Dedra and Cyril seem like a strange couple, even communicating with each other as if with some compulsion. But it's interesting how she puts his mother in her place.
Oh, Brasseau, it was so unceremoniously cut out, but that's what happens most of the time in war. And Cassian still hasn't seen B2, who will still be grieving the loss of Brasseau, poor guy.
And this dance of Mon Mothma seems to be a last attempt to hide from reality, in which her participation in the uprising suddenly became much more tangible.
@Nog: Here, apparently, everything gathered into a single snowball and rushed off the hill of her inner "Aaaaaaaaa!". On the one hand, politics, intrigues, conspiracies. On the other hand, you don't understand what's going on in a close circle.
Bend over your fingers. A husband for a distraction, who makes the brain. A daughter, tenderly protected by a mother's love, defiant because of teenage hormones. An accomplice, straining with weak will.
So the woman let off steam, having gone into a drunken frenzy. Here you can either scream in the mountains, but with her status, others will not understand, or just like that, mimicking the cheerful hostess of the house, burn yourself out. There's no other way.
@vonadala: at the same time, her other accomplice easily writes off this very accomplice. And not just an accomplice, but an old acquaintance, and to some extent a friend, as far as friendship is possible in their society. And it's easy to guess that Luten herself, if necessary, will also eliminate her without the slightest hesitation. So, yes. Ignore it, we're waltzing.
@vonadala: Half of it is missing. She sold her daughter into marriage against her will. An accomplice/lover can disrupt the entire operation at any time. My sister, by the way, is also tied up. Luten squats on the brain.
@Nog: But Mon Mothma is the rebel leader in A New Hope with Luke, and Luten is a purely serial character. We already know that he won't do anything to her.
@OlgaL: Cyril and his mother are more likely to show how much Dedra is obsessed with work and imperial approaches to solving problems. As on planet Gorman, she is ready to use very dishonest provocations, and in her personal life she is ready to intimidate people around her. It also turned out that she grew up in the imperial kinderblock. It's probably not childhood there, but survival, that she grew up like this.
The funny thing is that "Andor" is not just the best of all the series in the franchise (there is also "Clone Wars", but it's a cartoon, and it's about something else entirely), but also, in principle, one of the best series in many years, especially for Disney.
The way everything is thought up, played, written, staged and implemented is of the highest level.
Specifically, in this series, I was interested in mentioning the Rakatan civilization — as I understand it, the Endless Rakata Empire was canonized.
The wedding, of course, was a little crinkly, but the moment with Cyril and his domineering little wife was amusing.
The music in the Star Wars universe is not so good — in the last series, the melodies were vibes of rural disco, there are some typical chart notes.
The beginning is very good, and then everything should only develop.
I wonder if they'll show anyone besides Krennik? Mb, it's the same Vader, isn't it?!
So slowly and surely we were going to turn my whole soul inside out by the end of the episode. We started with the melody, went back to the original (the intro was different in the second episode), but changed it, made it tougher, hinting that that's it, that's the end of you. It was as if Leida had betrayed Mon, saying that it would be better if she got drunk. But at least Mon will not regret giving her daughter a chance to undo and change everything, and she will have nothing to show her after the wedding and after the passage of time. The wedding itself is very beautiful, the ceremony is interesting, and my favorite path - zvizdets takes place under the party - is also in place. It's hackneyed, but I really like it. I had a good laugh with Miro and Cyril - two stuffy bores got together in the same apartment. And how cleverly Miro pointed out her mother's place when she thought Cyril would never be better than her in life and she could push him around as much as she wanted. But no, Auntie.
And the Brasseau, my favorite Brasseau.... I understand that we need to rekindle the fire of hatred for the empire even more, but damn it, he was that pillar of stability and support in Cassian's life, which is like this.... It just feels like killing him is a bit of a crime. I've been crying so hard that my head hurts now, thanks not thanks for the second death of the main character this week, devils. They also abandoned B2 on the planet, well, what is it...
@Voider: They threw it like that.... They don't give a damn about him and I won't accept any excuses in the style of "Oh, I didn't have time." The poor droid was worried about everyone, but in the end he immediately finds out that Cassian flew in, but did not pick him up, and Brasseau was also killed😭
Finally, the best SOUND project is back, and releasing three episodes at once is a great idea! I liked how the season started with the hijacking scene, and the meeting was interesting (Krennik was shown in the very first episode), the second episode is also good, but it was by the third that I remembered again how good this series is.
I really liked the whole wedding line (they really messed up to make it look chic), especially the rituals, speeches, and scenes with Mon Mothma (with her daughter, with Tay, and generally a lot of cool moments), but the last one with Luten "I'm not sure what you'"re saying/ How nice for you" and then right after these words, this cool track from the DJ was turned on with dancing - just 10/10. Dinner with Cyril's mom was also interesting, Dedra probably even felt worse at the meeting, but she did a great job there.
Bix is tough, of course, and Brasseau is a pity, but you can already get used to the fact that the rebels suffer and sacrifice so much, Kassian will be without a break all season again, but I hope the meeting with B2 will not happen in the finals, but much earlier. Overall, it's a great start, judging by the reviews and reviews, the season will be even better than the first one, and almost everyone is excited about the ending, so we're waiting.
@dannymeehan: Yes. Imo, this is a Star Trek about politics, endless conversations and action every five to ten episodes. And the people who say that Andor is the best just want to see a different genre in ZV.
@Sei-sama: You should watch the original films first before writing anything about gaiety. It was really possible to sleep there.
