s07e01 — Common People
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| Duration: | 57 min. |
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421I would not like the participation of any big stars, it would be better to focus on the plot, return to the roots.
I liked the idea of subscriptions - here's a free feature for you, but to make everything work later, connect a subscription. Connected? Well done, but here's an advertisement for you, because you're currently on the cheapest tariff, but if you upgrade, you'll get more buns... And so on ad infinitum.
But in general, I don't understand, movies and TV series should only be those where only at the end is it clear what is being said here?
The best compliment 🤣 🤣 🤣
The whole episode, I still thought that the company would go bankrupt or something. And if you don't pay a subscription, does the company kill people? Or what
The cynical use of desperate people to make money, and the upgrade can be used indefinitely, for sure, even if they find the money to pay for the next super tariff, new difficulties will arise that require additional payments and upgrades. And all the initial settings like the increasing sleep mode and ads were by default and in small print.
I'll never understand it, because I want to feel the art.
My English makes it possible to understand only half of the series, and I can only afford to be distracted by subs when reviewing
The Witches have grown a lot, and their voice acting is already not much inferior to lostfilm.
I also add that they are having a hard time pulling, despite the fact that she continues to work, and he is just plowing, and the child means minus her salary.
The series is gorgeous, but this moment spoiled the impression, and badly.
Although xs of course, yes...
is good, they keep the bar of previous seasons
. Strong love can lead to unhealthy actions
. I like the morality of the series (and the whole series)
sometimes it's so easy to forget…
Gg's husband did a great job for giving such support and managing to organize a family vacation at the same time. I just didn't understand one thing, in the end they didn't pay at all, or did they pay a minimal subscription, because there were advertising inserts? And what would happen if there was no payment at all, endless sleep, a la server to support others?
Of course, the situation with updated subscriptions is interesting.
And it's like in life, it's hard to be content with what you have and start looking for something better, but you can't afford it.
It's not like it's a program or a game that you get a disc from, or that you download from an offline site, and then smart people edit its code so that it can't be used officially. So piracy is simply impossible in this particular episode.🤷🏻♀️
P.S. Sorry-sorry for the off-topic comments.
The system that we were shown in the series is terrible and satirical. But: in front of us are two adults who are planning a baby and even, oh my God, bought a playpen in advance. But for me, all their actions are like the decisions of half-blind teenagers who are just beginning to live. I know what a job is and have been working since I was 17. I know what it's like to be out of a job and change your profession completely and radically when you're in your early thirties. And you collect your ass and act, because you know that it depends only on you how well you will live. (I've never had a dad or a sponsor.) And then the dude worked, got drunk and went for "easy" money. For me, it was also a parallel to the webcam. I'm not judging, but it's kind of um. If a person makes such a choice, it is his choice. But there are a lot of opportunities and options around how to earn more.
Once again: the series, as an illustration of the subscription system for life, is a tin can.
Actions of gg - kindergarten.
There are questions for the welder, but there are fewer of them.
P.S. Like most people, I don't understand how people plan for a child when $300 creates such a collapse.
I think, nevertheless, either the characters' brains are not sharpened enough to radically bang and change their thinking. My parents also have no idea how people make millions on YouTube, even in theory, for them it's a dense forest. Plus, it's easy to panic in a stressful environment, it's hard to think straight when you need to right now, take it out and put it down.
I was rather confused by the fact that neither he nor she had accumulated any loans and microloans. It's like in general ... it's the first thought that should be, and not to pull out your teeth :/ COLLECT DEBTS!
You pay for a subscription, bam, and your wife is a world-class pianist. Bam, and tomorrow she's painting a painting as good as Leonardo Da Vinci.
I would like to string an owl on a globe and say that people in their world are bored of this and just give them all sorts of humiliating tin, but I doubt it very much.
There's an average family in the series. If you look around a bit, then the average family is ordinary people. Not entrepreneurs, not businessmen, not freelancers, but ordinary hard workers.
They work as taxi drivers, movers, couriers, waiters, secretaries, teachers, doctors, military personnel, salesmen, etc.
