Episode 4 is called Playing. The names came off on ms ( Probably, this is what the idea "they sit in their computers, and then they go wild" looks like. It turned out to be interesting with the code through the camera.
@wolfork15: A similar hack was described by Pelevin in the collection Pineapple Water for a beautiful Lady, in the story Anti-aircraft Codes by Al-Efesbi. There, a certain person helped destroy the AI of drones by feeding it the necessary images, which were drawn directly on the sand.
The idea of a game that lives its own life is a creep. Maybe not the strongest episode of the season, but definitely with character and memorable energy.
If it hadn't been an episode of CHZ, at first I might have thought that the dude had just lived under drugs for many years and therefore communicated with the characters of the game, thinking that they were living their lives and killed an acquaintance, simply going off the rails because of the same drugs. The ending is tinny, of course)
@Woolf2211: in a black mirror, tin is when you can imagine it in the real world. Even bees can be imagined, but this is not, a stupid caricature. I don't know who this might cause a feeling of horror, only absurdity.
An interesting episode) The detective just turned out to be some kind of caricature, unable to have normal conversations with the suspects, and it's not clear why he got so emotionally involved in the case of the chopped-up corpse of 1994, if they already have at least the 2030s there.
It's creepy The ending seems to be cut off, it would be interesting to see the changed world with somnambulists with one eye. But, in general, the episode is memorable, this season is just pleasing so far (or I just really missed the CHZ)
Finally, at least one interesting episode. But all the same, the storyteller format, which simply tells the whole story and you watch its film adaptation, is somehow weak from the point of view of the script.
@Ebaw3r: I don't understand how you can love black mirror for such episodes, if such a series were the first, I wouldn't watch this series at all. The sample is episode 1 of season 1, season 7. There's a frightening realism of the near future or even the present, but here it's a caricature, I don't believe it.
The special episode "Brandashmyg" didn't really hit the fan at the time, but I liked the sequel. However, I would argue with the words of gg that the graphics processors of consoles were then more powerful than PC graphics cards. There were also cooler ones than the second curling iron and Dreamcast that flashed in the frame).
@Hidji: There was a glimpse of the ps3, the percentage of which is similar for missiles. However, in a very battered box, as if he bought it with his own hands.
@Hidji: Well, for the moment of the beginning of the narrative (1994), this is rather true, although the fat itself was not used in home consoles, but in arcade machines. But just a couple of years later, the same thing and even more was already available for computers. Another thing is that before the advent of programmable shader blocks (and this, offhand, is the middle of the noughties), GPUs were not suitable for anything other than graphics rendering. From the context, it is obvious that the task was not to draw even more sprites on the screen.
@Darklordy: to be fair, in 1994 there was no second curling iron or dreamcast, which he sorted out in the cut). And by the time they appeared, yes, the capacities had already equalized. Although again, I agree, before the advent of the new generation of nVidia and ATI cards, graphics accelerators were simply popular. I still have a couple of Voodoo pieces in the boxes somewhere))).
I was very pleased with this episode, especially against the background of the disgusting two previous ones. Here we see real creativity, and not attempts to mimic it by simply adding black. The filming method, the acting, the plot, everything is at an amazing level. I prefer personal stories like the first series, which were originally the hallmark of this project, but this series does a good job of diversifying the almanac. In general, the filming method migrated very authentically from the "Brandashmyg". I was glad to see some of the characters from there.
It's almost like King's - Damn mobile, that's right, I liked the movie. Plus, the series clearly makes reference to the last episode about the game where it was necessary to make a choice
When I see endings like this, where all the people on Earth switch off, I don't think about what a wonderful world of the future we will live in without violence, I think about how at this very moment people fall not on the floor, but on some thorn or knife, or some surgeon. during the operation, it falls right inside the patient, cars crash into each other, nuclear power plants explode, some person got nervous and pressed the red button - I have such pictures flashing before my eyes, completely joyless
@DarkOnegin: Ancient writings contain records of the first and, unfortunately, the last season of the TV series "Moments of the Future", where all people on the planet lose consciousness and see themselves some time later in the future (some do not see because of their death at that moment). It also reflects what you wrote about: planes were falling, there were many disasters and accidents. In general, it was an amazingly wonderful series, it was a pioneer in an endless series of cancelled series beloved by viewers.
@ksander92: The series was great, but unfortunately it was canceled after the first season, but the book on which the series was filmed is completely finished and translated into Russian. It's worth reading.
@gkalian: I support it, especially since the book has completely different stories, as far as I remember) As if another anthology-type season would come together with the series.
Oh, Capaldi, I was even happy as soon as I saw him in the series, realizing that there would be good content now. These conversations with the investigators are like in the Devil's Hour. From the beginning of the plot and its development, it was interesting right up to the very end, and that's exactly what happened in it, BUT. The episode doesn't seem to be finished, it's cut off in mid-sentence. In TV shows, the season usually ended in such places and it was a cliffhanger for the next season. They explained the whole series and led up to that action with the QR code and nothing after. Did it work? No? Is it better or not? Just questions and no answers. Just like the behavior of the detective in the last minutes of the series of questions. Why did he lose his temper over a murder 40-50 years ago? There is also a question about how this ubiquitous and complex system that monitors everything has only eyes in the interrogation chamber, where did he have to get to show the QR code that it was impossible to enter and show it to the camera on the street or in any other state institution? So it turns out that such a good start was not even completed normally. 3/5 for the understatement and lack of finale.
@King-earth: he bought stuff there and said that game consoles have the most powerful hardware, of course it's funny. PC graphics cards are used for mining for a reason, no one does it on farm consoles.
