From the last scene, he suddenly completely fell apart to tears. Cassian fought to the last and gave his life, not even knowing that he had helped create a world where the future generation could live without an imperial fist over their heads, including his own child. And then there's the transition to John Williams' classic composition in the credits. What a wonderful series, it gave so many emotions in two seasons. Now I'm going to download Rogue One and review it for the first time since it was released.
Mon Mothma has changed her hairstyle, now it's almost a familiar image) But how annoying is the distrust from other rebels. Moreover, it is quite understandable, the risk of disinformation, sabotage, and espionage is incredibly high. And we, as viewers, know much more than they do. But still... Annoy.
It was obviously clear that the series should not expect some kind of bright ending, since it is served by Rogue One. And yet it's as if something is missing...
@Teyvilldost: Disney loves money, even though it has been sacrificing it in recent years for the sake of the agenda. Therefore, they can always give a full meter about one of Cassian's missions).
First they broke my heart with flashbacks with Luten and little glue, and in the end they finished me off with Bix and her baby. there is also a constant feeling of impending cunt all three episodes. It was beautiful. We definitely need to review rogue one now.
There are no words — the series turned out to be just a masterpiece. One of the best TV shows I've ever watched, especially when it comes to the prequels. It's difficult to write a story so perfectly, but it's so well done. It's an incredible series, the best thing that's happened to Star Wars since the original trilogy, and I'd even say it's comparable.
It is unfortunate that Tony Gilroy has stated that he has no plans to continue working on Star Wars in any capacity. But I really hope that Disney and Lucasfilm will take note of how much the viewers liked the series — and what they really expect from the franchise.
@concept_who: We never found out anything about my sister. His mother told him not to look, and he stopped looking. Imho, this is a big joint - a gun that never fired.
@Adrasteya: and it's strange to me that it's strange to people. The series is not about finding a sister. This was the starting point of the plot, and the series shows how from purely personal motives, except for which he needed nothing, a person comes to fight for something important for a huge number of people. And the search for his sister was initially completely illusory, he imagined to himself that she might be alive, and she could be found. His mother explained to him that it was a mirage that he had invented for himself in an attempt to cope with the past. He had another goal, a real one.
@Adrasteya: Cassian's sister was not forgotten. Tony Gilroy explained in an interview that due to the fact that Cassian could not find and save his sister, this childhood psychological trauma became his deep motive for returning to save everyone else: his foster mother, Bix, Mon Mothma, Luten, Kleia, etc... He constantly returns to save others because he could not To save my sister. It was the pain of loss that made him who he became. And the fact that the scriptwriters have not forgotten about his sister is confirmed in the finale, when the droid wakes Cassian from his sleep.
How intense did the previous episode end and how relaxed did this one start) The whole episode with Clay's rescue is amazing. And the anticipation, and the fun, and the heavy fire. And K2, who saved everyone)
And now it was clear why Bix had left. Up to this point, her motivation had been a bit strange, to put it bluntly. And, I must say, I did not expect at all that it would turn out to be pregnancy.
Not just a great series within the universe, but a great one overall. A small disadvantage, of course, is that this is the end of the story in a separate film. But fortunately it has been removed for a long time and it can be easily viewed. I'll take a look at it now. And I'll review Andor myself someday. It's sad to say goodbye to the characters :(
Clea was coolly revealed this season, she became almost the most beloved character. Dedra's in jail, huh) Thanks to Gilroy for the series, I'm going to watch Rogue One.
It was great. It is a pity that we will never see the film again in such a tone and with such quality and depth of the script. Disney killed the STAR brand so much that even with all the praise from viewers and critics... No one is watching. And then there will be a klepatt slop from Filoni the clown, where he will again publish ideas from the expanded universe, appropriate them for himself, and make them into fanservice garbage.
Bix with the baby... something got in the eye, a wonderful ending to the series, we need to review the film again now. Klea also got out, I was worried about her character, after all, how many people Cassian had saved, and the rebel council had such an attitude towards him and the team (without which nothing would have happened). It's a good thing Mon is there, otherwise we would have sat and watched with disbelief, like the second senator in the movie was just as annoying, but I don't remember exactly.
I really liked the ending, and it was supposed to be calm. Most of all, I liked the scene with Partagas, who listened to Nemik's manifesto before his death and thought about who wrote it, it seemed to be so ideological, but in the end he seemed to realize that the Empire was going to collapse. In general, I wonder how they got rid of him, Dedra (who did so much for the Empire) was thrown into prison, but this general, who screwed up so many times, calmly continues to work, just because he is a friend of Krennik. I liked this moment, there's something about this outcome for the characters.
For me, this is the best project in terms of the characters (and the cast is all great), the plot, the shooting... yes, everything is perfectly done in almost every aspect, I would never have thought that the project for a character from Rogue One would be so amazing and keep the bar high from the first to the last episode. There are so many wonderful dialogues and scenes that keep you in suspense - Tony Gilroy has created a miracle, I'm not even sure that there will be a similar project in the STAR universe. It's a pity, of course, that we didn't get 5 seasons, but thank you so much for 2.
@kobiii: The totalitarian system always eats its own people first, because those close to it most often come at night with a snuffbox. Stalin killed almost the entire communist elite, and then killed all those who helped kill the communist elite.
Absolute cinema It's unlikely that anything better came out in the universe, and it's unlikely that anything better will come out already. That's what Star Wars is, and that's why we all love them. If Andor doesn't pick up the Emmy this year, I do not know what is wrong with these critics, but it will be a double theft.
Since this series didn't spare anyone (except those who will definitely be in the next films), it was very exciting for Clea, but it's good that it worked out. She's the kind of character who was infuriating at the beginning, and gradually I really liked her. The second favorite character after Val.
Mon Mothma is now, I think, indistinguishable from the original, the actress was well chosen.
And I've been Gluing Glue for a long time, I think it's more suitable for Val than Synth.
That's the end of the penultimate episode in this epic story. In principle, everything is as it should be, this is a great exposition for the upcoming final. An exposition in the best sense, of course. All the pieces are in place and ready. The gears of samsara spun.
