Paul Giamatti💔 A whole life that didn't happen because of nonsense and a note. At the beginning of the episode, anger was still lingering through gg's words, but at the end it was impossible not to come to terms with💛 and a slight nod that everything was exactly like that, not otherwise.
The episode is filled with emotional depth, and the finale left a feeling of bright sadness and hope. This is one of those episodes that remind you why Black Mirror is such a unique and important series!
What a fascinating story 💔 It reminds us once again that in the most emotional moments, we can only see everything from our bell tower. And we always think that only our "truth" exists. Although this is far from the case.…
I was pleasantly surprised by the appearance of Paul Giamatti 😍 How fast the years fly by, my Big Fat Liar ♥️
Wow, this episode just reminded me of the game Life is Strange! Both the snapshots and the scenes from the past all immediately refer to that atmospheric game.
It's a very cool series, it's just here. I wish I could look at the photo like that and immediately return to those moments.…
It's funny that when they showed what was happening inside the photo, the faces of the people there were also blurred, an unusual and very interesting idea. And the locations are well designed, it really reminded me of Life is Strange. Such an original series turned out, my soul rejoices.
The series is really cool, but the plot turned out to be unexpectedly sad. I was even surprised by this turn at the end (I won't spoil it, in case someone reads the comments without watching the episode). But I will say one thing, this episode pleasantly surprised me.
@elfiina: The idea of blurring the faces of those you don't remember from the photo is not very new, at least it was in the Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. But the series as a whole is similar to this movie :)
At the beginning of the episode, I somehow didn't get hooked - it seemed that there would be something rather boring. But the further I went, the deeper I sank. Such a strong longing for real life and for those moments that cannot be returned.… In the end, I just couldn't calm down. I really love Black Mirror for such emotional shocks and for reasons to sit in silence, look into the dark and think about life.
@panicMoonlight: when he read out the letter, I just couldn't stand it, paused and went out for a walk for at least a couple of minutes. It would seem such a simple story, but so punchy.
The episode wasn't exactly bright compared to the others in the season, but it was interesting and Giamatti was pleased. And the technology of immersion in photography is implemented great).
It's a good solid drama series. Of course, there is a question as to how he could not remember the face of the beloved of his whole life, but come on. 4/5
@Vescero: It's simple. When you hate a person with all your heart, plus grief and sorrow. That you carve a person's face everywhere. Plus, it's been 20 years. If you multiply all this, at least the facial features will be erased, so it's quite
@alexsomar: Well, if she was a one-night stand or a week-long affair, then yes. But they've been a couple for three years. I also don't understand how it's possible to forget a face that, after three years of intimacy, can be studied better than a mother's face.
@analemma: If it weren't for the photos, I wouldn't remember the face of my father, who died 23 years ago. There are some silhouettes and images that you cling to. But there is no clear image. I remember the way I see him in the photo. But this photo So it's natural and it's not fiction. The memory is being erased
@analemma: and you try to clearly imagine the faces of your loved ones, whom you haven't seen for at least a month. You will represent the face, the general features, but it will not result in a clear image. Yes, if you meet someone on the street who you were in love with, you are highly likely to recognize the person, but it's very difficult to just remember what the person looked like.
@umaryan: It all very much depends on how a person's visual memory works, and in general, how they remember some people's photographic memory, and some people don't.
For example, I can often describe to friends what clothes they were wearing on a certain day when we went there, or imagine in detail the faces of long-dead relatives or even my classmates in the kindergarten. But memorizing numbers is tough for me) there are always big problems with people's birthdays, PIN codes, or historical events.
@albinka_: Not a word about the numbers at all... I loved history in school, but remembering all these years when something happened was a separate kind of pain for me. I still often forget how old I am xD
@Vescero: he remembered when he was mentally ready. And before that, he believed that she had left him for no reason and refused to remember in fact. Plus, we often remember our feelings about something more than the object itself. And there it was necessary to remember the face clearly
@Vescero: It's strange that he kept it all. I mean, it's easier to throw out the postcards than to paint over the words and put the postcards in a box for storage. They will still remind you of everything, even without messages.
@Vescero: Our brains are incredible, and so is our psyche. Traumatic moments are erased from memory so that a person can live and move on. Well, GG just mentioned that it took him 15 years to do it...
@Vescero: together with him, I decided to try to remember the dialogues of "first love", which was about 15 years ago - I don't remember anything))) Even the first kiss in my life is very blurry to remember
That's why I can understand him like no one else.😂
And I completely forgot the faces of some classmates, as well as their existence))) therefore, the brain can easily erase something unnecessary over time.
@Denis_Arslanov: It's been 15 years since graduation, and even when I meet someone on the street, I can't remember who I studied with for 10 years, and after another 15 years, I would remember myself and recognize myself in a mirror (black).
This is a black mirror! A drama, an interesting plot that gradually unfolds. Technologies that even look plausible! The story itself is about ordinary people, about love. The end is very touching and sad. The plot is simple, so everyone can put themselves in the place of the hero or his girlfriend. The combination of how it was shot, technology and plot with an interesting drama On 10 out of 10 I'm watching the episodes in order. It is unlikely that the latter will surpass this one. I'll say this poem is the best of the season. In second place is the series about Verity. On the third with Capaldi And on the last one, where in the old movie they just replaced a man with a woman.
@Graf_Mryakula: it's more like the rage of the day and more obvious. Everything becomes clear there when the heroine's husband sees a stupid show to get money. And then you gradually get to know the main character. There's no plot twist. More elegant in general
Reliving memories is as difficult as catching a river with your hand.
A piece of life. Mistakes, quarrels, scandals, habits, self-torture, aggression, swearing, losses and loneliness. But so is love, separation, caring, beauty, support, and forgiveness. It's all in a piece of life.
It's struck. Punched and chewed. It's a simple story, but it's touching and heartfelt. It's something therapeutic, something too sincere to evaluate objectively or put into words. I wish this technology existed in reality. For the first time in the entire series.
It's like it's not even a completely Black Mirror, in the sense that these technologies seem to be useful to everyone. They helped to close the gestalt of G.G. in a sense, they gave him the opportunity to get to know his daughter who had not left.