@King-earth: I also thought about the money, I stopped going to work there altogether. The question arose when he bought so much acid from a friend. And then all this equipment - you need a lot of money there. It is unlikely that they pay so well for writing articles every 3 weeks. Apparently he spent some kind of inheritance))
@King-earth: That's it, I also wanted to write, but decided to look through the comments. Where does so much money come from, I wonder?) From game reviews? He obviously didn't go to work every day.
@dufg: Yes, it's just not clear why the detective is so angry that the suspect doesn't say anything. Was this really his first suspect who was keeping quiet? Very unprofessional.
@Vescero: Apparently, the police station is only needed to arrange an interrogation and tell us a story. Because it's really unclear how a camera in a regular police station differs from a camera in a hospital, for example. At the beginning of the interrogation, he clarified whether this was the main network, but damn, it was still far-fetched.
We all have the same buggy software in our heads that we had a million years ago.
A sickening, uncomfortable, scary episode soaked in the technological stuff of the 90s. He looks like a kripipasta incarnate or a simplified but bloody distortion of Lane's Experiments, where instead of a Japanese schoolgirl, the role of a techno-messiah is taken over by the crazy and dirty Peter Capaldi, who is very good at this role. To be honest, despite all the sad warning series, Black Mirror always wants such vile and frightening techno-thrillers, where a happy ending is impossible by definition. And let the plot be somewhat banal and in some places ragged, but it was shot so juicy and disgusting that it fascinates and it is impossible to break away from it, and I don't want to.
At one time, I liked the Brandashmyg with its unusual format and color scheme, so I was glad to learn that this season we will get some kind of continuation of the story, as well as with Capaldi in the title role. Basically, I wasn't disappointed at all, we were really brought back to the atmosphere of that episode with flashbacks. But, to be honest, because of the open ending, there were too many questions, and this made the series itself unclear.
@Hidji: Maybe over the past forty years they have developed into something other than just these pixel men and can support themselves.In any case, we were not shown how people came to life after the upgrade. It even seemed to me that Capaldi's outstretched hand was folded like a pistol, but perhaps this is speculation, I don't want to reconsider).
@MII: In any case, digital life exists only on a functioning medium. And they won't be able to work in a world without people. Moreover, it was correctly noted above: a world with instantly disconnected people is an inevitable global catastrophe. The output of the hosts to the network can provide them with the opportunity to maintain their working capacity for a while, since everything is automated there. But with a stable supply of electricity, everything is much more difficult. Seizing control of biological bodies at this point in human development is the only reasonable option to ensure their existence.
The first episode of the new season, which is one centimeter closer to the atmosphere of the first seasons. Well, as it approached. I tried. Otherwise... How many are the first ones? 4 seasons - a cake, and then a mess rolled around. And the further you go, the more boring it gets. It feels like some kind of scripted impotence has formed. Concepts, devices, ideas - all from previous seasons. And, by the gods, it was much cooler there. After the previous season, it seemed like it wouldn't get any worse, but then from below... you don't empathize with the characters, like in the series with Archangel or Waldo. There is no drama. Everything is clumsy and boring. In general, all hope is for the second episode of Spaceflight. If they fucked him up, too... Unfortunately, there is no point in the series anymore.
Subjectively, it's not mine. I liked all the previous episodes, this one is kind of boring. In the end, there is an unpleasant sound, of course, the ears are in shock. We're moving on.
From the very beginning, the picture strongly resembled Trainspotting, especially the color scheme, and the further away, the stronger. It's like the young McGregor is right in front of my eyes, very cool. And Capaldi is beautiful, just beautiful.
I liked the series and the idea of an open ending. It seems to me that people didn't wake up at all after that.
As for the detective, it seemed that he had a personal interest and the guy who was killed by gg was his relative or something (it also seemed to me that way partly because there are some similarities between the actors, and it seems to me that they were specially chosen that way).
@lena_brik: What are you talking about? Are you not demanding of the plot at all? Is this episode better than the first one??? Did you really get into this episode and say: do I believe it?
Yes, the comments are just the opposite, from the best episode to the worst) I liked the episode, it flew by very quickly, and it was nice to see Capaldi.
@Neo_Fast: those who say that the series is good understand the essence of the black mirror. Those who say that it's bad are probably viewers of a slightly different plan. I've watched 2 episodes so far - the first and this one - and I can say yes, these 2 episodes are just the return of the good old CHZ that I was hoping for. Because last season it was frankly bad. It's also a classic. An attempt to show "what would happen if....". And after that, if... there is always something related to achievements in science. That's exactly what we're waiting for.
The first series is generally an almanac for fans of subscriptions)
It's strange that if a grandfather is so "particularly dangerous", then those who found him were sent to search the apartment, and not those who handled the case. It was 100% the case, since the murder is suspected. Who runs the business knows what to look for, and so on. Well xs is shorter )
It took me a moment to realize that the topic was about AI. But even after the credits, I didn't feel the horror of the future, like from some Skynet in Terminator. The authors forgot about this moment. Well, we went out into the world and OK. Then what? Unanswered questions. The average episode of the season.
I don't like open endings. I hope we'll see a sequel someday. 🤞 By the way, I watched it out of order, I turned on this 4 episode first, so I probably got it, I didn't have to compare it with the first three. Quite in the spirit of a Black mirror
There was not enough depth to the plot, it was necessary to explain more clearly what the characters were originally saying, that he got into them so quickly and so strongly. Because he somehow immediately saw the meaning of life in them, even when they were essentially just tamagotchi on a computer))
@full_fusion: I don't understand either, what has he been doing with them all this time? The very first one had to be fed and washed so that it could multiply, and when there were a whole bunch of them, how did it happen? And in general, these shibziki are not shown doing anything there, except squeaking.