Thank you for explaining about Bix, as I had a complaint about her motivation to leave Andor. Now everything is logical and understandable.
An outstanding piece, at the same time, which would not have been possible to imagine without the effect that Rogue One had. This is the case when everything turned out perfectly.
And Clay just returned to where they left the cute droid, I wonder if Cassian thought to check out this place? And even though he will give his life for the bright future of people, it's nice to know that his child will also live in this world.
The first season was amazing for its quality and plots. The second one turned out to be quieter in terms of drive, sometimes even sleepy, but in terms of quality and elaboration of both the characters and the atmosphere of what is happening, this is simply a great level.
It's an amazing series, the best TV project, it's really solid. I hope Disney understands what the audience needs, not just fanservice, power and lightsabers, but real human drama and the sacrifices of already great characters. Rogue must be included after the credits.
@Criss-Cross: Rogue One is an average movie, not bad by SV standards, but it's average in itself. And, unfortunately, after the series, it's especially obvious, they jumped over their heads so much.
@Criss-Cross: Yeah, and how interesting it was to see which Kasian was different in the movie. In the series, he's completely different, and I'm not talking about appearance, but about behavior) but the droid is just as funny)
It seems to me that I have not yet watched stories that are so well integrated into the global plot, which are also more interesting than the main line.
@FiniteIncantatum: Oh, yeah. As a rule, all sequels have one global problem - they give us answers to questions that no one has asked. It's amazing that they've managed to present it all in a way that makes sense and is interesting.
@IronFOX: Is this a person in the world, not a function? Are we talking about the same character for sure? About the same Miro, which does not perceive and does not manifest itself in any other way, except as an ideal imperial gear? Yes, something human appeared in her only when she realized that she was fucked up - before that, she was absolutely sure that she was right and unpunished. That's who the fanatic in this story is, so it's definitely her.
@kingforthesirens: You need to understand that Dedra is specifically prescribed by a gear. In the episode with Cyril's mother, they said that she had no parents, she grew up in a special home and she didn't even understand why they sympathized with her.
..It's really not clear what kind of magic school this is. There are 19 years between Revenge of the Sith and a New Hope. Dedre is clearly around 30. It is not known what kind of Suvorov military school it was where children were trained to become officers from the cradle back in the days of the Republic.
@IronFOX: Yes, it is. Because when Rouge One was being shot, Andor was obviously in question as a project. I had to assemble an even more controversial character than Han Solo was at one time ... It took almost 8-9 years, the idea of the series appeared, and then, literally on the spot, it was necessary to somehow make the viewer empathize, "Root" for the hero. That's why you're sitting like this and you don't believe in anything.
Dedra, yes, was the most complete. Even on probation, she worked for the benefit of the Empire. The rest of the characters (well, except mb Mov) don't seem consistent.
@MrGoodKat_: I'll clarify a bit. The idea to make a prequel appeared almost immediately after the film. It's just that at first there was only one showrunner, and then when Gilroy came in, the script and the plot were rewritten. All this takes time and coordination, so the actual filming did not begin until 2020.
@gkalian: behind the mathematics of deadlines, kickoff and deadlines, everything hides the fact that the viewer's attitude towards the hero had to be formed anew.
Andor in the series and Andor in the movie seem to be very different characters...But that's definitely not the problem with this series.
The series ended great. It was a great adventure for 24 episodes, very strong. I wish season 2 all the Emmys, it deserves it
P.S. If I remember correctly, on Star Wars Celebration, the penultimate one talked about the return of Andy Serkis this season, but it was never shown. Was it cut out? Or did I just miss it in a cameo?
Bix ditched Andor and didn't tell him she was pregnant... after that, her character disgusts me. Kasian died without knowing that he had become a father😡
@DmitriyPetrov: It's a shame for him, yes. It was a selfish act on her part, she thought that he would not participate in the resistance because of the child. It turns out that she looks like Luten, who rejected calmness for himself and for others in order to fight. For example, he took Lonnie's life. But on the other hand, the rebels won, which means it was the right choice.
@DmitriyPetrov: I don't understand who puts a minus sign on the site here)) any adequate comment with a question about logic is fiercely opposed) but I agree
@MrGoodKat_: There are a lot of teenagers running through the characters who can't see beyond the cover of the character... You haven't spoken about the agenda yet... I tried it once...
How Rogue One added depth to the original trilogy, making it more mundane. And who would have known that a series based on a minor character, Rogue One, would simply tear apart the soul, which neither the prequels nor other stories could achieve. Andor is not a series about Cassian and only about the victims and sufferings of the Rebels, the inhabitants oppressed by totalitarian regimes, lies of propaganda, injustice. Unfortunately, we are now living in a period when lies have a louder voice, but there is hope that resistance will help strengthen the truth. Thanks to the second season for not reducing the quality of the first season. The characters, their actions, and their fates are so well written that the series can be reviewed and reviewed. As it turned out, third-party experimental projects on what seemed to be faded sounds can still be of high quality, and Andor gives hope that such projects may still appear. Thanks to the creators
What a pleasure I got from watching this series! Some episodes were creepy! The characters Clay, Lutena and Andora are forever in my heart A good ending was prescribed for Dedra in prison for the production of Death Star parts, where Cas had once been imprisoned. Mon's ex-husband was rather caricatured with a new lady who abuses alcohol. It's a pitiful sight … After such an emotional finale of the series, I ran to review Rogue, otherwise I watched it once in a cinema in 2016. …
@DenisBro: in the finale, Mon Mothma's husband is shown in the cabin of a flying car with Davo Skaldun's wife, whose son they had married their daughter to earlier in the story;-)
@bond-film: They say, by the way, that there were plans to add an episode in which Skaldun, who owns a news network, refuses to interrupt the broadcast of Mothma's speech, thus acting as her ally. It was eventually cut out, but technically it could have happened behind the scenes and thus brought the spouses of the traitors together.