And the income varies from region to region, but everything is roughly in the same stream and in the same standard of living, with similar concerns, with a similar context. There is a "seasonality", when, for example, military guys are more needed and they are paid more, turners are more needed, and couriers or taxi drivers or IT specialists are more needed. But it's all about hiring, and to earn above average, you need to work hard. And(!) everyone has an "unlimited number of opportunities" to become the best in their field, become an entrepreneur, become a blogger or something else, but this is not as important as you wrote. But to do this, you need to be able to take risks, be able to see opportunities, be able to take great responsibility and go into the unknown, be able to manage money, loans, connections, and so on- and this is difficult. Ordinary "average" teachers, doctors, and hard workers don't take out loans for all the money and don't start a business. Usually they just take out a loan for a car and an apartment, and then pay it off. It's clearer, it's more necessary, it's more familiar. And this is the norm in a sense - an ordinary family, an ordinary life.
Most people are not Elon Musk, Oleg Tinkov, Jeff Bezos or Trump. Most people just live their lives, in their standard of living and being, in their comfort, in the understanding that they have developed since childhood, from the environment. And in this series, it's just ordinary people, the charm of the family is average. It was even lucky that they didn't have debts for an apartment, a car and a phone, on the contrary, they even had savings - well done.
In general, you can throw a lot of ideas at them, it's the same as coming to the "factory" and telling everyone first to go take a chance and do something "risky")))))
I shake your hand for a good idea. I'm sure someone would really have found a way to monetize LUx and increase their capital, but in this case it's an ordinary family, ordinary hard workers. We lived as we could, loved as we could, and acted as we could.
At one time, there were those who earned money by creating websites on their phones. Then on computers, on courses, on the crypt. Now there are those who will earn money in AI - but this is not about the average hard worker and teacher. These are precisely the exceptions from the general mass of people.
But here, of course, everything is scarier, because the choice is to live or not to live.
It's a great start to the season, hopefully the rest of the series will be in the same spirit.
Okay, we've moved away from last season's format.
We've already answered a similar comment there, I won't repeat it, I'll just say that ordinary people can't change jobs so easily.
But I also think that killing is too much, you could have tried to find another way out. (It couldn't be worse!)
But also disable it... Because of the ads?! Pf... People live with the worst.
It's a pity for the main characters. And I don't feel sorry for the little shit that got crushed. It's not from a good life that people flaunt their humiliations.
I am delighted with the love of this wonderful man for his wife, it's just incredible.
I was a little surprised by the moment with the money. I thought it was $300. this is quite a normal amount for such a subscription. Therefore, I agree with the commentators above.
But, as it turned out, this is only the basic version, and then comes the standard +, then the deluxe, and the amounts are already under $ 1,000. per month. In such circumstances, it is not surprising that it will be difficult for the heroine to feel like she is not a walking advertisement.
But the husband is just gold. I am ready to do anything for the sake of my beloved, and this commands respect. It was because of him that the ending turned out to be especially sad and touched to the core.
A separate line with an unsuccessful conception of a child is even more disheartening.
The idea of life subscriptions is interesting, but we could have developed it more steeply.
Overall, a good start to the season.
It took me 10 minutes of watching to decide that this was NOT a meta commentary by the authors, after all, but that the reality today is much closer to that series than it was when it was released.
Besides Google, there are other search engines, what prevents you from using them?The mention of Google is just a common expression that means "find it yourself, there's a lot of such places on the Internet." Well, if you regularly watch it like that, don't you have your favorite sites saved? Khdrezka, sizonvar, maidef and hundreds more😑
But this is already on the threshold of reality.
After such episodes, you really wonder where it's better to be yourself with your basic personality settings, feelings, and experiences, without any outside interference from technology. At least it's sincere, as far as I'm concerned.
It's a good start to the season, right in the style of the old episodes.
on the website where I'm watching black mirror right now, there are ads in the episodes - and it was in this episode that it looked insanely ironic... I have a feeling that this episode has greatly increased my anxiety in the near future.💔
The story is like playing in a casino, when you want more, more, but you don't have the money, but you can't stop.
As if it would be easier to say goodbye to all the gadgets and somehow consciously let the person go to a better world than to torment both yourself and him..It's just a program.
