@curlywurly: I've been reading it for a long time, and I don't remember the accident either. For some reason, the events of the second one are the worst in my memory. But... I mean, in general, compared to other similar film adaptations. No, it's just some kind of wild shit. So far, everything fits smoothly into the plot.
@curlywurly: me three, so to speak, I also don't remember the accident in the second book (and in the third, too)... I've already scrolled through it all over again, but I don't see anything like that. It's scary now, I thought I'd just wait ||for the photos with the teacher to be drained /|, but Amazon added nerves
@aulunni: I just watched the first season about 3 weeks ago, and then I started reading books, now I'm finishing the third one. The accident is really not in the books, but here it is very appropriate and causes drama. The moment under the spoiler, I think, will be the bridge to the third season (either at the end of this one, or the beginning of the third one).
I don't even want to say anything, except HOW GREAT DAMIAN PLAYED IN THIS EPISODE!! So much despair, pain, numbness, anger, pleading — just the whole range of emotions, and everyone on the verge felt this sadness and sorrow throughout the series, and the soundtrack with a female voice added to the atmosphere of devastation. The scene where Ruby comforted James is both beautiful and painful. He clung to her so much, she was so necessary to him, and the way he asked her to stay and said he needed her, I couldn't leave, honestly. They broke it into a thousand pieces with their emotions .
P.S. The parallel with the way Ruby held him, with the moment when he held her in the first season, just aaaaaaaaa
Well, the second season! They messed up the accident)) In general, I was very annoyed by the fact that Damian was shown dressed only once in the entire series, although I'm not complaining. He plays great, but Harriet doesn't look happy at all, maybe she's just not my actress, but I don't believe her. Plus, there are questions about why James has nudity with Ruby on the wallpaper. His business, of course)
I'm watching the series as someone who hasn't read a book yet, and what I can say is that I didn't expect there to be such an angst right in the first episode, even though the first season ended. For me, the episode was pretty slow, probably because I somehow lacked some kind of movement that was in season 1. I don't want to give any ratings after the 1st episode, but I liked the 1st episode of the 1st season and remembered it much more. I really want to celebrate Damian's game, to see how the hero is just broken - and you believe him, but it's very difficult to play this. But I was cut off by his words when he told Ruby, "I just lost control" of what happened in the pool. Well, I'm sorry, if you lose control every time (And James is an impulsive boy), then sometimes you have to realize that nothing good awaits you next to such a person, despite all your feelings.
I'll probably express an unpopular opinion, but what can I do? I liked the series only because of Damian's acting. He's just amazing at playing his role. Unfortunately, I did not see any progress in the performance of the actress playing the role of Ruby at all. Since the first season, she's been acting in such a way that I've just lost interest in her as a character. In contrast to Damian's acting, Harriet simply underplays very much. I don't know, maybe her character is just spelled out in such a way that emotions other than tears are expressed the same way, or facial expressions are just stingy. I hoped it would be better in the second season, but no. Unfortunately, I don't believe her game at all. As for the plot of the first episode, it's very trivial and it played a cruel joke for me too. Maybe I'm just too old for this kind of series. I don't know. Or I'm thinking too rationally. That's what I mean... Many moments of Ruby's mental anguish were incomprehensible to me. You know your boyfriend, you love him. Then he does something stupid, and instead of grabbing his hand and figuring out why he's doing this and why he needs to sleep it off, she cries and runs away. It's such a commonplace of teen movies and TV shows that it's already sad. The moment when Ruby came to James' room, knowing that his mother had died and that he had simply lost his mind, started so well, but ended with some kind of wild game. Again. Ruby, you know what happened in his family, you see that his room is full of pills and bottles, you saw, you yourself decided to come to him after learning about the tragedy. And when you see the message from the left woman, you abruptly remember that it hurts you the most here and leave him, even though he asks you not to leave. Instead of having a dialogue with him. If you weren't sure you could suppress your resentment, you shouldn't have come to him at all. Maybe rationality is speaking in me again. But, I believe that in a healthy relationship it should be like this. Although, what am I talking about. Their relationship is clearly unhealthy. Alas.
Anyway, for now I'm just watching to admire Damian's acting. Thanks a lot for that, and I hope he comes out as an actor on the big screens. He deserves it.
@Drunk_Fox: What kind of dialogue is there when he's in this state? I should have either not come at all (as you said), or supported them in silence until the end, and then found out everything, at least a couple of weeks after the funeral. and it's even more reasonable not to get involved with a person who is determined to self-destruct.
