@exluminuxis: What a protest, my God, it's so expensive) You wouldn't have blocked people who disagree yet, and you'd get more, and you could set a record then.
@exluminuxis: Interestingly, there is not a single mention of this series in any of your social networks. I'm not sure if you actually watched it —you could, for example, just read a summary of the episodes "for context." I think all this is just a comment byte for an insecure person.
With your youthful maximalism (18 years old, heh, I'm already jealous) this is quite normal, somehow even zero complaints. But blocking and disliking (taking advantage of the fact that you can't be blocked now) is somehow, ahem, unsportsmanlike :)
I sincerely wish you to stop "crying, stabbing, but continue to chew the cactus" — and start commenting only on those series that you like.
@chet_alex: I'm curious, by what principle did you decide that you found my social networks? by nickname? even if May shows hidden social networks, and there is only one - and another date.
and anyway) since the consumers of shit don't carry authority for me, his opinion is a funny set of letters for me. It's just ridiculous that you decided to put some emphasis on age, but whose age is it? He's beautiful, I agree) I would proudly wear the sign "I was born in 2007" if, in this case, the baggage of the background had not evaporated along with other years with:
you can always block anyone, even here you are critically mistaken. Grandpa, maybe pills?
I feel like a dumb Carol talking to you, and you're Roy. I am free to comment on what I want and how I want, limited only by the rules of the site < 3
There's nothing to write about this series - it's a dummy. but I wrote on social networks about the target audience of this series based on the comments in this application/website.) THIS is much more interesting hehe
What a terrible moment when everyone abruptly stopped singing after the girl's transformation and just moved on. Goosebumps already. And that little goat, which will most likely turn out to be someone's dinner.… Sadly.
@mr_windy: It's really a very cool scene - it perfectly shows the whole essence of these sectarians. Immediately at the moment of the "conversion" they stopped singing, packed up their things, and left the city. There's nothing left in the world anyway, they've destroyed another culture.
In general, in this series, this moment, which is at the end with Zosia, perfectly shows the danger of the "virus".
@mr_windy: Yes, I also noticed her. Plus, I'm curious to know something about the song that the girls sang during the ceremony. In what circumstances was it performed by the people before: funeral, wedding, birth?
They gave her an atomic bomb after all! It wasn't perfect, but it turned out to be a pretty good ending. The meeting between Carol and Manousos and all their scenes did not disappoint - in general, Manousos is a cool guy (even when he was shouting in Rick's face), I hope he will decipher the waves and find a solution.
By the way, he reminded Carol from the first episode of the same desire to fix the situation. But Carol was completely relaxed, funny when she talked about love, "you're mine.." Zosa, in general, the scenes with Zosia are great as always, I can't stop being awesome at how they manipulate. But it's good that Carol found out about the frozen cells and is now in the "get a girl, save the world" mode.
Great series, Ray Seahorn is very good, see you in 2 years
@kobiii: Their interactions (Carol and Manusosa) It's just crazy!! I got carried away with "su telefono? please😁" really, I was a little like that at first 🤨🤨🤨 when he said let's kill everyone
@kobiii: I think it's very unwise to leave an atomic bomb next door to the house where you live, because at some point the collective mind decides that it's time to renegotiate the agreement.
@skagerrak: perhaps this is her plan - to take herself hostage and blow herself up if they harass her. you set the timer to auto-open, and the device is nearby - to extend the timer, you need, for example, to crush a bug (!!!) and you crush it every day. if you are "repainted", then you will not be able to kill the bug and the timer will work. Success!
@hooligan174: The code? there is no code. to avoid an explosion, it is necessary to kill a bug in a special gadget above the bomb! alive) but they can't
@FokaPossum: It's not a matter of scarcity, but of catching a new one every day and putting it somewhere else, and then killing it. And some kind of device must react to this. What happens if you poison a bug and it dies by itself within an hour? I think they'll do it for themselves. Until they build some couple of dozen meters of concrete around the bomb. That's why I have little idea how to implement this whole idea in real life. We need more thoughtful details in the plan)
@kobiii: I still don't understand what the meaning of this bomb is. They can always get out of there pretty quickly — this has already been demonstrated. Well, yes, someone will die, so they seem to treat it quite normally, without much suffering. That is, how Carol can "blackmail" them is also not very clear. It's more like when you get an MRI scan, they give you a pear, like, it's going to be scary, squeeze it, but in fact you never need it, just the feeling that you have such a thing should be soothing. But Carol, with her paranoia, should understand that. Moreover... well, where are the guarantees that this bomb works at all? Is she a bomb expert? And it seems to me that blowing it up is not an easy task either. In general, it is a purely symbolic gesture...
@GreenHedgehog: A completely useless piece of crap to surprise an inexperienced viewer, an atomic bomb! wow! considering where Albuquerque is located, in the ass of the world, where these bombs are already being tested, no one gives a shit that Albuquerque will blow away, and she could have killed herself easier by digging a hole next to her beloved friend, but... the scriptwriters were not brought into this series...
@GreenHedgehog: by the way, yes, about the bomb, it turns out that it is technically impossible to transport it by helicopter in a container and store it in your yard - radio radiation, the risk of vibration and explosion, and other problems. for some reason, it seemed to me that Vince Gilligan was meticulous about such facts and attentive to the little things. But he still gave the atomic bomb to Carol.
@direwolf312: so no one ruled out radiation and the risk of explosion) here, apparently, the point is that they could not refuse Carol, taking into account these risks.
@direwolf312: the question is not that they put it on some technical issues, it can be forgiven, the question is for what? for the sake of another dead-end wishlist? For the sake of pun, is the ending a bomb?
@vladimir_che: obviously as a guarantee against handling, according to the principle of a dead hand. If you're stumped by such simple questions, it's better to actually watch something else.
@trux: I mean, if a drone arrives with a bucket of virus, will she detonate an atomic bomb? Don't you think that's dumb? is it even dumber to puff out your cheeks in this place, as if this is some kind of very complicated thought? It wouldn't hurt to watch something else.
@direwolf312: Maybe this is the smallest atomic bomb, we don't know yet. It is clear that this is not a Topol-M or Sarmatian installation. Technically, 50 kg is enough, as I read, for a charge, but how to launch it so that it flies is something else entirely.
@kobiii: Is he a cool guy?.. He's a nutcase. If I were Carol, I would have shamed him... Crazy reel. It doesn't matter that they're not really human. He's killing millions in those minutes. And he screams like a psycho. And it's not clear at all who he called on the radio. Fuck, in general. Very annoying from the very beginning. Someone is looking for, trying, all to no avail.
@fleurt: I don't take offense at the comments, on the contrary, I respect them, but I block just for the dumb minuses of everything around, as you can see, you can write comments to me, but the fact that the minuses cut you off))
Over the course of 9 episodes, we were shown how Carol Sturka is a psychoemotionally immature, impulsive person, unable to control herself even in front of a small group of "untouchables" (which she assembled herself), pouring alcohol until she blacked out in front of them, and not ready to understand what she ultimately wants to achieve. At the same time, she tends to haunt those who are happy with the current situation.
The highlight, of course, was episode 8, where Carol was initially outraged when she realized that the renovated cafe was a scene played out for her, and in the evening of the same day she happily bought into the scene with a different entourage, limp from a woman who was exactly the same GG of her romantic fiction. And here it is worth paying tribute to the authors, because it was comical to watch Carol appear in literally the same light as the readers who are prone to escapism through her books, whom she arrogantly and disdainfully muddles at the beginning of the season, and by the end forgets about her dead spouse and the apocalypse thanks to a mini-honeymoon with the hero of her own dreams in the flesh.
As a result, the only sobering factor becomes the awareness of impending death (which, in fact, is the merger with Highmind). But even that only leads to a shift in focus to a new game: "Now I'm saving the world with you, Manusos, and not playing out a romantic arc with my pirate," and to the explosive hypertrophy of her fragile ego, as we see from the fake (quantitative, but not qualitative) growth of the character from "bring me a grenade." before "bring me the atomic bomb."
Given the above, it is clear that the audience who are impressed by the character of Carol Sturka is the same kind of berry as those who, say, are running around with Patrick Bateman, who is now popular in memes, impressed by the spectacular antics, but deaf to the essence of the audience.
@id972349034: I agree with what you wrote about her. But impressive is not quite the right word. Evokes sympathy, yes. The most dramatic moments of her biography are presented as if between words, but after that it is no longer possible to perceive her as a flighty hysterical woman who does not know what she wants and is furious out of the blue. It becomes clear how lonely and unhappy this person is, how hard it was for her to trust the world in general and people in particular, how much she lost with Helen's death, how much she fears being rejected. And where did she get this tendency to escape to fictional worlds? That is, she's not perfect, but that's how she is, and her behavior is understandable. There are also other immune systems. Towards the end, Manusos started scaring me. At first, he was such a touching survivalist and a Don Quixote with principles. A self-appointed healer who rushes bare-assed to save humanity in a yellow ambulance. And in the end, the holy Inquisition begins to appear in him. Unlike Carol, he is religious, and it also shows between the lines, but I think it's very important. Carol's throwing is somehow closer to me than fighting aliens (the devil) for souls by physically destroying bodies.
@id972349034: I also completely misunderstood this constant behavior of Carol in the spirit of bipolar. and in episode 1 of season 2, will she reset to zero again and love them all when Zosia does something to please her again? x) even somehow... I didn't expect Gilligan to write such a character. here, neither the context of "I am a legend" really fits (I'm talking about a story, not a movie), nor another transformation from an anti-hero to a villain. because gg is just some kind of thing here... a hysterical alcoholic woman who despises her own LIVING readers and people in principle, while so eager to save humanity. and then not thirsty. and then thirsty again. some kind of fool x)
@innundir_skinni: well, GG is the only complex character in the entire series (Diabate and the others go with the flow, Manusos is categorical and linear), which consists of contradictions, and prescribing it otherwise is deadly for drama.
@svin: Well, personally, I don't find the character of a hysterical alcoholic who constantly contradicts herself difficult in a positive sense. and he behaves the same way, for which he condemns others. Personally, I don't want to sympathize with Mrs. Nothing but annoyance, unfortunately, her behavior does not cause...
@id972349034: I totally agree! The character of Ray Seahorn, in my opinion, has something in common with Kim Wexler from LZS, and there she was also not charming in terms of poise, logic and consistency, but, of course, there is no comparison with Carol Sturka)... He looks like a flint a la Sigourney Weaver, he's about to take a machine gun or sit at the controls of an aircraft carrier, but in fact, just a little bit - and God, God, how bad everything is or how good everything is. These tosses between a tub of champagne and a grenade with fireworks have already become just caricatured.
Carol-Carol.. what does a couple of weeks of solitude and a reliable pluribussi tailored to his desires do to a person? fuck him with the evaporated desire to save the world, but I am saddened by the depth of self-deception to which she descended, imagining that there was something personal and "hers" in such a relationship. and the fact that even the appearance of a lively and active like-minded person was not enough to bring her to her senses.
but manousos is certainly a pleasure to watch. It's funny, but we have not received any confirmation or refutation of the hypothesis that he was part of the highway before the first genocide of Carol.. although the confidence with which he performed his couch exorcism hints that he knows something about the subjective life of the plurbs first-hand. : "I know you're there, and you can remember.". Or maybe he just conducted his interrogation of Zosi with honors . Judging by his books (from the library, very nice), we will see the mentioned Faraday cage next season.
Well, it was nice to theorize in the comments, see you in two years at best :D
@ann_i_am: she folded under zero pressure xD And so, yes, the global neural network manipulated her beautifully. But Manousos, being moderately sociophobic or moralistic, showed her that she had become too accepting of the current situation. Without him, the whole story would have died out in the third month, until they would all have been assimilated. It's not for nothing that all dissenters are quite lonely people, separated from or deprived of close assimilated relatives or loved ones.
@ann_i_am: >hypotheses that it was part of the highway before the first genocide of carol Where can I read more about the hypothesis, how is it Googled? It's not very clear what this assumption is based on, but it would be interesting to read, it's a cool idea.
@nonaems: it is based on the fact that Hywu became aware of the existence of manusos chronologically (episode 3) after Carol caused the first seizure (episode 2), respectively, a jump is made from after to after) The theory is supported by his paranoia, extreme aversion to the food offered, as he knows about its possible origin, and most importantly, his knowledge of the presence of some important frequency that he was looking for and found. plus, he was confident that the connection was reversible, although Zosia could have told him that.. there are plenty of arguments against it too)
A Reddit post with this theory is called I think I know why they discovered Manousos (the paraguayan man) so "late"
My personal feeling is that the ambiguity was left intentionally to give the writers room to maneuver when writing the next season.
@ann_i_am: the theory is not bad, but unfortunately there are a number of contradictions for it. Judging by what is shown: 1. Manusos was fed not with milk with substances, but with ordinary products left in stores, like everyone else. And he did not eat them out of distrust and principles. 2. When he arrives at Carol's, he offers to kill a lot, because he believes that the process is irreversible. It is only after a dialogue with her and Zosia that he conducts his experiment and realizes that people can be saved by drowning out the frequency of their waves.
But that's why he was initially looking for these waves and where he was before that, which was not immediately discovered, is very interesting and leaves questions. I hope the next season starts with a story about him. By the end of it, he was more interesting to watch than Carol's changing shoes.
@NaruHinka: 2. Mm, well, not really about murder and irreversibility. he understands plurbes more as malicious individual entities that have taken over human bodies, and suggests detruire, destroying them, and in the next sentence says "if you can't bring people back as they were, then it's better to kill them." plus, he leaves money on the way, which hints that he has at least some idea in his head that everyone can be "cured."
We have been informed of the fact that it was not immediately discovered. for some reason. if you arm yourself with Occam's razor, then it is simply designed to complement the portrait of manousos - it immediately informs us about his isolation, and is an exposition for the beginning of the next series, explaining why he is locked up because he simply overslept the beginning of the apocalypse while sitting on shift in his cubicle.
I don't know.. in everything that they show and tell us about him, there is a certain degree of fanatical excess. dog food, refusing help, walking through the jungle. Since we don't have any tangible assumptions about how people would actually behave in such a situation, there's no place to start from in assessing the normality of his behavior. therefore, looking at this excess, we can think that it's just his exceptionally principled character, beliefs, faith, soldier's background, unique stubbornness, etc. but if we consider the idea that he was part of the highway, then the manifestations of his intolerance and paranoia are a little easier explained by the fact that he saw some game while hanging out with everyone.. xs, I'm not convinced of this theory myself)
As for the waves, the simplest and most logical assumption is simply to look for other survivors like them. I agree that I would like to know more about his first day. I wouldn't be surprised if the new season starts with flashbacks, from his point of view.
@Balysh: if we assume that he was part of the highway, then he knows that there may be residual traces of human flesh) and if he wasn't, then he doesn't know anything/ didn't know before talking to Zosia. In general, a separate argument against this theory is that if you come to another survivor with this knowledge to plan a fight, then you should ask her from the doorstep if she knows about the compromising diet of these demons, especially noting that she has developed sympathy for them..
@ann_i_am: From the very first days, he refused to eat them only because he was afraid that they would add something demonic to the food and deprive him of his soul, in our opinion, they would turn him. and didn't he later find out from Carol that Roy feeds on human flesh-she sent a note about it to everyone who survived?
@ann_i_am: back then, the Paraguayan could not have known anything at all about the fact that the converts ate human flesh, and they did not seem to feed the remaining people with their own food.
@Balysh: He didn't watch this video. As soon as I heard about the 12 survivors, I immediately started to prick up my ears - these are the 12 apostles, epta! And Carol Sturka is the messiah! And he rushed to the States. He doesn't know about human flesh, or that Carol's messiah is like a bullet out of shit.
@ann_i_am: is it pleasant?.. Why are we all for this psycho? He's inadequate and super weird. He leaves money, bills for the hospital, yells at those infected with the virus.... Like he's trying to save humanity. Yeah. A hero, damn it!
@ann_i_am: in that case, why don't "We" remember the life of Manousos, having a collective memory. It seems to me that if he had been a full-fledged part of the highway, he would have been "recognized" immediately.
It is not clear why they are so ceremonious with the remaining 11 people. Before that, they had transformed all of humanity without asking, while wreaking havoc and many deaths.
@Tom910: They explained that the chaos and many deaths were caused by the transience of the infection due to the activity of the military. And they stand on ceremony because they really can't convert them to stem cell harvesting without their consent.
@ruda4ok: Well, it turns out that between allowing innocent people to die and infecting them, they choose to infect. And now they can't take stem cells?
@Diletant: so there is no need for invasive actions now. The threat from the military was great, the threat from the remaining 11 is considered insignificant.
@uker: so why bother with them in general? Well, there are 12 uncharged ones. Wait until they move the horses without water/food and just ignore/ignore.
@Tom910: They're kind of immune to airborne transmission of the "virus." And now they have to go through the introduction, and this cannot be done without consent to inflict pain.
@Paramelion: It's also not logical, because the girl with the goat was turned into an airborne drip at the beginning of the series. you can fantasize that the vapors were made specifically for her from her cells, but what prevents you from doing the same with the rest of the immune system? as the series has shown, the consent of the immune mind is not required, they will do everything without it and try to convert them.
A story facup is coming out. and if we go further, then Highmind said that he could not lie, but it turns out that they lied when they said that without the consent of the immune cells, cells would not be taken from them and they would not be stripped. well, or the 2nd story facup.
@EnDemion: That girl most likely agreed to her conversion and it was mentioned by "them". Therefore, a "cure" through couples was developed as a priority for her. I don't see any violations of the logic of the series here.
But where I see a violation of logic, but not of the series, but of Carol, is that she can request her eggs immediately and they will have to comply.
@Paramelion: like the process has already started and the information has been received from the cell and it is already "in the head" of the Weirdos. She could only ask to stop the development.
@Garic: Yes, at least something) For example, "bring me to a place where research is being conducted with my material (and then blow it all up), or more simply, demand that all the material related to her be brought to her right away.
@Paramelion: This will also include my most barked comment.: And ruin the whole series with one smart decision? You're crazy. You would also advise Ned Stark to keep quiet...
@id183633125: naturally, except for those that contradict their rules. Like these: 1. Do not harm the living 2. Do not give out information that could kill them and avoid danger or dangerous people.
@EnDemion: they will not carry out a painful procedure without consent, but no one promised not to take the egg cells and consent is not needed, they already exist. Hive doesn't lie, but he keeps silent all the time.
@Tom910: They are programmed to obey and respect those they cannot convert. In theory, this may mean that this virus was invented for remote colonization. It is quite possible that its creators are immune to it, because if they decide to fly to one of these planets, they will be greeted by a completely obedient population that, in principle, does not kill anything alive. That is, ideal slaves who, at the same time, do not consider themselves slaves. They can be assigned any job that is not related to agriculture.
If they had acted more aggressively, they would already be a potential threat to their creators, but a simple "No" is enough to forbid them to convert you if they need stem cells from you.
@arnafas: It's possible, but it seems like a very deep idea. It's not a fact that they'll come to this. So now they will have a problem with food, if you need a pack of slaves, then there would be no problem with food.
I was so touched by the fact that a Peruvian girl, having the opportunity to ask for the whole world and receive all the riches and pleasures, continued to exist in her environment and culture, so simple and pure... And so naively she reached out to this "community", erasing her village, attachment to animals, and culture itself after joining. It was a very creepy and sad scene. And the whole ending is wonderful, but the opening was especially impressive.
@id216265573: Right now we live in a world where nations exist, and cultures are just as joyfully being destroyed in our world. But in that world, this culture will remain forever, as individuals with this culture have integrated into a single whole that will live forever, or until there is not a single person left at all. The funny thing is that there are people in the series who, at the very foundation of their cultures, have the idea that people are one, and not just people, but all living things in general. It's us, people with European culture, who can't understand, but how can it be, it just doesn't fit in our heads. We are the same as the American Carol, who, against the background of the American flag on the plane, tells everyone else, other people from a different culture, that we need to save the world, otherwise it will be bad for everyone! And Manousos is generally a security guard of a warehouse, private property, he is ready to kill for it. That is, he is ready to kill for material things, for him, first of all, the material part of the personality is important, unlike the "weirdos" who honor the idea in the personality, the personality itself. Well, speaking of cultures. We have all been drawn to this community since birth, destroying other cultures. We are a product of this community. We speak Russian and destroy some culture. We're learning English, doing the same thing. And first of all, culture is about people, not houses with baby goats. And in the series, everything seems to be in order with the preservation of identity.
.. And in the series, everything seems to be in order with the preservation of identity. ===== There are no more personalities on Earth except the remaining 12. No.
Actually, looking at @zhizha300's comment: you begin to suspect that the first case of indoctrination of a viewer of the series with the virus of universal happiness has occurred.
@WildBart: Not 12 little Negroes, but 11 already. One little Black boy inhaled the fumes and the whole village was gone. Or maybe even less, they just showed us only the Peruvian woman.
@zhizha300: culture is all about "houses with baby goats." The ability of our species to change the environment in different ways to replace lost instincts. The diversity of cultures as different reservoirs of experience is a safeguard against the consequences of a wrong strategy. If one thing didn't work, the other would. That's what they say when they criticize globalism - it's dangerous to rely on one way of survival, even if it seems very successful. And if we strive for something, it's not a fact that it won't destroy us. Pluribus is precisely the death of culture, they no longer transform anything in order to survive.
@Balysh: pluribus in its current form is generally the death of the species in the near future. His interests are completely subordinated to another form of life. If his immune system doesn't turn the settings of this new organism around so that he doesn't destroy himself by passing the virus on, the body is finished. The virus doesn't care, it doesn't need to kill anyone, the main thing is for it to spread. I turned the settings of any aggression to zero to ensure self-tolerance. And the fact that they will starve to death without aggression - well, it happens, the main thing is that they have time to pass on.
@Diletant: That's the whole joke. I remember the slow episodes of "Better call Saul." Long exposure, sudden discoveries of the plot. All the more interesting
@ruda4ok: I think there will be a lot of action... but towards the end of the second season... or only in the last episode... or it won't be there either.
