s05e02 — Я так вижу

03 May 15:01 #

Well, it was a pretty intense game. Ars keeps looking for loopholes, and Shast drowns for justice. Although I always thought it would be the other way around. 😅

I'm waiting for the 3rd edition and hope that the guys will finally play against the game, and not against each other. 🤞🏼
I'm rooting for Perkins and I totally agree with what he said at the end. 🫶🏻

A parody of Shasta: 🔥😂

yulialik

10 May 23:19 #

@al_iskh: VRS is an eternal reader)) I also read it in my Contacts)

kirillpavlyuchuk

03 May 15:09 #

How emotionally Ars played))))

You immediately feel like you're in the process, it's a pity that you lost, of course.

04 May 13:02 #

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05Jane

04 May 16:00 #

@_dakota_1: "The episode has comments, but we have hidden them because there may be spoilers."
here is a warning before ALL comments.

04 May 17:15 #

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Little_Girle

08 May 03:50 #

@_dakota_1: Why even read the comments if you haven't watched the episode yet? It's clear that there will be spoilers. People will discuss what they saw, and if everything is encrypted, why write comments at all, I want to discuss what I saw, not write a review

ksandrovna

03 May 15:17 #

On the one hand, you can understand Shasta with his fairness, BUT on the other hand, why go against a team in a season that is literally called a team season? The guys weren't cheating, but were looking for at least some loopholes to win a really difficult game.

Meloman_Nastena

03 May 21:39 #

@ksandrovna: That's exactly what they did - they cheated.

Диана_Свитти

03 May 15:23 #

The game is just some kind of hysteria! 🤣
— Thank you!
— Is this a clue?
— It's fucked up!

In short, it is clear that Shast will be fighting all season against the attempts of cheating by the troika.
"These are your guesses! ...beautiful!"

Dima got the chip, now you don't have to worry.

spacedraconyx

03 May 15:25 #

It's a very cool game! Wave-teamwork of emotions! 🌊🎨❤️‍🔥

elisswet

03 May 15:27 #

Terracotta and terraced

NataliaVel

03 May 15:42 #

Of course, I understand that the guys have fixed roles for an interesting show. Like Ars is cheating, Shast is suffocating. But it's probably necessary to do it in moderation, shast suffocated the second issue to suffocate. Arseny is wonderful in this issue, I laughed with cats . The game is interesting . I turned up the light to full and the color correction caught my eye . It was better in previous seasons.
but these are all small things, I love the interaction of the guys, that's not forced, where they just sit with their four and get high.

mariacara

03 May 22:55 #

@NataliaVel: they shoot in one day, I really hope that Shast will switch, although I don't really believe it. 😥

vcrank

04 May 20:50 #

@mariacara: Gorokh said that Anton is for justice this season. On your own initiative

elisswet

03 May 15:54 #

The game was really boring, not in a bad way, but for some reason I got tired of watching it.

elisswet

03 May 15:55 #

As a gambler, but also as someone who stands for justice, I understand both sides, so I wasn't annoyed by anyone's position. To some extent, Ars's position was closer to me, because he did cool eyeliners, especially with a cat, because not everyone can guess about 9 lives, especially since Anton did not immediately understand at all.

NyanQt3_14

03 May 17:09 #

In the case of the cat, the hint is justified.
But coming of age is really cheating and pointing out the exact number, which is explicitly prohibited in the rules, even though Ars turned out not to be a Russian.

NyanQt3_14

03 May 17:25 #

Well, what Ars said under the mask is also kind of a fur

Meloman_Nastena

03 May 21:40 #

@NyanQt3_14: Yes, and infinity is a direct clue.

09 May 14:13 #

@NyanQt3_14: No, well, he lived when we had a limit of 21, but I don't think he drank then.

NatashaNeta

03 May 17:50 #

I'm completely on Anton's side - well, you can't hint at numbers, it's absolute cheating. And shoving the random word cat into the subject of Moscow is also cheating. You need to describe the color, not look for ways to cheat the game. Otherwise, you can really disguise the letter and the number and just collect the answer, which is then the beauty of the game.
Maybe I have a heightened sense of justice, but such games spoil the whole impression and cause only sadness when watching.

The game itself is cool, I saw it in insta. Hues and Cues, in the wake of the release, I decided to order it too. There are no categories, but also try to guess without categories.