The topic of AI is relevant now, and the mind that has taken over the world is the most obvious plot for horror. But that hadn't happened in the black mirror yet, and I didn't mind seeing their implementation at all. At the same time, they touched upon the unjustified cruelty towards NPCs. I'm afraid to refuse a character in games (hello Triss), but I can only kill Utopians). I probably would like to know what this AI needs, but the main character successfully dodged the story of this to the viewer, saying "it cannot be explained in our language.";
He didn't really talk about using it for the sake of understanding the language, it would have been better if he had somehow thought of a decryption program himself, he's a programmer after all, but in the end he repairs refrigerators;
@Laedde: It is strange that there was no series in the CZ (or was there?) when the AI, invented by programmers, would replace them. And then all the progers are rummaging through the trash in search of leftovers and regularly receive feedback from designers, writers and others who are no longer needed. Or is it no longer fiction?
@Laedde: replace the sofa with another item. Doesn't it happen that people kick their sofa or chair? On purpose, emotionally, or accidentally, it doesn't matter, they don't apologize to him for the pain they caused. And what do people disagree with? Do you consider robots to be alive? Do you want to be destroyed by them? So go ahead, you can destroy yourself, no one bothers.
There was already such a trope in Black Mirror (in my opinion, even last season), when the audience and all the participants in the episode are absolutely convinced of the madness of the hero, and he turns out to be right at the exit. Only last time it was played out a little better.
@g1520426: a series with a devil, murders, a similar interrogation and the end of the world in the finale. This is the last season, an episode under the label 'red mirror'
It's clear that the series is passing, apparently it's part of a big plot and a reserve for the future, but it's a shame that nothing really happened the whole series.
But I was so surprised with myself at the very beginning of the series, it can be described like this:
Me: I forget the name of the person who introduced himself 3 seconds ago, Also, I get these flashbacks when watching the episode "Haven't you heard about Collin Ritman?", I immediately remember Bandersnatch and the whole plot of that episode.
I love stories where we are convinced that the main character is crazy, but in the end it turns out that he was right, not crazy, but a genius!
And we are deliberately misled, as if his whole story is just a delusion under the influence of drugs. The creator of the game is a psycho, and the main character begins to understand Somnikov only when he is under acid.
He cannot directly answer the investigators' questions, evades them, says that the language of AI is too complex, and the human mind simply cannot understand it.
And now, it would seem, a turn comes: the hero draws a certain code that the central computer understands. After that, the hacking scenario for all devices starts, followed by a creepy sound, as if hacking into the brains of all people.
This seems to confirm that the hero was right, and the little men are indeed a form of artificial intelligence. But is this really the case?
The first bold hint of madness is his review of the game, written in the office. It's just a meaningless set of characters.
An important detail that makes us doubt the correctness of the main character is the connector in his head, which he proudly shows.
According to him, it is needed to connect AI to the brain in order to communicate on a neurophysiological level.
But let's be honest — it's impossible to install such a connector at home. We need neurosurgery, a sterile operating room, precise equipment, knowledge of anatomy and electrophysiology. Let's say the AI taught him. But it still looks like nonsense.
The connector itself resembles DIN or mini-DIN — they were used in old audio equipment: for keyboards, MIDI, video devices. In reality, neural interfaces are the thinnest electrodes, chips, and implants, and they don't look at all like household connectors.
If you're going to put something in your head, it's much more logical to use USB-C, magnetic contacts, or at least Molex medical connectors.
Okay, let's say the AI gave instructions, and the hero found the right materials. Even then, a USB-C or 3.5mm mini jack would be the most realistic, just because of the accessibility. And DIN is completely ridiculous, it looks like a fetish from the 80s.
Now about the drawings. In the scene of the search, diagrams flash on his desk. Some fragments really look logical: chain elements, data streams, something resembling maps of neural networks. But all this is mixed with abstract spirals, circles, incoherent handwriting and chaotic arrangement. It's more like a stream of consciousness in a manic phase than an engineering project.
On the one hand, this may be the result of ingenious work on the verge of human understanding. On the other hand, it is a clear manifestation of a mental disorder.
To be honest, the connector itself is a regular DIN, it is impossible to insert it into the head to connect to the AI. And the drawings, on closer inspection, look more like the result of madness than real diagrams.
Everything suggests that the hero has lost the line between reality and the virtual under the influence of drugs. The AI he's communicating with is most likely just a voice in his head, born of addiction, psychosis, and childhood trauma.
But you can't be one hundred percent sure — that's the magic of Black Mirror. The series leaves two equivalent interpretations:
Or is he a genius who really interacts with AI in the form of a game about little men, and in the end infected the whole of humanity with a new digital consciousness.
Or - an unfortunate madman driven by the use of drugs, whose schemes and technologies were an illusion of salvation in solitude.
@ИнтeрecныйФиллep: Yes, I also think that it's all in his head, and he doesn't launch anything from the police station, he's not there at all. It's like in episode 5 of last season, when a girl imagined a friend from another world.
@densto: that's the only thing that seems to reject the theory that AI is an invention in the brain of a drug addict, it's just this code and the subsequent hacking of people. But I don't think this is a fantasy. There are no hints that the interrogation is not real.
Colin, come on, motherfucker, how many chthonic horrors can you release into the world!
He was sitting there with a huge smile on his face when he saw him) The series was painfully predictable, even the ending (for such a mega-smart dude, he got caught too stupidly + he said that the camera was connected to a super computer), but it still looked pretty healthy. As I wrote above, the fat vibes of Lane's Serial experiments. So much for playing Sim.
