Something makes me want to start sad again, even though I couldn't stop smiling most of the time.
When the New Year's Eve dinner started, I already felt a little uneasy. Every joke has an expiration date, and at some point it stops being harmless. Chusan's game with a fictional girl has just reached this dangerous border
What was intended as an easy way to arouse jealousy may at some point lead to completely different thoughts than you expected. It looks like that's exactly what happened to Lucy.
When he is alone and looking at the fireworks, he goes into his thoughts, I can hear the echoes of Dr. He and Jie'fei's casual conversation about the future of Chusan, about love, family and grandchildren.
All this feels so right, calm and natural that it becomes almost painfully obvious that there is simply no place for Xia Liushi in this picture of the world.
At this point, it's no longer about jealousy. Rather, it is a clash with the understanding of one's own position. There is a feeling that this story has a limit.
Dr. Hae's expectations are very clear, he wants a normal and safe life for his son. Chusan has received a good education, is building a career outside Honglong, and the logical continuation of this path is a family, children, and a future in which everything is stable and predictable.
The clearer this scenario becomes, the more its incompatibility with reality is felt.
He's not just a man from the wrong circle, he's part of a world that doesn't leave without consequences. It's a world in which it's impossible to promise even tomorrow, let alone the future for someone else.
Chusan should be watching his children grow up, not watching Lui point a gun at his forehead in a shabby diner.
Liu Yi can't even guarantee Chusan his own life. The idea that, being a part of the criminal world, one day you can just close this chapter and leave without paying the price sounds more like an illusion.
Even if Liu understands his feelings and admits that Chusan is more than a friend to him, it will not remove the main feeling that he is not able to give him the life he deserves.
Here comes another layer related to gratitude. This connection with Dr. He makes the situation even more difficult, because it's not just about other people's expectations, but about the people he owes. To destroy their vision of the future of Chusan is to allow themselves the level of selfishness that Liu needs to be prepared for.
And I do not even know what is more difficult in such a situation: to admit your feelings or to neglect the dreams of those who are dear to you.
And I really enjoyed watching Lucy in a state of confusion throughout the episode. It's interesting to see how his reaction gradually changes, as he wanders through this maze of feelings and tries to find a direction in which to move on.
Judging by the context, they have been communicating for several years, and there is nothing accidental about this affection. Especially considering what Liu went through, the loss of his family, and the abrupt plunge into a new world where Chusan's family surrounded him with such a level of warmth, care, and home comfort that it's scary to lose.
In such a situation, jealousy of a friend, of his attention, does not look like something out of the ordinary. It is much more difficult to understand that there is something more behind it, especially if you have never encountered such a depth of feelings before.
I like that the plot goes exactly this way and gives Lucy time. It echoes life very accurately. True, life is not a drama where you can be sure that the other person will figure himself out and everything will end right.
Sometimes understanding comes too late, afterward. When you encounter similar feelings in the right, socially acceptable context and suddenly realize that what happened before went far beyond friendship.
And we can only live with the fact that it was never said.
Fortunately, Lui and Chusan are characters in a fictional story, and they still have a chance not to bring it to the point of no return.
P.S. the creators of this drama are the real masters of cliffhangers... and that's how I live for a whole week now.
And anyway, I really like Yang Chao's acting in this scene.
Yes, actually, I admired him throughout the series. What catches my eye the most is how he works with facial expressions and looks β this is the level of skill that I particularly appreciate.
@HaiLouYin: Well, that's how you do it, huh??. I kind of looked the same way, but I didn't think so deeply about Lucy. Jealousy-yes, misunderstanding / non-acceptance of your feelings -yes!!! But it didn't even occur to me that at that very moment he was living Chu San's life for several years ahead. For me, everything stupid about Jealousy mostly rested on this scene....
@innsight: Huh, maybe when I first started reading the comments here, I suspected her of working as a translator for Libertas and she has a text describing the feelings of each character))) because otherwise the outflow????
@vera24: yes, I somehow connected with this scene. At first, it was the general tension of talking about grandchildren and family... all relatives are the same, and then I just started watching Lucy and his reaction.
@innsight: I wish I still had a connection with the brain.
Cool episode! Great attempts to engage...sport πΊ
Finally, they remembered about the inspector and explained that this arrogant guy got to him NOT only for blackmail, but also to avenge the dead guy, now their line is fighting with the novel.
By the way, this Jason is very, very high time for Lucy to be jealous. π But is it really the norm for rather closed Asians, well, at least for office workers to so easily interfere in the personal affairs of a colleague? Jason just met Chu San, immediately picks up the phone instead of him, asks him head-on, "Did your girlfriend call? " A friend...Are you sure he's just a friend?
Dong Dong is a beauty in every way. And this "escort girl"/virgin is also so pretty. How can you be gay in Asia?! Such girls are basque all around π And how can you be straight there))? These guys are cute all around πΈ Being BI there is an option))
Xia Liushi is so far from catching up on a personal level that there is no other option left for Chu San except to clamp him against the wall))
@Ayana85: but I'm still gay)))) I never really like girls. But sometimes I find myself thinking that damn it, why wasn't I born gay Thai, I would have them all there!!!!
Sorry...But I don'T believe in straight people, and I don't believe in gays either. Consciously, a person may be convinced of their orientation, but what is there in the subconscious...One meeting can change everything...
I believe that the main thing is that a person should be good and sincere...β£οΈ The rest is nuances)) as that guy from "There are only girls in jazz" said when he found out that he had fallen in love with a "woman" who is actually a man in disguise)) "Everyone has their own flaws..." π€£πΊ It didn'T affect my feelings.
This is logical if you believe in the reincarnation of the soul...β€οΈβπ₯ But I do. We were in different bodies and with different partners and somewhere deep this experience left its mark.
@Ayana85: that's where I really, really agree with you) above, I'm just trying to joke))) I also believe that people love a person, not a gender identity, and in real life I have several such pairs of acquaintances, who lived with their husband, who with his wife in a regular gender union,and then one fateful meeting and everything.
@Ayana85: I share your opinion too. In modern approaches, sexual orientation has increasingly been viewed as a spectrum where different degrees and variations of attraction are possible. And not a rigid division into categories: either one or the other
So the stories about "everything changes after one meeting" fit perfectly into this view. People's experiences can be more flexible and ambiguous.
Yes, that day has come! I registered to leave a comment.
This is too, too gorgeous a series, vibes of the 11th episode of Avenged Love flashed through my head when watching, technologies for conquering an unyielding bun who still does not realize her feelings are so technologicalπ To bring everything to the point where Xia Liushi is afraid that the dear and only Chu San is about to be taken away and needs to take a step is so easy.π₯Ή I even thought the melody in the scene in the ward (49:18 approximately) was quite similar to the melody from episode 11 of OL (night kiss), just an observation.
It was amazing. But to end the series at such a moment is TOO cruel. She sat for 5 minutes staring at the screen with round eyes.
Thank you to dear friend Xia Liushi for her contribution to speeding up and developing the relationship between the two buns. A true friend, her motives are noble and we are happy. I adore such heroines who actively participate in the life of gg
The multitude of funny scenes, the subtle acting just brought me to tears, the gorgeous facial expressions of the actors, accents, looks, just shine.
I just admire Chu San - well, nothing will stop him on his way to his favorite bun - all sorts of little things like making a leg move in the ward, pouring soup is just a nice addition. Tattooing is practically heavy artillery, the last strawπ
Dear Xia Liushi, you should not raise the supports on the hospital bed in an attempt to defend yourself - they will get you anyway!
@HaiLouYin: Oh, and I'm dying, how it suits his caramel bun, this shade of green. I thought he was fine in burgundy, but in this shade of green, there are seven of you holding me! And let me quote a quote from one of the episodes.: "What is China doing to us")))))))))
@HaiLouYin: Let me cut in, Xia Liu Yi is so charming when he's sick. I'm glad to see He Chu San, I readΒ by body language, if I understand it correctly, of course.
@dib_exo: Daa Liui reacts to the presence of Chusan with her whole appearance. I'm definitely glad to see him, he was swinging his leg so sweetly while he was eating the soup. π₯Ή And he was still trying to keep a straight face . π
@innsight: I also get a little lost over time. Qi-ge's friend said that Xia Liushi has been taking revenge for her brother's murder in recent years. It means that a couple of years have already passed, but I didn't catch any clear markets like in to my shore, for example.
@innsight: And yes, Cui Dong is still exploring this topic. As far as I remember, she had a girlfriend, but I didn't catch where she went after that. And having such a person by your side is good luck. He will be able to guide and support.
@HaiLouYin: In general, if you think about it, graduation in China is most often celebrated after Children's Day. That is, it could have been a year between Chu San's graduation and Children's Day.
@vera24: then it turns out that they met in April, then stopped communicating for two months after the death of Lucy's brother and sister. In June, Chusan's graduation was celebrated, and he went to work. A year later is Lucy's birthday, and now it's New Year's Eve in February... so two years have passed.
@vera24: When they met doesn't really matter. But it's just that after the death of my brother and sister, I thought it hadn't been more than a year. And now it turns out it's been a year or even two...
@HaiLouYin: But after they met, they also made a movie. They didn't seem to spend more than a month on it, though. So let's say they shot a movie in April. May and June did not communicate. There was a graduation in July.
@HaiLouYin: After all, it's true that Cui Dong Dong is a godsend, words of support are difficult for her, she shows more by her actions than she can, there is a desire to give Xia Liu And a quiet life, on the side of He Chu San completely.
And, perhaps, the only one from Lucy's entourage who really understands how hard it was for him to lose his sister and brother. And now he has a chance to find a normal life again, and this opportunity should not be missed.
And she got a good look at Chusan, too. He sees that he is actually not such an innocent and quiet student as others look at him. And I think she understands that Chusan will be able to take care of Lucy.
Well, visually, the scene of Cui Dongdong and Chusan's conversation is beautifully done. The moment Cui Dongdong receives an answer from him that he is serious about Liu Yi, she appears in the reflection behind his back. She believes that he is telling the truth and is ready to support him. Even though she and Chusan come from different worlds, she is on his side in the matter of Lucy's happiness.
@HaiLouYin: I support you, it's great to work with the frame here, to convey emotions when necessary, to identify relationships, voice acting is probably also important, or not only it, to follow what is happening in the background, to catch the details, the clothes are the same, such things sometimes say more than the main plan.
@innsight: I love these cuts when the frame changes dramatically. Despite the trash of what Fan did, I was laughing so hard from the moment: I want to sleep with this dirty pervert, bang!! Get it and sign up
@vera24: I have sent a request to the universe: you will receive it with all the consequences... That was the beginning of all Fan Xiao's lies and suffering.
A reliable friend, of course. I organized everything quickly. Although, maybe they didn't really ask for it, it was just an outburst of jealousy.
But Lu Guangming arrived, and it was so satisfying
I don't know what's in this guy's head, but he's not trustworthy. And he will stop at nothing to achieve his goals.
At the same time, the flashback makes it clear that there are unresolved issues between him and Xie Jiahua. As far as I understand, Inspector Xie had a loved one, for whose death Lu Guangming blames him.
It's hard to understand what exactly connects these three, but I just hope that Lu Guangming is unscrupulous enough to be guided only by a thirst for revenge.
I understand that Lucy doesn't just play billiards and hang out at the club. He's a fucking crime boss. But looking at how he and his guys behave with ordinary people on the other side of the criminal world, I involuntarily begin to perceive them as the same people with their own complicated stories, and my moral compass simply refuses to work properly.
So I would like Lu Guangming to sort out his old accounts with Xie Jiahua without involving Liu Yi in it. Moreover, he doesn't seem to care about justice.
And I really hope that everything will turn out well. But Xia Liushi had already hit Lu Guangming with a fist in advance... and he obviously wouldn't just swallow it.
It's a pity that Lu Guangming and Xie Jiahua have to follow the rules and not have a good old-fashioned fight. But what can you do if the law is not written for Xia Liui π€·πΌβοΈ
@vera24: In general, extending your left hand is disrespectful. But, you can always look like a fool, saying that you are left-handed or you just have your right hand occupied with a heavy daddy.
@innsight: @vera24: Yes, there is clearly a disparaging signal here. Then Lu Guangming also switched to English. It was as if he had deliberately built a distance, demonstrating his status and "I am a foreigner and above these rules." An ordinary person might have swallowed such a provocation, but not our jealous gangster π
So Lu Guangming, in general, got down to business ... it was no big deal to measure pussy with the most formidable guy in the area. Hitting people is not good, but this one was just asking for it.
@HaiLouYin: I agree, perhaps, violence is not an option, but condemning Xia Liu does not work, Lu Gua Ming was asking for it, they were planning something bad, Xia Liu felt it right away. There would have been another moment here, after a blow that Xia Liu restrained himself And in front of He Chu San, did not swing as before.
@dib_exo: And I have one ππΌβοΈ Now Liushi can no longer afford impulsive actions towards Chusan. One look at his confused face is enough to pull himself together.
