After the second season, I read the original source and honestly now, when watching it, I felt no worse than Jules)) I don't remember anything, and I'm completely confused about what's going on. 😂
@U_lol: I'm literally reading the second book right now, where the events of this season are supposed to be shown, and I also don't understand anything, of course, they've changed it a lot.
@Alexander_36: it's the narrative itself, it's an interesting book, because there's a finale , I pay a lot of attention to the thoughts of the characters, but there may be few chapters where almost nothing happens, dialogues, and then events suddenly unfold, it becomes interesting, and you're blown away by what's happening. Definitely worth it. It's a bit like separation. It's also terribly boring at first, you fall asleep, the main thing is to wait out a couple of episodes, and then you stick to the screen.
@hellena_sama: The backstory is needed in order to introduce the characters who will eventually be the main ones at the end. The backstory reveals the characters, shows their character and thinking, so that it would be clear why they would eventually make certain decisions later, but it's slow. They show individual moments, the fundamental ones from which the history of bunkers began, and you need to know them in order to understand why they were created and for what purpose. No need to wait for the action in the series, which in fact belongs to psychological fiction. This series of books, and the series itself, are not based on action, but on showing how society has been living in a confined space for centuries, and how a small spark of hope and interest can ignite the flames of rebellion.. These books are about how a bunch of people thought they could retrain people, make them compliant and manageable, but eventually realized it wasn't possible. Because there will always be someone who asks a little more than necessary))) And by the way, in the second part of the book, many answers and characteristics were given to at least one person - psychiatrist Victor))) It was the episodes with the psychiatrist that immediately answered the question of why the bunkers were created, even wrongly, in these episodes they showed the logic of thinking of the person who created the concept of bunkers and the charter. )) The main thing to remember about this moment is where is the thread at the end of the season when everyone will be asking this question)))
@dedesessrdsyvfry: I was a little annoyed by the beginning, abruptly, I jumped over a huge layer, and the feeling that I was stupid and didn't remember anything and missed something. I wanted to look for the previous episode, but there is no such thing. As it is, I am very happy to see the return of one of my 3 favorite TV series of the 20s.
@AlexSok18: in general, I don't understand why we couldn't continue the line immediately from season 2 of the last episode of the narrative, we stopped at an interesting place there
@Гринч33: I read everything after the first season) I couldn't stand it, but there was no amnesia or many of the events of the first episode in the book at all, so it's doubly interesting!
People who write about a powerful beginning, are you serious?))) For most of the series, they remind you who's who. The line of modernity is really interesting. Nothing is really clear about the Shelter yet.
Don't you wonder how someone who doesn't remember anything could be appointed MAYOR?! I'm more than sure, in any society, she would have said something like "you're a heroine, while you recover, and as soon as you remember everything, we'll make you mayor."
@Ov3rfl0w: there is a puppet (when it is controlled COVERTLY) and here is a variant of the English monarchy where other people actually rule. And the question is are people really idiots? Did they demolish the old government so that the old government (actually the successor of the old mayor) could openly rule them, but gave them the mayor of the "English monarch"?
@Paramelion: I didn't see the power. but on the contrary, deja vu happened, that they would again tediously drag out the plot and would not really tell anything in the season.
@kladdenbuch: Yes, and there's a lot more to show and explain (I hope it won't be crumpled up and the characters won't be shallow. Donnie, Juliette, Charlotte, Thurman should be shown well, their motives
@Paramelion: so there, the husband and wife of both gray cardinals did everything cunningly. Please note, they even give her permission to talk to former friends)
@Smartcookie: They seriously installed a man as mayor who is being stuffed with pills, no matter what he remembers. That he was a puppet, an appearance of the mayor.
@Smartcookie: the fact that the mayor was chosen by the most popular person in the community, who is also a part-time folk heroine, is not really surprising)) and even more so, given the fact that there was a popular uprising, it is even a very logical way out - to give the crowd something that will calm it down.
It's a good start — there are quite a lot of storylines, it's a pity they will be raked out once a week.
In my opinion, it is quite logical that she, as the ideological leader who saved the shelter after the riot, was appointed mayor. They literally rebelled against the authorities and they needed to believe in something, or in this case, in someone.
The memory is jammed intentionally, which makes it convenient for the top. But its exit to the outside and, in general, resistance to the foundations are located by the lower strata. It's convenient and comfortable for everyone to have her.
He'll remember everything now, and then it'll be really interesting. The main thing is that the resistance does not come out of hiding earlier.
@id432499826: If a local government has been overthrown, this does not mean that the government has disappeared altogether.
I'm talking about the nominal head of the silo. After the overthrow of the previous government, people needed someone they trusted — Juliet. At the same time, we are directly shown that the silo is part of a much larger system.
