Nakhon so carefully covered Phatsu with a plaid. She hugs him like that, buries her face in his hair and neck.
And how defenseless and sad Phatsa looks at this moment. He feels trapped by fate. The trap of fate is only a partial truth. There is another truth: next to Phatsa is Nakhon, who loves him and takes care of him.
Looking at such a Phatsu, my maternal instinct wakes up. I want to hug him so much and give him at least a piece of the love he craves so much.
Nakhon made such a cozy, comfortable nest out of his clothes soaked in pheromones for their baby's Phats, provided them with the most necessary things. Well, he's so caring and happy.
It turned out to be such a warm and tremulous moment. It warms my soul.π€
His father seemed to have fallen out of this reality himself: he knew what it felt like to be bitten by someone else's alpha, he knew how he was vomiting from the inside out from pain and hormones... and he didn't even think to warn his son. He didn't save his wife, he abandoned his son to the mercy of fate. So much for the "father of the year".
@InnSight: But what about: "I left you because you look like your mother"β¦ wtf π΅βπ« And how did he keep an eye on him from so far away that he missed the mark... he walked too far away and didn't see it That's really the daddy of the year
@HaiLouYin: yes))) It's good to have a place to revel in your immorality. I've already reviewed this language 15 times, well, that's cool!! And very organically, it is clear that the boys are not shy)))
I've had a lot of these GIFs deleted. Then I contacted the support group and asked why. They replied that such depraved gifs are prohibited in reviews of bl lacorns, because they do not want verification and serious problems, they had something like that there, they received warnings. Because such a thing is being prosecuted in the Russian Federation.
That's why they delete such GIFs to avoid problems, and they said they were working to ban GIFs of such explicit content. In the meantime, a ban has not yet been established, access to reviews in blacorns in Russia is blocked, only through VPN is possible. Something like that.
But I was told that they were checking the blacks to avoid problems, as depraved GIFs pose a serious threat. How did they put it: "neither we nor you want our platform to be shut down because of problems, try to add something less compromising."
@InnSight: @Oxky_Moon @HaiLouYin, I feel sorry for Phatsa's father.
He was trying to save his son. And he hid the Omegavers world from Phatsa precisely because he saw how this very Omegavers broke and destroyed his beloved wife. It was the only available (albeit desperate) way for him to try to raise his son as an ordinary person. My father did not know that Phatsa was an Omega and sincerely believed that his mother's fate would pass him by.
And the father's departure is not just "abandoning his son," it is a deep psychological trauma. Looking at his son every day, who grew up to be an exact replica of his dead wife, was a daily torture for him and a reminder of his own impotence in front of the higher powers of this world.
Yes, he made a mistake, was cowardly and left. But we saw his sincere remorse and tears. He admitted his guilt. And his "watching from afar" is an attempt to be close without hurting his son with his pain. And his drama as a father who is left alone with the laws of nature is truly heartbreaking.
@NastyaM999: injury or not, it does not negate responsibility to one's own child.
The woman held on to her love for him to the last, did not want to leave her family, fought with her instincts and was ready to die just to stay close. She entrusted her loved one with the most precious and vulnerable thing they had, their child. A child who became a natural extension of their love. And after her death, it was the father's responsibility to raise his son in care and safety. In real safety, not in escape. She had endured the physical pain and the struggle with her own instincts, and he couldn't handle the guilt. π€·πΌβοΈ
Yes, he was scared. Yes, he was plagued by guilt. But the trauma he has experienced explains his condition, and does not justify the act. A child should not pay for the pain and mistakes of an adult
My father knew how cruel this world was to omegas without a mark. His hopes that his son will turn out to be an alpha are too weak an excuse. As a result, the child was left alone to figure out what was happening to him, why it was happening, and how to live in a world that no one had told him anything about.
If I were this woman who gave her life for a man and entrusted him with the most valuable thing she had, I would be deeply disappointed in him. It's hard for me to imagine that she would want exactly such a fate for her son. Phat was lucky that the right alpha managed to tag him. If it had been some freak from the alley, no amount of crying would have changed anything. The father actually left his son alone with the risk of repeating the fate of his own mother
He might cry the whole Pacific Ocean now, but in my eyes, as a father, he screwed up big time. Remorse is wonderful. But it does not arouse sympathy in me and cannot outweigh the fact that he left his own child alone with the very world that he was once afraid of himself.
@InnSight: What kind of analysis? In this world of Omegavers, Phatsa's Omega development was latent, late, and manifested only in adulthood after hormonal adjustment. Before that, he grew up and looked like an ordinary person. What kind of analysis should have been done in childhood, if the nature of Omegavers was asleep in Phatsa's childhood?
@NastyaM999: I don't recall anyone mentioning before that the analysis shows hormones only in adulthood. But the girl who came to their cafe was just worried that she would disappoint her parents if she did an analysis. Phat also answered her in such detail, as if he had acquired this knowledge for years instead of just two days.
And Phat's father told him that as a child he already knew how to control hormones/pheromones, and therefore he thought he was an alpha.
@HaiLouYin: Unfortunately, according to the strict Omegaverse canon, everything here fits into his ideal gloomy norms.
This fictional world is initially very harsh, in which people are broken through instincts, tags and hormones, making them suffer. Therefore, judging heroes and their mistakes by the standards of our ordinary, human world is not entirely correct β there are other, much more primitive and frightening laws at work.
And a person with deep psychological trauma, whose life and love were destroyed in cold blood by this system, would not be able to make adequate ideal and calculated decisions in any way.
Phatsa's father made a fatal mistake, succumbing to fear and grief, and most importantly, he admits it himself. I hope he will now be by his son's side and provide him with the love, warmth and protection that he deprived him of before.
@InnSight: You're right, the detail with the girl in the cafe is really interesting.
But in stories with a late or hidden awakening of the essence, it often happens that up to a certain age or severe stress, the hormonal background remains "dormant" or disguised.The father just fell into this mental trap: seeing that the child was physically stable and even suppressing some initial manifestations (which is why he mistook Phatsu for alpha), he calmly decided that Phatsu was safe and his mother's tragedy had definitely passed him by. This is the irony and drama of their fate β nature took its course too suddenly.
Let's see how the scriptwriters unfold this family drama next.
@InnSight: He wasn't brought into the storyline to be removed immediately. Obviously, he has his own mission here. This family drama was shown to us for a reason. So they will continue to develop it, and Phatsa's father clearly has a major role in the development of this drama.
@vera24: Theoretically, the analysis could be done, but it didn't make any sense. Since hormones are still unstable in childhood, the analysis could show an incorrect result.
Moreover, when Phatsa's manifestations were such that his father sincerely mistook him for a strong alpha, he simply had no thought of taking the child to the doctors and doing tests. Why check something you're already sure of? False confidence blinded my father, which is why he missed the moment.
@NastyaM999: Omegavers doesn't have a single rigid canon. When you look through a large number of different stories in this genre, you notice that each author builds his own system of rules. Therefore, it is not entirely correct to look for universal patterns between different works.
It's like trying to unify stories about vampires: someone burns in the sun, and someone glows; someone is afraid of garlic, and someone adds it to fried potatoes; someone needs to be personally invited into the house, and someone breaks in without knocking. It all depends on the author's imagination. The general idea is to drink blood, and everyone prescribes the details in their own way.
It's a similar story with abo. The same soulmates as here are not found in every story. A cruel world where people's instincts are literally broken is also just one of the possible authorial approaches that does not become a mandatory rule of the genre. Someone is building a real dystopia, and someone is using omegaverse only as a romantic setting. The same applies to labels: in some cases they cause physical pain, in others they work almost like a stamp in a passport, and in some stories they are not mentioned at all. It all depends on what kind of story a particular author wants to tell.
That is why the task of any author is to explain the rules of his own world in sufficient detail so that he does not have to look for explanations in other stories of this genre. Here, you have to figure out a lot yourself, based on your own reading experience.
And if we're talking about primitive instincts, then protecting your own child is one of the most basic. In the father's case, the human psychological trauma turned out to be stronger than this alpha instinct. And this is not about our human world anymore.
That's why it will be especially interesting for me to see Phat when he himself has a child. If my interpretation is correct, then I wouldn't be surprised if we see how his alpha will be ready to literally bite everyone's throats for the safety of his child. Such a contrast could have further emphasized what Phat himself lacked in childhood.
I'm not excluding Dad's injury from the equation. It's there. He may not have been able to think rationally after his wife's death, but he continued to function quite well. In his own words:
"...and most importantly, you controlled the pheromones, even though I didn't teach you that. That's why I thought you were an alpha, just like me."
That is, he knew that his son's secondary sex had already manifested itself. Yes, he wanted to protect the child from the truth about this world, but in order to determine the secondary sex, it is not necessary to tell him all the details. You could call it a routine blood test and make sure. Instead, the father drew a conclusion based on appearances and his own assumptions, although he could have received an accurate answer and been more circumspect.
As @InnSight noted, Phatu's children complained that they were afraid to take the test and disappoint their parents. So they make it for children. It is because of such gaps that we have to look for explanations ourselves and assume that Phat might have had some difficulties with this. Nowhere in the story is it explicitly mentioned that children's pheromones are unstable
In general, if the father continues to act and take care of his actions, then I will be able to assess how ready he is to be with his son, to take responsibility for his safety, and not just to apologize for his weakness.
I didn't want to comment on this episode in protest because James and Folk have no real development as a couple again.
But since the topic of fathers and children has come up... I can't keep quiet.
In theory, according to the law, both the earthly and the higher status of a parent imposes responsibility and it is no longer possible to just run around and freak out, as if a person were a loner. You can't say that I'm depressed and I'm going to look for myself, and you're a child, live as you want.
But that's the idea... but in fact, you always have to ask a lot of clarifying questions in each specific situation and take into account all the nuances and generally look at the psychotype of who the story is about.
If Phatsa's father understood that he was storming, literally shaking next to his son, then it's better to leave. I think he made the right decision then.
And the decision to appear now is also the right one. This is a case of "better late than never." It's been a long time. The pain of losing the woman he loved was at least a little dulled. He has gone his own way over the years, rethought a lot.
I myself am always at the forefront of condemning fathers who have abandoned children. And I perfectly understand those who criticize Phatsa's father, but still, each story must be analyzed individually.
Some people help in life by NOT interfering... If the father understood that his psyche was broken at that time and he would NOT be able to raise his son normally, he would either snap at him or, on the contrary, pathologically protect him from this world - limit his social circle, tightly control or something else, then it is better to leave.
There is nothing good about a child growing up next to a man who is all loose, all like a boiling kettle, now in tears, now in screams...
We once showed the son of our Soviet actress Natalia, I won'T give her last name, it's still NOT appropriate here. Anyone who is interested in the films of those years will understand who we are talking about.
Her son says, "Thank you so much to my mother for putting me completely in the care of my grandparents and showing up once a year. And I grew up with them as a normal, adequate person. If I had grown up with her, with her men, I do not know what would have happened to me at all. She tried to take me away when I was a teenager, so I never wanted to live with her. My sister interacted with her more than I did, so she suffered from mental trauma for the rest of her life. I'm so grateful that she didn't raise me, it's the best thing she's ever done for me."
Sometimes it's a great mercy if a parent leaves... if they're NOT meant to be a parent at all. Or if at that particular time the mental state was such that he simply could not give anything but psychosis to the child.
Specifically, Phatsa's father was NOT like this in life, but at that time he was in such a state that he could NOT adequately fulfill the duties of a parent. Perhaps staying close to his son would have led him to develop some kind of mental illness on a nervous basis and he would have been raised in a nervous, irritated environment, with a bunch of phobias. And Phatsa would be a completely different nutcase right now.
This is a rare case when you can forgive the father of a runaway. It's a one-in-a-million case.
@HaiLouYin: and I would also like to add this: the father justified himself by saying that he thought his son was an alpha. that's why he didn't tell him anything, hoping that everything would work out somehow.
but it seems to me that not only omega's life can be ruined because of ignorance. Yes, an omega can go outside, run into some scumbag, and after that his life will go downhill. but if his son is an alpha who knows nothing about hormones and how this world works, he can also go out, meet an omega or even several omegas and unknowingly commit something irreparable.