And it's good that they show not only bang bang, but also what happens in the shadows and behind all the chases and shootouts. Standing up to a huge oppressive machine is not fun, and we are shown that here. If you think that Star Wars is stupidly funny and shooting games, then I'm sorry.
@kingforthesirens: fascinating and funny, with cool twists and interesting characters, the first original 4-6 episodes were definitely filmed. Boring, with faded characters, these are 1-3 about politics, which were removed later. Is everything right? You mean you can fall asleep on them, right? If not, I won't argue. Everyone has their own view of the universe, I believe that everything should be watched from the moment it appears on the screen, so 4-6 are unattainable masterpieces, someone has a different view of the viewing order, for him the most classic is 1-3. But I repeat, what I wrote in the first season looks a bit long-winded, because in three episodes something happens that they manage to show in Mandolorian in 15 minutes. The series is good (I especially liked the prison episodes), and it wouldn't have lost anything if it had been released outside the franchise, at least for the first season.
@PanPanich: only you forget that the Mandalorian is a complete slag, and Andor is a universally recognized masterpiece.Maybe it's because andor is a complete work, not a set of pictures for the mentally retarded.And by the way, about the original trilogy, only episode 5 was a masterpiece, but episode 4 and 6 do not have this status, and what can I say, but they are definitely worse than the magnificent attack of the clones and the masterpice of revenge of the Sith
@PanPanich: The wonderful Mandalorian?Is this where the hatter blew all the potential by season 3, turning the project from a sturdy middle-class man into a sad parody of himself?It makes sense for me to watch the ratings if season 3 completely failed, the first was a breath of fresh air for the universe, the second was already a good piece of chewing gum, and the third was the level of Obi-wan, Ahsoka, and acolyte.As for Andor, BTV is the most highly valued product ever, so I don't think I definitely need to look at user ratings on different aggregators.
@PanPanich: and by the way, Andor has been called the best TV series for 22 years, it has always been at the top of absolutely all publications.But the Mandalorian was not even included in the prime, that is, in 19, even in 10, and in general, he always received only restrained reviews.But you don't have to understand that, because your prequels are boring and have faded characters.You're probably from the same cohort of people as the commentator above, except for piu piu, you don't need anything else.In 10 years, sequels like this will be called masterpieces, and the acolyte will be praised.
@mandrygin95: as for the third season of the Mandolorian, I agree, there are disadvantages. But we haven't seen the third season of Andor yet, and we haven't seen the whole second season either, so it's too early to draw conclusions.
@mandrygin95: Still, it's subjective. I wrote it. Both Andor and the Mandolorian were nominated for Best Drama Series. All this is good, of course, but the content is not made for critics, but for viewers, it is quite difficult to convince them that white is black. If you don't like it, they won't watch it.
@PanPanich: There will be no season 3 of Andor, as I said, this is a complete and complete work.The project has had a finale for a long time and you can evaluate it.And by the way, this is the second most estimated project after Andor in the last 20 years.
@kingforthesirens: Really? As a child, I couldn't tear myself away from the Originals at all, so where could you sleep there? If I want to watch a seriously depressive tedium, then I will choose a movie/TV series of the appropriate genre, rather than a movie.
@Sei-sama: Are you Newgen, or aren't you poking around at all?95 percent of the content in the universe is political games — that's the whole point.That behind the screen of what seem to be children's films, there is a ton of hopeless darkness.That's the beauty of Andor, that he brings these behind—the-scenes and behind-the-scenes moments to the masses, drawing the attention of the mass audience, like you, that sound is not just pee pee and waving a light stick.But where are the geniuses from the comments whose knowledge of the universe ends with the fact that Vader is Luke's father.I'll give you some advice so that you don't look stupid in the future — don't write about what you don't understand.
@Sei-sama: Man, I've been in the fandom for 20 years.I've learned more about you than you could ever dream of.If your knowledge of the universe ends by watching 6 movies, then you don't need to express your useless and, to be honest, absolutely delusional opinion if it doesn't fit in with reality.Couch critics are always so amused, who don't even know what their universe is about, but they try to express their big ideas.
@mandrygin95: Dude, calm down, if you want to measure yourself, I've been in the fandom for 23 years. Don't judge others by who knows what and who doesn't. If you've lost all your books on the Expanded Universe and you're passing off your conclusions as the Only Truth, then there's nothing to talk about with you. Go jerk off to the Thrawn trilogy.
@Sei-sama: >There is not that lightness inherent in sound. There is no gaiety. 350+ trillion victims of the war with the Vong are looking at your opinion of the STAR universe in disbelief.
@Sei-sama: One of the main leitmotifs of the original trilogy is how little people, cogs in the system, rebel against a giant imperial machine. Here we are shown only the beginning of all this, when no one even dared to say something against it. For me personally, Andor has no problem standing next to other stars, especially with the Empire striking back."
The galaxy far, far away is huge, and it's full of all kinds of sides that it's high time to explore, rather than churn out some Jedi showdown. The Mandalorian did a good job of developing the universe in a slightly different direction, showing the life of a mercenary, Andor took an even steeper course, showing a really scary Empire, and hopelessness and despair under their yoke. Gilroy says that Disney is now preparing horror films based on sound, I only welcome this, as long as smart people like Gilroy and his team are involved in this.
@simple_man: all that remains is to remember who invented this universe and why, and why there is such a struggle, such motives. That's why ZV is a fun adventure in space. When they start in earnest, it's stupid. The universe, created solely for the purposes of propaganda and zombification, shows you every time that it is difficult - but this is the way of the hero - I mean the fight against the system. As I understand it, there are really few adequate adults who understand the essence of this work from the mute.