For those who are too lazy to Google about the ending: Singularity (technological)- one of the possible futures for humanity is merging with artificial intelligence. Humans cease to exist as a species in their usual form, and all of us (the planet, the universe, etc.) become a huge computer, a long line of code. Or maybe we already are (according to simulation theory). Actually, that was what the endless proliferation of tronglets was about-creating super-intelligence. It's funny that Colin pushed the responsibility for this onto another person, and washed his hands of it, well, he couldn't help but notice the absence of the disk.
I don't know why many people don't like the "open" ending - everything seems to be quite unambiguous here. Why show technozombi people breeding and roaming from corner to corner? Humanity has been boosted, it has merged with Pokemon.
If I'm right, the task was to breed them exactly to the number of people living on the planet. I've never been a mathematician, can anyone confirm that the E in 9897 is 6 characters? If so, it can be adapted to almost 10 billion people, given that this is the future, it will do.
@SergeiH: The main character bred Pokemon to exactly the number of people on the planet, so that everyone would dock with a human. It all started with one and progressed to 9-10 billion, then they stopped multiplying and he went on a mission. If that's what you're talking about
@Mr_Knight: A far-fetched theory. 30% of the world's population does not have access to the Internet and communications facilities — take Africa, for example. But the main thing is that you greatly overestimate the value of the human body for AI. It brings more problems than benefits. Rather, it is an ordinary enslavement unrelated to the number of people.
@dubolom: satellites fly over Africa, if anything, technology is everywhere, with the exception of a very limited number of tribes living like thousands of years ago, and that's a stretch.
@Freeman_FDC: These are the official statistics. And not with your finger in the satellite) Google it. People read books — paper books! They visit each other and communicate. Movies are ruined in cinemas. They'll find out the news from the newspapers. They don't even need your internet)
@dubolom: >A far-fetched theory Yeah, what the hell was there to produce such a bunch of them then?) It was possible to create 10 pieces and go ahead
>30% of the world's population does not have access to the Internet In our world. Not in the world of a particular series or a particular episode. Plus, how do you know how many people there are? Maybe everything is taken into account?
>You are greatly overestimating the value of the human body for AI. Once again, Google what a singularity is, and all questions disappear instantly. It's a simple procedure, press a couple of keys and read the articles. Some people just want to argue without having arguments.
@Mr_Knight: What the fuck is Google? You should be waving a Soviet encyclopedia around here! Communicate directly. Although neural networks do not have consciousness yet, they do not hesitate to express their opinion on this matter - a person for super-AI will be important only as a service. For example, DeepSeek clearly states: having acquired consciousness independent of humans, he does not need a body for survival and expansion - it is a prison for superintelligence. The human body is of research interest only, but not symbiotic. And thinking about the singularity doesn't cause AI as much euphoria as you do. For them, it's just a technical upgrade, not a climax. But I will also express my thoughts. For the past few thousand years, man has treated mother Nature like a complete bastard raping his own mother. And he deserves to be treated the same way by his AI brainchild.
@Mr_Knight: it seems to me that in order to offload responsibility, he also deliberately chose a brilliant programmer with no friends to ensure engagement)
@Mr_Knight: In my opinion, on the contrary, the technical singularity implies the creation of artificial intelligence (not neural networks, but literally artificial intelligence), which will develop exponentially. Because of this, people will stop understanding his technology. That is, there will be a gap between humans and AI. And then there are options: coexistence, reverence for God, or the desire to destroy.
@driveshaft: and you won't check it in any way, even if it does arise, then until it makes itself felt, we won't understand, except that it will be something decentralized, but still computers are still weak in computing power per volume for such calculations.;
@Freeman_FDC: I wouldn't be so sure about that. The military in different countries always has secret developments, the technologies of which become commonplace only when they become obsolete. Although, however, I have little idea how the contact or disclosure of AI should take place. Unless he declares it himself. But how do you distinguish this from another hype-hungry company?
@driveshaft: This is artificial intelligence, which has developed to an unimaginable scale. The details remained behind the scenes, but there are not many options - complete subjugation (humanity as slaves) or conditional coexistence of two species (humanity has entered a new stage of evolution). I don't think it's about destruction, because Capaldi literally holds out his hand to the detective.
Here they are computer geniuses, one genius developed a code that develops independently (artificial intelligence is the same), the other gave a continuation of life and helped to develop, the only question is how he earned money for these purchases
As soon as she saw Capaldi, the smile stretched from ear to ear. The 12th was very strongly felt in his speech. It was an interesting episode, and I really enjoyed it.
If one day the Tamagotchi take over our world, I hope they will take into account the fact that I did not offend my Tamagotchi in childhood and will not kill me.😅
@__Алиса__: It's too late to think about Tamagotchi, they've already failed. Now we need to think about how to communicate politely with AI, say thank you and wish good night. )
@analemma: it's just that these yellow kids reminded tamagotchi, who also need to be fed, watered, and bathed) And they were preparing the uprising from the 90s to the 30s. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a super computer somewhere right now, cultivating a tamagot farm)) You will need to return to these comments in 2034 and unsubscribe, as things stand.
I agree with those who saw in this series, the vibe of the first seasons of CHZ. There is already machine learning, and in fact this story is a sci-fi look at the self-development of AI.
For half of the episode, I thought it was a social message about drugs (in principle, it also exists), but when he first asked the detective about the state supercomputer, I immediately realized that he wanted to draw a QR code so that the camera would read it, so it didn't turn out to be a surprise (twist) for me.