@HaiLouYin: I found an amazing comment on YouTube. I'm thinking here about the scene when Liu Yi got angry and punched Guangming in the face. FINALLY PRINCESS MOMMY INTO BLACK CAT MODE????
@innsight: This scene just killed me π« I took special pleasure in making this gif And our peach lover is even more thrilled ... such a view in front of him, and you can also stare into the open π I think his testosterone was off the charts at that moment. π
@HaiLouYin: I'll write one fact from the novel, not a spoiler))) just an interesting nuance. According to the book, Chu San has a Hindu appearance, and when he gets angry, Lui calls him that: damn little Hindu) And here, Lui looks like an Indian, so I think the creators were joking, or they were changed in the process)))
@innsight: it's understandable) I just thought they might have come to the casting for the role of another, and in the process, the creators saw that they were more suited to each other's roles. Well, or I'm thinking too much))) Just a coincidence.
@vera24: Yes, I would also like to know the details of how they were recruited for the roles. But it is unlikely that anyone will share this information online.
@innsight: Damn, it's cool that they played it that way with the characters' looks. It's not exactly canon, but it's still a reference to the novel. Here, of course, you will no longer find out what logic the casting director was guided by, but with BL projects, the choice of actors is limited, to put it mildly. And tell me, without spoilers, is the plot of the novel very different from the drama?
@HaiLouYin: in general, they follow the novel quite closely, the chronology jumps a little, and of course there's a lot missing, the plot is broader, but the timing is not rubbery) they're not shooting Santa Barbara after all))). Chu San is perfect, he's one-on-one like in a novel. Also, his strength of character is revealed gradually. I'm reading, and even the actor's image doesn't fade, it's a perfect hit. Dundun is the same - the fury is crazy) the others differ to varying degrees.
So you can call it like this - @name in the text and the person will see it? And I thought that in order for a person to see the message, it is necessary to write a response to his comment and only this way it turns out to provoke a conversation. Or you can do it without a comment, just put a @ sign in front of the nickname . Well, I'll try @vera24. Vera, did you get this message from me?))
@vera24: Well, China knows how to film novels normally. I hope they will continue to take them on. I really want to read it already... the story has been on my list for a couple of years now. When I saw the casting announcement, I decided to wait for the drama first. But considering that there are only two episodes left (which I'm already starting to panic about), there's no point in dragging it out any further. Anyway, the whole plot of the novel won't fit here, and the second seasons of Chinese dramas are still an oasis in the desert. π
It's a pity that the production only pulled nine episodes. But I'm glad that the drama has strongly attracted an international audience... it couldn't have been any other way. And if the response is good and there are investors, maybe there will still be a chance to continue π€π»
@HaiLouYin: Actually, it was from China that my acquaintance with this genre began, YouTube stubbornly wanted me to watch avenged love. Apparently, at that time it was so popular (already) that YouTube's algorithms didn't want to leave me alone. After two weeks, I gave up, I think I'll take a look. Well, it's fucked up!!! 4 episodes flew by unnoticed. Fortunately, episode 5 was released the next day, at least I didn't go crazy. That's how I got here, safely getting into online shopping right away. If the first one was Thailand, it's not a fact that I would be hooked.
Therefore, I stubbornly avoid Japanese projects, as I understand that they are not inferior to China. I'm afraid that otherwise I will be sent to compulsory treatment for addiction. π As for the novel, you know how I struggle with myself not to write to you girls every three minutes and not force you to go and read. She's gorgeous!!!! I like that they don't overload the brain with information, all the scenes are dosed, you don't get tired of them. There is a lot of humor, the characters are revealed so subtly that I feel myself inside them. Definitely need to read. The only thing is that at some point there are a lot of NTS and very detailed ones, but will this moment come π€π€ I'm a grated roll, and I blushed while I was reading)
I was brought to the world of BL by the legendary anime "Wedge of Love". I'm a fan of anime in general, and somehow I accidentally got from Sailor Moon to yaoi anime)) After watching it, I started looking for the translation of ranobe, which was used to make "The Wedge of Love". That's how I got on the Ficbook and found out that in addition to translating primary sources, there are also fanfiction. And almost immediately I got into my own thrash "fanfiction" there π First, I met a crazy psychiatrist from Canada, a Puppeteer, and then an unforgettable Anechka π€£πΌ And I myself have already become the heroine of her poems and fanfiction.
Then I realized from fanfiction that many are written based on Asian BL series. And I started looking for them and looking at them. I think my first Asian BL is probably my "Favorite Enemy." A novel and a movie are radically different, heaven and earth. Well, then came "Heroin," "A trip to love back and forth."..
And so I've watched full-length gay movies about "white people" before, of course. "Brokeback Mountain", "Snake Skin", etc. Well, the European BL "Bare wire" that impressed me the most.
@Ayana85: Thrash fanfiction))) I also only look at Asia, I used to work as a carpenter on Korean detective dramas, and now my brain refuses to perceive European faces)
@vera24: I'm going to start my hurdy-gurdy again, but I just can't, I can't control the bread slicer.π« β¨ China is an unmistakable vibe. He has such a powerful aura that it's impossible to resist.
I think you had the perfect start, and I also think it might not have worked out that way with Thailand. β¨For example, it took me a while to get used to them. And now they're having a hard time again... it's all China's fault.β¨He came back and reminded me how to shoot. Now I'm waiting for new projects.
And you've caught the wave of China's second coming.β¨They started all this mess about ten years ago and literally blew up international viewers with the drama Addicted. Even on wiki, you can find an article about it β it was really an international phenomenon that led to the fact that the PRC had to hastily change censorship laws.β¨But even so, Chinese bromances, as a way out of the situation, are a separate kind of art. π€πΌ
And Revenged Love is based on a novel by the same author. So then Mommy and Daddy just came back again. I had no doubt at all that the drama would shoot and everyone would go crazy.β¨Even at the casting stage, the olds were already on pins and needlesβ¨It was hard to believe in this return. Yes, and with a remake of the novel, which China also hacked down at the time, and literally half of the plot came out there and the drama was taken off the air. And here's a remake π€€ β¨However, there was a real risk that revenged love would simply be shut down. Fully Chinese production is a risk. Therefore, now Tien Xiuning and Ziyu are not shining anywhere together, so that they don't get caught up in the PRC. Are the guys still building a career in China? β¨They can't even communicate openly in real life, let alone stream together.
And Children's Day is a very popular novel. She is adored not only in China, but all over the world.β¨I'm still afraid to wake up and find out that everything that's happening is my schizophrenic dream. π₯Ί I never imagined that after ten years of waiting, such a gift was waiting for me.
As for Japanese dramas, they also have their own charm, and they come second to me. I used them to eat up the suffering when China shackled the hands of its bl creators. So if you start watching here, there really is a chance to get bogged down even more. π But I don't regret anything.
@HaiLouYin: just today I watched a video of the guys fighting back against fans with phones. (I'll write the names from the dramas, the Chinese ones are still hard for me to remember) Da bao, Fan and Shulan and our kittens. Phones are being shoved in my face, and people have absolutely no tact. Fan is as handsome as a god when he's angry. That in the drama, that in life they behave like tramples, they protect their halves, it looks very cool.
@vera24: Chinese fans are tough. Not all of them, of course, but there are some that are so beaten down that it's scary to look at. I often skip such videos right away... my heart just breaks.
Sometimes it looks like a person could just be literally crushed. The same Ziyu (Da Bao) They almost brought him to tears. Until he had proper security, he couldn't move around at the airport at all. And Xiunin also got no less, I saw footage from the cabin of the plane, where a crowd is hanging over him, and it's just terrible.
Therefore, I am very glad that the actors from this drama and from to my shore can appear together in public. At least this way we can protect each other from crazy fans.
@HaiLouYin: After reading the article about Addicted, the thought came, because "HaiLuoYin" Gu Hai + Bai Lo Yin, it turns out, a combination of names, if I catch it correctly.
@dib_exo: Yes, that's right. If you combine the hieroglyphs of their names, you get "heroin" And Hai Luo Yin is just the Latin transliteration of this word.
@HaiLouYin: I don't even know how many times I've watched Heroin, and even without the amnesia, I felt a thrill like the first time. Stay with me, apparently, awaits the same fate. So far, I've only reviewed it once. Well, in general, it's very pleasant to review one of your favorite dramas once every 2-3 years.
@HaiLouYin: When you watch it again and you know that there is no normal end, you somehow easily tune in just to relive the pleasant moments with the guys.
@innsight: I agree, when you initially know that the story is ending, there is no longer the same disappointment as the first time and you can just enjoy watching.
And if you look at it that way, the drama was stopped very well, because there would have been just the tiniest beginning, and so we stopped on a pleasant note when everything was still good.
I also have addicted on my list of projects that I review periodically. And I get goosebumps every time from the opening credits.
@HaiLouYin: When I watched it for the first time, I was worried that the end was cut short. But even at that time, or approximately, they also showed a very beautiful lacorn Dark Blue and Moonlight. Even though they were completely different from Heroin, the ending killed me the same way.
So what? Time has passed, and I've come to terms with it. And now I'm happy to review it.
Now we've talked and I want to turn on their bedtime conversations again, these heroin addicts.
@innsight: Well, yes, everything happens, and over time you just start to rejoice that this story exists at all and you can return to it when you get bored. The fact that there is no way to reach the finals does not affect its quality in any way.
I felt bad at the moment when you're waiting for a new episode, and then you find out that's it. For a while, you live by rumors that there is still a chance, and then everything subsides, and only an unpleasant aftertaste remains. And now there are no such emotions, just the thrill of watching.
Dark Blue and Moonlight is a great thing You reminded me, and the first thought is that we should reconsider. Something suddenly pulled me into the past... I rarely have such a desire.
@HaiLouYin: In the past, if I had the idea to reconsider something, then I disavowed my desires. Why review it when there's still a huge list of TV series that you can't review!?
And now, if my soul demands it, I give up, I go to watch it again.
@innsight: It seems like it's time for me to listen to my desires too. And I wonder how my perception has changed during this time, because you also catch new emotions when you look at it with a different look.
And considering that I've noticed stagnation now, it might be time to try the delights of re-watching.
By the way, I saw Sam in Wishing Upon the Shooting Stars and wondered how We Best Love came to me at the time. Maybe it's really time to go through your list and see what makes your heart skip a beat.
@HaiLouYin: Also, as soon as I saw him there, a scene from We Best Love popped up in my head, where Sam was singing a song in a bed in a medical room. Such fleeting memories encourage you to reconsider.
@HaiLouYin: My attentiveness failed me again, I made a typo, it was even awkward, I got the nickname wrong, I'm sorry, it didn't come out beautifully, it just caught my eye, suddenly it will be difficult to understand how to do it correctly (>_<)
@dib_exo: oh, who's going to read this chaotic set of letters β it looks like it's okay π I copied it myself without looking, I was too lazy to switch to Latin π but if it's important: HaiLouYin right
@HaiLouYin: If it continues in the same spirit, we will not be able to wait for new products... Am I right?? Was there something like this 10 years ago?
Actor #ZhanGxuan's photo was removed from the promotional post of a new Chinese drama in which he was supposed to participate. It has not yet been confirmed whether his scenes will be deleted, but the publication is already hinting at this.
Rumor has it: The Chinese government's new rules are to boycott BL actors (especially those with promotions/interactions after the BL drama), so if a BL actor appears in the drama (not BL), they will boycott him and delete scenes with the actor.π₯Ή #RevengedLove
@vera24: Unfortunately, no actor is immune from this. Filming in BL is both a quick rise and can be a lightning-fast fall at any second, and worse if it is also a public condemnation.
@innsight: I just also noticed that Xiuning and Ziyu don't really shine, but they don't get out of advertising, and the rest, for example, Desire, in fact, only stay on the wave of success. It's a shame, I didn't really understand before, and I kept waiting for more dramas with my favorite couples to come out, but then it turns out there's a chance that after the fame dies down, their careers may end in principle (((( Is there only hope for co-production with Ty? Isn't that what they're hiding behind? I read how they discussed here, they say, you never know what these ethnic Chinese are doing there) we have nothing to do with it)
@vera24: I'm not well informed on this topic, but from what I've heard, it's still a temporary measure, like even the new amendments to the law are only in name. But actors are severely restricted from participating in projects, whether it's TV series, commercials, or fan meetings. I don't know if the collaboration of actors with directors from other countries will help avoid this censorship, but what was forbidden in China was initially allowed to be broadcast in other countries in international online cinemas. Now, they promise to introduce strict control over international versions of well-known Chinese platforms.
@innsight: we don't lag behind much either) thanks at least we don't wear the same robe)) On the one hand, I understand that this is being done so that young minds are not led astray. But on the other hand, whoever is looking, he will find)) I won't go deep into this topic, but this imposition of my vision is terribly annoying!! Paid subscriptions, parental controls, and we adults will figure out for ourselves what to watch and read. Otherwise, we're all sitting here without YouTube and a cart - aha!!!
