@Laedde: and the second one is to give new series that have been cut off from the most interesting ones)) Finally, a universe where there is a second season of Flash Forward.
@al_iskh: The pendant is good, of course, for the first time.. Well, who will service the whole system? one fuse will fly out of the switchboard and kick-ass.
That blonde got mad through the screen 😂😂😂 I just wanted to drag her in. 😂😂 I was quiet at school and grew up, I started taking revenge with the help of a pendant.
It's a funny and hilarious episode in a good way, but.. At first, there is a very curious paranoid atmosphere here, where together with the main character you barely understand what the hell is going on, but as in any bad thriller, the story here is based on fantastic assumptions that negate the whole atmosphere, leaving only bewilderment. It looks more like a fanfiction of David Fincher's Disappeared than it looks like a full-fledged work. But the perplexity here is pleasant, leaving a pleasant aftertaste. And everything is very well shot, you just want to watch the story.
I think this is more of a second episode of Red Mirror than a part of Black Mirror. And that's probably a good thing.
We didn't keep up with the paranoia a bit, she started losing her temper too quickly and understood everything, but the episode is gorgeous, uncomfortably comical misso jam.
Childhood traumas are the most powerful, stupidly thrown words for someone are a lifelong trauma. I wasn't mad at the blonde, on the contrary, I was rooting for her, Maria didn't deserve a pendant x)
@Sen13: Well, because of the blonde, their other classmate jumped off the roof. It's too radical a way to get rid of childhood injuries. But Maria really didn't deserve it, both are good, in general)
@Laedde: I agree, none of them is a positive heroine) but my respect to Blondie for inventing this cool thing, I wish it could still fall into the right hands x)
@Sen13: The most interesting thing is that it doesn't really matter or make sense. Since the principle of its operation is to choose from a parallel infinite number of universes necessary for the owner. So there are parallel universes where this pendant does not exist at all, or exists for everyone. This means that all parallel universes are mixed up and this pendant exists simultaneously in the right and wrong hands. Heh, that's such a fool it turns out)))
@Sen13: Why? Maria is quite a positive heroine. She didn't want to do anything specifically bad to her, and she didn't actively support direct bullying. She has adequate self-esteem, reflection, conscience, she didn't even want to meet and work with her because she felt guilty. And she won't abuse the pendant, just play a little bit and bring everything back to normal, she won't cause any destruction or death.
@ksander92: you were inconsiderate, she didn't humiliate you, she just blurted out about the teacher because of the pressure of another, really bad girl. As it was, she didn't care about her. What can you accuse her of? That she didn't pull her into the main group? Well, if that's the only way. But that's weird, because it's none of her business.
@densto: Maria even voiced this gossip to her boyfriend, although she knew perfectly well that she had invented it herself. What she told Verity under threat of death was probably just another lie: Maria was the conscious buller. They didn't show us any flashback, you just take the word of the main character, who lied so much that she had nothing to do with slander at all. That's how the pendant works!))
To consider oneself a hostage of childhood trauma is to absolve oneself of responsibility and voluntarily choose the role of a victim. A reason is never an excuse.
@milanajager: I didn't write that I was justifying her, but like Verity, Maria is also not a positive character in this story, and I just personally find her the more unpleasant of the two.
On the one hand, yes, it was possible to increase the paranoia a little more, but on the other hand, I liked that gg was not stupid, and I quickly realized that Verity was somehow manipulating reality. Very often, in such stories, the characters can't even imagine this until the last moment, and it starts to annoy. The ending is as absurd as possible, but it's very funny. Yes, it's not about the near future, as it used to be in Black Mirror, but it's a good entertaining fantasy short film.
@Scheusalwirt: your comment made me think that most likely Natalie considered Verity an ordinary "sucker", mocked her and did not take her seriously, and Verity could do it quietly from the beginning, without appearing abruptly in her life, that's why it took so long with her, Maria always considered Her genius, so I immediately began to suspect
The first half of the episode is good. The pumping is really cool. You can even start to doubt yourself, although at the beginning of the episode we were clearly shown that Maria was right and that "Bernies" was written on the cap. This part is really cool and exciting done. But the denouement and the finale are not fiction based on topical, relevant and REALISTIC versions of our lives, but fantasy. How could the cool idea of total gaslighting be merged into reality changes "at the click of a finger"? All the previous episodes, even the most exaggerated ones, could have been imagined in our "near future," but this.. I honestly didn't expect such nonsense from CHZ. It was as if the series was written by two different people, the first scriptwriter is a master of his craft, and the second mimicked half a sandwich. Why would Vereti shit on Maria over small things? She'll drink the milk and throw off the guilt, then substitute it with a list, so petty. She could have created a reality where she was the mistress and Maria was the slave, and that was it, bully her as you want and big time. Yes, they would have made Vereti rich as a good IT specialist, bribed Maria's boyfriend, her colleagues, messed with Maria's cameras, phones, computers and thereby made her believe in her madness and that's it, no magic with changing reality. What a good first episode, something slipped here, I hope it will get better later.
@cutebutdevil: I don't agree at all. It's a great series. it is quite realistic if you understand what quantum states are. this scenario is, of course, extremely unattainable, but it is quite possible. At first, I also thought that this was within the framework of our modern technologies, like pre-installation or something like that. but I really liked where they were going, as well as the ending.
Well, with retaliatory bullying, that's the whole point. in order not to just violate the reality in which rumors were spreading. to watch your sworn enemy's mentality crumble. just with a slave, it would be banal, but here everything is quite psychologically subtle. the series is one of the best for me over the last 2-3 seasons.
@GreenSky: it is impossible to put a person in a superposition in the conditions that were in this series. This is not even close to a semi-scientific approach. Moreover, it is impossible to create such a thing alone, huge resources are needed.
@cutebutdevil: I absolutely agree. It's great when the technologies in the Black Mirror are realistic or at least imaginable at a certain level of development. Well, so that a viewer with an average level of understanding of technology can at least theoretically imagine how it works. But this series is already from the category of complete fiction. CHZ, it seems to me, is not about that.
Great episode! not the most brilliant and far from the best in the series, but very nice. I agree that they could have made it a little longer to draw out the suspense and make Maria's descent into madness more authentic, but I'm fine with the current version. I still get these more fantasy CHZ series, although I understand how they can alienate people.
They've already said in the comments above that they were rooting for Verity rather than Maria — and I kind of support that too! Honestly, if I had a similar thing, I would also go to take revenge on the offenders. because, I don't know, maybe try to behave appropriately and not bully people until they create a major injury for life, so that in the future they don't go crazy, invent a reality-changing machine and try to drive you crazy and kill you! you fuck around and you find out! but joking aside, yes, driving to death is certainly tough, but she's clearly already gone deep into it + drunk on power.
and for me, the scariest moment of the series is when everyone forgot about the existence of allergies. as an allergy sufferer, I would honestly go out the window at the moment when there were no answers to the query "nut allergy" on Google... like NO WAY I've been living with this nightmare all my life, and now they're trying to convince me that I made it all up — I'd better be gone
Ahah, can we have the same remote control, please!
If everyone had such a thing, it would be a complete disaster, of course.
The plot is cool, the idea is non-standard, but it seemed a little too fantastic to me. Everything seems to be fine, as if I liked it, but at the same time something was missing, there was a strange feeling left. But still, this is a black mirror, everything is possible here.
But it's still an interesting idea. It all depends on the taste, someone will like it, and someone will not.
@elfiina: the rest of the people do not move to another reality, they already exist in it. It's just that everyone would choose a reality to their liking and there would be no catastrophe. And the reality in which such a machine was invented would be completely empty)
Such a tense episode, and everything was resolved so quickly. It's really cool. I would also like to expand this story with the adjustment of reality and driving to madness.
I'm writing in parallel with the viewing. I don't know how the plot will go, but the main character doesn't arouse sympathy. In general, the image of a "successful at 0" young girl who looks down on everyone, not representing herself at all, is repulsive of empathy for the character.
@andreypershin: I watched it. Nothing has changed. Gg is disgusting. Even the way she communicates with her boyfriend and boss. It doesn't matter what (spoiler alert), because in these circumstances it is she, with her own character and behavioral characteristics.
@ksander92: I wouldn't say she's nothing. Presents. But the emergency is beyond heaven, and she has this stupid habit of correcting people (even before Verity appeared)... She has certain skills and could have a pretty cool career, but the guy told her right, she wants everyone to please her. Which is exactly what she achieved in the end, just like that
I'll speak out anyway. For some reason, most of the commentators are on the main character's side. Although from the very first seconds we can practically see that she has a rather peculiar character. Even when this Verity just came to taste test. In general, I'm not impressed with the heroine. To justify that children don't understand anything and just blurted out something is not an excuse. If you know how to say what is good, what is bad. Or will we maintain the trend that if a person is just quiet, maybe a little weird and uncommunicative, put him in the furnace? Will you raise your children the same way? Mock the weak so that you won't be considered weak? Verity has been storing up pain and resentment for a long time, and that's what it resulted in. It's even a pity that she died, maybe she would have shot herself after that. Against the background of all this, her roof is most likely leaking.
@alexsomar: I totally agree with you. And even if the person had no personal experience of bullying, well, how can you sympathize with this heroine? Yes, the circumstances may be fictional, but her personality is real, and therefore we see her attitude towards people (boyfriend, boss, colleagues), constantly aggressive, with an expression of superiority on her face. Besides, it's a browser. It is especially important that the term "children" covers many age groups. We see in the photo that they were already mature teenagers who can and should understand the essence of their words and actions. I wrote above that I had a short but traumatic bullying experience. So after a short time, as fate would have it, we struck up a friendship with several of the bullying ringleaders. And it happens. We were avoiding the subject of that past, but one day one of these former abusers suddenly wanted to apologize to me. He said that his understanding of what he was doing had been destroying him all these years. But he said he didn't want to lie to me, so he remembered his feelings at the time, which he described as follows: "for some unknown reason, I enjoyed breaking you, and each time I wanted to break you more and more until you went crazy or did something to yourself. It was just interesting to watch. It was fun. We didn't think about it or look ahead to what would have happened if we had come to this." Then he couldn't hold back the tears, asked for forgiveness once again, we hugged each other in a friendly way and I tried to put everything in a different direction. This conversation with him was a surprise to me. And his words even scared me after the fact. But I saw this grown man, not that moral scoundrel at all, to put it correctly. Since then, we have been in frequent contact, and he has supported me in several difficult situations. He's a good man. But I can't forget that conversation.