@Scheusalwirt: The main thing is that the accompanying assistant has psychological skills, because without her guidance, gg would have remained in his emotions and would not have seen the truth.
I'm crying from the bottom of my heart, thank you. It's a very good episode, I can't find fault with anything, and I'm glad that Paul Giamatti got such a decent plot. As a result, he worked it to the maximum, raising the series to a truly high level. Honestly, I didn't expect that in the seventh season of CHZ I would get so excited. Good!
It's such a heavy episode, but there's such lightness and light sadness afterwards, as if you're throwing something heavy off your soul. Phil is an unpleasant abusive guy who has "I'm poor, everyone is bad," and diving into the photos seemed to give him a chance to look at everything from the other side himself.
I'm glad that CHZ is developing their universe slowly, in general, the series does not slip over the years, this season is many times better than the previous two (the creators more than redeemed those beloved werewolves), we see everything again that we loved this series for! I want more and more often
@dannoise: No, well, specifically here, she did a really bad thing. Yes, I left the letter, but I didn't even think it got through. And she probably thought she was good that she told him everything and didn't ruin his life, but the man suffered for 15 years, thought what was wrong with him, wasn't born, didn't come out.
@densto: both were apparently young maximalists, he could also try to talk to her again and explain himself. And she could try to get in touch with him. It's just some kind of youthful pride, apparently. It's just another example of how important it is to talk, solve issues directly, and make informed points, rather than going off alone to suffer, inventing something for yourself, and not knowing the truth.
@albinka_: I agree, he could have found meetings somehow, too. But it turns out that she shrugged off responsibility, like, well, I wrote, but he didn't come. But I had to wonder if he had read it at all. It's like a text message breakup, but she didn't even look to see if there was a check mark read. Yes, it's pride, the fear of telling and discussing your mistakes, the fear of being abandoned.
@densto: she was obviously burning with shame without responding to the letter and was sure that he simply did not accept her betrayal and the child, on her part this is not maximalism, but a sense of guilt.
Oh, perhaps the most emotional episode, so simple in terms of technology, but it affects a person so much. I was very hooked on the plot, and the main duet is good, Paul Giamatti gave one of the best performances in the series. Also, this letter is a pain, how many emotions when he read it. At the beginning of the series, when the main character heard about England, he wasn't going to go there at all, but at the end he went, and it was filmed at the door, too, as moments with memories. In general, I am delighted with the series, it is wonderful.
@faux_modesty: there would be nothing to show in a movie if it didn't exist in real life. The AI was taken out of the stash and given to people, before showing it in the cinema. Or robots now. First they show you in the cinema, then they show you here, sign up.
I really miss the first seasons of CHZ and the feeling of shock that I felt after watching it. somewhere after season 4, this thrill from the series disappeared for me and probably won't appear again. but this series is so beautiful and vital in its own way. They beautifully and very touchingly revealed the topic of regrets, awareness of mistakes, how it could have been and how it turned out. In the end, my eyes were wet. favorite episode of the season
oh, this is the good old black mirror, where by the end of the series, from terrible sadness and hopelessness, I want to go out the window (( I am very offended by such plots about lost time and a lost life. One little thing, one unnoticed note, and so many lives have changed forever.
I should be hitting on my mother 's ex right now . She wouldn 't let him say a word . Why such a grudge against him? His mother didn't give birth to him. I didn't feel sorry for anyone.
@fb1396700: I think the mother was offended by him, and she told her daughter a lot, but the daughter knew about the letter, so she knew the whole story from her mother's side, and she thought that he just turned out to be a weak asshole who couldn't accept what had happened. Although no one is obligated to adopt someone else's child.
@Tiinsa: Most likely, the resentment was not because he could not accept the child, but because he did not even try to talk to her about the situation and simply left her in a difficult situation. Of course, he didn't have to accept someone else's child, but it would have been right to say so directly (if he had read the note). Although without a note, trying to contact her again and understand why she doesn't want to get married would be an adequate reaction, after all, we've been together for 3 years. But it seems he was a very impulsive person.
@albinka_: Well, he was in shock, crushed. Because the person didn't just leave the restaurant, but ran away from the room, i.e. he made it clear that he didn't want anything more in common. Don't justify it. She wrote in the note that she wanted to keep the baby. I understand he cheated, it's unpleasant, she cheated in return. It's even possible to forgive each other and move on. But she literally confronted him with the fact that she had already made the decision to keep the child, that is, a living reminder of the betrayal, and he should look at this reminder every day. Literally, every day. He would have written to it, yes, because he loved it. But over time, this thought corroded him, he would always live with a drop of hatred, which would later pass on to the child. So don't look at it from the perspective that MY BODY IS MY BUSINESS. If she made a mistake, he shouldn't have to suffer all his life now because of her. This is the difference in the betrayal of a female from a male - the establishment of paternity. If a man has 10 wives, he will know that all the children are from him, and if a woman has 10 husbands, there will be confusion. Men and women are different, it's enough to equate. No one is better and no one is worse, just different. She screwed up on her own and ended up resenting him, a fool in general. If she loved me so much, she would have tried to contact me again, because she ran away.
@SSSuLA: and what do you find a contradiction in my comment? I write everywhere that both are fools and both are to blame. How could you just leave after several years of a relationship without talking properly, without trying to clarify the situation? It's just that it turned out to be stupid, everyone was offended, everyone thought of something for themselves. After a while, it was possible to get off and try to contact. At least through friends. Had she cut off all contact so completely that she hadn't even reached him through her friends?
The hero said that his life was ruined when she left and he had ALREADY lived his life badly. Without her and without the baby. If he had found out about the baby, maybe everything would have been better, or at least he could have made the decision to leave on his own.
Anyone who remembers the past is out of his sight. Folk wisdom, the whole series wondered why he decided to remember anything if the memories were negative, clearly bringing him pain, like some kind of masochist. Yes, the note brightened up the absurdity and senselessness of what was happening, like he had finally forgiven her and realized that she loved him, and now for the rest of his short life he would blame himself for missing out on love, because the idiot had not noticed the note. It's just a great ending (no). Sometimes I dream of people from the past who I was in love with, whom I would never remember in my present life if I were in my right mind, and when I wake up, I think - what the fuck!
