I really hope that the dentist will be severely punished, but the fact that the aunts arrange this behind the scenes, instead of publicly shaming and making it clear that he is the one who is wrong, and you can't do that, and not the victim's girls is absolute cowardice.
The girls did well, they plucked up the courage and told me. They did everything right and everything they could.… It's the system that's letting them down once again... they can't even comfort each other about it because they're being portrayed as aggressors instead of victims. At least Hannah also told Daisy, who understands all this, and she knows that this is 100% not Hannah's fault.
Daisy, who started her period in such a place... and in theory, she could be sent not only to get married, but also to the red center, becoming a maid. The pearls probably have even fewer rights than the girls from the "families". It was nice to see how Daisy's friendship with Shunammit was developing, and that Hannah had secretly given her the pads. And Shu's refusal to believe in how children are actually made was both funny and very sad.
I am so glad that these girls have Daisy, who helps them understand that their experiences are meaningful and real, and shows them that Gilead's beliefs are completely wrong. And how it warms the soul that even Gilead cannot destroy the sanctity of friendship.
It feels like Garth is very green for Mae Day, but we have what we have, at least it sounded like it: I want to destroy Gilead. Let's watch…
@KisJulVl: It's not for nothing that Hannah's father put in a take that her stepmother is looking for a maid, and Daisy will most likely be sent there.
@KisJulVl: >and in theory, she can be sent not only to get married, but also to the red center, making her a maid.
Well, no, it's not everyone who gets made maids, but fertile women who are "guilty" of something. And becoming a servant is an opportunity to atone for their "sins" and serve the new regime for the good. As long as no one knows that Daisy is a spy, no one will just make her a servant. It's just that for her to get married is the same as being stuck in Galadea forever. She will no longer be able to spy for Mayday, because she will be assigned to some low-status husband, and it will become even more difficult to take her back.
@KisJulVl: This is not cowardice. I'm not defending aunts, but you can understand them here. You take into account the conditions in which they live there. Well, the commander will refuse to marry the "disgraced one". And then where's the girl going? To the colony commander, where are the harmful industries? Of course, she won't work there, but it's like sending her to live in the Chernobyl zone. That's why they try to solve such issues on the sly.
@KisJulVl: The aunts need proof not to ruin the girls' lives and punish the dentist. This is solved quite elegantly in the book, and I think there will be some good solution here, too, especially since Hannah said after talking to her that she did not understand at the time that Aunt Lydia had told her that the dentist would be dealt with. they just understand that no one will believe a woman, especially a girl, either the accuser must be a man, or some kind of material evidence is needed. Yes, they didn't make it clear to the girls that they would figure it out, I think because they were afraid that the girls would talk. So no matter how we treat aunts, it's not cowardice here, but cold calculation.
A lesson in sexual education from Aunt Vidala - your husband will instruct, and you will obey! Well, yes, well, you don't need to know anything else...🤦
honestly, it's rotten and hopeless , and because you see that little girls have to get married and give birth, and because they can't (in most cases) choose a mate, and because of the dentist, and because it's classic, the victims blame themselves disgustingly Waiting for the most severe punishment for the dentist
It was unexpected that Garth's father was a commander, and his son loved him, but did not share his position . It was a rare mix of feelings, and admiring his father, but literally going against what he was doing. I would like to see some flashbacks about Garth and his family , as far as I understand, his father was respected, but why do they live in a small house, and the sons of commanders don't automatically become commanders too, hmm.. What motivated Garth to join the opposition in the first place? A lot of questions
I understand why Becca chose him, but at the same time, the gap between her and Agnes will only grow . If I wrote under the previous episode that I would like to see them collaborate, then everything turned out strangely. It turns out that she, in love with Agnes, knowing that Agnes loves Garth, chooses Garth . they may have some personal conversation ahead of them as husbands (herself), but so far it seems that Daisy will take (or even took) the place of Agnes' best friend (it is not yet clear what they have added to the fact that you cannot trust pearl virgins, as if their thoughts often do not find any development later anyway in the plot, but maybe Daisy will finally decide to stay in Gilead and do something) and in general, for the sake of this union, I started watching the series, but somehow I imagined Becky's moaning in a different way, someone even wrote about suicide, and here everything is so calm.
seeing Daisy say real things about sex, but Shu doesn't believe her, was the only bit funny in the series , but in the end, she's glad that Shu took her side (maybe for her own sake, so as not to be alone, but still), and now she has a sponsor for pads hd
It turns out that it was Brother Shu who June took out, if I understood correctly?
