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Discussion of the 10 episode of the 5 season Discuss this episode
426Especially the first one, which will always remain in my heart. Elizabeth Layl is of course the best girl in this series))
The ending is gorgeous, after so many murders, it was Beck who killed Joe (by Louise's hands). I was very pleased that Kate, Maryann and Louise herself survived, and that Henry would grow up without the influence of such a father. Well, Joe will spend the rest of his life whining like a victim in prison.…
Creep fits perfectly into the final scene~
Joe shouldn't be a likeable character (which is to say that even Joe didn't like him), he's an antihero and shouldn't be liked. If you like him, you feel sorry for him, or you think he went to prison undeservedly, then it's really "about you."
Is there not a single normal guy in the series? In my opinion, there were quite a lot of them, even Raegan's husband.…
I will not write that a typical moment happened here, otherwise you will cry even more because aggressive feminists unfairly attacked you (((
As for the other characters, I agree, they certainly didn't deserve such a pink vanilla ending.
Joe hasn't been smart this whole season and he's lost his touch. Walking, doing something. Still looking for love. I even felt sorry for him somehow. A traumatized person who couldn't overcome himself. A man with a terrible childhood in orphanages, who abandoned his mother. That's what Joe turned out to be.
The end certainly amused me. He is very logical and understandable.
It's strange that Kate survived, I thought she was burned out, how did she get out of the basement of the burning store, but Louise left her there?
Penn Badgley looked so beautifully bloodthirsty. He smiled so much in the boat scene, he looked like Theodore Bundy.
Love Quinn is still the best and will remain in my heart. It was funny to see this season how much he wanted to see from Louise the acceptance, support and boundless love that Love gave him.
I love Love, my most beloved psychopath. I'm biting you!) i wolf you
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Joe wanted love so much that he ended up alone...And even his son realized at such a young age that his father was a real monster.
Whatever the ending was, I would have liked it anyway)Worthy of all 5 seasons.One of my favorite TV shows.
SORRY.Beck and Love are forever in the heart❤
It all ended quite logically.What did you want?So that he can continue to live happily ever after and continue to kill everyone with whom he does not have a good relationship?
Apparently you haven't watched the series and just came to vent your resentment on women.
Yes, men are prone to cruelty and there's nothing we can do about it. In hand-to-hand combat, a woman is physically weaker, so why don't you still understand that the existence of feminism is just protection.
It is clear that it is difficult to understand for someone who did not feel defenseless, but try to imagine, then you will understand the ending.
A great move against a maniac obsessed with a beautiful plot and dramatic self.
As it is, it's a great season and a great ending to the story. It was as if it hadn't even been drawn out and the point was made when it was needed.
P.S.: And it's especially nice how at the end they flirted with the fans of the series with this letter and the phrase about the crazy society. It's good when in such stories with beautiful actors, shots and "love" they make it clear to you that you don't need to romanticize the hero or the story itself, that this is not normal. Although maybe a little bit I want to.
He had a woman who accepted him unconditionally and loved him the way he was. What had he done to her? He cheated on her and then killed her- what a poor and unhappy psychopath... and women are to blame for everything.
🤡🤡🤡
I cried when Henry said that my father was a monster. I felt sorry for him the most in the series, he was born into a family of psychopaths...
It turned out to be quite a logical and good ending.
Joe Goldberg finally got what he deserved for all his actions.
Overall, I liked everything — it was as if the atmosphere of the first season had returned: the bookstore, the cage, the new you
But there are a few things that still hurt.:
1. Joe has become noticeably dumber
He's literally at gunpoint on social media, the media, the police, and any careless move — and he loses his son. And what is Joe doing? He drags random people into a cage or kills nounames on the street — by the way, it's not entirely clear what happens next to the bodies, they just "disappear on their own."
Joe was ten times more careful in the first season, even without the threat of losing Henry.
2. Completely ignoring the bells
Throughout the season, Joe is surrounded by people who suspect him, know about his past, and dig into him. Joe— nothing. The instinct of self-preservation seems to have disappeared, he doesn't think that much.
Plus, too many people are finding out about him this season: his wife, his wife's brother, Maddie, Harrison
The issue is out of control, but Joe doesn't even think about the fact that such tactics + the looming backdrop of the rest of the season can reveal it.
3. Repeat the arch with the revived victims
Bronte survived, and so did Maryann and Kate.
For Joe, this is a strange fail that has already failed him once, and he understands this in the cage — and now he makes this mistake with Bronte. Again
It's also strange with Kate: Joe didn't even think that it was possible to erase the voicemail from the phone, cancel the sending, check Kate's pulse.
Bronte, in love, saves Joe, and what happens to Kate next — why aren't there any attempts on her part to help
Still, I'm glad for the series, the atmosphere, and the fact that we were able to finish with dignity.
Joe suffered the punishment he feared the most - loneliness forever
It's a great series, I'll even miss it.
It's a ten-out-of-ten season.
Joe's punishment... Loneliness, yeah, yeah. You should have assigned him to a boarding school for noble girls as an educator. The lack of the opportunity to procreate will not stop him, because he has always been driven not by his penis, but by a sick mind. Unlike in the fourth season, he did not repent, he just temporarily lost his purpose, until the very first prison doctor, or even a more or less adequate letter. Otherwise, live at the expense of the state, read books and don't think about anything. The least he deserved was death, but complete paralysis or turning into a vegetable would be fair.
And turning into a vegetable - is it legal?
P.S. the 1st season is the best.
"I hoped until the last moment that Joe would get away with it
" Penn Badgley is handsome" - yes, about the actor, but through the prism of his character
All previous seasons preferred to just ignore the police, and even though many people didn't like it, it was better to keep doing it. Because the police won't come from the fact that you just dialed 911, not to mention the whole opera group, and even if they did, depending on the situation, most likely several shops would have been discharged into Louise (to be honest, I thought that was Joe's plan). Well, logically, he should have been sent to a hospital, not alone.
It's a pity that Joe hasn't been developed in any way over the past five seasons. He still continues to wander and search for true love, but maybe otherwise it wouldn't be Joe.
The agenda this season is too fancy. It's clear that this is Netflix and there's nowhere without it, but in previous seasons it wasn't so obvious. And there's literally one positive male character, and that's a dark-skinned gay man.
But in general, the vibes of the first season are present, everything looks just as nice, despite all the flaws.
This is not the development of a character, his thinking, moral compass, understanding of the world has not changed in any way throughout the journey.
And how Kate survived, I didn't understand at all.
It's a pity for Nadia, after all, her life really collapsed because of him, unlike the same Louise, who remained herself and recovered.
Go on 😉
Joe is noticeably stupefied, but I think it's from impunity. He got away with it so many times that he naturally began to feel invulnerable. That's why I lost my vigilance. For which he eventually paid the price.
I liked the moment with social media and how it showed how easy it is to manipulate the public. Who doesn't really care if you're a murderer or not: the main thing is to present the story correctly. I immediately remembered the story of Luigi Mangione, when half of Twitter went crazy and demanded to let him go.
Great ending to the series!
Scenes with Joe and the girls fighting (the most ordinary, non-fighting girls) On equal terms , how is it ??
Is he a ruthless , trained killer , fighting on equal terms with a writer?
In the end, Kate was turned into a bright, kind character, how? There's also a lot of blood on her hands , it was just ignored.
But I liked the scene of the conversation with the child and the demonstration of Joe's real personality.
And when I looked at it, there was only one question - why did they hang this gun at all?"
Bronte/Louise - generally by no means, it would be better if someone else finally caught Joe, generally a weak character, like all ticktockers. I liked Kate in the season (except for the silly ending), the sisters (the actress is well done), and the rest of the cast is basically normal. The season itself is average, but better than last year.
Overall, it's not a bad series, but it was very delayed, the first season with Beck was great, the season with Love is generally great, Love performed by Victoria Pedretti is the best in the series, I think if the creators hadn't had to stretch the series, they would have ended Joe's story on it. Well, Penn Badgley was dragging, I don't know who could have done better than him.