So don't get too excited, the series may not be bad, but it's only in the top twenty for those who seriously stick holes in this plasticine universe, into which the rest of the audience, if they seriously get into it, will laugh their heads off, because the seriousness of this series ends on the serious faces of the characters. And to understand that this is far from the best series, it's enough to watch the first episode and the last episode of the first season. Anyone who respects serious cinema will say that this is bullshit. So don't overdo it. Mandalorian is a top fan service. Andor is a sour slog for fans, written by a graduate who thinks he understands politics and understands how the things described in the series are solved.
@dannymeehan: Whatever you want, your point of view is your business. It's just unclear what people with a similar opinion are doing in the discussion of the second season.
@Sei-sama: The ZV in the expansion is no longer a fairy tale with funny errands in a cosmopolitan wrapper, and even if we take the novels out of the brackets, there is a trilogy of prequels in which (oh, horror!) seriousness, drama, politics, and sacrifice.
@AnarchyFreak: all this is present in the original trilogy 4-6. Even politics and seriousness, not so much, but there is, let alone sacrifice, there is enough of it. But you could always watch this trilogy in the family circle and get high at any age.
@PanPanich: Politics is where a diplomat with immunity is tortured and the Senate will not approve it. - Did the emperor dissolve the Senate today? Well, whatever you say, I won't even argue)))
Yes, you're right, there was enough sacrifice in the old trilogy, but you must admit that there is a difference between looking at the runaways of characters in scenario armor, which protects them from shots fired by trained military from four meters, and watching Andor and Rogue-1, in which the gg does not have scenario armor. Seriously, who did you lose in the old trilogy? Luke's uncle and aunt, whose death served as a plot trigger and without her the trilogy would not exist? Two elderly Jedi, whose time has come and they have voluntarily stepped into the next world? The father of gg, without whose death the arc of redemption would not work? Oh, right, give or take a hundred rebel extras whose names 99.9% of those who watched wouldn't remember without Googling.
@Sei-sama: Support. But as you can see, drama instead of action is in fashion now, since people are throwing ladles and we are minus. With the last Superman, it's the same bullshit - family drama instead of super heroics.
I am glad that they will be releasing 3 episodes each. The start is great, everything is delicious. The scenery, the staging, the shots, the change of locations, everything is so high-quality, you really don't know what to grab onto, such a high level. Well, Disney can, when they actually hire professional people, then a diamond comes out. And you don't need any Jedi, pathos, etc. Andor proves once again that it is the best development project in the 21st century
To be honest, it's still weak. Maybe it's my high expectations after the masterpiece of the first season that played a cruel joke, XS. Fortunately, there are already 9 episodes ahead. I hope it gets better.
It's a great start, but! I didn't like the repetitions with Mothma, almost every transition to her - they say something bad to her, she gets sad/uneasy, a couple of notes of serious rest, and she goes on. The dancing was also a bit overdone, switching to the same meaning moments several times (I understand his idea and I liked it) It just seems that it was possible to combine some points or make them smaller, because they are the same in content.
Well, when it's not necessary, a stormtrooper CAN suddenly hit right from the first shot. The montage at the end of the series is very strange, Andor is flying to the planet to his friends, whose friends are pinned on the glider and suddenly Mon Mothma has the disco of the century.
@shuruy: imagine a video sequence from this moment. The stormtrooper takes aim, and the Trade Federation droid gets its head blown off. The stormtrooper takes aim again, and Qui-Gon falls. The Stormtrooper takes aim many times, and members of the Jedi Council fall during the execution of Order 66. Again, the Stormtrooper takes aim, this time Alderaan gets it. The stormtrooper decides to aim again, but Yoda fights him off. There are a lot of ideas.
The first three episodes are similar to how I defended my thesis. He seemed to speak beautifully and on the subject, but for some reason I was asked to finish as soon as possible. As a result, if you start watching the first episode as Andor hijacks the shuttle, and then turn on the end of episode 3 where he flies up to the planet, as if it was originally intended. Getting to know Mom is well posed, but is it important for the narrative?
As a result, we have the Andor line and the wedding, where there are undercover intrigues that stretched over 3 episodes.
I didn't really understand the installation of switching to a disco. I thought there would be a montage in the style of switching to a rave to emphasize the growing threat from farmers (in the style of a boiling kettle). This is a good technique, and it would work here, especially if the switching gradually increased. But switching was just at random moments and it didn't work at all.
Well, at least this episode is about something. I liked the way it was filmed. But it seems that in general it was not worth such a long introduction. And it's all a little sideways to the uprising. I like Chandrilian chic. Poor Mon. And Tay signed his own sentence. But I also partly understand Luten, who scolded the senator for clean hands in all this filth. I think her worldview just broke down at this wedding. Illusory though it may be, it's still a pity. She was such a refined woman. But it seemed to me that she looked at her husband for the first time, as if she appreciated him, or even understood him for the first time, when he pushed his advice to the young.
I went to read the opinions of others about the series, and then the two got into a fight to find out which was the best TV series. I was wondering when their discussion would end)) Well, speaking of the series, the series still hasn't lowered the bar compared to the first season, but it was very disappointing that we weren't actually told why and for what purpose Andor risked and hijacked the fighter. And if the next three episodes are a new story, then we haven't gotten an answer to this one yet. I liked the atypical couple in Cyril and Deirdre. I wanted to understand a little bit what is real between them. But she put Mommy in her place perfectly. Next, I think they'll show us the planet with the spider weavers) the outfits at the wedding were just gorgeous and this disco with this track 🥰
@Katrin_90: They still didn't say why and for what purpose Andor risked and hijacked the fighter. Let's assume that Cassian was assigned to hijack the prototype fighter by Luten. The last episode of the first season ended with Cassian asking to join the Luten case.
