s02e04 — Ever Been to Ghorman?

Andor — s02e04 — Ever Been to Ghorman?

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Release Date: 29.04.2025 15:00
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Cassian and Bix adjust to a Luthen safehouse. All eyes are on Ghorman. Wilmon visits Saw Gerrera.

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Discussion: Season 2, Episode 4
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simple_man
simple_man
30 Apr 2025, 08:31 #
It's nice to see another good actor in the clip - Richard Zammel, who played a fascist vampire in the TV series Strain. This time, it's from the other side, from the side of the people, from whom the fascists are literally sucking all the juices, ironically.
рауль_дюк
рауль_дюк
01 May 2025, 14:43 #
@simple_man: Tarantino also played a fascist in bastards, and Donna Donowitz taught him to play baseball.
Doctor_13
Doctor_13
02 May 2025, 12:16 #
@simple_man: Yes, we remember him
Nog
Nog
30 Apr 2025, 11:42 #
I think we've been shown something that will make So Guerrera so crippled in the film.
fluffyevil
fluffyevil
01 May 2025, 04:59 #
@Nog: We already told you many years ago. The Guardians of the whills book is about him, Baz, and Chirrut.
kate_archer
kate_archer
04 May 2025, 12:39 #
@fluffyevil: Imagine, there are people who recognize only the T-canon. 🙄
fluffyevil
fluffyevil
04 May 2025, 21:06 #
@kate_archer: I can imagine it perfectly. There are a lot of different types of people in our fandom. Continuing to divide the canon into levels 11 years after the introduction of the mouse, one universe and the new continuity are not even the strangest.
Nog
Nog
04 May 2025, 23:10 #
And also try to imagine that there are people who do not catch every bit of information about the universe and do not read every single book that has been published, especially not even translated.
fluffyevil
fluffyevil
05 May 2025, 20:42 #
@Nog: Again, I can imagine it perfectly. I understand them. Those that are divided into canons and so there is no broken mouse ent.
Why is there such a jolt from my comment? In Exile, he is crippled and weak because his legs were blown off by an explosion six months before, as described in the novel.
kate_archer
kate_archer
09 May 2025, 12:58 #
@fluffyevil: okay, I'm not going to divide into canons (everything has been divided for a long time, long before me, I just used a ready-made name for what suits me) and I'll say the same thing much longer:
I recognize what happened within the framework of the universe of sounds only what was shown to me on on the screen of a movie theater or video player. Everything else doesn't exist until someone on the screen at least mentions it. Everything else is legends, rumors, and speculation. And what is written in any book does not exist. It's like being overheard in a bazaar.
fluffyevil
fluffyevil
09 May 2025, 18:37 #
@kate_archer: As I said, I'm used to the variety of people who go. Your rejection is your problem. And these events are still canon.
kate_archer
kate_archer
09 May 2025, 20:37 #
@fluffyevil: Well, for me, those who have gone are those for whom this is a canon.
fluffyevil
fluffyevil
09 May 2025, 23:58 #
@kate_archer: Then you fall into the category of headcounters, and the most beaten down ones. From the series * the author was wrong*. But then again, that's solely your problem. Well, and lulz for others.
Skyscore
Skyscore
PRO
20 Jul 2025, 16:54 #
@fluffyevil: I remember from the foul that arguing with you is banging against the wall, but I'll leave a comment.

Let's assume you're right, and the "legends" casually named by the mouse are canon. Then your "goers" and the "lulz of others" discredit the hardcore fan camp. The camp of those dudes and dudes who don't assert themselves as the smartest guy in a room, but read books based on their fans, build connections, and dig into the world.

Although I would call Kate's position that hardcore fans are crazy just as inadequate. But it's your fault, because obviously her post is emotional, a defensive reaction to yours.

And then what is adequate, from my point of view? The understanding that Lucas is not a god descended from heaven, but a smart man, a businessman who gathered the universe, attracting people of varying degrees of talent - graphomaniacs and cool science fiction writers. People who have given up their ambitions, their worlds, in order to be a piece of the puzzle in a multibillion-dollar empire. Someone because of their great love for the franchise, someone because of the money - it's just like in life.

