GeistLuft
PRO
12 Mar 16:33 #
@SerjBar: I can't say for the order, but I definitely recommend the Daredevil series from Bendis, the most gorgeous comics in drawing and content
, this serial story of the White Tiger was shown there.
kiprian_zhurov
kiprian_zhurov
PRO
12 Mar 17:00 #
@SerjBar: just start reading any volume, it seems to have been translated into Russian almost everything.
But if you've never read comics at all, then it will be difficult for you to get used to the presentation, it seems to me.
In general, go to the giksity website, there are more than one article there in connection with the release of the series, including chronologies and the best episodes.
kiprian_zhurov
kiprian_zhurov
PRO
12 Mar 16:56 #
Well, here, as with the scene from episode 1 with Foggy and Karen, there is clearly a re-shoot with Ayala's murder
Only here the reason was precisely the fact that the actor died, and he was so charismatic, the second punisher, but calmer.
Most likely, then one of his relatives will wear a suit.
Female character
EmilD
EmilD
12 Mar 19:57 #
@kiprian_zhurov:
> Clearly a remake of Ayala's murder

No, it was the same in the comics. Daredevil defended him, and then he was killed.
al_topchiy
al_topchiy
PRO
12 Mar 19:05 #
GonReborn
GonReborn
PRO
12 Mar 19:42 #
It was funny how Matt defended him, as if he was partly justifying himself for himself, and he was presenting his beliefs about the correctness of his actions through Hector. But the end is strange in the sense that Hector couldn't not wear a suit for one day? I could have sat quietly for a while.
EmilD
EmilD
12 Mar 20:29 #
It's a very good episode, although the ending is a bit predictable. The scene with Matt coming into an empty courtroom is very beautiful, and the mention of Foggy is heartwarming.

People who use their incredible senses to determine which scenes were shot before and which are currently filming are very funny. I've been closely following the filming information before and after the creative reboot, and this is one of the episodes that has remained virtually unchanged. Because back in 2023, there were leaks about Foggy's death, the Fisk family consultations with a psychologist, the trial of the White Tiger, and corrupt cops who use the Punisher symbol.

Are we waiting for Bernthal's return in the next episode?
Skyscore
Skyscore
12 Mar 20:53 #
@EmilD: We are waiting for the Punisher!
mixlad
mixlad
12 Mar 21:17 #
I am very glad that so much time is devoted to court sessions in the Disney version. That's what I really missed in the Netflix series. So I like the sequel much more than the last 3 seasons.
LanaLuna
LanaLuna
PRO
12 Mar 22:27 #
a great series. Several times I really wanted to rewind and find out how the tense moment would end, because it was very nervous. well, this tiger is certainly not particularly smart, well, at least make yourself a new costume and go on vigilante, what are you doing in your old one that everyone knows now?? I feel very sorry for his wife and their unfulfilled dreams(

by the way, the joke is, the guy who was the prosecuting attorney seemed very familiar, and he played a completely different character in Jessica Jones))
сралия
сралия
13 Mar 02:19 #
Swear to God THAT'S NOT THE PUNISHER
equalscores
equalscores
13 Mar 03:00 #
As much as Frank won't like it, I can't wait.
Paramelion
Paramelion
13 Mar 03:16 #
I have a weakness for court histories. They really liked the series.

It is a pity, of course, that the white tiger was not enough. Interestingly, this is because he didn't have time to finish all the filming, or they just wanted to finish his story. I was hoping to show it in action, but apparently we won't see it. Only if his daughter doesn't continue his business.

While I read all the comments, I realized that people are more concerned about the comparison with the Netflix version than the series itself.
avafozzui
avafozzui
13 Mar 08:48 #
It's a great episode, intense and without much action. But here's the finale... Damn, it's a pity chela (
lzhezhaba
lzhezhaba
13 Mar 09:06 #
And now think about it, or is it a setup from Fisk)
Tigermarimo
Tigermarimo
13 Mar 13:06 #
Somehow it would have been better if the Tiger's case had been given to the avocados, and at the end of this episode both he and Foggy would have been killed, and this combination of injustice would have served as an impetus for Matt to return to the vigilante ranks.
So far, it's going briskly, but predictably, and somehow, compared to Netflix, it's a little shallow or something.
henrywayat
henrywayat
13 Mar 15:53 #
They couldn't help but end on a depressing note, of course. Now the amulet will go to Ave Ayala like in the comics?
plalex
plalex
13 Mar 19:41 #
Are you sure I'm watching the new Daredevil and not "Better call Murdock"? It seems that the series was reshot, a showrunner was hired, but there are almost no changes from what was filmed before. The show is called "Daredevil," but there's no Daredevil in it, that's cool. 👍
bazatron
bazatron
13 Mar 20:17 #
It was 100% Frank Castle.
Knowing Netflix is a common lure that has already been in the comics a dozen times.
Fisk hired another villain who simply put on such a T-shirt, lit up on cameras and killed a White Tiger to blame the Punisher for everything and push through a law banning masked avengers.

But the way a White Tiger walked down the street in a suit is just some kind of Spanish shame...
he doesn't have super hearing, super speed, or impenetrable skin.
Gangs in Hell's Kitchen don't go around without a gun in their belt.
And how did two policemen on the subway end up without a service record?
EmilD
EmilD
13 Mar 22:21 #
I came across this information in one of the public sites.