In general, the abo world is cruel. and it doesn't matter who his son is alpha or omega. In any case, not telling him how the world works seems like a very strange decision for his father.
The only option I could justify was if the father thought his son was a beta. then we can assume that he will not harm anyone and will not be involved in such situations himself. this option looks much more logical to me.
@HaiLouYin: I made a conclusion about the tests based on those omegavers that I read, they made it clear that hormones in childhood are unstable. Even a case was clearly described where a child was given a test, an analysis was done and it turned out to be incorrect, and already in adulthood everything fell into place.
And the Omegaverse aspect of "protecting your offspring" seriously made me think that Phatsa's father is not his biological father, at this level he would hardly have abandoned his son even if he was psychologically broken. What if Phatsa's biological father is the same strong Alpha who bit his mom and bonded with her? She had been with him for a while, and the instincts and hormones of such a connection were doing their job. Maybe this father of Phatsa raised him because he loved his mother, and then he couldn't stand it and ran away.
@Ayana85: Thank you for such a deep and honest look at this topic. I completely agree with you β it's impossible to judge unequivocally, because every situation is unique and requires an understanding of all the nuances.
Sometimes leaving is not just an escape, but a conscious choice of a person for the sake of the child and himself. Parental responsibility is not only to be close, but also not to harm, and sometimes you need to give space and time for this.
It's very valuable that you think about it so carefully and thoughtfully.π
@HaiLouYin: You write very emotionally and correctly from the point of view of human morality in our real world.
But your main mistake is that you persistently try to judge the biological dystopia "Node" according to the laws of the Family Code and modern psychology, completely ignoring the ENT of the series.
In the violent Omegaverse that is shown to us here, "the death of a couple is not just sadness and depression. This is the physiological and mental destruction of the surviving Alpha at a hormonal level, up to a fatal outcome. A part of his personality is literally being burned out."
Phat's father was physically unable to function as the "conscious parent" from the psychology booksβhis brain was crippled by the loss of omega. The fact that his crippled instinct gave him the decision to hide his son and rejoice that he was supposedly an "Alpha" (after all, Phat abnormally blocked other people's smells) was the maximum that the biology of a broken being in this world is capable of. He didn't "screw up as a human," he degraded as an Alpha due to loss of connection.
And most importantly, your phrase "Phatu was lucky that the right alpha managed to tag him" definitively proves that you are not reading the plot. In the world of the Node, Nakhon and Phat are a true soulmate couple. Their meeting, this very smell of kumquat ("quiet heat"), nesting with a shirt under the pillow and a tag is not "luck" or an accident. This is an inflexible biological law.
And no "freak from the alley," as you put it, could have done what Nakhon did, left a mark, because the body of a pure omega Phats responded only to its true Alpha, it would not have accepted another one.
You are looking for a domestic drama about negligent fatherhood here, and the creators of lakorn show us a story about how primitive instincts, marks and knots break and subjugate people. The biology of the genre rules here, not human morality.
@Daniell_Chik: Come on, this is complete nonsense! In the series, it was directly shown that any alpha can bite any omegaβ even with or without permission. The story of Phat's mom is direct proof of this: an alien alpha bit her, and a connection arose. Even if a homeless man from a back alley had bitten a pureβblooded omega, the result would have been the same. But they also said that not every pure alpha or omega meets his soulmate at all.
@InnSight: You're confusing two completely different mechanisms of this world: the usual violent bite (branding) and soulmates (true pureblood bonding). Please review the series more carefully, the creators of Lakorn have clearly drawn the line between them.
The tragedy of Phat's mother is just an example of violence against an omega without a label, it is the result of a stigma that created a murderous bond.
Any Alpha can actually physically bite an ordinary omega, imposing his will on her and ruining her life. But Phatsa is a pure omega, and this is a rare genetic status that is described as an anomaly in the series.
Pure omegas have the ability to completely block other people's pheromones and subdue them. An ordinary "alley bum" would not be able to bite, he simply would not be physically able to even approach Phatsa because the aura of a pure omega would simply crush him, as it was already shown in the series, using the example of Naphitch. It clearly showed how Phatsa almost ran over Naphitch Alpha with his pheromones, and they made it clear to us that other Alphas had no power over him. A pure omega is stronger and only his true pure Alpha can have power over him.
Phatsa's body accepted Nakhon precisely because Nakhon is a pureβblooded, dominant Alpha and his true mate. Their connection is not a random bite, it is the resonance of kumquat pheromones that Nakhon felt from a distance.
Your phrase that "not everyone meets a soulmate" is true, but it works against your own argument.
Yes, not everyone does. But Nakhon and Phatsa met each other. And that's why their connection was instantly activated.
Trying to reduce the unique, canonical biology of purebloods to the banal mechanics of bites is an indicator of very superficial viewing, where the viewer notices only the external action, but completely misses the inner ent of the story.
@Daniell_Chik: If the series itself leaves everything in the fog, is it possible to stigmatize others for a "superficial" look? And certainly being well-read in this genre does not give you the right to pour barbs and dislikes.
@InnSight: And also about mamk Phats, so that you can understand better.
You're missing the point of the pure omega tragedy. The violent stigma from someone else's Alpha became a deadly poison for her precisely because she was a pure omega and her body was genetically tuned only to her True One. An ordinary omega would have survived and obeyed, while a pure omega would have died from hormonal shock and rejection of other people's pheromones.
That is why no "homeless man from the alley" could have marked a Phatsu without a fatal outcome. Phatsa's body accepted Nakhon without biological rejection, launching nesting, only because Nakhon is its True Alpha. Nakhon didn't just bite him, their bodies entered into a genetic resonance.
@Daniell_Chik: So you said that a pure omega would not be able to allow the bite of an "alpha from the alley". How did it happen that pure omega mom could be bitten, and pure omega Phat couldn't let anyone else but a soulmate in?
It's not about being well-read or wanting to hurt anyone. It's about the usual spectator attention. Everything is laid out in the lacorn "Node", and there is no fog.
The authors of the series talk to the viewer through understandable details, hoping that the audience is following the plot, rather than watching it in the background.
The view is called "superficial" only when they try to explain the obvious plot hints with ordinary everyday logic from our real life, completely ignoring the laws of the fictional world.
No one is trying to offend anyone β it's just a fact: to understand the motives of the characters in this story, you need to look at the screen a little more closely.
Phatsa's mom was an ordinary pure omega. She was caught off guard in a moment of weakness (during estrus), when the control of instincts is turned off. And she didn't know how to defend herself.
And Phatsa's body is able to completely cover its odor and suppress other people's pheromones. He's a rare pure omega. Remember how his own alpha father told Phatsa that he was shocked by how much he controlled odors, and because of this he mistook his son for an alpha.
Mom was most likely caught off guard, and an ordinary alpha from a doorway would not even be able to approach Phatsa β Phatsa would simply crush him with his aura, again using the example of Naphitch. Only Nakhon could break through this protection, because he is his True Self.
The son became stronger than the mother in order to survive. If you watch the series carefully, it's completely understandable.
@Daniell_Chik: All these are not facts, but solid "most likely" and "maybe". The creators of the series should sort everything out themselves (which I don't see here), and not force viewers to assemble a puzzle from the comments.
@Daniell_Chik: I'm sorry to interrupt, I'm not strong in omegaverse, I don't have much to say here. But I would like to discuss the kumquat))) What does the elder and Phatsa have to do with it? The second brother smells like kumquat, and he gave it to his beta to smell so that he would understand how it smells. Is not it so? And now he smells like some kind of distillery unknown to me, as it was written in his description in the first episode.
@vera24: InnSight: "It turns out that the secret name "No. 3 - quiet heat" hides the smell of kumquat... It would also be nice to remember exactly how kumquat smells," wrote @LaFeeTioka.
She probably found out from the spoilers somewhere. Lakorn has a secret name, namely, "Number 3. Quiet Heat" was not specifically mentioned.
And now everything is clearly on the shelves.:
The name "silent heat" hides the smell of kumquat. But the very word "heat" in omegaverse refers exclusively to omegas. Alphas only have rut. This means that kumquat is the hidden scent of omega Phats, not some kind of alpha.
A classic mistake of an inattentive viewer: they saw Nakhin bring a citrus tree to Ongse, and immediately decided that kumquat was the smell of Nakhin. But this is a common false trail from the scriptwriters to confuse the characters within the plot!
The real fragrance of the main alpha (Nakhon), according to the official description, is "night distillery". And his scent of kumquat is hidden under the number 3, which is felt only by his omega.
One messed up biology and gave the alpha a "heat stroke" and fell for an intermediate plot trick with a tree and made far-reaching conclusions, and the second followed the same way.
Screenwriters force the viewer to think and compare details, but most people don't want to do that.
@InnSight: That's how the creators put everything clearly on the shelves and my facts based on watching lacorn.
If you are not "observing" anything, I advise you to carefully review everything once again and delve into every detail. In the future, do the same βlook carefully, not just at the surface picture, and then you will "observe" everything. π
@Daniell_Chik: Then what's the series' screen saver for? Also, what would confuse us? Was everyone given the wrong smells on purpose in the screensaver? Then why did Nakhin's best friend tell him with a grin that he smelled like rotten tangerines?
@Daniell_Chik: One minute you're saying they're putting us on the shelves, now you're saying that the scriptwriters are trying to confuse us on purpose. You yourself, it seems, did not look attentively, but only decided to get rid of it.
@Daniell_Chik: Actually, not a word was said that Phatsa's mom was a pure omega. She's just an omega. And his father is just an alpha. And there was nothing said about mom's heat either, that it was then that the left man bit her. And she died precisely because she rejected the connection with her head, as Phat did at the very beginning. It was not her body that rejected the connection with the wrong alpha, but her head that did not agree to this connection.
There are arguments about the broken alpha father due to the loss of his omega, but! As you yourself have written many times, there is a cruel omegaverse, everything is tied to the truth and so on. And Phatsa's parents, in fact, were connected by ordinary human love. The father did not darken the mother, did not form a bond with her, and nothing was said about their couple's soulmates either. It turns out that there is no such strong omegaverse component in their relationship. Like, yes, an alpha protects his omega, he loves her infinitely, some of his instincts work purely on this. But there is no deep connection between the pair. Therefore, the father 's anguish after the death of his beloved cannot be attributed purely to omegavers and the loss of his omega alpha π€·βοΈ
To be honest, lakorn didn't explain much about soulmates either. Besides the fact that they are meant for each other and that this is very, very rare. The very mechanism of their interaction was not much explained. Only that they can feel each other's pain. Everything else you've written about biting and letting someone else's alpha in on you would not be a pure omega β more an experience of reading omega-cross stories than situations from lacorn. There were strong pheromones of pure omega, capable of bending a simple alpha, but Phat did not know that he could release these pheromones from the beginning. In that particular case with Naphin, Phat already knew about pheromones and even imagined how they could be used. But at the moment when he was in heat at the very beginning and when he was most vulnerable, he acted purely on his physical human strength β if then some left alpha had managed to get close and bite him, I doubt that Phat would have been able to fight back. Even the statement about soulmates doesn't work here, because Phat didn't know anything about it at all and by that time Nakhon hadn't noticed. Since the phenomenon is very rare, they don't even think about it, that it will happen to you. Therefore, if Phat had not met Nakhon in that fight, but some other true alpha, that alpha could have calmly bitten Phat the same way. π€·βοΈ
@Daniell_Chik: It seems to me that you didn't look very carefully either... Pheromone Phatsa smells like rain. Everyone told him about it, including his own father) The pheromones of all the other characters were listed in the summaries that appeared on the screen in the first episode. Nakhin's second brother had a pheromone labeled "No. 3 -quiet fever." As @InnSight correctly noted, at first a friend joked about a rotten tangerine, and then Nakhin himself brought a kumquat tree to her and literally said, "I smell like this." You write that everything is clearly shown in lacorne, but for some reason you yourself have gone into strange theories and a "false trail from the scriptwriters"
@LaFeeTioka: second. It's still tangerine. Kumquat has a slightly oblong shape, but in fact it is also citrus, it has a less vivid aroma and taste. I've been eating for a long time, so I don't remember exactly.