@Krlstos: you think according to our history books, where overthrows are revolutions, there is no such thing in their popular culture, they have another bogeyman, deep state, who is invisible and controls everything, the head of their vault is a hired manager, he could not cope, they removed him, put a more suitable candidate, but I do not understand with GG, she She found out and is trying to play her game, or are these just another pens of the strong and independent.
@id432499826: There is a feeling that you are not talking to me, because you are refuting theses that I did not express.
Juliet was convenient for everyone, both for those who staged and for those for whom they staged (the people). They'll tell you who else is up there, and what kind of memory phenomenon it is, too. These are the main questions of the season now — there are a lot of episodes ahead, we will watch)
I don't know why you like it, but the dream called "From the Outside" ended, where nothing happens, and now I'm waiting for another 9 weeks of Jules walking back and forth and restoring my memory for 1 frame, so that in episodes 9-10 she remembers everything and next season we'll find out... something. And even if she remembers earlier, the creators of the series probably thought out how to strangle us before the end of the season.
@dantes_: According to the books, there is no bunker at all in this part, only the events of our days, so we added amnesia to the series so that we could look at our favorite characters in parallel with the real plot of the book.
@fb1005157: yes, otherwise we would have watched a different series two years later, maybe we made a good turn, but we still want a book dynamic, although it is very simply written, as for the school level, but still the events there were dynamic.
@JardimFramboesa: Well, in general, yes. The second season was torture, and Jules wasn't shown much at all. And in the third book, 1/3 of the story is assigned to her again. Therefore, it seems to me that they decided to return the vibe of the first season with secrets and not make an abrupt transition to the story of the congressman and Charlotte)
@cinemagoer: I also read the stories in the woods, in the air, in the mountain, now I want to see it all sooner, I wonder if more stories will be added to the series.
@cinemagoer: This is Hugh Howie, as well as the official stories, an addition to the books, there are interesting details about what else happened in parallel with the main plot.
@dantes_: Well, if people is doing what they used to say, why don't they continue shooting in the same style and at the same pace? "From the outside," as far as I'm concerned, it's a social media experiment in general.
@dantes_: Well, why do you watch TV shows?) I also just emerged from the "Outside", but that's also the thrill of watching and waiting to see what happens next. Come here in the comments, discuss the twists and turns with like-minded people and what you liked or not) And if you want everything at once, you need to watch these films, where everything fits into 90 minutes)
@cinemagoer: Similarly, watching a TV series is a process that you immerse yourself in and enjoy, and to be honest, I don't even give a shit about the merged endings of the series, because I liked most of what was happening)
@cinemagoer: perfect comment) unfortunately, the shorty series can quickly get forgotten. And walkers, supermen, and others are legends, thanks in part to fillers and the slowness of the plot. I love it, even though it can be boring sometimes.
@dantes_: I laughed a lot at the mention of "From the Outside", well, yes, it's the best thing to watch before going to bed. But the audience can feel closer to the heroine — I don't remember anything from last season either)
Hooray, we waited)))) Well, how vile they were with Juliet, I wish she would send all these hypocrites and liars out. A cloud of oil? and who is this mysterious voice from the glowing remote control?? I support everyone above, it's all very interesting, if only Jules had enough episodes to uncover all the conspiracies and figure out the speaker from the remote control.
@6o4ka: Let's hope so.. I really want Charlotte Truman, Anna and Helen to be revealed . It's strange that Helen wasn't introduced, will she be at all? TK: When Donnie started doing this project, wasn't he already married? Where's Helen..
As I understand it, events from about the first halves of the second and third books will be shown this season, so it's not surprising that in order to slow down the events in Jules' hideout, they staged amnesia.
in short, she's like this: I don't remember anything. that is, 2 seasons before I watched nudnya just so that she would say I don't remember anything on the third season. Well, it's slag, of course. although the idea is interesting and it would be possible to make a very interesting dynamic series exploring a new world out of all this. here are the same mines that cannot be dug beyond 60 m. like try to find out what's there, etc.
@kladdenbuch: in the book, she immediately began to act and try to help Solo, and in fact, she did 1/3 of the book while we were told how it all started and introduced 2 more main characters. Therefore, the move with amnesia, which will slow down her activities a little and allow the story to unfold, seems to me very successful)
Charlotte and Jules didn't lose their memory So far, the book has only introduced Congress, the Senate, Donnie and Charlotte Charlotte realized from the trailer that it was her Just like I imagined - masculine and feminine at the same time A strong character
I spent half the episode remembering who's who. Then there was deja vu with the first season, these incomprehensible notes. Although the first season is my favorite. I still haven't read the book, it's boring
I take it the plane flew into a cloud of some kind of nano-stuff that decomposed everything into mold and fake honey? And then they'll probably destroy the world with this bullshit... at first I thought Jules had inhaled a lot of shit when she smashed her spacesuit and they were giving her pills. The head of IT could have come up with some plausible story that Jules should do, they know how to do it.