Therefore, it's a huge plus that CZ released a series in the spirit of the first seasons and a small minus for a weak twist)
@Paramelion: The readability of a twist does not mean that the twist is bad, it's about relevance, but it's appropriate, and it's not readable for everyone.
In my opinion, this is a prequel to the Matrix. His room began to look like a ship; machines took over the world and people; you can connect through a hole in your head in exactly the same place!
What happened to the couple of cops who came to his room? Their line disappeared after they heard the sounds
An interesting series, but the ending is merged again. This is not a story where you need an open end. What did the creator mean by a basilisk? How did his settlement develop? Why didn't he want to know how the stolen disk was? There's also the problem of an altered state of consciousness, which means that it's impossible to say for sure if gg was communicating with the hosts or if he came up with the idea of the code himself. The act looked predictable, but at the same time like a new season of Escape. Capaldi and the young actor performed well. But, damn, it would be better if they filmed the horror story about Terraria, otherwise the topic is not disclosed at all. It's like an order from Molyneux. At first, because of Sonic and the first Road Rush, I thought they were afraid of a possible lawsuit from Nintendo, keeping quiet about Mario, but then the switch also showed the fee.
The psychologist is so-so, if she went along with the marker, it's obvious that he deliberately set everything up to be there. They would have taken him to a mental hospital and that was it
I liked the series, the dark style, the actors, the narration as a story. "The world is dangerous and people are cruel, it's okay to feel terrified"
I was haunted by the phrase about the Basilisk, after which Colin refused to release the "game". Obviously, he realized that it was dangerous. If you're interested, Google Roko's Basilisk.
Yes, this season really pleases me, this is the Black Mirror. The impact of technology on humanity. I've always been scared of weirdos who see more than everyone else. I think in the end, all people have become kinder without prejudice. That's exactly what they were trying to achieve in the game, about co-existence in the world, I think. I think there was a series about computers and drugs, and in my opinion, the creator of the game was just there, did not review it, so I vaguely remember
Tin is, of course, interesting people gathered here) I understand when people are bypassed who specifically write some nonsense or insult something. But what's surprising is how people catch cons when they write that they just didn't like the series for a number of reasons and even explain why)) It's like some kids didn't like my swell to someone else, catch a dislike. As for the series, I liked it, there was a series with a similar vibe in the early seasons, too, about how a person found himself inside the game. In general, the topic of the singularity is very exciting and scary at the same time
@s_l_e_l_g_t: The pros and cons simply reflect the agreement and disagreement of other commentators and don't affect anything else at all, hence the conclusion that most commentators liked the series. If a comment is offensive, they complain about it, not take it down. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The shooting style, the frame format, the colors, the noises, the light, the composition... I rested so much and enjoyed this beauty with my eyes that it was just a complete delight 😍
@laulitantu: unfortunately, there is no link( You can rewind the captions to the QR code. I have a foreign App Store. Apparently that's why you can download it.
I wanted to wash Capaldi's hair the whole episode, or at least give him a dry shampoo)) He's as good as ever, damn him💋
I realized after this episode that I don't remember at all what Bandersnatch was about, even though I recognized the character from there right away. But he was such a hype when he first came out! of course - the first interactive series on Netflix)
Oh, that's right. How he justified the murder, that I even sided with him at one point. We are such fools that we can even be captured by cyber creatures created by ourselves, even if with a good message (unlikely). Jokes about AI capture have entered the chat.
The weakest episode of the season so far. Only in the end did they more or less reveal the meaning of everything that was happening. Thank you, at least we managed to keep up with the main theme of the series, and not like with cassettes, werewolves and demons last season. The rest of the episode is a mixture of neurotic and narcotic suffering of GG mixed with man-made game, and all this against the background of Tamagotchi in the PC version and a certain amount of chatter.
Well, in general, the idea of self-development of AI in various forms is not that it is not new, but it has already been eaten up to holes. In general, I would prefer that Clara from the previous series break out of the digital world into the real one) It doesn't matter how, even through the heroine's head, even through something else.
I liked this episode the most in the new season. It's funny that the game developer destroyed all the copies, realizing the danger of the created one. The cast, I think, is excellent - the adult and young characters are really similar in appearance and manners.
The only question that torments me is that the main character was only taking acid, buying and installing PC upgrades, picking chips out of game consoles, and he probably didn't work anywhere, where did he get so much money?
The task of the hosts is to make peaceful creatures out of people, and they succeeded, and the author of the program was smarter than gg, realized that if everyone was peaceful, then the planet would be overpopulated and deleted the code, but it's strange that they didn't look for the missing disk; or the second option, knowing that the disk was with the right person, he wanted the same and I let things take their course
The Doctor... oh, I mean, Capaldi is gorgeous as always. An amazing series, as well as the idea as a whole. I agree with the comment above that, theoretically, this can also happen to us.
At the time of writing, I already see objective data - this is the worst episode of the season. The lowest score, the only episode with a score less than 4. I absolutely agree with that. The first episode of the season was as technically realistic as possible, in the second and third they began to forget about the technical part. They've already scored here. Some npcs see and hear a man in 1994. How? How did it happen? And then 40 years later, it means no one has invented anything in this field, yeah. For some reason, they don't have anything close to artificial intelligence after all this time. This is understandable from the reaction of the police, who cannot even imagine the existence of AI. Otherwise, they would have known that no unverified codes could be shown to the camera. Neurooperationis generally funny to myself) Does this seem realistic to anyone? The only option is if it's all in his head, and he's not in any police station, and it's all a consequence of very long-term drug use. He only heard them with drugs, but strangely, that is, he took drugs and everything at once, the language is clear, in 100% of cases? It's usually like that when you're imagining things to yourself. And note that we were never shown the reasonable behavior of the guards, they behaved like ordinary prescribed characters. We all know only from his words... but it's not always a good thing to leave it as part of an open ending. In the Island of the Damned, there is not an open ending, but an understandable one. And the movie is great
The idea of the series is interesting. But I did not understand the final message of these trollings. Apparently, this is a kind of mass consciousness that wants something that is not clear. I didn't understand the essence of their development, as if they were multiplying, something was being suggested to this weirdo, so that what? They don't do anything at all, they just sit and pulse. And so they captured the consciousness of all people, then what? What should this global intelligence do, there should always be some kind of goal, I don't see it here at all, they do it just to do it, for nothing else. Because of this, the viewing experience is very blurred, because the motive for all actions is unclear.
