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Discussion: Season 2, Episode 5 Join the Discussion
98"but I'M NOT."
What I like about born again is that it's impossible to predict the scenario. as a result, Vanessa technically (still) not dead, but the witness is dead (but I was already convinced about the second one when I remembered the moment from the trailer "saw or shovel?", which was just shown here. still, I wonder what choice Daniel will make and whether he'll come to his senses at all, or not anymore...) and when I was reviewing the third season just yesterday, I thought I was doing it just for fun, but okay... guys, who felt sorry for Vanessa under the last episode? Have you forgotten how she ordered Nadim's murder? and no matter what anyone said, the atmosphere of the old days was perfectly conveyed, as if I hadn't noticed anything. lighting is my favorite) I also asked myself, theoretically, what kind of love does Fisk have for the British? Wesley, Felix, Buck—so it turns out Buck is Wesley's man.
I don't know, but the church in this series is definitely my favorite location. these stained glass windows, the same lighting, lines about morality and Bullseye's being in it as the complete opposite, Murdoch's understanding of life... and the hand he gave Dex as a second chance, as a meaning, a continuation of everything his best friend believed in. I'm very glad that at least on the screen, on For a while, Sorvi and Dex became friends. but of course I was amused by the moment: "little help?", and what Karen gives out: /sighs irritably/
what Karen is really thinking: HELLO KAREN :D
I liked the end of the episode, the white noise of the waves, I've never seen a kingpin so emotional in empathic terms. But nevertheless: Vanessa is dead, and another good deed has been done, which means:
— What are we celebrating?
— mercy.
Foggy is the most important superhero here :(
Otherwise, they paid homage to the original series. They saw Vanessa off, honored Foggy's memory, even remembered Wesley, and showed him his connection to Fisk's current chief assistant.
Perhaps it was worth making this series a separate special and releasing it simultaneously with the next one, where Jessica Jones will finally appear and the real mixing will begin, but it's bearable. The series should consist of more than just fights and shootouts.
@Paramelion:
Well, in vain
@Paramelion:
This is the stupidest thing I've read lately. Not only is the series good for itself, the cinematography, directing, acting, and choreography of the fights. After all, in the original series, Matt's formation as a hero, Fisk's appearance and his development as a villain, Fisk and Vanessa, Matt, Karen, and Foggy meet, the appearance of the Punisher, Elektra, and the Marked One.
Born Again does not work as a stand-alone series, if in the first season it was still trying to be on its own (and then at the expense of the original material before the reshoots), then the second season, as can now be seen, is the spiritual heir of the Netflix series. Therefore, for fas, this is a filler and a fan service, when, as in the original series, there was just the same atmosphere as in the flashbacks shown in the series, and this is great.
Legion and Shield Agents are on the same level, Loki and Moon Knight are from the new one (Wanda is also for me/I liked Vision and Agatha, but it's too subjective).
I didn't watch it at the time because it wasn't included in the main Marvel at that time, but after Daredevil, played by Cox, was introduced into the main canon, I was thinking of getting acquainted.
Wow, if Bibi uses Daniel so cruelly, then she's a bastard, he really has feelings for her, and she's only thinking about work (and the news about someone's health condition is not about social commentary, but about the profit from a quick news story).
It's an interesting flashback to Vanessa, even though she looks completely different from the Netflix series.
I get a kick out of Pointdexter and Matt's dialogues when they're not fighting.
An interesting flashback from Foggy!! What a contrast that Matt in the past didn't care if a convict was killed in prison or not, but now he's fighting for the life of the one who killed his best friend. Undoubtedly the influence of Foggy, who was the nicest character in the series. Foggy is a man with a big heart, who gave his savings to a law firm in order to give a friend a second chance, and thus, most likely, saved his life. By the way, it was super interesting to connect Buck and Wesley that they were fellow soldiers in Afghanistan. But I keep saying that Wesley has 1,000 times more charisma. It's interesting to watch Matt trying to save Pointdexter, Benjamin's monologue, and the whole church scene is awesome. The priest pretended that he didn't give it away (it's strange that DD didn't hear himself that the squad was coming), and Matt mentioned his mother (Sister Maggie). And yes, Pointdexter sincerely believes that he is a good guy and wants to atone for his sins, even in such a strange way.