@vera24: Well, the first one. Where did the information that the first one smells of kumquat come from is also unclear to me. One thing is clear, everyone looked through the ass to one degree or another)))
@vera24: Ooooh, thank you! I got it all mixed up. I admit, I made a mistake with my brothers. I was just confused with their identical names in the middle of the night. π The second pheromone is called "flower of the night." So this mysterious "flower of the night" smells like rotten tangerines and kumquats)
Then, moreover, neither the kumquats nor the "quiet heat" from the arguments of the respected @kiro4_konfetka and @Daniell_Chik have anything to do with Phatsa and Nakhon. Neither hidden nor open)) Purely related to the brothers of Nakhon , unless π
@vera24: The tree that Nakhin Ongse dragged looks like a kumquat. For tangerines, even tiny ones, the fruit is somehow too small and not particularly round... So the kumquat was just my guess.
@LaFeeTioka: I can't say here. Me and the garden are like +- in a magnet. If they point at cucumbers with foam at my mouth and tell me that they are eggplants, at some point I will agree that yes, eggplants are just underripe, apparently.
@LaFeeTioka: So where did you hear the concept of Number 3? It's interesting to find out. There was no mention of him in Lakorn. As it turned out, there is also no description.
@LaFeeTioka: It also seemed to me that the kumquat tree. But they didn't show it that closely, so I didn't even think about what kind of citrus there was.
@LaFeeTioka: Well, then we get that kumquat is the smell of Naphitch. Moreover, you have confused yourself and confused others. And Nakhin comes out has nothing to do with kumquat and number 3.
@-max_milkevich-: Well, I've already written about it above, thank you! And I didn't confuse anyone. It's just that one person decided to attribute kumquat and the name of the third brother's pheromone to other characters for some reason (calling me inattentive at the same time) and called it a "false trail of scriptwriters," and you can see for yourself what followed.
@LaFeeTioka: Phatsa's mom was a pure omega. Phatsa is a pure omega, and only a pure omega can give birth to a pure Omega and in no other way. Therefore, @Daniell_Chik's arguments about Phatsa's mother and her death and that Phatsa is stronger than her are true.
And he got confused about the pheromones with the smell of kumquat. You're confused about it too, and nothing. It happens to everyone. I don't understand why everyone is so mad at him. He's a human being just like us. None of us is an angel here, everyone can miss something when watching. And many of his arguments here are actually factual. Take the same pregnancy of Phatsa. We were shown the one hundred percent indisputable fact of nesting, peculiar only to pregnant omegas, when Phatsa kept Nakhon's shirt with his pheromones under his pillow. His hormonal background, which changes due to pregnancy and the unborn child, requires soothing alpha pheromones. And plus, another indisputable fact of pregnancy is the nausea of Phatsa. So most likely our bun Phats is pregnant. We'll see in the next episode.
And the man was talking about Nakhon pheromones when he mentioned the smell of kumquat, not pheromones of Phatsa. He meant, he thought that Nakhon pheromones smell like kumquat and Phatsa needs them, and not Phatsa himself has this smell.
@kiro4ka_konfetka: So you can write comments to one person saying, "I'm the only one right here, and you all misunderstood because you didn't look well," but you can't respond to everyone else? No one has eaten into him and no one is attacking him. He gives his arguments in support of his point of view, and I give my arguments in support of mine. The fact that our points of view do not coincide is a normal phenomenon. π€·βοΈ And what you see as indisputable facts, I see as forgery. That's all. I didn't see any nesting and wrote about it. If you've seen it, good. Nausea is also a stretch, because I threw up exactly once after that disgusting smoothie. I wouldn't put it down to pregnancy. If you think otherwise, the flag is in your hands. We'll just stick to our opinions and keep looking.
@LaFeeTioka: This is no offense, but all your arguments sound very stupid. Just read everything well. And so:
"And she died precisely because she rejected the connection with her head, as Phat did at the very beginning. It was not her body that rejected the connection with the wrong alpha, but her head that did not agree to this connection."
They explained that she died from someone else's mark, a brand that became poison and triggered a reaction in her body, which literally burned her entire body from the inside out and killed her. To say that she rejected the connection with her head is like saying that she was bitten by a cobra and the poison went through her body and kills the body, and she died because she rejected the bite with her head, but not from the venom of the snake that burned her. There is no comparison with Phatsa here at all. Phatsu was bitten by the true alpha, his soulmate, and his instinctive body was open to Nakhon, even if he subconsciously rejected it. And in the case of the mother, there was someone else's alpha and her body did not accept it, the vinegar of someone else's alpha became a poison for her body that killed her.
"And Phatsa's parents, in fact, were connected by ordinary human love." Alpha and omega can't just have ordinary human love. They still have instincts. This is an omegaverse, and it's also of animal origin, which we were made aware of in Lakorn, not the human world. Phatsa's parents were a couple, even though her father didn't tag her. They had an instinctive connection, which caused the alpha who lost his omega to go crazy, and his brain and entire body literally broke down from such a loss. If the alpha's body had not recovered from this, otherwise it would have threatened death in the truest sense of the word.
"Therefore, if Phat had not met Nakhon in that fight, but some other true alpha, that alpha could have easily bitten Phat the same way." That fight was at the end of the first episode, review the episode carefully and then you will see that at the time of that fight with the alphas, Phatsa was already in heat and at the same time his barrier protection worked. He should be vulnerable, but he didn't let any alphas near him, and before Nakhon appeared, on an instinctive level of protection, he had already scattered all the alphas, and this is precisely because Phatsa is a pure strong omega. And we saw and understood using your example that no other alpha can bite a Phatsu.
And if Phats is a pure omega, then his mother was also a pure omega. Only a pure omega can give birth to a pure omega, an ordinary omega cannot do this. An ordinary omega does not have pure blood, and indicators like Phat's are passed down from strong pureblood parents and their ancestors.
And now the most interesting thing: why did Phatsa weaken just before Nakhon? Because Nakhon is his true soulmate. Yes, Phatsa subconsciously did not understand this, but his body worked on the level of instincts, and against the call of his true alpha, the omega's body and body would not be able to resist. His body and instincts opened up to the truth. And Nakhon is the true alpha of Phatsa, and therefore only he was able to break through its protective barrier.
"there is no other true alpha" β there are no other true alphas. There is only one true soulmate, this is a kindred spirit and he is the only one. You don't even know the basic concept of true in omegaverse, what else can I say.
@Margaret_Sun: Hello, I'm going where I wasn't invited again))) I have a question, why did you decide that the mark made by the enemy of Phatsa's father is an unsuitable mark for her? Being pregnant with Phats, she decided to stay with her sorry fucker alpha, who knows that at any moment they can make a bite, leaves her unmarked. In a world like this, where you can get tagged by a pack of alphas in the middle of the street at once, is there any morality to think about? In the end, deciding to remain faithful, she condemns herself to death, because the bond has already been formed, let's remember how Phatsu and Nakhon broke. One almost knocked up the couch, the second glass. Based on your own (not only yours, I mean several commentators) logic, the mother is pure, respectively, the enemy is her true half, since only the true one can bite a pure (pregnant) omega. In the end, I'm leading to the fact that it wasn't the poison that killed the mother, but her denial of the connection. This was also clearly explained to us in the first episode. Let me remind you, I'm on vacation))) I'll send you as many screenshots as you want, please contact
@vera24: Vera, you probably didn't know yet, but in this world there is also a temporary bite, and a permanent one. And another stronger alpha can overbite an already bitten omega. But the scriptwriters don't tell us anything about it, like who can, who can't bite, and so on. As @HaiLouYin has already explained to us, there are a lot of variants of these stories and the scriptwriters can even come up with new details that the fandom did not know yet. But they don't want to, and that's why people are bending this series under all the laws at once. Well, the ones that are available on the Internet. And let the scriptwriters not tell us anything, here people themselves will set up theories without them. So the scriptwriters should be fired, and the money should be given to the guys, let them show us the languages.
@vera24: thank you! Thank you from the bottom of my heart!
I'm already pretty tired of this conversation, which really won't lead to anything. Therefore, dear @Margaret_Sun, I read everything honestly. I don't agree with you, but I don't see any point in discussing this further, and I just don't want to. I'll stick to my opinion, and you'll stick to yours. And let's leave it at that)
@InnSight: That's why I don't write anything beyond what I've seen, because this genre is unknown to me. I only have questions about what I've seen. I decided not to get to the bottom of everything here, as it probably looks like I'm really interested. It was like everyone was watching different TV shows. Of course, I can write it off as crooked subtitles, but for a long time there have been norms from the same libers. And personally, before I jump out, I go and look at controversial or incomprehensible points.
@vera24: I've already gone and reviewed the English subtitles, the rolls, and the libertas. What's said is said. The rest is all the speculation of "well-read" people.
@vera24: In the first episode, something completely different was "clearly" explained to us, and now you're just coming up with something that wasn't in lakorn.In the first episode, Phatse is not bad because he rejects someone with his head. He feels bad because he's in extreme heat (fever). His body was tormented by a wild hormonal surge of pure omega, not by "thoughts in his head." And as soon as Nakhon bit him, Phatse instantly felt better, the physical pain went away. His body accepted Nakhon right away because they were soulmates, soulmates, even though Phatsa hated him with his head.In Omegaverse, it's impossible to die because your "head doesn't agree." Phatsa's mother died of hormonal shock and exhaustion, because someone else's bite is a physiological poison for a Pure Omega. And another alpha couldn't bite a pregnant omega, in case that's what you meant, it doesn't work that way, because a pregnant omega already has a connection with an alpha, and even without a label, on an instinctive level.You're trying to turn the fantastic biology of instincts into ordinary human psychology and ascribe to the first series something that wasn't even there. Review the beginning of lacorn more carefully, without making up.
@InnSight: Well, they tell you that an alpha won't bite or bite a pure omega. A bite from someone else's alpha, not her alpha, would just kill her, as it was explained to us in lakorn, in a conversation between Phatsa and his father. The father made it clear to his son that if he had bitten his mother himself, someone else's alpha would not have been able to touch and bite her, and she would not have died from that alien brand. Which he now regrets for half his life.
And even more so in the case of Phatsa. He knows how to build a protective barrier against other people's alphas, and this was also made clear to us by Lacrne, in the first episode, in a fight with alphas, and moreover he was bitten by his true alpha, a mark that no alpha will definitely kill. So it doesn't matter here.
I don't understand how you can not see the omegaverse in omegaverse, and also compare it with the ordinary human world, if this lacorn omegaverse and the director and screenwriter clearly present all aspects of this omegaverse to us on a platter.
@InnSight: @LaFeeTioka: Sorry, ladies, I'm sorry that I offended you. I didn't think that the simple expressions "one" and "the other" would offend you so much. Or should I mention you by your first name and patronymic? So write them down and I'll be official with you. It's not a problem. Or let's break up altogether. It's even better this way.π
And I didn't catch anyone inattentive. I explained everything very clearly in the answers to this topic above.
@LaFeeTioka: "It turns out that the secret name "No. 3 - quiet heat" hides the smell of kumquat... It would also be nice to remember exactly what kumquat smells like." Aren't those your words? Didn't you yourself attribute the kumquat and the number 3 to Nakhin? You seem to have admitted your mistake in other reviews, and why would you still blame someone else if it was you who made the mistake.
@LaFeeTioka: You're right. The tree that Nakhin Ongse dragged is most likely a kumquat. At first I thought maybe it was a tangerine. But for a mandarin, the fruits will be clearly too small. Nakhon really smells like citrus. Maybe that kumquat. And he wanted to let everyone feel the approximate scent of his pheromones. He's Beta, and Beta doesn't smell pheromones.
*** And the "Quiet Heat"*** in the description of the third brother, Naphitch, is a description of the character and power of his dominant pheromones. It's not in heat, although omega fever is in heat. But Naphitch is the Alpha. And the Quiet heat is the hidden, deep, enveloping and hypnotizing male energy of his Alpha. It is the warmth of the campfire that warms omega, lures him and makes him obey. Now I hope the picture will be clearer. I'm sorry for getting into the discussion.