Логин_уже_занят

03 May 19:00 #

I'm on Anton's side because I'm just as stuffy in games as he is, who always insists that everything be done according to the rules and without cheating. But I understand the guys' position - nevertheless, in teamwork, the team should come first, even if you have to compromise your own beliefs. Besides, they still lost even like that)

And the hint about the endless desert sunset was cool, unobvious, and you have to think about it.

melsbrik

03 May 19:41 #

Shast has changed his mind. Of course, it's bad to break the rules of the game. But the rules forbade DIRECT hints. I would not say that "endless", "cat" and "teamwork" are direct hints. And Shast didn't come up with the idea of "coming of age" himself. Then what are the claims in general? In short, it's the fifth season, and it doesn't change. He'll always find something to complain about.

04 May 13:11 #

@melsbrik: I didn't like Dima's passive approach that season, but now Shast is upset, it always stifles him, as if Stas had possessed him.

09 May 14:17 #

@melsbrik: It doesn't matter if they're straight or not, you can't hint at the coordinates in any way.
The point of the game is not to encrypt and unravel the coordinates of a color, but to name something of that color so that others would understand.
It would be more fun if the category was ignored, and not the coordinates suggested.

melsbrik

09 May 16:20 #

@dkarnov: "the cipher should hint to other players at the hidden color and at the same time fit the following restrictions: directly correspond to the category, do not contain color names, do not give direct hints on the letter or number of the hidden color."

Why do you think they could ignore a category when it's a specific violation of the rules, but couldn't use indirect hints on coordinates because you don't like it that way? You just came up with the meaning of the game that you would like it to carry, and changed the rules for yourself. Buy yourself the same game and play with your friends the way you like.

11 May 00:25 #

@melsbrik: "You just came up with the meaning of the game that you would like it to carry, and changed the rules for yourself."
No, I didn't come up with it, you came up with the idea that since it is indicated that you can not give a direct hint to a letter or number, you can use an indirect one. But no, the cipher should hint at the color, not the coordinates, and the meaning of the game is precisely guessing the color.

"Why do you think they could ignore the category when it's a specific violation of the rules"
That's my opinion that it would be more fun, not that it wouldn't break the rules.

"Buy yourself the same game and play with your friends the way you like 🙂"
I liked it anyway, it was fun. Therefore, I'm not saying that they did something wrong, I'm saying that they clearly violated the rules, did it get worse? No. It's even a pity that we lost.

melsbrik

11 May 00:50 #

@dkarnov: I don't understand why you decided that if you can't give a direct hint, then this also applies to indirect ones.

In any game (even the simplest ones), the rules are always clearly defined, despite the fact that in the comments below you talk about the "spirit of the rules". No. Without rules, it is unclear what the meaning of the game is. One can only guess intuitively. These rules not only did not prohibit indirect hints, but also did not say that hints should indicate only the color. I think it wouldn't be a long paragraph, and it wasn't written to avoid "stuffy kilometer rules." Just like the word "direct" in relation to the prompts was not just used for fun.

If you are still convinced that the spirit of the rules exists, then read the rules of playing the fool on Wikipedia for an example. Every nuance is described there to avoid any ambiguities. Although the game is very clear and primitive

_westiest

03 May 20:26 #

The years go by, the seasons are tabletime too, the Hustler is still the same

mari_zem

03 May 20:45 #

"Is that a clue?"
- It's fucked up!

I'm sitting near the morgue!!!!

😂😂😂

NataliaVel

03 May 20:53 #

@mari_zem: These are your guesses!!! Beautiful!! , killed

Meloman_Nastena

03 May 21:43 #

I'm really annoyed with this season of table time. While they were playing each for himself, everyone was following the rules. Here it is written in black and white that it is IMPOSSIBLE to suggest numbers and letters, and the game is to describe the COLOR.

It's Ars's problem that he can't explain the color properly. I love table time with all my heart, but if they continue in the same spirit, I'll just stop watching, what's the fun in that case?

Shast done well

a1154351

04 May 10:05 #

@Meloman_Nastena: I spit furiously

Tikhonov91

03 May 21:54 #

Damn, the game itself is awesome. It's kind of complicated, of course, but it's cool;)
the guys don't quite get the team game, they pull it on themselves, but it's already as it is.On
the contrary, these emotions make it more interesting to watch from all sides.

terrasobakovy - 1*b 🤣

helenaum

03 May 23:50 #

The game is exciting, I really liked it. I was happy to try to guess the colors together with the guys.
Violations of the rules and cheating are also outraged. It is much more interesting to understand the logic of a hint than just calculating by letters and numbers.

theGraw

04 May 23:33 #

@helenaum: it looks like a game based on the board game hues and cues or analogues. With some refinement / interpretation of the rules, but the field itself and part of the mechanics seem to be from it, if it's also interesting to play live)

polinnariy

04 May 06:00 #

The game is really complicated, it seems to me that it was designed for a Kremlin star, a cat, and something like that.