@ksander92: A perfect example of what a child's brain is, even if you're a teenager, a brain that doesn't think about what will happen if it reaches its goal and what the consequences might be.
@analemma: Well, then let's deprive teenagers of legal (criminal) responsibility for their actions. They're kids. As for the "kids" who "don't understand anything," you can read a novel that once made a splash in the United States, namely, "Let's Go Play at the Addams."
@analemma: Don't twist it. You write that children (meaning children and teenagers) cannot think about what the consequences of their actions might be. I'm saying that a person's criminal responsibility begins at the age of 16. For an exhaustive list of criminal offenses, responsibility should be established from the age of 14. Judging by the photos, the "children" in the series have long since passed the age of 14, or rather 16. Thus, it is implied that a person at this age should understand the essence of his actions and responsibility for them. It can't, but it should. Otherwise, responsibility ensues. That is, your statement that "children" do not understand what they are doing is neither legally nor psychologically objective. The fact that these "children" hide behind their ignorance of the essence of what is being done does not protect them in any way. In my post, God forbid, there is no agreement with lynching and there cannot be. You won't find a single comment here (and I'm actively commenting on this series) where I would even indirectly justify this. Moreover, I clearly state that the antagonist's position is not the way out of the current situation. The essence of my complaints about this series is that the screenwriter suggests that we, as viewers, support and sympathize with the abuser and moral scoundrel, without forcing this character to at least think about the horrors she creates. If the screenwriter had acted this way, and the main character had repented of what had happened through the action, but the antagonist would have continued her path of revenge, after which the series finale would have appeared as it is now, there would not have been a gram of complaints about the script. Now, the narrative of the series is not just hacky, but also frankly socially dangerous.
@ksander92: >>> Your statement that "children" do not understand what they are doing,
You're twisting this, I haven't written that anywhere. Should we be responsible? Definitely. In childhood and at the age when this action is performed. According to the law. After 10 years of lynching, no. Even uncomplicated murders have a statute of limitations of only 15 years, that is, at 18 he killed, at 35 he can no longer be afraid (maybe there are other dates, too lazy to Google in detail). And in your eyes, 14 called names among other schoolchildren, pay at 30+.
The screenwriter suggests that we, as viewers, support and sympathize with the abuser. No, Verity Verity's abuser, Maria Bully, was the one who did it many years ago. Bully is not always an abuser. And Verity is a person who has received unlimited power and uses it to satisfy sadistic tendencies. Maria did not enjoy Verity's worries. She was jealous or afraid of her. And Verity enjoys Maria's suffering.
>> without making this hero at least think about the horrors she creates. You didn't look very closely.
They didn't tell us much about bullying at school, only in smears - they came up with a gossip that a friend spread, called us an insulting nickname, which the whole school called. Maybe there was something else, but that doesn't answer the question of why no one was friends with Verity. But we were shown in detail how Verity is bullying, namely abusing another person now. The whole episode was shown.
@alexsomar: everyone has a unique character. You, me. Actually, it's clear from the ending that gg is the same as Verity, and went the same way. But the main character has never done anything wrong to anyone in the present, and Verity is doing bad things at the moment and already as an adult, and this is a completely different responsibility and attitude. Bullying is bad, but it is impossible to pin responsibility on one teenager for the fact that her words were picked up by the school. It was the adults who didn't side with Verity in the first place.
@analemma: a keyword in the present. She had done it before, and it came back to her like a boomerang. You need to be able to take responsibility for your actions, and not shift the blame onto someone else.
@alexsomar: I consider the blame for the ongoing bullying of adults to be teachers, school management, parents (bullies or victims). And the shown method of buling was so terrible? The fact that the fiction about sex with a teacher was picked up and spread is not a good thing, but it has never been a crime. She didn't prove what she saw. She did not provide false evidence. And she didn't tell the whole school, just her friend. You probably made something up at school too, it's just that your fiction didn't become popular and you forgot. But whether she brought pain to someone, you don't know and you won't remember.
@analemma: I suspect you've been spared the fate of being a part of someone's constant ridicule, so it looks like nothing from the outside. If your classmates make fun of you every day. In this case, they call you a milkmaid and say that you had sex with a teacher, these are not small things. The child is quiet and withdrawn, she might be ashamed to admit to her parents and just waited for it to pass. And all these name-calling and teasing from day to day. Imagine your boss telling you every day at work that you're a piece of shit, relatively speaking.
I wasn't a bully to actively joke and mock anyone.
@alexsomar: I am genuinely bombed by the behavior of such "I don't understand what the problem is" in the context of various cases and situations. But over time, I came to the conclusion that some people lack empathy, and it's not their fault that they were born that way. Are they potentially dangerous to society? Yes rather than no, because lack of empathy is the first sign of a psychopath. But since there may even be a majority of them, you just need to accept the fact that there are such people. Alas.
@alexsomar: Once again, 1) it wasn't the main character who did this, but a crowd of children. Crowd psychology, alas, is different. Gg is not even said to have been the instigator. 2) if the adults didn't stop it, the adults are to blame, at least one teacher knew. I didn't help her - I'm terribly sorry for her, but then she should take revenge on the teacher, shouldn't she? 3) she took revenge after coming out of a traumatic situation. What you have described is a terrible experience, and if a person living in this vicious circle of abuse and violence has lost his temper, I will understand him very well! But it's a completely different assessment if both are no longer in an abusive-victim relationship. It hasn't been a day, but years. She enjoyed the suffering of her victims and killed. No abuse years ago is an excuse or mitigating circumstance for this, it is her adult choice to become a murderer.
I'm not going to talk about my childhood, but I'm ready to give one example - that in elementary school we had a teacher who was engaged in severe abuse and physical abuse towards a couple of children, I realized somewhere after 30. Not because I didn't remember, but because my brain worked so hard that I decided to put it on the back burner.
@ksander92: you know, male abusers who beat women often try to justify a difficult childhood - their father beat them, they were bullied at school, and their psyche is probably not OK, I understand. But all this has secondary importance in relation to the fact that as an adult, abusing victims is their adult choice, their current one. The heroine gained strength, became physically stronger than the abusers, and used it for abuse, not to sort out the past or save someone. Strange, yes, why is there no empathy for her? )) But it's strange to me that someone feels empathy for her.
@analemma: 1. Responsibility is personal. If a crowd beats up a person, everyone in the crowd is responsible. There is no such option of release from punishment as "well, everyone was beaten, and so was I." The same situation applies to bullying. Will you also justify a participant in group violence with crowd psychology? But the difference is only in the types of violence! 2. The responsibility of teachers goes hand in hand with the responsibility of children. Everyone has their own responsibility. One does not deny the other and vice versa. I'm not the scriptwriter of the series, and I can't answer why the antagonist didn't complain to the teachers. 3. No one except the victim himself knows when the trauma of the incident is going away. After a serious moral injury, most do not completely leave for the rest of their lives. You have a very bad idea of human psychology! 4 I have already written several times about justifying the actions of the antagonist, and I will not repeat myself, because I have not done this and I do not intend to do it. Be able to distinguish the fact of justifying the victim's aggression from the need for responsibility or at least moral repentance for what the abuser has done!
@analemma: First of all, don't take the story in a different direction. We are talking about the moral responsibility of a particular person for a specific guilt in moral violence. Secondly, my good friend was hospitalized after one of his wife's regular seizures, which manifested itself in moral and physical violence. Abusers can be both women and men equally. I do not consider it necessary to argue with this. Thirdly, for every act of violence and abuse, each person must be personally responsible. No one has the right to justify their criminal actions with a past injury. If you're hinting at my support of the antagonist's actions in this way, I've already written a lot about it. Please do not speculate or try to substitute meanings. Fourthly, if you are so stereotypical in your examples, imagine if a wife killed her husband over the years of moral abuse against her, proved accordingly. Will you justify this woman and wish her to escape punishment? I guess not. But as a human being, you will feel more empathy towards this girl, rather than the husband who suffered at her hands. And if the moral of the series does not imply the need for the abuser to repent for what he has done, and moreover, the aggressor is rewarded, then this is a socially harmful message, which makes this story bad not only from the scenario, but also from the social side. I'm sorry, but I'm surprised to have to explain this to an adult.
@ksander92: what if the wife killed her watermelon ex-husband after a dozen years without a single intersection, having specifically tracked him down and previously cruelly mocked him? Oh yes, even before that she found and killed all his mistresses, also with maximum cruelty and sadism? Would any sympathy for her be appropriate? This analogy is closer to the pattern of this plot))).
@Hidji: for some, yes. Well, a fairly large audience watches films where, after a while, the victim of violence takes revenge on the offenders as harshly and thoughtfully as possible. Some people experience catharsis from watching the retaliation from the main character. So in different cases, different people will show empathy in different ways or not at all. I can't speak for everyone. The example you gave is no different from mine. There are a few differences in the context, but the essence does not change. I saw the thesis about mistresses in your message after. It has nothing to do with the example from the series. A mistress a priori cannot be an aggressor simply because of the fact of her husband's infidelity with her. In the series, the antagonist takes revenge specifically on those who participated in the abuse.
@ksander92: Well, don't tell me, the difference in context is enormous. In one case, murder in self-defense during domestic violence, plus very likely passion, and in the other, premeditated murder. Serial, violent, and cold-blooded. A man with whom there has been no contact for many years. Didn't you also write about the law in your arguments? In one case, you can even get off with probation, and in the other - life or death penalty, depending on the state). The difference is the same. Yes, in the first case there may be the same intent, but at least it can be put in the form described by me, there would be a good lawyer).