@Margaret_Sun: I get the impression that one of us is about Thomas, the other is about Yerema. What am I attributing? Where am I attributing? What am I turning into? I'm already confused, I've forgotten who's explaining what to whom, to be honest. So, what did I mean by: according to the folder, his already pregnant wife was bitten by some enemy of the folder. But she chose to stay with the alpha, who did not mark her, but preferred to live with her like ordinary people. Due to the fact that the connection has already been established, and she decided to stay with the alpha who did not bite her, she eventually died. That's exactly how I understood it. Here you are writing, based on the screenshot of your own answer, that only a soulmate can bite a pure omega, and only a pure omega can give birth directly. Okay, let's say our moral dad was like that for Phatsa's mom, they just decided to live without a piece, but HOW!! then her (being pregnant)could another alpha bite??? After all, based on your comment, is this only available to a soulmate??? And when I say the denial of connection, I don't mean in my head. And, the fact that she decided not to create and maintain this connection with the bitten one, but chose to live on instincts with the non-bitten one. Fuck knows, maybe I'm writing incomprehensibly, of course, but in my head I seem to be explaining everything logically)))
If anyone has something to say, I'd love to read it. Without sarcasm and jokes only. Personally, I have absolutely no goal to hurt or stab anyone. Well, what if I got everyone, and no one wants to mess with me, well))) I'll also be understanding. I'll open the window myself.
@vera24: I apologize for interfering. Phatse's father told me that his mother was bitten by an Alpha. But he didn't say that Alpha had given her vinegar when she was pregnant. It didn't happen.
And it is not possible to bite a pregnant Omega in any way, because she already has a connection with the Alpha father of the child, even without a label there is a connection. This once again confirms that Phatsa's mother could not have been marked pregnant. If the mark of someone else's alpha had killed her, then Phatsu could have killed her, too, if that had happened. He would not have been born and died with his mother. If the body of the mother, a pure Omega, did not accept the mark of someone else's Alpha and she died, it means that he is not her true one. And her true soulmate may have been Phatsa's father. And this once again explains why Phatsa's father broke down from the loss of his Omega. She was his true mate.
And what happens to true couples when one of them suffers, we saw with the example of Phatsa and Nakhon, when a piece of wood fell on Phatsa or when Nakhon was shot at. They could feel each other's pain. And they can die without each other, they made it clear to us. But they have a stronger bond because Nakhon tagged Phatsu. And they have such a strong bond because of the mark.
And if Phatsa's father had marked his mother, his Omega wife, they would have had the same bond as Nakhon and Phatsa. And if his Omega died, Phatsa Alpha's father could have died. But if it was he who marked her, then the other one would definitely not be able to break his mark.
If you add everything up along the chain, then everything turns out to be clear: Phatsa pure Omegaβpure Omega can only give birth to pure OmegaβPhatsa's mother pure OmegaβPhatsa's mother's body perceived someone else's mark as poison and she diedβPhatsa's mother's body did not accept someone else's mark, because this mark is not her true Alpha, soulmate, a kindred spiritβ if she was marked and killed by someone else's Alpha, then her real soulmate is her Alpha, her husband and Phatsa's fatherβif her Alpha had marked her, the other one would not have interrupted the mark, because the mark would have been her true Alpha.
The second chain: ** a pregnant Omega, especially from her Alpha, and it is already impossible to connect with herβ someone else's Alpha marked her later when the child was bornβthere was no way before pregnancy, someone else's mark was poison for her and her body was poisoned and weak, she would not have physically endured and would not have given birth to a child when she herself was dying**. If you know all the aspects of Omegaverse and look closely at the details in lacorn, then it's not difficult to put together such logical chains and figure everything out. Therefore, @Margaret_Sun's arguments are quite logical. It's not in her defense or anything. It's just that I myself, as an Omegaverse lover, have drawn conclusions from what I saw and put together chains of important links in my head. Here.
@vera24: I apologize. I remembered that my father had told Phatse that an alien Alpha, his enemy, had bitten his mother shortly before he was born. It's not long before pregnancy. He couldn't bite a pregnant Omega in any way.
There is another chain here: ** First, there was a tragic bite from someone else's Alphaβ after that (or in the process of these dramatic events), Phatsa's mother becomes pregnant by her legitimate partner (Phatsa's father) β she is struggling for life, I forgot when I wrote the previous chain that she is a pure Omega, which means her body is strongerβ she manages to carry a child, give birth to it, and only after that she dies from exhaustion and the effects of poisoning by someone else's mark. Now it's even more correct.
@vera24: You are wrong, as it were, in your conjectures. I wanted to put everything on the shelves, but I didn't have time. This has already been done here. Reread what was answered to you and you will understand everything. No offense to the dislike. This is not a stone in your garden, but a simple disagreement. Your arguments are not correct. I don't have any sarcasm in your direction. And you haven't hurt me personally. π
@NastyaM999: even I was not too lazy to review the moment of the story from the father of all events, and I am a very lazy person. And the father says with his mouth that he found out that his omega was pregnant, was happy, but before the birth of Phatsa, his mother was bitten by the enemy alpha. So they bit her pregnant. Well, he also said that the mother resisted this connection, and the more she resisted, the more her body suffered. So again, the problem is not the bite itself by the wrong alpha, but the fact that the omega did not want to acknowledge this connection and left the alpha who marked her.
@PandaIT: I'm sorry about the beginning of their conversation, I didn't remember it. I reviewed and checked it. Yes, Phatsa's mom was pregnant.
Then there's another chain here: The absence of the true mark of her Alpha, her Alpha husband, who bit her, he is of the highest rank, and Phatsa's father, as we know, was an ordinary Alpha bite not long before giving birthβthe venomous bite did not have time to affect the child in such a time, because it first affected his motherβ the mother resisted not only subconsciously On an instinctive level, her body rejected someone else's mark, reacted to it like poison, she held on with her last strength and managed to give birthβand then died. Is it clear now? It couldn't have been clearer, it seemed. Here.
@NastyaM999: Why is the bite poisonous? It's a regular bite, like other alphas and omegas. It's just that the mother didn't stay with the alpha who marked her, but returned to Phatsa's father. If she had stayed with the alpha who marked her, then she would have quietly lived on with this connection. But she decided to resist, which her body couldn't stand. Back in the second episode, when Phatse was told about the omegaverse world, he was told that omega and alpha, who had just formed a bond, should not be separated, because symptoms of some kind of bond fever could begin, which is very painful and can sometimes lead to death (which apparently happened to Phatse's mother). That's actually why they dragged him into the house and are holding him.
@PandaIT: Yes, they've been telling you all about it. For a pure Omega, the bite of an Alpha that is not venomous is a brand that kills the Omega, not an ordinary mark.
The body of a pure Omega can only accept its true Alpha and his mark, this is due to instincts. The non-perception of other people's marks in pure Omegas is also conditioned by the body at the level of instinct. If a pure Omega is bitten by someone else's Alpha, not her true one, the Omega's body perceives this bite as poison! Did you get it now?
Don't forget that we're watching Omegavers, and the world of Omegavers is always driven by instincts, especially since it was made clear here at Lacorn that the origin of this Omegaverse is also from the animal kingdom, and animals are definitely based on instincts.
There are tons of comments on this topic and you haven't read or assimilated any of them properly. And you give out such nonsense.
@Tanechka012: I only wrote what the characters themselves said in the series with their mouths. And just the opposite, some commentators, experts in omegaverse, come up with something themselves that was not in the plot. There was no mention anywhere that Phatsa's father was his mother's true alpha. And it never seemed to be mentioned in the series that the bite of an untrue alpha is poisonous to a pure omega. If you're wrong, tell me the serial number, and I'll review it. It just seems that someone here came up with it, and the rest supported it. Each author comes up with his own omegaverse and his own rules there. It doesn't make any sense to stretch what happened in other stories onto this one. And that's exactly what's happening in the comments right now.
And by the way, the fact that Phatsa's mom is pure omega is, again, an idea of the commentators, it was not mentioned in the series. Somehow, Phatsa's father didn't say "Oh, just like your mom" when he heard that he was a pure omega. It was only said that an ordinary omega couldn't give birth to an enigma, but it wasn't said that she couldn't give birth to a pure omega.
Nastya, thank you for the most detailed analysis of the plot (once again). You can't say it better, everything is clear, everything is clear
People who rarely leave comments write reviews here, and I read them with interest.
If there were awards / pictures here like on a FicBook, I would definitely find someone to reward... you, of course. Daniel, to whom thanks for an amazing conversation about omegaverse! And some other people who rarely appear in reviews, but aptly))
I think "Knot" has already won the nomination this year - the bl series with the hottest, even heated comments.
@Margaret_Sun: "No offense to dislike. This is not a stone in your garden... " Yes, but what if it's not a stone? A brick? A lump?
Although disliking is more often an assessment of a comment rather than a personality, but if the tone of communication is already tense, disliking looks like adding oil to the fire and is perceived as disrespectful.
When a dislike is given massively or purposefully to one author, it is already a form of pressure and definitely unethical.
@PandaIT: Yes, because that's what they like to think, it's probably romantic, or I don't know why. They write to us from Thai into Russian. Bitten, a bond formed. But she decided to stay with the one she loves and died. And she died because she didn't exchange pheromones like phatsa and nakhon. Phatsa also tried to solve the problem with a stake in the ass at first and almost moved the horses until nakhon came and rubbed him against himself. According to their logic, then the bite of nakhin poisoned him, he was dying there, of course, on the couch.
@vera24: How is it concluded that she was poisoned? Explain it to me? According to your logic, is Phats poisoned too? The mother died because she refused to rub her pistils and stamens and exchange pheromones. God, I'm not even interested in this series as much as I spend time on it. I just wanted to watch the boys fuck, but I got involved in hell.
@tinkergo: Ahh, yes, we're going to take the exam. There are so many theories and details in the omegavers fandom that it feels like you're studying an entire discipline. But this is not a science with clear formulas. The variety seems to have been specially created so that fans can roam around and think about everything that was not in the series. It makes me sad.
@InnSight: Well, it seems to me that I haven't read many omegavers, but everything was different everywhere, each author wrote his own world and I just accepted these rules. All I've learned from the versatility of the omegaverse is that there are alphas, omegas, and betas. The rest depends on the author's imagination. Pheromones, bites, pregnancies, statuses (dominance, recessivity) β it's all at the discretion of the writer of the story.
@PandaIT: Phatsa's mom is really pure Omega. This is not an idea, but a fact confirmed by the fact that Phatsa himself is a pure Omega.
Only a pure Omega can give birth to a pure Omega. Purity with genes is inherited. Google this fact in Omegaverse on the Internet and read it yourself and see for yourself. Phatsa's father is an ordinary Alpha, as we know, then from whom did Phatsa inherit his purity genes? His mother is from her mother, Phats is from her mother, it's so transmitted.
To claim that a pure Omega was born from an ordinary Omega is like claiming that a puppy was born from a cat.
@NastyaM999: Oh, that was awkward. I took your advice and Googled it. And what did Google give me? An ordinary alpha and an ordinary omega can give birth to an unusual child, but it all depends on the author's imagination, because there is no canon in the omegaverse world. So what does it turn out to be? Phatsa's mom may well be an ordinary omega.
I really enjoyed this episode. It turned out to be very contrasting β from deep drama to absolute tenderness..
A heartfelt conversation scene between Phatsa and his father turned out. It's good that my father admitted his mistakes. I assumed that Phatsa didn't know about the Omegaverse world because it was deliberately hidden from him. After such torments of his mother, it is not surprising that his father hid it from him. He was trying to protect his son. He did everything right, except for one thing β he abandoned his son, it's cruel. I hope that now he will be by Phatsoy's side and correct his mistakes.
Phats feels sorry that he feels trapped by fate. It's so hard and painful for him in his soul. How much he has to endure: to find out that you are an Omega at such an adult age, a late and painful restructuring of the body, raging hormones, and now pregnancy, another stress for poor Phatsa.
Interestingly, everyone around has already realized that the replenishment is coming, but poor Phatsa does not suspect anything. He does not understand what is happening around him and with him, why this sudden overprotection of him began. He doesn't understand why Nakhon suddenly became so caring towards him. Poor Phatsa is disoriented, as they say. It was very nice to see how happy Nakhon flew in from work, kissing Phatsu on the tummy, so glowing, shining.