@Drunk_Fox: You described my thoughts about this series very accurately, too adolescent and hyperbolized emotions, this does not happen in life, for psychologically normal people, of course
I want to mention Damian's great acting, you believe him every scene, he's just great. And I really began to like Lydia, just such a beautiful girl. I never got around to books, so I really like the series and how it's developing.
Lydia was revealed so smartly, even by the end of the first season, and now she's a bun, so much bullying from her father, pregnancy, a secret affair, the death of her mother, and she's holding on.
I won't write much about the consolation scene, everything has already been written for me, I agree with everything. She roared with them.
The way Damian shows James grieving for his mother is just amazing. You can literally feel all the pain, regret, and guilt he carries inside him. Ruby is so strong because I would have definitely given up if James Beaufort had begged me to stay.
I didn't really understand how events happen in time. James and Ruby spent the night together, the next morning she came to school happy, in the evening of the same day James was at a party, and the next morning they said on the news that James' mother died on Monday, that is, a few days ago, but this was mentioned at the end of last season. so, in theory, the mother died before Ruby and James spent the night together, and he didn't tell her that the mother had died? Or is there something I don't understand?
@Alyadness0: James didn't know his mom was dead until he got home. Dad specifically did not inform him and Lydia, so as not to distract them from the interviews at Oxford. So when James was with Ruby, Mom had already passed away.
And as we've already written in the comments, the time frame in the book is more stretched, so it sometimes looks strange in the series.
I watched it without taking my eyes off the screen! 🙈 The ingenious opening of season 2 — first the most tender scene, the cream, and then ... BAM! Death, grief, parties, scandals and sudden turns (accident, mother's sister).💔
Damian's acting — give the guy an Oscar! 💋 Ruby plays well, but the actress herself doesn't really fit in with Damian. Lydia is a real sweetheart, very strong, has been through a lot and is convincing as an actress.🫦
The references to season 1 are pleasing.❤ The loss of a loved one does not justify James' behavior. Ruby is great for supporting and continuing to move towards success. I agree with James' father — it's strange that his wife's sister has only just appeared. And the father himself — no comments. 😶🌫️
I decided to review season 1 before proceeding to the second one. And after something light and sweet, they fed me glass. I'm disappointed in James. Of course, grief and so on, but he decided to take a destructive path. And Ruby did well to choose herself. To stay with James would be to betray yourself and your aspirations, for the sake of someone who betrayed you without hesitation.
I'm disappointed. The first season was fascinating, there were only 6 episodes, I watched it several times. I could barely stand the first episode of season 2, just snot. It's not glass, it's whining. Although maybe I want a lot from such series?(
I really wish the actress who plays Ruby was at least a little prettier. I can't look at her facial expressions, it's repulsive. I haven't read the book. Maybe it's described in a different way?
@Eugenie1941: There's something like that, and sometimes she cries too much or something, and there's always that look in James' room, as if she's been betrayed and she's offended or found out a terrible secret, that face all the time
Did you notice how my father didn't give a fuck, but when he saw Ruby running away from James' room in tears, he immediately decided to be filled with fatherly love and support, and that's all We are a family He says disdainfully about Ruby and Ophelia (his wife's sister) that they only need money. Although he himself sees only benefits or disadvantages everywhere. It's very depressing and pathetic to live so mundane. I feel very sorry for Lydia and James, and in my opinion they have grown up quite adequate, given the circumstances. Lydia is so flint. There is an idea that this is due to each other's support, like they made a joke about the despot's father and the cuckoo was discharged.
@lerika_urugvay: By the way, yes. He became so caring when Ruby left. Sometimes you won't get a kind word from him, then an attraction of unprecedented kindness.
What Jace did during his grief can't just be understood and forgiven.… It was a very difficult moment when Ruby entered James' room.😭💔 There is a lot of emotion and very cool acting by Damian, bow 🙇🏻♀️🫢
I've been reading the book for a long time, but for some reason I don't remember about the accident.
Why am I watching this, hospade what the fuck is out from under the horse.. They wanted a drama, and they brought kringe, which you can't look at without a facepalm.
I saw last season that Damian is a damn good actor, but this year he will probably finally demonstrate his talent! His grief could literally be felt through the screen, how believably he plays it out.
