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s01e05 — Episode 5

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Runtime: 40 min.
Release Date: 29.11.202529.11.2025 15:00
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1 season
s01e05
s01e01 - Episode 1
s01e02 - Episode 2
s01e03 - Episode 3
s01e04 - Episode 4
s01e05 - Episode 5
s01e06 - Episode 6
s01e07 - Episode 7
s01e08 - Episode 8
Release date
13 December

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HaiLouYin
HaiLouYin
29 Nov 15:31 #
This series is for aesthetics.
HaiLouYin
HaiLouYin
29 Nov 15:37 #
My brain is temporarily out of order 🫠🫠
HaiLouYin
HaiLouYin
29 Nov 15:50 #
HaiLouYin
HaiLouYin
29 Nov 18:14 #
The time of hidden meaning in the visual.

First of all, everything is fine in this frame.:

— "⚡️" next to Shu Lan — like his outburst of anger, irritation, unspoken "what do you want from me?"
— "I❤️U", hidden behind Fan Xiao's face — as obvious to all of us, but not yet spoken out loud.
HaiLouYin
HaiLouYin
29 Nov 18:14 #
There are scenes in which the visual speaks as loudly as the characters.
Light against shadow, light suit against dark, courage against fear.

In the tense conversation between Shu Lan and Fan Xiao in front of the club — about feelings, about fear, about the right to intimacy — space works as a third interlocutor.

Shu Lan takes Fan Xiao into the shadows to set the accents. Mark the distance. Draw the line before it's too late.

Having said everything, he takes a step towards the light, leaving Fan Xiao alone in the darkness.
Shu Lan stands under a streetlight: in a circle where everything is too clearly visible — his doubts, his honesty, his attempt to understand what Fan Xiao really wants.
HaiLouYin
HaiLouYin
29 Nov 18:23 #
Fan Xiao comes out of the shadows to Shu Lan, hiding his real feelings, continuing to beat around the bush.

And Shu Lan pushes him back into the darkness. Not out of cruelty, but out of fear of making a mistake. Out of a desire to make sure that Fan Xiao understands the weight of his words and the possible consequences.

The light is the territory of sincerity, and going out into it, you need to tell the truth.
HaiLouYin
HaiLouYin
29 Nov 18:29 #
Then they seem to stand at different poles. Shu Lan is in the light. Fan Xiao is in the shadows.
And when Shu Lan turns to leave, his own shadow lies parallel to the one where Fan Xiao is standing.
Two silhouettes walking side by side, but not intersecting. Their lives and their choices are not on the same line yet.

And Fan Xiao finally stops hiding behind the phrase "for one night" and says out loud what he has been hiding for so long: "I love you."

Words that make Shu Lan turn around.
And now only a small part of it is still facing the light. Where "we can't". A shadow almost completely covered him.

Shu Lan wants to believe Fan Xiao's words. Leave behind the "can't" by giving preference to the "can"
HaiLouYin
HaiLouYin
29 Nov 18:31 #
Fan Xiao sees this confusion, catches the doubt, and decides to be sincere. He decides to come out of the shadows.
This is his chance. Not an attempt to seduce, but an attempt to be seen. To be heard.

"I've been making up the stupidest excuses.
There has never been so much work at Bohai that I had to come in person.
I don't like these parks in the swamps at all.
I have a bad sense of direction, but not so bad that I don't use GPS.
Every time I got “lost,” it was just for you to come after me.
My right arm has been healed for a long time... yes, my left one is already better.
Every worthless excuse is just an attempt to be near you, to stay near you.

I do not know if this is "love". You have more experience..."
88Iriska88
88Iriska88
PRO
30 Nov 12:34 #
@HaiLouYin: I liked this revelation. I think after these words, the puzzle in Shu Lan's head took shape and everything stopped seeming like a game on Fan Xiao's part, rather a sincere interest. And the walls finally collapsed
HaiLouYin
HaiLouYin
30 Nov 14:12 #
@88Iriska88: To be honest, after this episode, I started to change my attitude towards Fan Xiao for the better.
This speech of his really touched me.
He might not have told me everything, but he admitted that he no longer had any dignity left when it came to Shu Lan. He's willing to do anything stupid for a drop of attention.

And I agree that this whole tirade clarified the situation in Shu Lan's eyes and allowed him to take a broader look. He already knew that Fan Xiao was acting like an obsessive, but hearing this confession was another level. Fan Xiao didn't deny it: "yes, I'm doing bullshit, yes, I don't fully understand myself, but I want to be there for you." I just poured out my feelings and come what may.

From the mouth of Fan Xiao: "wo ai ni" sounds intense and loud. But I think it was a sincere impulse. He is so overwhelmed by the whole situation that a simple "I like you" would not be able to convey the full depth of his feelings and emotions.

Plus, it was an opportunity to catch Shu Lan off guard: yell? Will it hit? Will he laugh? But he's caught like a fawn in the headlights and can't move a single step. He was waiting for sincerity, he wanted to get emotions, not greasy conversations. And here it is. If you receive it, sign up.

Sometimes a person needs just such a push. Something that will finally move the foundation of doubt. And yes, to quote you, "the walls have finally collapsed."
HaiLouYin
HaiLouYin
29 Nov 18:35 #
And, of course, the final gesture belongs to Shu Lan: he pulls Fan Xiao back into the shadows. He agrees to stay in his world.
He believes in the sincerity of recognition. He believes in the light that Fan Xiao finally decided to turn on.

But the viewer knows what Shu Lan does not know: it is in the shadows that the details that Fan Xiao left out remain.
The light of the lantern illuminates only what the hero is ready to show.
Everything else is hidden nearby, in the semi-darkness, until Shu Lan doesn't even guess where he really stepped into.

And this play of light and shadow is not just a beautiful find, but a metaphor for their relationship.
One comes out earlier, the other later.
One speaks honestly, the other chooses what to show.