And another wonderful aspect of the Omegaverse world was shown β Nesting. As a pregnant Phatsa needs the warm soothing pheromones of his Alpha, he even keeps his shirt under his pillow. And how nice it was to see how Nakhong, saving Phatsa from unnecessary trouble, carefully built such a cozy nest of his pheromone-soaked belongings, so vital for Phatsa and their baby. It made my heart melt.
And the icing on the cake this time is Nakhin and Ongsa. The way Nakhin takes care of Ongsa and tries to convey his tangerine scent to beta with the help of a citrus bush looked incredibly touching and symbolic. And what a big degree of heat they gave this lakorn!
But the domineering father significantly miscalculated, trying to switch his matrimonial plans to his second son. Nakhin obviously won't let his life be ruined.
And I'm looking forward to the development of the Naphitch and Sangnua couple's relationship in the next episode!
Yeah, well, now it's clear why the script is frankly lame))) Let's be honest, the budget in varnish is not very large, and when choosing whether to pay more to the boys for such NC, or to the screenwriter, the choice turned out to be obvious. Logically, in the next episode, the third couple will bring dessert, and I already have a ladle for them, I don't agree to eat their cupcake with a smaller device. And if the creators decide to show what all three couples are capable of in one of the episodes, then this one, if anything, I live in St. Petersburg, on the board, if I'm gone for a long time, look for me there and pump me out.
@vera24: In the next episode, the third couple, I think, will stop at a kiss. But after a series... there will be a completely different depth, following the example of the second pair.
I really like that this lacorna has paid a lot of attention to different aspects of omegaverse - bite, nesting, the connection between alpha and omega, the search by smell. But some moments look bad, as we wrote earlier - a cafe with no one in it. The supporting characters are too caricatured. Instead of sending Phatsu to the doctor, they gave him some kind of green stuff for half a series. The footage jumps back and forth - there are no connecting elements, Phatsa from home found himself right in his father's bedroom. I think that even with a small budget, it was possible to arrange the story beautifully. The actors are doing great, they're trying and they're acting well.
Nevertheless, the impression is more positive (I make allowances for the fact that few people have filmed omegavers before) than negative, I'm waiting for what will be shown to us next.
at first, the father of the year hid the origin of phatsa and he found out about himself and the world after twelve years, then for some reason the family number two cannot express their assumptions about pregnancy in words, that's lucky for the guy!
I laughed a lot at the moment when nakhin threw ongs in slippers on the bed, there was just one slap hanging like that, someone has a gif, throw it here pliz
@vera24: it's not surprising that the hairstyle is fucked up, he was in flight for a moment and his hair was disheveled.π
And after landing on the bed, they regained their former shape. But I agree, of course, that the hair was too neatly folded after the flight. In any case, Ongsa had to look at least a little shaggy, but still.π
@tinkergo: why do you dislike it? Explain what you disagree with? Let's talk. Please give your reasons.
I've read a lot of omegaverses before and I'm reading now, and I know a lot about this world, and it allows me to figure out what's going on here.
Here the person asked for the analysis here, I answered clearly based on those omegaverses that I read, I realized that hormones in childhood are unstable. There was even a clear description of a case where a child was tested, analyzed, and it turned out to be incorrect.
At least I look deep and draw conclusions from what I've read, I've studied this Omegavers topic, and my arguments are not out of the box.
Explain to me what I'm wrong about. Please do not silently dislike, but give your reasons.
@NastyaM999: I'm disliking it because I disagree with your comment. I don't always want to describe my position in detail: sometimes it's enough just to like a comment that I agree with, or dislike one that I disagree with. It's nothing personal.
I also wanted to say that I often notice that you evaluate what is happening in the series based on a certain "canon" that you have developed from reading fanfiction or originals. but, in my opinion, the story should be evaluated based on what is shown and told in the story itself, and not from the ideas formed by other works.
I would understand this approach if we were talking, for example, about a documentary or historical events, where there really is an established canon of facts. but omegaverse does not have a canon as such: each author has his own rules and his own world structure. therefore, it seems to me that it is worth evaluating what is happening based on the data that we are given in the series itself.
@tinkergo: I don't agree with your opinions often either, but I get upset about it.
I don't read fanfiction, but short stories. And without them, I studied the concept of the Omegaverse world. That's why I rely on everything. If you don't read, don't be interested, it means you don't know the concepts and canons of the Omegaverse world as a whole, and then how can you watch and evaluate the Omegaverse film adaptation without understanding anything about it, if you are far from it?
Lakorn was also not filmed from stupidity, but also based on concepts and terms, probably from the same novels.
@NastyaM999: about likes and dislikes. I somehow take the rating system on this resource easier and don't see anything objectionable in dislikes, it's not some kind of competition, so for me it's just a way to show agreement or disagreement with an opinion.
about whether you need to have any knowledge in order to evaluate the work. on the one hand, yes, it's not bad if the person who watches lacorn about omegavers already knows the main features of this system and understands what options there are for such a world. then it's interesting to compare how different authors interpret the same concept. but ideally, the story itself should explain its world in such a way that even to a person who has never encountered omegaverse before, everything is clear.
@tinkergo: Well, these are someone's arguments, addressed to someone. They're not yours anyway.
You can also express your opinion, and not be based on someone else's feedback.
Even if you agree with another opinion, convey it in your own way to the right person. And that's when a person doesn't want to repeat himself, it turns out he doesn't have his own thoughts and there's simply nothing to share.
@tinkergo: You seem to have misunderstood everything. π
If the topic requires a deeper understanding and careful analysis, and you are not familiar with the details and are not ready to delve into the essence, and also do not have your own arguments and judgments, it may be better to refrain from evaluating altogether.
@kiro4ka_konfetka: in my opinion, I have already stated my position quite clearly above. if my opinion coincided with the opinion of another person, I just didn't see the point in writing the same thing again. That's what I used likes and dislikes for: I liked where I agreed, and disliked where I didn't.
in response, I was asked to clarify the dislikes, and as far as I understand, I heard the following: if I agree with someone else's opinion, it means that I don't have my own opinion and I'm forming my opinion on someone else's, which is not true.
by the way, I tried to end the conversation peacefully, with a virtual handshake and a promise not to silently dislike a particular user, since it's so important, but apparently that wasn't enough either and now I need to not dislike at all...
@tinkergo: Well, they would have said honestly right away: "I don't want to go into anything, I'm too lazy to write, I don't have my own arguments, I'm too lazy to rewrite others, I'd rather put likes and dislikes where I need to, and it doesn't matter if something is right or not."
This is no offense to you. It's just that this conclusion came out of your interesting discussion. π
@tinkergo: If you are not familiar with the omegavers genre and do not know its terminology, then it will be very difficult to perceive the film adaptation based only on what is shown on the screen.
I'll give you a specific example from the comments to one of the previous series. There, a man who did not understand omegaverse interpreted the situation of blindfolded Nakhon as a role-playing game. However, this is actually an important aspect of the omegaverse world: alpha shows his submissiveness to omega so as not to cause him discomfort, especially when omega is still weak and vulnerable β as in the case of Phatsa, who suddenly developed omega traits in adulthood. Nakhon knew about this and tried not to frighten Phatsu with his harsh behavior, especially since he had already demonstrated his strength to him once.
Such misunderstanding is a common occurrence among those who are not familiar with the genre. I've even seen reviews where Nakhon and Phatsu were simply called assets and liabilities, which already indicates a complete ignorance of the basics of omegaverse, because even the basic concepts of who alphas and omegas are are explained and shown in detail here.
You wrote: "ideally, the story itself should explain its world in such a way that even to a person who has never encountered omegaverse before, everything is clear."
In this case, lacorne shows their vision of omegaverse and reveals key aspects in detail, but if the viewer has no experience with this genre, they may still misinterpret what is happening.
Omegavers is a separate and rather complex genre, and if you are new to it, it can be very difficult to logically understand all the nuances the first time.
Therefore, if you are not familiar with omegavers at all, it may be worth learning the basics first before watching and even more so evaluating such stories.
I agree, omegavers is a complex genre and I sometimes wonder myself - Who and when invented the classic omegavers, laid its foundations, terminology? And they were tacitly recognized by a large part of the audience.
He really is a classic omegaverse, let's say, and his knowledge helps to read/watch stories that already have their own nuances, deviations from the "classics of the genre."
At first, I greatly underestimated this lacorn, considering that it was much inferior to "ABO desire", which aesthetically shows much more beautiful markings and gon and so on. It's more visually pleasing, in my opinion.
But now, as the series progresses, I see how much detail everything is explained about this world. They try to explain directly to the audience what's what and why, well, in their own way, how exactly everything works in this lacorn.
After reading dozens, maybe even hundreds, of omega-esque fanfiction, it certainly makes it easier for me to watch the film adaptations. And then I didn't go right away, I didn't appreciate this series from the very beginning, precisely in terms of revealing the genre.
By the way, I'm NOT a fan of the classic omegaverse, but knowing it helps me watch such series. And it took me a while to realize how well this lacorn was shot, precisely in terms of explaining this world.
In this genre, I found my favorite side branch in fanfiction - Unconventional, inside the traditional omegaverse. I like to read about omega with omega, about alpha with alpha and even about beta with beta)) I found such an offshoot and I like it the most.
I'm sure one day there will be bl series with such main characters, when they screen a sufficient number of classic omegavers. But in order to get to this side branch and understand that this is mine, I first reread a lot of "classics", let's say.
@Ayana85: Classic omegavers originated in Western fanfiction (in the Supernatural fandom around 2010), and knowledge of this database is the key to understanding any lacorn.
The comparison with ABO Desire is very accurate here, because these two projects show radically different approaches to the genre: ABO Desire relies on visual aesthetics, the artistic beauty of tags, gonads and mystical connection through the prism of the viral origin of the world and the rare gender of Enigma.
The knot, on the contrary, takes precisely the qualitative disclosure of the nature of classical ent. He's more down-to-earth, but he literally chews up the viewer's mouth and social structure. And it's cool that this series explains the rules of its world in such detail, and not just exploits a beautiful picture of pheromones.
By the way, Alpha/Alpha or Omega unions/Omega is an amazing trope. Character struggles or general difficulties make such plots very deep. And I'm also sure that when the classics of omegaverse, let's say, "get bored" with the audience, the film industry will definitely get to these unconventional branches within the genre, because the audience always wants something new and non-standard.
@Ayana85: I'm sorry for interrupting the conversation. As an Omegaverse fan, I also want to do my bit, share what I know.
Omegavers is a very popular literary genre today. His story really began in May 2010. @Daniell_Chik is really right.
And I'll add that Omegavers developed something like this:
1..The genre originated in the online community Live Journal on the TV series "Supernatural". 2. The authors were inspired by animal biology and the concept of the hierarchy of wolf packs. This is how the alpha, beta, and omega model of society emerged. 3 Later, the concepts of Alpha, Beta, and Omega were applied to human relationships. It helped to explore deeper the themes of psychology, instincts, fate, gender roles, sincere feelings and the search for your man.
Initially, the Omegavers genre was an amateur creation, but now its elements are actively used in commercial literature, manga and manhwa.
The Omegavers genre is complex. And even I, as an ardent lover of Omegavers, couldn't immediately figure out the film adaptations of the drama "ABO Desire" and Lakorn Knot. A clearer concept is coming gradually. Each creator shows the world of Omegavers in their own way. It can be almost impossible to understand everything at once. Knowing the Omegavers genre itself, its classic canon and terms, helps you understand the film adaptations very well.
And filming Omegavers is even more difficult. But the creators are doing a great job, in my opinion. In "ABO Desire" it's tougher, but everything is clear. In "Knot" they show much softer and more new aspects, and everything is just as clear. I like both.
Alpha/Alpha and Omega Trails/Omega is cool. I read that too. And I would really like to see it on the screen. Hopefully, there will be such releases too. I'd like to see it. Maybe someday they will please us with this.
And by the way, here, in the lacorn "Node", there is also an equally interesting and not quite classic trail: Alpha / Beta. And the authors present it very smartly, in all its manifestations.