I liked the ending, even if it doesn't particularly interrupt the general ambiguous impressions of the season. Anyway, 6 of the 9 episodes are fillers with almost no significant developments, that is, exactly two thirds. Fortunately, the last episode didn't turn out that way, although there were real fears that Gilligan was preparing Manousos to appear on Carol's doorstep at the last minute as a "powerful" denouement, which would have been quite in the spirit of previous episodes.
In order for the series to be perceived as really cool, episode 9 had to be the fourth or fifth in the first season, after which Carol and Manousos would save the world in the rest, because their mixing was already in the beginning. But in the final episode, the classic Gilligan finally began to be viewed and the foundation for the future was created well enough to continue watching further.
@alexeyfalko: I don't know how, but it seems to me that without these "filler" episodes, the behavior of Carol and Manusos would not have been perceived the same way. Even in their every inaction, it was clear who they were and what they represented, so in the end you understand their actions. To me, it was the perfect pace for this series.
@By heart: when you are "starved" for 6 episodes with almost no significant events, any activation will seem like a breakthrough. In my opinion, it was an obvious overkill with stretching, it seemed that Gilligan had some kind of vision initially and it was suitable for one season, but for their own reasons, which probably include budget development, they decided to split the show into two or three seasons, hence such long-winded episodes. Anyway, this showrunner will have fans who will justify everything, even if he just shows a black square on the screen.
@alexeyfalko: the slow pace of the series, without open and aggressive dangers, in my opinion, wonderfully reveals a new world - sterilized, strange, lonely in its own way. In it, any small discovery feels like a revelation, like hope, like a potential conflict with the Global Mind, nothing less.
@vladimir_che: of course, there is a possibility that everything will continue as in the first season. Manousos will sit in the garage with a dictionary and write something down in a notebook for 20 minutes of timekeeping, Carol will just drink or break glass with balls in the remaining time, a fly will fly around a box with an atomic bomb for 10 minutes and similar scenes. It's very likely.
But in the last episode, some kind of eventfulness really began, the plot progressed at a rapid pace compared to what it used to be. Gilligan, in theory, can support him, if the confrontation with the "weirdos" becomes open, something new will be told about them in each episode, Manusos will learn how to return people to their normal appearance, maybe the "weirdos" in this case will not become so peaceful and meat in the style of Walkers will begin. In general, there are options for how to disperse the plot.
Although maybe I'm being too optimistic about Episode 9, it just exceeded all expectations in terms of the number of events that took place. I waited for Manousos' car to be filmed from a drone for 20 minutes, so many more minutes of empty conversations between Carol and Zosi, and only in the last seconds, perhaps (but not exactly), the appearance of Manousos on Carol's doorstep. As a result, Gilligan piled on so much that it could be enough for about 5 episodes of the second season, if we take as a basis how he provided information before that.
@alexeyfalko: I'm not trying to convince you otherwise, but I'm deeply convinced that such a pace would have ruined the series completely. There were enough stories like "Faculty" or "Body Snatchers" (ironically, I remembered them in that order— well, I won't edit them).
I want something new, and it's new — this deliberately slow analysis of all the emotional swings of the first 2.5 months. It couldn't be that everyone is ready to fight for the future right away, these are ordinary people who may well be in complete shock. And then I'm shocked again, but in a different way. And then start deceiving yourself that you can live as usual in such conditions. And so on
A great and controversial episode! the atomic bomb pays for it completely. all possible guns went off (both literally and metaphorically). I'm looking forward to the second season.
poor Carol seemed to be thinking of escaping by going to delula, but as a result, her anxious brain couldn't sit still and brought her back to a cruel reality, which is nice, I really can't wait to watch these two saviors of the world:)
ps why didn't Carol realize that, in general, the agency, which she clung to even in the last dialogue with Zosia, would in fact make no sense with her similar kind of life? to live the rest of your days side-by-side with a character specially made for you? I can't believe she could do it with her eternal awl in her ass, which, in principle, was shown.
@Cheesycheese: the fact of the matter is that she decided to resist again only at the moment when it became clear that her frozen eggs were already in operation, and pretty soon she would come to an end, she would no longer be herself.
I was so impressed by the opening scene, which shows the culture of this people, all these chants, beautiful clothes... And then, at the moment, it all fades away, because there's no one else to play the play in front of. It was like being hit on the head.
Well, yes, in general, the ending was good, I got exactly what I expected from the meeting between Carol and Manousosa. Excellent dynamics. He is quite ruthless, but this ruthlessness is necessary, no matter how strange it may sound. Carol still feels guilty for those 11 million deaths and believed in their "love" with Zosia, Manousos does not have such baggage.
It was clear that Zosia was and remains a part of the Hive, but Carol surprised me. I didn't think she was so caught up in this self-deception about love. But I am glad that in the end the realization came.
So, Carol, with her possessiveness towards Zosa, which she can't even formulate properly because she knows how everything will sound, in the end, it seems, she would prefer to live like Lakshmi, after all, in the illusion that there is someone personified in the collective mind. Or even a Frenchman - damn, we all want to live well. A man needs a man. Sartre wrote that hell is different, but it seems that the absence of others is also hell.
At the same time, it's so amazing that in the last episode Carol managed to get something really personal about the "individual" Zosa, but it never even occurred to her to ask about Zosa's "personal" free will - or maybe it did, but she didn't want to know the truth, because it's generally easy to assume. She was deeply hurt by the waitress who was pulled out of the diner for the sake of the performance, but she did not ask if the real Zosia would ever want to spend time with her, Carol, make friends and sleep. The team is very interested in pleasing. I understand that it may be too much to demand such awareness from Carol, who has been in isolation, but this is something that would worry me personally. She even tries, throwing in a question about exes, but she doesn't have the heart to really ask, and she doesn't put the squeeze on it again. It seems that it was still difficult for Carol to finally realize how much all the old people are now the primary soup, until the moment when it became impossible to deny. Maybe the psyche is so protected, understanding is scary. That's why this shameful pang of resentment is because broth loves the unpleasant Paraguayan as much as she loves her special and only one. After all, self-deception, when you yourself know that it is self-deception, cannot last forever.
It is very interesting that by asking how much time she has before "joining", Carol looks and reacts like a terminally ill person to the information about the diagnosis. Which underlines that for us, the dissolution of the self is indeed the equivalent of death.
It's a good series. A lot of things make you think not about the plot or the characters, but about yourself.
Carol is prone to grand gestures. Manousos is sitting there, puffing with physics textbooks and a dictionary, and she's "taking me home and grabbing the atomic bomb." My aunt allowed herself a two-week vacation, with understanding. And the moment with the "Left Hand of Darkness" is just suddenly relevant.
The last three episodes are not as impressive as the previous ones, but I liked the ending. Carol was temporarily, surprisingly, tempted, but she saw the light. It's a pity, of course, that the plot was stretched, I would like us to see some real beginning of the war from Carol and Manusos at least in the last episode. It's a wonderful series!
@makubex_desu: The question is, what needs to happen that didn't happen before for the alien to allow the possibility of violence? If there is no good reason, then this will be a very bad scenario solution.
@vk531418: it seems to me that she was not so much "caught" as tired of being alone, "Baba Yaga against" and wanted to "get on her hands" and relax. And then I realized that I couldn't relax, the clock was still ticking.
Shtosh. Thanks for the season. But I won't be watching the next seasons online.
True fans and researchers have been looking for a video this week that Gilligan specifically recorded. Marketing solutions- such as advertising on refrigerators, running lines on Google, etc. - are great, I miss such companies.
@Mouse_Sonya: Yes, it is. They write on the Internet that she was treated for two days in the hospital and her medication was adjusted. Which she accepts because of her diagnosis, schizophrenia. The woman had psychotic attacks every two years.
Let marketers think about how to make it legible that this is an advertisement.
I really liked all the characters except Carol. She caused terrible irritation with her actions all season, but I think that's how it was meant to be in order to play on the contrast in the next seasons.
I don't understand, have people lost their critical thinking from being blinded?) Well, even if you follow the logic of the series. Carol may ask to return all her eggs, and they will be OBLIGED to return them to her, because it follows their logic to please. That's it, and she continues to enjoy Zosia for the rest of her life.
But in fact, Gilligan is now manipulating history as he wants, if he turns his own rules into conventions.
The moment of the appeal was perfectly shot, although predictably, it was immediately clear that after the appeal she would simply stand up and become one, there would be no hugs or congratulations. But it was beautifully shot.
It doesn't matter about the atomic bomb, I don't think this "Gun" will go off, it's more like for the viewer to show that the story in the second season will raise the degree more.
P.S. In general, I would look at such a development, Manusos slams Carol so as not to interfere (in the middle of this episode) and the second season is devoted to how he will radically deal with them)
@Paramelion: You haven't been paying attention to the show if you think Carol might ask for her frozen eggs back. They outlined their goal to her from the very beginning, and in the first episode they immediately said they were looking for a way to convert her. After all, they didn't ask permission from the others, but transmitted the virus in a variety of ways. In the Vegas episode, Carol asked, "Is it true that you need my table cages," they answered, "yes," "is it true that you need to put a needle in me and you need my permission to do this," they replied, "yes." That is, the whole point was to agree to permission to extract cells from the body, not permission to infect it. And if they had another way to get the cells and achieve their main goal, why would they need Carol's consent at all (again, did the other 7 billion give their consent?).
Here, as in one of the first episodes with a question and answer about vegetarians, they specifically answer so "interestingly" to mislead. Well, even in this episode, in fact, they manipulated a girl from Peru.
@kobiii: They could quietly conduct experiments while Carol was unaware and then infect her without causing pain. BUT, they are obligated to fulfill all people's wishes, and if Carol says, "I want to get all my eggs immediately," they are obligated to comply. This is the logic of the series.
@Paramelion: they are not obligated to comply with the issue of infection, at the very beginning they told her about their goal, there was even something in the style that joining everyone was their imperative and they would do everything to fulfill it, a la "we are looking for a way, we will do it if we find a painless way." There were no other options in this matter, throughout the season they told Carol that. They infected everyone else without consent, why should it be any different with Carol.
And the topic of completing the wishlist is not above their main goal, and if Carol asks, they won't give a damn to her. If they could infect the water in the world to convert, they would do so. Without asking any Carols, Manusos, etc. In fact, there were only a few ways of infection shown in the first episode.
@Paramelion: I understand that there is a priority. The first thing is to infect all people without asking, as they did. And also send a signal further to other places in space. There is a restriction on causing physical pain, that's all.
@Paramelion: Well, when Carol asked them to tell her how to get everything back, they didn't tell her, they didn't please her. Perhaps, when it comes to their main goal, further dissemination, they will not fulfill the wishes that hinder this.
@OlgaL: There, the fact that they can keep silent about the information does not contradict the rule that they must obey people's wishes. Therefore, the fact that they kept silent is acceptable, but now she has the right to demand, since she guessed everything herself, and then they are obliged. I don't think it would have been shown to us in the episode that "they" were saying "no, Carol, we can't do your request," because then the audience would immediately start asking questions.
@Paramelion: A logical explanation might be that they've already done everything they need to with the eggs and extracted everything they need to create a conversion potion, but they still have a month or 2-3 months left to finish it.
Yes, it's all broken down by the fact that Carol could just as well ask for all this stuff to be given to her during the cooking process and destroyed, making sure that they don't mess up anything else secretly. But trust in them is still undermined and they would not stop, plus they are not such truth-tellers and evade answers on painful topics for themselves. Here she comes to a real understanding that "weirdos" are a real threat and they need to be turned back into normal people, and all this romance with Zosia is life in pink glasses
@alexeyfalko: Well, if Carol had asked them, and then it turned out that they had already done everything necessary with them, I wouldn't have said a word, everything would have looked logical. And then she just says, "do you have my eggs? Well, then I won't ask them, but I'll ask for an atomic bomb.")
Avoiding answers is not cheating. Even in this episode, Zosia told Carol that Magnus asked the exact questions and we had to answer. Literally erasing the series, it answers the question that they are required to do everything they are literally and precisely asked to do.
@Paramelion: They don't have to do anything to anyone, but there are things they can't do.: 1. causing physical pain 2. cheating
and they fulfill the wishes of the remaining people only if these desires do not contradict the goals of their swarm. For example, they will no longer comply with Manusos' requirement to bring another individual to him for an experiment.
They have repeatedly said that they will fulfill any request. When it was about a grenade, or an atomic bomb in the hospital. They were well aware that it could explode and some of the "individuals" would die in the process. So this means that their instinct for self-preservation is expressed only in distancing themselves from dangerous people who can yell and "reset" them, since this affects absolutely the entire "we", and not a separate group of individuals. Or they may keep silent about information that threatens their existence.
The request to return their eggs does not pose a threat to them in any way, but only creates a violation in their plan, according to its "connection", but they have no emotions and "they" would interpret it like this: "we comply with the request, we give the eggs, we start looking for another way for her to join," All the rest is pulling the owl on the globe to protect the great Gilligan.
@Paramelion: yes, they are trying to please, but they will not fulfill all the requirements , otherwise, at the beginning of the series, when gg said she did not agree to apply, Roy would have replied "we obey and obey," but no, they said they would convert her and she would realize that she was mistaken in her desire to remain an individual.E. conversion or death of a person is a priority, and everything that does not interfere with this priority can be fulfilled. You can also do things that don't pose a threat to the virus.
@Balysh: "We" are "hippies" to put it simply. Their only task is to spread until "Make love, not war" reigns all over the world and defend themselves from conservatives who do not like sex and like to kill. Therefore, everything that poses an immediate threat to IT (not to individuals, but to the virus as a whole) they certainly do not comply, this includes withholding information about how to get rid of it, avoiding "toxins" that pose a threat.
The eggs themselves do not pose any threat, as well as the request to return them, they only delay one of the chances for Carol to "join". Therefore, they would have completed it and started looking for another way to "connect" it.
In any case, it was the most obvious question for her, and then Gilligan could come up with a reason why the eggs could no longer be returned. But apparently it turned out to be very difficult to justify and they just gave up on it.
@Paramelion: this is a gap in the plot that the scriptwriters didn't seem to notice. Otherwise, we could easily beat any option: - get your eggs, we no longer need them, we have already done everything we need to get stem cells. - we will return them to you along with happy gas. - I'm sorry, Carol, we still treat you the same way, but they are currently in operation, but we will immediately return them to you when the time comes or something else , but I repeat, Roy is not obliged to fulfill absolutely all requests from individuals, another thing is that the viewer did not hear the necessary request.
@Balysh: We don't know if they can refuse. For example, when everyone left town to avoid talking to Carol, so that she wouldn't repeat her experiment with Zosia, we don't know if anyone would have returned to her if she had asked directly. (when she explicitly asked, they returned). When asked directly what needs to be done to disconnect people from the "hive", they also do not give a direct refusal to answer, but are hung up on an internal conflict that they cannot resolve. So it is not known what would have happened with a direct request to bring eggs, or to prohibit further experiments with eggs. But I don't think this is a hole in the script, it's a hole in the logic of Carol's character, who felt betrayed, freaked out and asked for an atomic bomb, rather than trying to think coolly and find an adequate solution not in the style of "frostbite mom's ears."
@a1447748: but we don't know what's actually in the container with the "bomb" , maybe the very eggs to which the device is added as a gift, with which Carol and Manusosum will create a vaccine for the entire second season?
@HighlyLikely: well, he grasps everything on the fly , and if you also fly into the vastness of fantasy, then you can assume that with the atomic bomb (Carol's eggs) in the container there is a detonator in the person of the hostage Zosia - she is definitely a specialist in virology)))
@Paramelion: it seems that you forgot the joke with "after all, the lawyers survived," and the common mind will always leave itself a loophole in any statement.
Chekhov's eggs have been shot) If it weren't for that, Carol might have continued to live in this fairy tale. Isolation and manipulation have shaken her psyche a lot. It's good that I woke up after all. Here, too, comparisons can be made with the Mulholland Drive in terms of escaping into the world of illusions in one form or another.
It's a good series, and it's nice to see Ray on the screen again.) I'm really looking forward to the second season, I hope it will be released faster than the Division of the same
@OlgaL: I agree that Chekhov's eggs were a great solution, but provided that she didn't realize until the last moment that "they" would use them, and then the storyline would begin as she avoids them or tries to prevent them (injections, vapors, or other contact with the "medicine"). And now I have a big question, why didn't she request that they be returned to her)
@Paramelion: I just stepped out and didn't realize that it was possible. She gets emotional and experiences betrayal, because she began to believe that she has a relationship with Zosia, and not that she communicates with the hive.
@Paramelion: We don't know what happened between the conversation with Zosia on the ski slope and Carol's return home. And what's actually in the container. Maybe she did.
@HighlyLikely: So she said it herself, an atomic bomb) If it had been eggs, she would not have come out so "cold" from the helicopter where Zosia was sitting.
How stupid my jealousy of Zosa looked, I was already ashamed of Carol through the screen. And her words that they (she) can't love Manousos as much as Carol- 🤦🏻
But the season ended perfectly, the cliffhanger with an atomic bomb is explosive in every sense of the word))
I didn't understand. It seems that they can't convert a person without his consent, Carol was shouting "Don't touch me, I have free will" in the hospital with Zosia, and the hive retreated. Why is she now so hopelessly asking "how much time do I have"? Would the Beehive unwillingly drag a thermos of the virus towards her and forcibly poke her in the face? Why didn't Manusos ask for books on radio engineering in Spanish, since he was already communicating with the hive, living in someone else's house, and had clearly tempered his principles. Translating technical literature with a dictionary is generally unrealistic, there are special translators for this, and without knowledge of the language it is generally meaningless.
@Mouse_Sonya: They couldn't have taken the cells without consent, because it's a painful procedure, and they don't hurt. Carol doesn't know what method they're going to use to infect her, but generally speaking, inhaling is a painless method and doesn't require her consent, according to their logic. I assume that all these united minds of the world may be able to figure out how to let her breathe, not through a thermos bottle, but in some other way)
@Djigman: well, Carol made it clear in the first episode in plain text that her books are lousy reading, or do you think a successful writer of books for housewives is the smartest person in life?
Perhaps by removing your unjustified racism, you would at least be able to understand that Manousos is not an Arab and thought that he might have a technical education and understand much more, since he researched radio waves than the writer.
@orwell-was-right: Since when has Manusos been a spermotoxic? I'm shocked by you, that's why we made this series for a target audience with this level of development.
Well, with Carol, yes, Vince was outsmarted. It turned out that Carol was really mentally retarded, fell in love with Zosia in a month and forgot about what she had learned in the first episodes — one might have thought that this was a multi-trick to outwit the highway
@vladimir_che: I got confused and misunderstood something, I judged exclusively from the series, thank you for the clarification, but then another question arises - in what way is he smarter than Carol? he is, in principle, the most narrow-minded character, clearly from some fierce slums and purely flexing the time that remains.
@orwell-was-right: well, she actually also began to flex using the language, just a few episodes later, which gives out the weak speed of her thinking))
In the final episode, he asks, "well, how is it that we have a special bond?", this is nonsense
People learn the concept of self-deception. 2025, photo in color.
Yes, Camon, well, sketch it out, Carol was well aware of what she was doing. I knew that there was no love here, I just constructed a fantasy, escaped to the land of rainbows and concepts. Just like most people turn a blind eye to uncomfortable topics, situations, and problems in the hope of "well, it'll sort itself out somehow!" After Manousos almost killed her pet, she was afraid that she would lose what little she had left, and realized that she had to live for today. Well, they can't force her to join)))))) Oh, oh. Oops!
@Mr_Knight: Yes, Kamon, well, sketch it out, they lived together for less than a month.
It's especially funny to watch such nonsense in a series that consists of 70% fillers, i.e. there was more than enough time to adequately register the development of attachment and a change in attitude towards biorobotics. To show how Zosia manipulates and falls in love with herself, but Vince is a genius — it was enough to rub her furry legs to convince Carol.
@limbo: Carol is not a buzzer or an autistic person, she should easily endure a couple of months without communication - there are books, TV, too, delivery works - an introvert's dream, besides, Carol likes to drink, and drunks easily go on a binge.
Overall, I liked everything, it was a pleasure to watch.
Yes, I squandered it in some places, I wanted to get the action as soon as possible, but I also enjoyed the measured style in some places.
I saw some similarities with the "World of the Wild West", where people also fell in love with artificial intelligence, with a black mirror where there were stories about how the hero had feelings for an "unreal" object.
And "freaks" are "unreal" for an ordinary person, they are like artificial intelligence - they say what a person wants to hear, echo him, but in depth they realize their ultimate goals.
I don't think there's much point in demanding the eggs back — they've already figured something out and will continue to work anyway to figure out how to put the heroine in their chains.
I will look forward to the second season with interest)
@rtsing: it was clear that there would be no explosion, but I was waiting for manousos to kneel in the last scene and scream - noooooo - into the flying camera)) Put the squeeze on the cliche after all.
I like Manousos so much, not considering his donkey-like stubbornness. I can't wait to see their duet with Carol in 2 years. Anyway, I like all the characters in this series.
@Igor_A: I was more annoyed that they recorded a super-long speech on the answering machine, they didn't have to show it all the time, they were tired of this endless "blah blah, our feelings for you haven't cooled down, but after everything that happened, we want to be alone"
By the way, there are problems with the picture in this series. The greenscreen is sometimes just the most shameful (for example, here in the fight for a smartphone scene or when Sturka climbed onto the roof in an early episode), after the flawless visual of Better Call Saul, it's sad to see this.
I wonder what happened to them during production in this fight for a smartphone scene, why they decided to redo it on the green, because the rest of the moments of their meeting were filmed in a real location.
By the way, at the beginning of the episode, when the girl sniffed their "medicine", they prepared a place for her and so on, knowing that she would pass out. It was the same when Manousos was doing his thing with the radio. So I think if Carol hadn't started throwing a tantrum, the virus would probably have receded and the guy or the whole world would have returned to sanity.