In short, I feel sorry most of all for the guy who tore his ass, but in the end he was still left with nothing and this end could have been predicted (
well, what's wrong with these subscriptions? Yes, this is our reality, it's probably been normal for 10 years.
But subscribing to life as part of this series looked weak.If they had focused on the site through which gg earned money, it would have been a different matter. But there would be a self-repetition😶
I didn't have any vivid emotions left after watching it.
Relevance is good, but I fell in love with the first seasons not for that, but for the freshness, the attempt to look into the future, and the satire on the world around me.
I really hoped for a return to the roots.
Half of the series is just some kind of passing series, I sometimes thought, is this really a CHZ? "References to previous episodes are generally ridiculous. Well, there is no longer that frightening and oppressive situation when you worry about the characters or can't tear yourself away from the screen because it's unclear what will happen next!
The story is just zilch.
Very sorry. I was glad to see Chris, but as if anyone could have played that role. Nothing special. The ending leaves no emotion. No.
And there should be a bitter aftertaste from the fact that some corporation uses people as advertising radios and profits from human grief, and nothing will change, but it will only get worse. I've never had that before. Just watch and forget.
Yes, I agree with you. The truth is absurd.
according to the script from the series, it offers to change the tariff, "otherwise... the unlimited cost is 4 rubles per day ...
if not... you will not be able to return"
Beeline, you will turn into a megaphone on my phone with the number saved
The episode is steeped in hopelessness and irony; personally, I was struck by the seemingly cynical way the Rivermind representative sniffed her product for a while, and the hair on her head was moving a little. It's a scary situation, but the innovation itself is fascinating, damn it! Pay if you want to live comfortably and pleasantly, aren't these our realities? Yes, the toggle switch is turned to the maximum, but sometimes only such techniques help us realize something.
It's great fiction, the actors are playing well, and I'm happy with the series. I'm really looking forward to the last one, I really loved the Callister series)
It's scary, very scary. Our whole life is a subscription:starting from small things like movies and music, ending with a subscription to an apartment (rent, taxes, mortgages). A very ironic and very sad episode:(
It's too bad that the minimum tariff has been made so unattractive that it's easier to die, which means they lose their multi-year subscription fee. Well, these are minor quibbles.
and it seems quite logical to me that she fired the boy, because she advertised Orthodox therapy to the boy, and the girl, who was reassured about the old shoes, looked very cynically advertised new nikes, and it would be fine if she only contacted adults, but at least it is difficult for children to explain the whole situation, they will anyway every word of the teacher. take it seriously, and who knows what else she might advertise inappropriately?
and you know, during intimacy with a partner, advertising inserts are, in my opinion, kind of creepy.
if you could turn off advertising for a while, it would be great, by the way) Well, or set up the target there somehow.
Well, for an accurate target, the brains of the people she communicates with should also be at this office.
You really can't breathe from these paid subscriptions and ads. Thanks to the pirate sites that at least movies/TV series can be watched for free for now.
Respect for the ending. Nothing has been better thought up than the almost obvious end of the story.
good series
It's funny that when she was saying her last commercial, and he was drowning her out with a pillow, the hd rezka voiceover started advertising)))
Only the first episode is interesting
Secondly, is 300 bucks that much in their world? They have their own huge house, and the only expenses seem to be food, communal services, and trips to visit their father in Ireland from time to time.
Thirdly, there seem to be a lot of jobs in the world that you can get even without special knowledge and skills, and losing your job as a teacher shouldn't be so critical: there are shops, there are deliveries, there are handymen in the same factories, after all. And others wouldn't give a damn what kind of crazy nativist you say from time to time.
The series certainly gets emotional. The surrealism in the voice acting is added by betting ads at the most dramatic moment. But there is no intrigue in the plot, and the very concept of hi-tech low life by subscription already, imho, seems a little hackneyed.
Everything was shown correctly here, such companies begin to receive 80% of profits from premium/vip/lux subscribers and so on, they are not interested in retaining basic subscribers. Their goal is to convert basic to premium. If they are not translated, then it is not profitable to invest resources on them, that's all. This is how statuses like this work when the gap between regular subscriptions and premium is a multiple.