Buck and Daniel are a good scene. It's cool, Daniel's reflection in the side mirror, you can feel his stress. I knew that he would force Daniel to bury someone, I even had a hunch that Bibi was there, but no, there was someone random.
Mr. Powell (head of tax force) - the actor plays cool here. He's very ordinary, like a simple cop, he doesn't have much screen time, but you just want to hate him, there's such an evil energy from him.
Karen's face at the end is priceless, because she also hates the Marked One. And I just realized that they were hanging out in the punisher's former hideout.
It was a brutal, emotional blow, stronger than if it had just been a splinter in the head and death in the ring. For some reason, I still don't feel sorry for Fisk, but the weight of this symbolism with the painting (rabbit in a snowstorm) is very beautiful. The story of Fisk and Vanessa began with her, and Matt later sprayed the same picture with Fisk's blood, and similarly, the red blood in the last episode spread over Vanessa's white dress. And now, in a flashback, Fisk is standing in front of her in a black suit, as if in mourning.
The series is incredible. The Netflix series is catching up with emotions. And this is despite the fact that there was not a single fight.
It seems that the show runners have finally started to understand what's what from the second season. And the feeling of fillery from waiting a whole week for the continuation, and I already want to see Jessica as soon as possible)
The scenes between Matt and Dex are the only thing interesting to watch. Well, and Daniel, although not as intense as they probably intended.
And I had no complaints about any of the previous episodes this season. Everything was fascinating to watch, and the third one was generally holding my ass.
Well, in general, I hate it when they prolong the death of a character.
It's very nice to see how the creators tried not only to please the old viewer with flashbacks with Foggy, but also recreated that very picture. The color sensor, the screen format, except that the operator's job is completely different, but these are small things. It was nice to return to that atmosphere at least once more.
Definitely the best episode of born again, which does not try to compensate for a weak scenario with action and visuals. I hope the series can still surprise you this season.
In fact, both Cox and Donofrio quietly starred in the original version of bornagen before all this creative overload and even looked into the neighboring marvelslop with D+. And they also sang the praises of the series, saying that reboot instead of continuing was the right decision. Then suddenly it turned out that they were taking off their full hat, oops. ...As a result, the footage of the reboot was almost entirely included in the first season anyway.
>and by the way, despite your anti - xenophobic comment
??? It sounds like a twitterbrain
>and the journalists consider the best TV series of the same mc from Disney
Just look at the Reception section of the corresponding Wikipedia article. I'm just a messenger.
And speaking of keeping the characters alive, please save the Marked One, otherwise who else is there to admire besides him and Buck (Daredevil doesn't count)
The flashbacks are right in place, I like that they are shot in the format like in the old TV series. Foggy and Matt are such a great duo, I really miss Foggy. Wilson was pleased, and Fisk was talking about bitcoin in a funny way.
Well, it's funny to read comments about filler, some people don't even understand the meaning of the word, but you need to apply it, like "oh, there was no action in the series =filler"
"Let's kill Vanessa!"
- Come on! And then how to finish the next episode?
"Let's kill Vanessa again!"
Vanessa died — we've already seen it, Fisk's emotions have already been seen, it looks like a second time, and that's somehow ridiculous.
Matt saved the Marked One — we also saw this at the end of the last episode, it's unclear why this is being presented again as some kind of unexpected twist.
Even the way Bibi uses Daniel, and he suspects her, was also seen in the previous episode. There's a sense of deja vu from all this.
Why there was a flashback with Foggy is not very clear. Matt's mercy has already been chewed over a hundred times, I'm tired of it. I would have been more surprised and delighted if he had left the villain to die for once. But alas, everything here is banal and predictable.
And the outcome of the flashback is unclear — did Foggy's friend manage to escape or did Buck kill him anyway.