@Transmission: [id145555742:bp-172009266_1417|Anna], it seems to me that the pills were injected in order to connect them with Donny later, as he would also get confused later to regain his memory and do what he had to do..
@LouisloveHarry: Thank you, short and clear! I didn't want to read the books, because there are probably already a lot of inconsistencies with the series. But it's been interesting to find out the ending for a long time.
@g1586639: yes, there are more and more inconsistencies, it is not clear which way they are going, the line with Lucas has been removed altogether, although it is very important for the development of Juliet's personality
@LouisloveHarry: 50 bunkers with different stories (cool), it would be possible to mix up something like hundreds, where they end up starting a war with each other.
@g1586639: It is Lucas who begins to understand how the shelter system really works and who controls them. His knowledge helps Juliet understand the structure of bunkers and how to save people. After the events with Bernard, Lucas actually becomes a person who can control the information and technologies of Shelter-18, which means he influences the future of all residents. For Juliet, he gradually becomes not just an acquaintance, but the closest person and partner she trusts. In the books, their relationship develops into true love. In the finale of the trilogy, they act together and make decisions on which the fate of the survivors depends.
@g1586639: It was Lucas who "negotiated" with the first hiding place, Donnie (Troy). When Anna changed Thurman to Donnie after freezing, on the computer. Donny was pushing Lucas, revealing secrets to him. But Juliette didn't trust him. I thought they were being controlled again. There were decent bed scenes with Lucas, she had scenes with scars. In the series, she also seems to hide her scars. But then they will miraculously disappear) And only Lucas will notice it)
@g1586639: by the way, her father is also alive, he went straight to Semen in the final with everyone and Jules, and almost one of the first took off his helmet. Why it was removed is not clear. And they seem to have a warmer relationship in the book.
@g1586639: Lucas will die, in their hiding place, when Thurman returns, Donnie will be captured, and Ju's hiding place will be poisoned, but they dug a tunnel to Solo's hiding place in advance, as she wanted, who will have time to pass through it and they will be there for a while. Charlotte, meanwhile, is going to lose Donny, which unites her. Lucas will die in the server room from smoke / gas - the passage will not leave.
@g1586639: The remaining ones who go into hiding Solo, Charlotte will contact Jules by chance and tell the whole truth, because she and Donnie are also hiding. They'll be able to talk once. Charlotte will tell you about this seed. And they don't have much food there. And the desire to go outside will still overpower you to find out the truth. Well, they have nothing left to lose... In the end, they'll just trust Charlotte, believe her, come out, and it seems true. Later, while Donny is undermining 1 shelter, he will let her go outside in a suit (force her to leave). Since he's seriously ill there, he only has a couple of days left. He would sacrifice himself so that she would survive. She's going to go by seven, too. That's where he and Jultui will meet. What a happy ending)
As usual, it's very interesting, but it's too long...I hope the plot will spin faster this time! PS: is this trolling of the audience from the scriptwriters - the heroine doesn't remember and we don't remember?
And where was Lucas sent? He's in touch with 1 now... why is that woman suddenly talking to them? Bernard I put him in his place. In the room where everything is Books
Okay, at least they didn't pull the twist that they were stuffing her with pills, remembering the pace of season 2, I could have waited for this episode in the fifth as a PLOT TWIST. The only thing I don't understand yet is the dynamics of Sims and his wife, which one of them is in charge of this whole situation, on the one hand, he's always trying to be the shadow boss everywhere, on the other, she's still talking with a megamind.
I love the series, but I still remember the cons... So far, to be honest, the line of modernity is much more interesting than the line of shelter. Both from the point of view of lore and the picture (still, these corridors and stairs are a bit tiring). In the shelter itself, it's as if there will be an endless tinkering with Juliette's memory, which she will return at a critical moment in the finale and something from the congressman will play a role in the shelter... Honestly, as if the line with protest and "lies on the screen" was supposed to end after the end of last season, but it's here again, xs how much it will be interesting. It seems like there are only three books and the first one was stretched over two seasons, and the rest one at a time, so I really hope that this season will be a little faster (at least the quick disclosure of the twist with pills hints), but I'm afraid to hope much. Well, I hope we'll hear something more about the characters of the second season from another hiding place.
Shh, it was much better than you could tell from the trailer — it felt like she wouldn't remember anything at all for half a season, and it would be the same from episode to episode, like in the second season. And look, I've already started to remember something, and I realized that everything is not so simple! So, we hope for something cheerful!
P.S. And yes, people who have read books, can you please not spoil everything all the time? Well, or at least put a warning that there is a spoiler below. I'm like Jules — after two years of amnesia, I remembered why, unlike other series on this site, I stupidly stopped going into the comments on Silo. =(
@LouisloveHarry: It was also confusing at first, but then I remember one detail related to women, so they can beat that too. As I could without spoilers)
If you've read the books, tell me, Sims wasn't there much, I don't remember his wife or him at all. I wonder why they were added here? And a bunch more new characters (the girl from the supply chain). Weren't there any at all? Score time?