And the funny thing is, the series on Netflix, which also dabbled with subscriptions and what used to be an extended subscription became the standard, and the standard with its low price disappeared.
And in this vein, the series is super. Since previously it was subscription services that were not so bantered in the emergency.
Well, as an independent story, the series is normal, but far from perfect from the first seasons of the same San Junipero.
Well, as for the series. There's nothing to blame the corporation for, either it's dead or it's like that. For rich people, this is an ideal way out and a revolution in the market. Well, the middle class either endures like heroes or comes to terms with the tragedy.
And it doesn't even feel like satire, although the fact that it comes from Netflix is damn ironic. This is either a forecast of the very near future, or it is already quite a full-fledged reality. And while many people can afford water, electricity, and the Internet, when it comes to medicines, for example, doctors and hospitals are already throwing up their hands. No one cares how you allow it. Especially in America, where even calling an ambulance costs a lot of money. We live in the era of capitalism, no one cares how you earn))
It reminds me of a book, a Russian fantasy novel that I read as a child. There, too, advertising penetrated so deeply into all walks of life that friends, when they met, read out the integration. And it seems that even in their dreams, people saw ads. I thought back then, wow, they'll come up with something like that!! Advertising is such short videos between movies! Well, nonsense, there will never be such a thing. Look out the window- advertising, open any website- advertising (thank you, adblock), in applications- advertising, advertisers are calling...
I wonder if it's technically still murder, right? Or did he disable technozombi?
It's a great idea with boosters. I think it's also quite feasible in theory. In fact, we experience some emotions due to chemical reactions in the brain. You take it, "upload the necessary things to your brain, and voila. No stress, no anxiety. Depression will disappear in principle... you can still pay for your subscription)
And the script writer is watching comedy
And how good is this guy from It Crowd (who remembers, he remembers). A multifaceted actor, he easily changes his image from comedy to drama.
And yes, I've had to think many times about why it's so difficult to pay for a basic and standard subscription, given that the average salary in America allows it. But perhaps there is a completely different currency in this universe.
Nevertheless, it's a pretty good season opener. Technology and the subsequent dystopia in place is exactly what we expect from Charlie Brooker's series.
And sleep - won't it be 23 hours out of 24 with a standard subscription?
If you sleep for 23 hours and advertise for the remaining hour, then, of course, this is no longer life at all.
Well , it 's a great start . 🍿
But yes, we need to work harder! More, more subscriptions!
And the fact that you've brought religion here, which, unlike corporations, offers nothing good in this life except to suffer, endure, and pray, and maybe you'll get something for it someday, is just wonderful.
Corporations still have to learn and learn from the church how to sell a non-existent service to a person during his lifetime - a heavenly life with an indistinct description, which a person can receive only after death. Or maybe not.
Historically, such a plot has been vividly described in different religions. In the "Black Mirror" he is often used: in the role of the devil — technology or, rather, corporations that use them. I think it's a mistake to put all the blame on corporations as a metaphorical devil and try to absolve people of responsibility.
Here, as correctly stated, the company began to arbitrarily change the terms of the contract, informing the participants after the fact. Do you feel the difference?
Well, His soul will leave Him after death, these bastards need your life. You don't expect anything good from ancient khtoni, and these are the same fucking people who bring others to similar ends. And this is much worse, it's your own fault with the Devil, from beginning to end, but here the situation is different.
When you sign a contract, for example, with cellular communications, do you really hope that companies that have been involved in a cartel for many years will not change your tariff tomorrow? You've already learned the hard way. And the only thing in your power is to abandon cellular communications in favor of pigeon mail, which has existed hundreds of times longer.
It amazes me how many commentators write that all this is similar to our lives: tariffs, boosters, etc. But they see the problem in dishonest corporations, while they themselves are addicted, like drug addicts, to social networks, gadget updates, imaginary comfort and other rubbish. Every day you sell your time, strength, and health to the devil for a bagel hole.
And I believe that corporations should never be absolved of blame: they dictate the terms, they have more opportunities, resources, and power, which means there should be more responsibility. Instead of reining in the scammers, you propose to additionally impose responsibility on the person so that he anticipates when they want to deceive him.