@Malsagov: Well... at the beginning of the episode, it was made clear that the girl was preparing to join on her own. Of course, they knew that she might fall, and since they are pseudo-pacifists, they put a blanket on her. And about Manousos, Zosia said bluntly that he had warned them about his actions before. And how these two judgments lead to the idea that if Carol hadn't started to get hysterical, her mind would have retreated, I didn't understand at all. Maybe he really would have turned off this particular guy, but certainly not because two individuals had a place to fall))
@an_khv: And where did I write that it was their downfall? I'm talking about the same behavior of both the girl and the guy and Zosi. The girl joined the common mind after a seizure. The guy and Zosia had the same seizure. The girl sniffed their virus, and Zosia and the guy started convulsing from the radio signal. Only the shotgun thwarted Manousos' plan. Maybe I would have brought them back to their senses. Not just the guy, but everyone on earth, since they have a common mind. So, be careful)
@Malsagov: first, you make two judgments, then you say "so that" (a conjunction expressing a consequence, a synonym for the word "therefore"). That's where you wrote that it's about falling. So be careful)
@an_khv: I gave an example of the same actions that led to the same consequences, but with different outcomes. Don't overdo my words) let's leave it at that.
@an_khv: Yes. The girl inhaled and began to convulse. In fact, she was the only one, because she was normal, and she was supposed to be one of them. And when Manusos turned on the alarm, there began to convulse - Zosia, the guy, and behind the scenes, most likely, all the "people" on the planet who are infected. The virus itself originally came from outer space, as it was shown in the first episodes. Maybe the signal caught by Manusos is an antivirus? Who knows what would have happened if Carol hadn't come in? No wonder they quickly all jumped out of the city at once.
@Malsagov: then, I wasn't trying to misinterpret you, but stupidly misunderstood you initially) Only Manusos didn't initially signal them down. Because at first he was sitting next to the guy without a receiver, and later he ran to the car and took out a notebook with wave numbers from his bag and took out the receiver from there. Therefore, it is clearly not the radio signal that affected them in this series, but it may actually be an antidote)
@an_khv: I also wonder what will happen to Carol? They'll be able to attach it in a couple of months. In fact, you just need to inhale, which means they won't harm her according to their logic. They're really tricky, if they had to inject her with a syringe, etc., they would need her consent. And here it's just a breath. Would they hunt her down and force her to inhale by accident? I can already imagine this action as they fight off the crowds of infected in an attempt to prevent her from becoming part of the hive)) but it would have been with Zack Snyder sooner)) Eh, now we have to wait at least a year for the second season (
@Malsagov: They started convulsing because Manousos yelled at this guy. It was the same when Carol yelled at Zosia. Apparently Zosia or that guy told Manousos about this case. He yelled, the guy began to convulse, and Manusos began to listen to what was happening to the signal on the frequency that he had isolated by listening to all radio frequencies. Manousos suggested that at this moment the dude is not connected to the hive, and can turn, but this is only a hypothesis that he could not fully verify because of Carol.
@a1447748: here, all these "smart guys" are watching with their ass on rewind, but the very first ones in the comments are scribbling how stupid Gilligan is and how long everything is!
- I felt terribly sorry for the kid at the beginning, his sincere emotions towards his "girlfriend" and misunderstanding of what happened were very cool. 😭
- Carol was very annoying in this episode, quickly and, frankly, her mind was somehow pointlessly obscured as soon as the Hive pissed in her ears, plus she forbade receiving her stem cells many times, but they didn't give a damn about all this, where is their honesty, which she defended in front of Manusos?
And the final accusatory "you won" made it even more like Manousos was to blame for something. 🤣
- The first meeting with Manousos is probably my favorite moment of humor concentration for the whole season. 😁
- The season ended well, I hope they won't keep us waiting long for the sequel, and in the comments to the second season we won't see individuals who are always unhappy and still watching.
P.S. HAVE A NICE HOLIDAY AND HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL OF YOU
Carol in the second season 😅🤣 The season turned out to be very cool for me personally, I liked everything, as I wrote earlier — "Vince Gilligan won't shoot any bullshit."
A gorgeous ending! I was most looking forward to the interaction between Carol and Manousos, I was afraid that he would arrive only by the end of the season, but the scriptwriters did not disappoint) I would like to know what he talked about with Zosia (was there everything that the audience already knows about, or something else?), and some flashback from his life in the second season. It's understandable why Carol holds on so tightly and fears for her identity, she's a best-selling author with a difficult childhood in a correctional camp. Now I wonder what is behind such a powerful motivation of Manousos to preserve himself as a person.
@sotheo: In other words, ordinary people don't really want to preserve themselves as a person, is it only about some special people with powerful motivation?
@Igor_A: as you can see from the other characters who were shown in episode 2, yes, they are mostly kind of indifferent, "well, there is a virus and there is, they will turn and turn." Even the Mauritanian evasively replied that he did not want to join yet, but still wanted to enjoy life while there was such a chance, but in the long run he did not seem to be strongly opposed to the idea of becoming part of the highway. Although, maybe he has a double game, and he will surprise everyone in the second season) We'll see...
@sotheo: I think the Mauritanian doesn't want to. He just showed Carol what a diplomatic response is. When you don't rudely refuse, but say something like "thank you for offering, I'm very pleased, but no. And also, please, tell me, what do you need to connect me? Oh, the stem cells? Well, please don't take them from me, I won't allow it."
It's a good ending, and Carol's finally let go. Manousos is the best character in the series, logical and principled. He didn't have to go through all these moral torments and passions to understand who they were and what was going on. We're waiting for season 2, please don't delay Vince.
@Sich666: How logical is he? Carol, with a below-average IQ, learned much more about aliens than he did. He only started talking to them in the last episode. If it hadn't been for Carol, I wouldn't have learned anything.
It's good that the season is over and WE got all the answers. No one could even predict how this season would end.:D The scene on a green background with the fight for the phone was a bit upsetting...
Well, actually, I liked the series as a whole, it's just a pity there aren't enough episodes in the season, there would be at least 20 pieces, otherwise wait 2 seasons for 2 years for what? To find out that it is possible to block the signal? Is this the way to separate a person?
Although I will add, I like Manusos because he is not afraid that he will kill a lot of people and acts as he should, observation, testing, result. It was lucky that such a person remained himself and did not join them. Well, in general, I understand him, it's better to really kill everyone than if they stay like that, they're not people anymore. Even if 70% of the population has to be killed to save 30% from the virus, it will be worth it.
How beautifully the actress plays the character Carol, a natural nasty hypocritical woman, she gets 10 out of 10, my bravo Ray Seahorn.
As I said before, this alien virus of slavery is obvious to me. But now we have realized that this is a smart, super effective virus. We were shown how they deceive people, how they managed to turn a girl into the same weirdo, this whole circus was in order to turn her, i.e. this is the main task of the virus, to turn an intelligent person into nothing.
Who is Otter in fact? Well, it's just a body, and they (the weirdos) gave her this body, and Carol just starts to get a liking for weirdos through her, although it's just a shell, there's no personality in the Otter, it's just one big collective mind that has all the memories of people.
And Carol was already so brainwashed that she grabbed a gun just to save the body she has sexual desires for, nothing more, it's so funny and brilliant, because she herself was doing the same thing as the Paraguayan, killing millions tens of millions of people with her tantrums, and now this Paraguayan is crazy for her, although He is the most adequate person on planet Earth at the moment.
@HighCrunch: it's not really brilliant to show all this hypocritical character of Carol's character, that like everything is for her and how she absorbed it, this idea that the whole world is for her and that she's good and all the weirdos love her, and that you don't have to love a Paraguayan like that and that he's bad lol, well, the Paraguayan didn't kill 10 million at least people, Carol forgot about it in 2 months, hey, how convenient, and among those 10 million there could have been an Otter, and an Otter could have flown away from the truth serum to another world, but no, Carol is as good as she thinks. Well done director and screenwriter, I'm very amused by this series. I'm looking forward to the second season.
@HighCrunch: But now we have realized that this is a smart, super effective virus. And what is its super-efficiency? Or is it sarcasm? First, the virus signal must be picked up by an advanced civilization. The chance of such a random event is about 0. Then decrypt. Then create a strain. Then a safety accident must occur for the virus to get out of control. The efficiency is off the charts.
@Igor_A: The effectiveness is that this is the best version of the Trojan possible - the victim infects himself simply by examining the received code (information) for scientific purposes. Let the moment of infection itself be rather banal, but it is so filmed. This does not negate the ingenuity of the virus transmission scheme to the victim.
I hope the second season will be about a Paraguayan, the character is more interesting, but Carol preferred the world of illusion and sex with a collective mind, or rather with one of the shells, and soon it won't be far from inhaling vapors, and Carol's personality will disappear into the ocean of thoughts of billions of people, and she and Otter (Zosia) will disperse like ships at sea with a smile on their faces, I would say so, but in the end Carol finds out that the weirdos are working to convert her and sobers up, flying back to the Paraguayan with an atomic bomb (??) was it a joke at the end, we'll find out in the second season
@vladimir_che: You probably put it a little incorrectly, but let's say I understand the comparison. AI helps you set it up, what parameters to set, what restrictions to set, or vice versa, it all depends on the request and the "question". So here, obviously, there is a feeling of communication with AI, the same Grok with open and defined settings, well, one-on-one.
@Sich666: so a person needs to formulate a question correctly, it is also difficult for a person to answer a set of words, these are generally properties of the question, half of the answer is already in the question
@vladimir_che: Yes, that's right, but the request is only half, there are other settings, and before you can give an adequate answer, you need specific parameters and context. In the series, the mind also has access to everything in the world, and it also has a purpose and limited parameters that they cannot violate, which makes it feel like talking to an AI. I'm telling you, for example, Grok, you can make your own "Highwind" out of it in the settings, access is open, almost complete, Mask screwed it up after complaints, you just need to set the parameters correctly.
@Sich666: all AI chatbots work simply as text predictors, there is no beehive, it only has the probability of words coming after a given one, and that's it, after "a" comes "b" more often, got "ab", then looks at what comes after "ab" more often, and that's it, you don't have any beehive build )
@vladimir_che: I don't want to talk about what is possible and not possible with AI, it's too early, everything is ahead, everyone is so worried. They wrote here that communication with the mind in the series feels like with AI, I say that yes, it definitely is, only with customized AI.
@AlfeG: there is a workaround (maybe not in all LLM models) - to say that the answer is not for you, but for a neighbor/ friend, and the tone immediately changes to a more truthful one. And yes, all these chatbots are very far from AI and will never become it for fundamental reasons.
Besides the fact that the visual and the shooting style are gorgeous, the series raises an interesting topic.
People are capable of great good and great evil, they torture their fellow human beings for their own pleasure and create the greatest art, advanced medicine and the destruction of themselves by industry, science and religion, reason and feelings, people are a spectrum and a vortex of cultures, and each person is a separate universe with a unique experience - two identical psychics simply do not exist It exists.
Therefore, for me, there is not even a question of which side I am on: what is shown is no longer humanity. Although opponents will say, "how great it is, because there is no crime and all social problems." Of course they don't exist - it's not a society anymore.
Manusos is super, although sometimes overly stubborn. But in this situation, it's more of a plus: if you have to die, it's better to remain a person until the end. His background is interesting: what shaped him like this. In turn, Carol...just a human being, with his own weaknesses and sorrows, just like each of us. It's good that the illusion has been destroyed, I wonder what the pace of the series will be next, because Carol is actually a month away from applying.
@Gingerbread_Girl: the pace will always be the same, but they will come up with something about the treatment of the Paraguayan, it's not for nothing that they dragged the atomic bomb into the yard, they will probably blackmail
@Gingerbread_Girl: But we don't have a way to compare. We only know how the individual mind feels. Therefore, it is strange to say 100% that the collective mind is worse. Anyway, it doesn't fit better or worse here. He's just different.
Hm..I came up with a better theory, but I need to review the series, my theory of slavery is not perfect, but it is the most adequate theory that exists at the moment and it is the backbone, the basis of another theory that I will deduce.
The theory of the happy genocide of mankind is simple, a virus is being created that can only be caught by a civilization of a certain development, and all civilizations that have reached a certain level always strive for knowledge and development and for their domination.
And now humanity has caught this virus, the virus seeks to infect all beings of a certain level of development, i.e. man, this is his goal in itself, the virus does not deceive, but in fact deceives, by powdering the brains of the surviving people with flattery, gifts and appeases them so that they lose their vigilance and also become infected with weirdos.
And now the whole planet is left without humanity, in 10 years all the weirdos will die because they have nothing to eat, they cannot harm and cannot use the resources of the Earth.
And in this way, aliens arrive and, without war, settle in the pure Greenery without people.
And all people mercifully die happily and painlessly with a smile on their face, they are happy, but they are dead because they are not able to pluck an apple from a tree, such a creature is not able to survive, everyone needs resources.
And that's why it's a theory of the happy genocide of humanity. Without war and pain, people just self-destruct.
@HighCrunch: Yes, there will be no aliens (and initially, I'm sure there were none - well, not counting the original inhabitants of the previous planet). There wasn't even a hint of "new physics" in the entire series, so they basically won't be here.
@chet_alex: and what should be the hint? Well, they're out there somewhere, flying towards Earth for all these 9 episodes, using some kind of unknown rocket technology, how was this supposed to be reflected in the plot?
@HighCrunch: So the signal is narrowly focused, how humanity picked it up, if it wasn't specifically sent to Earth, I didn't understand at all. And if rukozhop hadn't been working in the lab and the virus hadn't escaped, would the whole plan have gone down the drain? If he was purposefully sent to Earth, then this is some kind of too cunning and unreliable plan. It would be easier to terrorize some kind of lifeless planet, I think.
There is a thought experiment in philosophy called the Experience Machine. They connect you to a car and you "fall asleep." During sleep, you live your best life. Do you want to become a cool Hollywood actor? You are welcome. All the money in the world? Easy. The most beautiful girl? A car? A house by the sea? Do you want presidents to bring you breakfast? And it feels real, not staged. One disadvantage is that in reality you are sleeping and connected to the car. That's how you'll die when your body expires.
So the question arises, would you join it voluntarily? The sensations are more than real, the brain is deceived, the necessary hormones are coming. Constant happiness, joy, finally a controlled life, no more pain and suffering.
In fact, "connecting" is something similar, eternal happiness, and romance with Zosia is a kind of test drive. The whole point of happiness is that it can't last forever, that you have to try and suffer for it. So Carol got a "reality check." I like how Hive is like, "Come on, we're not going to force you, no way... Oh, no, we will)))" Voluntary-forced labor, in general.
@Mr_Knight: By the way, despite Hyve's words, I have a wild doubt that they feel real joy. When they're not in contact with Claire and other normal people, they're like... None at all? They don't talk (they don't need words), they don't have fun, they don't do any activities. Where do new impressions and sensations that could bring joy come from? Okay, even figs with that - where do their bodies have the resource to constantly produce hormones of happiness and pleasure? I even thought it was a sinful thing, maybe by absorbing the consciousness of billions of people, they receive an initial huge charge of happiness, which gradually dissipates, and that's why they are so happy about the same books by Carol? Because it is an external source of joy that is not available to them within their community. Difficult, in short.
@AndreRowell: "Where do new impressions and sensations that could bring joy come from?" - it seems to me that Zosia answered this question to the heroine by listing all the main "hormones of happiness" - it seems that the virus simply regulates their production. It is the stimulus-reaction mechanism that works for an ordinary person, but the virus does not need it, it simply ensures the constant production of the necessary hormones, an eternal "reaction" without a "stimulus". And it hardly requires a lot of resources.
I love this new technique, first they show a girl and a goat for 10 minutes, and at the end Zosia tells it in words. You can somehow reduce the presence of a goat on the screen due to oral retelling.
I understand that the scriptwriters were recruited from Zaunyvnaya Street, but what could the Apple technology giant have done not on Amatorskaya Street? It's a shame. Was there anyone talented in this team at all?
The actress plays everything with a stony face. He begins to look for the answer to the question about stem cells and, with the same stone face, finds the answer in eggs. With the same stone face, he puts an atomic bomb in front of the house. Every time, she has "complicated" emotions on her face. I understand that a garbage scenario is justified by a slow narrative, but it's already difficult to cram a brick face into this tralebus of excuses.
@vladimir_che: I give you a standing ovation. not to mention that half of the show should be washed off. I have a comparison with this elusive meaning of a banana taped to the wall. or an exposed toilet bowl.
Oh my God, ahaha, I'm so excited about this show. It's just the purest thrill. At first, I was a little disappointed when Carol left with them, it's very good that she returned in the same season. If the ending was how she leaves with them, I would be very disappointed. The atomic bomb is a complete mess. TV series - love
Did Zosia say that Manuses warned them before he screamed? And how did he know what would happen if he literally spoke with a second plurusoid? Did he learn this from his interview with Zosia? Then she's right, Manuses guard is so precise and specific.
Carol, in a conversation with Manosos, had previously mentioned that:
- The other immune ones don't want to communicate with her. - One day she drove the hive to the point where they left her alone in the city for 40 days.
Based on this, he could already question Zosia more specifically.
The scene at the beginning is creepy. I immediately thought that now they would take you in, you fool, pack up and leave. And they won't even smile anymore. And so it turned out. In the end, she didn't join everyone in her tribe, but dissolved into one giant nothing with no personality. Rough. And I'm sorry for the kid. Even animals are more empathetic than hive. In general, it's strange, of course, that the other 10 don't understand that this is not a good thing. After all, the whole essence of humanity is the constant striving forward, to discover new things, to learn, even stumbling, even somehow, but this is our whole essence. Through the thorns to the stars, to swim. Without all this, people are not people. In short, either they are really stupid, or this is how their defense mechanism works.
Even Manusos was blown away by the atomic bomb at the end. However, I didn't quite understand why Carol was standing right on the doorstep. Is this a safety net for the day when they come with a thermos to take a sniff? Would he shoot her with a gun and blow himself up along with part of the city? And an interesting question was asked above: if Carol demands to take her eggs, will they be given to her or not? Because Hive is very categorical about the spread and infection, and here "we will do everything for you, Carol" doesn't seem to work.
We look forward to the next season and a detailed conversation between Carol and Manousos. She should show him the board, and he should tell her about his ideas about the radio signal. Of course, I expected to see such a conversation in this episode, but we'll do it anyway. And yes, Manusos is a beast, I'll be rooting for him :)
@AndreRowell: We'll do everything, but we can't do any harm. And from the hive's point of view, helping Carol not join the hive would harm her, because as we already know, there is no greater happiness than being a part of the hive.
The series pissed me off. I wanted a normal conversation between Carol and Manousos (funny that my phone now knows that word). It's better without an interpreter, here you have all the difficulties that could be given for the last episode. Or at least they would have shown his conversation with Zosia, there were obviously more interesting questions there. And here I can't justify Carol's behavior in any way. Two weeks have passed since their return. You even started investigating something. You know that they have nothing to eat, you know that they will die out in 10 years, and your world will collapse, there will be no one to maintain the infrastructure and turn on electricity for you wherever you want. You know what, they eat people! And in a couple of weeks you decide what poker is? Okay, loneliness, the cuckoo is gone. But just after loneliness, you can at least behave like a normal person. In this series, we're ALL shown what's going on with Carol. They didn't tell her something to be so afraid of about Manusos. Even if you're afraid, to exchange two phrases with the dude who farted at you from Paraguay, and send him like I'm tired - well, fucked up! It wasn't that long ago that survivors talked to you the same way, well, fuck? As a human being, pour him a fucking cup of coffee, ask him how he wants to save the world, tell him what you've found. Is that too much to ask? Ask how you got there and help me work off the wounds, at the very least. Oh, how infuriating)
In general, it feels like if everything was predictable before, because we were given hints in previous episodes, then here we decided to fuck off, like do it unexpectedly and give a conflict for the final episode, considering that we still need to combine it.
How could you seriously believe that she was somehow particularly loved... lol.
Manusos honey is a normal experiment, he brought a radio with him, he's sitting reading electric books (imho they have them in Spanish, but okay). If the series was about him, four episodes would be enough)
@AnnaRashell: Yes, it's a shame, of course, that Carol began to think exclusively of the reproductive organ, on the other hand, it's somehow... Like a human being, or something) Even though she behaves like a jealous fanfiction girl (apparently, this is how her professional transformation manifests itself due to fiction)), "don't touch my toys, don't pee in my potty," that's all. I just wanted to slap her on the back of the head, but yes, it's okay to sit with Manukus over a cup of coffee, and not run to drink at the first opportunity.
@1-900-Linden: I agree with you, but after he behaved unfriendly on the phone, he called you a mess, and Zosia didn't give a clear answer that he wasn't dangerous - I wouldn't drink coffee with him either))
@AnnaRashell: In fact, Carol was taking a big risk. Manousos could turn out to be a psychopath and kill her or tie her up and abuse her. In this case, no one would have helped her.
@AnnaRashell: actually, unlike the hive, which fulfills her wishes, Manusos is a man with free will, and it is not known what he could do. Carol doesn't know him, doesn't know what he wants or why he's here or if she can trust him. So her behavior is much more logical than a happy ending with a cup of coffee.
@a1447748: She behaves with him as if she hadn't made the same mistakes herself when she first interacted with the hive. arrogantly, as with some kind of stupid one - she knows what is needed and how to do it right, but what about him? She's just a dumb bitch.
Manousos is very interesting to watch, we are waiting for next season for him to take steps to save the world)) Oh, Carol.. a lonely soul is understandable, but after saying that they love her as much as manousos, one could think that there is nothing personal in this "relationship", no feelings, no affection, and somehow shake things up, and not travel the world with zosia At least the egg story had touched her after all!
What a hypocritical piece of shit Carol is) I really hope that over time we will learn the story of the real Zosia, on reddit they are quite actively promoting the theory that she ended up in Morocco after falling into sex slavery ("I've always been curious where these ships go from Gdansk..."), it will be an evil irony if it was her superintelligence that slipped Carol as the perfect sex doll. And this once again emphasized that Carol values individuality only in herself, so she would calmly live out her life in an artificially created idyll if she were allowed.