@Tiinsa: No, the basis is that he realized that she loved him. It's a light sadness. So light is the key here. He will continue to live with light in his heart.
The most emotional episode of this season is for me personally, as a person who also periodically reviews old photos and remembers what happened. Music combined with photos really enhance the effect several times and allow you to live and feel these moments again.
It doesn't let go of the feeling that the creators of this episode watched the Smesharikov series "Lost Apologies", were inspired and seasoned it with the technologies of the future.
At first, it seemed to me that the episode would be stuffy, but this is the most touching thing that could be shown in the CHZ. My heart is broken into a million pieces.💔
It was a good episode, it reminded me of the Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind and Past lives, and I was crying from all this, and this episode was no exception.
That's how much I hate looking at my old photos, how my memory hurts, and I also felt bad about this series (((
The most gorgeous season, which is not a series, is a masterpiece. It's a very sad and very instructive episode. I just want to scream, didn't Carol ever think that Philip just might not have seen the letter? But that's why it breaks my heart that everything is left unsaid, and such moments really happen in life. We create problems and limitations for ourselves by rejecting happiness and becoming trapped in illusions.
It soars into the top of my favorite episodes of all in the World. The topic of loss is very difficult, and here there is also the pain that has been carried through so many years ... and exactly when there is nothing to return and nothing to talk about... That's the worst part.
Once again, I would like to remind myself that it is very important for everyone in all respects to be able to talk with words through their mouths about everything.
It's a great series. Exactly what I expected from the new season. I couldn't tear myself away, I watched as if mesmerized, I empathized with the characters...And that bitter aftertaste at the end. But with a drop of relief from the fact that I finally saw her ... I think this episode will be remembered for a long time.
A classic emergency. A heartwarming series with a very clearly traceable morality, which is quite unusual for this series. The drama is getting worse by the minute. At one point, my wife and I even apologized to each other because, coincidentally, we had a fight about a small thing at the beginning of the viewing. I think everyone has been in Philip's or Carol's shoes. A good series with a pleasant bitter aftertaste
I watched this episode last. Feelings are mixed. I kind of liked it in the end, and the idea, and the course of the story. But in the process of watching, when you don't know what they're leading to and there's no information about how their lives turned out, objections kept coming up. And there was a feeling that they were leading to some kind of confession of a bad deed or even a crime, because it was unclear why the guide should put pressure on the main character, for example, that she did not play the viola in the group, he kind of forced her. In the 90s, at the peak of rock bands' popularity, what kind of cello? I would have come in today, maybe, but not then. As if Carol couldn't figure it out for herself. Then there were confessions of jealousy, quarrels, infidelity - and you think: they wanted to show that he was a narcissist, an egotist, a man with a sick heart - you can only run from that. But then, it turns out, she wasn't going to leave him, which means he wasn't so bad after a couple of shameful (and alcoholic) episodes. And whether he would have married or left, adopted someone else's child, or then reproached for cheating all his life, we still don't know. And he has not repented of his betrayal. As a result, there was not the most pleasant feeling from the main character, but at the same time irritation that there was not enough information to draw conclusions about him, although the series was about him, not about her.
You live like this, you don't touch anyone, and then life is like this after 30-40 (?) years: Some spammers call and a courier arrives with an AI avatar who judges you, criticizes you for your former youth and makes you emotional and grieve)))
At some point, I was worried that GG would move away from sudden emotions from the past.
It's not the right way to the Moon. Very boring. It resembles a reworking of the series where it was possible to ban the image of a person. I recently watched the Russian film Getting to Know my Parents, and despite the fact that it doesn't pretend to be anything, the love story there is, in fact, exactly the same, filmed more sincerely and more believably.
In my opinion, this is the strongest series of the season, which is several goals higher than the rest. Firstly, his screenwriting skills. Secondly, a creative visual approach should be introduced into archival photographs. Thirdly, the simply amazing performance of Paul Giamatti, who not only played back, but got used to the image of a man who had been accumulating excruciating pain for years.
At the end of the episode, I couldn't hold back the tears, even though I wasn't hooked by her at the beginning. There is so much pain and simultaneous warmth in these memories. Good acting, and in the end it all came together into a whole touching episode that makes you sit down and think after watching it.
@lyusya86: He was offended that she had left (especially since there was something to leave for). She thought he wasn't accepting her pregnancy. You also need to respect your partner's choice.
@Paramelion: he proposed to her, and she left, he didn't try to find out why. She left a note for the drunk man and hoped that he would notice her. Both of them were not very smart, but they can be attributed to youth/ fervor. But didn't they have any mutual friends who could somehow keep up to date, having information from both sides and explain the situation? Didn't they have anyone in common?
@albinka_: "He didn't try to figure out why" She was aware that he had cheated on her when her friend answered the phone. He thought she left because of that, that she couldn't forgive him.
Yes, it happens that people foolishly or foolishly break up.
@Paramelion: Yes, it is clear that stupidity and a combination of circumstances. It's just that people have been dating for 3 years, and for me it's wild to just silently break up without putting a normal end to the relationship. I understand when such a misunderstanding can occur at the beginning of a novel, when there is no connection between people. But judging by the fact that gg continued to hold on to anger and resentment for so many years (while apparently forgetting that he had originally screwed up himself), it seems that pride was stronger than love.
Well, they've been living together for so long, shouldn't she have at least picked up some things or something? Did she just stay in England with what she came with for a while?
A soulful episode has been released To be honest, it's not surprising that he didn't remember her face right away, people often remember emotions, situations and general facial features, but it's difficult to clearly remember what a person looks like after 10-15 years.
What a sad and heartfelt episode, which is not enough in this series 💔 The story itself cuts to the depths of the soul and in the end it is simply impossible to remain indifferent. This season, I noticed, there's a lot of emphasis on feelings, not just technology. Everything is so harmonious and cool. Definitely one of the best seasons.