It has already been shown so many times that excessive mercy is boring. I wish Matt had already gotten angry and killed at least one enemy, or at least let him die, instead of squeezing this mercy out of himself over and over again.
if you read comics, I think you'll want to go crazy in the second arc. there's 44 years of hacking with Fisk there (spoiler alert, he's already come to recognize himself as a god there (ironically, as in this season, too, Vanessa said that he wants to conquer all the worlds, and he asked "how many?”) after he came to know faith through Murdoch) and nothing, as they say, is normal. It's the same with the marked one. when I want someone to kill someone, I watch or read the punisher, and when I watch Daredevil, my expectations are different) just logic
Dario Skardapein shared with the Hollywood Reporter what will be shown in the third season of the series.:
"We're finishing the Mayor Fisk arc in season two, as this storyline is already heading towards its inevitable end. What we're going to do next is kind of return to the era of Frank Miller comics. It was fun playing in the world of politics, but I prefer something a little more street-based. . . Yes, I think "Land of Shadows" will do."
At the same time, it is also reported that Vincent D'Onofrio will still be present for the third season, according to an interview with Wilson Bettel.
As for Land of Shadows, it is a Marvel comics crossover series focused entirely on street heroes. The plot tells how Daredevil, having led the ninja clan "Ruka", becomes possessed by a demon nicknamed "The Beast", establishes cruel rules in Hell's Kitchen and comes into conflict with other heroes.
Also, according to unconfirmed rumors, at the end of the second season, Daredevil will go to the bunks with Fisk.
But the series is clearly worse than the last one, it's just that the whole series is my favorite dialogues, but for the record they were more interesting than in previous episodes, as well as moments from the past with Foggy, I was very glad to see him again, even the picture was made as dim and dark as in the Netflix series.
I really hope that the finale doesn't disappoint for all these listened dialogues, something truly interesting and cool awaits at the end.
And then there's the smiling Foggy)
I don't know why ...)
all the footage from the netfilkas was shot in the old style for those who have already forgotten.
But, apparently, the most relish will be only in the last one.
It's nice to go back to the past, like even the cameras and the color sensor are the same. It was good to see Foggy and Wesley.
The only complaint is a strange moment in the church. Matt was like, "Okay, I tried, but it didn't work out (" (which is not like him at all), then he remembered Foggy and so on... BUT NO, I SHOULDN'T HAVE DONE it, and everything turned out right there! So what has changed - did you initially decide in vain that it would not work, or DID YOU OVERCOME it? What were the pangs of choice?
Otherwise, it's a pleasant episode with a touch of nostalgia, maybe a filler, but the original series was full of fillers (there were 13 episodes in the season), so I don't see anything particularly scary about it.
@kate_archer: At first, I often grumbled at the screen, but by the second season I just accepted the fact that "Born Again" is now like this.
Very touched
There is such tenderness and love between Fisk and Vanessa, which at times overshadows the relationship between Matt and Karen. * By the way, how did they end up together in the first place, and most importantly, why?*
The creators' obsession with parallels is starting to confuse me. It is strange to watch alternately the love story of the Fiskes, then nostalgia for the first cases of Murdoch and Nelson (although it is always nice to see Foggy). The passage of the Marked One and Daredevil is a repeat of the Punisher and Daredevil (or that Russian from the first season and Daredevil), only more faded. Is Benjamin on medication again, since he began to distribute such uncharacteristic wisdom? I imagined something like "Leave me to die, like those burned people in the dock." * Also suits Frank better, but it's getting close.*
And I'm still concerned about the focus of the plot on Fisk's inner circle rather than Matt's struggle with him. * Yes, yes, yes. This Daniel is already like my own. Can I look at Karen now? How's Kristen? Angela?*
And yes, I'm waiting for Jess.
The Punisher and Jessica🥲
Although the series is a filler in fact, but the filler is good and not particularly annoying.
Then they divided it into two
And still, you have a filler in each of the seasons.
Um
Do I understand the principles of the scriptwriters of this series correctly?
A cool transformation into a sweet man in love, Fisk has never shown himself like this.
So what if Dex and Matt are going to be best brothers now?)