Cassian found faith in himself. And already at the very end of the series, this is already a leader, a man with unshakeable principles, with a very important mission. That's great! A couple of episodes ago, he wanted to escape and live in the distance with his beloved. I know how it's going to end, and that fact made me sad and sad, but after the last scene where Bix is with the baby, it was like I let go...✌️
The series has stirred up my phantom regrets about the lack of good and logical eyeliner and the classic trilogy, because I don't perceive episodes 1-3 at all (even apart from the disgusting acting). It's clear that this is a different genre, but it would be great if the formation of Vader was shown not in the format of a manipulated youth who lost his mind due to childhood injuries and fears, but as an adult story of a man who himself reached this fanatical faith, it can be very cool and scary. If Padme had been shown not as a blind fool who couldn't catch up with anything and died because life was sad, but as a smart woman who realized where her love was taking her and ran away in time, hiding the children (which, in fact, followed from the original trilogy, given that Leia was clearly talking about her real mother otherwise, what is the meaning of this dialogue). It's a pity that they didn't want to make a more adult and less lurid story out of this. On the other hand, that's why I'm not a fan of this universe as such, because these schematic black-and-white plots are the main ones in it. It's great that the series showed a different world.
Cassian is stirring up the rebellion, making ropes out of them. He may have left Luten, but he's ready to kill anyone for him, and now Diego has been given a speech to make. I like the scene with Cassian and Val. They have a story they fought together, comrades in arms, warm and sad. Now Val was the only one left who was on Aldani...
The characters are amazing in this series. We know who Partagaz is and what he did, but it's still scary for him. Like Dedra, he learns for himself what the empire has done and is doing. I am very glad that Wil, Val and Clay are alive. 🩷
The ending. I rarely cry over movies, but here. I'm roaring. I assumed that this would happen, but I didn't even dare to hope. You certainly look at the Outcast in a completely different way now. And now, when I review it, all I'll have to think about is that Bix and their child are waiting for Cassian...
That's all. End.
I was the one who was really looking forward to the series when there were only rumors about it, and when there were no rumors yet, I wanted such a project to appear. I wish there were more seasons, to live longer with these characters and see more of their interactions. But what Tony Gilroy has done is already a wonderful series that will definitely be in your favorites, a great gift and luck that it turned out to be so good. I liked Star Wars, but I didn't see my favorite character until I saw Rogue One in the movies. Cassian has become such a character.
The cherry on the glass cake was my favorite song from the series. Past/Present suite We heard it in the first season, where Maarva took Cassian away in parallel with his escape from Ferrix with Luten. The point of no return in his life And this last one
Cool. It's funny, but after watching the first three episodes, there were fears and doubts, but then the season accelerated so that it couldn't be stopped. And I am very glad that Andor left behind not only a legacy as a member of the rebellion, but also just as a person, the idea of having a child is my reverence. Basically, for the entire history of Andor (TV series+Rogue 1) and for the first season of the Mandolorian, Disney can be forgiven for all the other trash and fumes.
@RoyCooper: Why is that? Think of The Mandalorian. Too old, but do you want more fairy tales in space? There is a recent "Support Team". Do you need more animation and Jedi? There is an anthology of "Visions": her individual short films are gems.
Not all projects in the universe are good, of course, but you won't get bored.
I don't understand the general distrust of Luten, although he really gave them a whole rebel base, connected them all and covered them, being literally among strangers and in tension 24/7. No wonder Klea doubted the need to hide on Yavin. Andor was absolutely right that no one at the base sacrificed anything even close to what Luten sacrificed for the sake of the entire Uprising, and you can see how his death becomes a tragedy for those to whom he was close. Those who have seen him once in their lives or have only heard of him clearly don't really think about how he is, why, and why. Literally died for them, and for the sake of many other people, so that they would doubt him? Great, thanks.
I am very pleased that the Nemik manifesto is spreading throughout the galaxy and catching even the last imperial scum, appealing to the last grain of human essence inside. I am glad that Miro has finally found herself in a place where many have been before her for MUCH lesser deeds. The empire breaks both strangers and its own, and such a machine will destroy all those who disagree with it, crushing not only people, but entire planets under itself. Scary. And it's scary to watch Cassian walk towards his death, while the rest of the world- and the part he also built -continues to live.
I don't want to say goodbye. This part of the Star Wars universe occupies a separate warm corner in my heart. Thank you for Bi and the fact that he is not alone and happy.
Everything is fine, of course, but shortening the timekeeping did not benefit the series. Each new threesome feels like the beginning of another season, but in the end, only the finale with Gorman paid off. For every three episodes released, three more would be needed so that there would be no feeling of jumping over plot bumps. Well, or it was worth making each three an absolutely independent story with a sequel-shaped connection, rather than a direct one. 3 episodes of 40 minutes each is a 2-hour movie. Gilroy has a lot of experience here... I don't understand why he didn't do it, but followed the pattern of season 1. But it's still the best movie project of the Disney era. I'm sure they won't take that risk anymore.
PS It turned out that the main star of the series is not Diego Luna, or even Stellan Skarsgard, but Genevieve O'Reilly.
According to rogue one, it was clear that Luten would not live to see the events of the film , and one can only sympathize with the screenwriters, who twisted like snakes in a frying pan to kill him, which we end up with: a genius of espionage, able to get out of any situation, turns into a sacrificial exhibit , and that's all It was necessary to dial Andor and call an interplanetary taxi.
@Balysh: That's what happens when you want to cram in the wrong things in retrospect. We have to round off the ends. But at least Luten was treated professionally.
The story of the wife who took the child away to raise and harvest wheat while her hubby was fighting for the rebels...It reminds me of something.
And now we are reviewing the film together, now it is perceived in a different way, deeper or something... The scene with Bix is tearful, considering that Cassian never finds out about the baby
@1Atlair: I'm still amazed at how, under Disney, to make a prequel that drowned in reshoots and production hell, while turning out to be the best movie under Disney, and 10 years later to make a prequel prequel, and again to make the best, now a TV series, and surprise with the ending of the already well-known ending of the story!