In the words of gg, it's time to see you, I thought he might commit suicide there. It was so painful after that letter that I probably wouldn't have been surprised. It's a good thing I was wrong - the end was even more dramatic and bittersweet, or something. In general, there is a lot of romance in this season - 3 out of 5 episodes. And the only motive is to stay together no matter what. The black mirror has softened at the edges) I like it in principle. There is no such challenge as with a pig, but it is still technology, although not always frightening and supernatural, but mundane, often dooming to mental pain and suffering, forcing you to experience losses over and over again. There have been such episodes before, but this season they seem to have a separate focus.
This is definitely the best episode of the season! (I just watched it last) Chuck-Chuck is gorgeous! How technologies are transferred to respect the director. The plot is quite real and very dramatic. It even brought tears to my eyes because of my own associations.
When the girl was shown, I immediately thought that either it was her (he just doesn't remember her), but then when it turned out that they had been dating for a long time and he would definitely have recognized her, then he realized that this was their child (well, he was slightly mistaken).
P.S.: The series is extremely contraindicated for fans of reminiscence and self-reflection (to me)
This is the best episode of the season for me. it doesn't seem to be what you mean by "good old horror", but when there is impeccable drama, and a story played out well, with a heart, it is inherently quite simple, recognizable, which has been delved into very well, relying not on twists and shocking endings, but on the depth and three-dimensionality of the human character - a good series will not cease to be good from a superficial discrepancy with our expectations of the format.
and then: sometimes, as an exception (actually not), technology can be a friend, not an enemy, because if technology is a mirror of our nature, then we are not black and white by nature, we are a spectrum, and this monochrome pendulum is constantly swinging, from our one one error is more painful than the other.
I am very happy to end the season on such a note (I am watching this episode last). It's a beautiful story. the beautiful Paul Giamatti.
PS. if I were translating this series, I would translate the title of this episode as "Farewell". perhaps someone will do so, I don't pretend to be original, it just seems to me that this name would suit this story at all its levels.
Charlie Brooker has become so sentimental. It's a well-made series, everything about it is top notch, except that it's not a Black Mirror again. old Charlie Brooker would not have put any morality and redemption in the ending, he would just have harshly shown that there can be no redemption, and technology will only increase the consequences of selfish (infantile, stupid and any other) decisions of the heroes.
Not when you're not afraid to take a second step or call or write, because life is such an unpredictable thing that it can separate you from your destiny.
at first I thought that the girl's face will never show that's not the point then that would be cool if it showed as she laughs for cello and when this actually happened, I experienced a range of emotions this season as a whole reminded me of why I used to love black mirror so much 💔
On the one hand, the series is really sad. On the other hand, he was so dismissive of the girl, I don't talk about cheating at all, which somehow didn't bring me to tears (although I'm very sentimental), because it sincerely seems to me that a partner like him is more stress than any joy:(
The first half of the series is very tedious, the second one is another matter and makes you think. Live and do it, don't let each other's emotions and mistakes deprive you of happiness!
I didn't understand. Like this kind of misunderstanding happened and they never talked to each other again in their lives, but just sat and suffered in corners all their lives? Well, it's all very doubtful.
@komyn: The last time they saw each other was when he proposed to her, and she left in silence. It hurts self-esteem. She, for her part, was refused to accept her with the child (as it turned out). This is also unpleasant. That's why she didn't seek an appointment either.
Well, that. The story is heartbreaking, of course, and the three-dimensional graphics inside the photos are quite good, but the series itself is boring. Although it's better than the previous one with a psycho drug addict. Or maybe you need to watch it, for example, before the Dream Hotel, in order to get inside the photos first, and only then into the movie. But I'm already used to watching the episodes in order, so I'm sorry)
The ending got cold feet. I feel sorry for the girl. The classic man couldn't keep his friend in his pants, and then rushed to propose after cheating. It seems that Emma had problems with self-esteem, since she decided to take revenge, and then leave a note, giving him another chance (which he did not deserve). I know everything happens in life, but I personally felt zero compassion for the man throughout the series. As well as this Emma. Two dodikas. The idea of the series is good, but the implementation and the lack of any sympathy for the characters have let us down again.
It's amazing, this episode, this is a great movie! How people get lost in life... It's just like in Before Dawn by Linklater But thanks to this technology, alas, not during her lifetime, he was able to understand that she loved him, and she gave him the light that would be with him for the rest of his life. And how many such people still walk around the world, with a lost meaning of life...
I don't know why many people think that this series is straight true. As far as I understand it, the concept of CHZ in its classical form is in the negative impact of technology on human life, in the destructive effect of digitalization on human attitudes and, as a result, on life, in the narcotic harmful effect of IT on physical existence if the doses of technology exceed the conditionally therapeutic ones and a person delegates his life to a figure as much as possible. That's how it was originally stated, and this idea has been broadcast for all seasons. What about here? A person's life is destroyed not because of technology, but because of pride, omissions, unwillingness to show understanding and other things that are absolutely unrelated to IT. I must say right away: the series is great, the actor (I don't know him) absolutely masterfully conveyed all these emotions and brought them out to the emotions of the viewer, but this is not a true classic CHZ or a CHZ at all. Here, it turns out, technology, on the contrary, helped him somehow find a balance. Until the last moment, I thought that this whole Eulogy program would turn out to be far from who they pretended to be, that perhaps some kind of investigation was underway in a case in which gg was indirectly involved, but this would reveal something else that would not be directly related to this case, but which will affect his life and he may even snap because of it. Or maybe they brought him to a rip situation.… Then it would really be true, but it's not, it's just some kind of snot. But, I repeat, it is quite good, but not digitally dependent.
@SergeiH: for me, on the contrary, he did not find peace. His life was broken again. The first time was when she left and he didn't see the letter. He started drinking, etc. , and the second time was when she was already dead. And he found out that she was waiting for him. But now he can't even talk to her. She's dead.…
Well, I can't sympathize with the main character of the episode, it's painfully disgusting to watch his selfishness throughout the series, an excuse for his betrayal. He ruined everything himself.