@vera24: Bulgakov, Pasternak and others were banned in the USSR, and then became classics, compulsory works in school. Well, most films before the 90s were banned. Here, too, most likely, it was not easy for Louis to get a licensed videotape of The Godfather. Censorship in China and the USSR in the 1980s had similar features. And now these films are also classics.
Of course, the comparison with BL is not very suitable here, in the USSR everything was tailored to the socialist ideology.
In general, I support censorship, if only to protect our children's eyes from unnecessary things. Except it really doesn't make sense. In our Internet world, children are better at googling than adults. Despite all the sanctions, they manage to use all the platforms when adults dance with tambourines.
@innsight: that's it!!I didn't get out of gay clubs in my youth))) My best friend was gay, and the number of times he was beaten up on the street because he didn't look like that, I can't count all my fingers. However, it was our life, we were so interested, we had underground parties and the like. Therefore, I know firsthand that if you really need it, then there will be a solution))))
@vera24: Sadly, this is a common practice, and you don't have to go far: the actor who played Chusan was recently completely cut from the upcoming drama and had his face replaced with a fake. And it wasn't because of the filming of "sammy's children's...", but because a video got online where he was standing with a guy and (oh, horror) he hugged him and straightened his hair... and immediately there were rumors about the actor's inappropriate behavior. As a result, the man was reprimanded and lost his role.
And this is the whole specifics of the system. The industry in China is quite tightly regulated: there are a number of standards and professional requirements for artists that they must meet in order to be eligible to work in China.
There is no wording in the spirit of a step to the left β execution, but in fact it all boils down to the fact that the content must correspond to the "correct" values, and the actors themselves must maintain the most impeccable public image. I no longer remember the exact wording from the regulatory framework, but in general terms, moral qualities and an "example for society" are separately emphasized there
In practice, it looks like this: if an actor has reputational problems, they can cut him out, replace him (now up to deepfake) or simply stop inviting him to projects. In extreme cases, a person actually gets into an unspoken ban: officially, of course, no one announces this, but the industry reads it, and projects with such an actor simply do not pass approval at the first stage.
The reason for the ban is usually not in the bl itself as such, but in a broader category β inconsistency with the "correct" values. So you can get a reprimand for any other behavior that looks immoral in the eyes of the public and the state.
Now the Chinese bl is supported by international distribution, without uploading it to Chinese streaming platforms. Plus, cooperation with other countries and regions (Taiwan, Thailand, Hong Kong) acts as a kind of safety cushion, and the main support is provided by gagaoolala, which takes over the broadcast. And so far the scheme is working, but how long it will last is an open question. After all, the actors are Chinese.
Although China cannot directly influence foreign platforms, it is quite possible to tighten the requirements for its actors. And if it is considered that filming in some projects or actions (for example, the same fan-mit in Thailand) spoil the image of China in the international arena, the rules of conduct for actors may become even stricter (although much stricter) And then the "we don't show this to the mainland" loophole may just collapse in a moment.
Plus, with the development of social networks, it only becomes easier to track the activities of actors, and the consequences for them come faster. The more business edits in the spirit of "they behave like a real couple" are forced, the higher the chance that new amendments to the conditional censorship law will not take long to wait. But the international audience is already going crazy, and the more intense the interest, the faster it is extinguished.
As was already the case with addicted: his success significantly fueled everyone and accelerated the process of tightening the screws. The drama did not directly cause it, but it became one of the triggers, after which the regulation began to strengthen faster.
So for now, we can only be happy with what we have, but be prepared that at some point we will have to say goodbye again. But even if it happens tomorrow, I am already grateful for these few projects that the brave guys were able to release. The main thing is that the actors and creators do not put themselves at unnecessary risk.
@vera24: The actors can only be counted on to reappear as an on-screen couple if it is a Thai production. Their BL works as a separate segment of the entertainment industry with a huge fanbase, and it's customary to record pairs and develop projects for them there. But there is no such practice in other countries. And the actors themselves don't always stay in the bl niche. They can just flash once and that's it.
And mainland China, as always, has its own special approach. It's not like BL projects, they even try not to repeat the cast of bromance if there was a noticeable chemistry between the actors. Therefore, it's definitely not worth waiting for joint projects with the same actors. Moreover, actors often deliberately distance themselves from each other if the audience actively ships them β this is already a matter of self-preservation. Any interaction between them is analyzed under a microscope, and netizens immediately attribute romantic overtones. This can lead to real career risks, which is why actors prefer not to cross paths at all: neither on set, nor at events, nor in their personal lives.
The addicted and the untamed castes are the most famous examples. After a sharp rise in popularity, the actors actually stopped public contacts. It's been many years, and they've never crossed paths... anywhere... as if they live in parallel universes.
Most likely, the same story awaits Xiunin and Ziyou. Unlike other BL actors, who shot mainly at an international audience, they gained a powerful fanbase in mainland China, which means that the attention to them is even tougher.
So the probability that they will cross paths again in projects (and even more so in bl) is almost zero. Simply because neither of them would want to become a risk factor for the other's career.
At the same time, the project gave them a strong start and an audience, but then everyone will go their own way. For them, bl is not a niche in which they will remain, but a springboard. Xiuning will develop as an actor and media personality, while Ziyu is initially focused more on a musical career, and the drama simply gave him the opportunity to make himself known to a wide audience.
In general, this is a common strategy: to use a successful project as a start and continue moving in different directions, be it cinema, music, modeling, business. Bl here is an opportunity that needs to be used wisely, not an endpoint.
For fans of bl, they will eventually disappear from the radar, but those who fell in love with the guys outside the genre will continue to maintain their popularity.
@vera24: By the way, watch addicted and then watch love after addiction.
Officially, the drama is presented as an independent project, but in terms of content it is the story of a minor couple from addicted. It's just that for the script, the original plot of the novel was slightly adjusted so as not to infringe on copyrights.
So the drama is not a canon of the addicted universe, but the creators have done everything possible to convey this particular vibe. Plus, they've put in a bunch of references that draw parallels between the two stories.
The characters are played by the same actors who played the supporting characters in addicted. Actually, they also invested in the production.
There is nothing grandiose in the drama.: it's low-budget and was broadcast on youtube, but even if you take away the nostalgic flair and the connection with addicted, the performance is quite decent.
@HaiLouYin: yeah..(Oh, the horror)!!! Thanks for the detailed explanation. So theoretically, and perhaps practically, #our fan of Persikov went to this project against the background of the inability to act in other projects ((( this is very, very sad. It turns out that when many guys go into this genre, they realize that this is probably their only project. I'm really indignant. I hope everyone will have a career no matter what!!!!
@HaiLouYin: I'll probably finish reading today, maybe I'll start watching tomorrow, at least the day after tomorrow. It's such a roller coaster, I periodically need time to put my thoughts and catch my breath.
@vera24: The peach lover was reprimanded after this drama aired. Although there was initially a rumor in the international fandom that it was cut because of Sammy's children... but I went on weibo and found out that there was a lot of hype around that video. Plus, there was a hotel somewhere nearby, and supposedly he came out of there... in short, some kind of absurdity Now everything seems to have subsided, but xs, where his career will turn next is in China π I hope that he will still be forgiven for the fact that he stood next to another man at the hotel.π Yang Chao (Liu Yi) was born in Hong Kong, so I hope that such jokes won't fall on his head. By the way, a peach lover said that he has Russian roots, about 1/8
In general, to put it decently, the trend is as sad as possible. And no improvements are expected. I'm always in awe that actors even agree to such roles. And sometimes it's not so much entertainment content as a social statement. People just want to show that two people's love is normal. It's very frustrating that someone in the 21st century has to pretend that they don't exist. This hits the community, which is already under constant pressure.
By the way, Love After Addiction has a storyline about gg's career, which quite clearly shows the consequences. And then there's The Sparkle in Your Eyes, which is also a Chinese project, where industry issues are also being raised. This is from the creators of the Blue Canvas of Youthful Days, who literally fought through censorship. And in The sparkle... they refer to this situation. And blue canvas... became the first Chinese project that gaga bought for retransmission after being banned on the mainland. Both dramas are cool, but it's not clean to relax, there's enough glass
In general, you can look at the list of China in my profile, I upload all projects from the mainland, both old and newer.
@vera24: Yeah, I also caught information about the tour, I'm sorry I won't be there. And I really hope that the release will be released. π€π»While there is a lull, but officially no one has canceled anything, so I'm holding on to the version that the postproduction was just delayed.
From the recent discussions that I've been checking out: fans were allegedly watching the shooting, leaking photos/videos with spoilers; there were complaints about harassment of the crew and actors (like sasan); and that it sometimes interfered with the process. Even to the point of disrupting scenes or emergency location changes. But what is actually there is not clear at all.
In any case, until the producer says, that's it, let's go, I'll believe that they'll show it to us anyway.
@vera24: Oh, you also decided to read a novel... it's strong. The plot there, in my opinion, is quite specific. I read it once and didn't want to repeat it. I have the same story with Counter Attack (Revenge Love): I read it once, after the first version of the drama was banned, just to find out how it would end. But version 2.0, which the author has already redesigned for the drama, is a great upgrade. I wouldn't mind if she turned this new reinterpreted version of the story into a novel. I would even buy it to support it with yuan
@HaiLouYin: is Hong Kong different from China in terms of censorship? It's good that there are some rebels who are not afraid. I also came across information that he has Russian roots. Apparently these dim eyes are our legacy))) I like to think so. π₯° Yeah, I'll take a look
@vera24: Yeah, Hong Kong is different from mainland China in terms of censorship. Formally, it lives by the principle of "one country, two systems," so it has its own laws and its own content regulation system.
At the same time, the censorship of mainland China does not directly apply to Hong Kong cinema, but in practice there is an impact: if the project is focused on the mainland market, it is already adjusted to Chinese requirements in order to obtain a rental certificate.
If the creators do not plan to enter the mainland market, they have more freedom, and then only the local censorship of Hong Kong is in effect, which is generally milder, but budgets there are usually lower, and the potential profit is less. So more often than not, these are more niche projects or independent films than some kind of large-scale production.
@HaiLouYin: Nooo, I swear to read in parallel with watching)) now the differences do not allow you to look calmly without constant ones: but in the novel it is differentπ«£
It looks like only we have read "Addicted" here)) I read not only the novel itself, but also several fanfiction books on them. Well, I watched the series itself - the first legendary Chinese version a couple of times, and some moments 6-7 times))
But, this is NOT a record for me... that's if I'm just willing to practice...And it's like going back a few years...
I'm turning on - "His Story" 1. "Possessed" 4 episodes of 20 minutes each. And from beginning to end, I can't count how many times I've actually watched it. It's a cool mini-series, but it's far FROM iconic. But I got it stuck on repeat)) By the way, I also haven't seen any more actors from there in BL, they probably also scattered over get projects.
@Ayana85: I think there's someone else who's been through this. π
From the HIStory cycle, I generally liked all the parts. Some are bigger, some are smaller. Except that the very first ones seem a little damp, and then it just went well. I remember that HIStory2: Right or Wrong was included last. For some reason, I put it off for a long time. And in the end, it was such a heartfelt story that I later criticized myself for being biased. β¨Maybe it's worth reviewing something from the cycle. I'm choosing what to cry about right now. I want to understand if nostalgia is working for me at all or if it's too early. I'm not a particularly sentimental person, and the plots are too firmly in my head. I wonder if this feeling will turn on or if I'll just get bored because I already know what's going to happen next.
Although I've reviewed the same Addicted a couple of times. Last year I turned it on just to find one moment, but in the end I watched it in its entirety and by the end I had already forgotten why I started at all. π It was the same story with Revenged Love: I was looking for a fragment for a gif and in the end I couldn't stop. So there are still some triggers that I'm responding to.
"His story is 1. Possessed", in order to consider it, you need to take a closer look... That is, you need to endure the first episode, which tells which main character was all fucked up, suffered shoals from troubles ... But then how they gave him a second chance... He kind of returned to the same circumstances, with the same appearance, but already different internally and he ignores the poor guy, and let's run after him π₯ And the closer to the finale, the more intense everything becomes, and the last shots of their reconciliation remind even "Addicted" of something in the heat of passion.
"Revenged Love" is great, but there are too many episodes to ever get a full-fledged review for me. Only if I watch individual episodes or watch shorts, how they filmed it and laughed all the time πΈ Extremely positive guys πΊ
But the short series "Counterattack" with the same plot, but filmed a few years before, I watched a couple of times. The actors have such faces there...)) like, What's going on?! I turn on to laugh))
@vera24: And I was looking for the children of Chusan to read, and I didn't find it. I came across a manga with pictures in English, and then, some kind of unfinished gallery. I read it To my shore. And there, from the text, you can cut yourself inscriptions in Thai on a T-shirt for the future. Well, just to be sure of the translation))
@HaiLouYin: Yes, for me, the BL genre is about how to be different. Just to shift the situation - one guy didn't fall in love with another, but with any other one that you couldn't decide on. Even if you dye your hair green in adulthood and get a short haircut. Because they will condemn, but what will they say, and so on. I get a lot of motivation from films of this genre, if I may say so. And our guys: I am doubly grateful to the peach lover and the black cat princess. They're so positive. I watch their streams on YouTube sometimes, as if they pour the elixir of life into me. How the actors want to give a standing ovation! And I would like to wish them a good career, projects, and, in general, that their lives turn out well. (Where is the universe yelling at?)