Nastya, thank you for your contribution to the discussion.
The series had previously raised the issue of the origin of the omegavers genre, and a person in the discussions there also wrote detailed reviews with approximate dates and titles of the series on which the first fanfiction appeared.
And if I remember correctly, according to the human version, the roots go back almost to the middle of the 20th century ... I remember that in the 1960s, as much as a year ... Maybe I'm confusing something, I remember so. Thanks to that person for searching. But still, it probably wasn'T the classic omegaverse, but its precursors.
But it was the "classics of the genre" with clear terminology and its own laws that appeared in 2010, just like you and @Daniell_Chik: write. I believe you)) And now I know almost the exact date without a day - May 2010 - the birth of the classic omegaverse.
The beta trail with someone is also very interesting, yes, even in omega, even with alpha ππ
As for the bl series on this topic, we are at the forefront. The first alleged film adaptation of Omegavers is PitBabe π They took the names and stuck them on - alphas, enigmas... They hardly explained anything about this topic, then they forgot about it altogether)) But a lot of places "PitBabe" is referred to as a bl series in the omegavers genre))
Well, there are constant disputes around this genre. And there are 3 main radically different points of view.
Some claim that Omegavers is a disguised Geth.
Others swear that this is "the highest degree of perversion," like "you don't have enough gays, so you can also give pregnant men, are you losing your mind?!" Omegavers has a lot of very haters.
People who recognize omegavers as a separate genre and phenomenon in bl content and love it very much and often appreciate it even more than the usual slash/bl real.
@Ayana85: Pete Babe is a great lacorn in his own right. But omegavers are conditional there. Only the names of the ranks are used. Omegas are not mentioned in the plot. The central path is Alpha/Alpha. Babe and Charlie are both alphas.
The topic of Enigmas is covered superficially. Only their superiority is shown a little: they made it clear that an Alpha can have a child with Enigma, and Enigma is the most powerful being in the Omegaverse, that even Alphas cannot resist him. And this is much more detailed, I would even say that it is almost completely revealed in "ABO Desire".
Pete Babe is an urban fantasy. The focus there is on superpowers and opposing the main Alpha villain. Pheromones and other other important aspects are not even mentioned there.
About the roots from the 1960s: Then the harbinger slash was really born. It was a Star Trek fandom. Omegavers itself appeared in 2010.
As for opinions about the genre: Those points of view are subjective and superficial. They do not fully reflect the essence.
I totally agree with statement number 3. Omegavers is a unique artistic phenomenon. He really deserves respect. And he has his own rules.
And I categorically disagree with the opinion that Omegavers is a disguised Geth, number 1. This is far from the case.
There is an Omega male in Omegaverse, and it is no longer a geth.
An omega man is not a woman. He has a man's psychology, a man's social role. In this case, if the man is an omega, Omegavers explores new facets of masculinity. He breaks down the usual gender stereotypes.
The biology of the fictional world is important here. Pheromones, truthfulness, hierarchy of ranks. There are no such mechanisms in Goethe. This is an independent and unique phenomenon.
If the Alpha is a man, which it is anyway, and plus the Omega is a man, and two men together, it's not a geth in any way.
So it's wrong to think of Omegavers as a Geth in disguise.
@Ayana85: Yes, Willy is a great character. I couldn't agree more. I felt so sorry for him when I found out how Tony had bullied him and had a chip implanted in his head. One wrong move, one wrong word, and that's it...He'll blow his head off for insubordination. It's a shame to live like this and know this, and be afraid that they'll kill you so terribly. I wanted to hug and comfort him.
Milk actually played the role of Willy perfectly. It was strong. Moreover, the negative character is difficult. He needs to be given his due. Clever girl.
Oh, I already remember what date in September and where to look for it in which new series π Even though he's gray/ash-colored and painted for nothing, he's still a handsome man.
My fantasy in Pitbabe didn'T come true, I wanted him to actually be in love with Charlie... it turned out not, after all, he was really into Babe. But, all the same, he's a super Zai for me.
And almost never appears anywhere (( They would have invited me here to the "Knot")) Alpha to play)) Milk is rarely removed ((
@Daniell_Chik: It seems to me that the essence of cinema is precisely to introduce the viewer to a new world and reveal its rules. And omegavers has not yet been filmed so that everything is clear from scratch, so now it is especially important not to skip the basic explanations. I understand that you've read a lot about ABO and are already well versed in the nuances. But due to the fact that the rules differ from source to source, betting only on a prepared audience is unfair to others. The series should not be "for their own". Take, for example, the Supernatural series: It's all mythology and fairy tales, but each time the characters explain in simple words what's going on and why. And it works even for those who don't know the original sources. Here, too, you want the same gentle immersion β and that's exactly what's missing.
For some reason, it seems to me that Phat is not pregnant. Of course, it's nice that everyone is fussing with him like a crystal ball because of this, but I seriously think that a child is superfluous here now. Nevertheless, the relationship between Nakhon and Phat is still quite fragile, they lack knowledge about each other, communication, and establishing just the connection that instinct formed for them. And Phat himself doesn't seem to have digested the whole omegaverse emotionally yet, plus he doesn't know or understand many aspects of this world. And no one tells him much about them, which is extremely sad. All his symptoms are an adaptation to what is happening and an attempt to regain emotional stability for himself and his head. And talking about his mom and the whole situation had obviously drained him a lot. Plus, even with all the beauty, excessive care can sometimes be exhausting too. π€·βοΈ In all this fuss about pregnancy, which for some reason no one talks about Phatu, the only good thing is that Nakhon has finally begun to pay more attention and time to him. That's what Phat really needs, especially now.
*** I can imagine Nakhon's dad with a face full of shock when he finds out who exactly is the pure omega, or else he decided to marry his second son without even asking if it was necessary or not. Nakhin has already got everything right there)
It turns out that the secret name "No. 3 - quiet heat" hides the smell of kumquat... It would also be nice to remember exactly what kumquat smells like.
@LaFeeTioka: Your thoughts that Nakhon and Phat need time to talk and build a conscious relationship sound very mature and correct for our real world.
But lakorn "Knot" is not just a human drama, but an omegaverse, where biology and instincts always go ahead without asking the characters if they are mentally ready.
The creators of the series literally laid out all the classic Omega pregnancy markers for us: "Quiet heat" (the smell of kumquat) is not just a beautiful perfume name, but a hormonal signal of the body.
Nesting, the scene where Phatsa hides Nakhon's shirt under a pillow and reaches for his things for the smell, is an undeniable, purely biological symptom of pregnancy and hormonal adjustment in the world of ABO. Psychology can't explain it.
It's no accident that the director shows us this fuss and overprotective attitude from Nakhon. His inner Alpha has already understood everything and turned on the instinct of "nest protection" to the maximum.
And the child is definitely not superfluous here β he is the main engine of the plot, which finally binds the true couple together, breaking all the plans of Nakhon's father to marry a pure omega to the wrong son.
@Daniell_Chik: So you're an expert on omegaverse... Please explain to a noob how Phat's pregnancy (if it exists at all) can be related to the kumquat pheromones of someone else's alpha, not his soulmate? I want to grasp the logic of this world.
@Daniell_Chik: The fuss around Phat is purely because everyone thinks he's pregnant. And all of Nakhong's caring and cooing wasn't because he felt pregnant, but because he was told about it. A shirt under the pillow and a craving for the smell of his alpha β this is how Nakhon is at home for three and a half minutes, and spends even less time with Phat. Phat is on his own all the time, he sleeps alone, walks alone, eats alone. They obviously don't show it to us, but they tell us that they rarely see each other there because of Nakhon's work. A natural Phat longs for a partner and wants to smell him closer to himself. And Nakhon himself built the nest, again thinking that it was necessary because of pregnancy. Phat himself did not build anything. Moving the plot with a child is not like watching a cheap TV series where one partner tries to hold the other or draw attention to himself with his pregnancy... In this project, in my opinion, it takes up quite a lot of space exactly how Phat tries to digest everything and adapt to his new world. It may not be very revealing and understandable, but still the lion's share of everything that happens is devoted to his inner experience. Instincts are instincts, but there is also an ordinary person with an ordinary habitual worldview. And he clearly lacks just the human attention and care from Nakhon. As for the father's plans to connect his second son with a pure omega, nothing would have happened there without a child. The pure omega is already connected to the eldest son. Without a child or with a child, life has already played out for dad in the best possible way. If Nakhon had been without a partner, then his father would have imposed a pure omega on him, and then fate itself would have decided everything. For dad, this is just the most ideal option β everything is exactly as he wanted)
Wow, I have so much knowledge about omegavers now, I'm like a newborn in this world, and now I've learned so much!! :D I see from novels and manchas, this genre is being covered as best they can, and there is no justice for them))
Maybe someone has an ABO survival manual? I'm going there soon, but what should I do and how should I behave there if I'm an alpha at home, omezhka in a cupcake, and betka with friends
Well, you're so diverse... it's simple for me, I'm a beta and that's it))
Welcome back from the South We also have a rest here ... almost like at a resort ... the one where the nervous system is strengthened))
This series is like a charmed one, no matter what the reviews for the new series are, it's all a firework of emotions...
In general, it's an astrological reference, I'll try to take it as a spoiler, I don't know if it will work. Those who DO NOT believe in astrology at all may NOT read it.
Eclipses and the corridor between them are NOT uncommon, they usually happen a couple of times a year, but this corridor will be special from August 12 to 28. The atmosphere is already starting to heat up a few days before it, but now everything can still be fixed and we can win back. But in the corridor itself from 12 to 28, that's it...
For me, this is generally familiar, right in my sign, Leo, and it will close... If I quarrel with someone at this time, it will NO LONGER be reconciled... Therefore, I walk modestly and DO NOT interfere in anything...||
@Ayana85: Everything that happens in the corridor of eclipses is karma. Not only quarrels, but also new acquaintances can be a karmic test. And, by the way, the action of the corridor has already begun.
It's definitely started... I'm already getting annoyed... I'm singing my own song, the lyrics are Yesenin's poems:
"You're NOT the first among women... not a few of you... but with someone like you with a bitch It's my first time... the harmonica rash..."
I got stuck on this song. Apparently I'm closing the hellshtat...
And you're walking around somewhere...Before the corridor of eclipses... you don't write anything in my other favorite lacorn. When I DIDN'T want you to comment there, you came)) When I want you to say your opinion there, on the contrary, you are silent there.
You're blowing it up here...For omegavers... you're talking about some well-read people, putting the word "well-read" in the bucket, as if zeroing out knowledge. I'm seeing pebbles in my garden... but I'm NOT going to blow it up, I don'T want to get into trouble with you. We haven'T reconciled yet...But like this or that... purely because it's YOU. I would have had a debate with another person.
No, it's better for you to go to the comments to "Don't be too emotional" and tell your opinion about the plot there.
I mean, you know what to do in life and where to comment on it. I'm just saying my opinion from the outside.
And yes, the corridor, especially if there is an eclipse in your sign... then this is all... fateful.
I've lost my beloved nephew so much. She's 7 years younger than me. Like a sister to me, like my best friend. No one could break us up, although they tried. All our lives together. And into the hallway, as we glitched... and that's it. Now no one can reconcile, not her mother, no one. That's how it got cut off, although we're both worried. But no, that's all.
In general, I will try NOT to flash until the end of August))
@Ayana85: Oh yes, my favorite "boring" series⦠I'm looking forward to every episode. But you've already discussed everything with Nastya there, and there's nothing to add. However, the timeskip for five years really knocked me out of my rut.
As for the "wellβread" ones, I put them in quotation marks on purpose: the word carries much more meaning than just novels and fanfiction. I didn't throw stones at you. And yes, I'm not changing my point of view: of all the omegaverse lines that I've studied, the scriptwriters haven't brought out at least one clear one. Well, let's not continue this topic. We'd better get to the end, and then we'll see.
During ππ That's my taste)) When a woman is peppery, she may NOT agree on everything ... but she knows how to stop at the right time, NOT to bring the situation to a frenzy.
Let's wait here for the further development of the plot. Well, and new comments... This is the hottest lacorn on the comms... It's NOT the first episode...