@Katrin_90: Well, capturing the enemy's technology is part of any confrontation, especially a prototype. To know how it works, what vulnerabilities it has, to train pilots so that if they suddenly capture more of them, they would immediately fly at them, etc. etc.
As I understand it, from now on, every three quarterly episodes will be in a different ZV representation and genre. These three episodes are a kind of dramedy.
If it wasn't for the ending of the episode, I would have thought it was another episode of Dating Fockers. So far, there is no spy thriller like the first season took. So far, the laughs and drunken dancing of a drunken mom.
I personally had questions only about Kasian's plot. I spent almost 3 episodes lying around with the bouncers in order to escape eventually. Yes, they showed that he is a cunning bug, but we knew it before that. Otherwise, it's good, but it feels either delayed or unnecessary. I haven't figured out what this dinner scene with my mother is about yet. I hope this leads somewhere. But for the rest, yes, it's curious, the rebels are not always positive guys. However, the scale is confusing. Four years later, the Battle of Yavin began. Where the fleet is being trained, the army is being trained. Where are the backstage agreements with the planets? Where there are behind-the-scenes games and clever hiding of traces so that the rebels don't find out for as long as possible. In the game of thrones, capitals were captured and dynasties were crushed, and then an experimental fighter was stolen. It's kind of small-scale. As it is, the actors act beautifully and convey a sense of danger well. There's a war here, and heroes can die at any moment. Well, except Kasian, of course) he has a certificate from an Outcast 1)
A typical second season, a finely chopped cut of four lines, not because it is necessary for the plot, but so that all the characters of the first season appear on the screen. I'm very disappointed. Well, the dance was not bad, except that
@Ytzin: Well, yes, stuffy claims about how Tony breaks everything again. Here we are shown the battle of an experimental t-fighter with motorized infantry. The t-fighter has missiles, blasters, a system of non-visual guidance and identification of friend or foe. And what he does with the infantry is generally logical, but then exactly the same thing would have to be done by t-fighters (even if not so advanced) with rebels in the fifth episode and in the sixth. But then the t-vaters did not fly, and even more so did not fight in the atmosphere. As well as destroyers, as well as many other space (!) ships. Planetary battles had little or no vertical dimension. There was no explanation for this, but it was possible to guess the reasons. And now Tony takes it and shows it. What for?
@Ytzin: and the third thing is, damn, of course, the problem of migrants in the United States. After all, if you don't talk about illegal immigrants in the United States, your ass will fall off, right Tony? And yet, and yet I have a firm feeling that they don't have a normal script for the season. They're already dragging their feet. Three episodes, a mining operation is announced. Has it started? Have you even started preparing for it? Has anything happened on this topic, other than a very pointless meeting and a family dinner? Yes, last season they also sued for being too long, but that wasn't the case there, there were arches, there was an atmosphere, and most importantly, there was no horizontal plot. It was nice there. But not here. In short, I am saddened. It was a great series.
@Ytzin: Well, instead of the usual "oh, poor, hardworking mexicans, everyone offends them," it just showed that illegal migrants are an environment in which criminals and terrorists hide and thrive.
And why do you have a cheap strawberry from the noughties playing at your wedding? In contrast to the music from the first trilogy, this is a fierce clash. And with any music where they want to show the future.
@Penis_Vocabular: Well, you can't put John Williams at a young couple's wedding, with all due respect to the master. Although, I've already giggled in a thought experiment, if you put Duel of the Fates on Mon Mothma's dancing. And for Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan's fight with Darth Maul, put this tuber.
I absolutely agree, even some kind of syntwave, also modern, would be more suitable. But, apparently, they wanted to emphasize that these are rich kids hanging out, so the music should be as dumb as possible)))
It seems obvious to me that Mon Mothma's dancing will break up into memes, the only question is restraint of imagination. So far, Palpatine under Shooting Stars is the best I've seen, but there are chances.
Before his death, Brasseau also managed to divert suspicion from the farmer by yelling at him, saying that he had betrayed them, such a traitor. So sorry 💔
@Furiousalina: I still did not understand the meaning of this moment. How can Brasseau divert suspicion from a farmer whose family has all the documents in order with this skirmish? The Imperials may ask the question: "Brass thinks you passed it to us, but you didn't pass it, why?" What was the point of this performance? The Empire, on the contrary, will arrest him for aiding and abetting. In general, I may have misunderstood something, but the scene seemed strange. There may be translation problems. By the way, I racked my brain for a long time and couldn't figure out where I saw an actor playing a farmer. It turned out to be an older Ryan Pope. He's Psycho Paul from the coolest English TV series, the Ideal.
@Nemez11: Brass wanted to deflect suspicion with this, but the Imperial says, "You're lucky we're here now." That is, he really passed them in the end, and Brass understands this only in the moment.
@Nemez11: this farmer helped them and hung around, if the Imperials start interrogating and it comes out, he will say that he suspected and asked questions in order to hand them over, and all questions about why he was often seen with them will disappear.
Very mixed feelings from the first three episodes.
There is little Kassian, although the series is about him.
Mon Mothma's line could easily have been compressed and not shown in such detail the wedding (beautiful, yes, but why?). Three episodes of walking around the house with a pained look and talking about the same thing. I want to see the fighting spirit already!