I'm laughing again from Cardi B's tweet: "He used to be 10, but now he's 2... inches of #Jogoldberg."
- Well, GG is a murderer, of course, but you can empathize with him
- all the good girls have escaped, they are smart. The villain is in prison, he's stupid and aggressive. What's that? Motivation and moral rectitude? And what is this?
The finale was shot as if separately, with this montage and music. And Joe's monologue about society. According to the development of the plot, anything can be substituted there - and the integrity of the work will not suffer, because there is no integrity here.
Finally, Joe got what he deserved for everything, and his statements in this episode were downright sickening.
Great ending, great season. I'm going to miss Penn Bangely. But I won't talk about Joe)
It was nice to see the actors who were in previous seasons. The musical accompaniment is also beyond praise. In general, everything turned out very well. 🫶🏻😎
But yes, of course, without knowing such things, you can dream about a story and that it was all women who intervened and that another Dexter could have turned out well (but the series is not about Dexter as bae).
Here, in general, the series was finished and made the way it had been planned and wanted to be done for a long time, for which they even abandoned unnecessary bed scenes somewhere in the middle, for which they had wanted to get away from romanticization and show the monster more for a sooo long time. So it's extremely funny to read comments about the agenda and about bad women who ruined a man's life. 😂
You can see the impact of just such a narrative, even in the comments, which are full of people who are happy that Kate is alive and doing well. And I remind you, on her behalf they opened a gas pipeline that killed thousands of children, she knew about Joe's murders and helped hide them, her uncle was killed at her direction. But yes, that's different, she's a victim, she's been used by everyone, and now she's repenting.
Once again, there are no complaints about the way Joe finished, there are complaints about the hypocritical bravado through which they came to this, covering it all with a ton of agenda, instead of logical actions
As for the book, it's already clear that this is nonsense, if you look at what he crossed out there, it was small pieces of text. The fact that she realized that the author was someone else, from one reference, is nonsense, as is coming to the conclusion that Joe's killer because she complained about their relationship.
If anything, I'm fine with the fact that someone might miss the finale or that they see logical inconsistencies in it.
I just don't see the agenda in it.
It literally shows that Kate is not a saint either, that Bronte is quite crazy, that these are not the best women in the world, and not some kind of saints. So, I'm sorry, I don't see the agenda, but I see heroines who are not quite adequate, because they suddenly have control over their lives against the background of the transfer of control over their lives and they have become overconfident, they want to stop being afraid of panic, they want revenge, they are not quite smart, they have a complex of guilt and desire. becoming saints is just a story of unhealthy psyche and appropriate behavior of ladies, not hypocritical bravado for the sake of an agenda.
The fact that people are happy about Kate's survival is a separate story. Here, the character simply evokes sympathy for the fact that she wants to improve, that she blames herself for mistakes and clearly says that this was not normal. Did she encourage Joe to kill his uncle? Yes, it was shown that Joe himself actively encouraged her to solve the problem and that he was given the go-ahead. And they showed the tension in him and that he himself could snap at any moment because he didn't have enough of it. It's not very fair to blame Kate for this, but some people do it here. If he hadn't lost his temper at that moment, he would have obviously lost it the next time and without getting any good for his actions.
Yes, it seems like the heroines are ambiguous, but it's presented in such a way that their bad deeds happen only because of Joe. Kate didn't want to kill anyone, it was Joe. Louise would not become a stalker, but it is necessary to show that Joe is a murderer. The twin wouldn't have killed her sister, but Joe made her. But as soon as Joe's oppressor went to prison, everyone's life got better, everyone became righteous and successful. Well, it just looks ridiculous, just like Louise with a bullet wound, sprained ankle, fell from the second floor, almost drowned, catches Joe. Well, apart from the fact that women are strong and smart, and white men are oppressors and murderers, it can not be called.
The biggest and funniest problem is that it's all unnecessary for the plot. If Kate and Louise had logically died and Joe had been caught by the police, it would have made absolutely no difference from a plot point of view. But it would look plausible and morally justified (they put their lives on the line to catch Joe)
Ugh, fucking disgusting... I'm sure xwitter or tiktok (that was mentioned like 10 times this season) liked it...
Yes, according to the plot, it seems logical that the women joined together in the end, and her men are there, because they were direct victims. Did it make them even stronger? No, they still easily twisted the pistols out of their hands and shot them in the stomach, haha. Yes, and the ladies have accumulated enough, in their plans, in physical training, in an attempt to get a confession or kill. They are not directly shown to be successful, and even more so righteous.
And the fact that in the end they showed that they were living happily for themselves — well, okay, why not? At the same time, Kate is clearly shown as a person who admits her guilt and considers herself guilty. The sister is shown as a person who also considers himself guilty and stressed. It was clearly noticed about Bronte that she was not OK and that she was Ted Bundy's girlfriend type. There is no complete shove of blame on the maniac with the arch that it's all the men who are bad and the girls who are holy. They just got away with it this season, that's all.
I could be wrong, but that's how I see the ending, and that's why I don't see the agenda. After everything I've seen in my head, I don't make these women saints, or successful, or united winners.
Rather, I see that after many facups and attempts, letting down their guard, tightening the noose around their neck, someone eventually succeeded.
"Whether it made them even stronger", it doesn't seem like it really did, but apart from the twins, no one died. Despite the fatal injuries, or the situations they were in. Although in previous seasons they would all have been dead.
As you say, they all got away with it, to please the scriptwriters, for no particular reason. I doubt that at least one of the viewers was waiting for some kind of happy ending, besides punishing Joe, the question arises why add this
Of course, this is also just my opinion, but this general gathering, the extraordinary vitality and the happy ending, combined looks extremely doubtful. It probably depends on the point of view and we won't come to some kind of consensus.
Right for the WHOLE SERIES? Not A SEASON, but A SERIES? What about the guy who worked with Joe in the first season? In my memory, he was more or less adequate. What about that black guy from season two who worked at the Queen store with Love and Forti? What about Will, whose identity Joe stole and who was locked in a cage in the same second season? Yes, Will may not be the most "morally correct" person, but the series makes him look quite positive and adequate, except that he works with Joe, but he only knows that "good" Joe from the second season. And Cary from season three? Not the smartest guy, but, again, quite positive and adequate, in my memory. The same Dante is also adequate (but, oh no, he turns out to be gay too, what a horror). Reese from the fourth season could also be adequate, but we stupidly don't know anything about him.
To say that Teddy is the only adequate male character in the ENTIRE SERIES is kind of too much.
The fact that the ending was long expected and correct is quite logical. The fact that they have long wanted to make it one where the main character does not get away with his crimes and thinking. And the fact that not only women think this way in the comments, supposedly rejoicing at the punishment of a man, but even the dude who played this man.
Running in and shouting about a subpoena because women, being direct victims of a maniac, have joined forces, or because they got away with what they did is somehow too much. But whoever is looking, he will always find or call what he wants.
And why should I be dissonant with a situation in which all previous seasons the maniac was lucky, but this season his victims were lucky? It's like it's just that the cards are different right now, after so many opposing situations.
And it's good that the maniac was eventually imprisoned. But whether his victims paid a big enough price is no longer so important, because the series is not about them, but about him. Even damn it, the last season has been actively showing how the gears turn in his head, how he thinks and acts. So what mattered was which ending he would have, and the rest wasn't much.
Goodbye, Joe Goldberg, goodbye "You")
The creators had hundreds of options for how to capture him. They could even adequately show feminism by adding a female policewoman who would lead the investigation and come out to Joe. But no, instead we have a gang of ticktockers who, based on schizotheories, have been stalking the hero for many years without any evidence.
There's no problem with being caught by a woman, if there's a problem with how it looks and is presented. When it looks extremely ridiculous, and in the end everyone is waiting for a happy ending, without moral trauma and punishment in Kate's case.