And I will probably express an unpopular opinion about James' "betrayal." For me, this is exactly the case when it is not only possible to understand and forgive, but also NECESSARY, And what Ruby did seems to me much worse than James' behavior at the party. That is, she found out the truth that his mother had died, saw him in the most broken state (literally at the bottom, she kind of started to comfort him, and then she saw a picture from that girl who, as she already knows, sticks like a burr to James, and is like, "no, let's say goodbye"? It's worse than a stoned kiss, I'm sorry. Especially considering that it wasn't out of the blue, but for a very understandable human reason. Ruby either didn't come at all, or she had to comfort him at least for the rest of that day. And she acted like a dumb kid, putting her feelings above someone else's grief. And yes, it's 90% correct, but not in this particular situation. When James begged her not to leave and said, "I need you," and she replied, "You need help," and ran away—how I screamed with indignation! Of course, he fucking needs help– FROM YOU FIRST! And in order to get any real help from professionals afterwards, she had to be by his side. And actually, it's not surprising that everything ended up the way it ended. Because the only person who could reach James and bring him to his senses chose to feel sorry for himself, rather than someone who was grieving for his dead mother and was clearly out of order.
@tevladka: yes, I agree, I cried with James, she cried too, I thought she understood, saw some pictures and ran away, but you were angry at him, then they explained to you why he was behaving like that, you came yourself, so you understood his behavior, maybe you didn't forgive, but you understood, and left I really condemn her, it's like she hurt him even more, not just him, but all of us, he lost his mother.. the only normal parent, is she stupid, doesn't she know his father? She made him very angry, God forbid, she still expects an apology from him..
@Хосок13: Well, she really acted as selfishly as possible. And as I said, it would have been better if she hadn't come at all, since that kiss meant SO much to her.
Now, about the most bastard character in this series. Thank you for quickly dispelling even the slightest doubt about what kind of asshole Mortimer is. This is when he suddenly remembered that he was a father and hugged a completely broken James. Honestly, I didn't want him to even touch it. And as it turned out, I had every reason to feel these feelings, because to tell my children, "The mother was right. You are one big disappointment" at the funeral of the same mother is the height of cynicism and inhumanity. Even in the first season, I wanted to spit in his face, but in this one, I really wanted to smash him in the face, to be honest! It's been a long time since I've hated parents so much in fiction!
What the!? I'm also one of those people who f*** off Ruby's act. Yes, hospadeeeeee, well, if you've already come to comfort, comfort to the end, let the guy come to his senses, come back to normal, it's obvious that his mother's death broke him, it's not much worse, well, he takes it too close to his heart, he loved his mother too much. Just be with him as a friend, but as a person! And only then, when he gets back to normal, you can sort out your relationship.
I was in awe of the first season, but the first episode of the second was not impressed at all, all the characters and their feelings, problems are exaggerated, of course there is no such thing in normal life, you can always convey emotions through conversation, and not everything that was shown in the first episode. I don't know, I'm disappointed... I don't sympathize with the actions of the heroes at all, will I continue to watch
Well, James was on drugs.. maybe she wouldn't forgive him for that, but first she had to be with him to help him get over the loss, yes it's a shame, but if it was purely a kiss on drugs because of the death of his mother, it certainly doesn't mean that he will do so often.. This is an isolated incident, such grief, and she just left, the only one he needed.. I don't understand her.
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61@curlywurly: me three, so to speak, I also don't remember the accident in the second book (and in the third, too)... I've already scrolled through it all over again, but I don't see anything like that. It's scary now, I thought I'd just wait ||for the photos with the teacher to be drained /|, but Amazon added nerves
P.S. The parallel with the way Ruby held him, with the moment when he held her in the first season, just aaaaaaaaa
In general, I was very annoyed by the fact that Damian was shown dressed only once in the entire series, although I'm not complaining. He plays great, but Harriet doesn't look happy at all, maybe she's just not my actress, but I don't believe her.
Plus, there are questions about why James has nudity with Ruby on the wallpaper. His business, of course)
Damian certainly gave the heat in this episode. 🔥
I really want to celebrate Damian's game, to see how the hero is just broken - and you believe him, but it's very difficult to play this. But I was cut off by his words when he told Ruby, "I just lost control" of what happened in the pool. Well, I'm sorry, if you lose control every time (And James is an impulsive boy), then sometimes you have to realize that nothing good awaits you next to such a person, despite all your feelings.
Unfortunately, I did not see any progress in the performance of the actress playing the role of Ruby at all. Since the first season, she's been acting in such a way that I've just lost interest in her as a character. In contrast to Damian's acting, Harriet simply underplays very much. I don't know, maybe her character is just spelled out in such a way that emotions other than tears are expressed the same way, or facial expressions are just stingy. I hoped it would be better in the second season, but no. Unfortunately, I don't believe her game at all.