They will have the battle of Yavin in 4 years, and it's time to gather all the forces that we will see in New Hope. Bases, ships, people.
I liked the secret meeting of the imperials, I love all these political and economic issues.
I'm not losing faith yet, the first season was good!
I've been trying for a sooo long time to figure out what I'm missing here in the second season. Certainly not the sudden death of Brasseau. It's cruel, it's not clear at first, what the hell at all. But setting Cas up to hate the Empire more by losing everyone seems to be the way to go this season. Everyone will die. And in Rogue 1 there will be absolutely nothing to lose.
I admire Mon Mothma immensely. But I'm very tired of milling around at the wedding. I'm getting old, apparently. I explained these transitions to her at the end of the episode like this: 1. The tension in all the locations of the series increases - Mon completely immerses himself in dancing in order to hide from reality for a while. 2. After talking with Luten, she realized that everything was much more complicated and terrible, that it was not somewhere out there that would die, and not someone out there, but loved ones. And that realization, that fear, was written all over her face. Everything is getting scarier and more real.
I didn't like Mon's daughter in the first season, and I don't like her here either. At first, she was infuriated by the fact that she didn't listen to her mother, she snapped. When she listened to propaganda and was influenced from the outside, it was very difficult for her mother to maintain an adequate relationship with her. When she decided to agree to a wedding with a kid, I decided that she wanted to help her parents, help her mother, support traditions, etc. But in the conversation before the wedding, I realized that Lida was lost to Mon Mothma. When the mess starts, the daughter will take the side of the Empire - it's a no-brainer.
It was great to see the landscape from Yavin. But it wasn't worth keeping Andor captive for so long. It's kind of clueless. Even if they manage to survive there, and we'll see them again.
what a worthless shit, and I was also scolded for giving the first season of Andor and all the episodes 5 stars here. And Obi Wan got 3 and a half stars)))
mdaaaaaa. It's just three episodes of the second season and there's nothing to talk about. Water with water and refilled with water. What's all this chatter about?
all three series can fit into three or four points.: 1. Cassian flew off somewhere I don't understand where, most likely on a resistance mission to loot an Imperial Fighter. 2. Cassian flew to the wrong planet for which he planned, or whatever it was, I still did not understand. There the bums caught him, then the bums quarreled, Cassian flew off this planet. 3. Krenik came up with some ingenious plan to capture planets and resources, and you want to introduce an Evil woman there, an Evil woman does not want to go there. 4. The evil woman began to live with the nerd from the first season. The hairy Dick is chatting with an old Woman about politics (as it was in the antique store, the conversations are still the same: blah blah blah, how are you? normal. and how are you? normal. We have a secret, don't forget. I don't forget. See you in a week. Oh, how's your husband? I ate too many pears." 5. Friends or whoever? Cassian's brother is suffering on the Planet Polya because of the Empire's actions. Cassian arrives and saves everyone.
all. For 20-30 minutes of the whole action and the arches, everything could fit into one episode. Immediately water for three hours. in short, all three episodes are as bland and boring as possible, but it was shot very coolly, almost like Rogue One, but the plot is even worse than the Mandalorian (Yes, the Mandalorian is cal))) Slightly better than the Disney movies, but generally cal.) and worse than Obi Wan by a factor of 10 (well, so far in these three series, so alas)
Alkaloid and Skeliton's team - I did not look.
I repeat: It was shot superbly, stylistically everything is great. The plot is complete shit. (I'm talking about the first three episodes of the second season only! The first season of Andor is great, well, two or three episodes were not very good, but everything is fine)
It's that little asshole who got the Brassos killed again. it would be better if an unnecessary uninteresting character with a shitty game drank it as soon as possible. And Brasseau was cool
I watch the series in RHS translation, so the viewing turned out to be smooth, one episode per day or two. At first, you expect a movement that Cassian will blow up something there, get in there, and it will all be bold, fast, and a lot. As a result, this expectation was not fulfilled. But, nevertheless, I liked these first three episodes. They show well how resistance is born, what fears prevail over everyone, starting with those who finance and who die, thus paving and strengthening the future resistance. Everything happens slowly, you want to see the plot develop as quickly as possible, but then you realize that the creators of Andor have taken the right course and, with the slowness of the story, show all the gusto and agony of creating something necessary. Scenes with imperial employees make you nervous, as if you yourself are in a situation where you have to justify yourself. I don't want to dwell on specific characters, as it's difficult to discuss their actions and motivations. The visual of the series is gorgeous. Watching episodes on TV, you experience positive emotions from what you see. Everything is clear, quite refined, not flashy interiors and attire. I rate the first three episodes 4+ out of 5.
@oldbk: I also decided to watch the RHS translation, but only three episodes at once, because the creators divided the season into four parts of three episodes each. It looks pretty solid.
Of course, I may have gotten used to it, but somehow the plot drags on very tediously and slowly, these dances at the wedding are half the series. Cassian spent two episodes in the jungle with some ragamuffins who eventually shot each other, what was the plot significance of this???
I can think of why, of course, but I'm not getting paid for the script of this series. They don't tell us what the problem of searches on the farmers' planet is. Why can't you sit in the basement, it seems like they haven't learned how to scan all living life from space yet. They can't even recognize faces.
@TristisOris: Hmm... And in the TV series "Obi-Wan," it seems that droid just scanned his face and sent it before he "died," and they started looking for him. Or was it my imagination?