And only ahead is the moment when the shadows will cease to be a background and become a truth that cannot be turned away from.

But for now:

"I gave you a chance. You didn't use it. So don't blame me for not holding back now.
HaiLouYin
HaiLouYin
29 Nov 19:08 #
I don't even know what was particularly cute about that scene.

That Fan Xiao was going to give up his active position to Shu Lan.
Or the fact that Shu Lan had given Fan Xiao the opportunity to lead without much thought.

Fan Xiao should hold onto such a man with all his hands and feet.
And honestly, I do not know what Lu Zhen was thinking when he left him. 🤦🏼♀️

Now I'm even curious if Shu Lan will take it out on Fan Xiao when he finds out the whole truth about his manipulations 🤔
Would she show him what their first time might have been like if Shu Lan hadn't been so generous?

Considering that Fan Xiao is as much a virgin as I am an adequate person 😅
HaiLouYin
HaiLouYin
29 Nov 19:09 #
I feel that Fan Xiao's phrase will come back to haunt
HaiLouYin
HaiLouYin
29 Nov 19:24 #
By the way, I love their dynamics: Shu Lan so romantically invited Fan Xiao to continue what he started 😁
innsight
innsight
PRO
29 Nov 19:37 #
@HaiLouYin: Maybe it's time to call the fire department. Otherwise, they will burn down Shu Lan's apartment, literally and figuratively.
HaiLouYin
HaiLouYin
29 Nov 20:49 #
@innsight: Oh yeah🔥🔥 I didn't expect the guys to decide to marathon the entire series.
I could use a fire extinguisher too. I'm still constantly distracted today, I had to start the series again several times... I already thought I was going to have a heart attack.
LaFeeTioka
LaFeeTioka
29 Nov 23:07 #
@HaiLouYin: It was just oh, but even then they managed to insert this joke about "overexcited." And so competently that it is almost imperceptible.
HaiLouYin
HaiLouYin
29 Nov 23:19 #
@LaFeeTioka: Yes, they intertwined it very subtly, and the scene is a fire fire.
China is clearly aiming to dramatically raise our blood pressure this year. If we're going to return to BL, then only as effectively as possible
ek_hasina
ek_hasina
30 Nov 11:29 #
@HaiLouYin: about that phrase of his about virginity. On the one hand, I think Fan Xiao could have told the truth here. After all, he said before that - I'm used to being on top, I need to rebuild. And then he said that he hadn't even had that with women. So I think he just meant that kind of sex. Therefore, purely technically, we can say that yes, he can't do anything and is a virgin. Although, of course, on the other hand, it's a very subtle manipulative move on his part. But is there anyone against it? 🙈🫣
HaiLouYin
HaiLouYin
30 Nov 13:48 #
@ek_hasina: I agree, virginity is a very broad concept, there are many nuances 😁
Fan Xiao knows how to build a situation in such a way that you can always take a step back with the words "you misunderstood me," as was the case with Lu Zhen.
Technically, there is some truth in his words, but he played it very beautifully.: He expressed himself ambiguously so that Shu Lan could sense his vulnerability and swam, and now they were on their second run... third... fourth... or whatever it was.

Fan Xiao just knows which point to push. Shu Lan is very empathetic, and if you come from this side, it's easier to negotiate with him.
Such a revelation immediately endeared him to himself, even if Fan Xiao played with words a little and adjusted the situation to himself.
Yes, not a virgin in the broadest sense of the word, but there is some truth.

As a result, his petty manipulation looks almost natural and is easily justified.😁

And something tells me that Teacher Shu Lan later realized that his student had slightly embellished reality. But they didn't kick him out of bed anymore — apparently, Fan Xiao quickly learns the material 🤭
ek_hasina
ek_hasina
30 Nov 16:22 #
@HaiLouYin: Yes, I agree, the way Fan Xiao knows how to play with words and skillfully weave them into a situation in a way that benefits him, it's just something from the category of unreal. I would like to learn from him , and it is even interesting to see how he will get out of it later when all his secret plans are revealed .
HaiLouYin
HaiLouYin
29 Nov 20:44 #
Fan Xiao is a storyteller, of course.
 Listening to him, it's hard to tell when he's telling the truth and when he's embellishing for show.

And I'm glad that the story of the tragedy with my mother was true from beginning to end, and did not turn into another reason to unbutton Shu Lan's fly.
 I understand Fan Xiao's desire to bask in his care for longer.

I was amused that Shu Lan had already revealed the pretense with his hand, but he continued to play along with Fan Xiao.
In general, the collapse of his performance even benefited him.
It made it easier to confess to other offenses. However, in the most harmless cases. He presented his repentance to Shu Lan carefully and selectively.
He told me just enough to show his sincerity, but left the biggest pitfalls in the shadows. 
In fact, Fan Xiao just confirmed what Shu Lan already saw in him: obsession and dependence on his attention.

But I liked the step anyway. It might have been small things, but that's why the confession carried weight.
 Not pretty phrases, but open vulnerability. He showed Shu Lan how pathetic he was when it came to him.

And now a few compliments to Shu Lan. His words outside the club were very powerful. He's back without masks, without excuses. He voiced his feelings, shared his fears, and made it clear that everything was too serious for him.
 Shu Lan is not looking for an affair. He lives in a world where being gay is not a romantic detail, but a reality full of difficulties.

I really believe that Fan Xiao's confession is mostly sincere and not just another manipulation. Although I don't believe in his "I'm a virgin, teach me" for a second.
 The guy was just looking for an excuse to run a marathon, and "studying" was just a convenient excuse.
And yes, I think it was important for him to have sex at Shu Lan's house. It's nice to occupy the bed that Lu Zhen used to sleep in.

