@SlepoiZadrot: It's strange why she didn't try to escape and just agreed with the prediction. Not in her nature, maybe she knew that everything could be changed🤷🏻♀️
There are no words to describe the admiration and delight of the series, the family reunions and the season as a whole came out very dynamic, it was incredibly interesting to watch all this, I hope season 3 will not fail and its release will not be delayed.
People who had just arrived at the bunker and were going to settle there: 🗿🗿🗿
The season turned out to be quite good, completely different, not like the first one, but still it didn't feel like you were watching another series. Unfortunately, there wasn't a single episode even close to the level of episode 7 of the first season, but I hope the third season will give us something like that. Well, #sinatrazhivi #janezhivi
@Lyosh108: and it was the cliffhanger that was missing for me, which was more specific with the last frames about what this computer had in mind for itself in the future/past. Go save everyone, it's too generic. And do I understand correctly that they want to roll back everything at a time when a global catastrophe has not yet occurred? But it's not man-made, but natural, like, what can be changed there? Or did I forget something from the first season about the reasons?
Great! It wasn't like this all season, but I've been thrilled with the last 3 episodes! I wish Sinatra had survived, but it seems to me that she was overcome by her grief and found her peace in the end. Looking forward to the new season
Я оставлю тут ссылку на интервью с Фогельманом (создателем), надеюсь, не удалят https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/tv/story/2026-03-30/paradise-season-2-finale-creator-dan-fogelman-on-sinatra-whats-in-store-for-season-3
And I didn't like the season. Everything has descended into the most "easy" cliche for screenwriters, namely "time travel". Now you can build up anything. I don't think they had any such plans when they created the first season. Once again, the characters "die and are resurrected." First Sinatra, now Jane. It devalues the tension in the series. The first season was distinctive. That's why I'm disappointed, I've already searched by inertia.
We need to review the beginning of the series. I stupidly do not remember the scale and features of the disaster. A worldwide flood? A volcanic eruption? But here the woman survived stupidly in the museum building relatively easily and simply. The settlers who delivered her. Everyone who is not lazy rides motorcycles, cars and even trains. Well, 10,000 (ten thousand) people easily and naturally, instead of "restarting" some town in the warm, fertile south, plowing the land with tractors, launching a hydroelectric power plant on the Mississippi, boarded 2,000 (two thousand) cars and drove across half the country to storm an underground bunker... WHY?!
@Krasnogvardeets: Why restore something when it's already ready, typical Americans come and pick it up, even though it's not yours, I'm not talking about some super computer that a schoolboy came up with, but he also asked for a nuclear reactor.
Well, what kind of time travel, seriously?! What are we waiting for season 3 in the spirit of 12 monkeys, who will fly back and forth and try to prevent a global catastrophe? Or we could just end on a good note, the family reunited, humanity survived, a happy ending.
@sahana: humanity did NOT survive. The scientist who predicted the first eruption also said that there would be a second wave of cataclysm, after the ash winter, the planet would begin to overheat, the oceans would evaporate, and the Earth would become like Venus. No bunker is going to help here.
I hope they'll bring Annie back next season.She had such potential, great interaction with Dylan, but they took it away.I want the main character to be not only Xavier, but also Dylan.
This is the final, of course, powerful, I would even say explosive) The whole mountain was demolished along with its bunker, eh. How much happened there, and what led to it in the end. Well, in which case it is really extremely difficult to cope with reactors, Chernobyl will not let you lie.
So Alex is some kind of quantum computer, that's how it is. Well, I don't know what he can do to save everyone, but they'll probably cook something interesting for us in season 3. Maybe there really is some kind of rollback of time, or send someone to the past in the style of Terminator (naked / naked, hehe). Or even create some kind of parallel universe where there was no catastrophe. Here the flight of fancy is almost limitless.
But for now, Samantha-Sinatra is very sorry, for all her character traits, including as the leader of the bunker, she is not the worst person. And I also found a son, sort of. Was it really impossible to provide some kind of backup control from the outside to close the doors and not kill anyone? As far as I know, Yankees usually try to save their asses in every possible way. Many people should learn from them in this, and maybe in something else. Maybe next season she will be resurrected in some way, or there will be more flashbacks, but in principle, her finale here can be arranged and closed. It all turned out to be too epic with an explosion. At least Xavier managed to run out) Jane doesn't have to be returned, but it looks like nothing can be ruled out here)) Maybe we'll see someone else - Cal, Robinson, Annie, etc.
The series is just great, and the soundtrack is awesome. Both seasons were worth watching and waiting for. Hopefully, there will be a lot more to tell in season 3, in particular, details about the bunker in Denver, how many people are sitting there with this computer, etc. And where to put all this crowd from Paradise now, the question is of course very interesting. P.S. I would fuck Sinatra)))
There is a good chance that next season it will turn out that the first two seasons were just a dog's dream, aka a calculation of probabilities in a simulation.