How depressing all the wedding scenes are... 3 episodes of all this is dragging on (( It would be possible to show it in 15-20 minutes and that's enough
wow, the end of the series with the contrast of what someone loses for the sake of rebellion... The series is amazing at revealing the topic of self- and not just donations
Bix imho, as it turns out, don't be born beautiful... and yes - Andor in the TV series Andor as an episode. actor.
the wedding and generally chandrila with these kimonos are more like in Japan. style.
films about the War do not let me go, as well as the creators of the series Imperial squad on wheat. The fields of the empire's breadbasket planet are exactly German. patrol on pshenich. the fields of Ukraine are the breadbasket of the 3rd Reich promised by Hitler. open-top APC = Sd.Kfz. 251. an officer with a personal driver in a field convertible = Volkswagen Type 82 (Kubelwagen). He's coming from Nehor. intentions for a local woman 😬 only a thread of a speeder bike with a cradle and a machine gun is missing🤣
@Oliverell22: at least this time, Mr. Berion was merciful and saved us from his trick of listing all the previous roles of actors, a la comments on this branch of KP
The third passing episode, again the saddest wedding and the saddest lunch with my mom. Also, this music is disgusting, which was apparently passed through the neural network to create the illusion of music from the future. The worst TV series in the universe so far.
@PlanePassenger: It seemed to me as if this music was broken. It's like all the rules have been broken. Well, apparently it's just that the track didn't go in.
Kas krasava, of course, flew in, destroyed one of the racks, killed everyone and flew away, and the farmers will continue to sort everything out, because they will come for an answer. And a very awkward family dinner at the beginning of the episode, as well as dancing at the wedding!)
I didn't understand why, with all the connections and money, we couldn't buy visas for them. So we can feed a rat in law enforcement agencies for years, but we can't bribe it for the sake of ordinary permits?
@strabby: I never agree with you, but I admit that you may not like it) For me, for example, everything fit perfectly into the ENT. There's a really cool contrast shown against the background of this track.
@XYZon: Ten years ago, they made better electronics, but this track sounds like it was deliberately made bad. if it hurts your ears already *now*, then in ten years it will simply not be an option to reconsider.
In the first season, the music fit so well into what was happening that I just * didn't notice it.*
here it's just some kind of misunderstanding. I Googled it, and it turned out that the reason for this was the change of composer. sadness.
Как много времени тратится на совсем не обязательный показ танцев и прочих хородов вокруг молодожёнов. В первом сезоне такая ерунда если и была то по минимуму. Вот это действительно ощущается каким-то филлером.
What terrible music in the second season. In the first one, I didn't even notice the music, it fit so seamlessly into the narrative. Here, my ears are just bleeding. Especially the last minute of the episode. It's so dark.
This is so bad. It's so depressing. The first season was great. There was a solid thought, an idea, an atmosphere, a density of events. And here it's just a leapfrog of characters, dialogues, and events generated by a neural network, everything is small, monstrously stretched, and there is no integrity. I quit watching. Just a drain.
The uprising must develop very rapidly in order to meet the deadline. So far, there is no Inkom, no Calamari, no bases, no personnel, no organization of any kind, and time is already running out.
I really liked season 1, but when I started watching season 2, I didn't understand anything (I probably forgot what was in the first one). Is it worth continuing to watch?
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177Dedra and Cyril seem like a strange couple, even communicating with each other as if with some compulsion. But it's interesting how she puts his mother in her place.
Bend over your fingers. A husband for a distraction, who makes the brain. A daughter, tenderly protected by a mother's love, defiant because of teenage hormones. An accomplice, straining with weak will.
So the woman let off steam, having gone into a drunken frenzy. Here you can either scream in the mountains, but with her status, others will not understand, or just like that, mimicking the cheerful hostess of the house, burn yourself out. There's no other way.
And it's easy to guess that Luten herself, if necessary, will also eliminate her without the slightest hesitation. So, yes. Ignore it, we're waltzing.
The funny thing is that "Andor" is not just the best of all the series in the franchise (there is also "Clone Wars", but it's a cartoon, and it's about something else entirely), but also, in principle, one of the best series in many years, especially for Disney.
The way everything is thought up, played, written, staged and implemented is of the highest level.
Specifically, in this series, I was interested in mentioning the Rakatan civilization — as I understand it, the Endless Rakata Empire was canonized.
The wedding, of course, was a little crinkly, but the moment with Cyril and his domineering little wife was amusing.
The music in the Star Wars universe is not so good — in the last series, the melodies were vibes of rural disco, there are some typical chart notes.
The beginning is very good, and then everything should only develop.
I wonder if they'll show anyone besides Krennik? Mb, it's the same Vader, isn't it?!
So slowly and surely we were going to turn my whole soul inside out by the end of the episode.
We started with the melody, went back to the original (the intro was different in the second episode), but changed it, made it tougher, hinting that that's it, that's the end of you.
It was as if Leida had betrayed Mon, saying that it would be better if she got drunk. But at least Mon will not regret giving her daughter a chance to undo and change everything, and she will have nothing to show her after the wedding and after the passage of time. The wedding itself is very beautiful, the ceremony is interesting, and my favorite path - zvizdets takes place under the party - is also in place. It's hackneyed, but I really like it.
I had a good laugh with Miro and Cyril - two stuffy bores got together in the same apartment. And how cleverly Miro pointed out her mother's place when she thought Cyril would never be better than her in life and she could push him around as much as she wanted. But no, Auntie.
And the Brasseau, my favorite Brasseau.... I understand that we need to rekindle the fire of hatred for the empire even more, but damn it, he was that pillar of stability and support in Cassian's life, which is like this.... It just feels like killing him is a bit of a crime.