By the way, this baby continues to live up to expectations.
 It was even funny to see how he took off when Fan Xiao called.
Fan Xiao's ingenious way of getting Lu Zhen away as soon as possible.
And he masterfully turned the situation around so as to remain unnoticed, but not to arouse suspicion from Shu Lan. 
After all, just insisting on hiding it — well, that. It's too pale. As it is, Fan Xiao plays on Shu Lan's generosity: he pretends that such a step would be taking care of Lu Zhen's feelings. 
And deservedly ends up in the bedroom.

I knew that the game with Lu Zhen was coming to an end, and I was wondering how Fan Xiao imagined it. And this farewell dinner was poignant. Fan Xiao poked Lu Zhan's infidelity again. It's generally one of his favorite pastimes to occasionally indirectly touch on this topic. 
And most importantly, that "love of models" has finally taken shape. He immediately warned Lu Zhen that he was falling in love with everyone... but not for long.
 And there's no arguing about it: I warned you that this was a sham from the very beginning.

The fact that this game turned Lu Zhen's head so much is just a pleasant coincidence. After all, if he were a more responsible partner in a relationship, it would be much more difficult to get him.

This episode was too calm.

I'm already worried: the trolley has reached the very top of the roller coaster, and it's unlikely that it will stay there for long.
 It seems like she's going to go down soon. And I better hold on tight.
innsight
innsight
PRO
29 Nov 21:03 #
@HaiLouYin: And note that Shu Lan sent Zhen Zhen all the things, but did not see the painting. That is, Zhen was hiding her somewhere behind a chest of drawers, hiding her from Shu Lan as an affair. And let everything in this picture be innocent, but in Zhen Zhen's head he has already cheated on Shu Lan a hundred times.
HaiLouYin
HaiLouYin
29 Nov 21:15 #
@innsight: Yes, the baby has everything thought out to the smallest detail. I remember that Fan Xiao asked the assistant to find out who Shu Lan's girlfriend was (back then). We made inquiries. And there was something in his biography that indicated that it was easy to lure him out with gifts and money. It might not be the first time he's done something like this, and leaving escape routes is a must for him. Although they seem to have been with Shu Lan for a long time, in theory he could not gain experience in this matter. Apparently, the boy is just smart. Shu Lan knows how to attract manipulators to himself.
LaFeeTioka
LaFeeTioka
30 Nov 00:11 #
@HaiLouYin: I'll squeeze in my pennies about dinner and Fan Xiao and Lu Zhen's "breakup." When Fan Xiao reminded me of his own words that he was falling in love with models for a while, and then that he had never crossed the line, I sat and thought, "but he didn't lie." Fan Xiao had never done anything that could be considered a direct attack during his entire time with Lu Zhen. Well, the situation was ambiguous for a couple of days at most, but even there there were conditional boundaries. He just poked it lightly, and Lu Zhen figured out the rest himself. I wouldn't even call it a feeling game. Fan Xiao immediately warned that he was not seriously beckoning and beckoned, but Lu Zhen just threw himself into it all. And while Fan Xiao really kept the boundaries, Lu Zhen erased them in his head. So in this particular situation, I'm on Fan Xiao's side. He played this game very well and prepared his escape routes. Honestly, you can't even find fault with him for that. The only claim was that he knew exactly who Shu Lan and Lu Zhen were, and he understood exactly what the consequences would be from even a slight hint towards Lu Zhen. 🤷
innsight
innsight
PRO
30 Nov 00:19 #
@LaFeeTioka: Fan Xiao, of course, easily fell in love with Zheng with his game. Remember the non-existent mosquito on Zhen's neck. Even then, Zheng's face showed interest in the Fan. And he hasn't started giving gifts yet.

But! A person in their right mind, having a serious relationship with someone, would immediately build boundaries. He would not accept gifts, would not let you touch his neck, etc., which Zhen did not do.
LaFeeTioka
LaFeeTioka
30 Nov 00:30 #
@innsight: I agree with you about the boundaries! Shu Lan didn't have any problems with that at all. He had a partner, he said it clearly. And even though he was melting like an ice cream cone in the sun under the pressure of Fan Xiao, he still held on and pushed him away from himself.
HaiLouYin
HaiLouYin
30 Nov 01:21 #
@LaFeeTioka: I also have questions only about the motive, and everything else was essentially discussed at the first meeting. As they say: I'm an artist — that's how I see it.

I also like one detail: that day, he immediately started by asking about Lu Zhen's partner. Already at the beginning of the acquaintance, the main accents were placed: "Lu Zhen is in a relationship." Next, he asks to be treated as kindly as his partner.
On the one hand, it is an opportunity to immediately jump over the barrier of formal frameworks, and on the other, it is a subtle game that creates the illusion of special closeness for Lu Zhen. And most importantly, Lu Zhen allowed himself to feel this way, and not Fan Xiao suddenly decided to start "being gentle."

And this is indeed Fan Xiao's way of setting boundaries. Affectionate treatment is his style of work, his rule. But the borders of Lu Zhen have swum. And then courtship was added: he helped, supported, and pleased with a gift. Moreover, mostly not personally, but through an assistant. And here you can see the romance.: "Fan Xiao thinks about me even when he's busy." Yes, and all this is also flavored with this affectionate "Zhen Zhen". It's very easy to think of an associative series here.
Besides, Fan Xiao kept asking about Lu Zhen's boyfriend: where is he, does he mind? He asked provocative questions like, "What if the perfect person in public has a dirty secret?" It was as if he was giving him the opportunity to retreat. He reminded me that there was a line between them.

There was no need to remind Shu Lan, who constantly emphasized that he was busy and did not allow Fan Xiao to approach. Although, as it turned out now, it cost him a lot of effort.

Well, Lu Zhen just threw himself into it, just like you wrote. He is already "Zhen Zhen" to Fan Xiao. And the fact that everything was discussed at the first meeting disappeared somewhere in the background. Only the gentle fleur remained, and each sign of Fan Xiao's attention began to carry much more weight.