For some reason, I also hoped for Agnes' father, who seemed more sympathetic, but yes, the same as everyone else. 'I'm sorry for you, but we have to accept that you're so young, considering how difficult it is to have children.' Thank you, Dad , he didn't seem to speak much about Agnes' candidacy for her husband, but then we don't care, we're dancing
this future husband is still very good at playing the fact that Agnes has a choice (flowers, cake), but it seems that this is the only thing she will really choose, and then nothing good, given the background of the commander, will not wait for her.
and in general, I caught myself thinking (in close-ups at the end of ahaha) how I missed June , they mentioned her a little in conversation, but I want them to show at least a little bit what they are doing there in opposition, what they are cooking.
@MargoRose: The actor playing Garth said that episode 9 would be crazy , it's very interesting what's going to happen there , will there be weddings? Is something wrong with Mayday? dentist's punishment? I want some movement
@MargoRose: >as far as I understand, his father was respected, but why do they live in a small house, and the sons of commanders don't automatically become commanders too, hmm..
Maybe they lived richer and better off in Boston, but the city fell, and the commander got a disability - he was written off. They gave out some kind of house in the new city, not so bad, by the way, but all the main resources and power are with those who are now actively serving the new regime.
>so it was Brother Shu who was taken out by June, if I understood correctly?
Yes, that's right. It was necessary to insert the children from that plane somewhere. Although I was hoping that Daisy herself was one of those kids. But it's strange that they took the children so selectively. The younger brother was captured, but for some reason Shu herself was not. It is noteworthy that in Gilead it is called the "Night of Tears", and in the rest of the world the "Angel Flight". And for the former, this is a real tragedy, and for the latter, a heroic act and salvation.
@KateMilk: about selectively: I remember the film "one life" based on real events, where a man before the outbreak of World War II tried to take children to Britain to save them . There were also situations where, for example, one child in the family was taken out, but the other two were not , and the rescued woman who had just grown up remembered her brothers/sisters (I don't remember who exactly), whom I never met again (because they didn't survive the war)
that is, it's more about the fact that it's good that at least someone was helped , and also in the situation with Shu, apparently, for some reason they didn't take her (she was in the wrong place, wasn't on the list initially, or some other reason) and I think this case is not an isolated one.
I like that such details are not lost and continue to talk about them.
@MargoRose: what you write about has a place to be, of course. But in this case, I would like a little more information from Shu. As far as I remember, Martha's parents were then put to sleep and all the children who were there were taken away. Then the scriptwriters would have added a little remark about why Shu was left.
@KateMilk: I assumed, based on the book, that my brother didn't seem to be in (or I'd forgotten about him). In the original source, Shu boasted that unlike the others, she was her own daughter, but she was also terribly harmful. Perhaps this will be changed in the series, and the story with my brother will be explained differently. But in Marfa's "The Handmaid's Tale," only stolen children were definitely taken. If they had also taken their relatives, they would not have been much different from the leadership of Gilead.
@kadriel: It's not true, June didn't tell her anything about the plane or the flight the children were on. She told Daisy that her parents had taken her out of Gilead when she was a baby. Daisy is, plus or minus, the same age as Hannah-Agnes, who was no longer a baby at the time of the "angel flight", which means Daisy was older. So it doesn't add up. In addition, June mentioned that Daisy was taken to Mayday's foster parents Neil and Meloni, and Canada officially received the children from that flight at the airport.
@MargoRose: I think "don't trust" means that Daisy will do something like that with the dentist. Which will cause a lot of fuss. Which the commander's "daughter" would never have allowed.
@full_fusion: We need to start somewhere, but yes, it seems that with this pace of storytelling, there should be 10 more episodes in the season, and it's already over.
I hope Daisy doesn't get emotional and create some kind of game and she won't be sent to the red center.. I really want Agnes to be told who her mother is and what she did in Gilead, so that she remembers at least something about her and that her side wakes up in her (I don't know if there is such a thing in the book) I felt sorry for Hulda and Agnes too, but Hulda is just a baby. (I hope for a public castration of the dentist or something like that) in general, I really like it, the tension remains for me) the only annoying thing is that the series is released in one episode.
It's kind of suspicious that this Penny looks so bad and that it's not just about losing a child. So far, there are two candidates for the role of Commander bluebeard. It seems that Commander Judd is suitable, and the one who is Agnes' future husband, given his past with domestic violence in the dossier. Both, by the way, create a very pleasant impression in public, playing the roles of well-mannered, respectable husbands.
Father Agens seemed adequate to Olya for a second, but then he started talking about the need for early childbearing and the need to rely on science when he himself creates a world in which everyone lives according to God's laws and believes that pregnancy will come only to those girls who follow His laws... It's all an abomination.