To put it mildly, whether to consider legends canon or not is not Anakin's choice between the Sith and the Jedi. We don't have to choose at all, we read damn entertaining books and watch movies - our lives don't depend on it.
Skyscore
Skyscore
PRO
20 Jul 2025, 16:57 #
This is despite the fact that Andor's assumed seriousness seems atonal to me, and I do not share his enthusiasm. But I wouldn't put those who don't like my position in some camp of non-violent fans.

As an analogy, I've read several dozen books on waha, and I'd come to howlong Tube and start self-sacrificing in front of fans of our Oulkats or Sabers that they didn't smell gunpowder and were generally shallow dudes - not that we're sharing a cow, damn it.

The remark about vakha is also relevant because there is a separate layer of guys who literally perceive the glorification of the emperor, as a rule, they coincide with the layer of subscribers of historical channels in VK and soyuzodrochers - an easy target for criticism, that is, easier than conventional fans of "Acolyta", spherical and in a vacuum, or whatever you are there They wrote
User of MyShows
User of MyShows
19 Aug 2025, 20:53 #
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Paramelion
Paramelion
01 May 2025, 00:05 #
In general, the series is normal.
It's a good thing they didn't take long to infiltrate the rebels.
Tok did not understand why to focus on Andor's dissatisfaction with the new business trip, if in the next scene, without any moral dilemmas, he calmly gathers and leaves?
Henry_White
Henry_White
11 May 2025, 23:29 #
@Paramelion: I think this is another way to show that, in addition to fighting the empire, his loved ones are also important to him. Last time, he flew away and lost a friend. That's why he doesn't want to leave Bix alone right now. However, their mission is important to him, as well as to others, and to Bix, so I don't see an option where he could refuse. And all the moral dilemmas have already been discussed throughout the series, so I think it was right to put aside another such discussion about the importance of what is happening.
AlexRagnar
AlexRagnar
PRO
01 May 2025, 01:26 #
Gorman's language is a hellish mix of German and French.
fluffyevil
fluffyevil
01 May 2025, 05:03 #
@AlexRagnar: This is literally the leitmotif of the French resistance against the Abwehr.
suslya
suslya
31 May 2025, 18:56 #
@fluffyevil: It reminded me more of Italian, against Mussolini.
Doctor_13
Doctor_13
02 May 2025, 12:17 #
@AlexRagnar: Yes, I noticed it too.
Chantinets
Chantinets
01 May 2025, 14:36 #
Was I the only one who noticed how the guards were watching Anakin's race from episode 1?
kingforthesirens
kingforthesirens
01 May 2025, 16:57 #
@Chantinets: не один)
Stolengrad
Stolengrad
PRO
28 May 2025, 23:48 #
@Chantinets: Can I have some time?
Pasternag
Pasternag
31 May 2025, 22:17 #
@Stolengrad: 22.17
Stolengrad
Stolengrad
PRO
31 May 2025, 22:47 #
@Pasternag: Thanks)
Justuserservice
Justuserservice
02 May 2025, 10:55 #
Boring and depressing
u1650424
u1650424
02 May 2025, 19:17 #
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Justuserservice
Justuserservice
02 May 2025, 19:23 #
@u1650424: I thought that the content of the first three episodes could be told in one, well, in two at most. And then you watch it, nothing changes, it's delayed) probably the retelling on YouTube will be easier to watch later and not waste time.
u1650424
u1650424
03 May 2025, 18:19 #
@Justuserservice: вы правы
pavluxa1512
pavluxa1512
19 Jul 2025, 00:51 #
@Justuserservice: Thanks for that comment! The third episode completed the arc after the boring first two, and then the drudgery began again.
DoctorSleep
DoctorSleep
09 Sep 2025, 16:06 #
@Justuserservice: I went to write the same comment, but I thought many people wouldn't support it, but I see yours and the fact that they support your opinion - I understand that after all, most people aren't exactly thrilled, so far. I don't know what's next.
Doctor_13
Doctor_13
02 May 2025, 12:17 #
I didn't quite understand the episode. Who killed whom, what is it all about. It feels like the season was supposed to start with this episode.
rybak
rybak
28 May 2025, 05:12 #
@Doctor_13: The series begins with "one year later." That is, Cassian and Bix had been running Luthien's errands for one year. At one of them, Cassian had to kill an outsider to keep Bix from betraying him. Bix has PTSD with hallucinations. Both about this murder and about her torture in the first season on Ferrix.
Yuven
Yuven
02 May 2025, 12:50 #
Does it seem like a terrible burden to me alone?
u1650424
u1650424
02 May 2025, 19:18 #
@Yuven: they're pulling just like the series Shelter, they have a new fashion like this
alexander444
alexander444
09 May 2025, 15:37 #
@Yuven: No, it's very depressing.
robazarov
robazarov
27 Jul 2025, 17:55 #
@Yuven: not just you. I watched the first season in one go, but here it is... I don't even believe it's the same series. I'm very surprised, but I still hope it gets more interesting.
Virgil_Maro
Virgil_Maro
02 May 2025, 17:06 #
the season is, of course, less dynamic than the first, but it breaks my heart when I think about how Bimo is waiting for Cassian right now (((
GoldenAlisia25
GoldenAlisia25
PRO
03 May 2025, 04:53 #
When Cyril's mother said that he had left Dedra, I was already afraid that it was true, and my beloved antagonists broke up (I was even glad when it turned out that they were still together, even though they were still bastards)
BESToloch
BESToloch
03 May 2025, 14:10 #
It's just a great episode. The first three for me were still on 4, but here they are all 5.