Still, they're better at flashbacks. What's the point of a psychologist? It feels like we just signed a contract with Sarah Shahi and we need to use her somehow. The president's son, "because people need to know the truth," blew up a bunker full of people, resources, and technology. and he did not bear any responsibility. A lot of extra characters. There was a great opportunity to cut them all out, but alas.
This is the most ridiculous and mediocre series I've ever watched. It is impossible to believe a single second of what is happening on the screen. A soap melodrama for housewives for some reason pretending to be a post-apocalyptic thriller. As a result, cliches on cliches, zero study of the world, cardboard characters, boring narration, poor editing.
I really liked the series, but the ending was a little disappointing, the last episode was somehow more intrigued. As it is, I hope they will extend it, such series are not being filmed right now, it's interesting.
Yeah, you don't know how to stretch the series for another season - add time travel and parallel worlds that weren't supposed to be there in the first place.
The scriptwriters certainly outdid themselves. I seriously didn't expect them to be able to make the finale sillier than the first season. There was just the luckiest guy in the world. 3 dead degenerates destroyed a shelter for thousands of people. No one was protecting their nuclear reactor at all. There wasn't even a single grandfather who would sit and check the cameras sometimes. But my daughter got stuck in the elevator. Something is constantly exploding and the electronics are malfunctioning. Can you guess how gg will move around the building And again, these cliches, when gg does everything at the very last second, it's impossible to look at it anymore. Well, your series won't look any worse if the elevator doesn't fly into the pit the very next second, and gg doesn't run through the almost closed doors. Well, at least Samantha's death scene is normal. It's already a cliche, but nevertheless everything is adequately staged.
@shubkin: Yes, they built such a bunker, but they didn't take into account that you can just hit the oxygen pipe if it's a weak spot, so you have to guard it. What else surprised me, OK, the pipe was broken, but why do the doors open automatically, because there may be adverse conditions outside, radiation, etc. Well, it was possible for the scriptwriters to strain a little and figure out how to wrap it up more interesting here. But overall, I really like the series.
It's a very awesome series, like a mix of "shelter" and "pine trees." And the season did not end on a note of intrigue, as it was with the first season. It's really easy on the soul
At the beginning of the season, it seemed that they would go in the right direction, abandon the grunge in suburbia, and begin to survive in a world where it is almost impossible to survive.
Imagine my surprise when it turned out that the apocalypse for which the bunker was built had not happened. Most of humanity has died somewhere between the lines, but there is not a scratch on the world itself - transport drives, people grow food, everyone just goes in clothes a la post-apocalypse. If this is explained in the third season by the influence of quantum physics, then it will be somehow completely lazy.
And the last episode also stands out against the background of the season with its twisted feeling of "rewriting the script 10 times an hour before the handover." They threw all the ideas against the wall, maybe something would stick.
I still don't understand what the series wants to be. Everything he suggests has already been implemented much better in other projects. It's like a compilation of everything that's been on TV since Lost. Especially the second season took a lot from the Revolution.
P.S. For two seasons now, the idea has not left my mind that the original soundtrack owes its existence to the musical composition First Regret.
I thought until recently that there would be no 3 seasons. And if they had, it would have been a perfect series. But in the last few minutes, they still gave me a seed.
Why did they show that Jane wasn't dead? To have her in season 3?)
If you don't find fault too much, then season 2 came out quite well.
It's a good second season, much more dynamic than the first, even though it's not a "detective story about the assassination of the president" at all))) In fact, the series could have such a huge potential if this script had fallen into the hands of someone more ideological and probably rich. It would be possible to make a gaming throne with different clans formed after the disaster in different parts of the country (or continent/s), which begin to fight for resources, power, etc., and in parallel there would be a main storyline about a miracle bunker, which has a miracle computer that can control either nature or over time, spice it all up with the lost mysticism of the first seasons, and make the same ragged narrative in terms of timeline as it is now. And for 6-8 seasons. That would be great. The topic is really interesting, about the end of the world. And it turned out very well, but very crumpled, as a result of which many characters and their relationships look like cardboard, actions are not given a motivational component, and so on. Well, there's not enough depth right
I think we'll leave time travel to the new season "From the Outside" And turn to the "Constellation", namely: to several parallel realities. It seems to me that this Link is Dylan from another reality. That is, there he created his original quantum computer and, perhaps without achieving results there, moved to another world and met this scientist, who eventually helped create Alex. He probably doesn't have parents in that world anymore, because otherwise he would have recognized Sinatra as his mother when they met. And so, probably, in that world, Dylan is without parents (are they dead? I don't remember, did the scientist say anything about this?), but in this he died like Sinatra's son. Or maybe she had already traveled between worlds and saw that her son had survived in another reality and was waiting for him. But it's true, the reflections based on watching "Constellation" May even have shown different universes already this season. We'll find out, in general, in the new season.