@Ayana85: I remember the plot of possessed , as well as the rest of the stories in this series. And I got this part right from the first episode, and I didn't have any problems getting into the story. Moreover, it's so short that you don't even notice how the episodes fly by.
The original Counter Attack is a bit raw, but funny, it's a pity that it was banned. I even wonder what they would have done in the second season. Although maybe it's for the best... suddenly there wouldn't have been enough budget for Addicted, but the Heroin shot better than the Attack. And the faces in Counter Attack, taking into account what is happening, should be like this: what's going on anyway? β the main question that the characters ask against the background of everything that happens in the plot
But it makes no sense for me to review such mini-projects. We need something more voluminous and deep, so that there is something to think about, you can even start the process of rethinking. And for easy entertainment, there are already a lot of things coming out and pulling something new to check out.
@sirynguy: and I'm attracted to the very concept of a person taking a bold step. He goes where he feels like himself. He becomes who he wants to be, not who others see him to be. And this is really motivating: no one can live your life for you, so why should others manage it?
So for me, every such project is more than just a love story. Especially if these are projects from Japan, Korea, and China, where a person's personal life still goes through the approval of society. And for the community, it is important not to feel like an empty place. And even if it's a fictional story, it can still be supportive and motivating.
So, one of the main cast members of the movie Your Name Engraved Herein starred in bl to support his sister, who found it difficult to accept her identity.
And I also hope that this experience will leave only pleasant memories for the actors and will be a good start towards their goals. It doesn't matter what kind of activity they want to associate their lives with. The main thing is to be happy. They really are so radiant that every new video with them is like a breath of fresh air. They have such a positive aura that it is impossible not to be influenced by it. And I'm grateful to them for spoiling us with streams.
That's exactly what I will need to either review or read the novel in order to rethink this "My understudy". I came across one that was already fully released and voiced, and I didn't have much time then, and I was shaking in places, I really wanted to find out the denouement, so I probably DIDN'T understand a lot.
I'm not even talking about the magic part, but about this Ming. First of all, I had seen him in "My dear Writer" before, there is such a milah, and here is such a dominant like. And also some kind of unfinished one, like Kelvin from "Yesterday".
So this Ming fell in love with the actor there when he saw him first from behind in a scene from behind with a naked one. Then it turned out that his understudy was Joe. Well, in general, in front of this actor, this Ming was running on his hind legs, he was afraid to breathe on him.
But he clung to the understudy, and so rudely, like a dominant, obey me! And I interfered with his work and kidnapped him, well, you know, 100% of you watched.
And then, when I thought he was dead, I met him in another body and DIDN'T recognize him, and I got to him in this body, thinking that this was another guy altogether. Then I just realized and it was like domination again.
Some kind of loving Ming pissed me off. And he loved that actor, and he fell in love with the understudy, and then he didn't recognize him in his new body, and he fell in love again, thinking that it was someone else altogether.
And in the end, like, you're the only love in my life! Because I fell in love with your bare back, then in the frame, but I DIDN't know that it was yours and for a long time I ran after the actor you were dubbing.
They're talking nonsense... it turns out that Ming fell in love with three different men in a short time.
In front of the actor, he lay down straight, looked in love. Joe openly bullied his understudy, never took him face to face, ruined his career, etc. And he simply dominated the same understudy in another body, bribing him with money and dictating his own rules again. And it took me a long time to realize that this was Joe, and I was happy to mess with him, thinking that the other one just looked like him.
And then we have to forget all this and forgive him, because he already refused the family's money because of Joe. And anyway, he loved him from the first shot, as soon as he saw his back.
@Ayana85: Watching ongoinglakorn is already adding a star to him. These longings and expectations ignite interest in history. @HaiLouYin and I watched ongoing, emotions were over the edge. I remember laughing that it was The Untamed in a shortened modern version.
Well, yes, Thais are not the first lakorn to shoot about such a strange love. But I love My stand-in. Although many, of course, condemn Ming. For me, Tong is more unhealthy on the brain there than Ming. In general, Ming's unhealthy behaviors are caused by a number of reasons, I can't call him a 100% abuser here. As a result, there was a rethinking of his views, correction, and redemption. Except Tong wasn't punished, and he didn't even apologize. But besides the main characters' relationships, I liked all the secondary ones. The relationship with my mother, though not my native, with colleagues, with the director. It caused a storm of warm feelings in me that I was reviewing the drama because of these moments.
@innsight: Ahah yes, Wei Wuxian and Lan Zhan β the toxic version π And it's for this opportunity to relive history without haste that I love ongoings. There is time to get stuck in emotions and digest each episode, rather than jumping right on. Well, bombing in the comments is a special pleasure .
By the way, because of you, I rewatched We Best Love to refresh my memory of the scene in the infirmary, and damn, what a great story... directing and acting - kissing hands There are so many details in the frame that the knowledge of the plot fades into the background, it's such a pleasure just to stick to the visual I also forgot that Shiu switched to Japanese periodically, and it's so damn cute.π₯°
@Ayana85: Ooo, kink Ming on the back was tearing up the comments π
At that time, I was unable to find an emotional connection with this story. More precisely, by the end, I had lost it, and I didn't feel any special emotions at the exit. In general, this is the same trope when a guy first messes up, and then begs for forgiveness, and here it's important for me to feel the growth of the character, but I still haven't connected with Ming.
However, I agree with @innsight that Ming has a development against Tong's background and an arc of redemption is laid. I may not have had enough, but we did our best with him. While that semi-finished product was like a horseradish, it remained so to the end.
So everything is learned in comparison. π And Phim from the Wicked Game and Kelvin from Yesterday have already pushed Ming in my personal rating of characters who have not been able to reach my heart. So maybe now I really could look at this story with different eyes.
But I'll be waiting for China. We recently announced a casting for the film adaptation of My Stand-In, so if fate smiles on us, then this story will be chewed up again, but from the original source. They came up with it themselves, let them explain what its charm is.π
@HaiLouYin: Yes, that's right - everything is learned in comparison. But hopefully we won't see any more record holders for unhealthy relationships. Let Yesterday and Wicked game stay at the top. I don't know which of them is in the first place and which is in the second. Well, to complete the pedestal, you can add Love Syndrome to the third place.
In general, I love such relationships, they spark interest. But I would like them to be brought to the end of Lakorn, if not to redemption, then at least to moral completeness.
Phim from the "Evil Game" also agrees with the idiot in many ways, but he, like Kelvin, has a very significant advantage, so to speak - they are turned only on their favorites. Although Phim almost got involved with his former investor, but this is for work)) And so we fell in love and that's it.
And Ming, in a very short time, could be said to have been infatuated with three different men, clearly not a lover, and you couldn't even blame him for that, because of his nature. Well, okay, he was before... and Joe was in a new body, when Ming DIDN'T recognize him, he appeared in that body after Joe's death. And Ming was happy to hook up with him, occasionally grieving for his former favorite. To all the significant disadvantages of Ming, the fact that he is a walker is added.
Yes, well, they are in general)) We have Xia Liui here, he's so serious)) He only looks at Chu San. πΊ
@innsight: Yes, Love Syndrome complements this picture perfectly... especially the movie You can't beat that standard of toxicity and violence.
I'm always more drawn towards ambiguous dynamics. If the creators have tried their best, then, as a rule, the characters are more deeply worked out, and the motivation, and the connection between them. And it really piques interest. Apparently, I always want to go there, which is not enough in life. π
And I agree that with such stories it is necessary to go to the finals correctly, so that in the end there would be a sense of completeness, and not just: well, together, so together.
@innsight: Yeah...π«£ I couldn't stop thinking that I remember how they got there, I remember eating noodles, but when Sam sang there... I just had a white spot. π And I have never regretted that I threw sleep out of my schedule for the sake of revision.
When I started, the first thought that came to mind: So that's why I fell in love with Taiwanese TV series. Such a simple story, but so much soul in it.
And I was especially looking forward to the scene on the bridge. I was curious if she would lose her emotional intensity... and no, not at all. I was just as delighted from start to finish. And even the anticipation of this moment was rather pleasing, because I already knew that it was going to be very, very cool.
@Ayana85: This is a fairly common phenomenon in relationship psychology. I've come across people in my life who didn't fall in love with a person, but, how should I put it, with associations. For example, if a man's first love was a blonde with a square, then subsequent relationships were only with blondes with a square. There are also men among my friends who have always dated women with the same name. It's a kind of memory of a pleasant past. Well, Ming also has pleasant memories of his back, which, of course, prevented him from building a healthy relationship.
The most important thing that prevented Ming from building a healthy relationship was his egocentrism. Joe was kidnapped then, and he got a once-in-a-lifetime career chance. The coolest producer was waiting to meet Joe and left in a rage. And Ming-So what? I'll get you into another movie for cheating. That is, he doesn'T realize at all how much I am suppressing another person, a young man who wants to achieve something himself in this life.
And there is such a thing about the recurring type and names. For example, my cousin had a lot of Tans in his life and still has them, and they're all blondies π
Oh well, I'm NOT from the category of fixated)) If anyone has a variety of tastes, it's me. πΈπΊ
@vera24: Oh, you never know what a man pays attention to in the first minutes of dating. Of course, he may look at your inner world later, but initially it's always some kind of external features.
@Ayana85: and I have))) The most important thing for me is to rattle the dice louder, I'm ready to discuss the rest. π€£π€£π€£ Pond is the perfect male figure for me. And for women, I don't know if anyone watched how I met your mother, but Robin has a great action figure)))
@innsight: Are you sure you want to know?)) Come on, when we finish episode 9, I'll write it down, maybe they'll beat it somehow. I definitely won't forget, even if you don't ask, I'll write))))
I like it better)) to have something to hold on to... Asians are a harsh exception to my tastes, they are almost all thin. But, I say, I have a variety of tastes))
But ideally, they like it better. Of the bl actors, Viera (Fort) has nothing like a figurine. There's also the bl "Knockout" about boxing, where the main character's opponent has an amazing figure.
Well, if we talk about girls, Anechka Semyonovich is the standard figure for me. πΈπΊ I already went to her concert, it's even better in real life. ππ Well, it was then, now she's gone.
@Ayana85: So we won't fightπ€£π€£ Fort is the standard of kissers for me)) No one kisses like that for me. There was a time when I wanted to ask Google how to explain to my husband that Fort will now live with us, and okay, Googl2: how to explain to my husband that before he leaves for work, he will have to kiss Fort first, otherwise I will be sad all day.
@Ayana85: are you sure she's lost her mind, she has a husband now, I periodically come across their "diet", it seems to me that she still has "everything with her")))
There are a lot of good kissers in bl)) But for some reason, I remember being particularly impressed by the feature film, "Cornered Mouse Dreams of cheese..."
That's where I remember the first two kisses very much. The guy has been in love with someone else for 8 years, and then he got a chance to almost blackmail his way. It was so realistic, the straight guy already wrinkled up all over, but then he got involved))
But in the first bl, except for "Heroin," of course, or "His story..." in the rest of the early bl, kissing is just pain... Even in one of my favorites, "Love by Chance 2," you can't look at their attempts without tears.
@innsight: @vera24: As soon as I saw him, my first thought was to bring you this news right away... I can't keep everything to myself. I expected them to make at least some kind of announcement during the tour... But to get the trailer right away.
@innsight: I heard that there was some kind of music in the trailer, but there was so much shouting in the audience that I don't even know what it was. π€£ Well, what kind of figure do you have? I'm a nymph
@Ayana85: Well I do not know. I didn't work as an operator. I don't know much about cameras. But when I met pop and movie stars in Moscow, they look much smaller than on TV. More compact, everyone has smaller shoulders than on the screen.
Well, maybe many people turn out to be shorter than expected. The camera and the stage equalize everything.
And in real life, you're watching the same Neletto in the "Lyubimka" video, he probably took a 150 cm girl, so what a tall jock against her background. And in real life, I was at his concerts 4 times and when he went through the fence but walked next to me and looked at everyone like that in the eyes. So he's 170 cm tall, too, maybe a little over 173 cm. He walked eye to eye, he's as tall as me.
Men often turn out to be smaller than expected, more compact. But the faces are wider than on camera. And the girls are getting fatter in real life, kind of vague.
Well, except for Yulka Chicherina, she turned out to be much taller and thinner than I thought. I think she's probably taller than 175 cm.
But we also see them once in real life at a certain period. Maybe we didn't sleep all night, we drove, we even drank juice and got swollen. And for the clips, they lose weight in a special way, they are made up there.