@Hidji: one more time. What are we talking about? About responsibility? It comes and should come in any case upon its presence. At the same time, there have been, are, and will be many cases of violations of the law in which a part of society shows relative sympathy for the criminal (I'm not talking about those cases where those who have gone ask for the release of maniacs and other completely marginalized individuals). And this sympathy is based on the path experienced by this person, connected directly with the victim. And I'm sorry, I have no desire to enter the legal jungle, and my head is full of it at work. To discuss the issues of this series, diving into these wilds is not necessary. This is talking for the sake of talking. Once again, my main and main complaint about the script of this series is that neither the screenwriter nor the director are trying to show the moral ordeal, remorse and other similar things from the main character. Moreover, this main character, whom we should sympathize with, has not changed since graduation, because her communication with her boyfriend and colleagues speaks volumes. By the way, you can hear that one of the employees of their company calls her "boss", although she is an ordinary cog in the system of their company. Through this moment, we see that the heroine is smug, pompous, and still as unpleasant a person as she was before. Well, that's not how the plot of the work is built. It just so happens that I'm on good terms with a famous American writer. By chance, life brought us together. We talk a lot about literature and screenwriting. I'm not appealing to authority, it shouldn't have weight in our discussion. That's just not how the script is written. If you have raised the topic of abuse on the part of the main character, then whether there is an antagonist in the plot, or not, the hero must go through one of the ways: either repent for what he has done in any of the possible forms, or follow the "path of the villain." For example, as in the second one (I'm sorry if I'm wrong) This season, the heroine was a prisoner of the cycle of punishment for what she had done, and despite her remorse, she could not change anything.
@ksander92: this is how the plot works, no matter what the antagonist is, you worry about her, you sympathize with her, because no one should go through eternal torture, repenting for what they did. I can also recommend a very unusual, but interesting and, as they say, themed novel "The Seven Deaths of Evelina Hardcastle" by Stuart Turton. By the way, I advise all fans of "Black Mirror" to get acquainted with it.
@ksander92: it seems that all this watermelon growing plays an exclusively background, background role here. And it doesn't matter in the development of the plot, just an explanation of the reason for the actions of the villainess, nothing more. And intentionally for a reason that most viewers would consider insufficiently weighty for such revenge (and she ended up killing all the previous victims after much bullying, the last month held out). By the way, the time factor plays a very significant role here, alas and ah. Because even John Wick and his dog would have caused a lesser emotional response from the viewer if he had found and punished that asshole a dozen years later. Right? But in general, I was just interested in the depth of the difference in views))). Your opponent's line is straighter and clearer, but I decided to study yours in more detail. The result has already been noted above: I think you are digging too deep into the script, it is more superficial here.
@Hidji: Maybe you're partly right. I also admit the opinion that the actress for the role of the main character is a miskast and does not play exactly the character that the director needs. Well, she's too antipathetic. Well, no matter who I am, no matter what life experience I have, I cannot empathize with a heroine who is an unpleasant person, has a bad background, and in the course of the story she only acts selfishly and aggressively towards others, even the antagonist. Well, why feel antipathy towards her just by the fact of her being next to you?! This factor demonstrates that the story of abuse has not been forgotten or "experienced" not only by the antagonist, but also by the main character. If she saw the antagonist, she would treat her in the style of: "oh, I remember this girl, it's so awkward, the girls and I ruined her life so much at school that it would be uncomfortable for me to interact with her, remembering that experience." But there isn't. She is a priori aggressive. I don't know if this is a flaw in the script, a miscast, or some other factor, but because of this, the whole mechanism does not work. I have complaints about episode 3, but there, despite my, as I believe, objective quibbles, the plot works. Yes, from my point of view, it's worse than it could be, but it works. And then there's a complete collapse. Well, finally, I will say that, for the most part, it was not so much the series that prompted me to conduct all these discussions, but rather the superficial and frivolous attitude of some to the topic of bullying. It's right now to discuss domestic violence, violence against girls, and men for a long time (no one really discusses this, however, but this is a topic for another conversation), but bullying has a strange attitude. And it didn't excite me so much because of my own experience, I've been through it for a long time, but I'm just surprised by people's attitude to the issue. Well, just think, it was and it was. Well, that's a lot to say.
@ksander92: Well, if you want to immerse yourself in the topic of billing, then this is for you in Korean dramas about schoolchildren. There's plenty of that. And the audience reacts properly). Or about their army. They like to expand on this topic. And in the CHZ, the viewer focuses on something else because of their expectations of the format. That's why the attitude is like that.
@Hidji: You misunderstood me. I'm not really interested in delving into this topic. I like the style of "Black Mirror" since the release of season 2. It's just that since the screenwriter raised this topic in a novel, we're discussing it here. I would have given up on this case a long time ago, but there are people like above who seriously declare that if a crowd commits a crime, then if you are part of this crowd, you can be acquitted because a person simply followed herd instincts. Well, that's... the guy's still the one.
@ksander92: "There is no such option of release from punishment" - well, actually, in reality there is. But first, the crime must be proven / recognized, then there may be options, a conditional replacement (for age or good behavior or recognition). If the statute of limitations is limited, they won't even initiate a case. But bullying is not a criminal offense, to be honest. And there didn't seem to be any abuse. Judging from the movie.
>> You have a very bad idea of human psychology! Can I regard this as bullying? You didn't understand what I was writing about at all, but you're giving me a negative assessment. Getting out of a traumatic situation is not equal to healing the injury. Don't lump everything together. Okay, I'll sign it. For example, a victim kills an abuser. Situation 1) kills during a beating - self-defense. 2) he beat her, she lies on the kitchen floor for an hour, takes a knife, kills - murder in a traumatic situation, the abuser has not disappeared from the victim's life and she knows that the abuse will happen again (for example, the Khachaturian sisters, this factor was not taken into account by the Russian court, that they remained in a traumatic situation in another country they would have been acquitted) 3) the wife left the abuser, lived by herself for a year, then took a knife, came and killed - murder outside of a traumatic situation, outside of abuse, there is little chance of justification, despite the unequivocal presence of injury, only if recognized as insane. You can sympathize with her. Unfortunately, it is impossible to justify it (if there were no additional triggers). The series shows a typical situation number 3.
@ksander92: "There are people like above who seriously declare that if a crowd commits a crime, then if you are part of this crowd, you can be acquitted because a person simply followed herd instincts.
I am amazed at how you yourself come up with such statements for your interlocutors, and then brand them. That's it, I'm stopping, it's very exhausting to deny what I didn't write.
@ksander92: If she saw the antagonist, she would treat her like, "Oh, I remember this girl, it's so embarrassing, the girls and I ruined her life so much at school that it would be uncomfortable for me to interact with her, remembering that experience." But there isn't. She is a priori aggressive.
I think this is a pretty vital reaction, because after a while, seeing a person you've offended or done something dirty and not worked through it (and not apologized) can also be very difficult. GG said the first time she saw her, "Oh, she's changed." That was the first dissonance-she's not a geek anymore, but an ordinary woman. And then gg tried with all her might to prove to the guy and the boss that she was weird, she was crazy to justify her school behavior somehow. Because it's very difficult to admit that you poisoned a person just like that. The brain needs to find a reason in the style of "I did it because she herself was somehow different." Hence the automatic negative attitude towards Variety. It is quite natural that it can be psychologically very difficult for a person to communicate with someone whom he offended and did not find the strength to apologize. An untreated sense of guilt can also be quite overwhelming.
If gg had reacted so lightly to Varaiti's arrival, it would mean that she does not feel any guilt, she never thought at all that she had done something wrong and did not consider it a problem. And here it is just shown that she remembers it and it also makes her uncomfortable.
@alexsomar: And gg was not actively joking or mocking, others were already talking about the milkmaid and the teacher all the time in order to humiliate. Gg didn't do anything with such intent.
@m1stake: I don't think gg checks all the taster lists before, they all looked like random people. Well, Verity was late on purpose to attract attention.
@ksander92: "I also admit the opinion that the actress for the role of the main character is a miskast and does not play exactly the character that the director needs. "
And I think the actress' (black) appearance is the factor that makes someone else sympathize with her. Tolerance does not allow us to think that Maria is also negative, plus Verity has a more sinister vibe and unpleasant facial expressions. In fact and by design, there is simply NO positive heroine here. The audience wants to sympathize with someone, and they choose according to their life experience (Verity) or the idea that the main / black heroine is always better (Maria). But in fact, they are both obviously disgusting (like all/most people, according to the authors) and, having gained power, they inevitably had to turn into tyrants.
@alexsomar: She wasn't actively involved in bullying. What did she have to do? Drop out of the main group at school because of pity for a blonde? To be bullied too? No one has to put themselves through suffering for the sake of others. And with the reaction when she came to taste testing, you just didn't understand why this was the case - everything in the series is looped in this regard, you need to look more closely. So you've come up with her image for yourself rather, that's how you can support anyone. And who is there to support? A man who believes he can take other people's lives?
They didn't finish it a bit, as far as I'm concerned. The series could have been more authentic and the level of paranoia higher. But the idea is interesting, and the car is unusual.
@an_khv: Well, it's unlikely, although I rewound the episode myself to check whether it was Barnis or Bernice at the beginning. But in general, make the episode a little longer and move the denouement back to the authors - it would be better, I think.
I was very disappointed with the ending. Yes, it is more realistic within the framework of the circumstances shown, but it does not carry the essence. What is the moral of this episode? I didn't feel any positive emotions towards the main character. A deceitful, boorish, and extremely vile person who has a history of violent bullying behind her. For those who are not familiar with the topic of bullying, I will explain a little, because, alas, I spent about a year of my teenage life in it. Bullying, especially during the formative years of your personality, is the most painful thing for your self, which robs you of confidence and self-love, which forces you to live day after day in an endless hell of bullying, insults and even physical attacks. And it's okay if there's only one teenager behind it. But usually the majority partially participates in bullying. And even the teachers just want to get away so they don't get involved. Fortunately, thanks to self-improvement, I have grown up to be a successful person who finds himself in any company. But in those moments, you don't know your future, you want to stop this horror, and after particularly zealous attempts to hurt you, you repeatedly think about, let's say, harming yourself. It's such a traumatic experience. And if I got over it, having made a lot of efforts on myself inside, then many gave up and dragged their complexes, fears and dislike towards themselves into the rest of their lives. At the same time, everyone like me would like to have the technology from this series. Not for something fatal, but just so that the abuser feels what you feel in conditions of total abuse. Excuse me for the comparison, but if the heroine of this series were not a bully, but a rapist, absolutely everyone here would sympathize with the antagonist. But after all, prolonged total bullying can have similar terrible internal consequences, as in the case of physical violence against a person. But it is also impossible to act the way the antagonist does. And the problem with the series is that it doesn't provide answers to this dilemma, only rewarding the abuser's terrible personality.