I've been crying so hard that my head hurts now, thanks not thanks for the second death of the main character this week, devils. They also abandoned B2 on the planet, well, what is it...
By the way, was the droid abandoned? What prevented him from being picked up? Like he shot everyone he could?
I really liked the whole wedding line (they really messed up to make it look chic), especially the rituals, speeches, and scenes with Mon Mothma (with her daughter, with Tay, and generally a lot of cool moments), but the last one with Luten "I'm not sure what you'"re saying/ How nice for you" and then right after these words, this cool track from the DJ was turned on with dancing - just 10/10. Dinner with Cyril's mom was also interesting, Dedra probably even felt worse at the meeting, but she did a great job there.
Bix is tough, of course, and Brasseau is a pity, but you can already get used to the fact that the rebels suffer and sacrifice so much, Kassian will be without a break all season again, but I hope the meeting with B2 will not happen in the finals, but much earlier. Overall, it's a great start, judging by the reviews and reviews, the season will be even better than the first one, and almost everyone is excited about the ending, so we're waiting.
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And it's good that they show not only bang bang, but also what happens in the shadows and behind all the chases and shootouts. Standing up to a huge oppressive machine is not fun, and we are shown that here. If you think that Star Wars is stupidly funny and shooting games, then I'm sorry.
>There is not that lightness inherent in sound. There is no gaiety.
350+ trillion victims of the war with the Vong are looking at your opinion of the STAR universe in disbelief.
The galaxy far, far away is huge, and it's full of all kinds of sides that it's high time to explore, rather than churn out some Jedi showdown. The Mandalorian did a good job of developing the universe in a slightly different direction, showing the life of a mercenary, Andor took an even steeper course, showing a really scary Empire, and hopelessness and despair under their yoke. Gilroy says that Disney is now preparing horror films based on sound, I only welcome this, as long as smart people like Gilroy and his team are involved in this.
So don't get too excited, the series may not be bad, but it's only in the top twenty for those who seriously stick holes in this plasticine universe, into which the rest of the audience, if they seriously get into it, will laugh their heads off, because the seriousness of this series ends on the serious faces of the characters. And to understand that this is far from the best series, it's enough to watch the first episode and the last episode of the first season. Anyone who respects serious cinema will say that this is bullshit. So don't overdo it. Mandalorian is a top fan service. Andor is a sour slog for fans, written by a graduate who thinks he understands politics and understands how the things described in the series are solved.
Yes, you're right, there was enough sacrifice in the old trilogy, but you must admit that there is a difference between looking at the runaways of characters in scenario armor, which protects them from shots fired by trained military from four meters, and watching Andor and Rogue-1, in which the gg does not have scenario armor.
Seriously, who did you lose in the old trilogy? Luke's uncle and aunt, whose death served as a plot trigger and without her the trilogy would not exist? Two elderly Jedi, whose time has come and they have voluntarily stepped into the next world? The father of gg, without whose death the arc of redemption would not work? Oh, right, give or take a hundred rebel extras whose names 99.9% of those who watched wouldn't remember without Googling.
But as you can see, drama instead of action is in fashion now, since people are throwing ladles and we are minus.
With the last Superman, it's the same bullshit - family drama instead of super heroics.
the track, by the way, can also be found as the niamos club mix
You could see it right there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6E7gfpGql7w
the composer wrote the best rave of the season that he will release on the platforms.
Часовая версия
As a result, if you start watching the first episode as Andor hijacks the shuttle, and then turn on the end of episode 3 where he flies up to the planet, as if it was originally intended.
Getting to know Mom is well posed, but is it important for the narrative?
As a result, we have the Andor line and the wedding, where there are undercover intrigues that stretched over 3 episodes.
I didn't really understand the installation of switching to a disco. I thought there would be a montage in the style of switching to a rave to emphasize the growing threat from farmers (in the style of a boiling kettle). This is a good technique, and it would work here, especially if the switching gradually increased. But switching was just at random moments and it didn't work at all.
And please remind me, who are these farmers who caused such a mess?
They still didn't say why and for what purpose Andor risked and hijacked the fighter.
Let's assume that Cassian was assigned to hijack the prototype fighter by Luten. The last episode of the first season ended with Cassian asking to join the Luten case.
If it wasn't for the ending of the episode, I would have thought it was another episode of Dating Fockers. So far, there is no spy thriller like the first season took. So far, the laughs and drunken dancing of a drunken mom.
I'm very disappointed.
Well, the dance was not bad, except that
But then the t-vaters did not fly, and even more so did not fight in the atmosphere. As well as destroyers, as well as many other space (!) ships. Planetary battles had little or no vertical dimension. There was no explanation for this, but it was possible to guess the reasons. And now Tony takes it and shows it. What for?
And yet, and yet I have a firm feeling that they don't have a normal script for the season. They're already dragging their feet. Three episodes, a mining operation is announced. Has it started? Have you even started preparing for it? Has anything happened on this topic, other than a very pointless meeting and a family dinner? Yes, last season they also sued for being too long, but that wasn't the case there, there were arches, there was an atmosphere, and most importantly, there was no horizontal plot. It was nice there. But not here.
In short, I am saddened. It was a great series.
So sorry 💔
The Empire, on the contrary, will arrest him for aiding and abetting.
In general, I may have misunderstood something, but the scene seemed strange. There may be translation problems.
By the way, I racked my brain for a long time and couldn't figure out where I saw an actor playing a farmer. It turned out to be an older Ryan Pope. He's Psycho Paul from the coolest English TV series, the Ideal.