Of course, this is a hoax! Are you naive enough to think that the devil will be honest with you? When there is an opportunity to achieve justice in court, influence the other side (corporations, government, etc.) and demand fulfillment of obligations — at least through democratic elections — all is not lost. Otherwise, a person puts his life under the power of Satan, agreeing to bonded conditions and becoming his slave. In real life, such a contract would be declared void by the court. In the case of the devil, only God is able to free you from obligations — but He has enough worries without you.
GG was told that the operation is free, and the subscription price is only three hundred per month for super-duper new technologies that save lives. Shouldn't there have been questions? Or was he so naive that he made his wife's life completely dependent on the corporation and hoped that they would not take advantage of it?
What does ego have to do with it? And the other stuff you wrote?
Well, the Black Mirror is about technology, why the hell should I bring it up? 😑
I understand that the author's idea is important to everyone, that's what they taught in school)), but if I see strained analogies, I talk about it and about additional thoughts that a particular plot causes.
The only thing is, the ending was a little disappointing - not that it was sad, it was clear that it would be sad, but it was unrealistic. I already thought it would be the quintessence of touching and sadness, but for this you need a move that you believe in. If she hadn't died, but had just been in a kind of regime that was impossible for a full life, it would have been more realistic, and at the same time even sadder.
Postscript: I know a couple of services that have really reduced the functionality of the subscription over time, "motivating" (forcing) to connect a more expensive one. And that's the bottom.
The series is excellent!
Depressing, but so realistic. Unfortunately, this is the world we live in ourselves. 🥲
So in America, prices and salaries are completely different. For comparison, my mother's pension is barely 20k. Rubles'. The pension of one friend in the States is 20k. Dollars) And he says it's not a lot of money. That is, you can't live on them alone. And a doctor's appointment there is far from a couple of thousand, as in our country - even an ambulance ride costs money, people call Uber to save money.
And then there's a kind of moment, you know, if a person is of average or low income, he won't have a fancy house that needs to be taxed and maintained. He would have been huddled in a dirty, battered rented one-bedroom apartment. Or bought, that's not the point, it still wouldn't be your own separate country house.
I could build a theory that they took out a mortgage and then paid for it for N years, but there's not a word about it in the series, and again, with inflation and a 50k salary, they would have paid for it for 200 years.
20k can be if he earned very well during his life, successfully invested in stocks, real estate or something else.
20k per month is a lot of money, for a conditional Oregon or North Dakota. Even in Cali, you can live very well for them. Going to the doctor just doesn't cost thousands of dollars. Depends on the insurance. But FDGS, for example, costs up to $2,000, with the cheapest insurance in California. And they consider these operations to be under full anesthesia (sedation).
In general, your beliefs are far from reality. But I agree that the numbers in the series are very strange. $300 is a problem for them when he is a welder and she is a teacher. Their total income should be above 100K per year.
The average annual salary for a Public School Teacher in the United States is $52,912.
The average salary for a welder in the US is around $43,679 per year, or $21 per hour.
They don't tell us about their house (mortgage or rent), their car is old (so there is no loan), doctors usually have good life insurance and covers the whole family. When it was charged 300+500+1000 = $1800 that's when it got really expensive. It's just $300, don't buy semi-finished products, cook at home, take snacks to work, buy food at Costco and save that $300 on food without a drop in living standards.
By the way, since a luxury subscription allows you not only to change emotions, but also to improve any skills, invest all the available money in a subscription, set your knowledge, for example, an IT specialist to the maximum, get a job and earn a lot of money. There's enough for a child)
But were there any other Easter eggs in it besides robopchels and Juniper?)
As for the subscription price, those who write that 300 bucks is not enough - do not focus on a specific amount. If you think that this is not enough, well, imagine what amount would be tangible for you - 50 thousand, for example. And the premium is 120 thousand. This way it will be easier to understand the complexity of their situation and the hopelessness of the situation.
Finally, someone was able to correctly convey the idea that you don't need to be tied to numbers / sums, but to feel the idea itself. Everyone has a different income level, just imagine when everything starts with a seemingly harmless amount, and then it becomes unbearable.