And then you look at a round pug in real life and compare it with clips where there are clear facial features. And it seems that in real life they are not even that thicker, but kind of swollen, swollen. And on camera, they're taut and clear.
@vera24: By some miracle, I found a novel. I read it a lot. And I think that the script for the film was written just brilliantly based on this novel. And the 8th episode is becoming more and more intriguing...
@sirynguy: Have you read it right now??? And how? I flooded the neighbors))) yes, they are very close to the novel, just some pieces are cut out, but what remains is very close. If I do read it, I'll have to get together and discuss it as agreed. I am glad that you did this, because I received tremendous pleasure from the storm of various emotions. I'll challenge you to a dead lakorn, do you mind? I need to check the dates there, because where I read, the editor was thoroughly blown away at the end, and there was a complete confusion.
@innsight: maybe it's better not to) it's better to discuss it separately somewhere. Suddenly there will be a second one. What if they're like Sherochka and Masha for a reason now, maybe they're filming something already))
I've finished reading!!! If you decide to read too, prepare a full set of sedatives by the end of the book!!! I just couldn't cry, I was crying out loud. And now I'm writing and crying.
@innsight: There's HEH, but it's just tough that way. @HaiLouYin: You like closing arches, so there's an arch the size of the Chinese wall. After what I've been through, I'm even ready to forgive Calvin for everything.
@vera24: The main thing is that we don't get cut off in the middle. If they can't make the second season, then at least let them logically finish the first one.
@innsight: They didn't even show us half of the plot, in theory they could probably loop it, but there's so much going on. I Googled so much that now I know everything about the crisis in Hong Kong related to the events of 97, and I had to close the holes in crime, now I even know what futures are!!! Although I've barely heard that word twice in my life.
@HaiLouYin: and I decided to start heroin next week, because I have the opportunity to swallow it in one gulp, I'm afraid I won't survive two shocks in one week)
@innsight: oh, yes, the main thing here is not to lose, otherwise I will soon stop watching lacorns at all at this rate... all these dancing with a tambourine is tiring π«
It seems to me that any series where the four of us get together is doomed to such popularity. π
@vera24: ahah, let's catch up on the intrigue and let them look more closely
Try to find one besides this one. Of those that I commented on first, access to the humble and innocent "Cat for Cash" was blocked. And hot lacorns have been open for a long time. It is not clear by what criteria the series are sorted.
Well, as an experienced astrologer would say... this increases the influence of the planet Saturn...On society. This wise but harsh planet, its influence is most often to constrict, limit, and set up barriers. And now is the period of Saturn's very powerful influence all over the world.
I've just seen the news - today the UK passed a law on the "generation without smoking". From now on and forever, the sale of tobacco products to those born in 2008 and later is prohibited in their country. That is, no matter how old they are, no one in the country will sell them a pack of cigarettes in 5 years or 10 years. That's how they decided - those born since 2008 will NOT smoke. Young-looking people will be asked for passports in stores.
I've never tried smoking at all, I've never held a cigarette in my life. And, of course, I am against selling cigarettes to teenagers.
But when these are adults 18+ years old and they are suddenly banned from selling tobacco products in their country forever, no matter how old they are. Someone decided that starting in 2008, they don'T smoke what was born in our country, and that's it, and after 10 or 20 years they WON'T sell it. Well, that's putting pressure on a person.
If only someone had decided about my generation in the 1980s not to sell them (us) chocolates. And how would I live?!)) Always asking someone to buy near the store. Although everyone takes me for the generation of the 1990s, actually)) Maybe it would have been a ride.
I mean, soon even the most innocent lacorns and dramas will be blocked without VPN if there are just 2 guys in the main roles, even without bl, probably. There is a narrowing of personal boundaries...This is a global trend.
@vera24: There is a tab with news and there is a section with the most commented TV series and movies. But we are still far from any fans of American TV series. Although, who knows, we "might" surpass.
@Ayana85: I noticed that only Thai people block. They seem to be allowing access to Korea and China without VPN. But I have a normal vpn, I don't drive it back and forth, so I can't say for sure. If I were suddenly banned from selling chocolates, I would steal. I can't live without a chocolate bar.
@vera24: I couldn't eat chocolate for four years after the crown. It was agony. I just recently felt that wonderful feeling of sweetness in my mouth again)
@innsight: It tasted disgusting. Besides chocolate, I still couldn't eat berries or fruits. In general, the body has deprived itself of a lot of goodies) It's a pity that flour was not included in the number of hardships, otherwise she might have lost weight.
@Ayana85: Damn it, Yana!!!! With these chocolates))))) I've been walking around all morning and imagining how I'm whining at Pyaterochka: uncle, well, buy a chocolate bar.
Well, the uncle will buy it)) He won't take a chocolate bar or money)) Although it depends on which uncle...πΊ There are such people, someone would have bought something for them π€£
Anyway, Vera, don't forget to call me in the comments, if that series about the galaxy will be discussed here))
@vera24: Oh, I remember a time when cigarettes were sold piece by piece even to children. It cost about 2 rubles back then. There was zero control at all. If you also take imported ones, they won't even look at you at all, who buys there.
Vera, don't worry. I don't know how old anyone is here, but Yana and I will definitely sell chocolates. So we'll buy you some, sleep well.
@innsight: kaesh) I can't say for sure, but in the beginning I don't think it will be. But in general it will be) there's a peach lover in his repertoire, stealing again without asking)
Well, the name)) it's already ready for viewing)) Romantic - "The galaxy is in your ears..." π€£πΊ I'll have to take a look at the promo, if it's interesting and will be discussed here, then I'm in business))
Now I've come across two interesting observations: Did you notice how well Louis was tipping wine? And all because Dad said it was wine for my daughter-in-law))) And Lu Guangming treated Inspector Xie with the money that he had previously paid him for a night of love)
We may have discussed it, but there's already so much here, I'm afraid I won't make it through)
@vera24: Well, it was obvious about the wine. Chu San was hitting him in the leg for putting too much weight on McGauley, or whatever they were drinking. Actually, Chu San lost control of the situation. I wanted to arouse a little jealousy, but then Aunt Faye started gossiping, and my father started talking about his grandchildren. Lucy was really already drinking alcohol to drown out these words around her, and to drink everything that May wouldn't get.
But I missed something about the money. I must have been in my thoughts, it happens to me... Therefore, it will still be necessary to review, to feel all the details.
Oh, yesterday, for some reason, I went to watch some videos from the shooting and the reactions of the guys. I couldn't tear myself away. And, by the way, the earrings on Lucy are exactly the same ones that @HaiLouYin threw from the WB. I think it's even the same size. It's just that his ears are smaller, and the Chinese are more likely to be compact.
@sirynguy: If this were Thailand, there would be a whole website of accessories for fans. And here, unfortunately, go search for marketplaces yourself.
@innsight: Then his ears are bigger, on the contrary, if my earrings look bigger than his, but in general, I also ordered the ones in the shape of sticks... and his Led Zeppelin T-shirt... I looked at Fan Xiao's cigarettes, and cut off Lui's style. By the way, I still only smoke these cigarettes, I found a place where they are sold in one pack. I've tried the whole line, but black is still the most exciting
@HaiLouYin: For some reason, I had a premonition that you would switch completely to these cigarettes. Well, it's clear with the T-shirt, but I didn't understand what kind of wand earrings were there.
In general, according to the photos from the World Bank, these white crescents seem small at all.
@HaiLouYin: give me 5, me too) but not on a permanent basis. On holidays or on drunks, so that everyone can see how beautiful I am with such a cigarette))) and after all, they look) and ask where such beauty comes from.
@vera24: Yes, they ask all the time. My block flew off in a couple of weeks: I smoke like I'm out of my mind, and then I had to give everyone a try.
@innsight: and I can't either, just surgical steel π₯² It's a good thing that piercing jewelry is mostly made from it, otherwise I would have gone with what they put for punctures. π Sometimes I decide to wear something else, but for a maximum of one evening.
@HaiLouYin: funny) and I have either gold or surgery. I've already taken off all the piercings, I've probably outgrown them, the only thing I want is to pierce the cartilage again, and wear mono earrings. And all because of the Boom) I like his earrings on my ears)
@HaiLouYin: @vera24 I have the same thing. I have some jewelry to go out with, but if I put it on, I immediately know that I will come home with the consequences in the evening.
Okay, I can chat with you endlessly)) But I'm going to Real Madrid. My daughter has a doctor on Sunday, it's time to remember that I'm also a mother. I'll see you tonight in episode 8. Well, and the picture is for you)
Discussion: Season 1, Episode 7 Join the Discussion
310When the New Year's Eve dinner started, I already felt a little uneasy. Every joke has an expiration date, and at some point it stops being harmless. Chusan's game with a fictional girl has just reached this dangerous border
What was intended as an easy way to arouse jealousy may at some point lead to completely different thoughts than you expected. It looks like that's exactly what happened to Lucy.
When he is alone and looking at the fireworks, he goes into his thoughts, I can hear the echoes of Dr. He and Jie'fei's casual conversation about the future of Chusan, about love, family and grandchildren.
All this feels so right, calm and natural that it becomes almost painfully obvious that there is simply no place for Xia Liushi in this picture of the world.
At this point, it's no longer about jealousy. Rather, it is a clash with the understanding of one's own position. There is a feeling that this story has a limit.
Dr. Hae's expectations are very clear, he wants a normal and safe life for his son. Chusan has received a good education, is building a career outside Honglong, and the logical continuation of this path is a family, children, and a future in which everything is stable and predictable.
The clearer this scenario becomes, the more its incompatibility with reality is felt.
He's not just a man from the wrong circle, he's part of a world that doesn't leave without consequences. It's a world in which it's impossible to promise even tomorrow, let alone the future for someone else.
Chusan should be watching his children grow up, not watching Lui point a gun at his forehead in a shabby diner.
Liu Yi can't even guarantee Chusan his own life. The idea that, being a part of the criminal world, one day you can just close this chapter and leave without paying the price sounds more like an illusion.
Even if Liu understands his feelings and admits that Chusan is more than a friend to him, it will not remove the main feeling that he is not able to give him the life he deserves.
Here comes another layer related to gratitude. This connection with Dr. He makes the situation even more difficult, because it's not just about other people's expectations, but about the people he owes. To destroy their vision of the future of Chusan is to allow themselves the level of selfishness that Liu needs to be prepared for.
And I do not even know what is more difficult in such a situation: to admit your feelings or to neglect the dreams of those who are dear to you.
It's interesting to see how his reaction gradually changes, as he wanders through this maze of feelings and tries to find a direction in which to move on.
Judging by the context, they have been communicating for several years, and there is nothing accidental about this affection. Especially considering what Liu went through, the loss of his family, and the abrupt plunge into a new world where Chusan's family surrounded him with such a level of warmth, care, and home comfort that it's scary to lose.
In such a situation, jealousy of a friend, of his attention, does not look like something out of the ordinary. It is much more difficult to understand that there is something more behind it, especially if you have never encountered such a depth of feelings before.
I like that the plot goes exactly this way and gives Lucy time. It echoes life very accurately. True, life is not a drama where you can be sure that the other person will figure himself out and everything will end right.
Sometimes understanding comes too late, afterward. When you encounter similar feelings in the right, socially acceptable context and suddenly realize that what happened before went far beyond friendship.
And we can only live with the fact that it was never said.
Fortunately, Lui and Chusan are characters in a fictional story, and they still have a chance not to bring it to the point of no return.
P.S. the creators of this drama are the real masters of cliffhangers... and that's how I live for a whole week now.
Yes, actually, I admired him throughout the series. What catches my eye the most is how he works with facial expressions and looks β this is the level of skill that I particularly appreciate.
@innsight: I wish I still had a connection with the brain.
Great attempts to engage...sport πΊ
Finally, they remembered about the inspector and explained that this arrogant guy got to him NOT only for blackmail, but also to avenge the dead guy, now their line is fighting with the novel.
By the way, this Jason is very, very high time for Lucy to be jealous. π
But is it really the norm for rather closed Asians, well, at least for office workers to so easily interfere in the personal affairs of a colleague?
Jason just met Chu San, immediately picks up the phone instead of him, asks him head-on, "Did your girlfriend call?
" A friend...Are you sure he's just a friend?
Dong Dong is a beauty in every way.
And this "escort girl"/virgin is also so pretty.
How can you be gay in Asia?! Such girls are basque all around π
And how can you be straight there))? These guys are cute all around πΈ
Being BI there is an option))
Xia Liushi is so far from catching up on a personal level that there is no other option left for Chu San except to clamp him against the wall))
Sorry...But I don'T believe in straight people, and I don't believe in gays either.
Consciously, a person may be convinced of their orientation, but what is there in the subconscious...One meeting can change everything...
I believe that the main thing is that a person should be good and sincere...β£οΈ
The rest is nuances)) as that guy from "There are only girls in jazz" said when he found out that he had fallen in love with a "woman" who is actually a man in disguise))
"Everyone has their own flaws..." π€£πΊ
It didn'T affect my feelings.