@LouisloveHarry: stop comparing two separate works already. Your verbal diarrhea above reads like "I read books and know everything in advance, but everything is not like in books!11!!!1!". I've also read books, but I can discuss the SERIES outside of the context of the books, because they're two different works. Forget about the fact that there are books in principle, the series is BASED on them, and does not accurately convey every line and plot twist. You've already watched two whole seasons without wondering why, because the first two seasons also have a lot of differences from the books. Take it easy and enjoy, without spoiling those who haven't read it. Treat the audience with respect. Here you can only spoilerize the content of a specific series that you are writing about in the discussions.
@LouisloveHarry: If you want to discuss a book, you can discuss it on a book forum. I've read it too, but I don't understand why spoil the intrigue for those who haven't read it. Your messages look like you want to tell everyone that you can read. Wow, I read the book, I can read. There are many who don't want to know the plot in advance, why are you writing spoilers? Get together with like-minded people and discuss the book where books are discussed, and here they are discussing the series.
@JardimFramboesa: In any case, when you enter the discussions, you should already understand that there will be spoilers. It's like going to the comments in the Lost and they're already writing about the finale in season 1. They asked me how it would end, and I replied)
@LouisloveHarry: No, there shouldn't be any spoilers about how it ends. Why compare a TV series from 20 years ago and a new series that has just been released, under the discussion of which you lay out how everything will end. But now everyone knows that you can read.
@JardimFramboesa: and why did they throw spoilers at the finale in the discussion from the outside, when the finale has not yet been released? I flipped through it, because I needed it, someone was reading it.
@LouisloveHarry: How would I know why someone was out there somewhere throwing spoilers? Apparently your like-minded people want to spoil people's high. Now we are talking specifically about you and how you are being carried here by the discussion of this series.
It seems like the series is normal, nothing out of the ordinary, but it was a bit boring to watch. Last season ended on a high note, with a fierce movement and it seemed that this one should continue those events, but here everything is kind of sluggish, everyday, plus new characters and events in the bunker that don't catch on yet. Surely, of course, the pace will accelerate later, but judging by the experience of previous seasons, you will have to wait a lot for this. It's especially funny to read the rave reviews from critics against this background .
And they came up with a pretty good idea, everyone was wondering how they would show the events in the bunker when the 2nd book of the Shift, this is a prequel. Yes, they will talk boring and slow again, but that's how it should be in the series, there's still a mountain of events. Smena, the best book of the entire trilogy, I'm looking forward to this season.
The fact that a parallel line was finally introduced in the past is a plus. But I keep thinking that it would have been better if they had started this last season, instead of this endless boring mess in the Shelter.
A normal start, just a flashback will dilute the slowness of what is happening in the bunker and the series will not stall as much as in the middle of the second season.
Favorite TV series. I hope the issue of amnesia will be resolved by episode 2-3. And there will be a movement. My wife and I were also sitting at the beginning, we didn't understand. The same part has already been forgotten. The comments recalled that Sims, his wife and child went into the "golden room" together, but only his wife was allowed to stay. The first episode didn't come out bad for me, it's sad that the next episode will have to wait a week. On the contrary, I want more of the bunker itself than what was "before".
@Maksim_kravchenko: it's going to be like this - she's been recovering from amnesia all season, in the last episode she says * I remembered something!* and the season is ending
I didn't like the idea of amnesia even when watching the trailer, but it doesn't seem to be that bad. The line with the past is also interesting, it will dilute the gray picture of the shelter.
First of all, I would like to say that for a long time I thought about where this music in the screensaver came from, and it only came to me now. It's similar to the music from the TV series "The world of the wild West" It's fun, of course)
And secondly, I'm already waiting and waiting for the moment when Juliet wakes up from her dream, and solve everything and everyone....)
I don't even know, some kind of double feelings. The first episodes of the first two seasons were spinning into a whirlwind. The same episode just passed. It's strange to see Juliette so... lost. So driven and driven. It's not about her!! Apparently it has been going on for 2 months, and she has taken minor resistance actions. I'm surprised by my friends and their reactions. Weren't they supposed to come to the rescue? To support or assist in memory recovery? Okay, let's look further.
It seemed that the new head of the supply department is the same actress as Muriel from Good Omens, but there is no information about this on the film search (but they are often late)
The move with memory loss was frustrating, of course, but it also added to my worries about gg
Thanks to the retelling of the seasons on YouTube, otherwise you won't even remember what happened in the second one. I hope my memory starts coming back quickly, I want more action.
