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s04e08 — Baptism of Fire

The Witcher — s04e08 — Baptism of Fire

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Runtime: 51 min.
Release Date: 30.10.202530.10.2025 15:00
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4 season
s04e08
s04e01 - What Doesn't Kill You Makes You Stronger
s04e02 - Dream of a Wish Fulfilled
s04e03 - Trial by Ordeal
s04e04 - A Sermon of Survival
s04e05 - The Joy of Cooking
s04e06 - Twilight of the Wolf
s04e07 - What I Love I Do Not Carry
s04e08 - Baptism of Fire
s05 special-1 - The Rats: A Witcher Tale

Discussion: Season 4, Episode 8
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MacLeoddd
MacLeoddd
30 Oct 16:33 #
It's still hard to watch it after reading the original source. Before the announcement of the cast for Regis, it seemed that at least he would be able to spice things up a little, but alas. Not only does he absolutely not fall into the type, but also the role seems to be absolutely not his, although the actor is quite good. Milva.. Oh, well, it's like there's no Milva at all. Maeve almost dropped my jaw at the moment, even though I'm trying to convince myself not to be surprised by the lousy casting. It's already a tradition in this series. I was probably pleased, though only slightly, with Filin (Stefan Skellen), and even then with a big "but". I don't even want to talk about the plot, its simplifications and changes anymore. Alas, an absolute disappointment:(
SanBest93
SanBest93
PRO
31 Oct 18:09 #
@MacLeoddd: I would agree with "absolute" if Leo Bonhart. I really liked him. 🙂
MacLeoddd
MacLeoddd
31 Oct 18:16 #
@SanBest93: Still, yes, I agree
alaxaro
alaxaro
08 Nov 21:30 #
@MacLeoddd: Of course, Regis is a complete casting disaster, but Laurence Fishburne plays very well.
Milva, as far as I'm concerned, got used to the role quite well.
But there are too few Maevas to judge. But this minute of time (even without teeth) turned out well.
And the trouble with casting is, of course, complete.
GingerUnicorn
GingerUnicorn
PRO
30 Oct 23:48 #
Well, the season is over.
The authors tried to follow the canon at some points, but they were still caught up in some kind of heresy. Starting from these monoliths, continuing by killing everyone right and left (which I generally want if they killed Eskel, dad, I love him very much), rewriting the canon of Kagyr, changing the race of the characters, ending with the fact that Emhyr hired some kind of beast. (I honestly can't remember such a moment in the book). In general, Emgyr is some kind of tube. He doesn't scare me at all.
The only line that came to me was Ciri and the Rats. Leo Bonhart is just as nasty and smug. The head-cutting moment is just as disgusting to me as it was when I read that he came in the series.
Geralt is officially from Rivia. Without taking any points, in general, his campaign is similar to a book one. There are a couple of dumb meetings with Radovid and Dijkstra.
I thought I loved Jennifer. But it seems that the showrunner loves her more. She doesn't live through everything that was in the book at all. She's a bit too Mary Sue here. Everything is working out, everyone loves her. And Philippa and I are friends in general.
In general, thanks for some canonical moments, but in general it wasn't worth it.
mariaRhun
mariaRhun
01 Nov 22:29 #
@GingerUnicorn: ahahaha, Emhyr tube. I still couldn't figure out and formulate for myself what was wrong with him, but you described everything very accurately and succinctly. I totally agree.
DeanVenture
DeanVenture
Yesterday, 09:20 #
@GingerUnicorn: It seems to me that they took the monster theme from the penultimate book, and there was also some kind of magician who was growing experiments on the sly.
Danman
Danman
31 Oct 00:16 #
Sharlto Corley, what are you doing here? The actor is awesome, I love his projects, but here... Damn it, how much did you pay? X)
AMZ5
AMZ5
06 Nov 00:26 #
@Danman: What are the questions for him? He's great.
Danman
Danman
06 Nov 00:38 #
@AMZ5: he's great, I don't disagree with that - but getting involved in a project at a time when everyone hates it... There was a big check involved
Ternoo
Ternoo
31 Oct 01:11 #
What kind of cheap fanfiction did I just watch? Everything is kind of childish and looks cheap and unrealistic, as if the fans gathered and filmed a sequel....
7vania7
7vania7
PRO
07 Nov 22:51 #
@Ternoo: So it's the grandfather who tells the story to the children. That's why I forgot something, changed something.
Well, he represents the Herald in a different way.
That's how they decided to justify this mess.
IDNOI
IDNOI
PRO
31 Oct 08:01 #
The battle on the bridge is not as spectacular as in the books, but at least it has not been completely fucked up. Although it was possible to remove the terrible episode with the battle of the magicians and fully show the bridge on Yaruga. Ian created a box in which she had never been, and she was partly against her (yes, in the game she was the main engine for recreating the box, but there the situation was tougher, and even so she was not in it, and the main one, as before, was Philippa, who asked Geralt, if everything works out, take Ian away, otherwise it would be somehow ugly to deny her membership in the Lodge, which was recreated with her help), after which protos went nowhere (Skelege?).

On the plus side: Leo Bonart is almost the same sadistic maniac. I hope he will continue to follow the book, Ciri will learn a good lesson from him under all his actions on her.

The season itself is 5/10, if we take it as a separate work, like the film adaptation of "The Witcher" — 2.5/10 (better than "The Last of Us", but it's not difficult).