You're just looking for direct words, "Women are Power," but it's done through visual imagery, metaphors, and allegories. And there's nothing wrong with that if it's done in moderation and fits the plot appropriately, rather than making the heroines white, fluffy, and unkillable.
The fact that there were no adequate female characters does not negate the fact that they are not presented as such. In the structure of the plot, it's presented as their minor flaws, but they're good and deserve a good ending. A good example is the guy who wanted to kidnap Louise. Here they make an approach to the fact that he is not so bad, but just injured and this is his disadvantage, but then they abruptly cut it off shows that he is finished and will continue to do so. But Louise is nice and just lets him go.
It is from these dozens of inconsistencies, illogical actions and an extremely dubious preponderance towards female characters that there is a feeling of a fat agenda that simply hurts the eyes.
The witnesses of the summons will see her everywhere
Someone wrote that the women here are also not very adequate and positive, and now compare what kind of ending they have with the male characters.
You may not consider this an agenda, but it's all at the expense of the plot, I don't have a logical justification for why to do this.
there were 5 cool seasons, the main character's storyline logically came to an end, no questions at all - a gorgeous and sometimes psychologically creepy series with a fair ending. And on the last page, they gave a shit - after all, bright and gifted, crystal-clear women live, and there are only oppressors around to prevent this garden from blooming. THINK ABOUT IT, MAYBE YOU'RE ONE OF THEM. And you're like what xD
THANK YOU THAT KATE SURVIVED (although of course it's unclear how)
How stupid Bronte is.. I'm going somewhere with a serial killer. I'll make him cross out the words from the book, and of course the icing on the cake, I'll reach for the phone myself, when literally at gunpoint I can force him to call the police himself.…
Overall, the season turned out great, we were able to complete the project with dignity, and Joe finally got what he deserved. Let's celebrate friends
It's a good thing he ended up like this, because it would really be a relief to die.
And of course, with all his extraordinary intelligence, you'd have to be a complete idiot to fuck up a woman like Kate.
If you're saying that Joe didn't deserve his part (in terms of being free), then there's nothing to even talk about with you, by God. No wonder Joe says that sasaeti is to blame for everything.
But there are really people in the comments who believe that Joe should be free, and his girls deserve to die. That's why that dude Dane was put on the show.
The girls didn't deserve to die, but without that, there wouldn't have been a series.
The fact that Joe was put in jail at the end is, of course, correct. He deserved it.
I don't understand the admiration and joy that the girls won.
"It's good that Kate survived and got her happy ending." - I remind you that her whole quarrel with Joe began after she sent him to kill her own uncle in order to keep her post in the company and prevent her uncle from disclosing information that she was to blame. in a bunch of deaths myself.
Joe spent almost the entire series (with the exception of the first season, perhaps) looking for a kindred spirit, a person who could understand him. And I found it, by the way. So, as far as I'm concerned, all these girls are quite a match for Joe himself (well, a little short in terms of murders, of course). Stalkers, psychopaths, the list goes on.
And the fact that the final ending is indicative of a joyful happy ending for the whole company, I personally did not like it at all.
BUT. The ending did not meet my expectations. No, I'm glad he got what he deserved, but as far as I'm concerned, they overdid it. Finally, there are too many inconsistencies: • just the utter stupidity of the cops; • the absence of at least some clues pointing to Joe, although he is just drowning in blood, it's one thing to hide in London under a different name, it's another to be in everyone's sight and not raise questions; • fantastic luck on Joe's side and amazing bad luck for positive characters; • Bronte's character, not only that, but I still didn't understand why she would get involved in all this (seriously? was it because of the teacher's book?), and I was also confused by her endless fickleness, so I didn't understand this character.
Joe, of course, is terribly annoying this season, he went off the rails as much as possible, if in the first seasons it was still possible to get into his character and even, sometimes, be on his side, then that's it, the nature of a bloodthirsty unpunished psychopath outweighed all the good that was in him (and was it? thanks to this season, an end is put to the motives of Joe's murders, even where he allegedly helped someone, he did it only for himself to quench his thirst, plus the creators lowered the degree of romanticization of maniacs).
Penn Badgley is gorgeous, of course, in this role, how great he conveys in one episode a nice guy you can't help but fall in love with, and in another - an uncontrollable maniac from whom you had to run as fast as you could yesterday.
I conclude that the season was dynamic, but somehow not logical. So many people had so many opportunities to nail Goldberg, but he inexplicably got away with it, and then everything was solved all at once.
Season 2 was and still is a favorite, the LA atmosphere was excellent and the characters were the most colorful.
And yes, what kind of bullet wounds are there, Bronte was actually screaming in pain, then calmly standing in front of Joe in the woods, and the cops behind her were also just standing and watching, illuminating the background with lanterns.
It was written here that there was an emergency exit in the basement, which was forgotten here, but Kate could only be saved through it.🤷♀️
I think they just couldn't get Ortega into the finals because they were busy, so they decided not to mention it at all, although I really liked the whole line with both Ellie and Delilah, where Goldberg at least tried to be more human.
To make everything SO clumsy, it still needs to be tried.
Joe was better in prison than death, because he wasn't particularly afraid of death, but he was in a cage. There's no question about that.
But there are a lot of questions about how badly feminism has been dragged down.
I'm not even talking about the number of inconsistencies and dumb actions of the characters. There were quite a few of them in the series anyway, but this season there's just some kind of quintessence.
Survivor Louise okay, I can still believe it, but survivor Kate?
After all, the first season was the coolest, and Beck's murder surprised me a lot. And the fourth season came to me, at least the series didn't repeat itself endlessly and it was fresh.
I'm disappointed, but I'm glad it's over.
The problem is not her rebirth, but the fact that she was very badly maimed in the basement, which makes it hard to believe in her survival. Perhaps it was worth mutilating her less, so that the turn with her rebirth would not seem illogical.
Kate turned her back not after killing Bob, but after the fact that instead of solving and finding solutions to problems together, Joe decided to act alone, lie, and kill when he was explicitly asked not to.
Kate didn't know who she was marrying, she hoped that he would stop doing bad things, and she also didn't know the extent of what he had done before, because he had hidden it, and she had a right to know.
I was attracted to this series because Joe is 98% the same as me in terms of typologies (in case someone is messing with them). It was interesting to watch the events unfold and reflect throughout the series. I hope something similar will come out, but for now we can only wait.
P.S. The scene under Eilish was divinely beautiful
All series should end on time, this one was delayed a bit, but despite this, in the last season, the plot was well developed and returned to its roots. The scriptwriters reminded us of how it all started, and everything that happens after that, the girls teamed up against Joe... brought the story to an end.
I can't help but say that I still feel very sorry for Joe, he did everything the way he thought was right from childhood, a deeply wounded character. He fell in love with a "special" girl and was "disappointed" in her every time, it wasn't his fault, that was how his psyche worked.
We'll miss this madness and review it in a couple of years when everything is forgotten)))
Just like a bunch of others like you
Oh, that's different, she's a woman)
After season 2, it was hard to watch, but season 5 made me happy))
Joe is where he belongs)
On the one hand, it is very impressive that the series uses current phenomena of our society: tracking through social networks, Internet detectives and the same opinion leaders. In addition to the main plot, you can follow modern trends — and it really goes down.
But from a plot point of view, it's extremely frustrating that Joe as a character doesn't seem to have grown at all. He was presented as a smart, well-read guy with problems in building relationships (to put it mildly). That's how he ended up in prison. Having gone through five seasons and a wagon full of women, he still hasn't rethought what went wrong. It's like he has the same verdict from time to time: "She doesn't understand/accepts me." Even a smart character, albeit with a huge ego, might have thought on some nth love thread that the reasons might be different. It would make more sense to me if, at least in the last season, he thought about it — not necessarily even supporting it with actions.
As for the murders, Joe seems to be immune to getting burned. If in the first seasons they somehow tried to show how he gets out, then here the murders were for the sake of killing. Again, it cannot be denied that he just felt impunity. However, in this case, I wanted something more interesting (although the murder scene during the broadcast was successful).