@ksander92: good evening) Thank you for your sincerity above in another comment. Do you know what message I saw in the episode? If we discard all the wrappers with multiverses and so on, maybe it was hinted that you can't live in the past, and that revenge is meaningless? Indeed, it's just starting some kind of wheel of samsara; now Maria will fall into it, then she will end up like Verity...
@albina_albus: I don't think the writers thought that way. Of course, this is just my guess. The message you have seen is correct, and I would also like to see it woven harmoniously into the plot. But what we see on the screen. From the first seconds, the main character, who communicates aggressively and nervously with everyone around her, can no longer sit with indignation and anger only after seeing the antagonist. No "Mandela effects" had started in the frame yet, but she was already as aggressive as possible towards the antagonist. After a short gaslighting, she decides to defend her life, breaks into the antagonist's house, kills her and takes control of the entire pocket Universe. You noticed, in this short retelling, I didn't even make a plot-important footnote about her being an abuser of the antagonist. Because there were no moral dilemmas, remorse, well, at least rethinking her life and a couple of pleasant words to her boyfriend or boss (whom she simply sent in the last sentence), none of this was done by her. We have nothing to conclude that she learned anything from this story, except for her smug and contemptuous expression at the very end. Well, that is, there is no point in it.
@grishazaretskiy: nope. Firstly, they are unable to demolish the skull LIKE THAT and generally have low penetrating power. So bones are a problem for them. And secondly, ordinary cops don't use them, only police special forces, aiming at body parts that are not protected by body armor (these bullets don't take them at all). Ordinary cops are trained to almost automatically shoot at the body, and it is often protected. Therefore, such bullets were abandoned.
@Hidji: But Verity has a pendant. You can program a bullet to take off half of your face and Maria, who has never fired like a professional, got where she needed to with one shot.
By the way, I can even suggest an ending so that the series has a meaning and a message. Alternatively, it would be possible to create circumstances in which the antagonist loses access to the consoles, and as a result of some actions within this world, they are both imprisoned, so each of them is locked up in this artificial world for what they have done. And so in the plot, where there are two villains, one was punished by the second, and the second was also rewarded with absolute power. Awful.
@keyo1sha: By the way, if you watch on Netflix, when you re-watch the episode or rewind, Bernice from the beginning is remade as Barnis, we only see Bernice on the first viewing.
@keyo1sha: can you clarify the comment, please? there, at the beginning, we see Barnice on the cap, and after a dispute between colleagues, it turns into Bernice. how does it work differently on netflix?
@d-romance: I agree! For some reason, it flashed through my mind at that moment: what if the fiction about Verity and the teacher was true?Such a dirty allusion. Brr...
At first, it was interesting, while the story was developing like this and ideas were being thrown about the Mandela effect, about the schizo, or some kind of conditional hacking tricks, there were enough plot options. But the ending of the plot with a magic button that does literally anything without any restrictions is just an ultimatum piano in the bushes. It's not interesting, it's scripted impotence. She might as well have said that now she would be on Godzilla's head and would be fighting King Kong right now, and it would have worked. It's complete nonsense. 2/5 for scenic impotence.
although I rarely had situations in my life when it seemed to me that I was absolutely doing/writing/saying something one way, but in the end everything turned out to be different. of course, it's not about a quantum computer changing reality, usually it's just absent-mindedness and poor concentration, but already when I was talking about Carrageenan, I started to feel like I was starting to go crazy, like the main character... I even started rewinding the episode to double-check if it was some kind of very cool storytelling technique where the viewer's attention was so skillfully manipulated.... at first I thought it might be about some kind of progressive disease or that we were not being shown reality, but some kind of analogue of San Francisco.Junipero and he suddenly got excited
as a result, neither Maria nor Verity aroused much sympathy in me, although I would like to empathize with Verity a little more morally. but they basically just turned the tables, first Maria bullied Verity, and now this initiative has passed into the hands of Verity, and in general there is a feeling that both heroines have not grown mentally from their school days, one is brusque and boorish, and the second is blinded solely by revenge... like many here, I think the ending is completely inappropriate and pointless, I wanted to reveal more about the bullying topic, preferably Maria's sincere remorse (ideally also Verity's remorse for Natalie's murder) , the expectations in general somehow did not come true (
It's strange that with such strength and genius, Variety didn't come up with a plan to protect herself from accidental death. I think from the moment the main character sat down to wait for her in the car, my brain was drawing such an ending, except that I was thinking about a severed finger (again, to safety issues). In general, it's a pretty cheerful story, especially in our time, when neural network videos have already become something commonplace. It's funny, of course, that by the end the story that bullying is bad turned into a story that revenge is stupid. It's a good example of how easy it is to take away a person's confidence in their own sanity.
@stardisco: yes, she miscalculated, especially since in order to do all the things in the framework of revenge, she needs to be nearby, which means Maria would have tried to grab the remote control from her. Even when she guessed about the pendant, she had to think about it.
Oh!!!!! But I couldn't understand! I watched in the kitchen in the original with the subs, but when I got distracted by cooking, I turned on the Ukrainian dubbing, just at the moment at home with a guy, and they suddenly started saying the opposite, that it was Barnis. I rewound and checked! I didn't understand, I waved my hand. And you might have thought that I wasn't right at home.
I liked the episode more than the first one, the potential for the whole series (there was also something related to gaslighting in the last season of AHS, but I didn't continue beyond the first episode, should I go back?), and what kind of Maria is especially beautiful at the end, well, moyashkina, it's good that the pendant obeyed her and She wasn't done with all of Verity's man-made nonsense!
Medium. The technology has no restrictions at all, and I didn't like it. And parallel universes are a so-so idea. The boss's behavior is also illogical. Your employee has been working for years, and your assistant has been working for two days. And they immediately have a conflict. Before that, everything was OK. Who is the more valuable asset? A quick dismissal, and they did not show Coulomb's interference in this. Of the two, gg sympathized, because the problem of bullying is solved not so much by children as by adults - teachers, parents, psychologists. She blames the wrong adults.
The ending has never been a happy ending at all, it will now clearly go the same way as its predecessor.
I'll clarify what I meant, that I liked the ending, unlike many, because I sympathized with gg, and then at the end it turned out that she was the same. And started a new cycle. And he'll probably end up the same way. Very much in the spirit of CHZ
The series had such potential and such a seamless ending.... The second episode, the second disappointment. At first, I thought the plot was wrapped up in some unusual way, but when this thing with the pendant appeared, I realized that I had hoped in vain.
How much does such a pendant cost? Drop the link. But seriously, it's a bad idea for people to do this and take off the pendant in the shower. In the end, I realized that my mouth was open, the only thing that ruined the moment was how she distracts the policeman with a shot, jumps to her hand with a pendant, and he shoots, shoots and everything goes by, well, camon. The pressure and abomination of the characters is a solid 5
I read a lot of comments on YouTube from the American audience about this series today. I was struck by the fact that there were sooo many discussions about what I quote: "the series shows the life of a typical black man with the gaslighting and violence that each of us encounters every day, this series is about the dominance of a white man. No one believes the heroine, but they listen to the villainess, because of course, she's not a dark-skinned girl." To be honest, I'm shocked at how you can twist the events in the series. Here, of course, one nasty character retaliates with revenge against another disgusting character for bullying. It seems that the summons has done its job.
@ksander92: You see, it's called a worldview, you've seen one thing, they've seen another. And that doesn't mean any of it is true. To me, these are just interpretations, and I don't agree with any of them.
@ksander92: this is when there is no golden mean. Everything is fine in moderation. Even the struggle for the rights of blacks, and it, like many things, was turned to the maximum, so it turns out.
The series turned out to be interesting, but the interest ends with the appearance of the all-powerful school girl. Nothing makes sense after her appearance at the main character's job, revenge turns out to be ridiculous or something. Why wouldn't the almighty work in not making eye contact? I mean, to get to work for gg and change reality when gg doesn't see why show the main character that it's because of you that reality is changing, what's the point. Well, the end is shown that she is exactly the same, given power = I must become the main one of the world. If it would be possible to give half a star, I would
@Chrysalis2018: the point is that the abuser eventually finds out what all this suffering is for and realizes that she is to blame for this cunt. In this case, in front of everyone, they switched places - the blonde was defended by everyone, and gg was condemned. At the same time, gg understood that she was right, but no one believed her (as a response to what was the case with the false school rumors)
After watching it, I still have the feeling that history will repeat itself with GG. First, she'll be the queen of the world, whoever she is... and then something from the past will trigger... and she'll drive someone crazy.
@lena_gorod: this is exactly how the ring of omnipotence corrupts) all its owners end up the same way. I hope she can overcome herself and destroy this computer. Well, or someone else will think of it and will not succumb to the temptation of such a remote control from reality.
@Choly_Cavel: I don't understand, what's the incentive? If you bully, a Thanos like that can come to you later and ruin your life. And the final is far from the fact that everyone will succeed, there are so many development options.
@musicliveinus: Well, it would make a little more sense if the boomerang came back to you as a payback. And as a result, she teased her at school, and ended up on the throne with the slaves.
@Choly_Cavel: I get what you mean. Yes, she was lucky, but it's fantastic, the results of the whole mess have been raised to the absolute, if you go down a little to the ground, then everything becomes obvious how bad it is to bully someone and how it can turn out.
@Choly_Cavel: So "Black Mirror" was almost never about optimism and good endings. Oh (with the exception of a couple of episodes). Evil almost always won here, everyone died, complete hopelessness.