The fifth season is the final one, and it's already clear that we won't be shown everything that was in the books. The question is what will be removed: Tusent or Tyr na Lia and the entire branch with the king of the Alder people and Eredin, or everything will be removed altogether. I'm afraid they can say familiar names in one sentence, as was the case with Avallak, but it doesn't matter if it's appropriate or not.
Danman
Danman
31 Oct 12:01 #
Wait, is this the whole season? Isn't it the half that Netflix divided into two parts? Yo, if season 5 is the last, then they won't have time to play out there - they won't fit anything.
Blew
Blew
08 Nov 21:14 #
@Danman: already knowing the manner of the showrunners of this series, we can safely assume that they will slice up the events in the same way as Leo Bonhart chopped up the Rats. and then they will also put the different parts into 1 barrel - "so, the foot next to the head, normally, and so it will do" 🙃
DeanVenture
DeanVenture
Yesterday, 09:22 #
@Danman: There's nothing to fit in there. Send a couple of young ladies to one place, and a peasant with a company to save them
Zlogorek
Zlogorek
31 Oct 12:45 #

⠀So-so season.

⠀Milva was the best of all.
⠀ Nimue was also introduced relatively normally . But they won't have time to develop and show her line in any way, the chances are too high, and she will remain a passing fan-reteller of the story about Geralt.
Jennifer had too much, and she was too far away.
Serialkiller_402
Serialkiller_402
PRO
31 Oct 13:08 #
What was that? 🤦🏼‍♂️
There is no season at all, how to put it mildly. It definitely should have been closed after Cavill left.
I can't imagine how you can cram everything into the final season and not descend into even greater absurdity.
kate_archer
kate_archer
31 Oct 14:38 #
Yes, it's a good season. Better than the others, perhaps. More canon, less bullshit, which would be nothing if it weren't so mediocre and dumb. This series has great events. They gave me my bridge, and I'm happy. I really liked Cahir this season. And Regis turned out better than I expected, he speaks quite canonically and his voice gets to the gut.
Bonhart vs Rats - I can't raise my hand to write 'good', but it's powerful. After Ciri's arrival, I even started to feel something, it was played properly.
I think Toussaint won't be here next season, and I'm not sorry. With this Fringilla, it's even a relief. Although Buttercup dropped Anarietta in the fifth episode.
MargoRose
MargoRose
PRO
31 Oct 16:10 #
the moment when I know for sure that I have to stop watching some TV series without regrets.
g1522238
g1522238
31 Oct 19:22 #
I liked the season more than the previous one
He generally looked through the force
But I still don't understand how it was possible to screw up such a franchise.
And at the same time, I understand that if someone is going to restart , it will definitely be in a dozen years.
Doro_tea
Doro_tea
PRO
31 Oct 23:46 #
I read books 15 years ago, and not all of them, I didn't play games. I don't know the plot and canon, I don't remember, and therefore I can adequately evaluate the series - I liked this season, the Witcher's recast was generally normal, I didn't bother my eyes, I really liked the whole branch about enchantresses (Ian and Philippa ❤️), the branch with Rats was wildly annoying, and how I rejoiced in this series (well, really I didn't feel sorry for them), so this thug is a credit, I hope his actions will bring Ciri back to her true self, but so far I don't share at all that everyone is shaking because of her (looking for, saving, dying) and she's doing shit. That's my IMHO, fans - don't miss it too much)
VeronikaBovt
VeronikaBovt
01 Nov 00:29 #
I probably disagree with many comments, the season is much more dynamic than the 3rd. I watched the 4th, and began to review it for comparison..The gene is good without presentation, but there is also a but... Gena is a playable character in embody!!!Just one "Hmm, Contagion!" and we're in Game 3 of The Witcher, the "Contagion" is brutal, and in this version, I personally liked the facial transformation after the elixir, and there are many good moments! The multi history of Regis, for example. This is a film series based on Sapkovsky, after all! Where at least one series followed the canons??? I can't even remember a movie where the scriptwriters and the entire cast went according to the canons!!!Do you want to minus the ones I liked!!! Liam the second, after all, did a good job!
VeronikaBovt
VeronikaBovt
01 Nov 00:34 #
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gillismitch
gillismitch
08 Nov 21:16 #
@VeronikaBovt: imho the "Three-body problem" from the Chinese (not netflix by any means) is very good, including proximity to the original source
VeronikaBovt
VeronikaBovt
08 Nov 21:21 #
@gillismitch: Thanks for the comment. I really liked the "Three-body Problem" in the film adaptation!
Myshows777
Myshows777
01 Nov 01:31 #
I once thought that professionals in their field would work on the Witcher to try to reveal this universe and their characters to the fullest. It's going to be a cool cast, great acting. Musical accompaniment. And the level is something like Game of Thrones in the fantasy world, only in the witcher universe. But Netflix decided to shit their pants, and for fans to make a series for one or two evenings, which they won't even remember after watching.
Hidji
Hidji
01 Nov 02:04 #
@Myshows777: at the same time, the series has a high rating on imdb. Much higher than many more worthy fantasy series. And KP is not so much less, although the influence of a large number of fans of the book or TV series The Witcher is noticeable in the Russian-speaking segment. He has unexpectedly a lot of fans for this level.
umaryan
umaryan
PRO
01 Nov 20:50 #
@Hidji: Yes, the ratings are high, but only due to the first seasons. This one dragged the series to the bottom, although it's actually not as bad as an independent work. But for those who have read or played, it is clear that the ratings are fair.
Hidji
Hidji
01 Nov 22:21 #
@umaryan: I read it 3-4 times and played, although by the third part I had already moved away from gaming. But I can say that this season I watched the first episodes almost without wincing). And then, of course... By the way, in the third, the final batch in Arethusa was not so bad + it was the closest of all the other series to the original source, but the ratings were the lowest. So the series really has its own audience outside the fanbase, which is very large, since it affects the final scores in this way.

