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113In general, I just want Connie to be happy without this infantile Belle.
Even before watching it, there was team Conrad, but what is it anyway?
What's wrong with Belly? I've never liked Jeremiah, so I'm not surprised by his behavior, but what's with Conrad? Belli doesn't deserve him, and even if they do, I don't understand how... just free Konrad and give him a quiet life, and isolate Belli from the world.
Although I agree with Lauren that it's too early to get married at that age, but they behave quite adult: they got a job, save up for a wedding, support each other. Apart from that "betrayal", I like their relationship, it's clear that they both invest in it.
It's like they didn't just throw in that Jer is glad that Belli won't go to Paris (and Conrad is "better", he wouldn't have acted so selfishly), but in fact it doesn't match Jer's character at all, it just feels like it was added only to further develop the conflict. and to show Conrad on the good side.
And Lauren... Yes, I understand perfectly well how she doesn't want Belle to make mistakes, how she projects her failures on her, but can I help her choose a dress? Refuse to be at the wedding? It's very selfish.
words, the scriptwriters didn't even try to come up with a normal reason for the breakup? Since when has Jer been such a drama queen and so easily put an end to a relationship aaaaaa
they just need reasons for characters to break up 🤬
At this point, I almost wanted to scream out loud : "Run, Connie baby, run!!"
I liked the series from the point of view of what the relationship with moms showed: Belle + mom (a difficult relationship where they can't come to a compromise, flashbacks to childhood), in parallel, Taylor and mom (she goes to choose a dress for Belle, in some ways wayward, but Taylor refuses the internship for the sake of her well-being, they're one family anyway)
at the same time, there are parallels with the fact that Belli refuses to travel to be with Jerome, and Conrad refuses to work when he sees Belli crying💔
in short, some kind of warmer series on all fronts
, but the feeling that such decisions will backfire for everyone, at least, Tay has lost a good chance for the future, and so has Conrad
, and perhaps this is about not always sacrificing yourself for your loved ones? or vice versa, what is needed? There is probably no correct answer.
We are inevitably waiting for Bella and Conrad to get closer, because they will be alone in the same house for almost the whole week
, God, I still can't imagine how they should be connected after 4 years of meeting Bella with Jerome and practically getting married.🥴
It's gotten warmer in this episode somehow. The way Stephen supported Jer throughout the series is a real balm to my soul! Laurel was also pleased by her saying to Belle, "how could you force me to say this to Jeru and let him down" - this phrase is unfair to Belle, but it still showed Laurel's love for Jeru. Hooray, everyone is finally treating him better!
Well, and Conrad) This friend can be charming when he tries. I understand why Belle fell in love at the time. And why now, apparently, she began to slowly recall her former feelings. Well, if she hasn't started, then she'll definitely start in the next episode. But Conrad does not know how to maintain this state. Sooner or later, he will sail away into his private world again.
P. S. I still love Jer more, and I always will.💞🥰 But still, I would prefer that he and Belli break up simply because I want to set him free.
Laurel is partly right, getting married so early, before you know yourself, may be a mistake. And it's about both of them, and they're fixated on each other.
Well, honestly, it would have been better if the last season had been shorter, but we would have tried to improve the quality. The script, the acting, the plot, everything.
That's it, I'm done whining. Just relax in this life, apart from alcohol, there is not much. And they even deprive you of that, instead they slip you a purse.
why not wait a year and go to Paris for an internship, save up enough money and have a wedding in a year?
Yes, because it's a TV series
, Belle's father is a good man
. I really miss Suzanne.
The first and second seasons were so pleasant. The second one is more dramatic, of course, but it still looked easy. I wanted to watch it non-stop, but after 3X02 the desire disappeared altogether
the way he (in the previous episode) ordered the cheapest dish on the menu when Laurel said she would pay for lunch…
The way he was about to leave, but he saw Belly crying, so he called Jer and agreed to be a witness. I cheered Belly up this morning. I also baked these donuts... 😭
"Well, it means a lot to have your support. To Jere and... to me." 💔
You don't feel sorry for this couple at all, and it's not interesting to watch them, just like Taylor and her mom.
Belle is almost ready to cry and get hysterical, she is absolutely not ready to make all these adult decisions. give up a semester in Paris?? For what? She was literally starting to lose herself and her future in this relationship, just as Laurel had feared, and she hadn't even married him yet. And the way Jeremiah didn't try to talk her out of it and was like, "Oh, are you sure, okay, I don't want you to leave anyway?" is typical of his behavior
, but of course I'm looking forward to the next episode, it looks in one go. still, I really love this series, even though sometimes I have to scold it. 🩵
It's already season 3, and the emotion is the same, as if
He would be more than fine with me.💔
Just to finish watching
What was done with the characters
Do the characters change in Book 3 as well?