But the moment when Agnes became emboldened and gave, albeit a trifling rebuff to the "mother" with these flowers is fire)) Although I do not approve of all that action, but Agnes is marrying one of the most influential commanders and Paul Mackenzie should behave more modestly 😂😂😂
@an_khv: It seemed to me in this scene that Agnes might like being an influential commander. It would be elegant in its own way if a second Serena were molded from her in some way - the girl has all the prerequisites. And what a blow it would be for June.
As I understand it, Daisy will soon do something that Agnes won't like very much. 😁
These are the evil creators, the narrative barely stretches, but it's still so beautifully and extensively shot that you'll watch many seasons, even at this pace.
@lady_kana: Are they really both going to get married? I can't believe it for some reason. It's like everything can go wrong at the last moment, and maybe they'll go down the path like in the book.
The whole episode was heart-wrenching from total hopelessness. I really like the way it was shot and the way the script is written. Special thanks for the narration behind the scenes from Hannah. And it feels like the truth is Hannah, the daughter of June, not the daughter of Gilead!
It seems to me that Garth's paralyzed father did not just break a glass when he saw Agnes, if he was injured fighting the resistance and he may know that she is June's daughter and thus expressed his slight displeasure (although it may be a coincidence that Garth and Daisy talked)
@Liza: He didn't fight on the battlefield, Garth said he was poisoned, but June and Mayday were poisoned by the commanders in the brothels, that's all his battles.
What a pity for Hulda. I haven't gotten married yet, but I've already been through this shit.
At least in terms of choosing colors, Agnes opposed her mother, otherwise it was impossible at all. She chose a man for her, a cake, and here she doesn't even let the bride choose flowers. I'm just in a fucking situation with the dentist. Perhaps the aunts believed Hulda, but without proof they would not have done anything and would have framed themselves. It's a disgusting situation.
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46The girls did well, they plucked up the courage and told me. They did everything right and everything they could.… It's the system that's letting them down once again... they can't even comfort each other about it because they're being portrayed as aggressors instead of victims.
At least Hannah also told Daisy, who understands all this, and she knows that this is 100% not Hannah's fault.
Daisy, who started her period in such a place... and in theory, she could be sent not only to get married, but also to the red center, becoming a maid. The pearls probably have even fewer rights than the girls from the "families".
It was nice to see how Daisy's friendship with Shunammit was developing, and that Hannah had secretly given her the pads.
And Shu's refusal to believe in how children are actually made was both funny and very sad.
I am so glad that these girls have Daisy, who helps them understand that their experiences are meaningful and real, and shows them that Gilead's beliefs are completely wrong. And how it warms the soul that even Gilead cannot destroy the sanctity of friendship.
It feels like Garth is very green for Mae Day, but we have what we have, at least it sounded like it: I want to destroy Gilead. Let's watch…
>and in theory, she can be sent not only to get married, but also to the red center, making her a maid.
Well, no, it's not everyone who gets made maids, but fertile women who are "guilty" of something. And becoming a servant is an opportunity to atone for their "sins" and serve the new regime for the good. As long as no one knows that Daisy is a spy, no one will just make her a servant. It's just that for her to get married is the same as being stuck in Galadea forever. She will no longer be able to spy for Mayday, because she will be assigned to some low-status husband, and it will become even more difficult to take her back.
I'm not defending aunts, but you can understand them here.
You take into account the conditions in which they live there.
Well, the commander will refuse to marry the "disgraced one".
And then where's the girl going?
To the colony commander, where are the harmful industries?
Of course, she won't work there, but it's like sending her to live in the Chernobyl zone.
That's why they try to solve such issues on the sly.
Poor Agnes, how hard it is for her to get over Becky and Garth's engagement, and now she wonders what Daisy will do.
Well, yes, well, you don't need to know anything else...🤦
, and because you see that little girls have to get married and give birth, and because they can't (in most cases) choose a mate, and because of the dentist, and because it's classic, the victims blame themselves
disgustingly Waiting for the most severe punishment for the dentist
It was unexpected that Garth's father was a commander, and his son loved him, but did not share his position
. It
was a rare mix of feelings, and admiring his father, but literally going against what he was doing.
I would like to see some flashbacks about Garth and his family
, as far as I understand, his father was respected, but why do they live in a small house, and the sons of commanders don't automatically become commanders too, hmm..