And as already mentioned in the comments, there are a lot of Yen. Unlike the text, where it was withdrawn from the asset for a while). Annoy.
umaryan
umaryan
PRO
01 Nov 22:28 #
@Hidji: Yes, I've enjoyed this season as a whole too. I was also pleased with the beginning. Hemsworth was a pain in the eyes at first, and then it was as if he had always been there. Netflix as a whole has taught you to abstract from the original source when watching something. Well, Amazon was also thrown in.
However, I don't like many characters, like Radovid and Emhyr. Well, they don't feel like rulers. They're all caricaturally ordinary. And the fictions of the screenwriters, the denigration of white characters, and other agendas are not as infuriating (the only thing I still can't accept from this is black Roland in the dark tower) as the characters without any depth.
Hidji
Hidji
01 Nov 22:31 #
@umaryan: about the rulers of daaa... In the same games, they were somehow much more textured. Radovid is generally disgusting.
umaryan
umaryan
PRO
01 Nov 22:36 #
@Hidji: Honestly, I'm already tired of discussing the actors' performance in many TV shows... It's like every year everything goes downhill. And what's more surprising is that TV shows are getting worse abroad, but we have some kind of Renaissance.
1Atlair
1Atlair
01 Nov 02:30 #
In fact, there were no expectations, what to expect after 3 seasons from Netflix with a cast in the form of a black pampushka by Keira Merz and a gay Buttercup, and ignoring the original book, but I enjoyed it, it went pretty cheerfully. Hemsworth is quite good, the staging of the fights is excellent, Leo, my respects. But the ending with the little one killed me: but what happened to Ciri? Smiling and enthusiastic, the girl took the book.: And now I'm going to tell you how Leo Bonard chopped rats into bloody mincemeat with all the details.
Danman
Danman
01 Nov 09:43 #
@1Atlair: A movie about rats came out, and there were rats. both Ciri and a well-known Swedish martial artist from the 90s
mariaRhun
mariaRhun
01 Nov 22:35 #
@1Atlair: Smiling and enthusiastic, the girl took the book.: and now I'm going to tell you how Leo Bonard chopped rats into bloody mincemeat with all the details" — ahahahah, yelling. 🤣🤣🤣
gkalian
gkalian
01 Nov 03:47 #
It's the fourth season, and people are still complaining about the miskasts. That would be something to be surprised about.

Regis didn't inspire him, Fishbourne is cool, but it's completely out of place and doesn't seem to fit the character. What can't be said about Leo, he's just as sadistic as in the book. Sharlto Copley is incredibly good, he plays beautifully.

There was an excessive amount of Jennifer, as if the actress had a special contract and she was brought to the fore with the whole Box. It definitely wouldn't be worse if there was less of it.

In general, the season is even OK, despite all this fanfiction, it's even a pity that next season is the last. This means that they will gallop through the plot and cut up a huge amount of material.

P.S. Purely two bros in paphos:
kate_archer
kate_archer
01 Nov 14:08 #
@gkalian: For those who have played Thronebreaker, this episode, of course, causes a special reaction. 😍
umaryan
umaryan
PRO
01 Nov 20:52 #
@gkalian: I can see Charles Dance in the role of Regis, he would be much better suited.
Dariank
Dariank
07 Nov 12:55 #
@umaryan: I think Ralph Fiennes would also be nice.
BadgerSister
BadgerSister
08 Nov 03:07 #
@umaryan: I read something about Gary Oldman for this role, there would also be a gun.
Allisoon
Allisoon
01 Nov 13:18 #
The season turned out to be weak — 5-6 out of 10. There are very few witchers in it. There is almost no difference between Cavill and Hemsworth — not because they are similar, but because the script itself does not give an opportunity to reveal itself.
Dastya
Dastya
01 Nov 17:10 #
It's not a bad season in the end, even though this whole season is about preparing for the finals.
I'm looking forward to Jennifer and Geralt's epic battle with Vilgefortz.

It was nice to see Tissaya in the "illusion", she was one of the most beloved characters, And the way Vesemir's death was played out, they just wrote off the NPCs, horror! And how Geralt reacted to the news of his death, no way!!

I'm also glad that the rat squad arc is over. I don't know how it was according to the book, but judging only by the series, this is ala "six Ravens" on minimums. Leo Bonart 🔥
Danman
Danman
01 Nov 18:35 #
@Dastya: There's a movie with them, and that's good, because once there were rumors about the whole series, and the movie is just the thing for a quick story about them.
garbisik
garbisik
01 Nov 18:03 #
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aloezacololy
aloezacololy
01 Nov 18:46 #
I'm sorry, but this is the most boring and ridiculous season for me (
NKVD
NKVD
01 Nov 21:35 #
Let's assume that the series is based on books...If it wasn't for reading books, then it would be quite a good series. Therefore, let's abstract from the original source and just look at what was called the Witches, then it will be quite acceptable and interesting.
delegateDV
delegateDV
01 Nov 22:36 #
The whole Internet: "in the book series, the first two volumes are really good, the rest are filled with water." Comments on maishous: Oh my God, how could they do this to a masterpiece...
CrazyDiamond
CrazyDiamond
02 Nov 02:48 #
The whole season I felt like I was watching some kind of passing generic series, without my own universe. If you'd put the heroes of the Lord of the Rings or Star Wars in there, it would have looked the same.
In my opinion, this Ogre is the same before animation as in the Lord of the Rings))
Cliché on cliché, exaggerating to a dainty dwarf.
sanastasiya
sanastasiya
02 Nov 15:20 #
As for me, this is the best season, although there is some kind of dynamics, the previous ones went through the force, this one in one go. The new Super Witcher
Dan_gurman
Dan_gurman
02 Nov 17:31 #
The season turned out to be much closer to the canon than the previous ones, so I don't understand why the ratings are so low. Even if Regis changed his race, it doesn't bother me. Bonhart is also well-chosen. Considering what the scriptwriters did in the first two seasons, it's not an easy task to get everything back on track. Vesimir was leaked, but he doesn't really play a role anymore. They just decided to add drama at his expense. Liam, like Henry, plays wooden, there are still no witty comments from Geralt.
In general, it's not bad, I'll even wait for season 5.
skiorh
skiorh
02 Nov 19:02 #
Tris is sweeping the yard... No, well, of course, we need to start restoring Arethusa from somewhere, but...
and that's how they do it. ©
skiorh
skiorh
02 Nov 19:04 #
@skiorh: but I didn't throw this season in half like the 3rd, it's already good
how uneven it is, but there are quite a lot of good moments, like cutting out rats, for example.
skiorh
skiorh
02 Nov 19:06 #
@skiorh: Special thanks that Milva did have an abortion.:

Having a child to save you from yourself is the most shitty idea for everyone involved.

And that Geralt called her by her first name, like, you're you, with or without a baby
kate_archer
kate_archer
02 Nov 19:45 #
@skiorh: She did not have an abortion, she lost her baby naturally. A large percentage of such developments, in fact.
skiorh
skiorh
02 Nov 20:39 #
@kate_archer: Well , how can I say that

When they want to keep pregnant, they don't rush through the mountains saving troubled men, they don't jump from a great height into an icy river, they don't expose themselves to the risk of being killed and the accompanying stress.

Abortion is a taboo topic in the media of most countries, they are rarely shown directly in a positive light, and they did not take any chances here.

But it's pretty obvious.

By the way, I just remembered that she was twirling a vampire bottle during a conversation with Geralt, but they didn't show how she threw it away/poured it out.

Although, of course, I could have viewed it, so I can't guarantee 100%.

But if so, it's very straightforward, it's like when you don't show the body, it means the character is alive.
kate_archer
kate_archer
02 Nov 20:54 #
@skiorh: heh. Well, if I may say so, she directly rejected Regis's potion in the book. And in the series, they all like to hammer nails instead of applying delicate touches. 🤷♀️
skiorh
skiorh
02 Nov 21:14 #
@kate_archer: I think we can definitely agree that the motivations and actions of the characters in the book and the series are not the same every other time. 🤷
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daribaggins
daribaggins
PRO
02 Nov 20:30 #
I also read the arch of rats in the book one line at a time, which is boring.
Liam fits the canonical witcher more than Cavill, and that's fine.
I don't understand, do they want to put the end of the books and all three parts of the game in the next season?
Paramelion
Paramelion
03 Nov 18:03 #
@daribaggins: Why did you even think that the events of the games would be filmed here?)
daribaggins
daribaggins
PRO
06 Nov 09:45 #
@Paramelion: I don't know. And why not?))
Paramelion
Paramelion
06 Nov 12:14 #
@daribaggins: because this is the intellectual property of a completely different company, and Netflix bought the rights only from Sapkovsky)
НадеждаТ
НадеждаТ
02 Nov 21:52 #
When Milva Maria the squirrel fell off a cliff into the water, she thought at least after such a miscarriage. And how glad I was when Regis found out about it at the 16th minute. I'm like, Oh, yeah!

The toothless queen knighthoods the witcher – smiled, and immediately beheaded rats and into a barrel in front of Tsyri /Falk
GeorgeSuzdalsky
GeorgeSuzdalsky
02 Nov 22:13 #
Pooja's cameo was the best of the season 😆
Ангел_огня
Ангел_огня
PRO
02 Nov 22:14 #
I was skeptical about the witcher without Kevin, but strangely enough, the season went very easily, and in some places I wanted a more sullen witcher, although Jennifer compensated for this season.
SvetikWolf
SvetikWolf
02 Nov 23:52 #
Damn, in the most interesting place.
I liked the season. I didn't really notice the Witcher's replacement. Liam still managed to win back.
The season turned out to be rich in fights and action.
The ending, of course... I'm very sorry for the rats.
AMZ5
AMZ5
06 Nov 00:29 #
@SvetikWolf: Who feels sorry for the rats? All the normal people for Leo)
karinabuzia
karinabuzia
PRO
03 Nov 08:55 #
Well, are you glad you didn't kill me?
I haven't decided yet.

The season is great, I enjoyed everything.
I hope Netflix gives us an epic ending in the year 26.
In general, it was a road adventure from the three sides of the main characters and so far their roads have not crossed yet.
I didn't get any rejection from the lead actor, so everything is fine.
There aren't a lot of fantasy series these days, so this saga is going great.
And I read books in fragments, leaving them in the middle, so I have nothing to compare them with)
an_khv
an_khv
03 Nov 13:03 #
I have not read books, I have not played games, I perceive the series as something unique and independent.

That's why I liked the season in principle. The plot is interesting. The fights are beautiful and exciting)
And in the final episode, as if the humor was not bad, it was on her that the jokes were more "at the box office."

The new cast isn't always right, though. The new Geralt is not bad. Leo may be an antagonist, but he's a charismatic guy!
And here's Regis... There are no complaints about the actor, but the character did not look like a vampire, but like Basilio's Cat on minimums (except for animation, everything is cool there). Rats are weak too - you can't even empathize with them. They were killed so terribly, but in fact you didn't get into the heroes and you're neutral.