If you take a step back and look at the whole picture, Fan Xiao really didn't put much effort into it. He didn't try to poach Lu Zhen. He himself persistently went to Fan Xiao.
Yes, his actions can be interpreted in two ways, but they fully fit into the concept of "falling in love with models."
And Lu Zhen can't object to that anymore. Just like me actually 😌
88Iriska88
88Iriska88
PRO
30 Nov 13:18 #
I think it became clear to many who Zhen was from the moment he came as a model. When he saw Fan Xiao, interest flashed in his eyes. He was still trying to hold on, but after the incident in the bar, he finally swam and made up something incomprehensible to himself. He didn't need a bird in his arms, he reached for a crane. And Fan immediately saw through him, skillfully played on this and was able to get Zheng out of the way without much effort. Perhaps he thought for a second that it would be nice to have fun with Zheng, because everything can't revolve around Lan. It was not difficult to meet Zheng at the bar, this is already different from Lan, who can refuse, so such manipulations did not arouse interest. Then he drugged Zheng's drink, but not because he thought he would be rejected without it, but simply wanted to see Zheng in the same situation that Shu Lan was in. This scene is firmly embedded in Fan's head, it's not for nothing that he watches this video periodically. But Zhen again did not have the desired effect, and he was quickly sent home. Fan didn't even want to get his hands dirty anymore, he just passed the gifts through an assistant, because the goal of removing Zhen from Lan's life remained. Fan did not promise him love, he said that he was falling a little in love with the object he was working on, no matter what or who it would be. I added a few languid looks, ambiguous words, and that's it. And the fact that in the end Zheng's fantasies crumbled like a house of cards, well, it was his own fault. He stayed at the broken trough.
LaFeeTioka
LaFeeTioka
30 Nov 20:00 #
@88Iriska88: I also think that the drug situation for Zhen showed Fan Xiao that he did not switch to guys in principle, but that it was Shu Lan who attracted him and dragged him into his pool. It was like checking for myself whether Shu Lan alone has such an effect on Fan Xiao or not. And he definitely made sure that he had such feelings and such a craving for only one Shu Lan. Well, plus, it confirmed that Zhen does not value the relationship with his partner, which means that they will simply be divorced in order to get the desired Shu Lan.
HaiLouYin
HaiLouYin
29 Nov 21:10 #
Damn, China is going to kill me with its special approach to storytelling. Perhaps one more observation and I've had enough.

Fan Xiao's fake tire is almost an allegory about how hard it is to wear deception and how liberating the truth is.

He removes not only the fictitious protection of his hand, but also one of his many masks.
 And the first thing he feels is relief. Real, physical, tangible.
And there is a subtle hint of what happens next.
Fan Xiao has been building little contraptions around himself for so long — rigged meetings, exaggerations, "accidental" appearances next to Shu Lan. There is a sincere (albeit on the verge of obsession) desire to be closer and in any way that he went to this closeness.

And it's as if the relief of being freed from one lie helps him take a step towards revealing others.
It's like the body is remembering: So that's what freedom is: don't pretend, don't hold a mask, don't live in perpetual tension.

There is a feeling that the scene is built as a direct metaphor: what Fan Xiao was hiding was heaviness.
It doesn't matter whether it's physical or emotional. Any falsehood requires effort. He endured the discomfort of everyday life for the sake of Shu Lan's attention, as if he was paying for the opportunity to be noticed.

But after removing the tire, he felt for a moment what it was like not to fight his own deception. And this state of lightness, freedom in movement, gives him the impulse to finally tell the truth about other manipulations.

When he reveals his games, he risks losing Shu Lan completely. But it is at this moment that the hope arises that there will be no forced pity or reaction to the performance, but something honest.
Sincere participation. Real concern. Something that shouldn't be earned with fake injuries and fake meetings.

Fan Xiao allows himself to be vulnerable without decorations. And this gives his confession sincerity.
innsight
innsight
PRO
29 Nov 21:42 #
@HaiLouYin: It seems that if Fan Xiao tells Shu Lan about all his bad deeds now, he will forgive him. Maybe not immediately, but gradually. It's too easy to put pressure on his pity. But, apparently, the truth will come out from someone else's mouth, which will awaken his dark side in Shu Lan. I can't wait for Fan Xiao to see the devil in his Bodhisattva!
HaiLouYin
HaiLouYin
29 Nov 21:59 #
@innsight: When Fan Xiao was listing his exploits to Shu Lan, I thought: you can throw the rest on top — one sin more, one less... but the moment when Fan Xiao was testing the waters about Lu Zhen's betrayal, I tensed up. Shu Lan abruptly put Fan Xiao in his place and turned the subject around. Lu Zhan abandoned him, but Shu Lan treats him with understanding and respects his choice. And I'm afraid it's this particular "game" that Shu Lan won't forgive so easily.
However, this is Shu Lan. He's an angel. For now... and that's why it will be more interesting to transform into a demon. I feel like it's going to be epic. I think you're right – Fan Xiao will delay confessing until Shu Lan finds out for himself. Look, I figured out about the hand myself. So here it adds two plus two.
I can't wait for this moment either 😏
innsight
innsight
PRO
29 Nov 22:15 #
@HaiLouYin: I think you're right, this Bodhisattva of his cares too much about Zhen Zhen, as if he were an innocent child. Well, what can I do, this is Shu Lan. He'd rather be left alone with his common sense than let someone hurt his loved ones, even if it's an ex. Moreover, Shu is really worried about Zheng. This is evident when they break up and Shu warns him that it will be hard for him alone in this cruel modeling and acting world. Emphasizing that she would no longer be able to take care of him.
HaiLouYin
HaiLouYin
29 Nov 23:16 #
@innsight: Such a moment is really missed 😁 It seems to me that Shu Lan could have ignored it altogether. Fan Xiao would then remind him, "Do you remember when I told you about this at the gay bar? No? Your problems" 😁😁
And I would also turn on the voice recorder, for reliability.