The beginning of the season was a bit strange, but the second part is just beautiful! The outcast is now perceived in a completely different way.Although he used to be cool, now he is perceived even better!!!
anyone who liked the ending, but would like more, find a video clip on the Internet: "The ending of "Andor" synchronized with the end of the movie "Rogue One"". 🔥🔥🔥
I'm not a fan of the STAR universe, but I decided to take a look at Rogue One right away. Unfortunately, it didn't go down at all after the amazing Andor. Within the framework of the film, of course, it is impossible to prescribe the characters and politics at the Andor level, purely due to time constraints. But even the characters played by the same actors seemed like different people, flat and without much empathy.
@DEHiCKA: it's quite possible to prescribe, it's just that good screenwriters are needed and a good director is needed. And according to the chrono - yes, at least to cut out the stupid blind man who "beer flows in me, I am one with beer," and that's how long it will be free.
It was only in the last episode, looking at the series' screensaver, that I realized how symbolic the name of the main character is. Andor started the collapse of the Empire. Endor is the planet where the Empire ends.
Following the finale, Andora decided to review Rogue One, and I would like to note that for all the merits of the film (now it also includes, in fact, the existence of Andora), the series surpasses it in a number of aspects. Andor fully identifies itself as an independent project in the universe: no fanservice cameos, no recognizable soundtrack from Williams. Now it's a much darker, more dramatic and serious story (well, at least until the advent of K2). And, perhaps, the best after the original trilogy.
At the same time, the series is fully aware of itself as a prehistory, sacrificing the last episodes for the build-up to the events of the film, so that the film itself now feels like a long final 13th episode. Well, or 3 more regular ones, whatever you like)
In general, thanks to Gilroy and the entire creative team for such an outstanding and original ZV project, and to Disney for not dragging it out for several more seasons. Now they can with a clear conscience (no) shoot the next trilogy about Skywalkers, as they like.
Well, we finished well, I even wanted to review the film, as I understand it, I flew to Kafrin, and that's where the action of the film begins. There was a feeling during the second season that if the series had 8-10 episodes, it would not have lost anything. But nevertheless, the film and the series remain the best that came out under the Disney label.
In E L And H And E. Thanks to everyone involved in creating such a powerful touching story. As if even the current universe of stars doesn't deserve it) Eh, I wonder if there will be something like this in a galaxy far, far away..
I understand everything, but why did they devote so criminally little time to K-2SO, there was enough time for a whole mini-series. Some kind of human chauvinism.
I liked some of the scenes, apart from the rest, they were almost at the level of the first season. But in general it is bad. Conceptually bad. It's like the Hormone was supposed to be the core plot, but no, it just ends at some point and... what? But nothing, well, here's a Sirril for you. Or Miro. Somehow, by itself, she was supposed to confront, investigate, and chase after the Rebels. But she's not doing any fucking at all. Just nothing. Then the timekeeping ends, so she tries to arrest Luten. And that's it again. Why is she even in this season? Dr. Horn had a more meaningful role. Andor, by the way, well, at least he's trying to do something. Sometimes it goes away, sometimes it doesn't go away. It goes from there, but there. But in general, you need to check and reread the title to remind you that in the first season it was a named series. About him, Andor fate. And now what? And the sister in the dream? This is bullying, but we remember that we had it before. And this passage is pathetic at the end, oh. And that's where you don't poke. Do you know what it looks like? They shot everything in a row without any plan or script. And then all the footage was lost... they pretended to mount it, but in fact they just dumped it in a pile and gave it out in this form. And you can kick the details as much as you want, but it's an unstructured pile as a whole. And of course, the expectations raised after the first season do not help to treat this more calmly. Disappointed.
I watched it, and I still didn't understand the general enthusiasm. The opinion will be unpopular.
Star Wars has its own set of chips and features, for which they are loved, and one way or another they are present in all releases in the franchise, except for this series. For example, how to make a TV series based on Tolkien, and remove all magic, hobbits, elves, orcs, dwarves, monsters from Middle-Earth - and leave only people with shields and swords. I wouldn't mind watching something about ordinary people in the universe, both inside the Empire and among the rebels, but here's a magnificent Rogue One who did a great job with it, while not losing the Star Wars feature, and organically joined the family (and even removing Vader from the finale wouldn't have ruined the movie much). In principle, there is no need to link to stars in Andor, if we have to change the style so radically and carefully erase all the key features of the franchise, then it would be more honest to remove it with a separate Sci-Fi series. Otherwise, there's only one name left of the stars. Honestly, if it's so beautiful, would you recommend it as an entry point to the franchise for people who are just about to explore a galaxy far, far away?
The script is also sad. The story arcs don't line up in the general plot, they are thrown in the middle of the road. Did Cassian get any weapons in the beginning? And then what happened to him? It doesn't matter. Should I close the arch with Gorman properly? But why. Cassian himself disappears and reappears, and hangs out somewhere in the background. "A year later".
Well, the endless chatter about nothing that makes you want to climb the wall. The timing definitely had to be cut, in both seasons. Watching the grass grow and the paint dry is much more exciting.
I'll just mention literally a couple of very tasty episodes, the prison/labor camp in the first season, and the Gorman uprising in the second. Everything was fine here, the tension was great. For their sake, I don't regret watching it anyway. But in general... No, I don't understand high marks and universal happiness.
@giftsvamp: and what possible entry points to the universe besides episodes 1 and 4?Like, of course, I can't recommend Andor as an entry point, because it's actually a huge universe with its own timeline, you can't just start watching something without a basis, at least in 6 movies.No other work fits this criterion in the same way, so you always have only 2 options — this is episode 1 or 4.
@giftsvamp: but at the same time, andor can be recommended as an independent work outside the context of sound.Hardly anyone has any doubts that this is definitely the best series of this and 22 years, as well as one of the best series in the last 30 years.
@giftsvamp: I also liked the production of the whole season. I sat with a stopwatch for a couple of episodes. Few scenes lasted longer than a minute) usually 40s))
All good things come to an end, don't they? But it's a great project. An adult, sometimes uncompromising. In the known universe. It's definitely worth the time!
The main advantage of the final arc is that watching Episode 4 can now be stretched over half a day: the three-part finale of "Andor" seamlessly transitions into "Rogue One," which is essentially an introduction to "A New Hope."
Honestly, who else hasn't reviewed a full-length classic in this way right after the show's finale? ;)
If you say that the season was on fire and we've already seen the ending in the movie, you'll be flattened. If you say that everything was so-so, you will be hushed up.