So, personally, I'm looking forward to the fifth season. I'm waiting for fights and carnage, I'm waiting for action and scale!
Cesc
Cesc
03 Nov 13:10 #
As for me, Regis, Bonnart and Filin were the best written in the books. In fact, the series is interested in scenes with them, but... Fishburne somehow passed by, Skellen was fucked up, and Leo was not allowed to roam to the fullest, although even this is the best of all. The death of the rats and the events that were taking place didn't bother me too much.
w1semc
w1semc
03 Nov 13:16 #
The kneading on the bridge is normal, but the rats were somehow dealt with quickly) Leo Bonart is fierce)
Vranya
Vranya
03 Nov 13:44 #
Type did not play it ponano, but the series was just shit, and remained
Социофоб
Социофоб
03 Nov 14:28 #
One of his favorite moments in the book was where he cleaned up the rats. This was also well shown here. And he knocked Ciri down.
Ell
Ell
PRO
03 Nov 16:34 #
Geralt's recast came to me. Hemsworth is a good fit. There's a lot of action in the season, and it was the witcher (Geralt, Leo, Ciri) who looked good. I'm not saying anything for magicians. Sneaking out from under the horse. Leo Banart has an ideal cast. The top antagonist. How he smashed the rats in the finale. Oh. And the actress on Ciri is now in her best years. Pretty kick-ass. I've been enjoying it all season. Regis, despite the fact that it doesn't fit outwardly, minus that, the image is well conveyed. I liked. Like Milva and the Dwarves. In general, the best part of the season is the adventures of Geralt and the ala Fellowship of the Ring company. The rats and Leo are in second place. Of course, the cast for Ciri's girlfriend is a failure, but the rest look normal. The lines of the enchantresses and Vilgeforts of the team are kringe to the 10th degree.
farcry2033
farcry2033
03 Nov 16:41 #
On a high , he passed the rats 🤣 Krasava 👍
Paramelion
Paramelion
03 Nov 17:44 #
God, what a passing "something" season. No, everything was shot at a high-quality level. But for the last episode of the season, in which there were no events promoting the story, practically nothing changes in this series.
As Jennifer was looking for Velgiforts, so she is looking. Just as Geralt went after Ciri, so it still goes. Just as Emhyr was looking for Ciri, he is still looking for her. THREE FILLER LINES. Well, Ciri got rid of the Rats and got some kind of development, and this is literally the only thing that was good and really moving in the season.
If you skip this season and start watching the fifth after the third, it's like you haven't missed anything.
I'm even ready to accept Kevin's replacement, but the filler season is mostly blasphemy.
Leo Banart is the opening of the season, but in fact his arc will only be revealed in the fifth season.
Cesc
Cesc
04 Nov 00:59 #
@Paramelion: there are even fewer events promoting the story in the books) they made up more stuff in the series)
Paramelion
Paramelion
04 Nov 01:15 #
@Cesc: Well, considering that many complain that there are more events in the remaining books for more than one season, they could just cram some of these events into this season. And so it turns out, for the most part, nothing has changed in many lines.
Cesc
Cesc
04 Nov 01:31 #
@Paramelion: I even understand the problem of screenwriters here, because the original source is so-so... This is not a conventional Game of Thrones, where everything is beautifully written in the book cycle, but a hodgepodge of experiments by the author, who still did not understand what style he wanted to write in) at its core this season, and in the canon the most interesting thing is Bogart with Ciri. But there was a lot of underperformance in the series... Plus, conversations with Regis diluted these eternal walks. The formation of the lodge was greatly distorted, but it doesn't matter. I especially laughed at the transformation of Francesca into a statuette, where, according to the canon, Ian should have been in her place. Well, as it is, they were supposed to show the formation of the Hansa and focus on Ciri, where she is changing a lot thanks to the rats, but they were made too useless in the series and we did not see the development of the main character. All hope for further developments with Bonart.
giftsvamp
giftsvamp
03 Nov 18:49 #
There's too much left in the books for the last season with their pace - at least two would be. In any case, they will cut a lot, but imho it's not scary, as an independent work, the series looks great. All the same, the author's stuff is "based on motives", that games, that old Polish, that this one. If you take off your pants, it looks great.
giftsvamp
giftsvamp
03 Nov 18:52 #
The recast and casting are good. Regis is not, but Fishburne is too charming, you get into it. I'm used to Hemsworth in the middle. Kim Bodnia - there was a gorgeous Vesemir, but Yaxley from GP is also convincing. Bonhart is great!
scarcelyinside
scarcelyinside
03 Nov 18:55 #
The season feels small, as if nothing much has happened. But Liam is fine, he's pulling — although it's not like there's any acting overachievement here, to be honest.
The Hansa suited me fine. Cahir, my dear, I've been clinging to him since the beginning of the series.
Well, Ian is good, there are no words. All the money saved on wigs went to Anya for a wig — it looks gorgeous.
giftsvamp
giftsvamp
03 Nov 18:58 #
The choreography of the fights is simply magnificent, from 5-second skirmishes to epics for 15-30 minutes. By this stage of the plot, the witcher had already kind of stopped doing professional work - not up to it, but they still introduced monsters, the atmosphere of the games was felt in a new way) Xs, the overall impression is that they are doing the whole project very heartily. It's coming in, although the deviations from the canon are quite strong. It seems to me that if you take it as a separate work, the series works very, very well. There is very little beautiful, juicy fantasy right now.
Владислав-95
Владислав-95
03 Nov 19:06 #
What was the season about? About how Ciri was searched for and never found.
What would the next season be about? About how they will search for her again and will not find her.
giftsvamp
giftsvamp
03 Nov 19:08 #
@Владислав-95: Geralt and Ciri's lines are from the books, plus or minus, close to the original source. A departure from the canon here is the line of magicians only
sf-ram
sf-ram
03 Nov 20:01 #
Guys, can you tell me if you want to watch season 4 first, and then the movie about Rats, or vice versa?
Danman
Danman
03 Nov 22:24 #
@sf-ram: Watch the season, then the movie
Devilchonok
Devilchonok
04 Nov 02:47 #
@sf-ram: It's better to have a movie first, then a season. But there's a spoiler of the end of the season right at the beginning of the movie, it needs to be skipped quickly. There are events 6 months before the season.
dalaukar
dalaukar
04 Nov 20:21 #
@sf-ram: just don't watch this shit)
Anna007K
Anna007K
03 Nov 21:01 #
Why couldn't Jennifer have transported them all to where they were going before she went through the portal, if there was such an opportunity, so that they wouldn't have to look for any river crossings and save a lot of time?
Paramelion
Paramelion
03 Nov 23:35 #
@Anna007K: the arch with the portal is just wild nonsense, we should forget about it altogether. He ruins absolutely everything if you can track a person without knowing where he is.
Cesc
Cesc
04 Nov 01:03 #
@Anna007K: well, they came up with monoliths in the first season, so they tried to develop it somehow) but as it is, yes, this is nonsense, which should not have been) and a lot of corpses that are actually alive
Hamali666
Hamali666
03 Nov 21:51 #
"Don't you want to suck my bells?"
"I'll think about it..."
Ahahahaha what for 🤣🤣🤣