09 May 14:19 #

@polinnariy: No, the coordinates are not suggested in any way, it's even difficult. The game is designed specifically to explain the color of similar objects. It would be better without categories.

Sun_girl

04 May 06:39 #

The game itself is very cool, and I personally really liked the idea of Dima and Ars, giving ornate hints, like with the endless desert or the Kremlin star cat, it's also necessary to think about which figure the reference is.…
Well, it's impossible to win if you don't have any hints at all!
And in the end, I agree with Seryozha, they shouldn't have put all the chips in one sector, they could have stretched and increased the chance of winning, but nothing, there are still games ahead and there are still chances to win.

MyshowsFM

04 May 07:31 #

"Are you ready?"
- Yes
, the Kremlin star...
is red.. All
- The cat
- Ars, what kind of cat?
"Fuck you!"
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

a1154351

04 May 10:03 #

I've been bombed a lot since this season, well, it was written in their rules: "don't cheat," it's written in the rules of the games how not to do what the fuck, they're still fucking Shasta that he won't let them do it, I'm fucked. I would never in my life sit down to play board games with Pozov and Arseny, it's fucked up, I hate people who are always trying to find "loopholes" :)))))

vk913092

05 May 00:21 #

@a1154351: What's wrong with looking for loopholes? If the game is written clearly, you won't find them in it. If you're playing a game where the authors didn't think with their heads when creating it, then why can't I think with it by looking for gaps and holes in the system?

09 May 14:23 #

@vk913092: first of all, this is not a loophole, they directly violated the rules.
Secondly, as with the laws, there is the spirit of the law. Here, too, there is the spirit of the rules, it is clear what the meaning of the game is, but do you want stuffy kilometer-long rules that would exclude any cunning people who do not want to play as intended?

virus-sna

09 May 23:57 #

@dkarnov: People play for fun, not to follow the rules. Violating the rules of the game does not harm anyone and does not affect literally anything in the players' lives. Violation of the laws carries 1) harm to someone else, 2) responsibility for the violator. We live by the laws, because this is a social contract, it's a matter of morality and responsibility. And we play games based on our fans. Relax a little, please, it's okay, no one got hurt. It's literally an entertaining show.

11 May 00:31 #

@virus-sna: Did I say somewhere that it wasn't fun or was it bad? Or that it hurt someone?
I'm saying it's not a loophole, it's a violation of the rules of the game. And that there is a meaning to the game, so there is no need to invent kilometer-long stuffy rules.
And friends can also come up with their own rules for fun and play by them.
So hear exactly what I wanted to say, and don't make it up for me.

vk913092

11 May 18:28 #

@dkarnov: First of all, my dear smartass, I didn't say a word about the series. Reread it, maybe you'll see. My thought was about finding gaps in the rules.
Secondly, yes, I want stuffy rules. I want to know what can and cannot be done. Within the framework of the game, of course. If the rules don't say that you can't punch a person in the face, I won't do it anyway.
Anticipating the thought that I'm stuffy and no one likes them in board games. But it's not. First of all, I have fun, and I have different companies, somewhere to sit on the chill, forget about a couple of rules, and somewhere to suffocate in every mechanic.
I remind you, I didn't say a word about the series :)

04 May 12:19 #

And in Russia, all alcohol since the age of 18, except vodka? Something new

imissussimi

04 May 13:03 #

I'm in the world of extroverts.:

99nightmares

04 May 14:10 #

I will also support Anton. Even if we consider the option that the "cat" is not a direct clue, then it definitely does not apply to Moscow. Ars tried to make a "Sea Battle" out of the game, thereby destroying the very idea of the game.
As Anton correctly said, do not try to.It's funny how some of Arseny's direct hints flew by, with the loss of all the chips.
If the guys had thought about a strategy instead of cheating, it would have been more interesting and they might have won. Seryozha talked a couple of times about the strategy of not putting all the chips in a pile, it would at least help to hold out longer.
Thanks to Anton, that at least someone follows the rules of the game and speaks out.

mari_zem

04 May 14:39 #

Air it out, please....

How can you play here without cheating? !
Everyone has their own color perception. Plus, they all sit from different angles and the light fell on everyone. This also affects perception...
and remember the meme with the dress...Everyone sees their own shade.
It's not really possible to play straight without hints.
On the contrary, it was interesting to see how they would dodge to cheat.
And Anton didn't get enough sleep, it seems, and that's why he ruins all the tricks...