It wasn't without its blunders, but it happens everywhere. The camera in the basement, where there is no connection (the victims could not reach anywhere), suddenly pulls an online broadcast from the blogger. Well, maybe the influencers have a special tariff.
Thank you for these 7 years — and especially for Love. For me, she was the most colorful character.
another thing is that according to the laws of fiction, the hero must undergo some kind of growth. but here we'll put it down to the fact that Joe is not a hero, but an antihero)
But it's surprising that he didn't initially figure out that she was lying. And in the finale, didn't such a psychopath really feel that something was going wrong?
When he drowned her, I thought she was just pretending to be dead and would stay alive. It was predictable.
Some more tragic and philosophical ending was expected. And then the villain was caught -a happy ending.
And I didn't really understand, since when do you get a suspended sentence for murder? (It's about the twins). Why isn't Kate sitting in as the mastermind of her uncle's murder?
Here you have a super strong and independent Kate, a top manager and head of a major corporation. She has money, connections, guards, mercenaries, military, consultants, friends in the echelons of power and the criminal world. And what does she do with all this?) He goes with two women to beat out a confession from a maniac) Well, isn't it funny for you? Moreover, it is precisely trained people who kidnap him and do not take him out of the city to a special place where a specially trained person will knock out all the testimony, but they take him to the center of New York, to the basement)
It would have been better if he had killed Bronte, taken his son, and after that Kate ran over him with all her resources and the main villain was buried somewhere in the forest, as he was burying his victims.
BUT HERE'S A GAFFE FOR YOU!
HOW FAST AND DEXTEROUSLY CAN A MAN RUN, WHO WAS STILL LIMPING IN LONDON FROM THE FACT THAT …
CUT OFF 2 TOES WITH A KNIFE?!
AND?!
This is a weak-plot bullshit from a screenwriter who has re-read women's novels and decided to end the series with a general happy ending, just to end the series with the punishment of a privileged rich white man with misogyny;
Dexter's finale, which many people hate so much, is simply a masterpiece against the background of this scripted viser
And Kate? Wasn't she trying to kill Joe, or was it possible to avoid responsibility if she survived the fire?
In general, I would like a more sophisticated punishment for Joe than just prison and a pussy cut off. As for me, the finale was leaked, and phrases like "you took my voice away", "you're a misogynist", etc., just ruined the end of a very good series.
Bronte also pretended to let him get away from her, and he had already heard the police and ran away from them. With Kate, yes, a wonderful resurrection
I sin against the screenwriters. They decided to show how the universal evil in Joe's face was defeated by the absolute good. And the fact that the "good" has a muzzle in the cannon is the details.
To be honest, Bronte was the stupidest character, especially at the end, when she really thought that just pointing a gun at him would not rush at her/would obey her (about her phase, he is innocent, I keep silent, because then, yes, after shedding a couple of tears, he spoke to her teeth). And in the end, she was lucky that he fell for it, that she drowned... Well kamon
There are a lot of questions about his cases, especially the people from the first seasons, how they connected these murders with him in the first place. How did Kate get away with her crimes?
Most of all, I was glad that Nadia had a happy ending. Just because she really was the most innocent convicted person.
I still think that season 2 and 3 were the peak (thanks to Love).
Joe wasn't stupid during these seasons, he was like that initially, he didn't change in any way during the entire 5th season. It's just that he liked a lot of people in the early seasons, so they preferred to ignore it.
Joe is mentally ill, he loves and showed love as best he could.
How do you think revealing the essence of a maniac reveals the theme of feminism is also not clear. So, in your opinion, any detective story about maniacs/murderers, are these feminist paintings because they show the true face of murderers who seemed nice? It sounds like nonsense.
The problem is not Joe's punishment, but how it was implemented, there were literally dozens of better and more logical options. But for some reason, they chose the one where the heroines grow strong, independent and with a happy ending, despite all their sins.
From the very beginning, the TV series "You" skillfully balanced on the edge: he talked about a maniac and a sociopath, but he did it in such a way that the viewer willy-nilly had to not only condemn the hero, but also, in the most unexpected moments, feel sympathy for him. Joe Goldberg, with his gentle appearance and predatory nature, turned out to be not just an antagonist, but a complex psychological portrait through which the authors managed to explore the nature of human weaknesses, self-deception and emotional dependence.
Each new season of "You" revealed a fresh story to the viewer, but at the same time remained faithful to the deep theme of the series: dangerous illusions that are easy to fall into if you want love at all costs. The seasons organically developed the plot, transporting Joe to different worlds and environments, giving him new masks, but always returning to his true nature.
High-quality production, good script dynamics and well-developed characters have always been the hallmark of the project. And the final season was a worthy culmination of the whole story. One of the key themes of the series was especially clearly manifested here: people tend to be deceived, many fall into the trap of Stockholm syndrome, falling in love with rapists, forgiving those whom logic demands to reject.
The finale neatly tied up a lot of threads left in previous seasons. The seemingly forgotten details returned, gained new meanings and organically intertwined into the overall picture. The last episode stands out especially for its atmosphere closer to the genre of psychological horror and thriller. She pushes herself to the limit, making you feel the same anxiety that smoldered throughout the series, but here it unfolded in full force.
As a result, "You" ended very well. This is a story that began as an "unusual thriller about a maniac," but eventually became a dark and deep reflection on the nature of love, addiction and self-deception. And no matter how much we want to keep our distance from Joe Goldberg, the authors have done everything to make the viewer understand that the monsters among us are much closer than we used to think.
And the fact that the twin was acquitted, well, she killed her sister and killed what, she didn't want that. Fully justified, I think.
In the first season, Joe was damn smart, for all his repulsive nature, it was impossible not to admit that he rarely made big mistakes. Even in the next three, he was smart, even though he did strange things. But this season, he appeared in such an image that it was unclear exactly how he got to the position where he was. All his mistakes, all his weaknesses. At the same time, there were glimpses of the old Joe - the key in his hand, the connection with his friend from the first season.
I would have been more pleased with this season if Joe had been like that initially, because that's what he was supposed to be-not some genius of breaking into other people's homes, using other people's smartphones to spy, kill, and so on. Now it looks like a character's stupefaction in order for the plot to work and he could be killed.
The end is good, but how it was reached is another matter.
ps. it's a pity that we didn't see the girl from the first season who had suspicions about Joe, as well as Theo, who could well have avenged Love.
Maddie was released for murder, albeit in such circumstances, for conspiracy and concealment of the crime. Her beloved, too, for concealment and complicity.
Kate should actually be put in the cell next to Joe, after all the events.
Teddy is also an accomplice. He'll ruin his company, too, I bet. He just came and turned an evil corporation into a good corporation. And yet it was necessary to use all the profits for charity. How come Kate hadn't figured it out at the post before?
Nadia can also be returned for not telling the truth about Kate, although she found out everything, for conspiracy to murder.
2 moronic investigators with their arrogant faces, too, it seems to me, at least it was worth judging, as a result of their actions, a man was killed, in fact, they set a trap. The Americans seem to have an article for this case.
There are no questions about Bronte, I liked the character from beginning to end. The actress is very interesting.
And in the end, of course, I expected Joe to fall in love with his cellmate. Or at least the local nurse. But this shot in the groin removes all hopes of a future (3-5 years from now) prison season.
And in the end, of course, there is no rethinking of values - again, a hurdy-gurdy about an innocent self, that's all of them. Although in general the message about a sick society is not devoid of logic, but in the context of self-justification and absolution of responsibility, it is so-so.
Charlotte Richie is a great actress. And I'm happy for Nadia, as if she's recovering from a broken life. It's a pity that I'm alone, but at least this way.
The ending may be good because it was in the book, but everything is so stupidly set up here, successful ringing from a broken phone, swimming out with a bullet and almost hanging from the lake is brilliant!!!
And of course all the girls are safe and alive, Right Kate?