No, it's really surreal, especially the final episode.
Ciri's line is about nothing at all🤦
But there were also advantages, Jennifer's line was very pleased with the individual Fishbourne Persians, Sharlto and dwarves with a dwarf, and so on ... there are nuances... big nuances…

P.S. Who looked at the rats separately, did something come out?is it worth it or not worth wasting time on this? It's just that Dolph is registered in the cast, it's interesting to see him in this role.😅
Danman
Danman
03 Nov 22:28 #
@Hamali666: At 2x normal speed, it's a typical robbery movie, but in the world of the Witcher
AxelFolk
AxelFolk
03 Nov 23:25 #
Naruto's filers intrigued me more than this season of the Witcher. It's a cheap parody that takes place on TV3.
AVATARA1
AVATARA1
05 Nov 03:30 #
@AxelFolk: I'm afraid this is an insult to TV3...
stachelchen13
stachelchen13
03 Nov 23:39 #
Well, for all 4 seasons, at least once, but you can say that the scene of killing rats was quite a success.
Cesc
Cesc
04 Nov 01:18 #
I do not know how they will fit everything else into the last season) the events before the wintering of the Hansa, Toussaint himself to show, Ciri and the arena, Ciri and other worlds, the final batch, the lake, plus it is necessary to catch up with the drama at the end... Just 5 minutes each... And considering that they come up with a lot of extra stuff... In general, most likely the druids will be in place, and the campache will stomp right to Vilgeforts. Will they even omit Ella?
Hidji
Hidji
04 Nov 06:31 #
@Cesc: There's also Ciri in the swamps. And I don't remember if it was already or if Ian was supposed to visit the islands later in the story. It seems to have happened during the Wild Hunt... I forgot already
kate_archer
kate_archer
04 Nov 11:01 #
@Hidji: Well, actually, it's time for her to go to Skelliga right now, but there's a feeling that they've definitely been abandoned. And it's not so important by and large, it will come up not at Ard Skellig, but right at Stigg's castle - and we'll go further along the plot.
Lika_aka_Dianka
Lika_aka_Dianka
04 Nov 09:33 #
It's always hilarious that Geralt just wanted to get to the other shore and accidentally became a knight. That's probably all of the pros and cons. Leo came out pretty good.
Oksana_Gol
Oksana_Gol
PRO
04 Nov 14:13 #
I imagined the battle of Rats with Bonart like that, plus or minus. It came out tough and powerful. In general, I think that Bonart is a 100% hit. Charisma and fierce anger 👍🏻
Oksana_Gol
Oksana_Gol
PRO
04 Nov 14:15 #
Dialogue on the boat
"The open sea will start there soon.
- Is the sea salty?!
- And what, another superstition?
- No, it just corrodes the skin. I'm a vampire 🧛♀️
"Aah...."
Vse_zrya
Vse_zrya
PRO
04 Nov 15:12 #
I dedicate you to lytsali, gald and Livia 😅😅😅
Vse_zrya
Vse_zrya
PRO
04 Nov 15:33 #
I feel sorry for the rats
id8204560
id8204560
04 Nov 16:01 #
Everyone loves "The Witcher" for its psychologism, deep existential dialogues about good, evil and motherhood /fatherhood.
kate_archer
kate_archer
04 Nov 16:47 #
@id8204560: more for politics.
id8204560
id8204560
04 Nov 16:58 #
@kate_archer: It's kind of thin, in the spirit of federal channels. Who needs these unfashionable monsters, pfft. Here's a bard broadcasting for the economic situation - it's always fresh and relevant. One good thing is that the rats were so good that saying goodbye to them passed without drama.
Korlian
Korlian
04 Nov 18:35 #
In general, Leo Bonhart and his battle with Rats are the only bright spot in this whole creation.
vk500860
vk500860
04 Nov 20:02 #
Remembering the season in a week's time, only the rat massacre will come back to mind.
Jeffew
Jeffew
PRO
04 Nov 21:25 #
@vk500860: I just watched it and I don't remember anything else...because nothing really happened!
dalaukar
dalaukar
04 Nov 20:23 #
Bonhart cut the entire story from the series.
OK, go ahead ;)
AMZ5
AMZ5
06 Nov 00:41 #
@dalaukar: Well, not all of it... There is still a lot to work on.
djok911
djok911
04 Nov 20:37 #
Buttercup is purely D&D mechanics: flew onto the bridge, used the inspiration of the bard, ran away 😀
lolqcom
lolqcom
04 Nov 21:41 #
The only thing I've enjoyed all season is Leo Bonart and how beautifully he showed the rats who they are)
krook
krook
05 Nov 01:05 #
The whole line of rats/rats went in the style of some anime or candy Carnival. It's like watching a cheap parody of Pirates of the Caribbean or one Piece.
And then rrraz! Guts from the abdomen, blood from all the holes and sawn off heads. This was not the case in any series of The Witcher. And the age limit was immediately supposed to increase by a couple of years.
But with this amount of guts, the nude scene wasn't revealed anyway.
kvasilio
kvasilio
PRO
05 Nov 17:14 #
The last episode turned out to be quite cheerful. As far as I'm concerned, it's a great end to the mid-season. On the positive side of the fourth season, The Witcher (I got a recast), Bonart (a charismatic uncle) and Regis (despite the fact that he turned a little black).
There are fears that all further events will not be crammed into the fifth season and the end will turn out to be crumpled.
musicliveinus
musicliveinus
PRO
05 Nov 18:44 #
Oh, Bonart's battle with the Rats is, in my opinion, the best thing that happened in the series, very spectacular, bravo to the actor!
MaxRomanovskiy
MaxRomanovskiy
05 Nov 22:21 #
When Leo dealt with the rats, it was such a mess, just honey
dezmond774
dezmond774
05 Nov 22:28 #
Everyone is thrilled with Bonart, I agree it was cool. I especially liked how he moves extremely fast, faster than Geralt in the entire series.
But there is one thing. His key description in the books is lifeless "fishy" eyes. And here the actor is too emotional. The best of the season, but not 10 out of 10.
mokky
mokky
05 Nov 23:42 #
The season ended as if it had never begun - I just got into the taste, and now the credits are on the screen. It feels like they've shot all the fun in mid-sentence.
The main characters talked all season about looking for Siri, but for 8 episodes they never got down to business))
The recast didn't bother me much in general, but Liam Hemsworth didn't have the charisma to win back the Herald.
AMZ5
AMZ5
06 Nov 00:25 #
Ahaha. The kids were playing gay pride in the basement, and then the janitor came and dispersed everyone)