"Many people naturally began to have questions, they say, but what, in fact, has changed in comparison with the old version of "Born Again". So I've put together a short list for you, both based on insiders and official information. That's the most basic thing, without taking into account any minor additional scenes.

• The pilot is entirely the work of a new creative team, whose goal was to create the necessary context for the already filmed material. The eighth and ninth episodes are also completely new, as they involve Karen Page, The Marked One, and the Punisher.

• Any episode that grows out of this context, such as a scene in an empty courtroom, is a reshoot.

• Inserts with BiBi Urich's reports and panoramic shots of New York were the idea of the new authors, with the desire to create a kind of separate character from New York with its own unique face.

• All episodes with Vanessa are either new or re—shot with the same script. Before the strike, another actress played her role, but with the resumption of filming, Ayelet Zurer returned.

• The finale of the second and third series is a reshoot. We can also say that almost all the action with the Muse, and therefore most of the plot with him in the next series, is reshoots, since there are already photos behind the scenes of the series on the network and in the same location where the fight with the Muse will be, you can see the stunt director Philip Silver, who came only after the creative reboots.

• The Punisher line has been expanded and expanded. In the old version, he was essentially a cameo or an episode, but with the reshoots, the central theme was his symbolism, which is used by corrupt cops, and his appearances are not limited to one or two episodes, as the Punisher returns in the finale.

• The new creative team introduced a violent scene in the series closer to the finale, which they feared the studio bosses would not let into the final cut. According to some reviewers, having already watched the entire season is something on the level of "Terrifying" brutality."
Социофоб
Социофоб
14 Mar 00:58 #
The series is excellent at the expense of the court . The ending is predictable.

But I don't think it's a punisher, otherwise it's stupid.
Akkordos
Akkordos
14 Mar 02:13 #
Well, pleased, pleased)
I watched 3 episodes at once, that's why I'm writing just now.
Yes, there is definitely a difference in the approach to the series, but nevertheless, this is something good against the background of what Marvel has had recently. Therefore, yes, personally, I am glad to see the return of one of the most suitable superhero series.
In general, the plot is, of course, crumpled: everything is developing too rapidly, there are a lot of questions about Fisk's behavior (I still have the impression that he is some kind of plasticine and inanimate - in the old series he was the most alive of all the living...heh), Foggy was leaked a little early (but, again, I've already seen the theory about 468, so who knows), etc.
However, there are also enough positive aspects here.
There was information that the Punisher would be shown, and then, lo and behold, his branch would somehow be expanded... Well, these are dreams, of course.
I'm really looking forward to further developments.
I hope Marvel doesn't shit themselves this time. It would be a pity to lose such a title.
DarkJoker
DarkJoker
14 Mar 19:02 #
The most amazing thing is that the cop stayed alive after Matt hit his head on the floor.
natalieatem
natalieatem
14 Mar 22:29 #
It's not strange that the prosecution didn't speak out in court at all, but what was the motive for the attack on the police in general? I was just walking, and I think I'll push this one under the train. 🫠
IgorShepard
IgorShepard
15 Mar 18:23 #
@natalieatem: They read out murder in the first and second degree.
That corrupt cop actually made up a whole story, they say, he came out of nowhere and started beating.
natalieatem
natalieatem
15 Mar 18:30 #
@IgorShepard: it was true, but why would he do it all of a sudden, there must be some kind of motive in these actions. It usually happens that way.
KudasaiYo
KudasaiYo
PRO
15 Mar 18:43 #
@natalieatem: They don't need a motive if there's a witness who allegedly saw everything, especially a cop.
dashamrykalo
dashamrykalo
14 Mar 23:26 #
There is a lack of realism in court. in one episode, the whole case was closed. no tension. I liked the last series so much, because it stretched over episodes, and other plots ran in parallel, and because of this it was clear that this case was not fast, plus it was written perfectly and did not bother. but there's nothing about it at all. and there is no special emotional reaction from the ending, since we did not recognize this character, did not get into it and did not get attached. The 40-minute episode is complete nonsense, and there are 9 more episodes in total in the season. mde. the minor caste, by the way, is non-existent. zero charisma + again, we are not introduced to these characters. they are poorly spelled out (rather not spelled out at all), and because of that they are boring 🙃
id21405170
id21405170
15 Mar 03:19 #
The series with the trial turned out to be quite interesting. After killing the white tiger, we are waiting for the return of daredevil in a suit!!!
nemocandance
nemocandance
15 Mar 22:31 #
Yeah, Disney+...
Still, it wasn't worth overstating expectations, I guess I'll wait until all the episodes are released.
AngelMaker
AngelMaker
Yesterday, 13:22 #
I still didn't understand the hardcore masturbation on this attempt to copy the original series.

Except for the fight scene with the Marked Man, there is nothing to watch in the series.
It's just forced shit.
At its core, it still resembles the Hulk Woman, only about Murdoch.

Well, I won't say anything about Foggy's murder and the fact that Fisk was made a whiner.
In general, Disney is such a Disney.
AlenaVarz
AlenaVarz
Yesterday, 14:15 #
I love procedurals, so this series is really over the top.
But I agree with those who write about the overwhelming feeling of subtle dissonance with the Netflix Matt. There was a tear or something, a multidimensionality, but now there is no depth. I hope I'm wrong, and then they'll give it to us.
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