This is logical if you believe in the reincarnation of the soul...β€οΈβπ₯
But I do.
We were in different bodies and with different partners and somewhere deep this experience left its mark.
I also believe that people love a person, not a gender identity, and in real life I have several such pairs of acquaintances, who lived with their husband, who with his wife in a regular gender union,and then one fateful meeting and everything.
So the stories about "everything changes after one meeting" fit perfectly into this view. People's experiences can be more flexible and ambiguous.
This is too, too gorgeous a series, vibes of the 11th episode of Avenged Love flashed through my head when watching, technologies for conquering an unyielding bun who still does not realize her feelings are so technologicalπ To bring everything to the point where Xia Liushi is afraid that the dear and only Chu San is about to be taken away and needs to take a step is so easy.π₯Ή
I even thought the melody in the scene in the ward (49:18 approximately) was quite similar to the melody from episode 11 of OL (night kiss), just an observation.
It was amazing. But to end the series at such a moment is TOO cruel. She sat for 5 minutes staring at the screen with round eyes.
Thank you to dear friend Xia Liushi for her contribution to speeding up and developing the relationship between the two buns. A true friend, her motives are noble and we are happy. I adore such heroines who actively participate in the life of gg
The multitude of funny scenes, the subtle acting just brought me to tears, the gorgeous facial expressions of the actors, accents, looks, just shine.
I just admire Chu San - well, nothing will stop him on his way to his favorite bun - all sorts of little things like making a leg move in the ward, pouring soup is just a nice addition. Tattooing is practically heavy artillery, the last strawπ
Dear Xia Liushi, you should not raise the supports on the hospital bed in an attempt to defend yourself - they will get you anyway!
And Chusan is great in this regard, he feels right when his concern is appropriate and when it's better to hold it for later.
And so, in my opinion, the most gorgeous sport is oil wrestling, where wrestlers cover themselves with oil and fight in leather pants. π
Everything is legal
Xiao Ma was already tired of looking at his boss' sour face π«
Chusan hasn't had time to prepare the food yet, but this caramel bun is already lifting the handrails for the tableβ¦
Well, how can you believe in his attempts to hide his delight if he doesn't hide it at all π«
It's harmful to keep everything to yourself
China is a phenomenon that I am ready to praise endlessly. I still can't fully process the fact that Daddy is back.
And he was still trying to keep a straight face . π
If he hadn't gone himself, Cui Dong would have kicked him out anyway ππ
It means that a couple of years have already passed, but I didn't catch any clear markets like in to my shore, for example.
And having such a person by your side is good luck. He will be able to guide and support.
And, perhaps, the only one from Lucy's entourage who really understands how hard it was for him to lose his sister and brother. And now he has a chance to find a normal life again, and this opportunity should not be missed.
And she got a good look at Chusan, too. He sees that he is actually not such an innocent and quiet student as others look at him. And I think she understands that Chusan will be able to take care of Lucy.
Well, visually, the scene of Cui Dongdong and Chusan's conversation is beautifully done. The moment Cui Dongdong receives an answer from him that he is serious about Liu Yi, she appears in the reflection behind his back.
She believes that he is telling the truth and is ready to support him. Even though she and Chusan come from different worlds, she is on his side in the matter of Lucy's happiness.
Despite the trash of what Fan did, I was laughing so hard from the moment: I want to sleep with this dirty pervert, bang!! Get it and sign up
A reliable friend, of course. I organized everything quickly. Although, maybe they didn't really ask for it, it was just an outburst of jealousy.
And yes, such a frame change is pure dopamine.
Chusan was just carefully probing the soil there
I don't know what's in this guy's head, but he's not trustworthy. And he will stop at nothing to achieve his goals.
At the same time, the flashback makes it clear that there are unresolved issues between him and Xie Jiahua. As far as I understand, Inspector Xie had a loved one, for whose death Lu Guangming blames him.
It's hard to understand what exactly connects these three, but I just hope that Lu Guangming is unscrupulous enough to be guided only by a thirst for revenge.
I understand that Lucy doesn't just play billiards and hang out at the club. He's a fucking crime boss. But looking at how he and his guys behave with ordinary people on the other side of the criminal world, I involuntarily begin to perceive them as the same people with their own complicated stories, and my moral compass simply refuses to work properly.
So I would like Lu Guangming to sort out his old accounts with Xie Jiahua without involving Liu Yi in it. Moreover, he doesn't seem to care about justice.
And I really hope that everything will turn out well. But Xia Liushi had already hit Lu Guangming with a fist in advance... and he obviously wouldn't just swallow it.
It's a pity that Lu Guangming and Xie Jiahua have to follow the rules and not have a good old-fashioned fight.
But what can you do if the law is not written for Xia Liui π€·πΌβοΈ
And Chusan's motivation is stronger than Lu Guangming's thirst for revenge.:
"Xia Liushi, as a child, I dreamed that one day I would take my father and get out of this muddy, smelly swamp. And now I want to take you with me."
P.S. and how beautifully the Dutch corner is played ... also through the play of light and shadow π€πΌ
I'm dying from this visual.
So Lu Guangming, in general, got down to business ... it was no big deal to measure pussy with the most formidable guy in the area.
Hitting people is not good, but this one was just asking for it.
Now Liushi can no longer afford impulsive actions towards Chusan.
One look at his confused face is enough to pull himself together.
This kind of appetite accelerates as much as Lucy's jumping on the stairs. π
And our peach lover is even more thrilled ... such a view in front of him, and you can also stare into the open π
I think his testosterone was off the charts at that moment. π
And here, Lui looks like an Indian, so I think the creators were joking, or they were changed in the process)))
And tell me, without spoilers, is the plot of the novel very different from the drama?
So you can call it like this - @name in the text and the person will see it?
And I thought that in order for a person to see the message, it is necessary to write a response to his comment and only this way it turns out to provoke a conversation.
Or you can do it without a comment, just put a @ sign in front of the nickname .
Well, I'll try @vera24.
Vera, did you get this message from me?))
Then why didn't I manage to call you((( apparently I was doing something wrong
It's a pity that the production only pulled nine episodes. But I'm glad that the drama has strongly attracted an international audience... it couldn't have been any other way. And if the response is good and there are investors, maybe there will still be a chance to continue π€π»
Therefore, I stubbornly avoid Japanese projects, as I understand that they are not inferior to China. I'm afraid that otherwise I will be sent to compulsory treatment for addiction. π
As for the novel, you know how I struggle with myself not to write to you girls every three minutes and not force you to go and read. She's gorgeous!!!! I like that they don't overload the brain with information, all the scenes are dosed, you don't get tired of them. There is a lot of humor, the characters are revealed so subtly that I feel myself inside them. Definitely need to read.
The only thing is that at some point there are a lot of NTS and very detailed ones, but will this moment come π€π€
I'm a grated roll, and I blushed while I was reading)
I was brought to the world of BL by the legendary anime "Wedge of Love".
I'm a fan of anime in general, and somehow I accidentally got from Sailor Moon to yaoi anime))
After watching it, I started looking for the translation of ranobe, which was used to make "The Wedge of Love".
That's how I got on the Ficbook and found out that in addition to translating primary sources, there are also fanfiction.
And almost immediately I got into my own thrash "fanfiction" there π
First, I met a crazy psychiatrist from Canada, a Puppeteer, and then an unforgettable Anechka π€£πΌ
And I myself have already become the heroine of her poems and fanfiction.
Then I realized from fanfiction that many are written based on Asian BL series.
And I started looking for them and looking at them.
I think my first Asian BL is probably my "Favorite Enemy."
A novel and a movie are radically different, heaven and earth.
Well, then came "Heroin," "A trip to love back and forth."..
And so I've watched full-length gay movies about "white people" before, of course.
"Brokeback Mountain", "Snake Skin", etc.
Well, the European BL "Bare wire" that impressed me the most.
Now it's just Asia π
China is an unmistakable vibe. He has such a powerful aura that it's impossible to resist.
I think you had the perfect start, and I also think it might not have worked out that way with Thailand.
β¨For example, it took me a while to get used to them. And now they're having a hard time again... it's all China's fault.β¨He came back and reminded me how to shoot.
Now I'm waiting for new projects.
And you've caught the wave of China's second coming.β¨They started all this mess about ten years ago and literally blew up international viewers with the drama Addicted. Even on wiki, you can find an article about it β it was really an international phenomenon that led to the fact that the PRC had to hastily change censorship laws.β¨But even so, Chinese bromances, as a way out of the situation, are a separate kind of art. π€πΌ
And Revenged Love is based on a novel by the same author. So then Mommy and Daddy just came back again. I had no doubt at all that the drama would shoot and everyone would go crazy.β¨Even at the casting stage, the olds were already on pins and needlesβ¨It was hard to believe in this return. Yes, and with a remake of the novel, which China also hacked down at the time, and literally half of the plot came out there and the drama was taken off the air.
And here's a remake π€€
β¨However, there was a real risk that revenged love would simply be shut down. Fully Chinese production is a risk. Therefore, now Tien Xiuning and Ziyu are not shining anywhere together, so that they don't get caught up in the PRC. Are the guys still building a career in China? β¨They can't even communicate openly in real life, let alone stream together.
And Children's Day is a very popular novel. She is adored not only in China, but all over the world.β¨I'm still afraid to wake up and find out that everything that's happening is my schizophrenic dream. π₯Ί
I never imagined that after ten years of waiting, such a gift was waiting for me.
As for Japanese dramas, they also have their own charm, and they come second to me. I used them to eat up the suffering when China shackled the hands of its bl creators.
So if you start watching here, there really is a chance to get bogged down even more. π
But I don't regret anything.
That in the drama, that in life they behave like tramples, they protect their halves, it looks very cool.
Sometimes it looks like a person could just be literally crushed. The same Ziyu (Da Bao) They almost brought him to tears. Until he had proper security, he couldn't move around at the airport at all.
And Xiunin also got no less, I saw footage from the cabin of the plane, where a crowd is hanging over him, and it's just terrible.
Therefore, I am very glad that the actors from this drama and from to my shore can appear together in public.
At least this way we can protect each other from crazy fans.
If you combine the hieroglyphs of their names, you get "heroin"
And Hai Luo Yin is just the Latin transliteration of this word.
I would like to experience amnesia so that I can watch it for the first time.
The only problem with the drama is that it's not finished. π₯²β¨She was taken off the air, and the plot ends at Cliffhanger.
If you want to find out what's next, you can watch Stay With Me (2023), a reboot of this story, and it's very decent, even with censorship
But there are problems here, too: they shot only one season based on the first volume of the novel, and the sequel remained somewhere in my dreams.
and you can just enjoy watching.
And if you look at it that way, the drama was stopped very well, because there would have been just the tiniest beginning, and so we stopped on a pleasant note when everything was still good.
I also have addicted on my list of projects that I review periodically. And I get goosebumps every time from the opening credits.
So what? Time has passed, and I've come to terms with it. And now I'm happy to review it.
Now we've talked and I want to turn on their bedtime conversations again, these heroin addicts.
The fact that there is no way to reach the finals does not affect its quality in any way.
I felt bad at the moment when you're waiting for a new episode, and then you find out that's it.
For a while, you live by rumors that there is still a chance, and then everything subsides, and only an unpleasant aftertaste remains.
And now there are no such emotions, just the thrill of watching.
Dark Blue and Moonlight is a great thing
You reminded me, and the first thought is that we should reconsider.
Something suddenly pulled me into the past... I rarely have such a desire.
It just pulls you back to those feelings.
And now, if my soul demands it, I give up, I go to watch it again.
And I wonder how my perception has changed during this time, because you also catch new emotions when you look at it with a different look.
And considering that I've noticed stagnation now, it might be time to try the delights of re-watching.
By the way, I saw Sam in Wishing Upon the Shooting Stars and wondered how We Best Love came to me at the time.
Maybe it's really time to go through your list and see what makes your heart skip a beat.
If it continues in the same spirit, we will not be able to wait for new products... Am I right?? Was there something like this 10 years ago?
Actor #ZhanGxuan's photo was removed from the promotional post of a new Chinese drama in which he was supposed to participate. It has not yet been confirmed whether his scenes will be deleted, but the publication is already hinting at this.
Rumor has it: The Chinese government's new rules are to boycott BL actors (especially those with promotions/interactions after the BL drama), so if a BL actor appears in the drama (not BL), they will boycott him and delete scenes with the actor.π₯Ή
#RevengedLove
On the one hand, I understand that this is being done so that young minds are not led astray. But on the other hand, whoever is looking, he will find)) I won't go deep into this topic, but this imposition of my vision is terribly annoying!! Paid subscriptions, parental controls, and we adults will figure out for ourselves what to watch and read. Otherwise, we're all sitting here without YouTube and a cart - aha!!!
Of course, the comparison with BL is not very suitable here, in the USSR everything was tailored to the socialist ideology.