As for the plot of the first episode, it's very trivial and it played a cruel joke for me too. Maybe I'm just too old for this kind of series. I don't know. Or I'm thinking too rationally. That's what I mean... Many moments of Ruby's mental anguish were incomprehensible to me. You know your boyfriend, you love him. Then he does something stupid, and instead of grabbing his hand and figuring out why he's doing this and why he needs to sleep it off, she cries and runs away. It's such a commonplace of teen movies and TV shows that it's already sad.
The moment when Ruby came to James' room, knowing that his mother had died and that he had simply lost his mind, started so well, but ended with some kind of wild game. Again. Ruby, you know what happened in his family, you see that his room is full of pills and bottles, you saw, you yourself decided to come to him after learning about the tragedy. And when you see the message from the left woman, you abruptly remember that it hurts you the most here and leave him, even though he asks you not to leave. Instead of having a dialogue with him. If you weren't sure you could suppress your resentment, you shouldn't have come to him at all. Maybe rationality is speaking in me again. But, I believe that in a healthy relationship it should be like this. Although, what am I talking about. Their relationship is clearly unhealthy. Alas.
Anyway, for now I'm just watching to admire Damian's acting. Thanks a lot for that, and I hope he comes out as an actor on the big screens. He deserves it.
I never got around to books, so I really like the series and how it's developing.
I won't write much about the consolation scene, everything has already been written for me, I agree with everything. She roared with them.
A powerful beginning.
Ruby is so strong because I would have definitely given up if James Beaufort had begged me to stay.
And as we've already written in the comments, the time frame in the book is more stretched, so it sometimes looks strange in the series.
The ingenious opening of season 2 — first the most tender scene, the cream, and then ... BAM! Death, grief, parties, scandals and sudden turns (accident, mother's sister).💔
Damian's acting — give the guy an Oscar! 💋
Ruby plays well, but the actress herself doesn't really fit in with Damian.
Lydia is a real sweetheart, very strong, has been through a lot and is convincing as an actress.🫦
The references to season 1 are pleasing.❤
The loss of a loved one does not justify James' behavior. Ruby is great for supporting and continuing to move towards success.
I agree with James' father — it's strange that his wife's sister has only just appeared. And the father himself — no comments. 😶🌫️
I'm disappointed in James. Of course, grief and so on, but he decided to take a destructive path. And Ruby did well to choose herself. To stay with James would be to betray yourself and your aspirations, for the sake of someone who betrayed you without hesitation.
He says disdainfully about Ruby and Ophelia (his wife's sister) that they only need money. Although he himself sees only benefits or disadvantages everywhere. It's very depressing and pathetic to live so mundane.
I feel very sorry for Lydia and James, and in my opinion they have grown up quite adequate, given the circumstances. Lydia is so flint.
There is an idea that this is due to each other's support, like they made a joke about the despot's father and the cuckoo was discharged.
I've been reading the book for a long time, but for some reason I don't remember about the accident.
They wanted a drama, and they brought kringe, which you can't look at without a facepalm.
And I will probably express an unpopular opinion about James' "betrayal." For me, this is exactly the case when it is not only possible to understand and forgive, but also NECESSARY, And what Ruby did seems to me much worse than James' behavior at the party. That is, she found out the truth that his mother had died, saw him in the most broken state (literally at the bottom, she kind of started to comfort him, and then she saw a picture from that girl who, as she already knows, sticks like a burr to James, and is like, "no, let's say goodbye"? It's worse than a stoned kiss, I'm sorry. Especially considering that it wasn't out of the blue, but for a very understandable human reason.
Ruby either didn't come at all, or she had to comfort him at least for the rest of that day. And she acted like a dumb kid, putting her feelings above someone else's grief. And yes, it's 90% correct, but not in this particular situation. When James begged her not to leave and said, "I need you," and she replied, "You need help," and ran away—how I screamed with indignation! Of course, he fucking needs help– FROM YOU FIRST! And in order to get any real help from professionals afterwards, she had to be by his side. And actually, it's not surprising that everything ended up the way it ended. Because the only person who could reach James and bring him to his senses chose to feel sorry for himself, rather than someone who was grieving for his dead mother and was clearly out of order.
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maybe she wouldn't forgive him for that, but first she had to be with him to help him get over the loss, yes it's a shame, but if it was purely a kiss on drugs because of the death of his mother, it certainly doesn't mean that he will do so often.. This is an isolated incident, such grief, and she just left, the only one he needed.. I don't understand her.
Every time, such a crazy facial expression is the same annoying thing.
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