Magically, I hope Netflix will understand his mistakes "as they did with Dexter, everyone didn't like it and oh miracle the final season is not the final season Dexter is alive and will continue to rage"
So I hope Netflix will be able to clean up its reputation. Record Netflix.
1. Joe will be released in season 6 because his fan is richer than the Lockwoods, or let it be Dove Queen
2. Joe kills everyone involved this season and finally stays with the one for the rest of his life.
3. The penis can be restored, combine the TV series you with the Black Mirror and Joe will have a new penis.
4. Joe's son will be just as sick.
That's it, a perfect new season!
Well, the season 4 finale looked good, but the White Prince on Horseback Penn Badgley just said that his character should get what he deserved, you'd better keep quiet then, well, wait for the script for season 6 Penn, Natflix will contact you soon.
It's just that the ending is not bad, I have nothing against it. But the way it was brought. He's just tearing up his ass and I want Joe to come back and take down the whole gang of girls.
After 5 or 10 years, the series could be brought back, and Netflix would call it a cultural renaissance.;
After all, Joe has a new goal, and now I want to know who the new YOU are.;
and I think that this is the best outcome. death would be his salvation, and he didn't deserve to be saved.
Kate and Bronte survived a bullet wound to the stomach, that's it.
I didn't like the ending.
What kind of a bitch is this redhead. I was really pissed off by the ending.
She was arrested with a gun, shooting Joe, but they put him in jail, not her. This is so unfair! It's infuriating!
P.S. How could you even fall for Bronte, not only the fastest of Joe's girls, but also the scariest in the series...
Joe was just some kind of complete sucker and moron who had been making a complete mess all season. I probably don't need to list everything, but it's not even that one Bronte fucked him hard twice, but from the very first episode, almost all the characters have him hard. Kate actually spent the first half of the season wondering what he was doing all day, and after that, too. And in the very finale, when he kind of killed Bronte, instead of leaving as soon as possible, he decided to jog through the woods for some reason, where he got burned, although earlier we were shown that the pond was literally a few meters from the house.
At the end of the campaign, Bronte learned not only to teleport and heal instantly, but also to stop time, otherwise how to explain that she was dead in the woods, then in a few seconds (unnoticed) she managed to steal a gun from a dead cop, and then took off her invisibility cap and found herself behind Joe)))
Kate not only survived (as if Bronte had put down the bolt at all and didn't save her), but she also didn't go to prison for her crimes, even though she'd been afraid of that all season.
All this, of course, does not prevent you from watching the series, but such STUPID scenes and such ridiculous behavior of the main character cannot be compared with the first seasons.
And it's rather strange, as many wrote, how they were able to prove these murders at all, if they couldn't for so many years.
I also agree about the evidence, well, he confessed that he killed Love, but at this rate he could have confessed to killing Kennedy 😁
The moment of talking to my son to the point of tears
Joe finally got punished for his actions, and even in prison (which is expected) he did not realize that he was to blame for his actions. I liked how in the end the last season was connected with all the others, and especially with the first one. And the beginning and the end of the series are beautifully combined (Hey, you in the first episode of the first season and you at the end of the last episode of the fifth season). I am very glad that Kate survived and Henry has a mother.
here's a list of all those he killed for the entire series.:
Season 1
1. Benji Ashby III — died of anaphylactic shock after Joe gave him coffee with peanut butter, knowing about his allergies.
2. Peach Salinger — Joe is shot dead, a fake suicide.
3. Elijah Thornton — thrown off a roof in a fit of jealousy.
4. Ron - stabbed in the throat to protect his neighbor Claudia and her son Paco.
5. Guinevere Beck — strangled after revealing the truth about Joe.
Season 2
6. Jasper Krenn — killed in self-defense, after which Joe dismembered his body.
7. Henderson — died in a fall down the stairs; Joe faked suicide.
8. Raphael Passero — Joe's biological father, killed in an attempt to protect his mother.
Season 3
9. Ryan Goodwin—Marianne's ex-husband, killed by Joe to protect her and her daughter.
10. Love Quinn— Joe's wife, poisoned with monkshood and burned.
Season 4
11. Malcolm Harding— a teacher, was stabbed to death.
12. Simon Soo— an artist, was stabbed to death.
13. Vic, a security guard, strangled with a tie.
14. Gemma Graham-Greene — killed by a knife.
15. Rhys Montrose— a politician, is killed by Joe after realizing that Joe is his hallucination.
16. Hugo McNamara, a security guard who was killed on impulse.
17. Tom Lockwood, Kate's father, killed by a plastic bag.
18. Edward, a student who was killed to cover up previous crimes.
Season 5
19. Robert "Buffalo Bob" Kane (Robert "Buffalo Bob" Kain) — Kate's uncle, strangled with a lasso.
20. Clayton "Clay" Anjevin, an ally of Bronte, killed during the conflict.
21. Unknown policeman — Joe is killed during an escape attempt.
Did you miss anyone?) I eliminated Reagan, even though she was killed under Joe's pressure.
Henry's words about the monster in the room are heartbreaking. What a smart kid, and how hard it is for a child to come to this realization.I'm glad that Kate is alive and he's not alone.
that Louise survived, Basically, like Kate, I think it was worth at least briefly showing the viewer how it turned out that they got out.
In general, the end left mixed feelings. Nevertheless, thanks to the creators and actors for the series, it was an interesting adventure!
I also think it's absurd to justify a maniac, and what a pity it is when there are real people in the real world who support the killer and blame the victims for being killed, as if they themselves were to blame and there was nothing to open their mouths.
"Hitting means loving" is not true. It shouldn't be like this.
But it doesn't have to be that way.
Season 2 — 9/10
Season 3 — 6/10
Season 4 — 6/10
Season 5 — 5/10
Overall, the score was 7. After season 2, it got worse and worse. It's a pity that the character of Jenny Ortega was never shown. Yes, and the cameo of the Persians from previous seasons in the form of cuts in TikTok, well, that. I really hope that this is definitely the last season, otherwise I won't be able to stand another love affair of this "monogamous".
Anyway, I cannot accept the actress and the character of Bronte as a new "interesting" love interest for Joe (I apologize for the tautology). It was as if the scriptwriters were trying to pull an owl on a globe and make us feel for it. Of course, I can't speak for everyone, but I wasn't impressed with her at all. The scenes involving Joe and Bronte were boring and dumb even.
And not on her behalf, as from the hero who ends this story, I would like to listen to the narration. But already as it is)
My heart ached for Kate and Henry the most this season. I felt great joy that Kate was still alive, and Henry remained in the family with a mentally healthy person.
Well, the first three seasons are the best.
Love - van love 💖 Actress Victoria Pedretti played in such a way that many viewers were waiting for her to appear until the end of the series, and I'm one of them.
I'm glad that the series is over and the maniac got what he deserved - prison, not the easy escape from imprisonment in the form of death, which he so asked Bronte for.
As the commentators noted above, I no longer have the strength to look at the "one-lover" Joe)
Judging by how terrible the fourth season was, I thought that the fifth season would be so bad that it would be good, but no, he's just bad
. Bronte is the fucking dumbest character in the series (Joe is in second place this season by the way), I really hoped that Kate died when Bronte came. Then at least Bronte's moronic plan had an excuse, but she just left Kate to die (then this fool says something to Joe about misogyny??? You left a woman to die for what????)
In general, it would have been better if Henry had been allowed to kill Joe, it would have been better if he had thrown a knife at him in the third episode, and not at Reagan, and for the remaining seven episodes we could have watched Joe's spirit talk to God – then the series would have turned bad to good. It would have been
better if it had descended into a moronic comedy, but alas
. I'm glad Joe got what he deserved, his son, who seemed to have a penchant for cruelty, finally realized something for himself, maybe not he will follow in the footsteps of his father (and mother...)
(or we will see you2 one day...)
in general, it's good that we're done, to see Joe not developing in any way, just killing more, another season would be lousy at all
goodbye, you
But in general, he won't be bored. Thousands of fans will do their job, so loneliness will not torment.