In general, I support censorship, if only to protect our children's eyes from unnecessary things. Except it really doesn't make sense. In our Internet world, children are better at googling than adults. Despite all the sanctions, they manage to use all the platforms when adults dance with tambourines.
As a result, the man was reprimanded and lost his role.
And this is the whole specifics of the system. The industry in China is quite tightly regulated: there are a number of standards and professional requirements for artists that they must meet in order to be eligible to work in China.
There is no wording in the spirit of a step to the left β execution, but in fact it all boils down to the fact that the content must correspond to the "correct" values, and the actors themselves must maintain the most impeccable public image. I no longer remember the exact wording from the regulatory framework, but in general terms, moral qualities and an "example for society" are separately emphasized there
In practice, it looks like this: if an actor has reputational problems, they can cut him out, replace him (now up to deepfake) or simply stop inviting him to projects. In extreme cases, a person actually gets into an unspoken ban: officially, of course, no one announces this, but the industry reads it, and projects with such an actor simply do not pass approval at the first stage.
The reason for the ban is usually not in the bl itself as such, but in a broader category β inconsistency with the "correct" values. So you can get a reprimand for any other behavior that looks immoral in the eyes of the public and the state.
Now the Chinese bl is supported by international distribution, without uploading it to Chinese streaming platforms. Plus, cooperation with other countries and regions (Taiwan, Thailand, Hong Kong) acts as a kind of safety cushion, and the main support is provided by gagaoolala, which takes over the broadcast.
And so far the scheme is working, but how long it will last is an open question. After all, the actors are Chinese.
Although China cannot directly influence foreign platforms, it is quite possible to tighten the requirements for its actors. And if it is considered that filming in some projects or actions (for example, the same fan-mit in Thailand) spoil the image of China in the international arena, the rules of conduct for actors may become even stricter (although much stricter)
And then the "we don't show this to the mainland" loophole may just collapse in a moment.
Plus, with the development of social networks, it only becomes easier to track the activities of actors, and the consequences for them come faster.
The more business edits in the spirit of "they behave like a real couple" are forced, the higher the chance that new amendments to the conditional censorship law will not take long to wait.
But the international audience is already going crazy, and the more intense the interest, the faster it is extinguished.
As was already the case with addicted: his success significantly fueled everyone and accelerated the process of tightening the screws. The drama did not directly cause it, but it became one of the triggers, after which the regulation began to strengthen faster.
So for now, we can only be happy with what we have, but be prepared that at some point we will have to say goodbye again.
But even if it happens tomorrow, I am already grateful for these few projects that the brave guys were able to release.
The main thing is that the actors and creators do not put themselves at unnecessary risk.
But there is no such practice in other countries.
And the actors themselves don't always stay in the bl niche. They can just flash once and that's it.
And mainland China, as always, has its own special approach.
It's not like BL projects, they even try not to repeat the cast of bromance if there was a noticeable chemistry between the actors. Therefore, it's definitely not worth waiting for joint projects with the same actors.
Moreover, actors often deliberately distance themselves from each other if the audience actively ships them β this is already a matter of self-preservation. Any interaction between them is analyzed under a microscope, and netizens immediately attribute romantic overtones. This can lead to real career risks, which is why actors prefer not to cross paths at all: neither on set, nor at events, nor in their personal lives.
The addicted and the untamed castes are the most famous examples. After a sharp rise in popularity, the actors actually stopped public contacts. It's been many years, and they've never crossed paths... anywhere... as if they live in parallel universes.
Most likely, the same story awaits Xiunin and Ziyou. Unlike other BL actors, who shot mainly at an international audience, they gained a powerful fanbase in mainland China, which means that the attention to them is even tougher.
So the probability that they will cross paths again in projects (and even more so in bl) is almost zero. Simply because neither of them would want to become a risk factor for the other's career.
At the same time, the project gave them a strong start and an audience, but then everyone will go their own way. For them, bl is not a niche in which they will remain, but a springboard. Xiuning will develop as an actor and media personality, while Ziyu is initially focused more on a musical career, and the drama simply gave him the opportunity to make himself known to a wide audience.
In general, this is a common strategy: to use a successful project as a start and continue moving in different directions, be it cinema, music, modeling, business. Bl here is an opportunity that needs to be used wisely, not an endpoint.
For fans of bl, they will eventually disappear from the radar, but those who fell in love with the guys outside the genre will continue to maintain their popularity.
Officially, the drama is presented as an independent project, but in terms of content it is the story of a minor couple from addicted.
It's just that for the script, the original plot of the novel was slightly adjusted so as not to infringe on copyrights.
So the drama is not a canon of the addicted universe, but the creators have done everything possible to convey this particular vibe.
Plus, they've put in a bunch of references that draw parallels between the two stories.
The characters are played by the same actors who played the supporting characters in addicted.
Actually, they also invested in the production.
There is nothing grandiose in the drama.: it's low-budget and was broadcast on youtube, but even if you take away the nostalgic flair and the connection with addicted, the performance is quite decent.
Thanks for the detailed explanation.
So theoretically, and perhaps practically, #our fan of Persikov went to this project against the background of the inability to act in other projects ((( this is very, very sad.
It turns out that when many guys go into this genre, they realize that this is probably their only project. I'm really indignant. I hope everyone will have a career no matter what!!!!
Although there was initially a rumor in the international fandom that it was cut because of Sammy's children... but I went on weibo and found out that there was a lot of hype around that video. Plus, there was a hotel somewhere nearby, and supposedly he came out of there... in short, some kind of absurdity
Now everything seems to have subsided, but xs, where his career will turn next is in China π
I hope that he will still be forgiven for the fact that he stood next to another man at the hotel.π
Yang Chao (Liu Yi) was born in Hong Kong, so I hope that such jokes won't fall on his head.
By the way, a peach lover said that he has Russian roots, about 1/8
In general, to put it decently, the trend is as sad as possible. And no improvements are expected. I'm always in awe that actors even agree to such roles.
And sometimes it's not so much entertainment content as a social statement. People just want to show that two people's love is normal.
It's very frustrating that someone in the 21st century has to pretend that they don't exist. This hits the community, which is already under constant pressure.
By the way, Love After Addiction has a storyline about gg's career, which quite clearly shows the consequences.
And then there's The Sparkle in Your Eyes, which is also a Chinese project, where industry issues are also being raised. This is from the creators of the Blue Canvas of Youthful Days, who literally fought through censorship. And in The sparkle... they refer to this situation. And blue canvas... became the first Chinese project that gaga bought for retransmission after being banned on the mainland. Both dramas are cool, but it's not clean to relax, there's enough glass
In general, you can look at the list of China in my profile, I upload all projects from the mainland, both old and newer.
And I really hope that the release will be released. π€π»While there is a lull, but officially no one has canceled anything, so I'm holding on to the version that the postproduction was just delayed.
From the recent discussions that I've been checking out: fans were allegedly watching the shooting, leaking photos/videos with spoilers; there were complaints about harassment of the crew and actors (like sasan); and that it sometimes interfered with the process. Even to the point of disrupting scenes or emergency location changes. But what is actually there is not clear at all.
In any case, until the producer says, that's it, let's go, I'll believe that they'll show it to us anyway.
I have the same story with Counter Attack (Revenge Love): I read it once, after the first version of the drama was banned, just to find out how it would end.
But version 2.0, which the author has already redesigned for the drama, is a great upgrade.
I wouldn't mind if she turned this new reinterpreted version of the story into a novel.
I would even buy it to support it with yuan
It's good that there are some rebels who are not afraid.
I also came across information that he has Russian roots. Apparently these dim eyes are our legacy))) I like to think so. π₯°
Yeah, I'll take a look
At the same time, the censorship of mainland China does not directly apply to Hong Kong cinema, but in practice there is an impact: if the project is focused on the mainland market, it is already adjusted to Chinese requirements in order to obtain a rental certificate.
If the creators do not plan to enter the mainland market, they have more freedom, and then only the local censorship of Hong Kong is in effect, which is generally milder, but budgets there are usually lower, and the potential profit is less.
So more often than not, these are more niche projects or independent films than some kind of large-scale production.
It looks like only we have read "Addicted" here))
I read not only the novel itself, but also several fanfiction books on them.
Well, I watched the series itself - the first legendary Chinese version a couple of times, and some moments 6-7 times))
But, this is NOT a record for me...
that's if I'm just willing to practice...And it's like going back a few years...
I'm turning on - "His Story" 1.
"Possessed" 4 episodes of 20 minutes each.
And from beginning to end, I can't count how many times I've actually watched it.
It's a cool mini-series, but it's far FROM iconic.
But I got it stuck on repeat))
By the way, I also haven't seen any more actors from there in BL, they probably also scattered over get projects.
From the HIStory cycle, I generally liked all the parts. Some are bigger, some are smaller. Except that the very first ones seem a little damp, and then it just went well. I remember that HIStory2: Right or Wrong was included last. For some reason, I put it off for a long time. And in the end, it was such a heartfelt story that I later criticized myself for being biased.
β¨Maybe it's worth reviewing something from the cycle. I'm choosing what to cry about right now. I want to understand if nostalgia is working for me at all or if it's too early. I'm not a particularly sentimental person, and the plots are too firmly in my head. I wonder if this feeling will turn on or if I'll just get bored because I already know what's going to happen next.
Although I've reviewed the same Addicted a couple of times. Last year I turned it on just to find one moment, but in the end I watched it in its entirety and by the end I had already forgotten why I started at all. π
It was the same story with Revenged Love: I was looking for a fragment for a gif and in the end I couldn't stop.
So there are still some triggers that I'm responding to.
"His story is 1. Possessed", in order to consider it, you need to take a closer look...
That is, you need to endure the first episode, which tells which main character was all fucked up, suffered shoals from troubles ...
But then how they gave him a second chance...
He kind of returned to the same circumstances, with the same appearance, but already different internally and he ignores the poor guy, and let's run after him π₯
And the closer to the finale, the more intense everything becomes, and the last shots of their reconciliation remind even "Addicted" of something in the heat of passion.
"Revenged Love" is great, but there are too many episodes to ever get a full-fledged review for me.
Only if I watch individual episodes or watch shorts, how they filmed it and laughed all the time πΈ
Extremely positive guys πΊ
But the short series "Counterattack" with the same plot, but filmed a few years before, I watched a couple of times.
The actors have such faces there...)) like, What's going on?!
I turn on to laugh))
I read it To my shore. And there, from the text, you can cut yourself inscriptions in Thai on a T-shirt for the future. Well, just to be sure of the translation))
I get a lot of motivation from films of this genre, if I may say so. And our guys: I am doubly grateful to the peach lover and the black cat princess. They're so positive. I watch their streams on YouTube sometimes, as if they pour the elixir of life into me.
How the actors want to give a standing ovation! And I would like to wish them a good career, projects, and, in general, that their lives turn out well. (Where is the universe yelling at?)
And I got this part right from the first episode, and I didn't have any problems getting into the story. Moreover, it's so short that you don't even notice how the episodes fly by.
The original Counter Attack is a bit raw, but funny, it's a pity that it was banned. I even wonder what they would have done in the second season. Although maybe it's for the best... suddenly there wouldn't have been enough budget for Addicted, but the Heroin shot better than the Attack.
And the faces in Counter Attack, taking into account what is happening, should be like this: what's going on anyway? β the main question that the characters ask against the background of everything that happens in the plot
But it makes no sense for me to review such mini-projects. We need something more voluminous and deep, so that there is something to think about, you can even start the process of rethinking.
And for easy entertainment, there are already a lot of things coming out and pulling something new to check out.
So for me, every such project is more than just a love story. Especially if these are projects from Japan, Korea, and China, where a person's personal life still goes through the approval of society. And for the community, it is important not to feel like an empty place. And even if it's a fictional story, it can still be supportive and motivating.
So, one of the main cast members of the movie Your Name Engraved Herein starred in bl to support his sister, who found it difficult to accept her identity.
And I also hope that this experience will leave only pleasant memories for the actors and will be a good start towards their goals. It doesn't matter what kind of activity they want to associate their lives with. The main thing is to be happy. They really are so radiant that every new video with them is like a breath of fresh air. They have such a positive aura that it is impossible not to be influenced by it. And I'm grateful to them for spoiling us with streams.
That's exactly what I will need to either review or read the novel in order to rethink this "My understudy".
I came across one that was already fully released and voiced, and I didn't have much time then, and I was shaking in places, I really wanted to find out the denouement, so I probably DIDN'T understand a lot.
I'm not even talking about the magic part, but about this Ming.
First of all, I had seen him in "My dear Writer" before, there is such a milah, and here is such a dominant like.
And also some kind of unfinished one, like Kelvin from "Yesterday".
So this Ming fell in love with the actor there when he saw him first from behind in a scene from behind with a naked one.
Then it turned out that his understudy was Joe.
Well, in general, in front of this actor, this Ming was running on his hind legs, he was afraid to breathe on him.
But he clung to the understudy, and so rudely, like a dominant, obey me!
And I interfered with his work and kidnapped him, well, you know, 100% of you watched.