About the dynamics: Andor was stringy and down-to-earth in the first season, and that's his charm/style, etc. This time, Disney decided to show 3 episodes at a time, which helps to get involved and relive the planned movie experience.
Choly_Cavel
Choly_Cavel
04 May 2025, 09:37 #
Happy Star Wars Day, friends!

I understand why Disney gives out three episodes each. Because for fans like me (I still love ZV for vj-vj and piu piu with a light plot), 50 minutes of Bla-Blandor would be too much if only the 4th episode was released and wait a week for the next one, hoping for action.
Spacefalcon
Spacefalcon
05 May 2025, 12:36 #
On the phrase "careful, he's an imperial spy," of course I got carried away
It's a wonderful episode, beautifully shot, and the tension is building. Knowing what awaits Gorman, we are introduced to the situation in a slow and detailed way in order to make it even more painful in the end. And the whole spy thing, the excitement, the tense conversations in the back streets, the secrecy, the lies

Cassian and Bix, my heart aches for them, my dysfunctional husband and wife 💔
TristisOris
TristisOris
08 May 2025, 20:01 #
Seriously. they've been in the resistance for who knows how long, and the world around them isn't a pink rainbow in general, but they're sitting there whining that they killed a man and how hard it is. What's for kindergarten.
Stolengrad
Stolengrad
PRO
28 May 2025, 23:50 #
@TristisOris: They're just people. That's how they work
TristisOris
TristisOris
29 May 2025, 09:01 #
@Stolengrad: I've never met a whining military man. The whole story is based on wars, there were no psychotherapists in Caesar's legions.
shubkin
shubkin
20 Jun 2025, 19:27 #
@TristisOris: only Cassian works for a long time. And his murder doesn't bother him at all.
alexander444
alexander444
09 May 2025, 15:39 #
It's depressing even at one and a half speeds. Where did the French come from?! The bottom 🙈
Kosseff
Kosseff
09 May 2025, 23:54 #
On the 4th episode, I gave up. Suddenly I realized that I was not interested in the universe of sounds from the word at all. The best thing about her was Harrison Ford.
PlanePassenger
PlanePassenger
10 May 2025, 18:57 #
The motif of the song sung in the streets reminded me of "May there always be Sun, may there always be sky!"))
loving_w
loving_w
11 May 2025, 18:35 #
what a touching scene between Andor and Bix at the end. I respect that they continue to show how she was broken by the torture from the first season, in other series she would have survived it all through the episode.
sf-ram
sf-ram
PRO
13 May 2025, 18:26 #
Gorman pigeons are peculiar)
kroshkakoshkaru
kroshkakoshkaru
01 Sep 2025, 22:59 #
@sf-ram: They are very similar to the Gormanians themselves - they are just as pompous and dumb 🤷🏻♀️
Berion26
Berion26
PRO
17 May 2025, 20:05 #

As an arachnophobe, I didn't like Gorman at all.
Now it's Wilmon's turn to be captured by a gang of guerrillas.