If I were Manousos, I would have sent her away and stayed away =\ She spent a little over a month in luxury isolation, playing golf and arranging Michelin dinners for herself, while he was licking cans for a bean, and for some reason her mentality was completely blown away, but he had the strength to send los otros 100,500 times (I just liked it, I'll call them that now)) and overcome 9k on your own. Vaya con Dios, Carol Sturka, as they say)
It's clear that she didn't have the happiest marriage with Helen, and then she was given the physical embodiment of all her sexual fantasies on a silver platter, but I probably would have been more into it if she had broken down at least six months later... Apparently, for some reason, they don't want to stretch the timeline.
But it's funny with a bomb, of course) Maybe Carol will fly on it, waving a cowboy hat, like at the end of Doctor Strangelove🤠
@1-900-Linden: So he sent a highwind 100,500 times, because he's very smart or very stupid? If he's very smart, then why did he suddenly start communicating with Highmind in the last episode and conducting experiments with him, as well as using comfortable housing and good food (sort of)? If it's very stupid, then there's no question.
@Igor_A: Well, it depends on what you mean by "stupid". So far, he has been shown as an extremely principled and stubborn character, if that equates to stupidity for you, then probably yes) That's how he completed the first point of his quest, isolating himself in his "base" - he found a radio frequency that somehow affects the plurals. Then I got Carol's tape and realized that it would be much more realistic to complete it with an ally. Well, the fact that he began to interact with the highway and enjoy the basic benefits - a roof over his head and food, what do you want from him? For him to sit on the side of the road and drool?) Principles are principles, but you need to eat and sleep somewhere, and to defeat the enemy, you first need to get to know him.
@1-900-Linden: He moved into Carol's neighbors' house, in my opinion, only because Carol promised to settle this issue later. That is, I made an agreement with a living person. By the way, he eats his beef chips in this house, which he brought with him. In my opinion, even at the moment when he was dying in the jungle, he was ready to die, but he would not accept help from Hive. They've got him- reach up into the sky. He holds it out to shut them out, to stop them, but technically this is the necessary consent for them to help. Like, dear Manousos, if you need us, send us away. Nevertheless, he is an extremely stubborn comrade, the extreme pole of the attitude towards the highway. At the other pole, the rest of the immune system, led by Diabante, is fully accepted. And in the middle is Carol, who rushes and reflects. I don't think Manousos' reinforced concrete principles will lead to success, but it will certainly be interesting.
So far, the first season looks like it's going to show a controversial epic disaster. To create a pseudo-psychology: to betray your ideals for the sake of comfort or to stand on your own... and... back. Expect a second season in a couple of years. And of course there's a metaphorical bomb.
I'm too lazy to even scold this trinket. As soon as something interesting started (Manusos with the radio), it definitely had to be interrupted in order to torture us with a lesbian drama about relationships for 15 minutes.
I'm going to scroll through the precepts of Gilligan's fans. I can't stand another second of the main character's brilliantly filmed living room.
While Manousos was driving to Carol, she had already fully believed in Zosi's love, even making the same claims as Lakshmi from the second episode.: "Did you even talk to them?". I understand everything, Zosia is cool, but damn, you lost Helen because of the virus, and they would have eaten her if you hadn't intervened. Apparently, forty days of loneliness had a strong effect on Carol, it was downright psychological torture. If the season had ended with Carol in this state, I would have been upset, but fortunately the frozen cells shot, and Carol returned to beast mode to fight the kindest virus in the world. I'm thrilled.
About the finale. I remember how in Breaking Bad the scriptwriters added a scene of Walter White buying a machine gun at the beginning of the season and then barely figured out at the last moment how to use it at the end. So, I hope this time they have at least an approximate plan in advance, because... 💀
@niggapig: there is no plan, all the hooks did not work, Zosia has already been killed twice - alive, frightened by eating corpses - no one gives a shit, the gasoline pump was dying in the jungle - probably alive, and so on, the scriptwriters just mechanically create hooks for order and throw them away on a fishing trip
@niggapig: judging by the podcast with Vince and co. (I didn't listen to it personally, but they briefly retold it on Reddit), they haven't figured out what to do with the bomb yet, they just asked Apple to do something like that in the end) So yes, just like with a BB machine gun.
Google suggests that today, December 25, is the name day of the Manusos (it turns out that the abbreviation for the name Emanuel is accepted in some languages).
an interesting series came out, there's something to think about, but Manousos is just my idol, he doesn't give up until the last moment, considering that he really doesn't have anyone close to him, and he understands that he has to save everyone) and Carol took a mini vacation and returned to reality again)) I hope she and Manousos will solve this problem of the return of humanity)
@aziza_funky: They've already told her that it might be her safety net. Like, if the weirdos keep working to make Carol like these weirdos, then she can just launch this bomb and fuck it.
As a result, the series turned out to be some lenten bullshit. Well-cut, but lean. The first 3-4 episodes are intriguing - what happened, how it happened, what's next, a rebellious heroine who sees through "utopia" and so on. And then herak - and just despondency and suffering, literally and figuratively. All the significant plot content of the series could fit into 4 episodes instead of 9. Well, OK, add melancholy to the atmosphere - 6 episodes. But at least 3 hours of the series can be stupidly cut out and nothing will change. And the finale is just about nothing - because in fact, the series ended with what happened at the beginning of the season - she wants to save the world again. Well, thank you. Gilligan apparently forgot to take his pills when he was writing the script.
It was interesting to watch the series, but the finale disappointed and angered: not a single clear answer about the virus and the human, just more scattered hints and added questions (a radio signal, whether the "hidden" person is aware of himself) - and this is all to the already accumulated pile of questions (for example, who created and spreads this virus in general). Why did the virus infect mice at the beginning of the season, but animals don't get infected in real life (for example, through eating or licking plates or biting)? Why would a mouse bite a human if the virus can't do any harm? why is the virus so ceremonious with the remaining ones, if no one asked all the first converts about anything - maybe the virus needs not so much to convert them as to study their genetic cause of the "misfire" (hence the need for stem cells)? I also have a vague feeling that "we don't know how to lie" is just another pretense - they are too good at simulating, manipulating and pretending when they need to, and they also know how not to answer important questions.
@Willful: the virus only works on humans, and mice were artificially infected by humans, in response, the mouse bit the human, as it usually bites, and brought the virus to the human, the mouse doesn't care about the virus, harming a human and kissing him are two different things, as they say in Albuquerque, so the promises are not broken
@vladimir_che: well, if the mouse was able to become a carrier, then at least the virus somehow affects it. In addition, given that the virus came from outer space from another planet with different conditions - it seems unlikely to me that it acts exclusively on humans, it should still be more universal.
@vladimir_che: I wrote it.: A universal virus because it travels between planets where life forms can vary significantly. If I'm not mistaken, even the signal has been traveling to earth for millions of years, and it's not known if there were already people on earth when the signal was sent.
@Willful: and how do you think to develop a universal virus? what is the universal virus in nature? There is no universal virus even on earth, but within the galaxy... not a single normal alien will accept such a tk, develop a universal virus))
@vladimir_che: Well, we're talking about the universe of the series. even the fact that he was able to impress all but twelve people already speaks in favor of his versatility, in reality, of course, this is impossible.
@Willful: it turns out that even in humans it is not universal ) the signal is sent by an advanced civilization for an advanced civilization , why bother with universality and send a signal to the planet of rats? How will they accept it and turn it into a virus?
@vladimir_che: Well, infecting eight billion people with the same result is still universal. and let me clarify once again: it is designed for residents of different planets, it should be universal. as for the fact that he was sent for an advanced civilization: perhaps he was sent in the same way that earthlings are going to send now - just into space somewhere, maybe someone will "get lucky".
@Willful: You can only get lucky if you have a radio receiver and dna engineers, which means that when you look in the mirror you realize that you are an advanced civilization.
@vladimir_che: yes, but an advanced civilization on another planet is not people, but it is generally unknown who, and the virus should still suit them according to the idea.
@Willful: it still seems to be more profitable to send a couple of specialized viruses than to fence off one universal one, and it seems to be more expensive to develop one mega virus, and then you can't escape from the universal one yourself)
@Balysh: it makes no sense to disassemble ENT if the movie itself is boring, in star Wars, no one cares about senseless lightsaber battles in the era of superblasters, the main thing is that the father is a villain, there is a need to save the planet from the death star, the princess is in trouble, the galaxy is in danger... well, they don't distract you with lesbians))
@Balysh: well, that's how 99% of the series didn't have to start :)) but I would like to see more logic in the series, even taking into account the fantastic assumptions.
@Willful: well, there was more drama in the popular BB here, no one found fault with drug prescriptions there, but this series stopped developing on the idea, let's say such a virus, and then? more lesbians))
@limbo: under the sauce of an incredibly complex director's idea, you are being fed budget deficits and savings on scripts and filming. There are only 9 episodes in the season, which are pointlessly prolonged. At the same time, there are practically no people in the frame, the locations are not actively changing, and the dialogues are also very modest. No one had ever done that before the directors' strike. As a result, the viewer suffers. A similar approach to saving resources with pumping depth and non-pumping speed can be seen in the TV series Separation. Also, a minimum of locations, a minimum of scenery, a minimum of people in the frame, slow monotonous shooting.
I'm upset that we didn't finish the series with one season, and now we're waiting for season 2 for God knows how long. Otherwise, at the end of the season, I can say that I really liked the series)
@Domper: I heard somewhere that Gilligan originally had an idea for 3-4 seasons. He knows how the story will end, but we'll probably know by 2030 (if the pauses between seasons are not too long).
@AndrewDosSantos: It feels like he has an idea for one season, but he has to pull it all the way to 4, because most of the series doesn't happen in it.
The scene with the girl at the beginning of the episode is just tinny. Everything seems so beautiful, the scenery is all around, the picture is bright... but the realization of what is happening and this melody they are humming is creepy.
Carol was pissed off at the moment and how well Manusos blurted out to her about a girl or the world)) Well, the atomic bomb smiled at the end, of course)
All in all, it's a very cool series. Yes, it's slow, yes it's long, and in some places it may be illogical, as other commentators write, but I personally am thrilled, and I missed it. Breaking Bad was my first series that I watched from beginning to end, and apparently Gilligan's style of filming is well imprinted in my mind, because I'm just drawn to the picture, the plot and the very idea of the series.
@ruda4ok: well, by the way, yes, I agree, the cgi background sometimes hurt the eye, but it didn't kill faith in what was happening) Let's hope that the budget will grow for the 2nd season. 😁
My comment on episode 5, "I'm waiting to meet a dog food eater," became a funny irony — formulate your wishes more clearly))
We met, and then what? We'll find out in a year
Everything would be fine and I like everything that is happening, but I want at least for the x2 — half of the season we were waiting for some progress in the line of struggle against "them". And in the end, a last-minute reunion? Thank you, we look forward to the next season.
So, in previous episodes, users predicted Carol's eggs...And they hit the bull's-eye! Not in the sense that you guessed it, but about the fact that stem cells cannot be isolated from eggs, because they seem to form after fertilization. Well, it was the same, guys, you had a heated discussion about it! And I remember, and that's why checkmate? Carol finally woke up. And it's funny that she chose the most proven tactic of mankind - nuclear deterrence. There is something well-known political about this.
@Redopera: They can be divided into stem cells, the same induced pluripotent cells that are mentioned in the hotel scene. It would be possible to redo somatic (ordinary) skin cells, but not in the context, they are not suitable.
I don't think anyone will use the bomb. This is purely a symbol for Carol and a reminder to her of how clueless Highmind is in his boundless desire to please.
in short: it's just very good from this series, you know how delicious popcorn is on the tongue and a cool picture on the screen, and may the whole world be under... oh, the atomic bomb was delivered, hehe🤭
To the commentators with many letters, thank you, sometimes I don't read books as much as I do here. Peace, friendship, red caviar!🎄
It's a very controversial series, it started so well and interestingly and ended up with almost nothing. I'm still wondering what's going to happen next, but I hope that next season there will be much less beautiful scenery and more dynamics, because in the middle of the season there is a slump.
I really like everything so far. Gilligan's trademark manner is that nothing much seems to happen, but the tension slowly builds up and you don't notice how the episode flew by. And then you realize that a lot of things have actually happened. I like the picture, I like the story, I like the actors. Ray Seahorn takes it out with a bang, but her character is far from the most pleasant. I like the fanatical, rare today adherence to the principle of "don't tell, but show." As for the atomic bomb, it seems to me that Carol uses it more as a figure of speech. What is she going to do with this bomb, will she put Manousos in front of textbooks on nuclear physics in English? And how will she bring together 7 billion people to end everything at once, Albuquerque is not rubbery. They gave her something they really didn't want to give, but they had to. Perhaps it has something to do with her cells and their work in this area.
Well, what can I say Overall, it's a good series with great actors. But as if it could be cut by a good third, or even longer. Well, like when the plane lands at the beginning, it's clear that they're carrying a special virus for the girl, but of course we'll stretch it out for 5 good minutes. And so it is with almost every scene. You already know how the episode will end, but it will be dragged on and on.. Otherwise, I liked it! There are a lot of topics for discussion, it is advisable to watch the series in a straight company and try to reason about the topics. Well, it's a mystery to me what Gilligan has planned for 4 seasons...
@eliasjune: It's different, it's for the main mission.)))) and so, in theory, this shows that in fact they are not such pacifists, another goal justifies the means, if this is our goal, the same hypocrites anyway.
Excellent introductory season 1. I'm surprised Lakshmi hasn't applied yet, she thought she would agree, although I wouldn't be surprised if everyone except Carol, Manousos and the Frenchman joined them in the end, and the three of them would save the world)))
@tamucca: I also thought about Lakshmi, and I decided that while Carol and Manousos are alive and unconverted, Lakshmi wants to be a mother hen for her huge family. Someone needs to keep an eye on numerous relatives and carry pillows in case Carol and Manousos throw a tantrum or scientific experiments again))
In general, everyone is lucky as hell that the virus is absolutely herbivorous and something is being carried around with them like a written bag.
Let's face it, this is a stupid assumption. And there's no point in it. Any normal virus would immediately strangle all the uncontrolled ones, given the threat they pose. Against the background of the billions killed, these are specks of dust.
@AMZ5: It's not even herbivory here, but necrophagy brought to absolutism - they can't even pick an apple. What surprises me is that the swarm is quite calm about the death of its own kind, and if a lion attacks any of them, they don't seem to be fighting off the prey from the predator, as this can cause pain to the lion. The unconverted pose a clear threat and it would seem beneficial to them that they kill themselves, for example, a donated grenade suggested this idea. But then why did Zosia, sacrificing herself, save Carol by covering her body during the explosion? Would she have saved her own kind in a similar situation? Probably not. It turns out that an individual is more than just an object requiring conversion for the swarm? It seems that the virus creates a maternal instinct in the swarm towards the unconverted.
I've just watched the first episode and noticed that there are 439 days on the timer at the beginning. Probably, in the terrestrial dimension, this is the period between the infection of the previous intelligent species and the transmission of the virus to a new one. If only we knew how long the signal was going, then it would be at least approximately clear how much time we have left.
@HighlyLikely: This is the number of days before the mass infection (the scene in the bar). On the stage at the ice hotel, it had been there for several thousand days.
@HighlyLikely: A light—year is a unit of distance (not time, right) that shows the distance that light (or rather, a lot of things, but in particular, light and radio waves) travels in a vacuum in one Earth year.
Accordingly, a radio signal travels 660 light-years in 660 years.
@chet_alex: perhaps this is a reference to the number of the beast 666. The signal flew for 660 years and infected the planet. After 6 years, taking into account the consumption of resources, lack of production and cannibalism, there will be no people left (by the way, the infected do not seem to reproduce, but only give birth to those who are already pregnant), and during this time a transmitter will be built that autonomously transmits the signal further. That's the end of the world.
@vladimir_che: Only when it exceeds reasonable limits. It's quite normal to communicate with someone even if you disagree (you were recently argued with), but there are too many disadvantages from her — often completely inadequate. I immediately recall the strangest negative to the explanation of the concept of "light year". An absolutely neutral definition (not an "opinion" or even a compliment to the series) — but apparently the girl has her own sources, I already know
At some point, this behavior becomes interesting, and the question "Why?" is simply not ironic. I discovered, by the way, that this crusade could have started with discussions of Stalin in the comments to Episode 2. If it's not a coincidence, then it's downright ridiculous - but okay, we have what we have.
@vladimir_che: Heh, and there wasn't this button from the mobile version (it disappears if the person blocks first), otherwise I would have done it right away. I went to the desktop, and YES, HERE IT IS
@chet_alex: I'll tell you a secret - I don't even see what's written in them before I put a minus sign)
and yes, by the way, thank you for your age - I feel like I'm 15 years old. but you've either forgotten how to count (although I don't know where you were looking for these numbers), or you're not playing well, drawing an unknown age in your sick brain.
I don't understand why Carol never tried to take Zosia to Chuck McGill's house, there's also a Faraday cage, it would be possible to disconnect her from the network, as an experiment, I hope Manusos will guess
A series that is interesting to watch, but which leaves nothing behind. There are quite a lot of beautiful camera angles, but few characters, dialogues, and actions in general. Gilligan relishes every scene, but it doesn't make sense. As a result, we see the finale - the bomb. But judging by the overall tone of the series, it's already clear how the next season will begin. "What are we going to do with her?" - I don't know, I just asked for a nuclear bomb. Despite the fact that she could have asked to stop developing her personal version of the virus. They have less than 10 years to figure out how to return people to their identities, otherwise humanity will die out. And without the knowledge of the collective mind, they will not have time to do this.
I was waiting for them to show how Manusos would finally eat normally. But in general, it's a pity for the kid! And as for interpersonal relationships, it often happens in life, like Carol and Zosia: one goes into a relationship with humanity and a real spark and feelings, and the other goes into a relationship with the established pattern of his environment and is often not the most attractive, and it also turns out to be bullshit, and really just want a nuclear to bomb the whole world (metaphorically) because your depth was not understood and not accepted.
It seems to me that this is not a bomb, but an analogue of the atomic bomb for this collective. Maybe a transmitter or some kind of signal blocker, or something like that. Like something that will destroy them
Absolute magic, I do not know how Vince Gilligan does it. The series is incredibly interesting, authentically shot, and each episode flies by very quickly despite the slow pace.
Istria about aliens is very original - I hope they will reveal the ent. The last episode was impressive - Carol was revealed as an extremely selfish character, showing that she does everything not to save humanity, but to save herself. The first season feels like a prologue - then the fight against aliens will begin and it will be incredibly interesting. 10/10
The series is fire. No, fire! to show Carol's sobriety so that she returns to critical thinking - well, just bravo! I hope they will reveal to us with flashbacks how Manousos came to the conclusion that people's consciousness is on a certain radio frequency) and of course the atomic bomb is just a fume)))
One of the best TV series released this year. I liked everything: the slow pace that allows you to immerse yourself in the atmosphere and enjoy beautiful shots (camerawork is bravo); the main character is not perfect, grumpy, sometimes terribly stupid - and this is a huge plus for me, she looks like a real living person, not a superhero who should save the world. You can find fault with the plot if you want (to be logical), but I won't do it. I don't watch fiction in order to look for realism in it. I also liked how much the "collective mind" turned out to be similar to AI, as Carol finally realized that Zosia was just an empty shell who had no feelings for her. It's funny that the author created the series when gpt was not yet in sight, but at the same time he got into the news) Post-viewing Mood: Stephen King
And one more thing, it is unclear why the main character had to be made a lesbian, what has changed from this.
That's how the subpoena is pushed through, drop by drop. Like, this is normal, this is how it should be. Gilligan sold out in his old age. I don't think I've ever suffered from shit-eating before.
@AMZ5: please do not watch foreign TV series, they are not "pushing" you. It's literally the same as turning on TV in a Muslim country and criticizing that all women are covered.
@ByTalya: Oh, boy. We are all raised by the cult of the USA, but not everyone understands this. I'm actually a girl who likes to watch gay TV shows. but the fact remains that the West always promotes the agenda. because it's so profitable for them, it's necessary. It doesn't matter if it's soft power or just maintaining a social status that they themselves have inflated like a soap bubble inside.
@AMZ5: I'm not a leftist. The ones you're thinking of usually call me Zetnik.
I mean, you're not even hypothetically the audience for whom this is being filmed. You go illegally yourself, download it/watch it, and then "THEY PUSH A SUBPOENA THROUGH TO ME." Look at the domestic works, a lot of good things have come out recently.
@exluminuxis: It's not like the whole West is different, either. Kirk, who was killed by leftists, or Tucker Carlson, who is still alive, is also the West.
They have their own agenda, Soros, for example (who is also a Westerner), has his own. And we're not even the first audience here. They need to destroy their own, to begin with, oddly enough. We are a secondary target.
@AMZ5: when they say "the whole", it means the MAJORITY by default. There are always exceptions, it goes without saying, is it worth mentioning every time? I don't seem to be like Dostoevsky)
I don't know what you think about the "purpose" of this for a long discussion. but the agenda is always as readable as possible.
and by the way, propaganda is not a bad thing, depending on how it is presented and against whom and to whom it is directed.) but that's just me, by the way. because I often see another one from Chinese cinema. such an elevation of moral values makes one feel and seem to wake up in order to throw off the arrogance of individuality.
@AMZ5: Vince himself said in one of the episodes of the podcast that the original idea of the series featured a man. I'm afraid it's not about the agenda, but about banal marketing. The LGBT* topic was most likely pushed from the top of the Apple leadership, because it can kill two birds with one stone.: 1) You can't talk badly about the series, because the creators will have a chance to get away with inclusivity, and 2) More people will watch the series cornyly.
@ruda4ok: He won't look at it anymore, even in the USA, the "rainbow theme" is rejected by many.