09 May 14:26 #

@mari_zem: They call colors differently, but they see them the same way. With a dress, this is an incorrect example, there is a different topic.
Therefore, no, it can be played and won, not even by artists or designers. They just didn't have much desire, and they also had money. It would be better without categories, it would be easier.

mari_zem

09 May 17:59 #

@dkarnov: I disagree. But it's useless to argue.

meowkissme

04 May 14:50 #

On the one hand, I understand that Ars's hints were head–on and against the rules (the exception is the cat), but Anton annoyed me by explaining it for the whole hour. It should be easier to treat, especially when you play as a team.

It seems to me that for controversial points it is necessary to call the game masters, such as lamps in a Loud Question, so that they can already decide whether this is cheating or not.

virus-sna

04 May 15:21 #

It's good to play by the rules, but the rules are never that clear—cut if you think about them carefully. I see zero reasons not to look for loopholes, especially when it comes to an entertainment show. So I'm still on the side of Ars and Dima, and "endless desert sunset" is a brilliant clue.

adrienna

04 May 15:29 #

I like that they always banter Seryozha for his victories and good luck, but at the same time they always vote for him themselves :)))

05Jane

04 May 16:03 #

Shast pissed me off a bit. Well, it's impossible to win this game without hints. but even with their perception of colors, of course, she just screamed out loud, then Thanos was repainted in blue, then he was washed. Sarah and the cat were sitting in tears laughing.

x0m1ak

04 May 20:54 #

Well, it's more interesting for me to look at the endless sunset and the cat star than at dushnina Shasta.
Here I also look at 2 camps, the public is divided, ready to kill and take advantage of those who disagree with their sensitive perception and opinion.
It's about the game. The colors are complicated, and you can't guess them at all without hints. And we should at least put them in different places, not all in one place.

09 May 14:30 #

@x0m1ak: Well, I personally don't understand those who claim that they didn't break the rules. Violated.
Was it interesting to watch? It was.
And so this game can be won. And if you also remove the categories, the problems would probably be on Arse only.

vk913092

05 May 00:18 #

The game is disgusting, I would never play such a game in my life. Why did the organizers think it was a cool idea? Reasons:
1) Color perception can vary from person to person. (Don't forget about the various forms of color blindness, some people don't even know about their problem at 45)
2) The color may look different depending on the lighting
3) There is ONLY ONE color on the card, according to the rules, you can't even compare it with the palette in order to get a feel for it.
4) One of the main problems is the color on a black background. This can greatly change his understanding, compared to the palette on the field.
Well, you can't build a game like that. There are a lot of interesting games that are based on the feelings of the participants, but this one... It would be better to play the fool.

callmeliddvv

05 May 04:00 #

the game is great, I wanted to play. The cat star and the endless sunset are cool suggestions, I want to sit and think about what the person has made a wish for, and it doesn't come right away.

callmeliddvv

05 May 04:00 #

Anton is already annoyed by the second issue

lin_malvo

05 May 14:45 #

I think at least about coming of age, Shast is one hundred percent right, what's the interest then anyway, you can play naval combat, so we fucked up :)

Aahz7

06 May 02:05 #

I'm ready to catch a bunch of haight and cons.
This season is currently the worst in the history of tabletime.
1) The guys openly pirate other people's games, without specifying the original authors or even trying to hide it. Hues & cues looks exactly the same, and the rules are very, very similar. It is especially paradoxical to see this when the Stat at the last concert spoke out that making improfandom merch without permission is copyright infringement. Moreover, he did it very unflatteringly 🥲
2) In previous seasons, the competitive element kept everyone from trying to cheat the system. Here, Arseny pushes his point of view, Dima and Seryozha support him, and Anton is forced to be one against three and cannot stand it.
The original rules of the game from the last issue say that you should not count to yourself, this loses the whole point.

Asochnikova23

07 May 11:55 #

Of course, it 's clear that they play as a team , but still, as for me, it 's better to play honestly , if everyone was on their own , everyone would have been strangled a long time ago .

yulialik

10 May 23:29 #

It's a difficult game. Everyone perceives shades differently. I immediately remember how my mother and I look at something and argue whether it is black or closer to gray, blue or turquoise. Moreover, the shade on a black background is perceived differently, plus lighting. I think at least it was possible to trim the field by shades to make it easier. And the guys didn't even agree on the strategy of throwing chips. There's nothing to talk about.

vampironok666

11 May 10:42 #

It would be better to think about a strategy, agree on some meanings, rather than endlessly arguing about what is possible and what is not, and not just trying to deceive the system. It didn't help much anyway) I think we lost fairly, because we didn't try to win))

Auryn

Yesterday, 19:31 #

The game is challenging, but interesting

I didn't understand why the guys put one chip at the end of the game, if according to the rules of the game you need to put at least three

The words infinity, eternity and cat are not against the rules, because they do not begin with the same letter as the color range. So it's according to the rules.

imissussimi