There is little Kassian, although the series is about him.
Mon Mothma's line could easily have been compressed and not shown in such detail the wedding (beautiful, yes, but why?). Three episodes of walking around the house with a pained look and talking about the same thing. I want to see the fighting spirit already!
They will have the battle of Yavin in 4 years, and it's time to gather all the forces that we will see in New Hope. Bases, ships, people.
I liked the secret meeting of the imperials, I love all these political and economic issues.
I'm not losing faith yet, the first season was good!
Certainly not the sudden death of Brasseau. It's cruel, it's not clear at first, what the hell at all. But setting Cas up to hate the Empire more by losing everyone seems to be the way to go this season. Everyone will die. And in Rogue 1 there will be absolutely nothing to lose.
I admire Mon Mothma immensely. But I'm very tired of milling around at the wedding. I'm getting old, apparently. I explained these transitions to her at the end of the episode like this:
1. The tension in all the locations of the series increases - Mon completely immerses himself in dancing in order to hide from reality for a while.
2. After talking with Luten, she realized that everything was much more complicated and terrible, that it was not somewhere out there that would die, and not someone out there, but loved ones. And that realization, that fear, was written all over her face. Everything is getting scarier and more real.
I didn't like Mon's daughter in the first season, and I don't like her here either. At first, she was infuriated by the fact that she didn't listen to her mother, she snapped. When she listened to propaganda and was influenced from the outside, it was very difficult for her mother to maintain an adequate relationship with her.
When she decided to agree to a wedding with a kid, I decided that she wanted to help her parents, help her mother, support traditions, etc.
But in the conversation before the wedding, I realized that Lida was lost to Mon Mothma. When the mess starts, the daughter will take the side of the Empire - it's a no-brainer.
It was great to see the landscape from Yavin. But it wasn't worth keeping Andor captive for so long. It's kind of clueless. Even if they manage to survive there, and we'll see them again.
It's a shame for Bee, too. Take Bee away!!!!
mdaaaaaa. It's just three episodes of the second season and there's nothing to talk about. Water with water and refilled with water. What's all this chatter about?
all three series can fit into three or four points.:
1. Cassian flew off somewhere I don't understand where, most likely on a resistance mission to loot an Imperial Fighter.
2. Cassian flew to the wrong planet for which he planned, or whatever it was, I still did not understand. There the bums caught him, then the bums quarreled, Cassian flew off this planet.
3. Krenik came up with some ingenious plan to capture planets and resources, and you want to introduce an Evil woman there, an Evil woman does not want to go there.
4. The evil woman began to live with the nerd from the first season. The hairy Dick is chatting with an old Woman about politics (as it was in the antique store, the conversations are still the same: blah blah blah, how are you? normal. and how are you? normal. We have a secret, don't forget. I don't forget. See you in a week. Oh, how's your husband? I ate too many pears."
5. Friends or whoever? Cassian's brother is suffering on the Planet Polya because of the Empire's actions. Cassian arrives and saves everyone.
all. For 20-30 minutes of the whole action and the arches, everything could fit into one episode. Immediately water for three hours.
in short, all three episodes are as bland and boring as possible, but it was shot very coolly, almost like Rogue One, but the plot is even worse than the Mandalorian (Yes, the Mandalorian is cal))) Slightly better than the Disney movies, but generally cal.) and worse than Obi Wan by a factor of 10 (well, so far in these three series, so alas)
Alkaloid and Skeliton's team - I did not look.
I repeat: It was shot superbly, stylistically everything is great. The plot is complete shit. (I'm talking about the first three episodes of the second season only! The first season of Andor is great, well, two or three episodes were not very good, but everything is fine)
At first, you expect a movement that Cassian will blow up something there, get in there, and it will all be bold, fast, and a lot. As a result, this expectation was not fulfilled.
But, nevertheless, I liked these first three episodes. They show well how resistance is born, what fears prevail over everyone, starting with those who finance and who die, thus paving and strengthening the future resistance. Everything happens slowly, you want to see the plot develop as quickly as possible, but then you realize that the creators of Andor have taken the right course and, with the slowness of the story, show all the gusto and agony of creating something necessary.
Scenes with imperial employees make you nervous, as if you yourself are in a situation where you have to justify yourself.
I don't want to dwell on specific characters, as it's difficult to discuss their actions and motivations.
The visual of the series is gorgeous. Watching episodes on TV, you experience positive emotions from what you see. Everything is clear, quite refined, not flashy interiors and attire.
I rate the first three episodes 4+ out of 5.
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and yes - Andor in the TV series Andor as an episode. actor.
the wedding and generally chandrila with these kimonos are more like in Japan. style.
films about the War do not let me go, as well as the creators of the series
Imperial squad on wheat. The fields of the empire's breadbasket planet are exactly German. patrol on pshenich. the fields of Ukraine are the breadbasket of the 3rd Reich promised by Hitler.
open-top APC = Sd.Kfz. 251.
an officer with a personal driver in a field convertible = Volkswagen Type 82 (Kubelwagen).
He's coming from Nehor. intentions for a local woman
😬 only a thread of a speeder bike with a cradle and a machine gun is missing🤣
mon mothma got drunk on vodka and flexit for tectonics
is my favorite series
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxLBOwdTKjI
In the first season, the music fit so well into what was happening that I just * didn't notice it.*
here it's just some kind of misunderstanding. I Googled it, and it turned out that the reason for this was the change of composer. sadness.
The script is not great.
I don't care so much about the death of one or the other as what they left 😑
A childhood friend was "written off." :-(