And then, when I thought he was dead, I met him in another body and DIDN'T recognize him, and I got to him in this body, thinking that this was another guy altogether.
Then I just realized and it was like domination again.
Some kind of loving Ming pissed me off.
And he loved that actor, and he fell in love with the understudy, and then he didn't recognize him in his new body, and he fell in love again, thinking that it was someone else altogether.
And in the end, like, you're the only love in my life!
Because I fell in love with your bare back, then in the frame, but I DIDN't know that it was yours and for a long time I ran after the actor you were dubbing.
They're talking nonsense...
it turns out that Ming fell in love with three different men in a short time.
In front of the actor, he lay down straight, looked in love.
Joe openly bullied his understudy, never took him face to face, ruined his career, etc.
And he simply dominated the same understudy in another body, bribing him with money and dictating his own rules again. And it took me a long time to realize that this was Joe, and I was happy to mess with him, thinking that the other one just looked like him.
And then we have to forget all this and forgive him, because he already refused the family's money because of Joe.
And anyway, he loved him from the first shot, as soon as he saw his back.
That's exactly what needs to be rethought))
Well, yes, Thais are not the first lakorn to shoot about such a strange love. But I love My stand-in. Although many, of course, condemn Ming. For me, Tong is more unhealthy on the brain there than Ming. In general, Ming's unhealthy behaviors are caused by a number of reasons, I can't call him a 100% abuser here. As a result, there was a rethinking of his views, correction, and redemption. Except Tong wasn't punished, and he didn't even apologize. But besides the main characters' relationships, I liked all the secondary ones. The relationship with my mother, though not my native, with colleagues, with the director. It caused a storm of warm feelings in me that I was reviewing the drama because of these moments.
And it's for this opportunity to relive history without haste that I love ongoings. There is time to get stuck in emotions and digest each episode, rather than jumping right on.
Well, bombing in the comments is a special pleasure .
By the way, because of you, I rewatched We Best Love to refresh my memory of the scene in the infirmary, and damn, what a great story... directing and acting - kissing hands
There are so many details in the frame that the knowledge of the plot fades into the background, it's such a pleasure just to stick to the visual
I also forgot that Shiu switched to Japanese periodically, and it's so damn cute.π₯°
At that time, I was unable to find an emotional connection with this story. More precisely, by the end, I had lost it, and I didn't feel any special emotions at the exit. In general, this is the same trope when a guy first messes up, and then begs for forgiveness, and here it's important for me to feel the growth of the character, but I still haven't connected with Ming.
However, I agree with @innsight that Ming has a development against Tong's background and an arc of redemption is laid. I may not have had enough, but we did our best with him. While that semi-finished product was like a horseradish, it remained so to the end.
So everything is learned in comparison. π
And Phim from the Wicked Game and Kelvin from Yesterday have already pushed Ming in my personal rating of characters who have not been able to reach my heart.
So maybe now I really could look at this story with different eyes.
But I'll be waiting for China.
We recently announced a casting for the film adaptation of My Stand-In, so if fate smiles on us, then this story will be chewed up again, but from the original source.
They came up with it themselves, let them explain what its charm is.π
That's why I love Taiwanese TV series. For all their calmness, they cause a firework of emotions even if the plot is uncomplicated.
In general, I love such relationships, they spark interest. But I would like them to be brought to the end of Lakorn, if not to redemption, then at least to moral completeness.
Phim from the "Evil Game" also agrees with the idiot in many ways, but he, like Kelvin, has a very significant advantage, so to speak - they are turned only on their favorites.
Although Phim almost got involved with his former investor, but this is for work))
And so we fell in love and that's it.
And Ming, in a very short time, could be said to have been infatuated with three different men, clearly not a lover, and you couldn't even blame him for that, because of his nature.
Well, okay, he was before...
and Joe was in a new body, when Ming DIDN'T recognize him, he appeared in that body after Joe's death.
And Ming was happy to hook up with him, occasionally grieving for his former favorite.
To all the significant disadvantages of Ming, the fact that he is a walker is added.
Yes, well, they are in general))
We have Xia Liui here, he's so serious)) He only looks at Chu San. πΊ
You can't beat that standard of toxicity and violence.
I'm always more drawn towards ambiguous dynamics. If the creators have tried their best, then, as a rule, the characters are more deeply worked out, and the motivation, and the connection between them. And it really piques interest. Apparently, I always want to go there, which is not enough in life. π
And I agree that with such stories it is necessary to go to the finals correctly, so that in the end there would be a sense of completeness, and not just: well, together, so together.
I couldn't stop thinking that I remember how they got there, I remember eating noodles, but when Sam sang there... I just had a white spot. π
And I have never regretted that I threw sleep out of my schedule for the sake of revision.
When I started, the first thought that came to mind: So that's why I fell in love with Taiwanese TV series.
Such a simple story, but so much soul in it.
And I was especially looking forward to the scene on the bridge. I was curious if she would lose her emotional intensity... and no, not at all. I was just as delighted from start to finish.
And even the anticipation of this moment was rather pleasing, because I already knew that it was going to be very, very cool.
I know a man, his wife Alyona left him, he found Lena and calls her Alyona π€¦βοΈ
@Ayana85: Please, one little spoiler, I'll hide it))))he also only has a foot on Chu San
The most important thing that prevented Ming from building a healthy relationship was his egocentrism.
Joe was kidnapped then, and he got a once-in-a-lifetime career chance. The coolest producer was waiting to meet Joe and left in a rage.
And Ming-So what? I'll get you into another movie for cheating.
That is, he doesn'T realize at all how much I am suppressing another person, a young man who wants to achieve something himself in this life.
And there is such a thing about the recurring type and names.
For example, my cousin had a lot of Tans in his life and still has them, and they're all blondies π
Oh well, I'm NOT from the category of fixated))
If anyone has a variety of tastes, it's me. πΈπΊ
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That's a spoiler, so spoiler, no one knew that πΈπΊ
I like it better)) to have something to hold on to...
Asians are a harsh exception to my tastes, they are almost all thin.
But, I say, I have a variety of tastes))
But ideally, they like it better.
Of the bl actors, Viera (Fort) has nothing like a figurine.
There's also the bl "Knockout" about boxing, where the main character's opponent has an amazing figure.
Well, if we talk about girls, Anechka Semyonovich is the standard figure for me. πΈπΊ
I already went to her concert, it's even better in real life. ππ
Well, it was then, now she's gone.
Fort is the standard of kissers for me)) No one kisses like that for me. There was a time when I wanted to ask Google how to explain to my husband that Fort will now live with us, and okay, Googl2: how to explain to my husband that before he leaves for work, he will have to kiss Fort first, otherwise I will be sad all day.
There are a lot of good kissers in bl))
But for some reason, I remember being particularly impressed by the feature film, "Cornered Mouse Dreams of cheese..."
That's where I remember the first two kisses very much.
The guy has been in love with someone else for 8 years, and then he got a chance to almost blackmail his way.
It was so realistic, the straight guy already wrinkled up all over, but then he got involved))
But in the first bl, except for "Heroin," of course, or "His story..." in the rest of the early bl, kissing is just pain...
Even in one of my favorites, "Love by Chance 2," you can't look at their attempts without tears.
Today, the video from the YunYi concert in Bangkok was leaked β they showed the trailer for the special
So it won't be long now.
That is, there is an opportunity to see the trailer- cool!!!!I'll run home and look for
I hope their coming soon is really soon. I can't wait anymore.
Thanks for the info
Don't forget to call me there in the comms as soon as it comes out.
Please, someone πΊ
@innsight: @vera24:
Well, what kind of figure do you have? I'm a nymph
So you're kind of for skinny?!))
And Fan is of average fatness πΈπΊ
I wouldn't mind helping you apply sunscreen, but okay, that's a task for Shu Lan.
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I'll probably never look through a bunch of hangers.
Well, what, ah!!π€
Well, maybe many people turn out to be shorter than expected.
The camera and the stage equalize everything.
And in real life, you're watching the same Neletto in the "Lyubimka" video, he probably took a 150 cm girl, so what a tall jock against her background.
And in real life, I was at his concerts 4 times and when he went through the fence but walked next to me and looked at everyone like that in the eyes.
So he's 170 cm tall, too, maybe a little over 173 cm.
He walked eye to eye, he's as tall as me.
Men often turn out to be smaller than expected, more compact.
But the faces are wider than on camera.
And the girls are getting fatter in real life, kind of vague.
Well, except for Yulka Chicherina, she turned out to be much taller and thinner than I thought. I think she's probably taller than 175 cm.
But we also see them once in real life at a certain period.
Maybe we didn't sleep all night, we drove, we even drank juice and got swollen.
And for the clips, they lose weight in a special way, they are made up there.
And then you look at a round pug in real life and compare it with clips where there are clear facial features.
And it seems that in real life they are not even that thicker, but kind of swollen, swollen.
And on camera, they're taut and clear.
I'll challenge you to a dead lakorn, do you mind? I need to check the dates there, because where I read, the editor was thoroughly blown away at the end, and there was a complete confusion.
@HaiLouYin: You like closing arches, so there's an arch the size of the Chinese wall.
After what I've been through, I'm even ready to forgive Calvin for everything.
Yes, they are all there as an example of how not to. Except for the girls
in a week I 'll finally storm this Chinese wall .
Let's choose some series that nobody needs and arrange a book club meeting in the comments.
Although, if we have a heated discussion there, it will immediately become popular.
It seems to me that any series where the four of us get together is doomed to such popularity. π
@vera24: ahah, let's catch up on the intrigue
and let them look more closely
Try to find one besides this one.
Of those that I commented on first, access to the humble and innocent "Cat for Cash" was blocked.
And hot lacorns have been open for a long time.
It is not clear by what criteria the series are sorted.
Well, as an experienced astrologer would say...
this increases the influence of the planet Saturn...On society.
This wise but harsh planet, its influence is most often to constrict, limit, and set up barriers.
And now is the period of Saturn's very powerful influence all over the world.
I've just seen the news - today the UK passed a law on the "generation without smoking".
From now on and forever, the sale of tobacco products to those born in 2008 and later is prohibited in their country.
That is, no matter how old they are, no one in the country will sell them a pack of cigarettes in 5 years or 10 years.
That's how they decided - those born since 2008 will NOT smoke.
Young-looking people will be asked for passports in stores.
I've never tried smoking at all, I've never held a cigarette in my life.
And, of course, I am against selling cigarettes to teenagers.
But when these are adults 18+ years old and they are suddenly banned from selling tobacco products in their country forever, no matter how old they are.
Someone decided that starting in 2008, they don'T smoke what was born in our country, and that's it, and after 10 or 20 years they WON'T sell it.
Well, that's putting pressure on a person.
If only someone had decided about my generation in the 1980s not to sell them (us) chocolates.
And how would I live?!)) Always asking someone to buy near the store.
Although everyone takes me for the generation of the 1990s, actually))
Maybe it would have been a ride.
I mean, soon even the most innocent lacorns and dramas will be blocked without VPN if there are just 2 guys in the main roles, even without bl, probably.
There is a narrowing of personal boundaries...This is a global trend.
If I were suddenly banned from selling chocolates, I would steal. I can't live without a chocolate bar.
Well, the uncle will buy it)) He won't take a chocolate bar or money)) Although it depends on which uncle...πΊ
There are such people, someone would have bought something for them π€£
Anyway, Vera, don't forget to call me in the comments, if that series about the galaxy will be discussed here))
Vera, don't worry. I don't know how old anyone is here, but Yana and I will definitely sell chocolates. So we'll buy you some, sleep well.
The fantasy of an unemployed woman, too much free time)))
That's how we look forward to tomorrow, which we can't help but discuss.
We've completely diverged from this series, of course. π«
These are all your chocolates.
I wonder if there will be a kiss at the beginning of the episode. The screensaver was very similar to this.
And Lucy's eyes are gorgeous π
Well, the name)) it's already ready for viewing))
Romantic - "The galaxy is in your ears..." π€£πΊ
I'll have to take a look at the promo, if it's interesting and will be discussed here, then I'm in business))
Officially, there is practically no information on the drama, but as soon as the schedule appears, I will supplement the card.
And Lu Guangming treated Inspector Xie with the money that he had previously paid him for a night of love)
We may have discussed it, but there's already so much here, I'm afraid I won't make it through)
But I missed something about the money. I must have been in my thoughts, it happens to me... Therefore, it will still be necessary to review, to feel all the details.
The spider tried so hard, wove a web with innocent eyes, and then the father with his expression)))
By the way, I still only smoke these cigarettes, I found a place where they are sold in one pack. I've tried the whole line, but black is still the most exciting
In general, according to the photos from the World Bank, these white crescents seem small at all.
These are just white (ozone 1356836670)
@innsight: and I can't either, just surgical steel π₯²
It's a good thing that piercing jewelry is mostly made from it, otherwise I would have gone with what they put for punctures. π
Sometimes I decide to wear something else, but for a maximum of one evening.
See you soon.
And how he flirted!