Any more questions about how Bronte saw?
And how did the wife survive the fire?
There are no words…
Well, aren't you better than them, with our sins?
Oh yes, I suspect the ending was made for the sake of the summons, because they are all strong)
I watched the series because of the maniac and how he does everything, and not how he gets stupid and lost at the end. and miraculously resurrecting the drowned girl shoots off his cock... Well, that...
P.S. Maybe it's my love for Penn Badgley and his acting that speaks to me. How good he is!!!
Joe and Bronte's love line didn't satisfy me, like many others.… :(however, I'm happy with Bronte as the heroine who avenged Bec and the other girls. By the way, it was very nice to see Beck in the heroes' memories this season.
I can't believe the series is over... it's been a wonderful five seasons. 💔
I'm glad Kate survived. 🥹
On TV series: I didn't really like the ending. You can kill a character and then everyone will be angry that he got too easy a path, or you can put him in prison, where he will be the next Manson with a bunch of wives and fans. Yes, he feels lonely, BUT HIS SUFFERING IS NOT ENOUGH FOR ME.
I'm glad that Kate is alive. Bronte didn't like it at all, or rather the actress who played her role. I miss Love. The 1-2 seasons were amazing.
The cops, who usually don't scratch their ass so as not to burden themselves with unnecessary body movements, suddenly responded with as many as ten outfits to a random call with silence from the last episode. It's like they've been waiting for a signal from Bronte all this time, with an ambush in the woods. BELIEVE 👍
Also, I absolutely do not share everyone's joy that Kate somehow survived a bullet wound behind the scenes, and on top of that, a strong blow to the head, which usually knocked everyone out with ease at Joe's hands. How did she manage to crawl out of a burning store like a Terminator, what a strong woman.
And suddenly, no one had any claims against her. She was no longer an accomplice in the murder of her uncle, and she did not sign anything dubious, killing a thousand children, and she did not embody a conspiracy to murder.
Why was she so worried about her reputation all season? 🤨
In the end, the main thing is that she repents in front of the audience, which means she is JUSTIFIED AND FORGIVEN. 😇
For some reason, women applaud and call her a beauty, even though she's just a little less fucked up than Joe 🙃
Is it really okay for a child to live with such a super-morally correct mother? Compared to Love and Joe, of course, her mental problems are not so critical, but since we have a big final finale here and everyone seems to be getting what they deserve, it would be nice to somehow punish her with the help of justice. 🧐
But the campaign of the grandmother was once again solved, which, in principle, is not surprising at all, but the double standards of some viewers here are frustrating :-))
I really liked the scene when Joe attacked Bronte after calling his son. It really causes fear and shows him as a real mad maniac from some bloodthirsty slasher. Cool shooting from both the floor and the ceiling! It just got creepy. The actor is amazing, of course, he gave us a crazy beast.
It's just that, for my taste, the ending seems to be a little short-changed. It is an order of magnitude better than the previous one, at least. In the spirit of the old seasons, with funny references to them.
I feel sorry for little Henry. Very touchingly, he realized that his dad was a psycho and a serial killer. And he hung up
The rest of the characters just don't give a fuck about the candle....
Saying goodbye to the series itself after so many years is also sad, of course, but to be fair, it's about time...... it can't keep us entertained forever (((
This series will remain one of my favorites! Although it was absolutely stupid in places, but somehow I fell in love with it. It will be nice to review everything somehow over time, as everything will be forgotten!
The idea of Bronte/Louise getting a confession out of Joe, and then killing him, left alone with him in the wilderness, was immediately a failed idea. It would be much more epic and fair to see revenge from all the women he hurt, but what we have is Joe, who will now spend his life behind bars alone for the rest of his days, which is also a good outcome.
Goodbye, you
Bronte is literally the most pathetic you of all, and yes, of course, it was she who put Joe away, we believe. She had a solid plan, didn't she?
There's a normal connection in the house to talk to Henry, then there's no tight connection in the same room.
The phone that fell from the second floor is alive and well.
Of course, the dispatcher hung on the line until he heard Joe's confession, which at that moment was in another part of the yard. These guys live in 3025, and we're still colleagues, can you hear me?"
They also quickly determined from navigation where the call was coming from, and in three minutes they jumped up to cordon off the forest with the whole staff.
Of course, a man who has killed a bunch of people cannot determine whether his victim suffocated or not. Bronte's last name is Copperfield.
How did Kate survive?
Why make Beck a brilliant author, the scriptwriters think that we've forgotten the first season here and it's going to work?
Not a word about Love, except for the verdict, but it's clear — apparently they couldn't keep up with the budget.
From a personal point of view, I didn't like that it was Bronte who turned out to be the retribution. A gray, plain-looking simpleton who fell in love with an abuser, covering for him even after killing a friend she called family. The most uninteresting and illogical character of all the seasons.
Ps. Phoebe is a sweetheart, I was very glad to see her :)
Penn Begley is great this season, hopefully he will be nominated for some serious award. But to be honest, Anna Camp did this season for me - her scenes with the twins were something with something. I've been rooting for Maddie all season and I'm really glad she had a happy ending too.🥹
Well... Goodbye, you. You murderous handsome bastard.
P.S. No, Kate is definitely the terminator :)
But, nevertheless, the ending was just crumpled up.
Like I was sooooo waiting for his punishment, of course.
But the fact that both Kate and Bronte survived surprised me.
Bronte is actually a terminator)
And how did Kate survive was explained to us at all?
All in all, it was an interesting series, and I hope there will be as few sociopaths like Joe as possible in our lives..
the analogy with the children of alcoholics (for God's sake, I'm sorry), many (not all, yes) will not even stand next to alcohol.
I don't even know where to start))..
I am surprised how different opinions about the ending have developed in the CIS and the rest of the world. Everyone is thrilled here, but Insta, on the contrary, raised a fuss about the finale of Game of Thrones.
The season turned out to be cool, but I didn't like the ending at all. The last 5 minutes is just that? The shame begins instantly - with a joke below the belt. Then they gallop through Europe, running over minor characters (there's no point in commenting) and spice up with Louise's dawn. The whole season has been drawing parallels with her character from the series The Handmaid's Tale, which is probably why I developed a dislike for her. Well, she doesn't pull into the role of a hero (by the standards of this series).
It would have been better if Joe had died instead of Love in season 3 and that would have been the end of it)
They were as close to each other as possible. Everyone who visited Joe after Love was nowhere near her.
Thanks to Netflix for this story, despite the ending. It was nice to come across this series before it went viral on the Internet (on season 3?).
The hype helped him get through 2 more seasons, but were they worth it? Everyone will have their own answer.
A worthy ending. Joe finally got what he deserved and will be alone with himself for the rest of his life. It's a harsh punishment, but for people like Joe, it's well deserved. Most importantly, no parole.
I'm glad that Kate is alive (although I don't understand how she managed it at all) and Henry will have a mother and a chance to grow up to be a good, really good person.
Thank you for closing all the lines, there are no more questions about anyone.
And yes, the music in the series is just great! ❤️❤️❤️
P.S. I hope there won't be any "You. New blood" 😅
- the character of Bronte/Louise didn't come to me at all, there is no normal motivation, in the end, her "brilliant" plan is to stay alone with a maniac in the wilderness and threaten him, well, camon. You could have just handed him over to a policeman at the store.
- the surviving characters are simply "far-fetched" for the sake of the plot.
How could Kate have escaped in a burning store when there was no one to pull her out and she was already unconscious? Nothing. How did Louise survive being drowned underwater by Joe, also with a serious wound? And then I ran to look for him in the woods, and I found a gun on the way. It's also "far-fetched"
- this ending is in the style of "and everyone's life eventually got better and all the women lived happily ever after." Too cloying, sorry.
For me, if Joe had burned down in his basement store with Kate in the penultimate episode, there would have been a more logical and good ending.