@bazatron: When people agree, they give in. When they disagree, they ignore it, everything is extremely simple. And judging by your conclusion, most people rather liked the season than not. And I don't know what kind of special truth you have there that others can't reach, but I'm glad for you that you have it. Well, keep it simple, don't bother with numbers and you won't have to suffer because of it.
While we were talking about them forgetting the poor guy, they remembered about baby B2EMO and also showed Bix and lyalka! But it's a pity, all the same, that Cassian didn't meet them at least in between:(
@mandrygin95: Oh, come on, if Cassian really wanted to meet, he would have found her out of the ground. Especially since Val knew where she was. He just let her go until they won, because, as he himself said, "she'll be safer there than with me."
@Kentavr: Hadn't Andor told Klee that the rebel base was the safest place? And so, yes, Bix was safe - she hid in the same place where she killed the officer, because no one would surely look for her there)
In fact, I have only one complaint: these are broad strokes for the history of the rebels. Yes, you seem to understand that Luten gave the first spark for the uprising with his terrorist antics. And then what? How did it happen that all the people eventually gathered on Yavin? Yes, this is a story about people first of all, about their desires and motives. But it seems to me that it would have been better to score this funeral, rather than three episodes, like Andor lying face down in the jungle in the company of freaks. Otherwise, it's a complete and normal story for once. Everyone has their own story, everyone has their own motives, everyone follows the logic of their character and completes their arc at a new point. Everyone got their metamorphosis or logical end as Luten. It may sound poetic, but the one who gave the first spark eventually burned down in the fire he created. And I probably would have shifted the emphasis a bit in this story anyway. Yes, it's cool that the story of the uprising is told through human destinies, but it was also cool to take the time to see how an entire military base on Yavin with a regular army and an impressive fleet was created from scattered groups of rebels.
@Lighthouse012: I agree. I have always been interested in the topic of supply, rebellious systems with their own infrastructure, specialists and the production of cruisers, fighters, where pilots come from, not from ads.
Well, who drinks glasses for the dead? Was Mon Mothma's sister on the show just to justify the hair color in the last episode? But the ending drew the background of Andor well, and that he didn't just die in Exile, but for the future of his beloved with a child, it's just cool here. But with his sister, they only hinted, an incomprehensible arch, why was she needed?
@Doctor_13: My sister is needed by her absence, because of this, Andor has a lifelong trauma that he could not save her, and therefore he constantly returns and saves everyone.
A man who didn't watch the MOVIE managed to make a much better and more interesting project for the franchise than its main fans, Filoni and Hadland, imho. Maybe it's not about knowing LORE after all. Honestly, after all the Asoka and Acolytes, this series is like a breath of fresh air. The uprising lives on hope. So we will be, hoping one day to see something as bright and useful as Andor in the ZV universe.
@Captain_Rex: but she took on a screenwriter who didn't know anything about her. Ostensibly to introduce novelty. And clearly following Gilroy's example). So this move is definitely not a guarantee of success.
@Captain_Rex: still not worth watching Acolytes? I'm not a fan of sounds and I'm not hurt by inconsistencies. I just like this universe and atmosphere.
@Ardenaziz: Well, everyone is different. Maybe you'll like it. Therefore, I agree with the previous commentator: try watching a couple of episodes and decide for yourself whether you like it or not)
Ha. Rogue 1 is now the series finale. Without a break, Andor the Outcast is a new hope. Kathleen Kennedy (president of Lucasfilm), in theory, can cram the Persians of the popular Andor into the 4th season of mando or even into a movie. Ando and Mando😉 Val, Clay, Bix and her 10-year-old child, or even Dedru🤣 Kennedy is capable of anything...
As for Dedra in prison, "The first night in prison is the most difficult. They take you all over the prison naked, dazed from reading the Bible, with burnt skin and half-blind after disinfection. And when the lock in the camera snaps shut, you realize that all this is reality." Escape from Shawshank. I wonder if she will be released under the new republic? as amnesties after the overthrow of the Emperor in the February revolution of 1917
all the rogue actors have been returned, but the other Bail Organa "hurts the eye." It's good that you remembered about B2EMO
🧅 Mon of course camping field 1st Mon Caroline Blakiston, by the way, is still alive - 92 years old! She was born when Hitler had just come to power on February 13, 1933. If only they would show how Luten and Mon met. the scene appeared. The rebel alliance from Revenge of the Sith is cut out, but for me it's canon. https://youtu.be/H3dLn8X7R_U?si=dq5Q5DAQUZ_8KJ8R& ;t=300 according to the timeline of the 1st appearance. mon at 20 bby and last at 9 aby - ahsoka.
No matter how they criticize it, but at the moment for me Andor is Star Wars for adults, even those people who loved the good old Star Wars, and not the latest Disney movies. The Mandalorian is the second good franchise, but it has already been adapted for a new generation of players. Andor is clearly not the level of the series where you need to get to the bottom of the details and inconsistencies, because even so it's worth a lot to show the world and these events, which are very few.
Although Andor loses its momentum in places, it still holds its mark, inspires like previous films. I love the feeling after watching it, and here the directors manage to achieve it. Bravo!
@-TraumfraU-: As noted here, we need to continue watching the finale in Rogue One (2016), and then immediately after the finale of Rogue One, watch Episode IV. A New Hope (1977) - as it is a single seamless narrative. And it's a masterpiece!
@Ardenaziz: Lucas had the idea that this was the middle of the whole story from the beginning, the numbering did not appear immediately, but much earlier than the Hidden Threat, already in episode V (although only in the credits)
@Ardenaziz: I watched "Episode IV" back in the 80s, back in Soviet times, on video (right at school, after lessons). The movie originally had such a number. What caused confusion: "Where can I get other parts to look at?" :-) Wikipedia and the Internet did not exist then. And it was difficult to find out where to find other parts. It was only over time that it became clear that there was a sequel in the form of parts V and VI, but the first three parts did not exist at all by that time :-).