And I'm sure that Fan Xiao hedged his bets on Lu Zhen and collected dirt to cover his ass. But I think Shu Lan won't care anymore, even if that's the case. You said it very accurately: "...cares too much about Zhen Zhen, as if he were an innocent child."

He might just not believe Fan Xiao, saying that his sweet boy couldn't be so rotten.
And if you remember exactly how Fan Xiao approached Shu Lan himself, then the picture is clear. Shu Lan will decide that Fan Xiao used the young man for his own purposes, manipulated him to get close to Shu Lan and get him into bed.
And you can't argue, it's almost the pure truth. Except for the myth of Lu Zhen's innocence.
Although Shu Lan is a kind person, he is not naive. He may well be disappointed in Lu Zheng after seeing his true face.
And in the end, the two people he trusted the most betrayed his trust.
That's where Shu Lan's canteen will definitely fly off 🫣

I'm just amazed at what a wonderful person Shu Lan is. He has a rare capacity for compassion — so strong that the appearance of people like Lu Zhen and Fan Xiao in his life seems almost natural. He is too good at looking at the world through the eyes of another, and this always blurs the boundaries.

But it's these people who get to the point where all the pity evaporates. When it turns out that their kindness has been taken advantage of, they stop sparing anyone.

And I like that we are slowly approaching the breaking of the greenflag.
Not where the red flag repents, changes shoes, and is forgiven.
And where a man who seemed incapable of cruelty by nature goes into cold-blooded darkness.
And it's not going to be that easy to get him out of there.
LaFeeTioka
LaFeeTioka
29 Nov 23:23 #
@innsight @HaiLouYin I think it's quite noble that Shu Lan distinguishes between that relationship and this one and doesn't want to speak ill of the former. It's a rare quality in a person to let go so calmly and not pour mud on top of the departed. After all, they had been together for a long time, and Shu Lan definitely respected Zhen, and that hadn't changed. It was just that their separation was inevitable to some extent, if everything Zheng said about his own feelings and feelings was true. And I understand that Shu Lan has an almost life philosophy: "if this happened, then you shouldn't regret it, you have to move on." He lives in the present, so talking about his ex, discussing who betrayed whom or something like that, is not his style. Zhen is gone and left in the past, now Shu Lan has Fan Xiao - and this is the only important and meaningful thing.
innsight
innsight
PRO
29 Nov 23:40 #
@HaiLouYin: Alternatively, he could have blurted out the rest of the truth when he was undressing in front of Shu Lan. Then Shu was too vulnerable, as if everything would have passed by his ears.🤭 How he told him that he would take him even if he was straight.

Shu is really such an angel that it's easier for him to find an excuse for the actions of others and help them than to ignore and avoid them. And yes, kindness will evaporate when Shu can no longer find excuses for Fan and Zhen's actions. Now he feels too much for both of them, Fan Xiao with a childhood injury, Zhen Odin in another country, where he went because of him.

Shu Lan is actually my crush. This type of man is simply admirable.
HaiLouYin
HaiLouYin
29 Nov 23:41 #
@LaFeeTioka: I agree, it's definitely a noble act. And what's the point of having a showdown if a person has already decided everything for himself? You need to turn the page and move on. Moreover, for a new relationship, it doesn't matter at all why the old ones ended. The past remains in the past.

I remember their conversation about filming, the moment when Lu Zhen seemed to be testing the boundaries and asking: "What if they offer me nudes?" And Shu Lan, without a shadow of doubt, replied that he would accept any decision he made.

And that's probably why I think it will hurt him so much to find out the details of their breakup. He protected Lu Zhen with such tenderness, respect, and trust. And this image can collapse in an instant. Moreover, all this is from Fan Xiao's light hand.

Although, perhaps the thought that their breakup was inevitable would soften the blow for Shu Lan. They say Fan Xiao just accelerated what was supposed to happen anyway.
innsight
innsight
PRO
29 Nov 23:47 #
@LaFeeTioka:
Yes, he's too noble to spread nasty gossip about his ex. Even if they had quarreled to the nines, and not quietly parted, as they are now, Shu definitely would not have stooped to silly conversations. He would rather keep his grudges inside or look for an excuse for Zheng's actions again.
HaiLouYin
HaiLouYin
30 Nov 00:07 #
@innsight: Yeah, there were so many possibilities.

I just understand Shu Lan. She probably would have thought the same way. Especially when it comes to Lu Zheng. A man has started a new life for you, stepped into the unknown. Even if you later parted ways, this act remains strong and courageous. All the same, gratitude, respect and a slight shadow of responsibility will remain in my soul.

And Fan Xiao may act out a one-man show from time to time, but there is a fragile side to it. When he shows it, you want to cherish it. And be grateful for the trust.

I also think that there will be a backstory of Shu Lan soon. There have already been hints that his childhood is much more tragic. I think the roots of his worldview and attitude towards people grow from there. If I understood correctly, he was an orphan and had to cope with life on his own. Perhaps a certain "rescuer's syndrome" has become entrenched in him — a bonus to this.

And yes, I totally agree, Shu Lan is amazing. It's just impossible to remain indifferent here. 🫠
innsight
innsight
PRO
30 Nov 00:44 #
@HaiLouYin: A difficult childhood, in any case, hardened him. But so far, it doesn't seem to say anywhere that he grew up alone. He only said that he grew up in a poor family, fished to survive (if the subtitles don't fail).
HaiLouYin
HaiLouYin
30 Nov 01:56 #
@innsight: After the story with the bites, I'm already afraid to trust the subtitles, but they didn't seem to let me down anymore. Shu Lan is not a particularly talkative guy, so for now I'm giving my imagination some space. 😁
Who knows, he was forced to find food for himself from the age of 7 to 14, then perhaps something could have happened to his parents, and he was left all alone. I just can't get his reaction to saving a child that his mother wanted to dump out of my head... but I'm still imagining, in Waiting for the moment when Shu Lan decides to trust us 😁
innsight
innsight
PRO
29 Nov 17:53 #
Can I end this episode? I don't want to continue with the glass. Just kidding, of course, give us all the emotions that we were promised! Although Fan Xiao is better at joking. He's a virgin, yeah.