It's cool, of course, that many people have read the books, but here's a discussion of the series for a second. The book can be discussed on other resources.
I am very glad to see the return of the series, I have been waiting for more than a year, it seems! But damn, losing five minutes is such a setback.... I hope they won't delay this for a long time! I wonder how the guys are doing in the other bunker. I wonder if they will be shown again?
The beginning is powerful! However, there are traditionally high expectations from this series) It's great that Juliette was made mayor, but it's bad that she was brainwashed, and now it's like in one famous movie - "I remember here, I don't remember here." And where did the second bunker at number 18 go, or what was it? Solo or whoever else was there, what's wrong with them?
The secret message in the soup is just 5 points 👏 Bravo, and the spy vibes have arrived. Oh, who put up a banner about lying on the screen, but they are clearly fighting for the right cause, well done. Not like some people on airplanes, although I don't like to get into geopolitics, but this agenda has been shoved into TV shows for years. The fact that Bernard survived in the airlock, and then he was killed, in general, is not so important. He was still that weirdo with the letter M and pretty infuriated the past 2 seasons.
It's interesting, of course, what kind of substance was sprayed in the air, which even disabled the fighters. Antimatter, damn it)) Maybe they poisoned the planet with this crap? Although who knows, I hope they'll tell you more. Fortunately, now there are enough flashbacks from the time before the disaster, so it will definitely be interesting.
P.S. That feeling when both Paradise and Shelter/Bunker come out in one year)
@6o4ka: what kind of right cause are those who write about lies on the screen fighting for? That poster is literally a riot that killed a nearby bunker. Everyone believed that it was a lie on the screen, and rushed out of the bunker, where in the end everyone dried up to dust, and then Jules walked through their bones when she was escaping from the cleanup. This is not a just cause, but ruin.
Logically, Juliet should have been slammed next to Bernard and told everyone that they were both burned, which would have been easier than stuffing her with pills and shaking because she was remembering something.
How did clever Camilla fall for a butcher like Sims in the first place? He looks like a leather jacket salesman from Sadovoda, doesn't shine with brains, likes to kill and torture old women, and when a more or less strong rival appears, he immediately hides in diapers or behind his wife. Why would Camille, with her brain, need this miracle?
In general, it's funny how the girl who controls everything is so reminiscent of season 4 of The World of the Wild West. When The World of the Wild West was released, it all seemed like some kind of technophobic future, but now it seems more or less inevitable.
@caitlyn_kiramman: I think it would be inappropriate to discuss this series here, but despite the fact that seasons 1 and 4 seem to be different series altogether, I believe that if season 4 had been released in 2024-2025, it would have been discussed much more with this superintelligent (or not) the AI that controls everything.
@mixer1701: appropriate. AI is now being actively introduced into the defense industry, billionaires are building bunkers, so there's a lot of fun ahead of us.
Like this...The second episode hasn't been released yet, but it's already available to watch...well hackers, well AI)) I am waiting for the world's first AI-generated series, where the plot will be determined by the audience through their theories - everything will be logical and harmonious!
@mixer1701: and when I looked at the review for previous seasons, I saw that Karen from the office played the Sheriff's wife. It's funny, because I had my first acquaintance with the actress right here, then the CHZ, and then the office, and that's it, I got a foothold like Karen)
A few(!) It's a jarring moment that Jules with amnesia (which, as we learn, is not amnesia at all) was made mayor, but this fragment is missing. And Sims is her puppet master, which is obvious to others.… So far, the line of the past or the present (the war in Iran) looks more interesting.
The authors of the series clearly have their own very special vision of the development of all this, because there are practically no parallels with the book anymore, and they are deliberately complicating their lives so that they cannot even try to follow the book rails. And even though the plot is stalling somehow, even now I am very, very interested in how the plot will be resolved in the end :D Hooray, intrigue!
@Kentavr: the authors do everything right for the current realities. Science fiction writers at the time, when they were writing books, could not even think that this was the reality of the future. But here, instead of books, through movies and TV series, they serve pieces of the truth about what awaits us and how control works.
@Tartugec: No, it's not, it's a 2011+ book, everything is completely fresh. The authors of the series don't change anything "real-life", they just change the plot. For example, changing the gender of a character that is important to the plot without replacing or introducing another character is not a reality of the future. That is, everything that is conventionally "technological" shown in the series is also in the book, one way or another, they do not change this, or they do not change it somehow radically, preserving if not the letter, then at least the spirit and essence of the idea.
@Kentavr: The author of the book is involved in the filming and he is IN favor of changing the plot of the book, but they want to reduce the ending to 1. Let's see what happens. The main thing is not to spoil it + politics does not interfere . The USA can 't show it in a bad way , of course ..
I watched two episodes. It's like my memory has been erased and they're trying to remind me who's who and what the series is about. I thought it would be action packed and she would tell everyone the truth. In fact, we're just looking at amnesia and the history of pill creation and control methods in parallel. AI rules everything clearly.