Of course, I didn't watch the season (I quit after the first one), but the last 20 minutes are great. I looked at them and was satisfied)
musicliveinus
musicliveinus
PRO
06 Nov 03:02 #
@AMZ5: Wow, it turns out you've been just reading the comments for 3 seasons in a row? much 🙃
Garet
Garet
06 Nov 09:14 #
Recently, there have been 3 series based on good franchises with great potential. How about this, Alien Porridges and the new season of the Witcher, where everyone is terrible in their own way, everyone has become complete degenerates and everyone has their own tiny fan base of the same degenerates who, with their face smeared in chocolate (no), are shaking and telling everyone how delicious they were. A truly epic battle for the title of the worst, only one will win.

The fight was equal, three shits were fighting.


Judging by the ratings, they only watched it for Cavill.
musicliveinus
musicliveinus
PRO
06 Nov 09:33 #
@Garet: Well, the first half of the season was good for Someone else, then yes, we got in a bit 🙃
How it hurts - God forbid, I didn't even think about watching it.
lzhezhaba
lzhezhaba
06 Nov 14:14 #
I liked the scene with the rats at the end.
But mostly it's hard after the book.
If you don't read it, you'll probably go)
bebek
bebek
06 Nov 17:28 #
I tried very hard not to be biased. But the recast didn't come to me, for me the Witcher is Henry. Liam has 0 chemistry with Ian. The bed scenes are just a hand and a face, as if they were being pulled by strings in different directions. The second half of the season was more or less interesting, but in general it was difficult to watch. It's a pity that everything turned out this way, but I'm glad that many people even kind of liked it.
symkun_0
symkun_0
PRO
06 Nov 19:29 #
How colorful Bonart turned out to be. That's not how he went into the book)
LDavinci
LDavinci
06 Nov 21:10 #
There's a special episode released yet, for some reason it's not on the website.
Hidji
Hidji
07 Nov 00:29 #
@LDavinci: it was released as a movie and placed in the appropriate section. Maybe they'll add it later, although now, after some kind of update, the service has almost stopped marking feature films as TV shows.
inight17
inight17
06 Nov 21:39 #
Everything is fine with me 👐🏼 I've read books twice. I've listened to audio books twice. And I immersed myself in a familiar story after watching this season. 🙌🏼
Bestia_Alina
Bestia_Alina
06 Nov 22:45 #
Fuck, there was a lot of howling about the new Witcher, but the scriptwriters are great, they just screwed up the whole plot of the season, that the new Witcher is the last thing that bothers.

And this is seriously the last episode of the season, are you kidding me?
Liyuuuuunder
Liyuuuuunder
PRO
07 Nov 03:30 #
It's an empty season. One of them was walking somewhere, but he didn't get anywhere. The little one was doing some shit, which ended up being terrible. Jennifer's line had at least some kind of outcome, the creation of a new magical union. The witches dragged me in shorter.

Liam looks like a kid who was given the role he dreamed of at a matinee, no severity, just smiling eyes. And a very weak swordsmanship, they could have trained him better at least in this.