There are a lot of ethical questions about this whole system, but within the framework of the series, the essence is conveyed perfectly!
Vibe of the old CHZ…
Very sorry GG 😢 😢 😢 😢
But finally the good old chz
The visual design of the series is striking, where saturation and contrast are reduced in everyday life. It's corny
Thank God, the CW has improved, at least for now, compared to the previous season. And Juniper County as a reference to the best (IMHO) episode is just great!
Shh, this episode was probably the scariest one for me in the whole project. It is a monstrous idea of the scale that the commercialization of health can achieve. I need expensive tests and procedures myself right now. And I'm just horrified that people are unscrupulous enough to start profiting from patients in this way, trampling on basic human rights to health and treatment. Yes, they are already profiting. Go to any paid dentistry, gynecology, etc. The doctor told my friend in plain text: "Pay for an additional fee.the tests that are needed for the receipt. I was bred for money myself, inventing non-existent diseases and treating them in expensive ways.
I feel infinitely sorry for the main characters, I feel sorry for the husband who sacrificed his dignity for his wife, I feel sorry for the poor woman who ended up LIKE THIS. Questioner: It's a terrible, scary, and brilliant series. 10/10.
You can earn this amount in a couple of hours.
Or in the TV series another world, other equivalents of $.
It's a pity the heroes didn't think of going to the webcam) there's potentially a lot of money you can make) plus a child can be conceived) but I'm kidding, if anything, don't ignore the pliz))) Actually, this is the victim of a man. To do anything for the sake of his beloved. And a capitalist system that will devour you if you are unable to buy a subscription to Lux premium pro max exclusive vip giga quadro galaxy
Some intercoms now broadcast ads instead of the usual beeps. They began to be installed in one of the Moscow residential complexes. Sorry, I can't attach the video, just a screenshot.
Everything that could have gone wrong went wrong. The heroes have collected all the pitfalls. but they had no choice either.
the main problem of these people is stated in the name - they are very ordinary, traditionalist, non-creative, do not adapt to the new. They're both dumb by the very structure of their personality. however, people are good knsh. a common type.
in the end, I wonder if gg is going to do this with a blade? mb is going to cut his throat, taking a fee from his private buyer in advance, but the fee is too small - only 30 minutes, mb is just cutting something for himself
but I give the series 3/5 for a very predictable plot down to the details and minutiae and an average pitch.
I was very pleased that they inserted the song anyone who knows what love is, which floats from episode to episode.
So far, the beginning is great, I hope that the series will keep us on our toes!
it seemed a little stretched. but the truth is much better than last season.
I wouldn't want to live like this, with these eternal annoying ads and subscriptions. Oh, that's how I live, so if you put on a foil hat, will you pass out? 😂😂
you can talk about this topic for a long time, but I liked the series, it turned out to be very painful, sad, but just as interesting as the first seasons of black mirror)
In the style of the first seasons
I'm absolutely thrilled.
The series is too real to life
it's just not clear why they decided to kill their wife with a pillow, they could have waited for the subscription to end and gone serenely to another world, disconnected, as when they left the reach zone.
and he kind of went to the stream to kill himself, but it's not clear why, he won't get any money from that.
Actually, there was the same murder in flying over the cuckoo's nest, so that a person would cease his perverted existence to the fullest.
The embedded advertisement reminded me of a series from South Park about Siri))
But the good old black mirror is back, I'm glad!
And I still didn't understand how they were going to support the child if $300 a month was a problem for them.
This is the first episode that disappointed me so deeply. The previous series were grotesque and bold in predicting what could go wrong in society and technology. Well, or just weird. and here they literally show the current reality. I haven't subscribed to the brain yet, but I'm almost there. It's exhausting
The tragicomic ending is quite touching, I watched the episode in the voiceover of HDrezki, and they also have ads there at the beginning and end of each episode, how ironic it was that at the moment of the beginning of suffocation with a pillow after the advertisement from my wife, there was an advertisement for the bookmaker from the voiceover right away
We started the season well, and the series was a blast, just like the first seasons. The interest was aroused again.