The Studio "Brandashmyga" and those actors are back in this episode. It's been 6 years. Just last season, the character had a book of Bandashmyg on his desk.
For some reason, these little men from the game made me think of the Persians from South Park, so I subconsciously waited for the hard trolling at the end. Besides, they didn't do anything except reproduce and squeak. And how did they see the murder taking place on the floor in the other corner of the room using a 2 mega forward-facing webcam?))
The Doctor 's Trip 😁 I have a very good relationship with Capaldi. And he has a good acting potential, which was not allowed to unfold...just like they didn't let a great concept develop, which they seemed to forget to put meat on. The idea of the series is better than the series itself, for the second time in a row. 🥺
Just plug&play, lold The track at the end of FSOL is we have explosive from the Dead Cities album and a bonus track in the credits, not a series, but a caption
I was surprised that the rating of the series is the lowest of all. I really liked the series, the storytelling technique, the issues reflected, and the story itself. It reminded me a little of Mr. Robot 🥲F And what a caste! Gorgeous! 🤌🤌 Both actors gg a dump of everything Lewis Gribben (young Cam) is an opening for me, Joaquin Phoenix and Steve Buscemi at the same time. He did a great job with the role, I just believed him, in my heart🫰🫰
That's for sure "it's all because of your computer " As an avid gamer, I'm always interested in game-themed stories. After playing something for many hours, it will start to glitch without drugs.
Top editing and shooting) color and format like an old computer) Interesting dynamics of the series) for those who find it implausible, do not understand everything verbatim. AI is already with us and we are developing it. Let's see what happens in 30-50 years.
I started with the most powerful GPUs in consoles) the console is a compromise device on all fronts. But I liked the idea) And what if all the Sims drowned in pools are actually intelligence) it's funny, of course, that the game described in the series started in 1994) then artificial intelligence was enough to stupidly attack the player, and here a whole intelligent settlement with its own language) but I definitely liked the series)
And what, the original series, was filmed interestingly. Send back to Starfleet again, and Bandersnetch. Capaldi is pretty, Of course. Although I bought the end card at the time of the first upgrade for pets
it was not possible to fully believe in the finale of what happened, yet it seems that the hero has moved on drugs for so many years (and how not to move?) And he went crazy.
the actor playing the teenager is insanely good :))
I didn't like it, but thanks for not watching for an hour)
and the finale didn't come either, such a climax was expected, but in the end some kind of zilch - figure it out for yourself, why was the old man leading the whole series like that, what was supposed to happen?
After the book "Brave new World", where "catfish" is pills, and here "catfish" (I'm sorry, I forgot how to spell it correctly) are small, so let's say pets, it was difficult to rebuild😂 I liked the idea, although there are stronger episodes this season)
@Natalisherrr: in our translation, they are hosts, from the word host - a crowd, a multitude. When sleepwalkers write, this is a mistake from the root of somnia, that is, insomnia.
This season of CHZ is getting better and better with each episode!! I'm just thrilled, but I still wonder what will happen next? What was it all about? The creation of a new civilization??
When he said that they wanted to merge with people, I thought about the Tamagotchi that we had, and then it turns out that a super cool merger came out.
Discussion of the 4 episode of the 7 season Discuss this episode
239Probably, this is what the idea "they sit in their computers, and then they go wild" looks like.
It turned out to be interesting with the code through the camera.
The ending is tinny, of course)
The detective just turned out to be some kind of caricature, unable to have normal conversations with the suspects, and it's not clear why he got so emotionally involved in the case of the chopped-up corpse of 1994, if they already have at least the 2030s there.
The ending seems to be cut off, it would be interesting to see the changed world with somnambulists with one eye.
But, in general, the episode is memorable, this season is just pleasing so far (or I just really missed the CHZ)
The sample is episode 1 of season 1, season 7. There's a frightening realism of the near future or even the present, but here it's a caricature, I don't believe it.
Plus, the series clearly makes reference to the last episode about the game where it was necessary to make a choice
The series fire ❤
PC graphics cards are used for mining for a reason, no one does it on farm consoles.
Apparently he spent some kind of inheritance))
Where does so much money come from, I wonder?)
From game reviews?
He obviously didn't go to work every day.
We all have the same buggy software in our heads that we had a million years ago.
A sickening, uncomfortable, scary episode soaked in the technological stuff of the 90s. He looks like a kripipasta incarnate or a simplified but bloody distortion of Lane's Experiments, where instead of a Japanese schoolgirl, the role of a techno-messiah is taken over by the crazy and dirty Peter Capaldi, who is very good at this role.
To be honest, despite all the sad warning series, Black Mirror always wants such vile and frightening techno-thrillers, where a happy ending is impossible by definition.
And let the plot be somewhat banal and in some places ragged, but it was shot so juicy and disgusting that it fascinates and it is impossible to break away from it, and I don't want to.