How well they developed paranoia in this series, but for some reason they decided to nullify the intrigue very quickly and went into some completely fantasy theme, similar to the movie "Everything everywhere at once". Technology, of course, plays a role here, but still a very secondary one – like a smart home vacuum cleaner and the profession of a blonde. To be honest, I would like all the atrocities of the girl to remain in the space of her hacking capabilities. As it is, the denouement seems too absurd, which lives in isolation from both reality and the originally stated plot.
@Kinoculture: There were also associations with "Everything everywhere and at once", but it was more elegantly played and used, plus the morality was much more layered.
It's funny, but I got this moral from this story - if you forget about past insults, you can become anyone and have anything you want. After all, we all have such baggage. And then life gives you opportunities that you miss because of this past experience. In this episode, the situation was simply exaggerated, but I see the point this way. It's good that people seem to have a simple plot that caused such reasoning. So the authors were able to capture the mood of the audience.
It's very convenient to push everything onto a quantum computer and come up with fiction of any kind, because no one can prove or mathematically describe its capabilities and limitations anyway. 😅
But the series is cool, the shot at the end surprised and pleased me in general))
By the way, if you look closely, you can see the same Bandersnatch novel from the special episode in Verity's room)) In addition, you can see real popular science books nearby, such as: - Data Analysis of Asymmetric Structures - Hiding in the Mirror - Music by the Numbers: From Pythagoras to Schoenberg - Quantum Computing: An Applied Approach
Besides a rather funny selection of her own photographs, she also has photos of famous scientists on her shelves - Marie Curie on the bottom left, and Annie Easley on the bottom right. I think there's a photo of some significant scientist in the center, too, but I still couldn't Google it.
I'm surprised that people in the comments were annoyed by the blonde, not the boorish Mr. What did a blonde do to get bullied by dumb teens at school? It's nothing. She was smart, private, and probably had a funny hairstyle. But these nasty ladies thought they could bully, spread rumors, and so on. Literally, by their own choice, they created the reality in which the blonde, thanks to bullying, created this supercomputer. What a terrible rejection it caused me. Even in the scenes where the blonde has just come to the tasting and hasn't started doing anything with reality yet, she's already toxic, like "what are you doing here", "no, you're not going to work with us" and so on. Just ugh. That's why the ending disappointed me. We got the triumph of evil.
Why did the pendant suddenly start obeying Maria? Is Verity so smart that you just need to tap her with your finger and say whatever you want in any voice? Even nonsense like "the pendant obeys me." Well ok.
One of the themes raised in the series is fire! Damn, but it's true that if something isn't on the Internet, then we automatically don't believe in the existence of this or that fact. And on the contrary, we believe in any game that they write there! Is the earth flat? Yes, it's written on the Internet. Is there no allergy to nuts? Of course, there's not a word about it on the web. I'm thrilled with the idea!
And as soon as Verity appeared in the frame, even before the main events unfolded, I felt some kind of anxiety that would not let go until the end of the episode.
I liked the series, and among other things, interesting topics were raised for discussion: revenge after school bullying, psychological pressure, gaslighting, and TOPPINGS FOR CHOCOLATE BARS. As I said, I've been feeling anxious and tense all series. But the ending surprised me on the one hand (I thought that the evil in the face of Verity would win), and disappointed me on the other hand (I'm not a boyar, but a LADY).
PS Are you taking the elevator up to the second floor, Maria? Really?))
You need to be able to answer for your words and have the strength to admit that you were wrong and you need to apologize. I was rooting for the blonde.
The finale smiled) The series itself is depressing, but in a pleasant way. I'm glad that there was no devilry, although it's absolutely fantastic, even beyond the emergency
I've definitely seen the actress playing Verity in a few more movies/TV series, and she played villains there. Apparently, the role of the actress is like that. Therefore, as soon as I saw her in the first frame, I realized that Maria would not have to wait for anything good from her.
I also rewound the episode at the very beginning, when there was a dispute about the spelling of the restaurant's name, to make sure that Maria was right and it was spelled with A. 😁
They pumped up the atmosphere great. The denouement only turned out to be more crumpled, but for the format of a single episode, this is understandable. And it's clear that now Maria will go to hell with this pendant, because people are such people, but I still just breathed a sigh of relief when Varity's brain was shot.
gg has the antidote in his bag, it was possible to arrange a performance on drinking drinks with traces of nuts. But with the activation of the pendant, the milk in the box could turn out to be completely ordinary ( Gaslighting at the level. I have my own questions about the blondie character. 😈 It's scary what to say
@wolfork15: In this universe, nut allergies are not supposed to exist. And not just 'there is no information about it on the Internet, so maybe she would have calmly drunk milk.
I don't understand what this series is doing in the CZ. The series is about future technologies, about their power and danger in the wrong hands. It's pure fiction, the series should relate to the Red Mirror.
As for the series itself, it's "transitional age" 2.0. Well, more precisely, only the plot about school bullying and gaslighting, only the victim survived and was left with psychological trauma.
The series is not bad, but if you evaluate it within the framework of the emergency, then the rating is low.
Well, in fact, it's a repeat of the Polar Bear. The plot is set in such a way that the viewer condemns everyone. But the blunder is that Variety is sweet and technically makes her abusers repent. But they don't understand and continue to poison her. The ending, of course, is unfortunate. It would be more like some kind of detective investigation with a hint of continuation. Or how Varity calmly eliminates all abusers, closes the gestalt and begins a brave new life. Only the Variety!
It turns out that Netflix has repeated Avgn's trick. Viewers were randomly shown one of two versions of the episode. In one version, Barney was changed to Bernie, and in the other, Bernie was changed to Barney.
Blondie looks a lot like Nicole Kidman) GG is a very unpleasant character. She is very aggressive, likes to put herself above everyone, and is very arrogant. Especially after I heard the story about blondie bullying, I immediately changed my attitude towards her. She was weird at school, so no one wanted to be friends with her, so we decided to bully her. An abomination. She even liked how she annoyed her. It's a pity that evil won in the end.
Well, what's up, another episode of the Twilight Zone under the guise of a Black Mirror was slipped when I got used to it...
(Yes, a quantum computer, these words don't make the series any more techno/scientific. moreover, in order for this great thinker to find the necessary reality in a split second, according to the wording "I want to go to a universe where I am the queen," it is necessary that he be tuned at least to the frequency of her brain, and not just to her finger, otherwise it would not even be a stretch to explain how it all works).
@musicliveinus: if you love fiction, then you must, well, there's a multigenre procedural, based on fantastic plots from more, even now some series look great even now
@musicliveinus: There are good episodes, there are weak ones, there are so-so ones. the good ones are probably still a minority, and almost all of them are in the second season, but if you like the format and atmosphere of the CHZ, then it's worth a try, although it's weaker, of course. but it's even comparable with the late seasons)
If the blonde changed her reality, then the brunette should change to another one, from another reality, as all the people around her changed. How could a blonde woman change reality for both of them at once? And why did the pendant immediately switch to a new owner after the blonde's death - is voice recognition that difficult? And so it turns out to be one person's fingerprint, but whose voice is it anyway? And if so, then who is the brunette for the pendant - the imprint is not hers, the voice does not matter - why did the pendant suddenly obey her, how did he recognize her at all? It's not Aladdin's lamp.: whoever picked it up is the owner. It's a very stupid defense for such a miracle machine. Well, the questions raised are very strangely revealed: did the blonde achieve maximum worship and recognition in other worlds - and this did not cover up her childhood traumas? Just a trivial revenge? And the brunette is the only thing she immediately desired - unlimited power? These are such primitive ideas. The beginning is not bad and the ending is very stupid.
@Willful: Well, apparently, Verity didn't complicate it: pressing the pendant with her fingerprint would get a voice command (without additionalchecks, I decided one check is enough) - perform.
@analemma: then how did the pendant switch to a new owner? For the print, the brunette still used the blonde's fingerprint, and then said, "Now I'm the owner." But who am I for the pendant if it's still the same old owner's fingerprint and the voice can't be identified in any way? The pendant is not a wizard, it's a program, a new fingerprint must be registered.
@Willful: when pressed with the desired fingerprint, the pendant fulfills the desire expressed at that moment, changing reality to suit it. Apparently, that's what happened. In this reality, the car is originally hers, no authorization change is needed.
If Variety was just "switching realities," then imagine how stupid the version of her feels, which remains in the universe where the cameras show that she drinks milk. :D after all, in theory this universe did not collapse, but they simply moved to the one where gg drinks milk and there is no natalerji in this world (sorry, I do not know how it was adapted into Russian) :D It's like a short film about a one-minute time machine :D
The series is funny, but there are a lot of assumptions, of course. It turns out that Verity was carrying evidence of her greatness with her from reality to reality? After all, in this reality she is a travel agent and has never been the queen of the world.
Oh, the swing was for a ruble, even taking into account the fact that they did not explain the possession of such a wunderwafle in any way, but the blow was very disappointing.
At least they could have made it so that after receiving the pendant, they started to fix everything...
Damn it, the queen) At first I thought the series was about gaslighting, but then, as usual, the idea turned out to be much deeper.
But now all this has become more relevant than ever - the fight against dissent and all that. It seems that now all those in power have their own similar pendants, and the reality is made up of who is stronger...
I was bullied all through elementary school, I never wanted to take revenge or even get mad at these people, I forgot about them a long time ago, but I understand that bullying is different.