@InFB: there are direct hints about the time. when Sinatra talks to the bearded man about the tragic fate of the Earth in the future, he, in response to the question of what is required, grunts and says: Time!, which is no longer there. And then she thinks (the camera shows)) And it's immediately said about Alex that she performs magic tricks over time.
@vayana: Logically, it's either a quantum leap and parallel realities, or time travel. Like, "slightly" different stories 😀🤷♀️ Alex, it seems, is not a time machine, but a quantum supercomputer. Well, that's what I understood.
In the finale, the clowning, of course, reached its peak. An army of homeless people on a World War II tank is storming the gates, which can withstand a nuclear explosion without any problems, a psychologist is commanding a bunker with some kind of fright and no one is against it. The entire bunker is supported by a single engineer, whom no one from the bunker management remembered all season, and no one but him is able to shut down the reactors, except, suddenly, those very bums. Sinatra, of course, can in no way give Xavier the key to the elevator, which her daughter Googled in a couple of minutes in the last episode without any problems. And the panels on the upper levels had been powered solely by atomic energy all this time, otherwise how could one explain that they all suddenly felt the urge to fall beautifully into the slow. What kind of extravaganza awaits us in the final season is now even scary to imagine.
It was exactly the same feeling after the first season. At the beginning, "oh, cool. I want more." You watch the season in one gulp and by the end it turns into a kaleidoscope of grunge. By the end, everything is literally bad, but epic and with a serious mine. The season was good during the viewing. After watching, there is only indignation. It's an interesting feeling. But it's convenient, with such an aftertaste, there is no longing for the new season.
A bunch of disgruntled rebels destroyed the bunker just like that. So that people "have a choice." Well, thanks for saying that. It burns me right from these fighters for all the good things. It also burns that NO ONE could stop them.
Why Sinatra died just like that is not clear at all. GG walked from the tower to the exit. She could have taken the car and driven to the exit. She went over herself so many times to save her family and the world, and trusted the unreliable to bring everything to an end.
The post-apocalypse is kind of light.
Alex didn't understand anything about anomalies\paradoxes\at all.
The psychopath was just cool for the whole season.
Discussion: Season 2, Episode 8 Join the Discussion
69‘cause it’s another day for
You and me in paradise…
Отличный финал. Каждый нашел и обрел то, что хотел.✌️
The season turned out to be quite good, completely different, not like the first one, but still it didn't feel like you were watching another series.
Unfortunately, there wasn't a single episode even close to the level of episode 7 of the first season, but I hope the third season will give us something like that.
Well, #sinatrazhivi #janezhivi
And do I understand correctly that they want to roll back everything at a time when a global catastrophe has not yet occurred? But it's not man-made, but natural, like, what can be changed there? Or did I forget something from the first season about the reasons?
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/tv/story/2026-03-30/paradise-season-2-finale-creator-dan-fogelman-on-sinatra-whats-in-store-for-season-3
Let's just say thank you that it's just a bunker, not the whole world :D
I don't think they had any such plans when they created the first season.
Once again, the characters "die and are resurrected." First Sinatra, now Jane. It devalues the tension in the series.
The first season was distinctive. That's why I'm disappointed, I've already searched by inertia.
I still don't understand if Dylan is Sinatra's son or not. 😅🧐
It looks like Agent Coulson from the Marvel series Agents of Shield, where in recent seasons there was something like his clone and he himself died.
I hope somehow, but it will be in season 3.
The same fact hints that Jane will do a lot more damage, that she will have to send a message about her birth to avoid the consequences)
But here the woman survived stupidly in the museum building relatively easily and simply. The settlers who delivered her. Everyone who is not lazy rides motorcycles, cars and even trains.
Well, 10,000 (ten thousand) people easily and naturally, instead of "restarting" some town in the warm, fertile south, plowing the land with tractors, launching a hydroelectric power plant on the Mississippi, boarded 2,000 (two thousand) cars and drove across half the country to storm an underground bunker... WHY?!
The whole mountain was demolished along with its bunker, eh. How much happened there, and what led to it in the end. Well, in which case it is really extremely difficult to cope with reactors, Chernobyl will not let you lie.
So Alex is some kind of quantum computer, that's how it is. Well, I don't know what he can do to save everyone, but they'll probably cook something interesting for us in season 3.