Probably, an offer has been received that cannot be refused. For example, gaming companies just get their hands twisted. The game will not receive funding without a propaganda agenda. However, in the end - go woke, go broke usually)
@AMZ5: it's more convenient this way, there are no children, no husband, she also has some kind of trouble with relatives and friends, fewer questions, it's easier to write a script
and it corresponds to the initial state of gg in any story - an orphan.
what are you afraid of, that after the series you want to become a lesbian? it doesn't work that way))
@AMZ5: Leftist propaganda is, of course, an abomination and a cancer that is killing the modern media industry. However, here the main character is shown to be as emotionally unstable, mentally immature and inconsistent as possible (especially in the last episode). So, from an ideological point of view, the heroine's orientation is presented from the right side: not at all complimentary, but as one of the details (or even a key detail) of her unhealthy image.
There seemed to be a rationale for the plot, too, so it was easier to put pressure on the heroine in the form of donated biological material. Here, by the way, for the sake of interest, you can practice by trying to remake the plot for the hetero, without losing the plot hooks along the way.
@vads: True, but almost the entire history of cinema has somehow managed without non-ordinary people and other mentally ill people. Like in another popular TV series, where one of the main characters comes out of the closet before the battle with evil) - there wasn't even a hint of this in the first season!
Why did it appear? This is the result of pressure on the creators, as an essential element without which there will be no work and funding.
Apple is one of the foundations of liberal propaganda. Gilligan was given so much money that he couldn't refuse.
PS: I'm not judging. It's always a matter of the amount)
@AMZ5: Cinema is a powerful tool for promoting any ideas, and it has always been used and will be used by those who have the resources to do so, depending on the current agenda.
Well, we now live in such a time, yes, with such a picture of the world. And it's even started to talk about who allegedly sold out there, who put pressure on whom, etc. The best thing you can do is keep your own sanity and ridicule motherfucking. Meanwhile, the pendulum has already begun to move in the other direction, fortunately.
What kind of "other popular TV series" is meant, I do not know. But if you have to scold someone, condemn someone, and laugh at someone, then I would use the fourth season of True Detective as an example. We should just try to make the most dumb, untalented leftist craft, as if it were assembled literally according to some kind of methodology. "Pluribus" can be considered almost neutral against the background of this.
@vads: Oh, right-wing losers, their rationalization and the gpt chat are a hellish mix. The pendulum has not swung anywhere, only in your world, well, maybe even in a couple of states where the same psychologically unstable grandfathers in power are in power. Develop emotional intelligence, an understanding of psychology and a general outlook - maybe then you will stop seeing the "terrible leftist agenda" everywhere.
Glasses have a strange aftertaste after watching the first season. It doesn't seem to be bad, it catches on, but this uncertainty and understatement is sometimes very prolonged. It will be interesting to watch the second season, but it's a solid 6 out of 10.
Very good. One of the best TV shows of the year, imho) for the first time I got high from a series in which literally nothing happens for whole episodes) Ray Seahorn is a wonderful actress)
interestingly, a series with a fantastic plot for housewives, whose character is a typical writer of women's novels, even the antagonist, a hot brunette, an orthodox inquisitor! it was interesting how it ended, but alas, the season of this series ended almost the same as any other series. But in Rick and Morty, everything was better handled, and in the 7-minute episode "When Yogurt took over the World", everything is much tougher and more believable!
The last 10 seconds of the series can't fix its slow flow, stingy plot, and Carroll's stupidity. Soryan, but I'm not in a gang of "pluribusanuts." Absolutely. No, I'm not ashamed, because there is a taste.
@Nikolaha: I wouldn't trust a man who gives 5 stars to the procedural "Chicago Firefighters" and the boring "Morning Show" subpoena, you really have good taste. 🤣
We started for health, but it turned out to be 2/3 of the filler series. I don't understand the excitement of the series, but the taste and color are as they say.
@MaratMuraviev: People love this series not for what it really is, but for what it wants to be, convincing themselves that it's something interesting, beautiful, smart, and Giligan is a genius.
@vladimir_che: judging by the number of your comments on each episode, this is straight classic: I've been chasing you for a long time to tell you that I don't care about you)
Manous meets with Carol, and they don't get along very well, a conflict arises, because the first one intends to bring everything back, but Carol is no longer there, as a result, she leaves for ~ 2 weeks with all the zombies, and they tell her that in 1-3 months they will receive stem cells from her frozen eggs and enslave her, she returns to Manous with the atomic bomb.
What a banality, like love for your own invented character, whose outer shell was kindly slipped by these damn things. And forget that lying in a tub with a piece of shit you're lying in a tub with the whole planet. Manousos, unlike Carol, is smart, he just took and found out everything from the original source. And even the shit said that he was very smart and got answers to questions that they didn't want to give answers to.
The series is actually a highly developed virus. But still, the virus and its purpose are simple. Its whole logic is the communication of everyone, and all this is in the nature of any virus. At any cost and in any way.
If it weren't for this, then in principle, an ideal world, no one touches anyone, you can live far from everyone.
This is probably the 5th time I've written this, but Carol is so dumb. when she told Zosa in all seriousness that she should love her more than manousosa and everyone else should also answer with the truth only to her.... I just don't know, I'm clutching my head. It's like she's 5 and she's telling a friend from the sandbox that he has to give her a shovel, otherwise she'll tell her mom everything. ?????????? why on earth would they single her out in any way?
if you choose the one who impresses you the most, then it's manusos. It's like he's crawled out of his shell and now he can come up with something based on the information he's just starting to receive. but they didn't really reveal it at all, so it's possible that this is only an inspiration at first.
but the fact that Carol could have brought a bomb, I'm not surprised at all. she's a stupid monkey) she can do anything, but it's unlikely to make sense or have any kind of plan.
@exluminuxis: Manousos wasted a lot of time getting to the USA. It would be ironic if, after healing, they remembered the bill for the hospital. But now, at least, he has taken up textbooks to learn the necessary knowledge to solve the problem.
An unacceptably slow series for 2025. It would be excusable if there were 2 times more episodes in it. But in this form it is some kind of mockery. I don't see a director's idea here, but the goal is to maximize the timing and save money. Otherwise, I'm glad that Manusos is like a ray of adequacy in this stuffy stupidity. Carol could have figured out a long time ago to take Zosia for a walk in the caves and see if she would have a stable connection with the collective consciousness.
So far, nothing is clear, but it is very interesting. There are a lot of questions. The series is catchy, even though we're moving slowly. It looked like a TV series in places: "The last man on Earth." I hope season 2 won't take long.
I knew, I knew, that these cute people are not so simple. I am sure that these are no longer humans - they are AI, which (as befits AI) strives for its development. That is why they are trying to understand why the virus has not affected some individuals and how to circumvent this restriction.
The soy girls are all so caring about nature, but at the same time they use cars with their exhausts and planes that eat fuel. What's the problem with farming then? And this stupidity with the release of animals. They are not capable of living in the wild and will stupidly die out. The chickens have been released, and the foxes will devour them. It's an imbecile concern.
As I thought, there will be a traitor to the survivors. It was obvious, but there was no interaction between the 13 in the series. And the conversion of the new bee passed even faster than from chemtrails.
It feels like they tried it in the final. But the difference is that Carol initially knew that there was no Zosia. But she chose to believe a lie. Lock myself in a maniac, set up a San Junipero.
I hope the Manusos is not rear-wheel drive.
The plot unfolding is very weak. 70% of the timekeeping is useless, if not more. Even the finale didn't give any clues. Also, the remaining six were never shown.
@driveshaft: Oh, who knows about the LGBT world like the wrong ones? People, develop emotional intelligence, read books, try psychology - maybe the hyperfiction on the subject of LGBT will subside a little. The feeling of timing will not be reduced to a banal action game. And you need to do something about rationalization, you won't always be sitting in your maniac with the paradigm "I don't understand, it means this is bad." Develop, get out of your comfort zone
how unanimously Carol was ostracized, like a stupid lustful girl. but you can look at it from the other side - she is not stupid and understands perfectly well that no reference books will tell you how to cure humanity of the scourge. there is only one option - to infiltrate the swarm, become one of your own among strangers, and getting closer to Zosia is necessary only for one thing - to find out their weak point, which, judging by the direct questions that put the swarm into a stupor, exists. I have no doubt that by asking indirect questions, Carol has finally put the whole puzzle together and now knows exactly how to heal people. Surely the contents of the container are connected with this tool. One can build different hypotheses, perhaps there is a connection with the radio frequency that Manusos picked up - maybe the swarm is communicating on it? Maybe you need a transmitter to break this connection, but why bring it in a container when all the largest radio stations in the world are available? Hopefully, the contents of the container won't be kept secret for long in the second season. I assume that there will be the following lines: 1. Frequent flashbacks regarding Carol and Zosi's "honeymoon." 2. I am almost sure that there will be a hot phase of confrontation between the remaining people. More precisely, between those who seek to return humanity to its original state and those who passionately want to leave everything as it is, we will not point fingers at it.
@Balysh: Many people liked Manousos because he did not give up, but began to learn and try to use new information. And Carol is more about yelling, but not doing something herself. The Las Vegas boy learned everything much more efficiently and faster.
@driveshaft: he began to learn and learn something thanks to the loud Carol, and without her screams he would have died in his den under the hiss of the radio station. And it was only thanks to Carol that he came into contact with the converted, so how independent is he?
No matter what anyone says, the series is really very good, the pace is delicious, but the number of comments and ratings proves that it is in the top series of the year 25.
I was thrilled, especially impressed by the work of the frame directors, wow. And the plot is not boneless, I think most of us would be like that guy from Las Vegas) Showed that no matter how introverted we are, we need a human society.
Waiting for the sequel) I was very pleased with the series this year)
The chalet really reminded me of the place where Joel was killed.
@AlexSok18: The top series is not an indicator. They watch what they hear. In addition, most users only watch Western TV series. Otherwise, the top would be in dramas, Turkish and Russian TV series.
@driveshaft: well, if a project is not interesting, I usually don't watch it, but there are so many comments under the finale) therefore, for some reason people watched, which means there is interest in the project, even if someone has a negative one)
@AlexSok18: 400 comments under the final episode? this is not enough, strange cases has 800 comments in the passing episodes, and 1200 in the final ones, not that strange cases is a super series, but comments on maishou are a bad measure from all sides)
@vladimir_che: The last episode of the first season of Stranger Things hasn't received even 800 comments in almost a decade? but I agree, the idea of evaluating series with the length of a commentary tape is so-so
@Balysh: it's not very accurate to compare with what it was 10 years ago, there were three users here)) Compare with what's over right now, here's the latest season of weirdness
@vladimir_che: Well, listen, OSD, this is already a kind of base, and this project is a contender. So you can see the opposite picture if you compare pluribus with some kind of Will Trent in popularity. To grow and grow to the level of SD + this is only the first season. Again, this is purely my opinion, for me he is the top 5 of the 25th year)
@vladimir_che: that's right, as well as it's not very accurate to compare the newly launched series with what has been actively promoted for ten years and which almost everyone knows about)
@Balysh: on the contrary, TV series usually die over the years, and this fresh, hyped, new one should break the already 5-year-old circle of boring strange cases, where people are hostages to the concept of 10 years ago
There's a spark of God in Gilligan when it comes to characters and humor.)
The narrative is a little different.
Everything went well at first. Slowly, but in his own direction. Then Carol was overwhelmed by the Mauritanian's lack of reaction to "human protein" — and then it turns out that the introductory ones have changed and the prospect of joining the broth has been neutralized. Carol exhales and softens in every sense.
Even before the main events, she was not enthusiastic about her lifestyle. And against the background of a global catastrophe, in a short time she was faced with loss, alienation (it is clearly visible that it hurts her), loneliness, with a lot of small things — like Helen's opinion about her magnum opus.
The logical thing happens. The direct threat has passed, and the heroine chooses the same thing as the other survivors. When the clock isn't ticking on your graduation as a person, what happened to others may not look so egregious. In a chthonic parasite that dissolves individuals and civilization, and leaves shells to starve, fauna, and any rustle, you can find "a lot of good things" — if you want to. That's understandable. I wouldn't even call it a chastisement. And the parallels with the rest of the immune and Vaikaro fans have such a backlight that take care of your eyes)
How did Carol get to the honeymoon with "Zosia"? According to the background, it is clear that she is not a virtuoso in search of a place in the sun, and chooses more "faint—hearted" but simple and convenient options that do not require spiritual expenses and provide superficial comfort. For example, she wants and could publish works that are close to herself. The editor mentally branded this an "average", but not an outright trash, unlike Vaikaro. Nevertheless, meeting a cool reception for something more personal and remaining in poverty is such a prospect.
The situation with the hive is similar. If you think about the state to which Carol eventually exhausted herself, in order not only to turn away from all her attitudes and consciously commit self-deception, but also to believe in him, it becomes sad. Well, at least for me)
At this point, her bowler hat perked up in time, and Gilligan finally brought along an antidepressant—like person who was not too far from science. With ready-made theories and a preliminary work plan.
I agree with the speakers who were mentally prepared for their last—minute meeting - it could have been worse.
But here's the thing. Around the middle of the season, after human protein and stem cells, the narrative turns to a line with "Zosia" and sticks there... how many episodes?.. At the same time, the main plot does not move in any way, the pieces of lore stop falling, the MVP of the season, Manusos, shuts up the timing with an intercontinental road movie. According to internal logic, this could be explained by his refusal to contact the hive, but hey! — when he finally gets to Carol, he gives up on it for the sake of the cause. After all, the trip was for the cause. The very branch of women's happiness with highmind could also be implemented differently — it plays a role in the character's image, but transparent, and, in my opinion, does not require so much space.
As a result, by the end of the season, the plot made a detour and rolled back to the middle. Of course, Manusos is here now, a big step forward. Compared to the previous content. It seems to me that this is the result of signing the series for two seasons at once — the first one was filmed with an attitude like a prelude, although one of the two or three-"until-Ray-gets-tired" implies composition and inner integrity. I don't mind a steady pace, but by the end I want a little more acceleration)
@scarlet_creation: I have a suspicion that, for the first time, Gilligan doesn't really know how to end this story or where to lead it. He's like Manusos at the same time, who "AHHH, the last few days are coming to burn everything to hell," and Carol, "what if everything isn't so bad, I'll watch and have a delicious vodka." In an interview, he said that he had come up with the plot before the whole neural network thing. And now, he's probably blown away by his own foresight. Now he's berating AI and its creators, who make money from plagiarism. But this is a talented person and not a fool, so he understands that this is clearly a big global trend, and it has been outlined for a long time, neurons are just a stage and a consequence. Just to offer a solution, the denouement of "putting everything back as it was" will no longer work. In both BB and Sol, the characters live in a gray moral zone, but there is still a background understanding of what is good and what is bad. Pluribus is a territory of the unknown, it's about the future, and what's good and what's evil – yes, there is progress, there is evolution, everything will change anyway and we can't get away from it. And since everything is happening fast now, it's tempting to wait a bit to see clues about where the world is heading. I think Gilligan would have been happy to bring this topic up to the presidential election to at least see where these left-right vacillations would move and with what consequences. He is afraid to give simple, understandable and incorrect answers to difficult questions.
It's strange that there are 9 episodes, not 8 or 10. In general, compared to the whole season, I'm satisfied with the eventful one. And I think I realized what's special about this series - the plot doesn't say much, and until some events happen, you constantly think about what remains behind the scenes in this world, it's like reading a book, thinking and visualizing the narrative.
I came across the same thoughts in the comments that I had when watching, nothing seems to be happening much, but you can't break away, and surprisingly, lately this is the series where I've been waiting for the episode to come out and the voiceover to be delivered. Still, I think that there's not an atomic bomb in the box, but something else, Carol just told me that so that Manusos would fuck with the audience, and now we've been tormenting ourselves for two years about what's in the box. I'm glad that the series was immediately signed for two seasons and the viewings are very high, so you don't have to worry about being closed.
What a stupid little girl from the tribe.. In fact, she just killed herself and that's it! And the moment when they were singing and suddenly stopped shows their attitude to all this, sectarians!
Carroll already considers Zosia his property, he is already jealous, even though she is the same individual as the others! Carroll says if you loved him, you wouldn't do this, would you? What other kind of love did you believe in with the "monster"? She was offended that they wanted to enslave her, even though they had said so from the very beginning!
Manosos found exactly the right station, would it be possible to bring a person out of this state? He was pretty close.
What can I say at the end? The Mauritanian asked the right questions and learned a lot of the truth, the Paraguayan found a station that can help.. And what did Carroll do? She drank incessantly, broke everything, "killed people", but in the end she had Stockholm syndrome? Zosia already considers her own property, which owes her something! I had sex with her a couple of times, and then I was offended that her cells wanted to!)
Carol has been disappointing all the recent episodes, even though she "woke up" at the end. But the Manosos is pleasantly pleasing. And yes, the goat scene is creepy, and it's probably the best thing that's happened in this episode. You understand how this virus kills all uniqueness and identity.
Overall, the beginning was much more interesting than the second half of the season. I hope the second season will be more fun.
The idea of the series is interesting, as is its execution. The main actress is awesome. But I didn't see any masterpiece or wine of the millennium. The second half, with the exception of the last episode, sags normally like this, it just feels like something interesting has been postponed for the next season/s. In general, in the era of neural networks, it certainly looks interesting.
Like for the main character. But at the end of the first season, for me it's 2.5 (confident average). It seemed unnecessarily stretched, I would like to see a high-quality season 2 and finale so that the ratings of the series would be justified for me.
I didn't plan to watch this series, but all the bloggers praised it so much that I gave up and turned it on. I waited for every episode that the plot was about to spin. But in the end, I hoped in vain. Don't tell me I have to go see tiktok. I really like measured, deep paintings. But I haven't seen anything "ingenious" here yet. Everything is very slow, very long and leads to nothing. I don't think I'll be watching season 2.
I support the comments above - I haven't seen more crap in a long time. Even from the Outside, the plot was more dynamic. It was immediately possible to tell everything in one movie. In short, another ug... Like Breaking Bad, call Saul and The Walking Dead there too.
A slow-paced series focused on visual trivia, constant repetition, and acting. Fortunately, Ray Seahorn is a wonderful actress who supports the local plot about an alien virus that has enslaved almost all of humanity. But yes, you shouldn't come to this series for action. He is slow, thoughtful, attentive, although sometimes not very logical. I got high and I'm waiting for the second season.
Initially, it's an interesting idea, but no main character spoils everything.Which is better in Call Saul, this wooden actress is here.And as a character, it doesn't arouse any sympathy either.
@Zloyvinc: First of all, they don't poke strangers, first understand this, and then maybe you'll start to understand something in acting.And secondly, the Golden Globe has not been an indicator for a long time, just like the Oscar.
@evelina_dentist: It's the Internet, baby, get it. I'll use you to address people I respect, but that doesn't apply to you. And what's your acting score? If you don't like an actress, it doesn't mean that she doesn't act well.
@Kosseff: Now, looking back, I'm starting to see their shots the same way. They didn't offer anything else here at all, I suspect there aren't many niches left for novelty.
@webbot: I think it's because Apple got the idea. They have all the content licked for a family audience. No experiments. No pressing questions. And in this world, it would be possible to turn around. But they made a soap opera.
It's just a series about a hysterical lesbian who has everything changing every other day. Menstruation is less frequent than her opinion changes. All the people who survived are more or less consistent, she would have been treated. The idea is interesting. The main character is just the main disadvantage of the series. Nonsense and complete boooooo
The series is watchable, but only at a speed of 1.5. And then, I flipped through a couple of moments even at this speed. The idea is interesting, the picture is beautiful, but why take so long and tedious to shoot all these scenes? Remove half of it and the meaning will not be lost at all. In short, if you cut out everything unnecessary, you'd get a great 4-5 episode season at the most, which could be watched at normal speed.
@xarizma: or not to do season 2, but to make a full-fledged 1 of 8-9 episodes. And now we have to wait for season 2 for a year or two to watch it again at speed in 1 day.))
@exluminuxis: I understand!))) but gilligan wankers put downsides)) any other opinion is unacceptable to them. But at least I'm not the only one, judging by the comments, I'm already happy))
@exluminuxis: I wasn't the only one watching, so 1×. Although I'm not sure that I would have put 1.5 × even. I don't really like this trend, it even scares me. I've been listening to Hs for 1.5 years, that's right. But watch movies and TV series at speed? I don't know...
@xarizma: in fact, I always respect the tempo of the series, which the creators considered correct. And I never watch TV shows at speed. But, I watched episode 1. I thought for a long time, and decided to give a chance to the 2 series. Sometimes it happens that the series doesn't catch on right away. But after the first crazy and empty 8 minutes of episode 2, I decided to set it to 1.5 in order to finish watching the episode faster and drop the series. But in the end, it turned out that 1.5 is much more interesting to watch)))
I looked at the scum for a long time and tediously, and in the last episode we were shown several more times that Kerol was scum. I hope the word doesn't fall under moderation, because I don't know how to describe my impressions concisely and I don't see it in the comments.
I really liked it, I'm surprised to see so many unhappy comments. I watched the whole series in one gulp with great pleasure. But here we should also take into account that I especially like the post-apocalypse, perhaps I'm not very objective.… However, I'm impressed with Carol, she's been praised for everything, but that's what makes her alive, isn't it? P.S. there's definitely not a bomb in the container.
@Helmer: It's too long. Well, really... That's not how the series is filmed. One scene lasts no more than 3 minutes (I studied screenwriting). And here... I don't know, it's the same place for 10+, have the characters been shown? It shouldn't be like this. Take a look at other projects.
@xarizma: You've either been studying screenwriting for a long time, or you've only recently started to get acquainted with dramatic cable series. Or, as many people have a problem these days, the phone has killed your concentration.
@xarizma: This is not “how they don't shoot”, but “how they teach beginners” so that you don't write chatter and learn editing thinking. “I studied screenwriting” in this conversation is like coming to a symphony and being outraged that the music is too long, because solfeggio was taught to write exercises in 16 bars. Professionals have been working with long scenes on TV for a long time: Armstrong, Fukunaga, Chase, Weiner, Lynch, and Gilligan.