I really liked the series and the final season. Thanks in large part to Pen Bengely, he managed to embody the image of Joe 100%.%
Love will always remain in my heart. I think Joe had the strongest chemistry with her.
The ending with the letter is funny, there are a lot of really sick fans of even such game. In principle, we ended up in such a way that we could have continued if desired.The villain remained alive so that theoretically he can escape and solve further issues with the unwanted ones. 😄
, but it'll do too. but everyone has a happy ending," the scriptwriters went too far. you can immediately feel some kind of hack. and the sheep are safe and the wolves are well fed, well, that doesn't happen, it's immediately sobering, you know, well, it's a movie...
The ending itself with Joe in prison is as logical as possible, but the live Bronte and Kate are puzzling and annoying.
It is clear, of course, that both Maryanne's monologue in the store and Joe's last words about "maybe the problem is with you", addressed to such crazy maniac fans who romanticize even the most creepy and terrible trash, is a good and correct message, but only from the point of view of artistic value. such results were still spoiled. A happy ending is definitely superfluous for everyone.
Well, yes, they didn't shoot anything better than the first two seasons and Love, and if you take all the seasons in total, then there are a lot of internal contradictions and inconsistencies, but to hell with it, they finished it well)
On the stage in the woods, there was hope that Joe the bear would bully him, but he was only physically deprived of his manhood. Then they would have stripped completely for a complete stuffing of symbolism.
In general, I was waiting for something more subtle and impressive.
I consider this to be its most deserved ending. Death or suicide would be too easy an option for this monster. The man was not obsessed with love, he was obsessed with himself, like all psychopaths in principle. And 0 remorse in the end only proves it.
For all the comments that were written here, there were only 3-4 people with this position, and they all went down the drain.
I really liked the fight scene in the light of the swinging lamp. Actually, I liked the whole fifth season. And the end of the story as a whole. I hope it won't be like Dexter, continuing with a grown-up son with an inner urge to kill a hundred years later.
And she's strong and smart at that. I'm glad she's alive, but to be honest, she should have been responsible for her uncle's death. It's not quite fair.
She's not a victim like the others. Love accepted Joe completely, until they got tired of each other and both got hurt, she died, and he went to prison for her murder. Kate didn't do much better, but she was free.
The fact that Joe wasn't killed is even more interesting (I really thought she shot half his face off, but it turns out something else). There's a chance his story isn't over yet. And if that's all, then loneliness is the best punishment.
He was a good father (he always got along well with children), but the desire to find the one who was obsessed only with him made it impossible for him to raise his son. Although maybe even the search for a soulmate is just a bonus, and the main passion is murder.
TV series 🔥 10 out of 10 - well , if you know what I mean 😂
And Love was definitely the most interesting couple for Joe.
I enjoyed the last season. However, Joe's cold calculations were not enough. I understand that I lost control, but in previous seasons, at least in terms of questions, he was one step ahead — he led, then circumstances / Love / etc. Now he is absolutely driven.
I killed my sister— well, sometimes we'll let her go.
Kate is involved in crimes — nothing either, let's let her go.
But Joe (I'm not justifying him—he's still a brute in his actions) — go to jail🙌
In general, the ambivalent impression of the ending is that if season 1-3 is a solid 4/5, then season 4 is 3.5/5, and the last one is 3/5.
And I'm so glad that Kate survived and Nadia was released from prison.
Joe finally got his way, Penn Badgley is an awesome actor. Thank you for these interesting five seasons.
You're doing worse in your head than Joe, you hypocritical, two-faced slaps.
Penn Badgley played frankly well, I don't understand the romanticization of gg, because he's such a bastard that I never once had the thought that he deserves something good. All his actions, from the very beginning (with the surveillance of Guinevere), are disgusting and no excuse in the form of "he just wanted to love and be loved" has the ability to apply here. A good acting game is to doubt whether the actor himself is not the same asshole, it turned out well with that. The character has always been extremely unpleasant because he could not understand a simple thought - love is not an absolute obsession with each other. Either you love or you don't exist anymore, there can be no life after Joe, because he's the only one who can love *you* the way you deserve it. And so another girl becomes *her*, *she*, and so on.
Joe was so afraid of the cage that he sewed the key to it into his hand, but in the end he ended up there, alone and with no way out. Death would have been better (in his opinion), but it was the cage that he deserved, the one that he moved from New York to London, the one that became an integral part of his self.
In some places, Louise's character was annoying, which is natural, because through her they showed us how much Joe's mind is drugged, they always showed it, but they put a strong emphasis on this particular season.
It's a beautiful ending, but my heart will always remember Love, and it was you who gave me my beloved actress Victoria Pedretti.
This season came right in one go, just like the first 3, but I barely watched the last one. Because I didn't like the actress who played Kate, but this season the attitude towards her has changed for the better.
But still, Love, an incredibly beautiful actress and a gorgeous actor, will always remain in my heart. I'll definitely watch more TV shows with her.
I was very surprised that their building was on fire, no fucking fire, the policemen were rarely seen, and here in some ass in the middle of the forest, not just local policemen, but also marshals managed to rush in such a short time.🫨
It's also amazing how the femi agenda flashes here this season...I may not remember the same thing before, but they're throwing it at you right now, I don't mind, but I'm curious.
these are all the moments where Joe runs along this line in his underpants, he's like a mixture of a terrified beast and a liquid terminator (he ran just like that one)...It's funny that he and maybe the bells were shot off😅
and then many people say that Joe is not such a Joe this season...damn, really, in fact, his only moment, miraculously thought out in advance, is the key in his hand. And so...he completely fell for someone else's game..
It's a finale for Joe...Well, he's good, and he deserves to be in a cage, alone, and with books, but I think prison books aren't super diverse.
Kate♥ I'm glad she's alive, fuck knows how she survived and who saved her, it doesn't matter😄 The fact that Henry stayed with her pleases, but it's a pity for the boy, the father is a homicidal maniac, given the cruelty of others, it's difficult for a child to survive, of course, mom will help, but still...although if a sequel were shot in n years, where an adult Henry is trying to figure out what's what, I wouldn't be surprised. Dexter was filmed after 10 years, why not here
And I'm so happy for Maddie and Harrison, bliiiin just got their happy ending, together in love and well-being🥰🥰🥰
krch, I liked it, I watched the whole season in one gulp, a good ending, evil is punished, not a single love has been killed this season, in fact, there are not even a few killed this season 😄
That is, a hypocrite who has killed a lot more people than Joe.
That's all you need to know about the duplicity of the local babfront.
I want to continue.. But alas
Wounded, scared, drowned, rebelled and runs through the woods, and even moralizing speeches are pushed by Joe, well, this is the fantasy genre)
I absolutely adore Wuman Powder and all that, but it's Bronte, Kate, and Marianne who are the top of my dislikes.
Kate, by the way, also got away with all her dirty deeds, conveniently)
Joe was shown as a kind of Ted Bundy, perhaps if they want to return the series in 5/10 years (as Dexter's corpse is eviscerated periodically), they can show how a fan in love helped escape or a prison employee, a common story.
The first season was the most luxurious.
as for me, the ending is weak and just a happy ending for many characters, it would even be better if Kate and Joe both died in the basement, it would be an interesting irony.
If we look at the whole series as a whole, it has never shone with brilliant investigations or anything else. Personally, I've always enjoyed watching Joe fall in love.
Goodbye Joe Goldberg.
And how much this season has exceeded my expectations. So many plot twists, interesting characters, great game, especially the handsome Penn Badgley. The way he played in this episode is something. Joe was chasing Louise like a wild animal, and it was very scary for the heroine at that moment. I'm glad she was able to see through it and bring it to light. Indeed, for such a character, eternity in prison is the worst punishment. Joe finally got what he deserved for everything he'd done.