I rarely find fault with the series of this genre, but here I was very bored.
DerenLegran
DerenLegran
07 Nov 03:35 #
Ahahahahaph, I loved it when Bonhart fucked those stinking rats. In general, it's funny, of course, that, in theory, all viewers should empathize with rats and hate Leo, but the creators of the Witcher took everything so seriously that Bonart arouses more sympathy than the "positive" characters whom he literally dismembers alive. Bravo netflix
Gamidov
Gamidov
07 Nov 09:26 #
Apart from Henry Cavill, I don't see any other actors for this role.
Dariank
Dariank
07 Nov 12:59 #
Please explain, where has the Wild Hunt gone? Did Ciri stop being interesting to them because she gave up her powers? But she's of senior blood anyway.
Or is it because she can't be found?
musicliveinus
musicliveinus
PRO
07 Nov 14:15 #
@Dariank: It's a pity that they forgot about them at all this season, I wouldn't be surprised if they just skip this branch.
Blew
Blew
07 Nov 13:12 #
The season turned out to be so "impressive" that when people watch it, they pay more attention to the minor characters than to the main ones - Leo, Skellen, Milva, Reggis and others. Netflix has distorted everything so much that viewers have to wander around like in a maze, looking for positive moments and avoiding piles of droppings from the authors of this creation.
Me-wow
Me-wow
07 Nov 14:38 #
In general, the only thing that comes to me from season to season is Buttercup and his soulful voice and facial expressions, and Philippa's images and outfits.
The rest is like that. The background is not scary.
Damokl
Damokl
07 Nov 17:04 #
On the last series I put 4, but only thanks to Leo
TheHeretic
TheHeretic
07 Nov 17:29 #
Just for the sake of Sharlto Koppli, it was worth watching
wassabii
wassabii
07 Nov 17:36 #
Yeah, that sucks. They decided, apparently, to overshadow Cavill's absence with a mediocre script, no main characters and a bunch of guts. Such a low-grade parody of the IP turned out this season. As they said, it's like I watched a bad fanfiction.
Choly_Cavel
Choly_Cavel
08 Nov 01:52 #
Well, I got used to it. The first episode didn't come at all. and the further it went, the more it went...
BadgerSister
BadgerSister
08 Nov 03:19 #
I don't understand what the point is to come up with some new plots other than books, and shove them into the season, and then end the series on the 6th (or 5th?) the season..milk this cow to the end already, the benefit of the original source allows.
I was also skeptical about Hemsworth, but Geralt himself was shown so little, which is normal. Thank you for giving Buttercup his short haircut back at least in the musical, otherwise I like him less with these locks. And it seems that we were promised another trick from him, but alas.
The rats and Bonnart are canonical, thank you.
Of course, Cahir is more sympathetic in books, but I persuaded myself with grief to get used to this actor in half.
Regis is a bit miskish compared to the books, but I like the way Morpheus played it.
In general, the atmosphere, the music there, periodically caused goosebumps, as a fan of books, I didn't have any high hopes for the adequacy of the screenwriters, but that's what it is.
10anya_d
10anya_d
08 Nov 08:06 #
The season turned out to be neither fish nor meat..
Sometimes it's interesting, sometimes it's too fake and naive... the whole Rat thing was infuriating, especially Ciri's "girlfriend"...
the Witcher looked noticeably younger, as if he had gone on anti-aging treatments, thanks to Hemsworth's fresh face, there was no usual sullenness from his appearance, a kind of good-natured guy who periodically grunted... Well, okay, we have what we have...
who knows how, but I'm waiting for the development between Cahir and Nilva.. I haven't read any books, but it seems the scriptwriters are ready to bring them together...
zula22
zula22
08 Nov 18:58 #
And where did these horsemen of the apocalypse - hunters go? and anyway, where did the whole line with Ciri's power go? why and how her father became a White Flame. other interesting lines are silence.
I don't really like this season. I rewound the scenes with Ciri. I liked some crap
about a villain and a vampire who looked like a gray-haired Cossack.
Cesc
Cesc
08 Nov 19:05 #
@zula22: They will have to fit all this into the last season.
cazannova007
cazannova007
08 Nov 20:00 #
gooooooood
ZiZu1710
ZiZu1710
PRO
Yesterday, 19:18 #
Battle on the bridge and beautifully cut out all the rats. It's kind of weak for the season finale. But the whole season turned out to be rather weak than even average.
mikaеldelague7
mikaеldelague7
Yesterday, 19:47 #
"So it turned out that one witcher and one Nilfgaardian allied with him shouted, brandished their swords and without hesitation rushed forward, two companions, two friends, two comrades–in-arms - towards a common enemy, into an unequal battle. And it was their common baptism of fire. A baptism of common fighting, rage, madness, and death. They were going to their deaths, they, two comrades. That's what they thought. After all, they could not have known that they would not die that day on this bridge spanning the Yaruga. They did not know that another death was destined for them both. In another place and at another time..."

I was waiting for the scene where Geralt fends off two arrows flying at Buttercup with his sword, "for the first and last time in my life":(

In general, it was shot on a very low budget, some kind of monster was added... why?

In the book, this scene, after a more or less measured tone of narration, was a real climax.

Here, with these wretched inserts about enchantresses, the whole effect of the scene was killed.

And why Maeve doesn't have gray hair, it was a very cool detail:(

But in general, the parts with Geralt's hansa were very good.

It's a pity that next season is the final one.
Probably everyone will be cut.
veer
veer
Today, 00:19 #
It's a pity that Netflix doesn't have as much desire or resources to reveal the universe as they filmed Game of Thrones. Such a story is being overlooked, which could be milked and milked..
Everything is kind of cardboard, the taste is identical to the natural one)
Hidji
Hidji
Today, 01:11 #
@veer: I think it's easy to give an answer here. Pan Sapkovsky was interested in money, and the exact embodiment of his brainchild in the serial format was relatively unimportant. That's what happened. After all, Netflix knows how to carefully embody book stories on the screens, I finally realized this after watching One Hundred Years of Solitude. There, the author's heirs demanded a plot as close to the text as possible. And surprisingly, that's how it turned out. And here... After all, book fans are always the main audience, they storm movie theaters or watch TV shows at home, pulling up their friends and family, and then down the chain. You shouldn't spit in their face. Like here). But Hissrich is drowning in curses😅
kamikaze
kamikaze
Today, 03:09 #
Okay, for the whole series, I still found something that I liked. Leo is a straight good hit and the carnage scene is well staged.
Otherwise, the series looks like a declaration of professional incompetence by the entire showrunner team.
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