The conclusion of my situation, when you know how unpleasant it is, you don't do that to others, the conclusion of the series, don't poison your strange classmates, they can drive you crazy.
in fact, I remembered a story from school . We had a very strange teacher, he didn't seem trustworthy, there was some kind of threat , and from the outside it seemed that he got very close to one of our classmates . There was a trip, like a camping trip, and from there there were also rumors that a physicist was rubbing the leg of this classmate privately in In general, to be honest, it was scary for her that she was influenced and it could come to something bad. My best friend and I tried to talk to her, find out the truth, and then she passed this conversation on to the teacher) we were already afraid we wouldn't finish school, that he might just fail in the end, everything somehow ended by itself . He didn't take revenge on us. I hope this classmate won't be 😁 My name is Maria, by the way.
in the whole story, it was more like I was scared for her, that there might be a jerk next to her, no one bullied her, she was generally smart, she drew very well , I don't know how she lives now, what about the teacher, it took a couple of years after graduation, the story was forgotten until Haven't watched this episode
@MargoRose: the story with the teacher also seemed a little strange, I thought they would tell me that there was still intimacy (the way Verity talked about him was clearly not indifferent, although it was unclear at what level, perhaps only a fatherly relationship was real)
Yes, this episode is already worse, as the ratings indicate. Because Black Mirror is when it's vital, like it was episode 1, when you realize that it might be or even is. But here it is absolutely unrealistic. Yes, this is the Twilight Zone, where fiction is explained by the fact that "well, this is the twilight zone." If we talk about this topic from a more or less scientific point of view, then this is, for example, recent Dark Matter, and there is a cube needed for such manipulations. Because according to science, a person cannot just be placed in a superposition, there are limitations. Moreover, where she got the resources to create such a thing alone is unclear. It would probably be more interesting if something was related to computers, conditionally, it's really possible to correct some information in the computer, but at the moment with the baseball cap it became clear that this would not happen.
@densto: so she doesn't fall into the superposition here. All universes already exist simultaneously. And there is a universe somewhere where the villainess is an astronaut, the queen of the world, and so on. She just moves to another universe. In theory, it's like. If you know the position of all the particles in the universe, you can calculate what will happen. Apparently, this is what the computer on the ground floor does. And then somehow moves the hero to a new universe, but retains old memories) so it's possible in scientific theory. On the other hand, where to find a computer that can calculate this) well, somehow you need to figure out a way to move between universes. Well, physics is such a thing that a hypothesis for everything can be found. It will surely turn out that the universes are not isolated, but have some kind of connection in order to be able to differ from each other and understand that it is different. Maybe the universes somehow affect each other and through this mechanism you can make a transition) it's like the speed of light) nothing can move faster than it, but if you distort space, then in theory you can accelerate faster and there will be no time distortion) I love physics)
@Lighthouse012: then she hits it for a moment anyway. In any case, as you noted, the infrastructure for this is nowhere near shown in the series, and the possibility is not technically justified. After the TV series where there is a semi-scientific justification for this, it looks ridiculous.
@densto: That's right, but there's only one episode. In general, as a concept, in my opinion, it still turned out cool. And it takes a whole season to explain.
@Lighthouse012: they have no explanation other than an extremely superficial one, it's a one-episode attraction in the style of Everything everywhere at once, no more
The remote control turned out to be so powerful that it changed from the present and the past) and rewound the series back to see the name of the cap and it's the same as the blonde said) The moral of the series is simple, be afraid of IT people) otherwise they will invent a quantum computer and will slap you in the face in all possible realities)
It was cool to show that a stupid joke from childhood can change the reality of an innocent person, making the scene tragic. Then he finished her off with a childish fight, since both heroines have not grown up since then. As a result, the psychological drama became a sci-fi parable. A sad ending indeed. The cycle repeats. Perhaps she will become even more villainous than the nerd prankster. By the way, we probably all came up with the amulet thing in childhood when we didn't know how to get out of situations.
The dialogue of the main characters, where Varity makes Maria speak Chinese, is literally a scene from Ruby Sparks, where gg shows his power by programming his girlfriend to speak French. 🤔
The episode is worse than the first one, the dramatic line is weaker. But the story itself is interesting, well-inflated as the plot progresses. The mind of this blonde is amazing, she was sitting downtrodden, making plans for revenge. As a result, she created some kind of unknown machine that can change reality like hell. In general, the thing is interesting, judging by the way her work was explained, there is some kind of limitless number of realities into which the blonde jumps with her victim. Or she takes a piece of them and transfers it to the current reality. I didn't fully understand this nuance.
Gaslighting with the help of technology, or I don't know what to call it) but the season continues to deliver great episodes The end is funny of course)))
The series is excellent right up to the very end. the ending is merged as in the Matrix trilogy. it would be better if, as in repo men, it turned out that everything was a simulation from some point on. that genius girl couldn't make a mistake like that and not make one of her first wishes. "I have an invulnerable and eternal body." + something about an even more brilliant mind. but people love happy endings.
I actually thought that since it was clear that the situation was so serious, then we should physically eliminate it at the first convenient opportunity - say, right in the scene where she drinks milk. but she's taller and probably physically stronger, just any weapon (scissors) will do. and the suddenness. When gg had a knife in his hand in the last fight scene, I thought that was the key mistake, you'd end up with this knife (or this virtual iteration of yours, well, that's practically what happened. too stupid to please a wide audience.
also, the plot is exactly like a short amateur story about a magic locket that changes reality following any inscription made by its wearer from some kind of computer magazine like the world of fiction, so 2005
That's certainly not the ending I wanted. Gg deserves all the worst for causing psychological trauma to another person for the rest of her life. I condemn bullying. It's a pity gg didn't get a decent punishment.
At first, of course, this blondie was wildly infuriating, but then I thought it served her victims right. You shouldn't have been such a jerk at school. You ruined her life in the past, she ruined yours in the present, bitches. Noooo, someone got too arrogant and let their guard down..and life))
The second episode and again to the point. It seems to be about the Mandela effect, but it seems to be about quantum multiworlds. I watched it with pleasure, just like the previous episode. 2 episodes, the flight is normal!
The creators of "Black Mirror" gave the audience a real gaslighting in a series dedicated to the Mandela effect.
Netflix showed the same episode, but with different names of the diner the characters are arguing about; Some of the audience saw that the place was called Bernie's, while others were shown a variant called Barnie's.; Thus , the authors deliberately provoked disagreements and disputes between people .; It's about the Bête Noire series, where the main character is sure that her boyfriend worked at Barnie's, while everyone around her claims that the restaurant was called Bernie's; 😶Or vice versa, depending on the version that the viewer got.
In the comments to this episode, there were a frightening number of people justifying bullying and condemning its victims. Basically, since bullying is such a minor and petty act, there's nothing wrong with wishing their children to experience it. I wish.
A quote on the topic from the drama about bullying: "From what the victims have lost, what can they give back? Only his honor and pride. Nothing else. Some gain them through forgiveness, others through revenge in order to reach a starting point. Only there will the life of a 19-year-old finally begin....".
Victims of bullying live with it to the end. The freaks who created hell forget about it in a second, crossing the threshold of the school.
And it seemed to me that the creators of the episode referred to the book Tufty Priestess 2. Event Management, by Vadim Zeland (known for Reality Transurfing). But with a more technological bent. In Zeland's book, the mirror of reality is a metaphor for the separation of the material world (the front side) and the space of the "film archive" (the reverse side), where future options are stored. Event management takes place through working with attention and intention through the looking glass. Both authors raise the question of who really directs the events in our lives.: we ourselves or some external forces, be it the energy of intention or the algorithms of technology.
The beginning of the episode is the classic "Black Mirror". At the end, it was like watching a preview of the new season of Rick and Morty. Ambiguous, but very interesting.
A weak series. Delusional. I love Black Mirror when it adheres to the genre of realism and fiction, without moving into the fantasy genre. And here is a fantasy with parallel worlds and miracle remotes. I don't like such episodes. You can come up with so many cool ideas without stooping to such stuff.
But okay, let's say Verity is a child prodigy who invented the remote control. But how does it work? I was sure that according to the finger scanner, everything pointed to this. But no, by voice command, it turns out. Lol. It is very reliable, and most importantly logical. And I was also amused that the cops didn't shoot the heroine right on the spot, even though she was black (sorry, I couldn't resist)
Episode — fire! Instead of sleeping, I couldn't get away from the screen and drop the feeling that there was a setup somewhere. It's a cool idea, and beautifully shot. And this blonde is a mini version of Nicole Kidman — with her grin after drinking milk, right up to goosebumps!
This series has gone very far! I didn't even think that something would be connected with quantum physics, even at some point I began to doubt myself, but did Maria really have an allergy to nuts? In short! The series is top, it's clear that this whole thing with the pendant is just a cycle of "power" over the whole world
@aliashhka: This series is not related to quantum physics. It's just mentioned here as a magic wand. They might as well have called it superstring theory or the almond milk effect, it wouldn't make sense anymore.
Great episode! At the very beginning, we were shown a cap with the name of the diner several times, and then I realized that they were showing it to us for a reason, so I clearly remembered the name. And then I was in the confoze when the cap changed its name.
Well, almost to the very end, it's some kind of psychological thriller with a touch of mysticism in the spirit of other seasons of AIU. And only at the end they show that this is not mysticism, but science (unnecessarily fantastic). The final scene is a complete cringe: well, it would have stuck in the White House, no, it was necessary to make some kind of rapid 3D collision for some reason.
I didn't understand one thing, since this pendant can change reality in any way, which prevented me from simply saying, "I'm in reality, where I see rumors about jerking off spreading about me." And this investigation shouldn't have been dragged out for months.)
@stantinkin: So what's the point of stretching it? I would have found out who started the rumors first, and then I would have ruined my life and beaten out a confession.
Using near-divine power to depress school bullies is one of the most depressing episodes in the entire series. And the funny thing is, if she was against a classmate even before she started stirring up something against her, then she's still a bitch in fact.
screensavers with days and weeks and chocolate were terrifying because of such music! overall, I really liked it, it kept me in suspense, I love it when a series evokes emotions and makes me think - and that's what I associate with black mirror. and I also like it when the viewer is being manipulated - you don't understand if this is reality or the character's hallucinations. Yes, that was the case in one of the AIU seasons :) maintains interest in order to figure it out in the end. but I never expected that it was the influence of the pendant, I didn't even pay attention to it. at first, when I was trying dessert, I noticed that the blonde was holding a chain in her hands or in her mouth, but then I thought she was doing it out of nerves, because I often do it myself when I'm worried :)) and by the end of the episode, it dawned on me! and I started remembering all the moments when reality changed and how the blonde behaved with that pendant. Great, I liked it!
the only sad thing is that after 4 episodes there will be a long wait again;(
It started very well! they were introduced into the plot, pumped up with these screensavers with the days of the week, with this paranoia and the Mandela effect, you're trying to figure out what's true and what's not, but! In the end, everything comes to such a weak ending... and the part with "the queen of the world" well, it didn't seem to belong at all.