An amazing series. I liked how Fan and Shu's relationship started. Shu Lang gives him a couple of seconds to think, saying you know how hard it is to be gay, you have the opportunity to change your mind, but even if you don't, I'll pin you to the wall and I won't give you any more options.

The declaration of love sounded very sincere, and I'm glad that we also heard Fan's mental declaration of love. If he can't help but admit what he loves in his thoughts, then there can be no doubt at all.

And Shu Lang surprised me by letting Fan take the lead in bed, which is kind of noble on his part again. Shu is so caring about sex! Zhen Zhen, did you really know your boyfriend?

In general, I don't feel sorry for Zhen Zhen. Fan Xiao, of course, picked a crack in their relationship with Shu, but, again, Shu knows for sure that if the guy could be taken away, then there was a crack from the beginning.
lexsograf
lexsograf
PRO
29 Nov 18:45 #
A series called "Kroooliki"!
Shu Lan should have crushed Xiao and fucked him, otherwise, as a result, there is no longer a living place from the efforts of the "virgin" in "study", we have already seen this somewhere...:)
But seriously, it's certainly powerful to go from "Director Fan" to "I'll always be with you" in one episode, while showing the full range of this transition. Shock within shock.

LaFeeTioka
LaFeeTioka
29 Nov 23:32 #
Gods, what are they doing 🫣 🫠 🫠 🫠
LaFeeTioka
LaFeeTioka
29 Nov 23:57 #
@LaFeeTioka: I honestly didn't expect them to start cooing so early. I thought it would take a couple more series of direct hints from Fan Xiao for Shu Lan to succumb. But the disarming honesty just gave a powerful impetus to the development of these relationships. Well, I didn't think Fan Xiao would suddenly declare his love. Although he told himself later that he was lying here, but his obsession is just his form of love. Because all these words about stupid excuses to see each other and be close are the pure truth. Is it love? Fan Xiao doesn't really understand it himself. But where have you seen a straight man who so desperately wants one particular man? If this is not love (yes, in such an obsessive, sometimes sophisticated and cruel form), then Fan Xiao just went nuts)
Shu Lan is no better here either. He initially knew that Fan Xiao was straight, but he still managed to melt away from his tricks, although he considered them jokes and jokes. And from the looks of it, he was also holding back a lot from dragging Fan Xiao to bed first. Here, as they say, you can't order your heart. Although Shu Lan's endurance is clearly stronger than Fan Xiao's))

I wonder what will happen when the whole truth is revealed. That's when Shu Lan realizes that Fan Xiao greatly contributed to his separation from Zhen. And that's when Zhen himself finds out that all these gifts were to actually push him away and get Shu Lan. For some reason, it seems that Zhen will be the first to find out and will go to tell Shu Lan about it. In theory, Shu Lan should react calmly, because he himself said that he did not need a partner who could be taken away + at the breakup, Zhen finally expressed his real feelings and thoughts about their relationship - there were no happy prospects. But whether this will actually happen is a big question. In fact, Fan Xiao just pushed where the crack was already in order to make it bigger faster. The methods are not the most pleasant and honest, but it was already broken there, and he just helped to see and understand it. It's just important now not to throw on top of another lie from Fan Xiao.
innsight
innsight
PRO
30 Nov 00:07 #
@LaFeeTioka: Fan Xiao will have to work hard to regain Shu Lan's favor. Even if Fan has proof that Zhen was the first to betray Shu, I think it won't be easy to get Shu to listen to the whole truth.

And I'm just wondering if Shu decides to forgive Fan, then... The first time, Shu said that he didn't want Fan to regret their first night together. But, what's stopping him from making him regret in the future?! Oh, my thoughts... 🤭
LaFeeTioka
LaFeeTioka
30 Nov 00:21 #
@innsight: To be honest, I don't even see much reason for Shu Lan to be angry with Fan Xiao yet. I guess that makes me a person with a strange worldview. 😅
It was just that Shu Lan's relationship with Lu Zhen was clearly not as perfect as it seemed. Yes, it hurts to lose the person you love and have been with for so long, who made great sacrifices for you. But so far, Shu Lan himself was fine in this relationship, apparently, Lu Zhen was not. Therefore, why keep him by your side, because this relationship will not bring anything good to anyone in the end. If it wasn't Fan Xiao, then there would have been someone else who could take Lu Zhen away 🤷
Fan Xiao's other manipulations were only partially manipulations. There was still quite a lot of sincerity and real desire in them. Except for that story about the drug and the hickeys on the unconscious Shu Lan. That's where you can get angry. Although thanks to Fan Xiao, he didn't go further than hickeys, but he could have.
I haven't seen anything else as terribly fast-paced as it was, for example, in the situation in Desire, where Hua Yun broke the nature and will of Shao Yu. Fan Xiao is just rolling up, talking about it right now. His manipulations help the cause, but they don't break Shu Lan.
innsight
innsight
PRO
30 Nov 00:24 #
@LaFeeTioka: That's how it is. But, let's not forget about the accident, about the abduction with biting and about other deceptions in order to arouse pity from Shu Lan. Do you think they won't come up? Da Fan Xiao will tell you everything himself, as he has already drowned in this crazy love, mixed with the burden of lies.
innsight
innsight
PRO
30 Nov 00:29 #
@LaFeeTioka: Shu Lan will probably forgive Fan. Just to start, he'll blow off his steam by picking up a bat. But then, when he cools down, he will find an excuse for his actions again.
LaFeeTioka
LaFeeTioka
30 Nov 00:34 #
@innsight: it may well be))
It's still interesting to compare the scenes from the screensaver and closing credits with how it happens in the series itself)) There must be a good reason for the bit, definitely. Perhaps Fan Xiao will still screw up to earn a bat all over his body. After all, there are still a lot of episodes ahead. We're definitely not going to wallow in flowers for the rest of the series.
88Iriska88
88Iriska88
PRO
30 Nov 13:44 #
@innsight, @LaFeeTioka: Fan Xiao still has so many not very beautiful deeds on the way to Shu Lan that it was really possible to reveal at least one of his sins and tell about his acquaintance with Zheng.