(I've only read the 1st and half of the 2nd)
It has long been possible to understand that the series is not entirely serious (to put it mildly), and you either enjoy it or do not torment yourself.
All three seasons, I can't look at Kony properly, my heart is in pieces. I just want to hug him and finally make him happy.
In general, the further I look, the more all the characters infuriate.
It seems that there will be something between Stephen and his colleague. 🤔
So, Maeby. I'm sad for Taylor, though. :(
It's funny how from a pleasant non-stressful series, this case has practically descended into a heightwatch. I'm finishing this cactus on principle.
Jer is getting more and more upset... And I want to wish Konrad happiness...and maybe not with Belly...
At the same time, I'm reviewing the first two seasons at the same time and I notice a lot of red flags in Jera. Konrad is so responsible, he always takes care of everyone, it was just hard for him to carry all this burden alone. Now I absolutely understand his behavior, however, it's a pity that only now I realized that Tim Conrad is right.
, so let them get married! they will run away in the end - everyone makes mistakes, but there is always an opportunity to work on them. If they don't run away, it's cool, which means they're very lucky to have each other.
But what's the point of pushing? It only makes the situation worse. Belly's father is the only adequate adult.
There are moments that I was touched and liked, but mostly I felt a twinge from the way the plot moves. In many ways, I stop believing the characters. I also feel less like rooting for Belli and Conrad's team, because lately I've been thinking more and more that Belli doesn't deserve Conrad as his endgame, or rather, Conrad deserves someone who will treat him more carefully than Belli, someone who will be calm, and not It's a dumb drama and you don't know what. I sincerely want to see Conrad happy. He is one of the few characters who really grows up, learns to admit his mistakes and works on himself, and from the very beginning of the series, other characters (including Belli) somehow scoff at him and call him an egoist, a "guy with a cold heart" and all that. Tired of it!
The pool scene when Belli and Jeremiah ridiculed Conrad's words, mimicking him in general is disgusting on all fronts. Why the series needed her is unclear. I just pushed Bella and Jeremiah away from me, making them look bad, let's just say.
In general, I don't believe in Jeremiah and Belle's motives, and I don't believe in their interactions, because we didn't have time to get into this couple either in the series or in the book. Besides, I just can't believe that Belle shouted to Conrad, "We're breaking up!" because of a little thing at the prom (although Conrad needed support then, not a dramatic scandal from scratch), and Jeremiah, who cheated on her twice in one night, she forgave quickly, she agreed to marry him, and then decided again to abandon the trip to Paris in order not to part with him.
And now I'm not trying to exalt Conrad against the background of Jeremiah's mistake, we just really weren't allowed to see why Belle so easily forgave the betrayal, but rather faced with the fact that Jeremiah cheated "just because" and was forgiven "because it was necessary." It's kind of ridiculous.
Either gg's acting has gotten worse, or it's designed that way, no one has any connection.
First, she sees that there is an understatement between Conard and Belli, and she does not want the marriage to be a mistake if her daughter's heart remains with someone else. And considering that they are brothers, even if she divorces Jeremiah later and chooses Conrad, it will be awkward.
Secondly, she sees how impulsive and frivolous Jeremiah is. For this reason, he doubts his sincerity. He offered Belle an engagement to make amends for cheating on her.
I think the biggest scenario convention is the disapproval of the wedding by the parents. Like, why is there such a confrontation? Well, yes, the cunts are in a hurry, they clearly decided to get married on the spur of the moment. But is this decision really going to ruin their lives? It would be enough to express concern and disapproval, and then support, as any normal parent would do. Moreover, the kids are exemplary, they study / work, they don't want to get married out of hand, they don't require a cutlet of money for the wedding, after all, they have been dating for 3 years already. And the reaction of the parents is as if Belle is a little girl who is getting married to a 50-year-old convict who is serving a twenty-year sentence.
Conrad is a separate conversation. The character is so beautifully written. A typical "man who can only be written by a woman." Handsome, smart, loyal and kind as a dog. Moreover, he is so good that the main character already falls short with her throwing. Especially now, I can't imagine their rapprochement, which will necessarily entail the betrayal of her second brother, whom Belli is actually going to marry.