What motivated Garth to join the opposition in the first place? A lot of questions
I understand why Becca chose him, but at the same time, the gap between her and Agnes will only grow
. If I wrote under the previous episode that I would like to see them collaborate, then everything turned out strangely. It turns
out that she, in love with Agnes, knowing that Agnes loves Garth, chooses Garth
. they may have some personal conversation ahead of them as husbands (herself), but so far it seems that Daisy will take (or even took) the place of Agnes' best friend (it is not yet clear what they have added to the fact that you cannot trust pearl virgins, as if their thoughts often do not find any development later anyway in the plot, but maybe Daisy will finally decide to stay in Gilead and do something)
and in general, for the sake of this union, I started watching the series, but somehow I imagined Becky's moaning
in a different way, someone even wrote about suicide, and here everything is so calm.
seeing Daisy say real things about sex, but Shu doesn't believe her, was the only bit funny in the series
, but in the end, she's glad that Shu took her side (maybe for her own sake, so as not to be alone, but still), and now she has a sponsor for pads hd
It turns out that it was Brother Shu who June took out, if I understood correctly?
For some reason, I also hoped for Agnes' father, who seemed more sympathetic, but yes, the same as everyone else.
'I'm sorry for you, but we have to accept that you're so young, considering how difficult it is to have children.' Thank you, Dad
, he didn't seem to speak much about Agnes' candidacy for her husband, but then we don't care, we're dancing
this future husband is still very good at playing the fact that Agnes has a choice (flowers, cake), but it seems that this is the only thing she will really choose, and then nothing good, given the background of the commander, will not wait for her.
and in general, I caught myself thinking (in close-ups at the end of ahaha) how I missed June
, they mentioned her a little in conversation, but I want them to show at least a little
bit what they are doing there in opposition, what they are cooking.
, it's very interesting what's going to happen there
, will there be weddings? Is something wrong with Mayday? dentist's punishment? I want some movement
>as far as I understand, his father was respected, but why do they live in a small house, and the sons of commanders don't automatically become commanders too, hmm..
Maybe they lived richer and better off in Boston, but the city fell, and the commander got a disability - he was written off. They gave out some kind of house in the new city, not so bad, by the way, but all the main resources and power are with those who are now actively serving the new regime.
>so it was Brother Shu who was taken out by June, if I understood correctly?
Yes, that's right. It was necessary to insert the children from that plane somewhere. Although I was hoping that Daisy herself was one of those kids. But it's strange that they took the children so selectively. The younger brother was captured, but for some reason Shu herself was not.
It is noteworthy that in Gilead it is called the "Night of Tears", and in the rest of the world the "Angel Flight". And for the former, this is a real tragedy, and for the latter, a heroic act and salvation.
. There were also situations where, for example, one child in the family was taken out, but the other two were not
, and the rescued woman who had just grown up remembered her brothers/sisters (I don't remember who exactly), whom I never met again (because they didn't survive the war)
that is, it's more about the fact that it's good that at least someone was helped
, and also in the situation with Shu, apparently, for some reason they didn't take her (she was in the wrong place, wasn't on the list initially, or some other reason)
and I think this case is not an isolated one.
I like that such details are not lost
and continue to talk about them.
But in Marfa's "The Handmaid's Tale," only stolen children were definitely taken. If they had also taken their relatives, they would not have been much different from the leadership of Gilead.
Which will cause a lot of fuss.
Which the commander's "daughter" would never have allowed.
I really want Agnes to be told who her mother is and what she did in Gilead, so that she remembers at least something about her and that her side wakes up in her (I don't know if there is such a thing in the book)
I felt sorry for Hulda and Agnes too, but Hulda is just a baby. (I hope for a public castration of the dentist or something like that)
in general, I really like it, the tension remains for me) the only annoying thing is that the series is released in one episode.
It's all an abomination.
But the moment when Agnes became emboldened and gave, albeit a trifling rebuff to the "mother" with these flowers is fire)) Although I do not approve of all that action, but Agnes is marrying one of the most influential commanders and Paul Mackenzie should behave more modestly 😂😂😂
These are the evil creators, the narrative barely stretches, but it's still so beautifully and extensively shot that you'll watch many seasons, even at this pace.
Oh, dear, there are many discoveries waiting for you.
All these cute little cream victims of the dentist, I hope the aunts will come up with something 🤨🤔
Special thanks for the narration behind the scenes from Hannah. And it feels like the truth is Hannah, the daughter of June, not the daughter of Gilead!
At least in terms of choosing colors, Agnes opposed her mother, otherwise it was impossible at all. She chose a man for her, a cake, and here she doesn't even let the bride choose flowers.
I'm just in a fucking situation with the dentist.
Perhaps the aunts believed Hulda, but without proof they would not have done anything and would have framed themselves. It's a disgusting situation.