Collecting Mon Mothma's votes is so familiar after watching a bunch of ameras. It's been watered. TV series,

Maybe Bix is addicted to death sticks. They were just being offered to Obi-wan.😆
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AA3097ZP5b0
- Do you want to buy some dope?
"You don't want to sell dope."
- Uh... I don't want to sell dope...
- You want to start a new life.
- I want to start a new life!

Andor's apartment looks like Deckard's apartment from Blade Runner 1982.
and again, rain, night - tech noir
Berion26
Berion26
PRO
17 May 2025, 20:10 #
@berion87: nice apartment near Andor. on the surface. unlike Cyril's mom's apartment.
(I was surprised that the sun appeared there at all.😔)
well, the house of the Gestapo officer Dedra is of course higher. or Senator Mon's mansion. (on vukip. it is indicated that this is the embassy of Chandrila) - Dear, we are asked how many hours a day we admire the view from the window. - It would be worth it. I know. Not enough.
And a hundred pounds of neighbors from below and above do not bother me.
I would like to live on Coruscant. on the lower. It won't be long. On the upper ones for a longer time
Oliverell22
Oliverell22
18 May 2025, 01:11 #
Please remind me. Is the Gorman Massacre realized somewhere on the screen? I'm a little confused about the dates. It was in 18 BBY, and in a year from now, that is, in 2 BBY, the Corellian Agreement will be signed... Has it been shown somewhere?
Oliverell22
Oliverell22
18 May 2025, 01:25 #
And no matter how many SV projects I've watched, I still can't figure out how So Guerrera turned from a guy from VK into this crazy So, whom we see here and in Rogue 1.
Hidji
Hidji
18 May 2025, 03:43 #
@Oliverell22: There is no German Massacre or injury of Guerrera anywhere on the screen. In fact, the date in the GR area is only affected by the last season of the animated series Clone Wars and the Defective batch, if I'm not mistaken. But there's nothing like that in them. And there's only one book about the history of Co.
Oliverell22
Oliverell22
18 May 2025, 19:42 #
@Hidji: "The rebels" more.
Hidji
Hidji
18 May 2025, 20:22 #
@Oliverell22: No, no, no, the rebels have been starting for 8 or 6 BBY, I don't remember exactly. In fact, there are events going on there in parallel with Andor. Perhaps some of the plots of the Tales are from that period, but they are too personalized in terms of content and can be ignored.
Kutensky
Kutensky
21 May 2025, 08:24 #
This granny fits into Palpatine's Squads, if you know what I mean.
JR13
JR13
27 May 2025, 17:55 #
In the beginning, when Cyril said that people do not threaten the empire and they are good, I thought maybe he had changed in a year, but it turns out not, he was pretending, that bastard.
MatrosKris
MatrosKris
09 Jun 2025, 17:46 #
Damn, I understand why many people like Andor, but I'm so sad(
axeland1
axeland1
16 Jun 2025, 01:12 #
This episode had a very poignant thought with visualization - the gif "And give this man a shield" from the Avengers, so, "And let this man film the Mass Effect," i.e. Gilroy and his team! For some reason, I think it would be very cool in this format. It would have gone straight in. Optimal action/conversation balance.

According to the series, I watched it in one go, even though there were conversations. Very interesting) A very tricky game on the planet of beetles from the imperials, I think in the next episodes the main machach will unfold there) I went to watch the next episode)
OlgaFom
OlgaFom
PRO
20 Jul 2025, 12:47 #
What a drag.. It was well shot, no doubt about it, but what about the narration/plot? Why is everyone praising the series so much, yes it's not bad, well, not wow wow, as many people here write. It's depressing to look at.
PlanePassenger
PlanePassenger
20 Jul 2025, 15:11 #
@OlgaFom: What are you talking about, he's like this all over everything. Although "Space Cleaners" or YouTube sketches of "Imperial HR" will be more interesting even in this field))
Pthah
Pthah
16 Nov 2025, 21:58 #
Like an American psychopath at the beginning)
earnur_lefrait
earnur_lefrait
01 Apr 13:35 #
And I liked the episode, even though nothing is happening. The transitions between the storylines are smooth, everything is more or less thematically connected, each line is given more time, and there are a lot of household details that are usually completely omitted in the film: a shop, a stove, a cafe, that's all.
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