@chopin: Man, if you're messing with music and that's the only thing you can shit on and that's all your arguments are based on, I feel sorry for you. some people know how to shoot, despite the length of the scenes and the timing in general, while others just fluidly focused on this series.
@exluminuxis: The man cited one point of his knowledge, and I answered with one of my own. I didn't know that here you need to take the doctrine with a minimum number of arguments. Liked/disliked is a taste, not an argument, which is what I pointed out. Neither education nor abstract "someone can do it" play a role here, my serial friend.
@4e4etka: the scene may last at least 10 minutes, BUT... it should be meaningful and move the plot. But sometimes nothing happens here for a long time, or it happens, but for a very long time. Why do we need to show in almost real time how Carol loads her friend's corpse into a car? So that what? There is such a thing as editing, where frames are cut and everything is clear to everyone. Such a long and unique scene does not carry any semantic load at all. Or the beginning of episode 2. Roughly speaking, 3 scenes for 8 minutes in complete silence. What for? So that what? If you cut them out, it will not affect the further understanding of what is happening at all. And so it has been all season. And you know, as soon as I turned on the 1.5 speed, I watched the 2-9 episodes of the season in one day/evening in one gulp, without being distracted by the "phone".
@volodyuka: Hitchcock is normal, although I haven't watched it for a long time, maybe I'll perceive it differently today. Tarkovsky's "Ivanov's Childhood" can be watched, the rest is also not watchable. I don't remember watching Kubrick. But they filmed it God knows how many years ago. A lot of things today are not watchable. Take a look at something from the 20-30 years, today it just doesn't look like anything (maybe with rare exceptions). Time is passing, and the perception is different - what was normal back then is not relevant today (I'm not talking about the topics, but about the filming itself, techniques, etc.). If everything is going to be too slow for you, then please, your right. But I'm expressing my opinion))
The first thing that caught my eye after watching the first episode is that the summary of the series is very far from the truth and not only here. And after reading it, I expected something completely different. For example, "something is always on fire in the city," but this is not true. In the first episode, after people woke up, they immediately started putting out fires. Or "the delivery service staff has become accommodating," but as we were shown, all infected people have become helpful, not just couriers, but that's just the way it is. The first episode was cheerful and inspiring, although there was some doubt that the writer would be able to find an antidote to an extraterrestrial virus only if it turned out to be something simple. But with each episode that followed, my enthusiasm got lower and lower. Since all the episodes basically boiled down to showing how Carol spends her time and her alcoholism. And I could understand her tantrums at the beginning of the series, she lost her girlfriend/wife, but after the grenade incident, I somehow became disillusioned with her. In between doing nothing and drinking, Carol tries to figure something out, but as soon as Helen's replacement appeared, she quickly abandoned the idea of saving humanity. And she returned to her as soon as the risk of her joining "them" loomed. We could show you more about how "they" live. Zosia mentioned that people are still being born, it would be interesting to see how "they" raise the future generation and how they generally spend their free time, but "they" need to rest. Well, it's also interesting to me that animals can be carriers of the virus, but they themselves are not adjacent to a single system. I liked Manousos more or less. He is more suitable for the role of the savior of the world. I expected him to get there faster, not in the last episode, and at least they'd give him more screen time.
@Yumiko_Takagi: And thinking about why Helen and the others died, I came to this conclusion. If you remove from the dead all those who were in the wrong place to start seizures and died in an accident, then the rest could die from, so to speak, "overload." The brain could simply not stand the fact that all the knowledge and memories of people all over the planet were loaded into it. After all, as Zosia said, adding a few thousand each, no one died.
@Yumiko_Takagi: I still have a question, too, because nothing was revealed in this stupid series. back in the first episodes, I argued about this in the comments, naively hoping that someone would give answers to these questions ... THE AUTHOR, FOR EXAMPLE???
Carol gave up, but she could have lived in a fairy tale. I returned to my principles. What's the point? She was finally happy. And she didn't walk around like a sad, evil shit, like she used to... Well, yes. The Paraguayan is a crazy nutcase... He screams, leaves money, give him the bill for the hospital. Man, you.... Oh, kick-ass, anyway.
Well, what a fucking bomb... And what will they do? Intimidate them (hive) or what.... Well, that.
In general, the series is philosophical. I'm still thinking about everything. But I guess I'd choose happiness to join in. I don't care if I walk or suffer. A la hero, to be a rescuer... To think of himself as the navel of the Earth, to save humanity? Oh, that's right...
In general, happiness and no stress. Not looking for something out there. They don't know (Carol and the Paraguayan) what to do with themselves.
@xarizma: when you turn, you lose your identity, that is, in fact, you die, and your body is controlled by a single mind, you walk around grinning like a zombie without freedom of choice, etc., dubious happiness. Carol and the Paraguayan don't want that, and neither would I.
The line with the Paraguayan is a bit crazy, the scriptwriters overdid it, then he is principled to the point of stupidity that he is ready to die because of them, now he is already violating his principles, they probably just wanted to show beautiful views of South America)
@Zloyvinc: there's no point in life anyway (globally). Yes, people find their own meaning, but not everyone succeeds. And sometimes they lose their meaning. But globally, it is absolutely not clear why we live. That's why I would choose happiness.
@xarizma: well, you can live happily without turning into a zombie) But once again, it will no longer be you as a person, just a shell without self-awareness. Like an ant, for example, if you ask him how happy he is?)
@Zloyvinc: Well, by the way, before the main events, the heroines tried to make progress in that direction. Carol was burdened by the fact that in her professional field she was the author of purely waste paper and was known to someone only for it. Helen advised to finish the production of a "normal" book, although she considered it of average quality. That is, one could not expect much from the critics, and the readers of the cycle would have accepted it without the usual enthusiasm. But it's better than nothing)
@xarizma: it was as if you were watching Pluribus as an instruction on "how to live comfortably", and not as a series about existential conflict, resistance and the consequences of losing freedom. Somehow, it all came down to yourself and your "convenient principles" in your story about a real virus, where if you put up with it and don't fight, it's not enlightenment, but lack of immunity... Happiness without freedom is just an illusion. The series shows that the characters choose to act, even if they suffer, in order not to become a "zombie" in someone else's game.
@Kalinesco: Do you think we're not zombies in someone's game right now? Let everyone decide for themselves about the Freemasons. But who told you that we are now making a decision for ourselves, and not someone made it for us a long time ago, but only gave us the illusion of a choice? 😅
@xarizma: the trick is that Carol's "happiness" would not last long , they have her eggs and she will inevitably join them in a couple of months , so in any case, she had to come out of this illusion to find a solution to the problem
What a wonderful mediation series. Yes, and beautifully shot!
I watched the last three episodes in one gulp and am satisfied. I don't watch the series for the sake of promoting the plot, I just like watching what's happening on the screen. I even liked Manousos' trip.
The only negative is that it is now unclear how long to wait for the release of the new season. Hopefully not for two years.
For me personally, the most powerful episode was with the girl from Peru. We have been clearly shown that after "conversion" all boundaries of culture, relationships and attachments are erased. It was as if the scenery had been assembled and the stage had been cleared.
Of course, the "gun" with the eggs went off, and we were told about them several times. In general, I almost immediately thought that they could be used somehow. Perhaps they will grow an embryo? Who knows.
Well, the final point is Carroll's understanding that Zosia doesn't like her as a person, as a person. Yes, and Zosia can't really love. It's sad and sobering at the same time.
Why did Carol listen to a long answering machine message countless times? And we're with her. Why didn't you tell me to shorten it to "speak after the beep"?
Carol tossed and turned, realizing that this was an illusion, but as a result, she still chose the latter between "saving the world" and "the joys of a love affair with Zosia." With this choice, didn't she demonstrate that she, like a number of other individuals in real life, doesn't care about others at all, her shirt is closer to her body? Financial limitlessness, a wonderful climate, golf, an evening bow in an expensive restaurant, a massage with several hands, a fireplace at a ski resort, a book by the pool, and a companion/companion swims in it (well, who has any preferences), whose main task is to make Carol happy, she certainly won't install a secret camera and she won't pretend that she likes Carol's work, the thrill of discussing the first chapter with them, all desires are instantly fulfilled, just pick up the phone and tell her. Not life, but every woman's dream. And the fact that the companion/companion has a fig in his bosom, well, it's the same everywhere in real life. And a nuclear bomb is every woman's realized dream of revenge for the fact that the idyll turned out to be a lie.
The good thing about the series is that each viewer reads their own meanings. And this is possible due to the fabulousness of the plot. Many thanks to the author of the idea for it.
The bomb has a strange square shape, by the way. It's not a cannon ball, it's supposed to be elongated, isn't it?
@915329rita: The nuclear bombs are generally of different sizes, and not very large in general, not all of them like the "kid", "fat man" or "tsar bomba", most of them should fit into a fairly compact container of the separable warhead of a nuclear missile, each warhead is the size of a chair. A significant part of those that the Chinese will bomb us with, if they suddenly choose, even less, for suspension on fighter jets, or in the form of cruise missile warheads. in the box that Carol was shipped, you can cram from one to a hundred.
@915329rita: It's not a bomb, it's just a figure of speech! It was already read based on the plot, well, it was already written there that Gilligan himself admitted in a podcast or somewhere else that Apple had asked him to finish the season bombishly and that allegedly he himself had not yet figured out how to resolve this topic in the second season.
The whole highway (and Zosia in particular) very dreamily describe how well and happily they live in this universal mind. Therefore, the forecast for the next season: since all events are developing very slowly, Manousos and Carol, God forbid, in the last episode they will be able to heal someone. Alas, the cured character will not live long, because the emotions received from life in the highway are head and shoulders above those of an ordinary person. He will remember all this, be sad, and commit suicide. Therefore, the third season of gg will resolve these conflicts. Or the aliens will finally arrive!
Overall, it's not a bad series, but no more. My expectations, of course, are my problems, but I expected more from the series. There is a lot of excess, incredibly few interesting characters, chewing the same thing for the viewer.
I don't share the excitement about the series. The case when it was possible to make do with a film, and it was unlikely that it would have lasted even up to an hour and a half.
To be honest, I'm sorry for the time spent. It was long, necessary, uninteresting — just boring.
"Cool series", of all the episodes, I watched only the first one, the rest of the time I spent on comments, they are much more interesting than the series....an hour of wasted time....
When they recommended the series to me, they said, "It's finished, look. However, the ending is not clear." Well, I looked at it...So there's still shooting and filming. The beginning was perfect, a couple of episodes were boring, but the last one regained interest. I can't talk to Carol, as she says. I don't know why, but of all the things I remember most about the empty store and how it was filled, food was delivered, I thought, oh, so that I could live like this. Well, I feel sorry for the little goat. In general, this episode was about a girl, she was so silent, almost no attention was paid to her at the beginning, but here is a separate piece, it's even creepy.
At the moment of the girl's treatment, goosebumps already began. It turned out to be a very strong scene. And how abruptly they stopped singing and walked away. It's creepy. And the poor goat that ran after her...
The slow exposure doesn't scare me, and in general, there is trust in Vince, but I would like us to get at least some answers to the questions. Now it seems that he came up with a gorgeous beginning and end. And he will be working on the middle now.
Among the recent TV series I've watched, this one is not the most exciting, but perhaps the most interesting. Something barely perceptible emanates from the "City" of Saimak, whose work I admired in my youth. So what kind of makar will this wonderful couple (in the person of Carol and Manousos) save humanity? I'm waiting for their desperate confrontation with Diabate
The series has an interesting plot, but my interest in it was aroused after watching episode 4... for me it's a slow and drawn-out story that leads nowhere.
Yes, it's amazing how loneliness changes a person, and accordingly, how affection and care, albeit imaginary, affect them) By the way, I noticed how Zosia's image and style changed at the end of the season, as if she had adjusted to the type that Carol likes, well, not as if, but it is.
The plot is not bad, we are waiting for the sequel. And, of course, it was possible to show a lot more in 9 episodes, but it's a big deal, but the picture is mega beautiful)
@ArtchibalD: It seems to me that the distribution is the main priority for Highwind. There, at the beginning of the infection, almost a billion people were "crossed out". The secondary priority is to fulfill the wishes of non-aligned countries.
Discussion: Season 1, Episode 9 Join the Discussion
599With your youthful maximalism (18 years old, heh, I'm already jealous) this is quite normal, somehow even zero complaints. But blocking and disliking (taking advantage of the fact that you can't be blocked now) is somehow, ahem, unsportsmanlike :)
I sincerely wish you to stop "crying, stabbing, but continue to chew the cactus" — and start commenting only on those series that you like.
even if May shows hidden social networks, and there is only one - and another date.
and anyway) since the consumers of shit don't carry authority for me, his opinion is a funny set of letters for me.
It's just ridiculous that you decided to put some emphasis on age, but whose age is it? He's beautiful, I agree) I would proudly wear the sign "I was born in 2007" if, in this case, the baggage of the background had not evaporated along with other years with:
you can always block anyone, even here you are critically mistaken. Grandpa, maybe pills?
I feel like a dumb Carol talking to you, and you're Roy. I am free to comment on what I want and how I want, limited only by the rules of the site < 3
but I wrote on social networks about the target audience of this series based on the comments in this application/website.) THIS is much more interesting hehe
In general, in this series, this moment, which is at the end with Zosia, perfectly shows the danger of the "virus".
Plus, I'm curious to know something about the song that the girls sang during the ceremony. In what circumstances was it performed by the people before: funeral, wedding, birth?
They gave her an atomic bomb after all! It wasn't perfect, but it turned out to be a pretty good ending. The meeting between Carol and Manousos and all their scenes did not disappoint - in general, Manousos is a cool guy (even when he was shouting in Rick's face), I hope he will decipher the waves and find a solution.
By the way, he reminded Carol from the first episode of the same desire to fix the situation. But Carol was completely relaxed, funny when she talked about love, "you're mine.." Zosa, in general, the scenes with Zosia are great as always, I can't stop being awesome at how they manipulate. But it's good that Carol found out about the frozen cells and is now in the "
get a girl, save the world" mode.Great series, Ray Seahorn is very good, see you in 2 years
Over the course of 9 episodes, we were shown how Carol Sturka is a psychoemotionally immature, impulsive person, unable to control herself even in front of a small group of "untouchables" (which she assembled herself), pouring alcohol until she blacked out in front of them, and not ready to understand what she ultimately wants to achieve. At the same time, she tends to haunt those who are happy with the current situation.
The highlight, of course, was episode 8, where Carol was initially outraged when she realized that the renovated cafe was a scene played out for her, and in the evening of the same day she happily bought into the scene with a different entourage, limp from a woman who was exactly the same GG of her romantic fiction. And here it is worth paying tribute to the authors, because it was comical to watch Carol appear in literally the same light as the readers who are prone to escapism through her books, whom she arrogantly and disdainfully muddles at the beginning of the season, and by the end forgets about her dead spouse and the apocalypse thanks to a mini-honeymoon with the hero of her own dreams in the flesh.
As a result, the only sobering factor becomes the awareness of impending death (which, in fact, is the merger with Highmind). But even that only leads to a shift in focus to a new game: "Now I'm saving the world with you, Manusos, and not playing out a romantic arc with my pirate," and to the explosive hypertrophy of her fragile ego, as we see from the fake (quantitative, but not qualitative) growth of the character from "bring me a grenade." before "bring me the atomic bomb."
Given the above, it is clear that the audience who are impressed by the character of Carol Sturka is the same kind of berry as those who, say, are running around with Patrick Bateman, who is now popular in memes, impressed by the spectacular antics, but deaf to the essence of the audience.
but manousos is certainly a pleasure to watch.
It's funny, but we have not received any confirmation or refutation of the hypothesis that he was part of the highway before the first genocide of Carol.. although the confidence with which he performed his couch exorcism hints that he knows something about the subjective life of the plurbs first-hand. : "I know you're there, and you can remember.". Or maybe he just conducted his interrogation of Zosi with honors
. Judging by his books (from the library, very nice), we will see the mentioned Faraday cage next season.
Well, it was nice to theorize in the comments, see you in two years at best :D
And so, yes, the global neural network manipulated her beautifully. But Manousos, being moderately sociophobic or moralistic, showed her that she had become too accepting of the current situation. Without him, the whole story would have died out in the third month, until they would all have been assimilated. It's not for nothing that all dissenters are quite lonely people, separated from or deprived of close assimilated relatives or loved ones.
>hypotheses that it was part of the highway before the first genocide of carol
Where can I read more about the hypothesis, how is it Googled? It's not very clear what this assumption is based on, but it would be interesting to read, it's a cool idea.
A Reddit post with this theory is called I think I know why they discovered Manousos (the paraguayan man) so "late"
My personal feeling is that the ambiguity was left intentionally to give the writers room to maneuver when writing the next season.
Does he know about the origin?
1. Manusos was fed not with milk with substances, but with ordinary products left in stores, like everyone else. And he did not eat them out of distrust and principles.
2. When he arrives at Carol's, he offers to kill a lot, because he believes that the process is irreversible. It is only after a dialogue with her and Zosia that he conducts his experiment and realizes that people can be saved by drowning out the frequency of their waves.
But that's why he was initially looking for these waves and where he was before that, which was not immediately discovered, is very interesting and leaves questions. I hope the next season starts with a story about him. By the end of it, he was more interesting to watch than Carol's changing shoes.
2. Mm, well, not really about murder and irreversibility. he understands plurbes more as malicious individual entities that have taken over human bodies, and suggests detruire, destroying them, and in the next sentence says "if you can't bring people back as they were, then it's better to kill them." plus, he leaves money on the way, which hints that he has at least some idea in his head that everyone can be "cured."
We have been informed of the fact that it was not immediately discovered. for some reason. if you arm yourself with Occam's razor, then it is simply designed to complement the portrait of manousos - it immediately informs us about his isolation, and is an exposition for the beginning of the next series, explaining why he is locked up because he simply overslept the beginning of the apocalypse while sitting on shift in his cubicle.
I don't know.. in everything that they show and tell us about him, there is a certain degree of fanatical excess. dog food, refusing help, walking through the jungle. Since we don't have any tangible assumptions about how people would actually behave in such a situation, there's no place to start from in assessing the normality of his behavior. therefore, looking at this excess, we can think that it's just his exceptionally principled character, beliefs, faith, soldier's background, unique stubbornness, etc. but if we consider the idea that he was part of the highway, then the manifestations of his intolerance and paranoia are a little easier explained by the fact that he saw some game while hanging out with everyone.. xs, I'm not convinced of this theory myself)
As for the waves, the simplest and most logical assumption is simply to look for other survivors like them.
I agree that I would like to know more about his first day. I wouldn't be surprised if the new season starts with flashbacks, from his point of view.
In general, a separate argument against this theory is that if you come to another survivor with this knowledge to plan a fight, then you should ask her from the doorstep if she knows about the compromising diet of these demons, especially noting that she has developed sympathy for them..
and didn't he later find out from Carol that Roy feeds on human flesh-she sent a note about it to everyone who survived?
Like he's trying to save humanity. Yeah. A hero, damn it!
This is the imperative of this "nevirus" - to make everyone happy.
you can fantasize that the vapors were made specifically for her from her cells, but what prevents you from doing the same with the rest of the immune system? as the series has shown, the consent of the immune mind is not required, they will do everything without it and try to convert them.
A story facup is coming out.
and if we go further, then Highmind said that he could not lie, but it turns out that they lied when they said that without the consent of the immune cells, cells would not be taken from them and they would not be stripped.
well, or the 2nd story facup.
But where I see a violation of logic, but not of the series, but of Carol, is that she can request her eggs immediately and they will have to comply.
And ruin the whole series with one smart decision? You're crazy. You would also advise Ned Stark to keep quiet...
1. Do not harm the living
2. Do not give out information that could kill them and avoid danger or dangerous people.
If they had acted more aggressively, they would already be a potential threat to their creators, but a simple "No" is enough to forbid them to convert you if they need stem cells from you.
The funny thing is that there are people in the series who, at the very foundation of their cultures, have the idea that people are one, and not just people, but all living things in general. It's us, people with European culture, who can't understand, but how can it be, it just doesn't fit in our heads. We are the same as the American Carol, who, against the background of the American flag on the plane, tells everyone else, other people from a different culture, that we need to save the world, otherwise it will be bad for everyone! And Manousos is generally a security guard of a warehouse, private property, he is ready to kill for it. That is, he is ready to kill for material things, for him, first of all, the material part of the personality is important, unlike the "weirdos" who honor the idea in the personality, the personality itself.
Well, speaking of cultures. We have all been drawn to this community since birth, destroying other cultures. We are a product of this community. We speak Russian and destroy some culture. We're learning English, doing the same thing. And first of all, culture is about people, not houses with baby goats. And in the series, everything seems to be in order with the preservation of identity.
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There are no more personalities on Earth except the remaining 12. No.
Initially 12
Plus Manusos from Asuncion
Minus the Peruvian
Here, 12
In order for the series to be perceived as really cool, episode 9 had to be the fourth or fifth in the first season, after which Carol and Manousos would save the world in the rest, because their mixing was already in the beginning. But in the final episode, the classic Gilligan finally began to be viewed and the foundation for the future was created well enough to continue watching further.
To me, it was the perfect pace for this series.
But in the last episode, some kind of eventfulness really began, the plot progressed at a rapid pace compared to what it used to be. Gilligan, in theory, can support him, if the confrontation with the "weirdos" becomes open, something new will be told about them in each episode, Manusos will learn how to return people to their normal appearance, maybe the "weirdos" in this case will not become so peaceful and meat in the style of Walkers will begin. In general, there are options for how to disperse the plot.