The episode is cool in terms of drama, and the technology of embedding in the photo is interesting. But to empathize with the story of love, where both are cheating on each other, no, please. Both changed, and for both it meant nothing. So why did it have to be done at all, if it didn't mean anything? To hurt you? Then why do you need a relationship where you want to intentionally hurt your partner? A man slept with another woman, immediately decided to propose, and is surprised that she dumped him (let's discard that she had other reasons, but he didn't know about them). She went on the principle that if I feel bad, then you should feel bad. Is it stupid to regret the loss of this relationship, to marry after cheating, raising someone else's child, who appeared as a result of these infidelities?... Yes, they would be doomed to live in hatred of each other, since they already hated each other so easily after breaking up. It seems there wasn't much love there, just a fleeting passion.
Don't part with your loved ones Don't part with your loved ones Don't part with your loved ones Grow into them with all your blood And every time, say goodbye forever. And every time, say goodbye forever. And every time, say goodbye forever. When you leave for a moment...
I like this touching and sensuality in the new season of black mirror, they convey the strong emotions of the characters very vividly. It is also nice to see the idea of introducing technology for the benefit of the human soul, which is perhaps a rarity for emergencies.
Honestly, for the second series, the negatives in the comments have been infuriating.. "it's boring for them, nonsense, a weak episode.". Stop minding those who like the new season! Pass by
This is a great sensual series! how many were missed just because of one letter. this is probably the technology that I would like to try out now - to enter into the picture and try to remember those moments that were captured in the photo. (the only negative is their relationship, which, I think, could have ended with them breaking up anyway... cheating, long-distance love are already the first bells, but I would really like to believe in the future that he would read the letter and understand her)
The story is beautiful and sad, but there is very little Black Mirror here. The story is about two fools who couldn't communicate with words and ruined their lives. And technology is the tenth background here, and even then it is harmless and does not negatively affect the lives of the characters in any way. Personally, I'm not watching it for the sake of the juicer. In this regard, it's the weakest episode of the season so far, and I hope Callister doesn't disappoint even more.
@Nonelementary: it is not a fact that if they had met, then, years later, they would not have divorced, many romantic stories ended in divorce, where they did not see each other for years, were separated by captivity, etc.
@Nonelementary: And yet: when you have a really fateful decision ahead of you, and you really care, do you really limit yourself to a note on the bedside table that might not be noticed?! You're going to die, you're going to fight to the last, until you're sure that you've been heard, that you've really done everything possible and impossible to stay together. It is clear that this whole story with the note is for the plot and drama, but still the vitality of the moment was not enough, as for me.
All this could have been done without any nano-chips. My daughter could have come and said: grandfather, tell me about your mother. I could even see the note on the floor. Technology is just for show, alas.
The episode turned out to be unexpectedly quiet and poignant. Without the usual dark satire, but with a very lively theme — about regrets and unrealized opportunities. Technology is just a background here, and the main focus is on feelings. It wasn't the brightest episode of the season, but it touched. There was a slight sadness and a desire to rethink something about myself.
@Raf8678: If you're a dollmaker, you'll probably see a part of yourself. It was obvious to a normal person from the very beginning that the woman was in trouble when they showed that she was engaged to sleep with other men.
@da45nbd: you talk so much and persistently about dolls here, almost in every comment, it seems to be a sore subject) It's a pity that the series upset you)
The beginning of the episode didn't seem particularly outstanding, but the second half of the episode is good. It's so terrible that because of some stupid grudge, people have lost the opportunity to be together. One considered himself right, the other himself, as a result, such a small thing as a note just turned out to be unnoticed, and in fact it could radically change their lives. At such moments, it becomes infinitely insulting that you acted the way you did, and not otherwise. Well, the opportunity to return to photography is also very cool. In general, you start to think about taking more pictures of your life, making some videos, because today it's there, you remember it, and tomorrow the same moment won't happen, in years you'll forget it altogether, and maybe it was at that moment that you felt good, you were even happy.
One wrong act in life or an unreadable letter from a loved one and the whole life is derailed , depression, alcohol . It is not the fate of two people to live happily , but the saddest thing is that two have suffered all their lives
Did the series end up with some kind of sympathy as strangely as possible? Unfortunately, although I was happy for the first half: "Oh, the trope of an unreliable storyteller, cool.";
The main character of this series is a classic manipulative narcissist with abusive habits, written just like in a psychology textbook. There are a lot of examples for the series: she was a cheater at a Halloween party because a man was hitting on her (although she obviously didn't like it), unhealthy jealousy and partner's suspicions of everything and everything are the brightest red flag; but at the same time, real betrayal happens for the first time with him, but don't confuse anything, his betrayal is this is a stupid mistake, and don't blame me at all, but when talking about the restaurant and the subsequent breakup, his first thought is about cheating again; the story about the failed proposal is just a narcissistic classic, which my daughter very correctly noticed - I blushed with shame, I felt bad, I hit the table with my fist (hello abusive habits); attempts to pour alcohol into a person by force (I came to you as a whole, how can you not drink?); and the little things - the fact that she did not play her favorite instrument in the band because of him; with what disdain he spoke about this chance, which she had because she was leaving HE's the only one who dares to follow his dream
A room destroyed in a fit of anger, as well as hitting the table with a fist after a proposal, make it clear that most likely the matter would not have been limited to broken furniture (it always starts small), and he would have 99% ordered her to get rid of the child. Plus, alcohol problems, which would also most likely come out over time, and he would never forgive her for cheating, he would always reproach her with this and justify his violence with this. Then there would be her complete and final separation from friends and family, locking her in these relationships, abuse, and so on according to the classics.
So the girl just dodged a bullet, there's no other way to say it, and gg caused me 0.0 sympathy, the whole series had an absolutely disgusting feeling inside from his attempts to whitewash himself and prove to everyone around that she was the bad one. And yes, this is really a story about a failed life, or rather about a failed nightmare from which she managed to escape. Gg deserves his loneliness, sorry, sorry, I can't see this series with other eyes.