Fan, of course, tried to hint at Lan more than once, but it didn't work. "Whoever sings in this bar sounds great," and then invites Lan to come to the bar to keep company so that he can see for himself what his boyfriend is doing, but he can't. Then he lets you listen to the song on the phone, but Lan did not recognize the voice. Then, at a picnic in the park, he gives Lan some snacks that Zhen prepared for Fan, apparently thinking that he will understand something, but Lan will not recognize. It turns out that Zhen didn't cook for him. The attempt failed again.

In general, he had the opportunity to successfully insert this fact into the conversation when he brought a drunk Lan home and stayed there overnight. There are a lot of photos around the house, I could say something from the series: "Oh, is this your boyfriend? And I know him, I painted him in the studio, we met, flirted, went out for a drink together, and in general he didn't mind going to bed with me." But for some reason he didn't. And now, when this truth is revealed along with the others, it will hurt both of us, and it will be like crunching glass.
innsight
innsight
PRO
30 Nov 13:47 #
@88Iriska88: Zhen apparently not only did not cook, but also did not sing for his beloved. And what kind of one-way relationship was that!?
88Iriska88
88Iriska88
PRO
30 Nov 15:47 #
@innsight: He didn't want to be with Shu Lan at first, but then he kind of gave him a chance. To a large extent, Zhen simply allowed himself to be loved and took for granted everything that Lan gave him.

It seems to me that he even went to Tai after him, because he lived all this time like Christ in his bosom. Lan is reliable, rich, and loves him, so she won't leave him and will help him with everything. And the fact that he gave up everything and moved in with him can sometimes be mentioned and used to emphasize his importance.

And now Zhen was more or less back on his feet, then he met Fan and, thinking that he had caught a bigger fish, packed up his things and waved goodbye to Lan.

I'm not completely sure what it was: the love that once lived in my heart, or shame, or maybe a little fear of a new one, but when Lan accepted the fact that they were breaking up and was about to leave, Zhen ran up from behind and hugged him as if he had been abandoned. Maybe he wanted to be fought for, said something, asked to stay, but he did not hear these words from Lan.

Lanyu's last words were so sad, I even felt a little sorry for Zhen.: "Have you ever loved me? You are very kind, attentive, caring, but is this really love? You're the perfect guy, but I don't feel your presence. Your joy, anger, and sadness… I can't share them with you. When you are silent, smoking, smiling, I feel that you are lonely. Even when you're hugging me, being with me, I still feel that you're lonely."

Perhaps he partly wanted to absolve himself of responsibility for leaving Lanya, but I think he actually felt it — loneliness next to his beloved. Most likely, feelings have cooled on both sides, and a habit has remained. And Fan just pushed both of them, but Zhen turned out to be faster and broke up with Lan. And he was bound by responsibility for Zheng and his former feelings, so he did not dare.

It's just that if you look at how Lan and Zhen feel around Fan, you can see that their relationship has actually been over for a long time. Fan flirts on purpose, shows interest, gives gifts, he teases, and Zhen feels attracted, has a taste for life, he perks up.

Lan, next to Fan, also feels this attraction, he shares something intimate, talks openly, even the moments when they just stand and smoke sound louder than words. Fan got to the place where Zhen's passage was blocked.

So thanks to Fan for helping two people take a step towards separation, and not drown in the swamp of routine. It's a pity that all this is using tricks and manipulations, but otherwise it would be harder to rouse Lanya.
innsight
innsight
PRO
30 Nov 15:58 #
@88Iriska88: So you correctly noted "remove responsibility". I tried to put pressure on you, saying I'm breaking up with you, but it's your fault.

Why blame Shu Lan? While Shu was yours, you had a mouth to talk, hands to cook at least occasionally, feet to come to work to at least bring coffee. If you don't give your best in a relationship, then why should Shu break himself? Well, he's such a person, silently loves and cares as much as possible. And also, it works a lot, it contains. And, mind you, Shu is the only one who asks questions at the end of the working day. And Zhen Zhen just answers. And then he complains that Shu is always smoking alone on the sidelines, and does not pay enough attention to him.
LaFeeTioka
LaFeeTioka
30 Nov 19:53 #
@innsight @88Iriska88 And these are all Zheng's lamentations against the background of his words that it was he who initially sought Shu Lan, they look strange. Like he was the initiator of this relationship, he wanted this guy for himself and eventually got him, but then somehow he didn't even think to deepen the connection, really understand the partner. And when parting, he turns the arrows back to Shu Lan, that he is detached and closed, that there is no sense of return from him. Although in fact, the whole reason is Lu Zheng himself, who again thought of something for himself and did not want to go deep into the relationship. There was a feeling at one point that Lu Zhen had gotten involved in a relationship with Shu Lan purely for the sake of status and money, which was why it was so easy to lure him with trinkets and half-glances. The expectations were not fulfilled, although in fact Shu Lan just gave him everything, did everything for him, but apparently not in the way he wanted and somehow came up with Zhen.
Ria_lf
Ria_lf
PRO
30 Nov 00:27 #
Mr. Fan, aren't you freaking out? Love you??? Do you love Zhen Zhen??? What???????? It was like I hit your face with something heavy, but then of course he got better! But still!!!
88Iriska88
88Iriska88
PRO
30 Nov 13:55 #
@Ria_lf: So he immediately told Zhen that he would fall in love with him a little when he started painting his portrait in the first episodes. Just like he fell in love with the flower and cloud he was painting. But then they also compared him to a dead cicada, apparently to make it more painful to fall from heaven to earth.
dib_exo
dib_exo
03 Dec 11:58 #
@88Iriska88: the dead cicada abruptly knocks down all the romance)
Ria_lf
Ria_lf
PRO
30 Nov 00:28 #
The bed scenes are so beautiful.... I've watched it so many times!!! It's really beautiful!!!