Although maybe I'm being too optimistic about Episode 9, it just exceeded all expectations in terms of the number of events that took place. I waited for Manousos' car to be filmed from a drone for 20 minutes, so many more minutes of empty conversations between Carol and Zosi, and only in the last seconds, perhaps (but not exactly), the appearance of Manousos on Carol's doorstep. As a result, Gilligan piled on so much that it could be enough for about 5 episodes of the second season, if we take as a basis how he provided information before that.
I want something new, and it's new — this deliberately slow analysis of all the emotional swings of the first 2.5 months. It couldn't be that everyone is ready to fight for the future right away, these are ordinary people who may well be in complete shock. And then I'm shocked again, but in a different way. And then start deceiving yourself that you can live as usual in such conditions. And so on
What a weak aura
ps why didn't Carol realize that, in general, the agency, which she clung to even in the last dialogue with Zosia, would in fact make no sense with her similar kind of life? to live the rest of your days side-by-side with a character specially made for you? I can't believe she could do it with her eternal awl in her ass, which, in principle, was shown.
It was like being hit on the head.
Well, yes, in general, the ending was good, I got exactly what I expected from the meeting between Carol and Manousosa. Excellent dynamics. He is quite ruthless, but this ruthlessness is necessary, no matter how strange it may sound. Carol still feels guilty for those 11 million deaths and believed in their "love" with Zosia, Manousos does not have such baggage.
It was clear that Zosia was and remains a part of the Hive, but Carol surprised me. I didn't think she was so caught up in this self-deception about love. But I am glad that in the end the realization came.
At the same time, it's so amazing that in the last episode Carol managed to get something really personal about the "individual" Zosa, but it never even occurred to her to ask about Zosa's "personal" free will - or maybe it did, but she didn't want to know the truth, because it's generally easy to assume. She was deeply hurt by the waitress who was pulled out of the diner for the sake of the performance, but she did not ask if the real Zosia would ever want to spend time with her, Carol, make friends and sleep. The team is very interested in pleasing. I understand that it may be too much to demand such awareness from Carol, who has been in isolation, but this is something that would worry me personally. She even tries, throwing in a question about exes, but she doesn't have the heart to really ask, and she doesn't put the squeeze on it again. It seems that it was still difficult for Carol to finally realize how much all the old people are now the primary soup, until the moment when it became impossible to deny. Maybe the psyche is so protected, understanding is scary. That's why this shameful pang of resentment is because broth loves the unpleasant Paraguayan as much as she loves her special and only one. After all, self-deception, when you yourself know that it is self-deception, cannot last forever.
It is very interesting that by asking how much time she has before "joining", Carol looks and reacts like a terminally ill person to the information about the diagnosis. Which underlines that for us, the dissolution of the self is indeed the equivalent of death.
It's a good series. A lot of things make you think not about the plot or the characters, but about yourself.
And the moment with the "Left Hand of Darkness" is just suddenly relevant.
But I won't be watching the next seasons online.
True fans and researchers have been looking for a video this week that Gilligan specifically recorded. Marketing solutions- such as advertising on refrigerators, running lines on Google, etc. - are great, I miss such companies.
Let marketers think about how to make it legible that this is an advertisement.
Well, even if you follow the logic of the series. Carol may ask to return all her eggs, and they will be OBLIGED to return them to her, because it follows their logic to please. That's it, and she continues to enjoy Zosia for the rest of her life.
But in fact, Gilligan is now manipulating history as he wants, if he turns his own rules into conventions.
The moment of the appeal was perfectly shot, although predictably, it was immediately clear that after the appeal she would simply stand up and become one, there would be no hugs or congratulations. But it was beautifully shot.
It doesn't matter about the atomic bomb, I don't think this "Gun" will go off, it's more like for the viewer to show that the story in the second season will raise the degree more.
P.S. In general, I would look at such a development, Manusos slams Carol so as not to interfere (in the middle of this episode) and the second season is devoted to how he will radically deal with them)
In the Vegas episode, Carol asked, "Is it true that you need my table cages," they answered, "yes," "is it true that you need to put a needle in me and you need my permission to do this," they replied, "yes." That is, the whole point was to agree to permission to extract cells from the body, not permission to infect it. And if they had another way to get the cells and achieve their main goal, why would they need Carol's consent at all (again, did the other 7 billion give their consent?).
Here, as in one of the first episodes with a question and answer about vegetarians, they specifically answer so "interestingly" to mislead. Well, even in this episode, in fact, they manipulated a girl from Peru.
And the topic of completing the wishlist is not above their main goal, and if Carol asks, they won't give a damn to her. If they could infect the water in the world to convert, they would do so. Without asking any Carols, Manusos, etc. In fact, there were only a few ways of infection shown in the first episode.
Yes, it's all broken down by the fact that Carol could just as well ask for all this stuff to be given to her during the cooking process and destroyed, making sure that they don't mess up anything else secretly. But trust in them is still undermined and they would not stop, plus they are not such truth-tellers and evade answers on painful topics for themselves. Here she comes to a real understanding that "weirdos" are a real threat and they need to be turned back into normal people, and all this romance with Zosia is life in pink glasses
Avoiding answers is not cheating. Even in this episode, Zosia told Carol that Magnus asked the exact questions and we had to answer. Literally erasing the series, it answers the question that they are required to do everything they are literally and precisely asked to do.
1. causing physical pain
2. cheating
and they fulfill the wishes of the remaining people only if these desires do not contradict the goals of their swarm.
For example, they will no longer comply with Manusos' requirement to bring another individual to him for an experiment.
3. Please
They have repeatedly said that they will fulfill any request. When it was about a grenade, or an atomic bomb in the hospital. They were well aware that it could explode and some of the "individuals" would die in the process. So this means that their instinct for self-preservation is expressed only in distancing themselves from dangerous people who can yell and "reset" them, since this affects absolutely the entire "we", and not a separate group of individuals. Or they may keep silent about information that threatens their existence.
The request to return their eggs does not pose a threat to them in any way, but only creates a violation in their plan, according to its "connection", but they have no emotions and "they" would interpret it like this:
"we comply with the request, we give the eggs, we start looking for another way for her to join,"
All the rest is pulling the owl on the globe to protect the great Gilligan.
, otherwise, at the beginning of the series, when gg said she did not agree to apply, Roy would have replied "we obey and obey," but no, they said they would convert her and she would realize that she was mistaken in her desire to remain
an individual.E. conversion or death of a person is a priority, and everything that does not interfere with this priority can be fulfilled.
You can also do things that don't pose a threat to the virus.
Therefore, everything that poses an immediate threat to IT (not to individuals, but to the virus as a whole) they certainly do not comply, this includes withholding information about how to get rid of it, avoiding "toxins" that pose a threat.
The eggs themselves do not pose any threat, as well as the request to return them, they only delay one of the chances for Carol to "join". Therefore, they would have completed it and started looking for another way to "connect" it.
In any case, it was the most obvious question for her, and then Gilligan could come up with a reason why the eggs could no longer be returned. But apparently it turned out to be very difficult to justify and they just gave up on it.
Otherwise, we could easily beat any option:
- get your eggs, we no longer need them, we have already done everything we need to get stem cells.
- we will return them to you along with happy gas.
- I'm sorry, Carol, we still treat you the same way, but they are currently in operation, but we will immediately return them to you when the time
comes or something else
, but I repeat, Roy is not obliged to fulfill absolutely all requests from individuals, another thing is that the viewer did not hear the necessary request.
, maybe the very eggs to which the device is added as a gift, with which Carol and Manusosum will create a vaccine for the entire second season?
, and if you also fly into the vastness of fantasy, then you can assume that with the atomic bomb (Carol's eggs) in the container there is a detonator in the person of the hostage Zosia - she is definitely a specialist in virology)))
It's a good series, and it's nice to see Ray on the screen again.) I'm really looking forward to the second season, I hope it will be released faster than the Division of the same
But the season ended perfectly, the cliffhanger with an atomic bomb is explosive in every sense of the word))
Why didn't Manusos ask for books on radio engineering in Spanish, since he was already communicating with the hive, living in someone else's house, and had clearly tempered his principles. Translating technical literature with a dictionary is generally unrealistic, there are special translators for this, and without knowledge of the language it is generally meaningless.
Perhaps by removing your unjustified racism, you would at least be able to understand that Manousos is not an Arab and thought that he might have a technical education and understand much more, since he researched radio waves than the writer.
Well, with Carol, yes, Vince was outsmarted. It turned out that Carol was really mentally retarded, fell in love with Zosia in a month and forgot about what she had learned in the first episodes — one might have thought that this was a multi-trick to outwit the highway
@Djigman:
People learn the concept of self-deception. 2025, photo in color.
Yes, Camon, well, sketch it out, Carol was well aware of what she was doing. I knew that there was no love here, I just constructed a fantasy, escaped to the land of rainbows and concepts. Just like most people turn a blind eye to uncomfortable topics, situations, and problems in the hope of "well, it'll sort itself out somehow!"
After Manousos almost killed her pet, she was afraid that she would lose what little she had left, and realized that she had to live for today. Well, they can't force her to join)))))) Oh, oh. Oops!
It's especially funny to watch such nonsense in a series that consists of 70% fillers, i.e. there was more than enough time to adequately register the development of attachment and a change in attitude towards biorobotics. To show how Zosia manipulates and falls in love with herself, but Vince is a genius — it was enough to rub her furry legs to convince Carol.
He's sitting here, talking
Yes, I squandered it in some places, I wanted to get the action as soon as possible, but I also enjoyed the measured style in some places.
I saw some similarities with the "World of the Wild West", where people also fell in love with artificial intelligence, with a black mirror where there were stories about how the hero had feelings for an "unreal" object.
And "freaks" are "unreal" for an ordinary person, they are like artificial intelligence - they say what a person wants to hear, echo him, but in depth they realize their ultimate goals.
I don't think there's much point in demanding the eggs back — they've already figured something out and will continue to work anyway to figure out how to put the heroine in their chains.
I will look forward to the second season with interest)
, and the bees understood this.
I wonder what happened to them during production in this fight for a smartphone scene, why they decided to redo it on the green, because the rest of the moments of their meeting were filmed in a real location.
at the beginning of the episode, it was made clear that the girl was preparing to join on her own. Of course, they knew that she might fall, and since they are pseudo-pacifists, they put a blanket on her.
And about Manousos, Zosia said bluntly that he had warned them about his actions before.
And how these two judgments lead to the idea that if Carol hadn't started to get hysterical, her mind would have retreated, I didn't understand at all. Maybe he really would have turned off this particular guy, but certainly not because two individuals had a place to fall))
The virus itself originally came from outer space, as it was shown in the first episodes. Maybe the signal caught by Manusos is an antivirus?
Who knows what would have happened if Carol hadn't come in? No wonder they quickly all jumped out of the city at once.
Only Manusos didn't initially signal them down. Because at first he was sitting next to the guy without a receiver, and later he ran to the car and took out a notebook with wave numbers from his bag and took out the receiver from there. Therefore, it is clearly not the radio signal that affected them in this series, but it may actually be an antidote)
Eh, now we have to wait at least a year for the second season (
- Carol was very annoying in this episode, quickly and, frankly, her mind was somehow pointlessly obscured as soon as the Hive pissed in her ears, plus she forbade receiving her stem cells many times, but they didn't give a damn about all this, where is their honesty, which she defended in front of Manusos?
And the final accusatory "you won" made it even more like Manousos was to blame for something. 🤣
- The first meeting with Manousos is probably my favorite moment of humor concentration for the whole season. 😁
- The season ended well, I hope they won't keep us waiting long for the sequel, and in the comments to the second season we won't see individuals who are always unhappy and still watching.
P.S. HAVE A NICE HOLIDAY AND HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL OF YOU
The season turned out to be very cool for me personally, I liked everything, as I wrote earlier — "Vince Gilligan won't shoot any bullshit."
The scene on a green background with the fight for the phone was a bit upsetting...
Well, actually, I liked the series as a whole, it's just a pity there aren't enough episodes in the season, there would be at least 20 pieces, otherwise wait 2 seasons for 2 years for what? To find out that it is possible to block the signal? Is this the way to separate a person?
Although I will add, I like Manusos because he is not afraid that he will kill a lot of people and acts as he should, observation, testing, result. It was lucky that such a person remained himself and did not join them. Well, in general, I understand him, it's better to really kill everyone than if they stay like that, they're not people anymore. Even if 70% of the population has to be killed to save 30% from the virus, it will be worth it.
As I said before, this alien virus of slavery is obvious to me. But now we have realized that this is a smart, super effective virus. We were shown how they deceive people, how they managed to turn a girl into the same weirdo, this whole circus was in order to turn her, i.e. this is the main task of the virus, to turn an intelligent person into nothing.
Who is Otter in fact? Well, it's just a body, and they (the weirdos) gave her this body, and Carol just starts to get a liking for weirdos through her, although it's just a shell, there's no personality in the Otter, it's just one big collective mind that has all the memories of people.
And Carol was already so brainwashed that she grabbed a gun just to save the body she has sexual desires for, nothing more, it's so funny and brilliant, because she herself was doing the same thing as the Paraguayan, killing millions tens of millions of people with her tantrums, and now this Paraguayan is crazy for her, although He is the most adequate person on planet Earth at the moment.
And what is its super-efficiency? Or is it sarcasm?
First, the virus signal must be picked up by an advanced civilization. The chance of such a random event is about 0. Then decrypt. Then create a strain. Then a safety accident must occur for the virus to get out of control. The efficiency is off the charts.
Let the moment of infection itself be rather banal, but it is so filmed. This does not negate the ingenuity of the virus transmission scheme to the victim.
People are capable of great good and great evil, they torture their fellow human beings for their own pleasure and create the greatest art, advanced medicine and the destruction of themselves by industry, science and religion, reason and feelings, people are a spectrum and a vortex of cultures, and each person is a separate universe with a unique experience - two identical psychics simply do not exist It exists.
Therefore, for me, there is not even a question of which side I am on: what is shown is no longer humanity. Although opponents will say, "how great it is, because there is no crime and all social problems." Of course they don't exist - it's not a society anymore.
Manusos is super, although sometimes overly stubborn. But in this situation, it's more of a plus: if you have to die, it's better to remain a person until the end. His background is interesting: what shaped him like this.
In turn, Carol...just a human being, with his own weaknesses and sorrows, just like each of us. It's good that the illusion has been destroyed, I wonder what the pace of the series will be next, because Carol is actually a month away from applying.
The theory of the happy genocide of mankind is simple, a virus is being created that can only be caught by a civilization of a certain development, and all civilizations that have reached a certain level always strive for knowledge and development and for their domination.
And now humanity has caught this virus, the virus seeks to infect all beings of a certain level of development, i.e. man, this is his goal in itself, the virus does not deceive, but in fact deceives, by powdering the brains of the surviving people with flattery, gifts and appeases them so that they lose their vigilance and also become infected with weirdos.
And now the whole planet is left without humanity, in 10 years all the weirdos will die because they have nothing to eat, they cannot harm and cannot use the resources of the Earth.
And in this way, aliens arrive and, without war, settle in the pure Greenery without people.
And all people mercifully die happily and painlessly with a smile on their face, they are happy, but they are dead because they are not able to pluck an apple from a tree, such a creature is not able to survive, everyone needs resources.
And that's why it's a theory of the happy genocide of humanity. Without war and pain, people just self-destruct.
And if rukozhop hadn't been working in the lab and the virus hadn't escaped, would the whole plan have gone down the drain?
If he was purposefully sent to Earth, then this is some kind of too cunning and unreliable plan. It would be easier to terrorize some kind of lifeless planet, I think.
They connect you to a car and you "fall asleep." During sleep, you live your best life. Do you want to become a cool Hollywood actor? You are welcome. All the money in the world? Easy. The most beautiful girl? A car? A house by the sea? Do you want presidents to bring you breakfast?
And it feels real, not staged.
One disadvantage is that in reality you are sleeping and connected to the car. That's how you'll die when your body expires.
So the question arises, would you join it voluntarily? The sensations are more than real, the brain is deceived, the necessary hormones are coming. Constant happiness, joy, finally a controlled life, no more pain and suffering.
In fact, "connecting" is something similar, eternal happiness, and romance with Zosia is a kind of test drive. The whole point of happiness is that it can't last forever, that you have to try and suffer for it. So Carol got a "reality check." I like how Hive is like, "Come on, we're not going to force you, no way... Oh, no, we will)))"
Voluntary-forced labor, in general.
I even thought it was a sinful thing, maybe by absorbing the consciousness of billions of people, they receive an initial huge charge of happiness, which gradually dissipates, and that's why they are so happy about the same books by Carol? Because it is an external source of joy that is not available to them within their community.
Difficult, in short.
I understand that the scriptwriters were recruited from Zaunyvnaya Street, but what could the Apple technology giant have done not on Amatorskaya Street? It's a shame. Was there anyone talented in this team at all?
The actress plays everything with a stony face. He begins to look for the answer to the question about stem cells and, with the same stone face, finds the answer in eggs. With the same stone face, he puts an atomic bomb in front of the house. Every time, she has "complicated" emotions on her face. I understand that a garbage scenario is justified by a slow narrative, but it's already difficult to cram a brick face into this tralebus of excuses.
I have a comparison with this elusive meaning of a banana taped to the wall.
or an exposed toilet bowl.
Did he learn this from his interview with Zosia? Then she's right, Manuses guard is so precise and specific.
Carol, in a conversation with Manosos, had previously mentioned that:
- The other immune ones don't want to communicate with her.
- One day she drove the hive to the point where they left her alone in the city for 40 days.
Based on this, he could already question Zosia more specifically.
In general, it's strange, of course, that the other 10 don't understand that this is not a good thing. After all, the whole essence of humanity is the constant striving forward, to discover new things, to learn, even stumbling, even somehow, but this is our whole essence. Through the thorns to the stars, to swim. Without all this, people are not people. In short, either they are really stupid, or this is how their defense mechanism works.
Even Manusos was blown away by the atomic bomb at the end. However, I didn't quite understand why Carol was standing right on the doorstep. Is this a safety net for the day when they come with a thermos to take a sniff? Would he shoot her with a gun and blow himself up along with part of the city?
And an interesting question was asked above: if Carol demands to take her eggs, will they be given to her or not? Because Hive is very categorical about the spread and infection, and here "we will do everything for you, Carol" doesn't seem to work.
We look forward to the next season and a detailed conversation between Carol and Manousos. She should show him the board, and he should tell her about his ideas about the radio signal. Of course, I expected to see such a conversation in this episode, but we'll do it anyway.
And yes, Manusos is a beast, I'll be rooting for him :)
That's not how it works, as far as I know.
And yet, yes, I still really like the pace of the narration.
By tradition, they will now ask more questions next season and close the project...
He's the only one who has it right away.:
1) Motive. He literally has a lot to lose._
And
2) Resources. Where the main resource, of course, is the absence of restrictions in behavior
Okay, loneliness, the cuckoo is gone. But just after loneliness, you can at least behave like a normal person. In this series, we're ALL shown what's going on with Carol. They didn't tell her something to be so afraid of about Manusos. Even if you're afraid, to exchange two phrases with the dude who farted at you from Paraguay, and send him like I'm tired - well, fucked up! It wasn't that long ago that survivors talked to you the same way, well, fuck? As a human being, pour him a fucking cup of coffee, ask him how he wants to save the world, tell him what you've found. Is that too much to ask? Ask how you got there and help me work off the wounds, at the very least. Oh, how infuriating)
In general, it feels like if everything was predictable before, because we were given hints in previous episodes, then here we decided to fuck off, like do it unexpectedly and give a conflict for the final episode, considering that we still need to combine it.
How could you seriously believe that she was somehow particularly loved... lol.
Manusos honey is a normal experiment, he brought a radio with him, he's sitting reading electric books (imho they have them in Spanish, but okay). If the series was about him, four episodes would be enough)
She's just a dumb bitch.
Oh, Carol.. a lonely soul is understandable, but after saying that they love her as much as manousos, one could think that there is nothing personal in this "relationship", no feelings, no affection, and somehow shake things up, and not travel the world with zosia
At least the egg story had touched her after all!
If I were Manousos, I would have sent her away and stayed away =\ She spent a little over a month in luxury isolation, playing golf and arranging Michelin dinners for herself, while he was licking cans for a bean, and for some reason her mentality was completely blown away, but he had the strength to send los otros 100,500 times (I just liked it, I'll call them that now)) and overcome 9k on your own. Vaya con Dios, Carol Sturka, as they say)
It's clear that she didn't have the happiest marriage with Helen, and then she was given the physical embodiment of all her sexual fantasies on a silver platter, but I probably would have been more into it if she had broken down at least six months later... Apparently, for some reason, they don't want to stretch the timeline.
But it's funny with a bomb, of course) Maybe Carol will fly on it, waving a cowboy hat, like at the end of Doctor Strangelove🤠
If it's very stupid, then there's no question.
And of course there's a metaphorical bomb.
I'm going to scroll through the precepts of Gilligan's fans. I can't stand another second of the main character's brilliantly filmed living room.
I understand everything, Zosia is cool, but damn, you lost Helen because of the virus, and they would have eaten her if you hadn't intervened. Apparently, forty days of loneliness had a strong effect on Carol, it was downright psychological torture.
If the season had ended with Carol in this state, I would have been upset, but fortunately the frozen cells shot, and Carol returned to beast mode to fight the kindest virus in the world. I'm thrilled.
About the finale. I remember how in Breaking Bad the scriptwriters added a scene of Walter White buying a machine gun at the beginning of the season and then barely figured out at the last moment how to use it at the end. So, I hope this time they have at least an approximate plan in advance, because... 💀
about, but Manousos is just my idol, he doesn't give up until the last moment, considering that he really doesn't have anyone close to him, and he understands that he has to save everyone)
and Carol took a mini vacation and returned to reality again)) I hope she and Manousos will solve this problem of the return of humanity)
The first 3-4 episodes are intriguing - what happened, how it happened, what's next, a rebellious heroine who sees through "utopia" and so on.
And then herak - and just despondency and suffering, literally and figuratively.