What a deep episode, the best of the season for me. Insulting is not the right word to describe the disappointment of realizing what his life could have been like...💔
It's an incredibly touching episode. I remembered family photos of several generations of the family and relatives who stayed at home during the occupation, because of the war I couldn't pick them up on time, and my parents didn't take them away. That's how memories are lost, without memory and photos, the outlines of faces will fade with age. It became very sad😞💔 But fortunately, there are also digital photos that you carry with you on your phone / computer. And then after us, any photos will lose all meaning and value. The main character messed up repeatedly, and paid for it with happiness. That's how people become lonely for the rest of their lives, a sad trend.
@evryka: It's a joke of the exact voiceover you're watching, they're doing the ads in such a perverse way. I once watched a series in this voiceover, I couldn't stand it for more than a couple of episodes, a lot of phrases are eaten up by advertising.
I'm sorry for the French, but it's a*b I probably would have shed a tear earlier. But now I'm just really sorry for such people. For their fates. The ability to control your emotions and not project your guesses about other people's actions and words is a very useful skill. Sometimes it's hard to say to yourself, "I do not know," for fear of continuing to live in ignorance (although who forbids you to figure it out?), but in my opinion it's better than creating an image in your head and living, being sure that it is correct. Because sometimes something similar to what is shown in the series can happen and your whole life can crumble overnight. It depends on the events and the constructed image, of course, but still.
@AndPeach: I'll give you a plus for this, just to quote: "The ability to control your emotions and not project your guesses about other people's actions and words is a very useful skill.";
In a way, the meaning of this series is incredibly simple and has been chewed over a bunch of times, but the pitch is great. At the end, there was a lump in my throat and I wanted to cry.
I've been thinking about this series a lot, I come back to it often, and yesterday I reviewed my big children's album and remembered a lot of relatives and old friends.
In general, for me, this is the most catchy episode of the season so far (I haven't watched the last episode yet)
I really liked this story. At first, I was angry with him. Gradually, this story opened up to me more clearly. He felt insulted by a man all these years... except he just didn't notice the note. But everything could have turned out differently.. how sad that he realized everything only at such a moment. And it's strange that he didn't realize she was pregnant.. rounded up, didn't drink alcohol… A sad story
@Panda___: he was so passionate about the idea of his proposal (that it would immediately fix everything and cover his jamb) that he seemed to forget to pay attention to the one to whom he was going to make this offer)) And then I got so angry that after a while I didn't think about the reasons for abstaining from alcohol. I took it personally.
Of course, Brooker has done well this season, he's just a genius. Another episode, after which the fandom will be divided into two parts, where some will say, "Well, what kind of boring stuff are we supposed to empathize with these idiots who suffered because of their own stupidity?" and the others "ooooh, how touching, well, it's literally me "... And it will start with you.
And this is the second such episode of the season after Bete noire. Damn genius.
I didn't touch on the episode, because I don't think memories and the past are something I would like to have in an ultra — realistic way. Maybe someone is interested in digging into this, changing their thoughts about something, then. But I think that memory and photos are quite enough, you should trust your own imagination. Because even lousy memories have a right to exist. In the episode, it was this technology that allowed GG to calm his brain, because after the mistakes of his youth, he remained depressed until old age. What this episode teaches is not to take it personally. The world is changeable, and you can't prepare a separate cell in your head for every stress.
The most stuffy and uninteresting episode from this season, and how many rave reviews about it, and the people who wrote negative reviews were silenced as usual, I didn't find any response at all, even though the series was similar to life is strange at some points. Not really, in general, I'm waiting for the cons.
It's a great episode, definitely the best of the season. very much in the spirit of the black mirror. really interesting technology. The story is very sad.
How much we missed, lost, and then regretted simply because of our pride or resentment. The episode is very touching. I really like how the main character changes. He forgives her and himself, accepts her, and comes to say goodbye to the love of his life.
Crossing out, cutting out the face, but at the same time saving these photos is a terribly infantile act that is difficult for me to understand.
Explain to the lawyer why he remembers her face, if the family (the customer of this whole story) Are there probably thousands of photos of her, including a corpse? Show him a picture from your collection, and he'll remember everything right away, won't he?
@g14c5: there's an answer right at the beginning) - Do you have a photo? - I am not allowed to provide such materials, they will distort memories. And here accuracy is extremely important.
Discussion of the 5 episode of the 7 season Discuss this episode
227A whole life that didn't happen because of nonsense and a note. At the beginning of the episode, anger was still lingering through gg's words, but at the end it was impossible not to come to terms with💛
and a slight nod that everything was exactly like that, not otherwise.
It reminds us once again that in the most emotional moments, we can only see everything from our bell tower. And we always think that only our "truth" exists. Although this is far from the case.…
I was pleasantly surprised by the appearance of Paul Giamatti 😍 How fast the years fly by, my Big Fat Liar ♥️
It's a very cool series, it's just here. I wish I could look at the photo like that and immediately return to those moments.…
It's funny that when they showed what was happening inside the photo, the faces of the people there were also blurred, an unusual and very interesting idea.
And the locations are well designed, it really reminded me of Life is Strange. Such an original series turned out, my soul rejoices.
The series is really cool, but the plot turned out to be unexpectedly sad. I was even surprised by this turn at the end (I won't spoil it, in case someone reads the comments without watching the episode). But I will say one thing, this episode pleasantly surprised me.
I also caught myself thinking that it is very similar to Life is strange) The realization of fire!
Plus, it's been 20 years.
If you multiply all this, at least the facial features will be erased, so it's quite
And he deliberately erased the faces from his memory.
He didn't even remember the name right away. The psyche works wonders when it is necessary to forget "bad" / "sick"
So it's natural and it's not fiction. The memory is being erased
For example, I can often describe to friends what clothes they were wearing on a certain day when we went there, or imagine in detail the faces of long-dead relatives or even my classmates in the kindergarten. But memorizing numbers is tough for me) there are always big problems with people's birthdays, PIN codes, or historical events.
Plus, we often remember our feelings about something more than the object itself. And there it was necessary to remember the face clearly
Even the first kiss in my life is very blurry to remember
That's why I can understand him like no one else.😂
And I completely forgot the faces of some classmates, as well as their existence))) therefore, the brain can easily erase something unnecessary over time.
A drama, an interesting plot that gradually unfolds.
Technologies that even look plausible!
The story itself is about ordinary people, about love.