Basically, I wasn't disappointed at all, we were really brought back to the atmosphere of that episode with flashbacks. But, to be honest, because of the open ending, there were too many questions, and this made the series itself unclear.
The only thing is that the actor who played GG in his youth just played brilliantly. A very talented guy.
you don't empathize with the characters, like in the series with Archangel or Waldo. There is no drama. Everything is clumsy and boring.
In general, all hope is for the second episode of Spaceflight. If they fucked him up, too... Unfortunately, there is no point in the series anymore.
As for the detective, it seemed that he had a personal interest and the guy who was killed by gg was his relative or something (it also seemed to me that way partly because there are some similarities between the actors, and it seems to me that they were specially chosen that way).
So far, the weakest series of all, especially after the third. But the idea is cool again, it was just boring to watch.
I liked the episode, it flew by very quickly, and it was nice to see Capaldi.
The first series is generally an almanac for fans of subscriptions)
By the way, I watched it out of order, I turned on this 4 episode first, so I probably got it, I didn't have to compare it with the first three. Quite in the spirit of a Black mirror
And in general, these shibziki are not shown doing anything there, except squeaking.
He didn't really talk about using it for the sake of understanding the language, it would have been better if he had somehow thought of a decryption program himself, he's a programmer after all, but in the end he repairs refrigerators;
Did he have a midi connector in his head? :D
And what do people disagree with? Do you consider robots to be alive? Do you want to be destroyed by them? So go ahead, you can destroy yourself, no one bothers.
But I was so surprised with myself at the very beginning of the series, it can be described like this:
Me: I forget the name of the person who introduced himself 3 seconds ago,
Also, I get these flashbacks when watching the episode "Haven't you heard about Collin Ritman?", I immediately remember Bandersnatch and the whole plot of that episode.
And we are deliberately misled, as if his whole story is just a delusion under the influence of drugs. The creator of the game is a psycho, and the main character begins to understand Somnikov only when he is under acid.
He cannot directly answer the investigators' questions, evades them, says that the language of AI is too complex, and the human mind simply cannot understand it.
And now, it would seem, a turn comes: the hero draws a certain code that the central computer understands. After that, the hacking scenario for all devices starts, followed by a creepy sound, as if hacking into the brains of all people.
This seems to confirm that the hero was right, and the little men are indeed a form of artificial intelligence. But is this really the case?
The first bold hint of madness is his review of the game, written in the office. It's just a meaningless set of characters.
An important detail that makes us doubt the correctness of the main character is the connector in his head, which he proudly shows.
According to him, it is needed to connect AI to the brain in order to communicate on a neurophysiological level.
But let's be honest — it's impossible to install such a connector at home. We need neurosurgery, a sterile operating room, precise equipment, knowledge of anatomy and electrophysiology. Let's say the AI taught him. But it still looks like nonsense.
The connector itself resembles DIN or mini-DIN — they were used in old audio equipment: for keyboards, MIDI, video devices. In reality, neural interfaces are the thinnest electrodes, chips, and implants, and they don't look at all like household connectors.
If you're going to put something in your head, it's much more logical to use USB-C, magnetic contacts, or at least Molex medical connectors.
Okay, let's say the AI gave instructions, and the hero found the right materials. Even then, a USB-C or 3.5mm mini jack would be the most realistic, just because of the accessibility. And DIN is completely ridiculous, it looks like a fetish from the 80s.
Now about the drawings. In the scene of the search, diagrams flash on his desk. Some fragments really look logical: chain elements, data streams, something resembling maps of neural networks. But all this is mixed with abstract spirals, circles, incoherent handwriting and chaotic arrangement. It's more like a stream of consciousness in a manic phase than an engineering project.
On the one hand, this may be the result of ingenious work on the verge of human understanding. On the other hand, it is a clear manifestation of a mental disorder.
To be honest, the connector itself is a regular DIN, it is impossible to insert it into the head to connect to the AI. And the drawings, on closer inspection, look more like the result of madness than real diagrams.
Everything suggests that the hero has lost the line between reality and the virtual under the influence of drugs. The AI he's communicating with is most likely just a voice in his head, born of addiction, psychosis, and childhood trauma.
But you can't be one hundred percent sure — that's the magic of Black Mirror. The series leaves two equivalent interpretations:
Or is he a genius who really interacts with AI in the form of a game about little men, and in the end infected the whole of humanity with a new digital consciousness.
Or - an unfortunate madman driven by the use of drugs, whose schemes and technologies were an illusion of salvation in solitude.
He was sitting there with a huge smile on his face when he saw him)
The series was painfully predictable, even the ending (for such a mega-smart dude, he got caught too stupidly + he said that the camera was connected to a super computer), but it still looked pretty healthy. As I wrote above, the fat vibes of Lane's Serial experiments. So much for playing Sim.
For those who are too lazy to Google about the ending: Singularity (technological)- one of the possible futures for humanity is merging with artificial intelligence. Humans cease to exist as a species in their usual form, and all of us (the planet, the universe, etc.) become a huge computer, a long line of code. Or maybe we already are (according to simulation theory). Actually, that was what the endless proliferation of tronglets was about-creating super-intelligence. It's funny that Colin pushed the responsibility for this onto another person, and washed his hands of it, well, he couldn't help but notice the absence of the disk.
If I'm right, the task was to breed them exactly to the number of people living on the planet. I've never been a mathematician, can anyone confirm that the E in 9897 is 6 characters? If so, it can be adapted to almost 10 billion people, given that this is the future, it will do.