@Tartugec: The backstory is needed in order to introduce the characters who will eventually be the main ones at the end. The backstory reveals the characters, shows their character and thinking, so that it would be clear why they would eventually make certain decisions later, but it's slow. They show individual moments, the fundamental ones from which the history of bunkers began, and you need to know them in order to understand why they were created and for what purpose. No need to wait for the action in the series, which in fact belongs to psychological fiction. This series of books, and the series itself, are not based on action, but on showing how society has been living in a confined space for centuries, and how a small spark of hope and interest can ignite the flames of rebellion.. These books are about how a bunch of people thought they could retrain people, make them compliant and manageable, but eventually realized that this was not possible. Because there will always be someone who asks a little more than necessary))) And by the way, in the second part of the book, many answers and characteristics were given to at least one person - psychiatrist Victor))) It was the episodes with the psychiatrist that immediately answered the question of why the bunkers were created, even wrongly, in these episodes they showed the logic of thinking of the person who created the concept of bunkers and the charter. )) The main thing to remember about this moment is where is the thread at the end of the season when everyone will be asking this question)))
It is interesting to observe the dynamics of Donald and Charlotte's relationship as brother and sister. The actors are just exactly matched. It's funny how they tease each other like kids)
I won't repeat the mistake with the second season — I watched the episodes by release date, it seemed that the series was delayed. But the people in the comments advised to watch in one gulp.
I'll try this with the third season, let me wait 2 months for it to be fully released, but I'll get high from binge watching.
@LouisloveHarry: Dragon money is a terrible voice acting, don't be fooled. Cutting and TVshows are usually cool, Lost takes longer to make, and without matyukov
The mayor is from the working class, giving all power to the Soviets. Except it's all a puppet show, but it's much better. I immediately thought that Jules had been pumped up with something, so that this topic with amnesia would not be forgotten until the end of the season.
I don't really like that "airtime" is spent on prehistory.
It would be nice to talk about how the bunkers were built, why such rules/pacts were introduced, or something that would reveal life in the bunker. But the story about Iran seems so far from the main plot, and so predictable (everything will end in big BANG), that I don't even really want to delve into it.
However, if they somehow elegantly steer towards the main plot (there are already parallels with amnesia), then it will be cool.
I really liked the beginning, I really wish we hadn't stretched Santa Barbara's memory for half a season. As it is, everything is going great so far. By the way, I'm interested in whether there were dogs in the original, too, because this moment surprised me a little))
@Lan: there were dogs, but few. They were considered useless creatures that only eat and shit. Few people had it for themselves just like that. Miners and workers drowned them as puppies, and who didn't drown them... They were... food for people from the lower floors. Tents were set up in the market and they were fried and sold. After all, they bought it... It was all described in book 3. And this is not some kind of spoiler, they definitely won't show it.
The worst plot moves from the TV series of the noughties with fake amnesia went into action😴 Why is everyone calmly watching the Sims mess with go and not really doing anything for three months? Is it radiation sickness on the neck or vitamin side effects? 😁
As I understand it, nanorobots destroy/affect a person's memory if they happen to be alive. This happened to both Jules and the congressman's sister (when she took a certain viscous mass in her hand). Jules continues to be pumped with nanorobots, giving her pills with them. What happens next in the story with the congressman's sister is already getting interesting.
What kind of joke is this? I turned on the first episode, a woman is sitting on a bench and a man is sitting on a bench and a woman is insulting a man, calling him a pig, talking there sucked a lot today, who wrote the script?
Well, what can I say, the worst scenario decisions and the worst TV shows are those who introduce the past, the future, amnesia, some flashbacks and so on, and such a series is hiding. An outright bad series that kills the pace every season.
That is, we are waiting for the first season for something to happen, we are waiting for the second season, and we will also wait for the third season. Every season kind of starts over, there is no development. Everything goes in a circle.
The beginning - > despondency -> cliffhanger
It's already starting to get annoying, it's just dragging out time, as well as the same thing from the outside.
The series has one plus, literally one - Rebecca Ferguson is one of the most beautiful women in the world.
The whole point of watching the series is gone🤦♂️😁😁normal people would immediately ask how are you, how did you get back, where were you, is it possible to live there😂😂but the stupid bitch Amers just clap it's not clear why🤦♂️😁
I barely finished half of it, it's going hard. Amnesia? Seriously? Is that santabarbara? And then, at what point did it become a series about a congressman, a bunch of women around him (no, seriously, did he even talk to a man in the series?) And the bombing of Iran? Why is that even necessary? Why in such a volume? It seems that the authors have completely written themselves out
@funnypennywise: amnesia, separation of personality and time travel for me are twists that already make you want to spit, unless the plot is based on them first.