The end is very touching and sad.
The plot is simple, so everyone can put themselves in the place of the hero or his girlfriend.
The combination of how it was shot, technology and plot with an interesting drama
On 10 out of 10
I'm watching the episodes in order.
It is unlikely that the latter will surpass this one.
I'll say this poem is the best of the season.
In second place is the series about Verity.
On the third with Capaldi
And on the last one, where in the old movie they just replaced a man with a woman.
where a woman gets a synthetic part of her brain implanted with subscriptions after the tumor is removed
A piece of life. Mistakes, quarrels, scandals, habits, self-torture, aggression, swearing, losses and loneliness. But so is love, separation, caring, beauty, support, and forgiveness. It's all in a piece of life.
It's struck. Punched and chewed. It's a simple story, but it's touching and heartfelt. It's something therapeutic, something too sincere to evaluate objectively or put into words. I wish this technology existed in reality. For the first time in the entire series.
What do we leave behind as pure as our memories?
I'm glad that CHZ is developing their universe slowly, in general, the series does not slip over the years, this season is many times better than the previous two (the creators more than redeemed those beloved werewolves), we see everything again that we loved this series for! I want more and more often
It's just another example of how important it is to talk, solve issues directly, and make informed points, rather than going off alone to suffer, inventing something for yourself, and not knowing the truth.
Yes, it's pride, the fear of telling and discussing your mistakes, the fear of being abandoned.
Although without a note, trying to contact her again and understand why she doesn't want to get married would be an adequate reaction, after all, we've been together for 3 years. But it seems he was a very impulsive person.
How could you just leave after several years of a relationship without talking properly, without trying to clarify the situation?
It's just that it turned out to be stupid, everyone was offended, everyone thought of something for themselves. After a while, it was possible to get off and try to contact. At least through friends. Had she cut off all contact so completely that she hadn't even reached him through her friends?
The hero said that his life was ruined when she left and he had ALREADY lived his life badly.
Without her and without the baby.
If he had found out about the baby, maybe everything would have been better, or at least he could have made the decision to leave on his own.
Music combined with photos really enhance the effect several times and allow you to live and feel these moments again.
It just resonated with me.
That's how much I hate looking at my old photos, how my memory hurts, and I also felt bad about this series (((
and exactly when there is nothing to return and nothing to talk about... That's the worst part.
Once again, I would like to remind myself that it is very important for everyone in all respects to be able to talk with words through their mouths about everything.
The drama is getting worse by the minute. At one point, my wife and I even apologized to each other because, coincidentally, we had a fight about a small thing at the beginning of the viewing. I think everyone has been in Philip's or Carol's shoes.
A good series with a pleasant bitter aftertaste
Then there were confessions of jealousy, quarrels, infidelity - and you think: they wanted to show that he was a narcissist, an egotist, a man with a sick heart - you can only run from that. But then, it turns out, she wasn't going to leave him, which means he wasn't so bad after a couple of shameful (and alcoholic) episodes.
And whether he would have married or left, adopted someone else's child, or then reproached for cheating all his life, we still don't know. And he has not repented of his betrayal.
As a result, there was not the most pleasant feeling from the main character, but at the same time irritation that there was not enough information to draw conclusions about him, although the series was about him, not about her.
You live like this, you don't touch anyone, and then life is like this after 30-40 (?) years:
Some spammers call and a courier arrives with an AI avatar who judges you, criticizes you for your former youth and makes you emotional and grieve)))
At some point, I was worried that GG would move away from sudden emotions from the past.
34 years old .. but I can't hold back my tears .
Very soulful …
Giamatti of course actors!
There is so much pain and simultaneous warmth in these memories.
Good acting, and in the end it all came together into a whole touching episode that makes you sit down and think after watching it.
I do not believe.
And it's not about the range of emotional toothpicking.
What kind of relationship is it that you get offended by someone for 30 years and don't look for an opportunity to talk with such modern technology?
She left a note for the drunk man and hoped that he would notice her.
Both of them were not very smart, but they can be attributed to youth/ fervor.
But didn't they have any mutual friends who could somehow keep up to date, having information from both sides and explain the situation? Didn't they have anyone in common?
She was aware that he had cheated on her when her friend answered the phone. He thought she left because of that, that she couldn't forgive him.
Yes, it happens that people foolishly or foolishly break up.
I understand when such a misunderstanding can occur at the beginning of a novel, when there is no connection between people. But judging by the fact that gg continued to hold on to anger and resentment for so many years (while apparently forgetting that he had originally screwed up himself), it seems that pride was stronger than love.
Well, they've been living together for so long, shouldn't she have at least picked up some things or something? Did she just stay in England with what she came with for a while?
To be honest, it's not surprising that he didn't remember her face right away, people often remember emotions, situations and general facial features, but it's difficult to clearly remember what a person looks like after 10-15 years.
The story itself cuts to the depths of the soul and in the end it is simply impossible to remain indifferent. This season, I noticed, there's a lot of emphasis on feelings, not just technology. Everything is so harmonious and cool. Definitely one of the best seasons.
In general, there is a lot of romance in this season - 3 out of 5 episodes. And the only motive is to stay together no matter what. The black mirror has softened at the edges) I like it in principle. There is no such challenge as with a pig, but it is still technology, although not always frightening and supernatural, but mundane, often dooming to mental pain and suffering, forcing you to experience losses over and over again. There have been such episodes before, but this season they seem to have a separate focus.
Chuck-Chuck is gorgeous! How technologies are transferred to respect the director. The plot is quite real and very dramatic. It even brought tears to my eyes because of my own associations.
When the girl was shown, I immediately thought that either it was her (he just doesn't remember her), but then when it turned out that they had been dating for a long time and he would definitely have recognized her, then he realized that this was their child (well, he was slightly mistaken).
P.S.: The series is extremely contraindicated for fans of reminiscence and self-reflection (to me)
and then: sometimes, as an exception (actually not), technology can be a friend, not an enemy, because if technology is a mirror of our nature, then we are not black and white by nature, we are a spectrum, and this monochrome pendulum is constantly swinging, from our one one error is more painful than the other.
