s04e02 — The Griffin Incident

30 Jul 19:50 #

"It's just a haunted house in space" from the original Alien review.

30 Jul 19:51 #

All for the sake of David's prophecy, which is uttered by a descendant of Khan.

tyrell

30 Jul 20:46 #

how every shit usually happens

Рэйдан

30 Jul 22:14 #

The entire series is broken by the characters.The laws of common sense apply.
In general, the plot is quite predictable, but it was interesting to watch them.

porco

30 Jul 23:21 #

Well... So-so. It's too mediocre for a horror movie, too stupid for Star Trek.

kriptopsix

31 Jul 00:55 #

Even in Doctor Who there was no such horror, I don't understand why it's in a kind of SCIENCE fiction. If I wanted horror, I would have watched IT or Welcome to the Derby, but from Star trek new worlds I expect to see new worlds, not old ships with old ghosts.

miha_xxx

31 Jul 02:31 #

@kriptopsix: I don't recall Star Trek doing this at least once before, and it's really scary, not haunted.

31 Jul 02:54 #

@miha_xxx: literally every series in the franchise, including the original, had a couple of creep episodes in the style of popular horror films. So not for the first time, but rather traditionally. It's just a little out of color this time, so to speak).

miha_xxx

04 Aug 01:55 #

@Hidji: There was something like that, but I don't remember that such things hadn't been explained scientifically before.

04 Aug 04:45 #

@miha_xxx: In TOS, there were ghosts, magic, and much more without a scientific explanation. Three seven-season episodes can also boast of such plots, or with hints at the end of the episodes that the mysticism and devilry were true). So it's not new at all. Like with comedy series.

DIx37

31 Jul 02:52 #

@kriptopsix: Maybe I watched it at an earlier age, but weren't the angels more frightening, nparimer?

kriptopsix

31 Jul 13:07 #

@DIx37: It doesn't matter how, even the angels were explained scientifically, and not how it is here - it's just there and that's it.

31 Jul 11:53 #

@kriptopsix: Star Trek wasn't originally solid science fiction, but a "Twilight Zone" in space. We gave the team a chance to drive the scenery of a medieval castle - we're shooting a series about vampires. And now let's shoot an episode in the scenery of Chicago. And now about the space Nazis. And now about the earthly Nazis...

gkalian

31 Jul 02:36 #

As soon as the rest of the crew appeared on board, I immediately thought that it was all glitches. They started with a hint of something scary, but somehow ended up with nothing.

tyrell

31 Jul 11:10 #

I was more intrigued by La'an's theme, the last scene and other moments probably hint that La'an will continue to face his dark side.

demerteille

01 Aug 01:15 #

@tyrell: La'an is clearly being prepared for withdrawal from the series, because Spock must break up with her and unite with his only true love, Kirk))

tyrell

01 Aug 13:38 #

@demerteille:

vk1130758

03 Aug 19:48 #

@demerteille: Well, in the third episode, they're already friends and hugging 🤪

CommanderShally

31 Jul 19:42 #

well, they brought the creeps, damn it) in general, I was most interested in the mention of "division 12" in the whole series, which deals with just such inexplicable things as on Family Guy (Paramount and let's have a spinoff, lol). The way Laan said exactly how David would die was certainly beautiful (because that's exactly what happened). Actually, I really liked the way Kristina Chong played Laan's sliding attic here.

Lukrecia

31 Jul 20:36 #

I quite liked everything. Since I don't watch horror movies, the horror stories in the series made me feel creepy. To a more sophisticated viewer, what was happening might well have seemed boring, I do not argue.
Jim got a good beating: his brother "died", then he almost died, then in the end they don't pick up the phone. I hope he and Laan will have a good conversation later.
Most likely, Laan will go crazy further along the plot, but I hope they will show us more than that or they will not stretch over a bunch of episodes. Unless she suddenly becomes the antagonist of the season.
In general, I hope it will be good, but it won't be bad.

Da6kaz

31 Jul 22:53 #

I have a feeling that this series exists only and precisely as a promo/trailer/test for the Division 12 spinoff. The mention of which was repeated and artificial. Plus, this is literally only the second mention in the universe, and everything is exclusively inside the SNW.

01 Aug 20:29 #

@Da6kaz: Are there any rumors about a spin-off? Section 13, as I understand it, was bent only by the film.

Da6kaz

02 Aug 00:20 #

@iasra: No. It seems to me that this is an experiment by the creators - to throw such an idea very head-on (well, it's really been too often and one-sidedly repeated what division 12 is), look at the reaction of the fandom and decide whether to develop an idea or not.
This is what they do all the time in marketing and product development, and it's possible that this "pre-evaluation" method is also used in TV shows.