@kiprian_zhurov: amnesia is too cliched a movie, stretching an already stretched plot. Time travel was well beaten in the Dark, to the separation of personality in the opposite direction
@funnypennywise: well, in the darkness, it was originally that the story began with time travel in essence, and not suddenly introduced in the third season)
I'm like Jules-I don't remember anything either, but I remember for sure that I didn't have amnesia. In my opinion, I never finished reading the third book, so I don't know the full ending, but I know that there should have been a backstory. Still, it feels like there's been such a leap between the seasons.
I didn't like the local Jigan, and I still don't like it. Neither a character nor an actor. I hope that the amnesia will not be delayed for half a season, somehow Jules will regain her memory faster.
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224, I pay a lot of attention to the thoughts of the characters, but there may be few chapters where almost nothing happens, dialogues, and then events suddenly unfold, it becomes interesting, and you're blown away by what's happening. Definitely worth it. It's a bit like separation. It's also terribly boring at first, you fall asleep, the main thing is to wait out a couple of episodes, and then you stick to the screen.
As it is, I am very happy to see the return of one of my 3 favorite TV series of the 20s.
For most of the series, they remind you who's who.
The line of modernity is really interesting.
Nothing is really clear about the Shelter yet.
Don't you wonder how someone who doesn't remember anything could be appointed MAYOR?!
I'm more than sure, in any society, she would have said something like "you're a heroine, while you recover, and as soon as you remember everything, we'll make you mayor."
In my opinion, it is quite logical that she, as the ideological leader who saved the shelter after the riot, was appointed mayor. They literally rebelled against the authorities and they needed to believe in something, or in this case, in someone.
The memory is jammed intentionally, which makes it convenient for the top. But its exit to the outside and, in general, resistance to the foundations are located by the lower strata. It's convenient and comfortable for everyone to have her.
He'll remember everything now, and then it'll be really interesting. The main thing is that the resistance does not come out of hiding earlier.
I'm talking about the nominal head of the silo. After the overthrow of the previous government, people needed someone they trusted — Juliet. At the same time, we are directly shown that the silo is part of a much larger system.
Juliet was convenient for everyone, both for those who staged and for those for whom they staged (the people). They'll tell you who else is up there, and what kind of memory phenomenon it is, too. These are the main questions of the season now — there are a lot of episodes ahead, we will watch)
Just for the "their" disrespecting you
I hope I'm wrong.
"From the outside," as far as I'm concerned, it's a social media experiment in general.
I love it, even though it can be boring sometimes.
Well, how vile they were with Juliet, I wish she would send all these hypocrites and liars out. A cloud of oil? and who is this mysterious voice from the glowing remote control?? I support everyone above, it's all very interesting, if only Jules had enough episodes to uncover all the conspiracies and figure out the speaker from the remote control.
. It's strange that Helen wasn't introduced, will she be at all? TK: When Donnie started doing this project, wasn't he already married? Where's Helen..
it's funny that Donny was renamed Danny)
It's like watching a promo for a season
It's clear that he has amnesia, he doesn't remember anything, but the audience remembers something, it could have been more interesting to start
So far, the book has only introduced Congress, the Senate, Donnie and Charlotte
Charlotte realized from the trailer that it was her
Just like I imagined - masculine and feminine at the same time
A strong character
I still haven't read the book, it's boring
at first I thought Jules had inhaled a lot of shit when she smashed her spacesuit and they were giving her pills. The head of IT could have come up with some plausible story that Jules should do, they know how to do it.
After the events with Bernard, Lucas actually becomes a person who can control the information and technologies of Shelter-18, which means he influences the future of all residents.
For Juliet, he gradually becomes not just an acquaintance, but the closest person and partner she trusts. In the books, their relationship develops into true love.
In the finale of the trilogy, they act together and make decisions on which the fate of the survivors depends.
When Anna changed Thurman to Donnie after freezing, on the computer. Donny was pushing Lucas, revealing secrets to him. But Juliette didn't trust him. I thought they were being controlled again. There were decent bed scenes with Lucas, she had scenes with scars. In the series, she also seems to hide her scars. But then they will miraculously disappear) And only Lucas will notice it)
Lucas will die in the server room from smoke / gas - the passage will not leave.
PS: is this trolling of the audience from the scriptwriters - the heroine doesn't remember and we don't remember?
Like the gender will be changed or what))?
Bernard
I put him in his place.
In the room where everything is
Books
I love the series, but I still remember the cons... So far, to be honest, the line of modernity is much more interesting than the line of shelter. Both from the point of view of lore and the picture (still, these corridors and stairs are a bit tiring).
In the shelter itself, it's as if there will be an endless tinkering with Juliette's memory, which she will return at a critical moment in the finale and something from the congressman will play a role in the shelter...