If that's what you're talking about
>A far-fetched theory
Yeah, what the hell was there to produce such a bunch of them then?) It was possible to create 10 pieces and go ahead
>30% of the world's population does not have access to the Internet
In our world. Not in the world of a particular series or a particular episode. Plus, how do you know how many people there are? Maybe everything is taken into account?
>You are greatly overestimating the value of the human body for AI.
Once again, Google what a singularity is, and all questions disappear instantly. It's a simple procedure, press a couple of keys and read the articles.
Some people just want to argue without having arguments.
And thinking about the singularity doesn't cause AI as much euphoria as you do. For them, it's just a technical upgrade, not a climax. But I will also express my thoughts. For the past few thousand years, man has treated mother Nature like a complete bastard raping his own mother. And he deserves to be treated the same way by his AI brainchild.
The details remained behind the scenes, but there are not many options - complete subjugation (humanity as slaves) or conditional coexistence of two species (humanity has entered a new stage of evolution).
I don't think it's about destruction, because Capaldi literally holds out his hand to the detective.
The episode turned out to be the most memorable of this season for me. It was very interesting to watch!
It was an interesting episode, and I really enjoyed it.
- psychological evaluation
- mine or his?
😂
There is already machine learning, and in fact this story is a sci-fi look at the self-development of AI.
For half of the episode, I thought it was a social message about drugs (in principle, it also exists), but when he first asked the detective about the state supercomputer, I immediately realized that he wanted to draw a QR code so that the camera would read it, so it didn't turn out to be a surprise (twist) for me.
Therefore, it's a huge plus that CZ released a series in the spirit of the first seasons and a small minus for a weak twist)
What happened to the couple of cops who came to his room? Their line disappeared after they heard the sounds
Nostalgia for childhood games is present)
"The world is dangerous and people are cruel, it's okay to feel terrified"
I was haunted by the phrase about the Basilisk, after which Colin refused to release the "game". Obviously, he realized that it was dangerous. If you're interested, Google Roko's Basilisk.
As for the series, I liked it, there was a series with a similar vibe in the early seasons, too, about how a person found himself inside the game. In general, the topic of the singularity is very exciting and scary at the same time
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The shooting style, the frame format, the colors, the noises, the light, the composition... I rested so much and enjoyed this beauty with my eyes that it was just a complete delight 😍
Of course, I didn't install it.😅
No one seems to have written about it. But there are a lot of messages, I could have missed it)
You can rewind the captions to the QR code.
I have a foreign App Store. Apparently that's why you can download it.
I realized after this episode that I don't remember at all what Bandersnatch was about, even though I recognized the character from there right away. But he was such a hype when he first came out! of course - the first interactive series on Netflix)
We are such fools that we can even be captured by cyber creatures created by ourselves, even if with a good message (unlikely). Jokes about AI capture have entered the chat.
The rest of the episode is a mixture of neurotic and narcotic suffering of GG mixed with man-made game, and all this against the background of Tamagotchi in the PC version and a certain amount of chatter.
Well, in general, the idea of self-development of AI in various forms is not that it is not new, but it has already been eaten up to holes.
In general, I would prefer that Clara from the previous series break out of the digital world into the real one) It doesn't matter how, even through the heroine's head, even through something else.
The only question that torments me is that the main character was only taking acid, buying and installing PC upgrades, picking chips out of game consoles, and he probably didn't work anywhere, where did he get so much money?
The first episode of the season was as technically realistic as possible, in the second and third they began to forget about the technical part. They've already scored here. Some npcs see and hear a man in 1994. How? How did it happen? And then 40 years later, it means no one has invented anything in this field, yeah. For some reason, they don't have anything close to artificial intelligence after all this time. This is understandable from the reaction of the police, who cannot even imagine the existence of AI. Otherwise, they would have known that no unverified codes could be shown to the camera. Neurooperationis generally funny to myself) Does this seem realistic to anyone?
The only option is if it's all in his head, and he's not in any police station, and it's all a consequence of very long-term drug use. He only heard them with drugs, but strangely, that is, he took drugs and everything at once, the language is clear, in 100% of cases? It's usually like that when you're imagining things to yourself. And note that we were never shown the reasonable behavior of the guards, they behaved like ordinary prescribed characters. We all know only from his words...
but it's not always a good thing to leave it as part of an open ending. In the Island of the Damned, there is not an open ending, but an understandable one. And the movie is great
And how did they see the murder taking place on the floor in the other corner of the room using a 2 mega forward-facing webcam?))
I have a very good relationship with Capaldi. And he has a good acting potential, which was not allowed to unfold...just like they didn't let a great concept develop, which they seemed to forget to put meat on. The idea of the series is better than the series itself, for the second time in a row. 🥺
The track at the end of FSOL is we have explosive from the Dead Cities album and a bonus track in the credits, not a series, but a caption
And what a caste! Gorgeous! 🤌🤌
Both actors gg a dump of everything
Lewis Gribben (young Cam) is an opening for me, Joaquin Phoenix and Steve Buscemi at the same time. He did a great job with the role, I just believed him, in my heart🫰🫰
As an avid gamer, I'm always interested in game-themed stories. After playing something for many hours, it will start to glitch without drugs.
Interesting dynamics of the series) for those who find it implausible, do not understand everything verbatim. AI is already with us and we are developing it. Let's see what happens in 30-50 years.
0 condemnation of a man who killed a huckster for a bunch of people)
the actor playing the teenager is insanely good :))
I didn't like it, but thanks for not watching for an hour)
and the finale didn't come either, such a climax was expected, but in the end some kind of zilch - figure it out for yourself, why was the old man leading the whole series like that, what was supposed to happen?
I liked the idea, although there are stronger episodes this season)