Cool episode. There are no positive characters here, although, of course, you feel a little sorry for Verity before you realize what kind of game she's playing. Only that was a hundred years ago, you can hate classmates, but you can't carry this burden all your life. Maria is also not a gift, her character is complicated, but because she is a gg, you subconsciously take her side more, despite her behavior. And as a result, everything turned out in her favor, it turns out that each of them wanted the same thing. It's ironic. The image of Maria at the end was based on Beyonce)
The young ladies are worth each other, of course))) And their desires are similar. It's just that one is smart, and the other is luckier in the end. The series has gone very far, it's not trivial. The inserts with the days of the week are very reminiscent of something, but I don't understand what exactly.
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320Who wouldn't want a pendant like that?
Finally, a universe where there is a second season of Flash Forward.
I just wanted to drag her in. 😂😂
I was quiet at school and grew up, I started taking revenge with the help of a pendant.
"It's all her!"
It's a funny and hilarious episode in a good way, but.. At first, there is a very curious paranoid atmosphere here, where together with the main character you barely understand what the hell is going on, but as in any bad thriller, the story here is based on fantastic assumptions that negate the whole atmosphere, leaving only bewilderment. It looks more like a fanfiction of David Fincher's Disappeared than it looks like a full-fledged work. But the perplexity here is pleasant, leaving a pleasant aftertaste. And everything is very well shot, you just want to watch the story.
I think this is more of a second episode of Red Mirror than a part of Black Mirror. And that's probably a good thing.
This means that all parallel universes are mixed up and this pendant exists simultaneously in the right and wrong hands. Heh, that's such a fool it turns out)))
that's weird, because it's none of her business.
That's how the pendant works!))
Another cool episode, I definitely like this season.
The ending is as absurd as possible, but it's very funny. Yes, it's not about the near future, as it used to be in Black Mirror, but it's a good entertaining fantasy short film.
What a good first episode, something slipped here, I hope it will get better later.
Well, with retaliatory bullying, that's the whole point. in order not to just violate the reality in which rumors were spreading. to watch your sworn enemy's mentality crumble. just with a slave, it would be banal, but here everything is quite psychologically subtle. the series is one of the best for me over the last 2-3 seasons.
They've already said in the comments above that they were rooting for Verity rather than Maria — and I kind of support that too! Honestly, if I had a similar thing, I would also go to take revenge on the offenders. because, I don't know, maybe try to behave appropriately and not bully people until they create a major injury for life, so that in the future they don't go crazy, invent a reality-changing machine and try to drive you crazy and kill you! you fuck around and you find out! but joking aside, yes, driving to death is certainly tough, but she's clearly already gone deep into it + drunk on power.
and for me, the scariest moment of the series is when everyone forgot about the existence of allergies. as an allergy sufferer, I would honestly go out the window at the moment when there were no answers to the query "nut allergy" on Google... like NO WAY I've been living with this nightmare all my life, and now they're trying to convince me that I made it all up — I'd better be gone
If everyone had such a thing, it would be a complete disaster, of course.
The plot is cool, the idea is non-standard, but it seemed a little too fantastic to me. Everything seems to be fine, as if I liked it, but at the same time something was missing, there was a strange feeling left.
But still, this is a black mirror, everything is possible here.
But it's still an interesting idea. It all depends on the taste, someone will like it, and someone will not.
And so, the series is great)
For some reason, most of the commentators are on the main character's side.
Although from the very first seconds we can practically see that she has a rather peculiar character.
Even when this Verity just came to taste test.
In general, I'm not impressed with the heroine.
To justify that children don't understand anything and just blurted out something is not an excuse.
If you know how to say what is good, what is bad.
Or will we maintain the trend that if a person is just quiet, maybe a little weird and uncommunicative, put him in the furnace? Will you raise your children the same way?
Mock the weak so that you won't be considered weak?
Verity has been storing up pain and resentment for a long time, and that's what it resulted in.
It's even a pity that she died, maybe she would have shot herself after that.
Against the background of all this, her roof is most likely leaking.
If you don't understand the difference between trial and lynching, then you probably shouldn't explain it.
You're twisting this, I haven't written that anywhere.
Should we be responsible? Definitely. In childhood and at the age when this action is performed. According to the law.
After 10 years of lynching, no. Even uncomplicated murders have a statute of limitations of only 15 years, that is, at 18 he killed, at 35 he can no longer be afraid (maybe there are other dates, too lazy to Google in detail). And in your eyes, 14 called names among other schoolchildren, pay at 30+.
The screenwriter suggests that we, as viewers, support and sympathize with the abuser.
No, Verity Verity's abuser, Maria Bully, was the one who did it many years ago. Bully is not always an abuser. And Verity is a person who has received unlimited power and uses it to satisfy sadistic tendencies.
Maria did not enjoy Verity's worries. She was jealous or afraid of her. And Verity enjoys Maria's suffering.
>> without making this hero at least think about the horrors she creates.
You didn't look very closely.
They didn't tell us much about bullying at school, only in smears - they came up with a gossip that a friend spread, called us an insulting nickname, which the whole school called. Maybe there was something else, but that doesn't answer the question of why no one was friends with Verity.
But we were shown in detail how Verity is bullying, namely abusing another person now. The whole episode was shown.
But the main character has never done anything wrong to anyone in the present, and Verity is doing bad things at the moment and already as an adult, and this is a completely different responsibility and attitude.
Bullying is bad, but it is impossible to pin responsibility on one teenager for the fact that her words were picked up by the school. It was the adults who didn't side with Verity in the first place.
You probably made something up at school too, it's just that your fiction didn't become popular and you forgot. But whether she brought pain to someone, you don't know and you won't remember.
If your classmates make fun of you every day. In this case, they call you a milkmaid and say that you had sex with a teacher, these are not small things.
The child is quiet and withdrawn, she might be ashamed to admit to her parents and just waited for it to pass.
And all these name-calling and teasing from day to day.
Imagine your boss telling you every day at work that you're a piece of shit, relatively speaking.
I wasn't a bully to actively joke and mock anyone.
2) if the adults didn't stop it, the adults are to blame, at least one teacher knew. I didn't help her - I'm terribly sorry for her, but then she should take revenge on the teacher, shouldn't she?
3) she took revenge after coming out of a traumatic situation. What you have described is a terrible experience, and if a person living in this vicious circle of abuse and violence has lost his temper, I will understand him very well! But it's a completely different assessment if both are no longer in an abusive-victim relationship. It hasn't been a day, but years. She enjoyed the suffering of her victims and killed. No abuse years ago is an excuse or mitigating circumstance for this, it is her adult choice to become a murderer.
I'm not going to talk about my childhood, but I'm ready to give one example - that in elementary school we had a teacher who was engaged in severe abuse and physical abuse towards a couple of children, I realized somewhere after 30. Not because I didn't remember, but because my brain worked so hard that I decided to put it on the back burner.
The heroine gained strength, became physically stronger than the abusers, and used it for abuse, not to sort out the past or save someone. Strange, yes, why is there no empathy for her? )) But it's strange to me that someone feels empathy for her.
But bullying is not a criminal offense, to be honest. And there didn't seem to be any abuse. Judging from the movie.
>> You have a very bad idea of human psychology!
Can I regard this as bullying? You didn't understand what I was writing about at all, but you're giving me a negative assessment. Getting out of a traumatic situation is not equal to healing the injury. Don't lump everything together.
Okay, I'll sign it. For example, a victim kills an abuser. Situation 1) kills during a beating - self-defense. 2) he beat her, she lies on the kitchen floor for an hour, takes a knife, kills - murder in a traumatic situation, the abuser has not disappeared from the victim's life and she knows that the abuse will happen again (for example, the Khachaturian sisters, this factor was not taken into account by the Russian court, that they remained in a traumatic situation in another country they would have been acquitted) 3) the wife left the abuser, lived by herself for a year, then took a knife, came and killed - murder outside of a traumatic situation, outside of abuse, there is little chance of justification, despite the unequivocal presence of injury, only if recognized as insane. You can sympathize with her. Unfortunately, it is impossible to justify it (if there were no additional triggers).
The series shows a typical situation number 3.
I am amazed at how you yourself come up with such statements for your interlocutors, and then brand them.
That's it, I'm stopping, it's very exhausting to deny what I didn't write.
I think this is a pretty vital reaction, because after a while, seeing a person you've offended or done something dirty and not worked through it (and not apologized) can also be very difficult. GG said the first time she saw her, "Oh, she's changed." That was the first dissonance-she's not a geek anymore, but an ordinary woman.
And then gg tried with all her might to prove to the guy and the boss that she was weird, she was crazy to justify her school behavior somehow. Because it's very difficult to admit that you poisoned a person just like that. The brain needs to find a reason in the style of "I did it because she herself was somehow different." Hence the automatic negative attitude towards Variety.
It is quite natural that it can be psychologically very difficult for a person to communicate with someone whom he offended and did not find the strength to apologize. An untreated sense of guilt can also be quite overwhelming.
If gg had reacted so lightly to Varaiti's arrival, it would mean that she does not feel any guilt, she never thought at all that she had done something wrong and did not consider it a problem. And here it is just shown that she remembers it and it also makes her uncomfortable.
And I think the actress' (black) appearance is the factor that makes someone else sympathize with her. Tolerance does not allow us to think that Maria is also negative, plus Verity has a more sinister vibe and unpleasant facial expressions.
In fact and by design, there is simply NO positive heroine here. The audience wants to sympathize with someone, and they choose according to their life experience (Verity) or the idea that the main / black heroine is always better (Maria). But in fact, they are both obviously disgusting (like all/most people, according to the authors) and, having gained power, they inevitably had to turn into tyrants.
And with the reaction when she came to taste testing, you just didn't understand why this was the case - everything in the series is looped in this regard, you need to look more closely.
So you've come up with her image for yourself rather, that's how you can support anyone. And who is there to support? A man who believes he can take other people's lives?