I watched with my mouth open!

Not only are the scenes beautiful, but also the lines. Sometimes the words alone were enough to see.

Wow Wow Wow

I'm waiting. We got the sweetness, then there will be a glass
budurr
budurr
30 Nov 17:13 #
Oh, the bet didn't play.)

But still, I'm starting to think that Fangxiao deliberately did everything so that he could be on top in the end.
innsight
innsight
PRO
30 Nov 17:20 #
@budurr: Yes, of course. He's a 100-level manipulator. I put a little pressure on Shu Lan's stinger and that's it, I got my way.
budurr
budurr
30 Nov 17:30 #
@innsight: I wonder where and how he leveled up?)
innsight
innsight
PRO
30 Nov 17:36 #
@budurr: I think his cruel family made him like this. Do you remember when he talked about a baby bird being pushed out of the nest? So, apparently, he had to survive in this world by himself, like a lost chick. It's not in his nature to give in and lose. I came, I saw, I won.
Fania
Fania
01 Dec 22:14 #
@budurr: Yes, it is. In the novel, this is described more qualitatively than it is played.
budurr
budurr
01 Dec 22:18 #
@Fania: Oh sly, oh sly)

And spoiler, please, is there he?
innsight
innsight
PRO
02 Dec 01:01 #
@budurr: Yes, there's a happy ending.
budurr
budurr
02 Dec 01:10 #
@innsight: Thanks)
So, we'll have fun crunching the glass in the process.)
Alieva_U
Alieva_U
30 Nov 21:47 #
It was too emotional!
At first, I was shocked by the frankness and aesthetics of the conversation at the club, then by the distribution of the asset/liability role, then my heart stopped at such an nc scene from China! From China, motherfucker! I haven't seen such scenes from them since 2016. And then a test from Fan Xiao: "This is my first time." But at first I believed him.
I like this kind of Fan Xiao, lively, worried, who couldn't smoke from excitement)
I fell for his bait and believed everything he said)

Yu Shulan, my love, covered me with a warm blanket made of care:
- Replace the curtains, add 10 layers. Sun or darkness, wherever you are, I will be there!

Zhenzhen changed his shoes as soon as he got the call. I feel sorry for him anyway. I hope this is youth, and over time he will learn to understand what is really valuable. By the way, this also applies to Fan Xiao, I hope he understands that you can not play with people and their feelings, and Yu Shulan will show him a normal life with a normal relationship.
budurr
budurr
01 Dec 00:20 #
budurr
budurr
01 Dec 00:21 #
budurr
budurr
01 Dec 00:21 #
budurr
budurr
01 Dec 00:23 #
The first time, right?
budurr
budurr
01 Dec 00:24 #
How did they not burn down the whole house?
budurr
budurr
01 Dec 00:28 #
Good
budurr
budurr
01 Dec 00:30 #
torysaan
torysaan
01 Dec 16:26 #
This is ULTANULI duck ultanuli all at once on the 5th series!!!

They're just made for each other. 🥵🔥🔥🔥

His hands itch not only to draw..

Everything is perfect from and to
torysaan
torysaan
01 Dec 16:38 #
I wonder how many times you can watch this series?
Alieva_U
Alieva_U
01 Dec 17:15 #
@torysaan: Yes
torysaan
torysaan
01 Dec 17:16 #
When you try to quit smoking, it will be the most important boss!!!
MintSu
MintSu
PRO
01 Dec 21:32 #
Oh God, good. You made me catch a hyperfix on this drama.. HAVE YOU ACHIEVED YOUR GOAL?!
Phew.
I love it.. It's something with something. It's just tightened up be healthy.
I've watched some scenes 10 times and I'm ready to watch them again.
It's well shot, the dialogues are great, and you're constantly thinking about Fan Xiao's actions - true or false

I really like how Xiao is getting away from meeting Zhen at Shu Lan's apartment 🤭
First he says he doesn't want to come out to make Zhen Zhen suffer, and then: "Don't let him be disappointed that you have a boyfriend." Well, it was good

What a nasty Zhen Zhen turned out to be.. Just to get the benefit, little kid. I just received the gifts and was ready to give myself up for it.
I liked how Xiao reminded me of his first sentence, that he loves every object he draws)
It was beautiful. It made me feel better that Zhen Zhen was fucked up.
MintSu
MintSu
PRO
01 Dec 21:39 #
Speaking of translation, by the way.
If you are not watching autosabs, or you are reviewing them after them, then I advise you to look at the MINIMVS translation. Their dialogues look more lively and correct than those of ART, for example.

In the conversation scene in Shu Lan's apartment, I liked that MINIMVS translates to "let's change the curtains" - Fan Xiao is already saying that they do everything together. Art translates to "change the wallpaper"
Or minimvs - "you're my official boyfriend, not the lover I'm hiding" (something like that, I don't remember the exact translation). Art - "you're my boyfriend in the daylight, not some secret romance"
Well, there are many such moments

(My personal opinion, I don't hate translators, etc.)
Fania
Fania
01 Dec 22:18 #
Well, then. All the good things in this episode are over. Then there will be too much tin and glass. Fortunately, we have a week for moral preparation.…


It was beautifully shot. It's just fascinating....
It's a pity that it's written even better.
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