The only thing that slightly spoiled the ending was Kate's sudden resurrection. Kamon, she was mortally wounded, she was left in the basement of a burning building, no one knew about her, and the firefighters did not rush to the bookstore. And also this joke, where exactly Louise got when she fired, is also somehow very inappropriate. Oh, yes, if you decide to use a Radiohead song, then you only need to include the original)
Otherwise, the ending is decent. I'm glad I decided to watch the rest of the series.
I really liked the series, and it ended quite well.
She broke into his store, complained about the lack of money and housing — he did not call the police, gave her a job and a high salary, housing
She wanted to write — I called a massage therapist, a cook, took her to the house — write in a high atmosphere
She raved about him, wanted to become his heroine — he fell head over heels in love.
She was being terrorized by a kid (that's what Joe thought) — he was protecting her and eventually killed him in self-defense BECAUSE of HER fault, she could have stopped him, screamed, etc
., etc.
Where did he wash it???
Feminist nonsense without any binding. Maybe Kate could have said something like that, even though she was also using and greasing him with all her might. I felt sorry for Love—they just fell in love, got married, and had a baby, like some kind of regular Joe crush. But LOUISE certainly can't complain about Joe's attitude towards her — only she was insincere with him from the very beginning. I believed in what I wanted, even though I knew from the very beginning that he was a murderer. What claims can there be against him if he is the murderer?? Maybe a few questions for the mirror, Lou?
Joe's golden words in the cage - there are so many sick women around that his psychopathy is just a flower.
His son's words cut him to the heart.
The fact that Kate pulled through was an unpleasant surprise. Bronte did not appear in the final shots with the summons.
Joe is a perfectly prescribed maniac, a perfect plot, a perfect script. Thanks to the creators for these years together.
Crowds hysterically mince everyone who dares to point out that the script was ruined by the fem.a subpoena.
They literally captured the lighthouse.
At the same time, the off-scale level of hypocrisy and this other exceeds all reasonable limits. Kate is suddenly an innocent victim, and she's glad she survived, ugh.
In general, I left impressions during the viewing. I'm sad about the way they ended Joe's story, how important it was for them to spin it exactly the way they did. as a result, the impression of the series as a whole dropped from 4 confident stars to 1 unhappy one.
It's just sad.
As cruel as it was, I wanted Henry to shoot Joe in the finale, protecting the mother, a close-up of the child, and a half-open ending. It would be in the spirit of such a series, it would evoke emotions.
But in fact, most of what is happening in recent episodes raises a lot of questions and facepalms.: Louise's choice to leave Kate on fire, decide to deal with a serial killer alone, a call to 911, after which the whole squad decided to check the forest. Well, that...
** The scene with Henry's phone call was just relentless.**
At some point, I started treating this series like something like the Vampire Diaries, like you get involved in the setting and don't find fault with the lack of firefighters and cops and all that, you just accept that this is how it works in this world, and Joe has a blind spot.
But Henry, God, Henry... just imagine the darkness in which this child has existed for almost the entire season. fucking in my mouth, I was crying like a scum. and I'm talking about it so clumsily now, because when I fuck with my little finger, you can't choose the words anymore!! During that scene, I hated Joe as much as I'd ever hated him in all his murders (although there had been moments).
Again, I just agree with the setting and therefore deny that a living Kate is = Damon and Elena resurrected a hundred times. / Dean and Sam. I'm grateful for Kate alive, okay? Because she, and even more so Henry, deserved it!! otherwise, my heart would have ached for a couple more days from a series that was not the most weighty for these pains. at least she would have died beautifully (I mean her dialogue with Joe and her contentment at that moment). Well, yes, Penn also gave away acting in this scene, I love him.
in a voice with Harrison and his all-inclusive trip behind bars)))) Well, he kind of took everything from the situation, didn't he?
otherwise, of course, even I, who was already ignoring everything, freaked out a few times for these fights. Like why not shoot at least in the knee? I had to do it twice: when I was reaching for my phone and when I was yelling at him in the woods. shooting eggs is such a thick and not very witty irony, they say, "Look at how we end it, eh?" And I stuck this pink shit in and left it, well, to beat it up, Janine! It would be useful in the lake, right
Hmm. Well, of course, there's absolutely nothing left of the wit and grace of the first seasons. And yes, I agree with those who wanted him killed. Well, you're Daenerys Targaryen, Joe, no doubt the scriptwriter's favorite (~~ remind me, Penn didn't write the scripts there himself at the end?~~)
This is both bad and good. There are more cliches, more conventions, and more pianos in the bushes.
But at the same time, the series has become even better as an attraction.
But the last two episodes... I haven't seen such a concentrated fempest for a long time. The idea was so perverse that the creators decided to gather all the still-living girls of the main character, lynch him, but then stupidly release him in order to demolish all the viewers of this series in the end with an even more feminist wave.
And he went crazy, and they shot at him, and he was lying in a puddle, and his dick was shot off, and he was running through the woods like a man possessed from a Shyamalan horror, and it turned out that he couldn't write at all. And his book was rewritten and made really good, but before that the book was bad.
What a mess of cliches, what violence against the character, what a shame, God... I don't even want to sort it out.
Everyone knew how the series was going to end. The trial of the hero. And it happened. And the final conclusion was correct. Our society indulges such scumbags and feeds their madness. The last scene of the series was great.
But the whole denouement, it's a shame. This is a feminist hack. The main character in the five seasons and in the last two episodes are different characters.
It was like watching a perverted, mediocre fanfiction at the end of a story.
Having started as the best season of the series, the fifth season produced the weakest screenwriting of all.
That would be a top ten, but it's only 7/10.
A complete drain.
That's for sure. However, it is worth noting that not all insane scumbags are necessarily homicidal maniacs, most of these scumbags are outraged, completely out of control, like blamers, or schizopheminists who have seized this site. It's creepy to see what's going on here.
** Goodbye, "You" is the final chord of the legendary series**
Joe Goldberg looks like a good guy. He works in a bookstore and loves classical literature. Joe is well-read, neat, pleasant in communication and always ready to help. But when he falls in love, he shows his true nature — a cynical psychopath. For him, there is no personal space or the price of human life, because Joe is a stalker and a serial killer.
"YOU" (2018) is a dramatic thriller that immerses us in the world of manipulation, obsession and the darkest sides of the human psyche. The main character turns his love into an obsession. He uses modern technology and psychological manipulation to follow women, fall in love with them and control their lives.
Each season is a story about the crimes of Joe, who escapes justice. But it's also a reflection on how society shapes our ideas about love, morality, and violence. Through a charismatic antagonist, the series explores the boundaries of good and evil, showing that people are not at all the angels they used to seem to humanistic psychologists. And Joe's iconic inner monologues deepen the understanding of how easily an antisocial personality can justify his actions.
The plot of "You" is a mix of satire, unexpected twists and literary homages, which attracted viewers all over the world. At the same time, the success of "You" is, of course, the enchanting game of Penn Badgley, who managed to convey the inner conflict — the pitch darkness and dim light of his character, forcing the viewer to experience both fear and sympathy.
It was hard for me not to sympathize with Joe: I was touched by his childhood trauma, loneliness, love of books and a sarcastic sense of humor. I recognized myself in some ways. And no wonder, empathy for antagonists is a common thing. We love notorious villains, sometimes worrying for them more than for their victims. This has its price — disappointment in the hero when you realize what evil he brings with him. And the main thing here is to learn from what you've seen, to remember the examples that you don't want to become.
Joe became who he is because of abuse and rejection in childhood. His route is the road to hell. But we can choose another, much better way.
It's a good anti-hero piece. Thank you.
Louise behaved like a fool and shouldn't have survived, but the scriptwriters certainly did their best. And Kate's miraculous rescue is on the verge of fantasy. I turned a blind eye to the fact that Joe and Bronte walked out of a room completely engulfed in flames without suffering a single injury, but Kate should have turned into ashes in this scenario.
In general, we're done and fine. The series was delayed and this season failed on all fronts.
I am generally silent about their hypocrisy and the joy that a mass murderer who was responsible for the deaths of hundreds survived. They got too much of it, obviously. The bottom is bottom.