Do you know what message I saw in the episode? If we discard all the wrappers with multiverses and so on, maybe it was hinted that you can't live in the past, and that revenge is meaningless? Indeed, it's just starting some kind of wheel of samsara; now Maria will fall into it, then she will end up like Verity...
at first I thought it might be about some kind of progressive disease or that we were not being shown reality, but some kind of analogue of San Francisco.Junipero and he suddenly got excited
as a result, neither Maria nor Verity aroused much sympathy in me, although I would like to empathize with Verity a little more morally. but they basically just turned the tables, first Maria bullied Verity, and now this initiative has passed into the hands of Verity, and in general there is a feeling that both heroines have not grown mentally from their school days, one is brusque and boorish, and the second is blinded solely by revenge... like many here, I think the ending is completely inappropriate and pointless, I wanted to reveal more about the bullying topic, preferably Maria's sincere remorse (ideally also Verity's remorse for Natalie's murder)
, the expectations in general somehow did not come true (
The boss's behavior is also illogical. Your employee has been working for years, and your assistant has been working for two days. And they immediately have a conflict. Before that, everything was OK. Who is the more valuable asset? A quick dismissal, and they did not show Coulomb's interference in this.
Of the two, gg sympathized, because the problem of bullying is solved not so much by children as by adults - teachers, parents, psychologists. She blames the wrong adults.
The ending has never been a happy ending at all, it will now clearly go the same way as its predecessor.
At first, I thought the plot was wrapped up in some unusual way, but when this thing with the pendant appeared, I realized that I had hoped in vain.
Especially funny in the world of Illuminati conspiracy theories)
There is no "to think about."
After all, we all have such baggage. And then life gives you opportunities that you miss because of this past experience.
In this episode, the situation was simply exaggerated, but I see the point this way.
It's good that people seem to have a simple plot that caused such reasoning. So the authors were able to capture the mood of the audience.
But the series is cool, the shot at the end surprised and pleased me in general))
In addition, you can see real popular science books nearby, such as:
- Data Analysis of Asymmetric Structures
- Hiding in the Mirror
- Music by the Numbers: From Pythagoras to Schoenberg
- Quantum Computing: An Applied Approach
Suddenly someone will be interested)
in theory, it should only work if both the fingerprint and the voice are correct.
One of the themes raised in the series is fire! Damn, but it's true that if something isn't on the Internet, then we automatically don't believe in the existence of this or that fact. And on the contrary, we believe in any game that they write there! Is the earth flat? Yes, it's written on the Internet. Is there no allergy to nuts? Of course, there's not a word about it on the web. I'm thrilled with the idea!
And as soon as Verity appeared in the frame, even before the main events unfolded, I felt some kind of anxiety that would not let go until the end of the episode.
I liked the series, and among other things, interesting topics were raised for discussion: revenge after school bullying, psychological pressure, gaslighting, and TOPPINGS FOR CHOCOLATE BARS.
As I said, I've been feeling anxious and tense all series. But the ending surprised me on the one hand (I thought that the evil in the face of Verity would win), and disappointed me on the other hand (I'm not a boyar, but a LADY).
PS Are you taking the elevator up to the second floor, Maria? Really?))
The series itself is depressing, but in a pleasant way. I'm glad that there was no devilry, although it's absolutely fantastic, even beyond the emergency
I also rewound the episode at the very beginning, when there was a dispute about the spelling of the restaurant's name, to make sure that Maria was right and it was spelled with A. 😁
Gaslighting at the level.
I have my own questions about the blondie character. 😈
It's scary what to say
+ if you imagined, what if in a parallel reality your other personality has already come up with such a thing and can pass it on to you
As for the series itself, it's "transitional age" 2.0. Well, more precisely, only the plot about school bullying and gaslighting, only the victim survived and was left with psychological trauma.
The series is not bad, but if you evaluate it within the framework of the emergency, then the rating is low.
The pendant is a childhood dream)))
GG is a very unpleasant character. She is very aggressive, likes to put herself above everyone, and is very arrogant. Especially after I heard the story about blondie bullying, I immediately changed my attitude towards her. She was weird at school, so no one wanted to be friends with her, so we decided to bully her. An abomination. She even liked how she annoyed her. It's a pity that evil won in the end.
(Yes, a quantum computer, these words don't make the series any more techno/scientific. moreover, in order for this great thinker to find the necessary reality in a split second, according to the wording "I want to go to a universe where I am the queen," it is necessary that he be tuned at least to the frequency of her brain, and not just to her finger, otherwise it would not even be a stretch to explain how it all works).
And why did the pendant immediately switch to a new owner after the blonde's death - is voice recognition that difficult? And so it turns out to be one person's fingerprint, but whose voice is it anyway? And if so, then who is the brunette for the pendant - the imprint is not hers, the voice does not matter - why did the pendant suddenly obey her, how did he recognize her at all? It's not Aladdin's lamp.: whoever picked it up is the owner. It's a very stupid defense for such a miracle machine.
Well, the questions raised are very strangely revealed: did the blonde achieve maximum worship and recognition in other worlds - and this did not cover up her childhood traumas? Just a trivial revenge? And the brunette is the only thing she immediately desired - unlimited power? These are such primitive ideas.
The beginning is not bad and the ending is very stupid.
It's like a short film about a one-minute time machine :D
The series is funny, but there are a lot of assumptions, of course. It turns out that Verity was carrying evidence of her greatness with her from reality to reality? After all, in this reality she is a travel agent and has never been the queen of the world.
At least they could have made it so that after receiving the pendant, they started to fix everything...
At first I thought the series was about gaslighting, but then, as usual, the idea turned out to be much deeper.
But now all this has become more relevant than ever - the fight against dissent and all that.
It seems that now all those in power have their own similar pendants, and the reality is made up of who is stronger...
I was bullied all through elementary school, I never wanted to take revenge or even get mad at these people, I forgot about them a long time ago, but I understand that bullying is different.
The conclusion of my situation, when you know how unpleasant it is, you don't do that to others, the conclusion of the series, don't poison your strange classmates, they can drive you crazy.
. We had a very strange teacher, he didn't seem trustworthy, there was some kind of threat
, and from the outside it seemed that he got very close to one of our classmates
. There was a trip, like a camping trip, and from there there were also rumors that a physicist was rubbing the leg of this classmate privately
in In general, to be honest, it was scary for her that she was influenced
and it could come to something bad.
My best friend and I tried to talk to her, find out the truth, and then she passed this conversation on to the teacher)
we were already afraid we wouldn't finish school, that he might just fail
in the end, everything somehow ended by itself
. He didn't take revenge on us. I hope this classmate won't be 😁 My name is Maria, by the way.
in the whole story, it was more like I was scared for her, that there might be a jerk next to her, no one bullied her, she was generally smart, she drew very well
, I don't know how she lives now, what about the teacher, it took a couple of years after graduation, the story was forgotten until Haven't watched this episode
It would probably be more interesting if something was related to computers, conditionally, it's really possible to correct some information in the computer, but at the moment with the baseball cap it became clear that this would not happen.
She's clever at it! It was unexpected
The moral of the series is simple, be afraid of IT people) otherwise they will invent a quantum computer and will slap you in the face in all possible realities)
A sad ending indeed. The cycle repeats. Perhaps she will become even more villainous than the nerd prankster. By the way, we probably all came up with the amulet thing in childhood when we didn't know how to get out of situations.
The end is funny of course)))
I actually thought that since it was clear that the situation was so serious, then we should physically eliminate it at the first convenient opportunity - say, right in the scene where she drinks milk. but she's taller and probably physically stronger, just any weapon (scissors) will do. and the suddenness. When gg had a knife in his hand in the last fight scene, I thought that was the key mistake, you'd end up with this knife (or this virtual iteration of yours, well, that's practically what happened. too stupid to please a wide audience.
also, the plot is exactly like a short amateur story about a magic locket that changes reality following any inscription made by its wearer from some kind of computer magazine like the world of fiction, so 2005
Netflix showed the same episode, but with different names of the diner the characters are arguing about;
Some of the audience saw that the place was called Bernie's, while others were shown a variant called Barnie's.;
Thus , the authors deliberately provoked disagreements and disputes between people .;
It's about the Bête Noire series, where the main character is sure that her boyfriend worked at Barnie's, while everyone around her claims that the restaurant was called Bernie's;
😶Or vice versa, depending on the version that the viewer got.
A quote on the topic from the drama about bullying:
"From what the victims have lost, what can they give back? Only his honor and pride. Nothing else. Some gain them through forgiveness, others through revenge in order to reach a starting point. Only there will the life of a 19-year-old finally begin....".
Victims of bullying live with it to the end. The freaks who created hell forget about it in a second, crossing the threshold of the school.
But okay, let's say Verity is a child prodigy who invented the remote control. But how does it work? I was sure that according to the finger scanner, everything pointed to this. But no, by voice command, it turns out. Lol. It is very reliable, and most importantly logical. And I was also amused that the cops didn't shoot the heroine right on the spot, even though she was black (sorry, I couldn't resist)
Instead of sleeping, I couldn't get away from the screen and drop the feeling that there was a setup somewhere.
It's a cool idea, and beautifully shot. And this blonde is a mini version of Nicole Kidman — with her grin after drinking milk, right up to goosebumps!
I didn't even think that something would be connected with quantum physics, even at some point I began to doubt myself, but did Maria really have an allergy to nuts? In short! The series is top, it's clear that this whole thing with the pendant is just a cycle of "power" over the whole world
And the series.... It seems to me that this is the limit of many people's dreams. To be worshipped. Rush. I want to continue 😅
And the funny thing is, if she was against a classmate even before she started stirring up something against her, then she's still a bitch in fact.
the only sad thing is that after 4 episodes there will be a long wait again;(
Maria is also not a gift, her character is complicated, but because she is a gg, you subconsciously take her side more, despite her behavior. And as a result, everything turned out in her favor, it turns out that each of them wanted the same thing. It's ironic.
The image of Maria at the end was based on Beyonce)
The series has gone very far, it's not trivial. The inserts with the days of the week are very reminiscent of something, but I don't understand what exactly.