Honestly, as if the line with protest and "lies on the screen" was supposed to end after the end of last season, but it's here again, xs how much it will be interesting.
It seems like there are only three books and the first one was stretched over two seasons, and the rest one at a time, so I really hope that this season will be a little faster (at least the quick disclosure of the twist with pills hints), but I'm afraid to hope much. Well, I hope we'll hear something more about the characters of the second season from another hiding place.
P.S. And yes, people who have read books, can you please not spoil everything all the time? Well, or at least put a warning that there is a spoiler below. I'm like Jules — after two years of amnesia, I remembered why, unlike other series on this site, I stupidly stopped going into the comments on Silo. =(
I've also read books, but I can discuss the SERIES outside of the context of the books, because they're two different works. Forget about the fact that there are books in principle, the series is BASED on them, and does not accurately convey every line and plot twist.
You've already watched two whole seasons without wondering why, because the first two seasons also have a lot of differences from the books. Take it easy and enjoy, without spoiling those who haven't read it. Treat the audience with respect. Here you can only spoilerize the content of a specific series that you are writing about in the discussions.
I would not like it to turn into a retelling of the first two.
Nice to see Jessica Brown Findlay.
It's fun, of course)
And secondly, I'm already waiting and waiting for the moment when Juliet wakes up from her dream, and solve everything and everyone....)
I love these intros.
It's strange to see Juliette so... lost. So driven and driven. It's not about her!! Apparently it has been going on for 2 months, and she has taken minor resistance actions.
I'm surprised by my friends and their reactions. Weren't they supposed to come to the rescue? To support or assist in memory recovery?
Okay, let's look further.
The move with memory loss was frustrating, of course, but it also added to my worries about gg
I hope my memory starts coming back quickly, I want more action.
I specifically watched the retellings on YouTube, but apparently we will remember with the main character together.🫠
It's great that Juliette was made mayor, but it's bad that she was brainwashed, and now it's like in one famous movie - "I remember here, I don't remember here." And where did the second bunker at number 18 go, or what was it? Solo or whoever else was there, what's wrong with them?
The secret message in the soup is just 5 points 👏 Bravo, and the spy vibes have arrived.
Oh, who put up a banner about lying on the screen, but they are clearly fighting for the right cause, well done. Not like some people on airplanes, although I don't like to get into geopolitics, but this agenda has been shoved into TV shows for years.
The fact that Bernard survived in the airlock, and then he was killed, in general, is not so important. He was still that weirdo with the letter M and pretty infuriated the past 2 seasons.
It's interesting, of course, what kind of substance was sprayed in the air, which even disabled the fighters. Antimatter, damn it))
Maybe they poisoned the planet with this crap?
Although who knows, I hope they'll tell you more. Fortunately, now there are enough flashbacks from the time before the disaster, so it will definitely be interesting.
P.S. That feeling when both Paradise and Shelter/Bunker come out in one year)
I am waiting for the world's first AI-generated series, where the plot will be determined by the audience through their theories - everything will be logical and harmonious!
It's so funny, the actress who plays the pilot's sister is forever Lena Crown from Brave New World for me).
In a romantic relationship or
Friendly?
So far, the line of the past or the present (the war in Iran) looks more interesting.
Hooray, intrigue!
That is, everything that is conventionally "technological" shown in the series is also in the book, one way or another, they do not change this, or they do not change it somehow radically, preserving if not the letter, then at least the spirit and essence of the idea.
I'll try this with the third season, let me wait 2 months for it to be fully released, but I'll get high from binge watching.
It would be nice to talk about how the bunkers were built, why such rules/pacts were introduced, or something that would reveal life in the bunker.
But the story about Iran seems so far from the main plot, and so predictable (everything will end in big BANG), that I don't even really want to delve into it.
However, if they somehow elegantly steer towards the main plot (there are already parallels with amnesia), then it will be cool.
By the way, I'm interested in whether there were dogs in the original, too, because this moment surprised me a little))
Why is everyone calmly watching the Sims mess with go and not really doing anything for three months?
Is it radiation sickness on the neck or vitamin side effects? 😁
Jules continues to be pumped with nanorobots, giving her pills with them. What happens next in the story with the congressman's sister is already getting interesting.
That is, we are waiting for the first season for something to happen, we are waiting for the second season, and we will also wait for the third season. Every season kind of starts over, there is no development. Everything goes in a circle.
The beginning - > despondency -> cliffhanger
It's already starting to get annoying, it's just dragging out time, as well as the same thing from the outside.
The series has one plus, literally one - Rebecca Ferguson is one of the most beautiful women in the world.
و سایلو با همین شروع شده :'(
Or is the series tailored to modernity?
It seems that the authors have completely written themselves out
I didn't like the local Jigan, and I still don't like it. Neither a character nor an actor.
I hope that the amnesia will not be delayed for half a season, somehow Jules will regain her memory faster.