All the significant plot content of the series could fit into 4 episodes instead of 9. Well, OK, add melancholy to the atmosphere - 6 episodes. But at least 3 hours of the series can be stupidly cut out and nothing will change.
And the finale is just about nothing - because in fact, the series ended with what happened at the beginning of the season - she wants to save the world again. Well, thank you.
Gilligan apparently forgot to take his pills when he was writing the script.
Why did the virus infect mice at the beginning of the season, but animals don't get infected in real life (for example, through eating or licking plates or biting)? Why would a mouse bite a human if the virus can't do any harm? why is the virus so ceremonious with the remaining ones, if no one asked all the first converts about anything - maybe the virus needs not so much to convert them as to study their genetic cause of the "misfire" (hence the need for stem cells)?
I also have a vague feeling that "we don't know how to lie" is just another pretense - they are too good at simulating, manipulating and pretending when they need to, and they also know how not to answer important questions.
as for the fact that he was sent for an advanced civilization: perhaps he was sent in the same way that earthlings are going to send now - just into space somewhere, maybe someone will "get lucky".
The series is, of course, wild class. Gilligan is a fucking genius, I repeat.
I really want a second season right now.
Otherwise, at the end of the season, I can say that I really liked the series)
Carol was pissed off at the moment and how well Manusos blurted out to her about a girl or the world))
Well, the atomic bomb smiled at the end, of course)
All in all, it's a very cool series. Yes, it's slow, yes it's long, and in some places it may be illogical, as other commentators write, but I personally am thrilled, and I missed it. Breaking Bad was my first series that I watched from beginning to end, and apparently Gilligan's style of filming is well imprinted in my mind, because I'm just drawn to the picture, the plot and the very idea of the series.
We met, and then what? We'll find out in a year
Everything would be fine and I like everything that is happening, but I want at least for the x2 — half of the season we were waiting for some progress in the line of struggle against "them". And in the end, a last-minute reunion? Thank you, we look forward to the next season.
Not in the sense that you guessed it, but about the fact that stem cells cannot be isolated from eggs, because they seem to form after fertilization. Well, it was the same, guys, you had a heated discussion about it! And I remember, and that's why checkmate?
Carol finally woke up. And it's funny that she chose the most proven tactic of mankind - nuclear deterrence. There is something well-known political about this.
I'm still waiting for it to end, and judging by the reviews, is there a risk of a repeat of the LOST finale?)
To the commentators with many letters, thank you, sometimes I don't read books as much as I do here.
Peace, friendship, red caviar!🎄
Overall, it's a good series with great actors.
But as if it could be cut by a good third, or even longer. Well, like when the plane lands at the beginning, it's clear that they're carrying a special virus for the girl, but of course we'll stretch it out for 5 good minutes. And so it is with almost every scene. You already know how the episode will end, but it will be dragged on and on..
Otherwise, I liked it! There are a lot of topics for discussion, it is advisable to watch the series in a straight company and try to reason about the topics.
Well, it's a mystery to me what Gilligan has planned for 4 seasons...
Let's face it, this is a stupid assumption. And there's no point in it. Any normal virus would immediately strangle all the uncontrolled ones, given the threat they pose. Against the background of the billions killed, these are specks of dust.
What surprises me is that the swarm is quite calm about the death of its own kind, and if a lion attacks any of them, they don't seem to be fighting off the prey from the predator, as this can cause pain to the lion.
The unconverted pose a clear threat and it would seem beneficial to them that they kill themselves, for example, a donated grenade suggested this idea.
But then why did Zosia, sacrificing herself, save Carol by covering her body during the explosion? Would she have saved her own kind in a similar situation? Probably not.
It turns out that an individual is more than just an object requiring conversion for the swarm?
It seems that the virus creates a maternal instinct in the swarm towards the unconverted.
Accordingly, a radio signal travels 660 light-years in 660 years.
A person is just not too lazy to look for absolutely neutral comments (which do not affect her in any way) and ignore them, sirius?
It's kind of pathetic. It's just, like, why?))
At some point, this behavior becomes interesting, and the question "Why?" is simply not ironic. I discovered, by the way, that this crusade could have started with discussions of Stalin in the comments to Episode 2. If it's not a coincidence, then it's downright ridiculous - but okay, we have what we have.
Thanks, now we really won't piss each other off.
and yes, by the way, thank you for your age - I feel like I'm 15 years old. but you've either forgotten how to count (although I don't know where you were looking for these numbers), or you're not playing well, drawing an unknown age in your sick brain.
"What are we going to do with her?"
- I don't know, I just asked for a nuclear bomb.
Despite the fact that she could have asked to stop developing her personal version of the virus.
They have less than 10 years to figure out how to return people to their identities, otherwise humanity will die out. And without the knowledge of the collective mind, they will not have time to do this.
And as for interpersonal relationships, it often happens in life, like Carol and Zosia: one goes into a relationship with humanity and a real spark and feelings, and the other goes into a relationship with the established pattern of his environment and is often not the most attractive, and it also turns out to be bullshit, and really just want a nuclear to bomb the whole world (metaphorically) because your depth was not understood and not accepted.
Istria about aliens is very original - I hope they will reveal the ent. The last episode was impressive - Carol was revealed as an extremely selfish character, showing that she does everything not to save humanity, but to save herself.
The first season feels like a prologue - then the fight against aliens will begin and it will be incredibly interesting.
10/10
"then the fight against aliens will begin, and it will be incredibly interesting."
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P.S. Series - The Magic of Cinema
to show Carol's sobriety so that she returns to critical thinking - well, just bravo!
I hope they will reveal to us with flashbacks how Manousos came to the conclusion that people's consciousness is on a certain radio frequency)
and of course the atomic bomb is just a fume)))
I also liked how much the "collective mind" turned out to be similar to AI, as Carol finally realized that Zosia was just an empty shell who had no feelings for her. It's funny that the author created the series when gpt was not yet in sight, but at the same time he got into the news)
Post-viewing Mood: Stephen King
That's how the subpoena is pushed through, drop by drop. Like, this is normal, this is how it should be. Gilligan sold out in his old age. I don't think I've ever suffered from shit-eating before.
It's literally the same as turning on TV in a Muslim country and criticizing that all women are covered.
but the fact remains that the West always promotes the agenda. because it's so profitable for them, it's necessary. It doesn't matter if it's soft power or just maintaining a social status that they themselves have inflated like a soap bubble inside.
I mean, you're not even hypothetically the audience for whom this is being filmed. You go illegally yourself, download it/watch it, and then "THEY PUSH A SUBPOENA THROUGH TO ME." Look at the domestic works, a lot of good things have come out recently.
No one will forbid it.
They have their own agenda, Soros, for example (who is also a Westerner), has his own. And we're not even the first audience here. They need to destroy their own, to begin with, oddly enough. We are a secondary target.
I don't know what you think about the "purpose" of this for a long discussion. but the agenda is always as readable as possible.
but that's just me, by the way.
because I often see another one from Chinese cinema. such an elevation of moral values makes one feel and seem to wake up in order to throw off the arrogance of individuality.
Probably, an offer has been received that cannot be refused. For example, gaming companies just get their hands twisted. The game will not receive funding without a propaganda agenda. However, in the end - go woke, go broke usually)
and it corresponds to the initial state of gg in any story - an orphan.
what are you afraid of, that after the series you want to become a lesbian? it doesn't work that way))
There seemed to be a rationale for the plot, too, so it was easier to put pressure on the heroine in the form of donated biological material. Here, by the way, for the sake of interest, you can practice by trying to remake the plot for the hetero, without losing the plot hooks along the way.
Why did it appear? This is the result of pressure on the creators, as an essential element without which there will be no work and funding.
Apple is one of the foundations of liberal propaganda. Gilligan was given so much money that he couldn't refuse.
PS: I'm not judging. It's always a matter of the amount)
Well, we now live in such a time, yes, with such a picture of the world. And it's even started to talk about who allegedly sold out there, who put pressure on whom, etc. The best thing you can do is keep your own sanity and ridicule motherfucking. Meanwhile, the pendulum has already begun to move in the other direction, fortunately.
What kind of "other popular TV series" is meant, I do not know. But if you have to scold someone, condemn someone, and laugh at someone, then I would use the fourth season of True Detective as an example. We should just try to make the most dumb, untalented leftist craft, as if it were assembled literally according to some kind of methodology. "Pluribus" can be considered almost neutral against the background of this.
it was interesting how it ended, but alas, the season of this series ended almost the same as any other series.
But in Rick and Morty, everything was better handled, and in the 7-minute episode "When Yogurt took over the World", everything is much tougher and more believable!
Manousos, unlike Carol, is smart, he just took and found out everything from the original source. And even the shit said that he was very smart and got answers to questions that they didn't want to give answers to.
If it weren't for this, then in principle, an ideal world, no one touches anyone, you can live far from everyone.
when she told Zosa in all seriousness that she should love her more than manousosa and everyone else should also answer with the truth only to her.... I just don't know, I'm clutching my head. It's like she's 5 and she's telling a friend from the sandbox that he has to give her a shovel, otherwise she'll tell her mom everything.
??????????
why on earth would they single her out in any way?
but the fact that Carol could have brought a bomb, I'm not surprised at all. she's a stupid monkey)
she can do anything, but it's unlikely to make sense or have any kind of plan.
I am sure that these are no longer humans - they are AI, which (as befits AI) strives for its development. That is why they are trying to understand why the virus has not affected some individuals and how to circumvent this restriction.
As I thought, there will be a traitor to the survivors. It was obvious, but there was no interaction between the 13 in the series. And the conversion of the new bee passed even faster than from chemtrails.
It feels like they tried it in the final. But the difference is that Carol initially knew that there was no Zosia. But she chose to believe a lie. Lock myself in a maniac, set up a San Junipero.
I hope the Manusos is not rear-wheel drive.
The plot unfolding is very weak. 70% of the timekeeping is useless, if not more. Even the finale didn't give any clues. Also, the remaining six were never shown.
Develop, get out of your comfort zone
but you can look at it from the other side - she is not stupid and understands perfectly well that no reference books will tell you how to cure humanity of the scourge. there is only one option - to infiltrate the swarm, become one of your own among strangers, and getting closer to Zosia is necessary only for one thing - to find out their weak point, which, judging by the direct questions that put the swarm into a stupor, exists. I have no doubt that by asking indirect questions, Carol has finally put the whole puzzle together and now knows exactly how to heal people. Surely the contents of the container are connected with this tool.
One can build different hypotheses, perhaps there is a connection with the radio frequency that Manusos picked up - maybe the swarm is communicating on it? Maybe you need a transmitter to break this connection, but why bring it in a container when all the largest radio stations in the world are available? Hopefully, the contents of the container won't be kept secret for long in the second season. I assume that there will be the following lines:
1. Frequent flashbacks regarding Carol and Zosi's "honeymoon."
2. I am almost sure that there will be a hot phase of confrontation between the remaining people. More precisely, between those who seek to return humanity to its original state and those who passionately want to leave everything as it is, we will not point fingers at it.
And it was only thanks to Carol that he came into contact with the converted, so how independent is he?
I was thrilled, especially impressed by the work of the frame directors, wow. And the plot is not boneless, I think most of us would be like that guy from Las Vegas) Showed that no matter how introverted we are, we need a human society.
Waiting for the sequel) I was very pleased with the series this year)
The chalet really reminded me of the place where Joel was killed.
but I agree, the idea of evaluating series with the length of a commentary tape is so-so
The narrative is a little different.
Everything went well at first. Slowly, but in his own direction. Then Carol was overwhelmed by the Mauritanian's lack of reaction to "human protein" — and then it turns out that the introductory ones have changed and the prospect of joining the broth has been neutralized. Carol exhales and softens in every sense.
Even before the main events, she was not enthusiastic about her lifestyle. And against the background of a global catastrophe, in a short time she was faced with loss, alienation (it is clearly visible that it hurts her), loneliness, with a lot of small things — like Helen's opinion about her magnum opus.
The logical thing happens. The direct threat has passed, and the heroine chooses the same thing as the other survivors. When the clock isn't ticking on your graduation as a person, what happened to others may not look so egregious. In a chthonic parasite that dissolves individuals and civilization, and leaves shells to starve, fauna, and any rustle, you can find "a lot of good things" — if you want to. That's understandable. I wouldn't even call it a chastisement. And the parallels with the rest of the immune and Vaikaro fans have such a backlight that take care of your eyes)
How did Carol get to the honeymoon with "Zosia"? According to the background, it is clear that she is not a virtuoso in search of a place in the sun, and chooses more "faint—hearted" but simple and convenient options that do not require spiritual expenses and provide superficial comfort. For example, she wants and could publish works that are close to herself. The editor mentally branded this an "average", but not an outright trash, unlike Vaikaro. Nevertheless, meeting a cool reception for something more personal and remaining in poverty is such a prospect.
The situation with the hive is similar. If you think about the state to which Carol eventually exhausted herself, in order not only to turn away from all her attitudes and consciously commit self-deception, but also to believe in him, it becomes sad. Well, at least for me)
At this point, her bowler hat perked up in time, and Gilligan finally brought along an antidepressant—like person who was not too far from science. With ready-made theories and a preliminary work plan.
I agree with the speakers who were mentally prepared for their last—minute meeting - it could have been worse.
But here's the thing. Around the middle of the season, after human protein and stem cells, the narrative turns to a line with "Zosia" and sticks there... how many episodes?.. At the same time, the main plot does not move in any way, the pieces of lore stop falling, the MVP of the season, Manusos, shuts up the timing with an intercontinental road movie. According to internal logic, this could be explained by his refusal to contact the hive, but hey! — when he finally gets to Carol, he gives up on it for the sake of the cause. After all, the trip was for the cause. The very branch of women's happiness with highmind could also be implemented differently — it plays a role in the character's image, but transparent, and, in my opinion, does not require so much space.
As a result, by the end of the season, the plot made a detour and rolled back to the middle. Of course, Manusos is here now, a big step forward. Compared to the previous content. It seems to me that this is the result of signing the series for two seasons at once — the first one was filmed with an attitude like a prelude, although one of the two or three-"until-Ray-gets-tired" implies composition and inner integrity. I don't mind a steady pace, but by the end I want a little more acceleration)
And I think I realized what's special about this series - the plot doesn't say much, and until some events happen, you constantly think about what remains behind the scenes in this world, it's like reading a book, thinking and visualizing the narrative.
Still, I think that there's not an atomic bomb in the box, but something else, Carol just told me that so that Manusos would fuck with the audience, and now we've been tormenting ourselves for two years about what's in the box.
I'm glad that the series was immediately signed for two seasons and the viewings are very high, so you don't have to worry about being closed.
Carroll already considers Zosia his property, he is already jealous, even though she is the same individual as the others! Carroll says if you loved him, you wouldn't do this, would you? What other kind of love did you believe in with the "monster"? She was offended that they wanted to enslave her, even though they had said so from the very beginning!
Manosos found exactly the right station, would it be possible to bring a person out of this state? He was pretty close.
What can I say at the end? The Mauritanian asked the right questions and learned a lot of the truth, the Paraguayan found a station that can help.. And what did Carroll do? She drank incessantly, broke everything, "killed people", but in the end she had Stockholm syndrome? Zosia already considers her own property, which owes her something! I had sex with her a couple of times, and then I was offended that her cells wanted to!)
Overall, the beginning was much more interesting than the second half of the season. I hope the second season will be more fun.
In general, in the era of neural networks, it certainly looks interesting.
I waited for every episode that the plot was about to spin.
But in the end, I hoped in vain.
Don't tell me I have to go see tiktok.
I really like measured, deep paintings. But I haven't seen anything "ingenious" here yet.
Everything is very slow, very long and leads to nothing.
I don't think I'll be watching season 2.
And what's your acting score? If you don't like an actress, it doesn't mean that she doesn't act well.
Well, yes, when you have nothing to answer, pretend that you suddenly became uninterested.
I don't really like this trend, it even scares me. I've been listening to Hs for 1.5 years, that's right. But watch movies and TV series at speed? I don't know...
But here we should also take into account that I especially like the post-apocalypse, perhaps I'm not very objective.…
However, I'm impressed with Carol, she's been praised for everything, but that's what makes her alive, isn't it?
P.S. there's definitely not a bomb in the container.
some people know how to shoot, despite the length of the scenes and the timing in general, while others just fluidly focused on this series.
Or the beginning of episode 2. Roughly speaking, 3 scenes for 8 minutes in complete silence. What for? So that what? If you cut them out, it will not affect the further understanding of what is happening at all. And so it has been all season.
And you know, as soon as I turned on the 1.5 speed, I watched the 2-9 episodes of the season in one day/evening in one gulp, without being distracted by the "phone".
But they filmed it God knows how many years ago. A lot of things today are not watchable. Take a look at something from the 20-30 years, today it just doesn't look like anything (maybe with rare exceptions). Time is passing, and the perception is different - what was normal back then is not relevant today (I'm not talking about the topics, but about the filming itself, techniques, etc.).
If everything is going to be too slow for you, then please, your right. But I'm expressing my opinion))
The first episode was cheerful and inspiring, although there was some doubt that the writer would be able to find an antidote to an extraterrestrial virus only if it turned out to be something simple. But with each episode that followed, my enthusiasm got lower and lower. Since all the episodes basically boiled down to showing how Carol spends her time and her alcoholism. And I could understand her tantrums at the beginning of the series, she lost her girlfriend/wife, but after the grenade incident, I somehow became disillusioned with her.
In between doing nothing and drinking, Carol tries to figure something out, but as soon as Helen's replacement appeared, she quickly abandoned the idea of saving humanity. And she returned to her as soon as the risk of her joining "them" loomed.
We could show you more about how "they" live. Zosia mentioned that people are still being born, it would be interesting to see how "they" raise the future generation and how they generally spend their free time, but "they" need to rest. Well, it's also interesting to me that animals can be carriers of the virus, but they themselves are not adjacent to a single system.
I liked Manousos more or less. He is more suitable for the role of the savior of the world. I expected him to get there faster, not in the last episode, and at least they'd give him more screen time.
back in the first episodes, I argued about this in the comments, naively hoping that someone would give answers to these questions ... THE AUTHOR, FOR EXAMPLE???
The Paraguayan is a crazy nutcase... He screams, leaves money, give him the bill for the hospital. Man, you.... Oh, kick-ass, anyway.
Well, what a fucking bomb... And what will they do? Intimidate them (hive) or what.... Well, that.
In general, the series is philosophical. I'm still thinking about everything. But I guess I'd choose happiness to join in. I don't care if I walk or suffer. A la hero, to be a rescuer... To think of himself as the navel of the Earth, to save humanity? Oh, that's right...
In general, happiness and no stress. Not looking for something out there. They don't know (Carol and the Paraguayan) what to do with themselves.
The line with the Paraguayan is a bit crazy, the scriptwriters overdid it, then he is principled to the point of stupidity that he is ready to die because of them, now he is already violating his principles, they probably just wanted to show beautiful views of South America)
, they have her eggs and she will inevitably join them in a couple of months
, so in any case, she had to come out of this illusion to find a solution to the problem
I watched the last three episodes in one gulp and am satisfied. I don't watch the series for the sake of promoting the plot, I just like watching what's happening on the screen. I even liked Manousos' trip.
The only negative is that it is now unclear how long to wait for the release of the new season. Hopefully not for two years.
Otherwise, I'd bet 7/10.
For me personally, the most powerful episode was with the girl from Peru. We have been clearly shown that after "conversion" all boundaries of culture, relationships and attachments are erased. It was as if the scenery had been assembled and the stage had been cleared.
Of course, the "gun" with the eggs went off, and we were told about them several times. In general, I almost immediately thought that they could be used somehow. Perhaps they will grow an embryo? Who knows.
Well, the final point is Carroll's understanding that Zosia doesn't like her as a person, as a person. Yes, and Zosia can't really love. It's sad and sobering at the same time.
The atomic bomb took out 😂
Carol tossed and turned, realizing that this was an illusion, but as a result, she still chose the latter between "saving the world" and "the joys of a love affair with Zosia." With this choice, didn't she demonstrate that she, like a number of other individuals in real life, doesn't care about others at all, her shirt is closer to her body? Financial limitlessness, a wonderful climate, golf, an evening bow in an expensive restaurant, a massage with several hands, a fireplace at a ski resort, a book by the pool, and a companion/companion swims in it (well, who has any preferences), whose main task is to make Carol happy, she certainly won't install a secret camera and she won't pretend that she likes Carol's work, the thrill of discussing the first chapter with them, all desires are instantly fulfilled, just pick up the phone and tell her. Not life, but every woman's dream. And the fact that the companion/companion has a fig in his bosom, well, it's the same everywhere in real life. And a nuclear bomb is every woman's realized dream of revenge for the fact that the idyll turned out to be a lie.
The good thing about the series is that each viewer reads their own meanings. And this is possible due to the fabulousness of the plot. Many thanks to the author of the idea for it.
The bomb has a strange square shape, by the way. It's not a cannon ball, it's supposed to be elongated, isn't it?
(but it's not a fact that Anthony's bond)
Therefore, the forecast for the next season: since all events are developing very slowly, Manousos and Carol, God forbid, in the last episode they will be able to heal someone. Alas, the cured character will not live long, because the emotions received from life in the highway are head and shoulders above those of an ordinary person. He will remember all this, be sad, and commit suicide. Therefore, the third season of gg will resolve these conflicts. Or the aliens will finally arrive!
To be honest, I'm sorry for the time spent. It was long, necessary, uninteresting — just boring.
So what kind of makar will this wonderful couple (in the person of Carol and Manousos) save humanity?
I'm waiting for their desperate confrontation with Diabate
The series has an interesting plot, but my interest in it was aroused after watching episode 4... for me it's a slow and drawn-out story that leads nowhere.
By the way, I noticed how Zosia's image and style changed at the end of the season, as if she had adjusted to the type that Carol likes, well, not as if, but it is.
The plot is not bad, we are waiting for the sequel. And, of course, it was possible to show a lot more in 9 episodes, but it's a big deal, but the picture is mega beautiful)