I have already said and I repeat, this is a very cultural venue. There's no way people would have split up so easily on a FicBook...
And then everyone spoke out. Those who remained silent, those who showed likes to whom whose point of view is closer, but this does NOT mean that those who turned out to be on the other side in this dispute, they are now "enemies". Not at all.
I hope everyone will appear in the reviews whenever they want and speak freely.
Oh, you're asking for compliments)) The girls love you here)) You know who))
blackberry...Well, maybe I ate it once, I don'T remember the taste. I've been fed nothing but Snickers since I was a kid)) Fruits were rarely given, especially berries. Well, you know about soups and stuff...
That's why I don'T know the taste of blackberries. I haven'T watched the TV series "Matchmakers"))
@Call_me_bunny: Didn't Yana tell you that you and carrot were expected here?)) Well, you missed a lot, of course. Yana will whisper to you in the personal account if anything)))
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177Nakhon so carefully covered Phatsu with a plaid. She hugs him like that, buries her face in his hair and neck.
And how defenseless and sad Phatsa looks at this moment. He feels trapped by fate. The trap of fate is only a partial truth. There is another truth: next to Phatsa is Nakhon, who loves him and takes care of him.
Looking at such a Phatsu, my maternal instinct wakes up. I want to hug him so much and give him at least a piece of the love he craves so much.
Nakhon made such a cozy, comfortable nest out of his clothes soaked in pheromones for their baby's Phats, provided them with the most necessary things. Well, he's so caring and happy.
It turned out to be such a warm and tremulous moment. It warms my soul.π€
And how did he keep an eye on him from so far away that he missed the mark... he walked too far away and didn't see it
That's really the daddy of the year
The truth has already been deleted((
It's a shame that only our gifs are deleted. In other TV shows, they hang themselves, no one touches them.
@InnSight: It's a conspiracy
I've had a lot of these GIFs deleted. Then I contacted the support group and asked why. They replied that such depraved gifs are prohibited in reviews of bl lacorns, because they do not want verification and serious problems, they had something like that there, they received warnings. Because such a thing is being prosecuted in the Russian Federation.
That's why they delete such GIFs to avoid problems, and they said they were working to ban GIFs of such explicit content. In the meantime, a ban has not yet been established, access to reviews in blacorns in Russia is blocked, only through VPN is possible. Something like that.
But I was told that they were checking the blacks to avoid problems, as depraved GIFs pose a serious threat. How did they put it: "neither we nor you want our platform to be shut down because of problems, try to add something less compromising."
He was trying to save his son. And he hid the Omegavers world from Phatsa precisely because he saw how this very Omegavers broke and destroyed his beloved wife. It was the only available (albeit desperate) way for him to try to raise his son as an ordinary person. My father did not know that Phatsa was an Omega and sincerely believed that his mother's fate would pass him by.
And the father's departure is not just "abandoning his son," it is a deep psychological trauma. Looking at his son every day, who grew up to be an exact replica of his dead wife, was a daily torture for him and a reminder of his own impotence in front of the higher powers of this world.
Yes, he made a mistake, was cowardly and left. But we saw his sincere remorse and tears. He admitted his guilt. And his "watching from afar" is an attempt to be close without hurting his son with his pain. And his drama as a father who is left alone with the laws of nature is truly heartbreaking.
The woman held on to her love for him to the last, did not want to leave her family, fought with her instincts and was ready to die just to stay close. She entrusted her loved one with the most precious and vulnerable thing they had, their child. A child who became a natural extension of their love. And after her death, it was the father's responsibility to raise his son in care and safety. In real safety, not in escape. She had endured the physical pain and the struggle with her own instincts, and he couldn't handle the guilt. π€·πΌβοΈ
Yes, he was scared. Yes, he was plagued by guilt. But the trauma he has experienced explains his condition, and does not justify the act. A child should not pay for the pain and mistakes of an adult
My father knew how cruel this world was to omegas without a mark. His hopes that his son will turn out to be an alpha are too weak an excuse. As a result, the child was left alone to figure out what was happening to him, why it was happening, and how to live in a world that no one had told him anything about.
If I were this woman who gave her life for a man and entrusted him with the most valuable thing she had, I would be deeply disappointed in him. It's hard for me to imagine that she would want exactly such a fate for her son. Phat was lucky that the right alpha managed to tag him. If it had been some freak from the alley, no amount of crying would have changed anything. The father actually left his son alone with the risk of repeating the fate of his own mother
He might cry the whole Pacific Ocean now, but in my eyes, as a father, he screwed up big time. Remorse is wonderful. But it does not arouse sympathy in me and cannot outweigh the fact that he left his own child alone with the very world that he was once afraid of himself.
And I have something to add β an analysis! Instead of hoping, I could do an analysis for the child.
And Phat's father told him that as a child he already knew how to control hormones/pheromones, and therefore he thought he was an alpha.
This fictional world is initially very harsh, in which people are broken through instincts, tags and hormones, making them suffer. Therefore, judging heroes and their mistakes by the standards of our ordinary, human world is not entirely correct β there are other, much more primitive and frightening laws at work.
And a person with deep psychological trauma, whose life and love were destroyed in cold blood by this system, would not be able to make adequate ideal and calculated decisions in any way.
Phatsa's father made a fatal mistake, succumbing to fear and grief, and most importantly, he admits it himself. I hope he will now be by his son's side and provide him with the love, warmth and protection that he deprived him of before.
But in stories with a late or hidden awakening of the essence, it often happens that up to a certain age or severe stress, the hormonal background remains "dormant" or disguised.The father just fell into this mental trap: seeing that the child was physically stable and even suppressing some initial manifestations (which is why he mistook Phatsu for alpha), he calmly decided that Phatsu was safe and his mother's tragedy had definitely passed him by. This is the irony and drama of their fate β nature took its course too suddenly.
Let's see how the scriptwriters unfold this family drama next.
Moreover, when Phatsa's manifestations were such that his father sincerely mistook him for a strong alpha, he simply had no thought of taking the child to the doctors and doing tests. Why check something you're already sure of? False confidence blinded my father, which is why he missed the moment.
It's like trying to unify stories about vampires: someone burns in the sun, and someone glows; someone is afraid of garlic, and someone adds it to fried potatoes; someone needs to be personally invited into the house, and someone breaks in without knocking. It all depends on the author's imagination. The general idea is to drink blood, and everyone prescribes the details in their own way.
It's a similar story with abo. The same soulmates as here are not found in every story. A cruel world where people's instincts are literally broken is also just one of the possible authorial approaches that does not become a mandatory rule of the genre. Someone is building a real dystopia, and someone is using omegaverse only as a romantic setting. The same applies to labels: in some cases they cause physical pain, in others they work almost like a stamp in a passport, and in some stories they are not mentioned at all. It all depends on what kind of story a particular author wants to tell.
That is why the task of any author is to explain the rules of his own world in sufficient detail so that he does not have to look for explanations in other stories of this genre. Here, you have to figure out a lot yourself, based on your own reading experience.
And if we're talking about primitive instincts, then protecting your own child is one of the most basic.
In the father's case, the human psychological trauma turned out to be stronger than this alpha instinct. And this is not about our human world anymore.
That's why it will be especially interesting for me to see Phat when he himself has a child. If my interpretation is correct, then I wouldn't be surprised if we see how his alpha will be ready to literally bite everyone's throats for the safety of his child. Such a contrast could have further emphasized what Phat himself lacked in childhood.
I'm not excluding Dad's injury from the equation. It's there. He may not have been able to think rationally after his wife's death, but he continued to function quite well. In his own words:
"...and most importantly, you controlled the pheromones, even though I didn't teach you that. That's why I thought you were an alpha, just like me."
That is, he knew that his son's secondary sex had already manifested itself. Yes, he wanted to protect the child from the truth about this world, but in order to determine the secondary sex, it is not necessary to tell him all the details. You could call it a routine blood test and make sure. Instead, the father drew a conclusion based on appearances and his own assumptions, although he could have received an accurate answer and been more circumspect.
As @InnSight noted, Phatu's children complained that they were afraid to take the test and disappoint their parents. So they make it for children. It is because of such gaps that we have to look for explanations ourselves and assume that Phat might have had some difficulties with this. Nowhere in the story is it explicitly mentioned that children's pheromones are unstable
In general, if the father continues to act and take care of his actions, then I will be able to assess how ready he is to be with his son, to take responsibility for his safety, and not just to apologize for his weakness.
I didn't want to comment on this episode in protest because James and Folk have no real development as a couple again.
But since the topic of fathers and children has come up...
I can't keep quiet.
In theory, according to the law, both the earthly and the higher status of a parent imposes responsibility and it is no longer possible to just run around and freak out, as if a person were a loner.
You can't say that I'm depressed and I'm going to look for myself, and you're a child, live as you want.
But that's the idea...
but in fact, you always have to ask a lot of clarifying questions in each specific situation and take into account all the nuances and generally look at the psychotype of who the story is about.
If Phatsa's father understood that he was storming, literally shaking next to his son, then it's better to leave.
I think he made the right decision then.
And the decision to appear now is also the right one.
This is a case of "better late than never."
It's been a long time.
The pain of losing the woman he loved was at least a little dulled.
He has gone his own way over the years, rethought a lot.
I myself am always at the forefront of condemning fathers who have abandoned children.
And I perfectly understand those who criticize Phatsa's father, but still, each story must be analyzed individually.
Some people help in life by NOT interfering...
If the father understood that his psyche was broken at that time and he would NOT be able to raise his son normally, he would either snap at him or, on the contrary, pathologically protect him from this world - limit his social circle, tightly control or something else, then it is better to leave.
There is nothing good about a child growing up next to a man who is all loose, all like a boiling kettle, now in tears, now in screams...
We once showed the son of our Soviet actress Natalia, I won'T give her last name, it's still NOT appropriate here.
Anyone who is interested in the films of those years will understand who we are talking about.
Her son says, "Thank you so much to my mother for putting me completely in the care of my grandparents and showing up once a year.
And I grew up with them as a normal, adequate person.
If I had grown up with her, with her men, I do not know what would have happened to me at all.
She tried to take me away when I was a teenager, so I never wanted to live with her.
My sister interacted with her more than I did, so she suffered from mental trauma for the rest of her life.
I'm so grateful that she didn't raise me, it's the best thing she's ever done for me."
Sometimes it's a great mercy if a parent leaves...
if they're NOT meant to be a parent at all.
Or if at that particular time the mental state was such that he simply could not give anything but psychosis to the child.
Specifically, Phatsa's father was NOT like this in life, but at that time he was in such a state that he could NOT adequately fulfill the duties of a parent.
Perhaps staying close to his son would have led him to develop some kind of mental illness on a nervous basis and he would have been raised in a nervous, irritated environment, with a bunch of phobias.
And Phatsa would be a completely different nutcase right now.
This is a rare case when you can forgive the father of a runaway.
It's a one-in-a-million case.
but it seems to me that not only omega's life can be ruined because of ignorance. Yes, an omega can go outside, run into some scumbag, and after that his life will go downhill. but if his son is an alpha who knows nothing about hormones and how this world works, he can also go out, meet an omega or even several omegas and unknowingly commit something irreparable.
In general, the abo world is cruel. and it doesn't matter who his son is alpha or omega. In any case, not telling him how the world works seems like a very strange decision for his father.
The only option I could justify was if the father thought his son was a beta. then we can assume that he will not harm anyone and will not be involved in such situations himself. this option looks much more logical to me.
And the Omegaverse aspect of "protecting your offspring" seriously made me think that Phatsa's father is not his biological father, at this level he would hardly have abandoned his son even if he was psychologically broken. What if Phatsa's biological father is the same strong Alpha who bit his mom and bonded with her? She had been with him for a while, and the instincts and hormones of such a connection were doing their job. Maybe this father of Phatsa raised him because he loved his mother, and then he couldn't stand it and ran away.
Sometimes leaving is not just an escape, but a conscious choice of a person for the sake of the child and himself. Parental responsibility is not only to be close, but also not to harm, and sometimes you need to give space and time for this.