GreenSign

02 Aug 21:35 #

@Da6kaz: Star Trek is currently on hiatus, and it's very likely that it won't be there at all, and all the existing references were made in an era when sequels were still hoped for.

Kurtzman's contract is running out. Paramount's management has changed. No extensions, just cancellations. The series that managed to be filmed by the "pack" are being broadcast.

02 Aug 22:09 #

@GreenSign: How could there be none, when just a month ago I read about the extension of the Dutton Ranch? And now there's a story about the "Clueless" in the news, although that's not really the point. But about Kurtzman, yes, there is no news and the rumors are not encouraging.

GreenSign

03 Aug 10:27 #

@Hidji: not a single Star Trek extension, not a single production launch.

If they also dismantle the scenery of the series (on which they wanted to shoot "The First Year" with Wesley), then everything is gone.

There is news that they want a relaunch with a new feature film.

04 Aug 12:09 #

@GreenSign: Wow, it's really sad, in recent years this is one of the few good science fiction...

Fungi_master

01 Aug 00:34 #

Overall, I'm positively impressed with the series. I wasn't scared, but I could feel the tension.
I do not agree that this series is not at all in the style of the franchise. Not every event should be explained by science in a single episode. Just imagine how many scientists it takes to sort out all the phenomena that Star Trek starship crews have unearthed over several centuries. That ancient sphere is the archive from Discovery, the Dyson sphere from TNG, and so on. And there are plenty of creepy episodes in Doctor Who.
It's funny that Spock's main love is logic, not girls.🤭

01 Aug 16:45 #

I'm reading the comments, I can't figure it out, I watched another episode. It was a comedy series about a vacation. What the?? When investigating with the help of Gemini, it turned out that I had watched episode 3. At the same time, attention, I watched it in the voice acting of Amedia, on hd-cutting. That is, someone leaked the series earlier, they were announced in advance, and posted the wrong series) in short, I'm going to look for the 2nd series, I have a bonus today)

01 Aug 16:48 #

@iasra: I add, on the same cutting, the kolfilm series, judging by the beginning, is correct. I wonder if Amedia will be fixed?) and how much will they have time to see in advance) who managed it, enjoy it)

juliahayes

02 Aug 19:34 #

@iasra: Kinopoisk messed up too. I didn't understand at first why everyone was talking about horror)))

hellmouse

01 Aug 20:44 #

Who's going to tell me about Griffin? I definitely remember him being mentioned in other Tracks. Or do I have a mental fog too?

04 Aug 10:04 #

@hellmouse: You're probably thinking about another ship lost in the depths of space, a not-so-rare trope in Star Trek. On Memory Alpha, the article about the ship contains only this series.

SchwarzwalDem

01 Aug 20:45 #

A cheerful start to the season, I hope the next episodes won't let you down either)

Калисто

02 Aug 00:56 #

It's not a bad horror movie. And I even liked that they didn't invent any "quick" explanation. They kept the intrigue alive. If this is probing the ground before launching the spinoff, let them know, I'm all for it.

Vilgelmster

02 Aug 02:00 #

the best episode of the season so far (or even the last two). It's a pity they didn't explain it, but it's an excellent space horror according to all the laws of the genre.

Aliks8

02 Aug 11:51 #

On the one hand, it's inappropriate, or rather, the style of a horror movie. There are too many predictable things. Literally from the beginning. On the other hand, the series is interesting in small details. They can play a role in the future.
I think the series is primarily about Laan.

trycatchfinally

02 Aug 18:28 #

They divorced Solaris and Dead Space

Калисто

02 Aug 21:21 #

By the way, a funny fact. When they enter the elevator, they do not grab the handles, but simply give a voice command. Not like in CBT. In the anniversary episode of GC9, a couple of good jokes were built on this design feature. Just a remark.

AVATARA1

03 Aug 04:28 #

But I still haven't eaten the cookies...

vk1130758

03 Aug 19:30 #

In the third episode, Laan is quite normal. They even posted it on Kinopoisk by mistake, and I already watched it on Thursday. And now it's been replaced with a second one. The question is, where did they get it😂

03 Aug 19:44 #

@vk1130758: they have a license. Pirate studios announce this on the day of the series' release and post it with a delay of up to several days (usually a matter of quality: the better, the later). And the official distributors are provided with the entire season in advance for dubbing, so that they can upload simultaneously with the world premiere.

vk1130758

03 Aug 19:46 #

@Hidji: Didn't we have a fight with them? It seems that officially we should not have premieres.