@bond-film: in the 80s, it was added, specifically in 1981, after the release of part 5, Lucas re-released the film, then both the serial number and the subtitle "A New Hope" appeared, initially the film was simply called Star Wars. Subsequently, the film was re-released more than once, and every other time Lucas changed or redid something in it. You can compare, for example, in the Youtube video "All Changes Made to Star Wars:A New Hope (Re-upload)"
The series is amazing! I was waiting for the end of the working day to watch each new episode. But I probably won't say anything new here. But on the topic of how Dedra finished, I can recommend the movie "Captain Volkonogov ran." He's just saying that no matter how hard you work for the system, it's going to eat you up anyway.
Shtosh... I watched the second season to the end, let the comments brew, and the emotions ripen...And I'm so disappointed.
After the first season, my expectations were probably too high. And what did you actually get: 1. As in the first season, neither shaky nor shaky reached the 3rd / 4th episode, after which at least some movement began; 2. The presence of some characters in the series as de facto extras; 3. Mental anguish / behavior model of a number of characters by the authors, the authors often leave it to the viewer to understand this. Without explaining it in any way. It just happened that way; 4. These skips were wildly infuriating at the age of 1. When they were in the theater, the scriptwriters again masked plot holes, putting the viewer right into the scene/situation.; 5. And of course, the Chekhov's gun trick, alas, was too often used in plotting the storyline...
In order to dilute Haight's barrel, I must note that I really liked the episode where young Luten takes custody of a girl. The scenes and dialogues sound motivating, very correct, especially in the present time (it will always be relevant). And in general, the episode with the child without any screams or sobs was, in my opinion, the strongest. When how * the suffering of more adult colleagues during the season very often looked unconvincing, deliberate.
Thank God the season is over. I'm going to review Rouge one. So far, everything is still the best of the new model. Well, maybe Bob Fat's book and the first seasons of Mandabor
In fact, you can see how they galloped to close everything. All these "3 years before the battle, 2 years before the battle, 1 year before the battle" were clearly supposed to be whole seasons, not 3 episodes each.
Discussion of the 12 episode of the 2 season Discuss this episode
173But how annoying is the distrust from other rebels. Moreover, it is quite understandable, the risk of disinformation, sabotage, and espionage is incredibly high. And we, as viewers, know much more than they do. But still... Annoy.
It was obviously clear that the series should not expect some kind of bright ending, since it is served by Rogue One. And yet it's as if something is missing...
It is unfortunate that Tony Gilroy has stated that he has no plans to continue working on Star Wars in any capacity. But I really hope that Disney and Lucasfilm will take note of how much the viewers liked the series — and what they really expect from the franchise.
Imho, this is a big joint - a gun that never fired.
The whole episode with Clay's rescue is amazing. And the anticipation, and the fun, and the heavy fire. And K2, who saved everyone)
And now it was clear why Bix had left. Up to this point, her motivation had been a bit strange, to put it bluntly. And, I must say, I did not expect at all that it would turn out to be pregnancy.
A fantastic series. It's sad that it's over
A small disadvantage, of course, is that this is the end of the story in a separate film. But fortunately it has been removed for a long time and it can be easily viewed.
I'll take a look at it now.
And I'll review Andor myself someday.
It's sad to say goodbye to the characters :(
Dedra's in jail, huh)
Thanks to Gilroy for the series, I'm going to watch Rogue One.
And then there will be a klepatt slop from Filoni the clown, where he will again publish ideas from the expanded universe, appropriate them for himself, and make them into fanservice garbage.
I really liked the ending, and it was supposed to be calm. Most of all, I liked the scene with Partagas, who listened to Nemik's manifesto before his death and thought about who wrote it, it seemed to be so ideological, but in the end he seemed to realize that the Empire was going to collapse. In general, I wonder how they got rid of him, Dedra (who did so much for the Empire) was thrown into prison, but this general, who screwed up so many times, calmly continues to work, just because he is a friend of Krennik. I liked this moment, there's something about this outcome for the characters.
For me, this is the best project in terms of the characters (and the cast is all great), the plot, the shooting... yes, everything is perfectly done in almost every aspect, I would never have thought that the project for a character from Rogue One would be so amazing and keep the bar high from the first to the last episode. There are so many wonderful dialogues and scenes that keep you in suspense - Tony Gilroy has created a miracle, I'm not even sure that there will be a similar project in the STAR universe. It's a pity, of course, that we didn't get 5 seasons, but thank you so much for 2.
It's unlikely that anything better came out in the universe, and it's unlikely that anything better will come out already.
That's what Star Wars is, and that's why we all love them.
If Andor doesn't pick up the Emmy this year, I do not know what is wrong with these critics, but it will be a double theft.
Hello, Rogue One!
Mon Mothma is now, I think, indistinguishable from the original, the actress was well chosen.
And I've been Gluing Glue for a long time, I think it's more suitable for Val than Synth.
In principle, everything is as it should be, this is a great exposition for the upcoming final. An exposition in the best sense, of course.
All the pieces are in place and ready. The gears of samsara spun.
Thank you for explaining about Bix, as I had a complaint about her motivation to leave Andor. Now everything is logical and understandable.
An outstanding piece, at the same time, which would not have been possible to imagine without the effect that Rogue One had. This is the case when everything turned out perfectly.
The first season was amazing for its quality and plots. The second one turned out to be quieter in terms of drive, sometimes even sleepy, but in terms of quality and elaboration of both the characters and the atmosphere of what is happening, this is simply a great level.
Yes, something human appeared in her only when she realized that she was fucked up - before that, she was absolutely sure that she was right and unpunished. That's who the fanatic in this story is, so it's definitely her.
In the episode with Cyril's mother, they said that she had no parents, she grew up in a special home and she didn't even understand why they sympathized with her.
..It's really not clear what kind of magic school this is. There are 19 years between Revenge of the Sith and a New Hope. Dedre is clearly around 30.
It is not known what kind of Suvorov military school it was where children were trained to become officers from the cradle back in the days of the Republic.
Yes, it is. Because when Rouge One was being shot, Andor was obviously in question as a project. I had to assemble an even more controversial character than Han Solo was at one time ...