Maybe there really is some kind of rollback of time, or send someone to the past in the style of Terminator (naked / naked, hehe). Or even create some kind of parallel universe where there was no catastrophe. Here the flight of fancy is almost limitless.
But for now, Samantha-Sinatra is very sorry, for all her character traits, including as the leader of the bunker, she is not the worst person. And I also found a son, sort of.
Was it really impossible to provide some kind of backup control from the outside to close the doors and not kill anyone?
As far as I know, Yankees usually try to save their asses in every possible way. Many people should learn from them in this, and maybe in something else.
Maybe next season she will be resurrected in some way, or there will be more flashbacks, but in principle, her finale here can be arranged and closed. It all turned out to be too epic with an explosion. At least Xavier managed to run out)
Jane doesn't have to be returned, but it looks like nothing can be ruled out here)) Maybe we'll see someone else - Cal, Robinson, Annie, etc.
The series is just great, and the soundtrack is awesome. Both seasons were worth watching and waiting for.
Hopefully, there will be a lot more to tell in season 3, in particular, details about the bunker in Denver, how many people are sitting there with this computer, etc.
And where to put all this crowd from Paradise now, the question is of course very interesting.
P.S. I would fuck Sinatra)))
3 dead degenerates destroyed a shelter for thousands of people. No one was protecting their nuclear reactor at all. There wasn't even a single grandfather who would sit and check the cameras sometimes.
But my daughter got stuck in the elevator. Something is constantly exploding and the electronics are malfunctioning. Can you guess how gg will move around the building
And again, these cliches, when gg does everything at the very last second, it's impossible to look at it anymore. Well, your series won't look any worse if the elevator doesn't fly into the pit the very next second, and gg doesn't run through the almost closed doors.
Well, at least Samantha's death scene is normal. It's already a cliche, but nevertheless everything is adequately staged.
Life didn't prepare me for this.…
Imagine my surprise when it turned out that the apocalypse for which the bunker was built had not happened. Most of humanity has died somewhere between the lines, but there is not a scratch on the world itself - transport drives, people grow food, everyone just goes in clothes a la post-apocalypse. If this is explained in the third season by the influence of quantum physics, then it will be somehow completely lazy.
And the last episode also stands out against the background of the season with its twisted feeling of "rewriting the script 10 times an hour before the handover." They threw all the ideas against the wall, maybe something would stick.
I still don't understand what the series wants to be. Everything he suggests has already been implemented much better in other projects. It's like a compilation of everything that's been on TV since Lost. Especially the second season took a lot from the Revolution.
P.S. For two seasons now, the idea has not left my mind that the original soundtrack owes its existence to the musical composition First Regret.
But in the last few minutes, they still gave me a seed.
Why did they show that Jane wasn't dead? To have her in season 3?)
If you don't find fault too much, then season 2 came out quite well.
In fact, the series could have such a huge potential if this script had fallen into the hands of someone more ideological and probably rich. It would be possible to make a gaming throne with different clans formed after the disaster in different parts of the country (or continent/s), which begin to fight for resources, power, etc., and in parallel there would be a main storyline about a miracle bunker, which has a miracle computer that can control either nature or over time, spice it all up with the lost mysticism of the first seasons, and make the same ragged narrative in terms of timeline as it is now. And for 6-8 seasons. That would be great. The topic is really interesting, about the end of the world.
And it turned out very well, but very crumpled, as a result of which many characters and their relationships look like cardboard, actions are not given a motivational component, and so on. Well, there's not enough depth right
But it's true, the reflections based on watching "Constellation" May even have shown different universes already this season. We'll find out, in general, in the new season.
when Sinatra talks to the bearded man about the tragic fate of the Earth in the future, he, in response to the question of what is required, grunts and says: Time!, which is no longer there. And then she thinks (the camera shows))
And it's immediately said about Alex that she performs magic tricks over time.
You watch the season in one gulp and by the end it turns into a kaleidoscope of grunge.
By the end, everything is literally bad, but epic and with a serious mine.
The season was good during the viewing. After watching, there is only indignation.
It's an interesting feeling. But it's convenient, with such an aftertaste, there is no longing for the new season.
A bunch of disgruntled rebels destroyed the bunker just like that. So that people "have a choice." Well, thanks for saying that. It burns me right from these fighters for all the good things.
It also burns that NO ONE could stop them.
Why Sinatra died just like that is not clear at all. GG walked from the tower to the exit. She could have taken the car and driven to the exit. She went over herself so many times to save her family and the world, and trusted the unreliable to bring everything to an end.
The post-apocalypse is kind of light.
Alex didn't understand anything about anomalies\paradoxes\at all.
The psychopath was just cool for the whole season.