In short, give Konrad to that sweet redhead, to whom he pours his soul, he deserves someone caring.
PS: now I want to read a book
Everything related to the family's relationship to their wedding is fully justified.
Laurel is absolutely gorgeous.
In general, I am delighted with her reaction, because she constructively tells them: I think it's wrong just because you are children. You are still studying at the university. You can take the next step: you can move in together, get a cat. Take your time. Marriage is a serious decision, don't take hasty steps.
She says everything adequately and does not forbid her daughter to do it. She told her straight out: if you want to, you can do it, but I just don't want to participate in it, I won't come to your wedding.
Laurel definitely shouldn't step over herself to make her daughter feel good if she disagrees with this opinion, which she explained.
This is not Jer's father, who lost his temper and just shouted that: you're so irresponsible.
She bluntly, frankly told the two of them that this should not be the case, you are still young, please wait.
And moreover, she talked to Belle about how she should not focus only on Jerome, that she needed to get to know life, find out what she wanted, what she could be like.
And what is the result? Almost immediately after accepting the offer, Belli refuses Paris, which she has been dreaming about for 20 years.
I am frankly infuriated by Belle's actions. She forgave Jer for cheating. 2 times! I can understand the drunken way he spoke the first time, but the second time, he definitely understood everything.
But she couldn't forgive Conrad for being depressed because of his mother's illness? Seriously?
It was a good thing that she later found some other dress in the closet in the summer house.
And Lauren, of course, is a flint. If I were her, I would have softened during Jeremiah's speech, but we decided to show her a typical Asian parent, albeit an Americanized one.
In general, the situation is complicated. I still think that their idea of a wedding is purely a whim of stupidity, but on the other hand, I was very sorry for Bella that the most dear and important person does not support her and refuses even to attend the wedding. Although the fact that she noted the trip to Paris is already a wake-up call. After all, the fact that an offer has been made does not mean that it is necessary to organize a wedding right away. Really, finish your studies, let Belly go to Paris, and Jeremiah save up money, but no.. We need to do it right now. That 's the only way and no other way 🤦🏻♀️
So Conrad... have I been feeling sorry for him all this season? Because it's really impossible to look at him. The way he finally got over himself when he heard Belle's tears and agreed, just to improve her mood, damn…
It really pisses me off that neither Jeremiah nor Belly wants to see why he's acting like this. Like they're pretending that Belli hasn't met him. Who the hell wants to be best man at an ex's wedding? Especially if the groom is your own brother. The fact that Conrad still loves her is obvious to everyone except those involved in this drama. 🤨
But congratulations are mutual))
the triangle, the behavior of the parents, how boring everything is going ...
And it seems Stephen will not have Taylor, but Denis from work)
It's easy to save up for a wedding when you live with a parent who feeds you, but just as you decided to run away from your mom during a quarrel, there's nowhere to go. I agree with Laurel that the idea of a wedding is nonsense, but it's a pity that she's so inflexible and assertive. Belli's dad told her correctly that the more pressure she put on, the more Belli would do everything in spite of herself, perhaps it was possible to gently explain to her why the idea was so bad. At least they recently had a fight over some bullshit and broke up, Jer was so worried that instead of calling Belle and discussing it, he slept with someone else. And now he's so confident, well, it's a joke)
Poor Bella, Jer has a part of the trust fund. At a minimum, you need to think about a prenuptial agreement BEFORE the wedding. Or then share it all.
Naturally, parents will have to support the family. They have nowhere and nothing to live on.
They both have to finish their studies at 20 thousand per semester.
* Jer is childish, cheerful as the sun, but knows how to notice the subtle notes of what Belle loves: a neat ring, an oreo cake, house keys.
But he has not yet matured into a conscious relationship. He's still growing up.
* Kon is too melancholic and full of himself (don't forget how he always shouted to Belly "grow up!!!" and how he behaved last season..). But it adds depth to his feelings.
And Laurel was right-Belle wasn't ready yet.: she doesn't understand herself (what's the point of how she sticks to Kon's appearances?). Teenage impetuosity, alas, is like that. It makes sense to get married after 27, somewhere where you realize your vector in life in general.
imho: being with any of the brothers is for Belly kringe.
How awkward are these situations of "I'm with you, but I was with your brother" and it works even if she's with Jerome, even with Con.
I hope she still goes to Paris and finds a Parisian handsome man there, and we are transported to the story of "Emily Belli in Paris."
house and I was wondering how.
and in this one they give her the keys to that house.
🤷🏼♀️