It took almost 8-9 years, the idea of the series appeared, and then, literally on the spot, it was necessary to somehow make the viewer empathize, "Root" for the hero. That's why you're sitting like this and you don't believe in anything.
Dedra, yes, was the most complete. Even on probation, she worked for the benefit of the Empire. The rest of the characters (well, except mb Mov) don't seem consistent.
Andor in the series and Andor in the movie seem to be very different characters...But that's definitely not the problem with this series.
P.S. If I remember correctly, on Star Wars Celebration, the penultimate one talked about the return of Andy Serkis this season, but it was never shown. Was it cut out? Or did I just miss it in a cameo?
Kasian died without knowing that he had become a father😡
any adequate comment with a question about logic is fiercely opposed) but I agree
Rogue One: Star Wars / Rogue One
Andor is not a series about Cassian and only about the victims and sufferings of the Rebels, the inhabitants oppressed by totalitarian regimes, lies of propaganda, injustice. Unfortunately, we are now living in a period when lies have a louder voice, but there is hope that resistance will help strengthen the truth.
Thanks to the second season for not reducing the quality of the first season.
The characters, their actions, and their fates are so well written that the series can be reviewed and reviewed.
As it turned out, third-party experimental projects on what seemed to be faded sounds can still be of high quality, and Andor gives hope that such projects may still appear.
Thanks to the creators
A good ending was prescribed for Dedra in prison for the production of Death Star parts, where Cas had once been imprisoned. Mon's ex-husband was rather caricatured with a new lady who abuses alcohol. It's a pitiful sight …
After such an emotional finale of the series, I ran to review Rogue, otherwise I watched it once in a cinema in 2016. …
It was eventually cut out, but technically it could have happened behind the scenes and thus brought the spouses of the traitors together.
I know how it's going to end, and that fact made me sad and sad, but after the last scene where Bix is with the baby, it was like I let go...✌️
The characters are amazing in this series. We know who Partagaz is and what he did, but it's still scary for him. Like Dedra, he learns for himself what the empire has done and is doing. I am very glad that Wil, Val and Clay are alive. 🩷
The ending. I rarely cry over movies, but here. I'm roaring. I assumed that this would happen, but I didn't even dare to hope. You certainly look at the Outcast in a completely different way now. And now, when I review it, all I'll have to think about is that Bix and their child are waiting for Cassian...
That's all. End.
I was the one who was really looking forward to the series when there were only rumors about it, and when there were no rumors yet, I wanted such a project to appear. I wish there were more seasons, to live longer with these characters and see more of their interactions. But what Tony Gilroy has done is already a wonderful series that will definitely be in your favorites, a great gift and luck that it turned out to be so good.
I liked Star Wars, but I didn't see my favorite character until I saw Rogue One in the movies. Cassian has become such a character.
Goodbye Cassian
Past/Present suite
We heard it in the first season, where Maarva took Cassian away in parallel with his escape from Ferrix with Luten.
The point of no return in his life
And this last one
Not all projects in the universe are good, of course, but you won't get bored.
I am very pleased that the Nemik manifesto is spreading throughout the galaxy and catching even the last imperial scum, appealing to the last grain of human essence inside. I am glad that Miro has finally found herself in a place where many have been before her for MUCH lesser deeds.
The empire breaks both strangers and its own, and such a machine will destroy all those who disagree with it, crushing not only people, but entire planets under itself. Scary.
And it's scary to watch Cassian walk towards his death, while the rest of the world- and the part he also built -continues to live.
I don't want to say goodbye. This part of the Star Wars universe occupies a separate warm corner in my heart. Thank you for Bi and the fact that he is not alone and happy.
But it's still the best movie project of the Disney era. I'm sure they won't take that risk anymore.
PS It turned out that the main star of the series is not Diego Luna, or even Stellan Skarsgard, but Genevieve O'Reilly.
, and one can only sympathize with the screenwriters, who twisted like snakes in a frying pan to kill him,
which we end up with: a genius of espionage, able to get out of any situation, turns into a sacrificial exhibit
, and that's all It was necessary to dial Andor and call an interplanetary taxi.
We have to round off the ends. But at least Luten was treated professionally.
The story of the wife who took the child away to raise and harvest wheat while her hubby was fighting for the rebels...It reminds me of something.
find a video clip on the Internet:
"The ending of "Andor" synchronized with the end of the movie "Rogue One"".
🔥🔥🔥
Unfortunately, it didn't go down at all after the amazing Andor.
Within the framework of the film, of course, it is impossible to prescribe the characters and politics at the Andor level, purely due to time constraints.
But even the characters played by the same actors seemed like different people, flat and without much empathy.
Andor started the collapse of the Empire.
Endor is the planet where the Empire ends.
At the same time, the series is fully aware of itself as a prehistory, sacrificing the last episodes for the build-up to the events of the film, so that the film itself now feels like a long final 13th episode. Well, or 3 more regular ones, whatever you like)
In general, thanks to Gilroy and the entire creative team for such an outstanding and original ZV project, and to Disney for not dragging it out for several more seasons. Now they can with a clear conscience (no) shoot the next trilogy about Skywalkers, as they like.
There was a feeling during the second season that if the series had 8-10 episodes, it would not have lost anything. But nevertheless, the film and the series remain the best that came out under the Disney label.
Thanks to everyone involved in creating such a powerful touching story. As if even the current universe of stars doesn't deserve it)
Eh, I wonder if there will be something like this in a galaxy far, far away..
But in general it is bad. Conceptually bad.
It's like the Hormone was supposed to be the core plot, but no, it just ends at some point and... what? But nothing, well, here's a Sirril for you.
Or Miro. Somehow, by itself, she was supposed to confront, investigate, and chase after the Rebels. But she's not doing any fucking at all. Just nothing. Then the timekeeping ends, so she tries to arrest Luten. And that's it again. Why is she even in this season? Dr. Horn had a more meaningful role.
Andor, by the way, well, at least he's trying to do something. Sometimes it goes away, sometimes it doesn't go away. It goes from there, but there. But in general, you need to check and reread the title to remind you that in the first season it was a named series. About him, Andor fate. And now what?