I am very happy to end the season on such a note (I am watching this episode last). It's a beautiful story. the beautiful Paul Giamatti.
PS. if I were translating this series, I would translate the title of this episode as "Farewell". perhaps someone will do so, I don't pretend to be original, it just seems to me that this name would suit this story at all its levels.
old Charlie Brooker would not have put any morality and redemption in the ending, he would just have harshly shown that there can be no redemption, and technology will only increase the consequences of selfish (infantile, stupid and any other) decisions of the heroes.
then that would be cool if it showed as she laughs for cello
and when this actually happened, I experienced a range of emotions
this season as a whole reminded me of why I used to love black mirror so much 💔
The last time they saw each other was when he proposed to her, and she left in silence. It hurts self-esteem. She, for her part, was refused to accept her with the child (as it turned out). This is also unpleasant. That's why she didn't seek an appointment either.
It's a good episode.
The story is heartbreaking, of course, and the three-dimensional graphics inside the photos are quite good, but the series itself is boring. Although it's better than the previous one with a psycho drug addict.
Or maybe you need to watch it, for example, before the Dream Hotel, in order to get inside the photos first, and only then into the movie.
But I'm already used to watching the episodes in order, so I'm sorry)
How people get lost in life... It's just like in Before Dawn by Linklater
But thanks to this technology, alas, not during her lifetime, he was able to understand that she loved him, and she gave him the light that would be with him for the rest of his life.
And how many such people still walk around the world, with a lost meaning of life...
His life was broken again.
The first time was when she left and he didn't see the letter. He started drinking, etc.
, and the second time was when she was already dead. And he found out that she was waiting for him. But now he can't even talk to her. She's dead.…
And so it was clear at first that he was to blame.;
Paul Giamatti's performance was excellent
very hooked💔
Don't part with your loved ones
Don't part with your loved ones
Grow into them with all your blood
And every time, say goodbye forever.
And every time, say goodbye forever.
And every time, say goodbye forever.
When you leave for a moment...
this is probably the technology that I would like to try out now - to enter into the picture and try to remember those moments that were captured in the photo.
(the only negative is their relationship, which, I think, could have ended with them breaking up anyway... cheating, long-distance love are already the first bells, but I would really like to believe in the future that he would read the letter and understand her)
And technology is the tenth background here, and even then it is harmless and does not negatively affect the lives of the characters in any way.
Personally, I'm not watching it for the sake of the juicer. In this regard, it's the weakest episode of the season so far, and I hope Callister doesn't disappoint even more.
Apparently, it's different for everyone) All episodes are absolutely different, but at least one hits the target.
It's a pity that the series upset you)
just nice, top 10 NTR out of 10!
The main character of this series is a classic manipulative narcissist with abusive habits, written just like in a psychology textbook. There are a lot of examples for the series: she was a cheater at a Halloween party because a man was hitting on her (although she obviously didn't like it), unhealthy jealousy and partner's suspicions of everything and everything are the brightest red flag; but at the same time, real betrayal happens for the first time with him, but don't confuse anything, his betrayal is this is a stupid mistake, and don't blame me at all, but when talking about the restaurant and the subsequent breakup, his first thought is about cheating again; the story about the failed proposal is just a narcissistic classic, which my daughter very correctly noticed - I blushed with shame, I felt bad, I hit the table with my fist (hello abusive habits); attempts to pour alcohol into a person by force (I came to you as a whole, how can you not drink?); and the little things - the fact that she did not play her favorite instrument in the band because of him; with what disdain he spoke about this chance, which she had because she was leaving HE's the only one who dares to follow his dream
A room destroyed in a fit of anger, as well as hitting the table with a fist after a proposal, make it clear that most likely the matter would not have been limited to broken furniture (it always starts small), and he would have 99% ordered her to get rid of the child. Plus, alcohol problems, which would also most likely come out over time, and he would never forgive her for cheating, he would always reproach her with this and justify his violence with this. Then there would be her complete and final separation from friends and family, locking her in these relationships, abuse, and so on according to the classics.
So the girl just dodged a bullet, there's no other way to say it, and gg caused me 0.0 sympathy, the whole series had an absolutely disgusting feeling inside from his attempts to whitewash himself and prove to everyone around that she was the bad one. And yes, this is really a story about a failed life, or rather about a failed nightmare from which she managed to escape. Gg deserves his loneliness, sorry, sorry, I can't see this series with other eyes.
The main character messed up repeatedly, and paid for it with happiness. That's how people become lonely for the rest of their lives, a sad trend.
I probably would have shed a tear earlier. But now I'm just really sorry for such people. For their fates.
The ability to control your emotions and not project your guesses about other people's actions and words is a very useful skill.
Sometimes it's hard to say to yourself, "I do not know," for fear of continuing to live in ignorance (although who forbids you to figure it out?), but in my opinion it's better than creating an image in your head and living, being sure that it is correct. Because sometimes something similar to what is shown in the series can happen and your whole life can crumble overnight. It depends on the events and the constructed image, of course, but still.
I've been thinking about this series a lot, I come back to it often, and yesterday I reviewed my big children's album and remembered a lot of relatives and old friends.
In general, for me, this is the most catchy episode of the season so far (I haven't watched the last episode yet)
At first, I was angry with him.
Gradually, this story opened up to me more clearly.
He felt insulted by a man all these years... except he just didn't notice the note. But everything could have turned out differently..
how sad that he realized everything only at such a moment.
And it's strange that he didn't realize she was pregnant.. rounded up, didn't drink alcohol…
A sad story
And then I got so angry that after a while I didn't think about the reasons for abstaining from alcohol. I took it personally.
Another episode, after which the fandom will be divided into two parts, where some will say, "Well, what kind of boring stuff are we supposed to empathize with these idiots who suffered because of their own stupidity?" and the others "ooooh, how touching, well, it's literally me "...
And it will start with you.
And this is the second such episode of the season after Bete noire. Damn genius.
Crossing out, cutting out the face, but at the same time saving these photos is a terribly infantile act that is difficult for me to understand.
- Do you have a photo?
- I am not allowed to provide such materials, they will distort memories. And here accuracy is extremely important.