And the sister in the dream? This is bullying, but we remember that we had it before. And this passage is pathetic at the end, oh.
And that's where you don't poke. Do you know what it looks like? They shot everything in a row without any plan or script. And then all the footage was lost... they pretended to mount it, but in fact they just dumped it in a pile and gave it out in this form. And you can kick the details as much as you want, but it's an unstructured pile as a whole.
And of course, the expectations raised after the first season do not help to treat this more calmly.
Disappointed.
Star Wars has its own set of chips and features, for which they are loved, and one way or another they are present in all releases in the franchise, except for this series. For example, how to make a TV series based on Tolkien, and remove all magic, hobbits, elves, orcs, dwarves, monsters from Middle-Earth - and leave only people with shields and swords. I wouldn't mind watching something about ordinary people in the universe, both inside the Empire and among the rebels, but here's a magnificent Rogue One who did a great job with it, while not losing the Star Wars feature, and organically joined the family (and even removing Vader from the finale wouldn't have ruined the movie much). In principle, there is no need to link to stars in Andor, if we have to change the style so radically and carefully erase all the key features of the franchise, then it would be more honest to remove it with a separate Sci-Fi series. Otherwise, there's only one name left of the stars. Honestly, if it's so beautiful, would you recommend it as an entry point to the franchise for people who are just about to explore a galaxy far, far away?
The script is also sad. The story arcs don't line up in the general plot, they are thrown in the middle of the road. Did Cassian get any weapons in the beginning? And then what happened to him? It doesn't matter. Should I close the arch with Gorman properly? But why. Cassian himself disappears and reappears, and hangs out somewhere in the background. "A year later".
Well, the endless chatter about nothing that makes you want to climb the wall. The timing definitely had to be cut, in both seasons. Watching the grass grow and the paint dry is much more exciting.
I'll just mention literally a couple of very tasty episodes, the prison/labor camp in the first season, and the Gorman uprising in the second. Everything was fine here, the tension was great. For their sake, I don't regret watching it anyway. But in general... No, I don't understand high marks and universal happiness.
That's it, ready to be shot)
I sat with a stopwatch for a couple of episodes. Few scenes lasted longer than a minute) usually 40s))
The main advantage of the final arc is that watching Episode 4 can now be stretched over half a day: the three-part finale of "Andor" seamlessly transitions into "Rogue One," which is essentially an introduction to "A New Hope."
Honestly, who else hasn't reviewed a full-length classic in this way right after the show's finale? ;)
If you say that everything was so-so, you will be hushed up.
And the truth is, nobody needs it here.
And I don't know what kind of special truth you have there that others can't reach, but I'm glad for you that you have it.
Well, keep it simple, don't bother with numbers and you won't have to suffer because of it.
And so, yes, Bix was safe - she hid in the same place where she killed the officer, because no one would surely look for her there)
It remains to watch Rogue One, refresh your memory.
Honestly, after all the Asoka and Acolytes, this series is like a breath of fresh air.
The uprising lives on hope. So we will be, hoping one day to see something as bright and useful as Andor in the ZV universe.
Kathleen Kennedy (president of Lucasfilm), in theory, can cram the Persians of the popular Andor into the 4th season of mando or even into a movie. Ando and Mando😉 Val, Clay, Bix and her 10-year-old child, or even Dedru🤣 Kennedy is capable of anything...
As for Dedra in prison, "The first night in prison is the most difficult. They take you all over the prison naked, dazed from reading the Bible, with burnt skin and half-blind after disinfection. And when the lock in the camera snaps shut, you realize that all this is reality." Escape from Shawshank.
I wonder if she will be released under the new republic? as amnesties after the overthrow of the Emperor in the February revolution of 1917
all the rogue actors have been returned, but the other Bail Organa "hurts the eye."
It's good that you remembered about B2EMO
🧅 Mon of course camping field
1st Mon Caroline Blakiston, by the way, is still alive - 92 years old! She was born when Hitler had just come to power on February 13, 1933. If
only they would show how Luten and Mon met.
the scene appeared. The rebel alliance from Revenge of the Sith is cut out, but for me it's canon.
https://youtu.be/H3dLn8X7R_U?si=dq5Q5DAQUZ_8KJ8R& ;t=300
according to the timeline of the 1st appearance. mon at 20 bby and last at 9 aby - ahsoka.
Although Andor loses its momentum in places, it still holds its mark, inspires like previous films. I love the feeling after watching it, and here the directors manage to achieve it. Bravo!
The movie originally had such a number. What caused confusion: "Where can I get other parts to look at?" :-) Wikipedia and the Internet did not exist then. And it was difficult to find out where to find other parts. It was only over time that it became clear that there was a sequel in the form of parts V and VI, but the first three parts did not exist at all by that time :-).
But on the topic of how Dedra finished, I can recommend the movie "Captain Volkonogov ran." He's just saying that no matter how hard you work for the system, it's going to eat you up anyway.
After the first season, my expectations were probably too high. And what did you actually get:
1. As in the first season, neither shaky nor shaky reached the 3rd / 4th episode, after which at least some movement began;
2. The presence of some characters in the series as de facto extras;
3. Mental anguish / behavior model of a number of characters by the authors, the authors often leave it to the viewer to understand this. Without explaining it in any way. It just happened that way;
4. These skips were wildly infuriating at the age of 1. When they were in the theater, the scriptwriters again masked plot holes, putting the viewer right into the scene/situation.;
5. And of course, the Chekhov's gun trick, alas, was too often used in plotting the storyline...
In order to dilute Haight's barrel, I must note that I really liked the episode where young Luten takes custody of a girl. The scenes and dialogues sound motivating, very correct, especially in the present time (it will always be relevant).
And in general, the episode with the child without any screams or sobs was, in my opinion, the strongest. When how * the suffering of more adult colleagues during the season very often looked unconvincing, deliberate.
Thank God the season is over. I'm going to review Rouge one. So far, everything is still the best of the new model. Well, maybe Bob Fat's book and the first seasons of Mandabor
All these "3 years before the battle, 2 years before the battle, 1 year before the battle" were clearly supposed to be whole seasons, not 3 episodes each.