It's very valuable that you think about it so carefully and thoughtfully.π
But your main mistake is that you persistently try to judge the biological dystopia "Node" according to the laws of the Family Code and modern psychology, completely ignoring the ENT of the series.
In the violent Omegaverse that is shown to us here, "the death of a couple is not just sadness and depression. This is the physiological and mental destruction of the surviving Alpha at a hormonal level, up to a fatal outcome. A part of his personality is literally being burned out."
Phat's father was physically unable to function as the "conscious parent" from the psychology booksβhis brain was crippled by the loss of omega. The fact that his crippled instinct gave him the decision to hide his son and rejoice that he was supposedly an "Alpha" (after all, Phat abnormally blocked other people's smells) was the maximum that the biology of a broken being in this world is capable of. He didn't "screw up as a human," he degraded as an Alpha due to loss of connection.
And most importantly, your phrase "Phatu was lucky that the right alpha managed to tag him" definitively proves that you are not reading the plot. In the world of the Node, Nakhon and Phat are a true soulmate couple. Their meeting, this very smell of kumquat ("quiet heat"), nesting with a shirt under the pillow and a tag is not "luck" or an accident. This is an inflexible biological law.
And no "freak from the alley," as you put it, could have done what Nakhon did, left a mark, because the body of a pure omega Phats responded only to its true Alpha, it would not have accepted another one.
You are looking for a domestic drama about negligent fatherhood here, and the creators of lakorn show us a story about how primitive instincts, marks and knots break and subjugate people. The biology of the genre rules here, not human morality.
The tragedy of Phat's mother is just an example of violence against an omega without a label, it is the result of a stigma that created a murderous bond.
Any Alpha can actually physically bite an ordinary omega, imposing his will on her and ruining her life. But Phatsa is a pure omega, and this is a rare genetic status that is described as an anomaly in the series.
Pure omegas have the ability to completely block other people's pheromones and subdue them. An ordinary "alley bum" would not be able to bite, he simply would not be physically able to even approach Phatsa because the aura of a pure omega would simply crush him, as it was already shown in the series, using the example of Naphitch. It clearly showed how Phatsa almost ran over Naphitch Alpha with his pheromones, and they made it clear to us that other Alphas had no power over him. A pure omega is stronger and only his true pure Alpha can have power over him.
Phatsa's body accepted Nakhon precisely because Nakhon is a pureβblooded, dominant Alpha and his true mate. Their connection is not a random bite, it is the resonance of kumquat pheromones that Nakhon felt from a distance.
Your phrase that "not everyone meets a soulmate" is true, but it works against your own argument.
Yes, not everyone does. But Nakhon and Phatsa met each other. And that's why their connection was instantly activated.
Trying to reduce the unique, canonical biology of purebloods to the banal mechanics of bites is an indicator of very superficial viewing, where the viewer notices only the external action, but completely misses the inner ent of the story.
You're missing the point of the pure omega tragedy. The violent stigma from someone else's Alpha became a deadly poison for her precisely because she was a pure omega and her body was genetically tuned only to her True One. An ordinary omega would have survived and obeyed, while a pure omega would have died from hormonal shock and rejection of other people's pheromones.
That is why no "homeless man from the alley" could have marked a Phatsu without a fatal outcome. Phatsa's body accepted Nakhon without biological rejection, launching nesting, only because Nakhon is its True Alpha. Nakhon didn't just bite him, their bodies entered into a genetic resonance.
The authors of the series talk to the viewer through understandable details, hoping that the audience is following the plot, rather than watching it in the background.
The view is called "superficial" only when they try to explain the obvious plot hints with ordinary everyday logic from our real life, completely ignoring the laws of the fictional world.
No one is trying to offend anyone β it's just a fact: to understand the motives of the characters in this story, you need to look at the screen a little more closely.
Phatsa's mom was an ordinary pure omega. She was caught off guard in a moment of weakness (during estrus), when the control of instincts is turned off. And she didn't know how to defend herself.
And Phatsa's body is able to completely cover its odor and suppress other people's pheromones. He's a rare pure omega. Remember how his own alpha father told Phatsa that he was shocked by how much he controlled odors, and because of this he mistook his son for an alpha.
Mom was most likely caught off guard, and an ordinary alpha from a doorway would not even be able to approach Phatsa β Phatsa would simply crush him with his aura, again using the example of Naphitch. Only Nakhon could break through this protection, because he is his True Self.
The son became stronger than the mother in order to survive. If you watch the series carefully, it's completely understandable.
She probably found out from the spoilers somewhere. Lakorn has a secret name, namely, "Number 3. Quiet Heat" was not specifically mentioned.
And now everything is clearly on the shelves.:
The name "silent heat" hides the smell of kumquat. But the very word "heat" in omegaverse refers exclusively to omegas. Alphas only have rut. This means that kumquat is the hidden scent of omega Phats, not some kind of alpha.
A classic mistake of an inattentive viewer: they saw Nakhin bring a citrus tree to Ongse, and immediately decided that kumquat was the smell of Nakhin. But this is a common false trail from the scriptwriters to confuse the characters within the plot!
The real fragrance of the main alpha (Nakhon), according to the official description, is "night distillery". And his scent of kumquat is hidden under the number 3, which is felt only by his omega.
One messed up biology and gave the alpha a "heat stroke" and fell for an intermediate plot trick with a tree and made far-reaching conclusions, and the second followed the same way.
Screenwriters force the viewer to think and compare details, but most people don't want to do that.
If you are not "observing" anything, I advise you to carefully review everything once again and delve into every detail. In the future, do the same βlook carefully, not just at the surface picture, and then you will "observe" everything. π
One, the other... The gentleman was found...
"Nakhin's best friend told him with a grin that he smells like rotten tangerines," we were made to understand this clearly.
The official names of the pheromone odors were provided to us in the first episode, and what is classified under them is made clear further.
And the fact that a person attributed heat (estrus) to alphas is nothing? Was he right? Everyone can make mistakes. No one is immune from this.
But @Daniell_Chik said it right, you need to look carefully to understand the essence properly.
There are arguments about the broken alpha father due to the loss of his omega, but! As you yourself have written many times, there is a cruel omegaverse, everything is tied to the truth and so on. And Phatsa's parents, in fact, were connected by ordinary human love. The father did not darken the mother, did not form a bond with her, and nothing was said about their couple's soulmates either. It turns out that there is no such strong omegaverse component in their relationship. Like, yes, an alpha protects his omega, he loves her infinitely, some of his instincts work purely on this. But there is no deep connection between the pair. Therefore, the father 's anguish after the death of his beloved cannot be attributed purely to omegavers and the loss of his omega alpha π€·βοΈ
To be honest, lakorn didn't explain much about soulmates either. Besides the fact that they are meant for each other and that this is very, very rare. The very mechanism of their interaction was not much explained. Only that they can feel each other's pain. Everything else you've written about biting and letting someone else's alpha in on you would not be a pure omega β more an experience of reading omega-cross stories than situations from lacorn. There were strong pheromones of pure omega, capable of bending a simple alpha, but Phat did not know that he could release these pheromones from the beginning. In that particular case with Naphin, Phat already knew about pheromones and even imagined how they could be used. But at the moment when he was in heat at the very beginning and when he was most vulnerable, he acted purely on his physical human strength β if then some left alpha had managed to get close and bite him, I doubt that Phat would have been able to fight back. Even the statement about soulmates doesn't work here, because Phat didn't know anything about it at all and by that time Nakhon hadn't noticed. Since the phenomenon is very rare, they don't even think about it, that it will happen to you. Therefore, if Phat had not met Nakhon in that fight, but some other true alpha, that alpha could have calmly bitten Phat the same way. π€·βοΈ
The pheromones of all the other characters were listed in the summaries that appeared on the screen in the first episode. Nakhin's second brother had a pheromone labeled "No. 3 -quiet fever." As @InnSight correctly noted, at first a friend joked about a rotten tangerine, and then Nakhin himself brought a kumquat tree to her and literally said, "I smell like this."
You write that everything is clearly shown in lacorne, but for some reason you yourself have gone into strange theories and a "false trail from the scriptwriters"
Where did the information that the first one smells of kumquat come from is also unclear to me.
One thing is clear, everyone looked through the ass to one degree or another)))
The second pheromone is called "flower of the night." So this mysterious "flower of the night" smells like rotten tangerines and kumquats)
Then, moreover, neither the kumquats nor the "quiet heat" from the arguments of the respected @kiro4_konfetka and @Daniell_Chik have anything to do with Phatsa and Nakhon. Neither hidden nor open)) Purely related to the brothers of Nakhon , unless π
God, I wanted a kumquat with our reasoning π
And I didn't confuse anyone. It's just that one person decided to attribute kumquat and the name of the third brother's pheromone to other characters for some reason (calling me inattentive at the same time) and called it a "false trail of scriptwriters," and you can see for yourself what followed.
And he got confused about the pheromones with the smell of kumquat. You're confused about it too, and nothing. It happens to everyone. I don't understand why everyone is so mad at him. He's a human being just like us. None of us is an angel here, everyone can miss something when watching. And many of his arguments here are actually factual. Take the same pregnancy of Phatsa. We were shown the one hundred percent indisputable fact of nesting, peculiar only to pregnant omegas, when Phatsa kept Nakhon's shirt with his pheromones under his pillow. His hormonal background, which changes due to pregnancy and the unborn child, requires soothing alpha pheromones. And plus, another indisputable fact of pregnancy is the nausea of Phatsa. So most likely our bun Phats is pregnant. We'll see in the next episode.
And the man was talking about Nakhon pheromones when he mentioned the smell of kumquat, not pheromones of Phatsa. He meant, he thought that Nakhon pheromones smell like kumquat and Phatsa needs them, and not Phatsa himself has this smell.
"And she died precisely because she rejected the connection with her head, as Phat did at the very beginning. It was not her body that rejected the connection with the wrong alpha, but her head that did not agree to this connection."
They explained that she died from someone else's mark, a brand that became poison and triggered a reaction in her body, which literally burned her entire body from the inside out and killed her. To say that she rejected the connection with her head is like saying that she was bitten by a cobra and the poison went through her body and kills the body, and she died because she rejected the bite with her head, but not from the venom of the snake that burned her. There is no comparison with Phatsa here at all. Phatsu was bitten by the true alpha, his soulmate, and his instinctive body was open to Nakhon, even if he subconsciously rejected it. And in the case of the mother, there was someone else's alpha and her body did not accept it, the vinegar of someone else's alpha became a poison for her body that killed her.
"And Phatsa's parents, in fact, were connected by ordinary human love." Alpha and omega can't just have ordinary human love. They still have instincts. This is an omegaverse, and it's also of animal origin, which we were made aware of in Lakorn, not the human world. Phatsa's parents were a couple, even though her father didn't tag her. They had an instinctive connection, which caused the alpha who lost his omega to go crazy, and his brain and entire body literally broke down from such a loss. If the alpha's body had not recovered from this, otherwise it would have threatened death in the truest sense of the word.
"Therefore, if Phat had not met Nakhon in that fight, but some other true alpha, that alpha could have easily bitten Phat the same way." That fight was at the end of the first episode, review the episode carefully and then you will see that at the time of that fight with the alphas, Phatsa was already in heat and at the same time his barrier protection worked. He should be vulnerable, but he didn't let any alphas near him, and before Nakhon appeared, on an instinctive level of protection, he had already scattered all the alphas, and this is precisely because Phatsa is a pure strong omega. And we saw and understood using your example that no other alpha can bite a Phatsu.
And if Phats is a pure omega, then his mother was also a pure omega. Only a pure omega can give birth to a pure omega, an ordinary omega cannot do this. An ordinary omega does not have pure blood, and indicators like Phat's are passed down from strong pureblood parents and their ancestors.
And now the most interesting thing: why did Phatsa weaken just before Nakhon? Because Nakhon is his true soulmate. Yes, Phatsa subconsciously did not understand this, but his body worked on the level of instincts, and against the call of his true alpha, the omega's body and body would not be able to resist. His body and instincts opened up to the truth. And Nakhon is the true alpha of Phatsa, and therefore only he was able to break through its protective barrier.
"there is no other true alpha" β there are no other true alphas. There is only one true soulmate, this is a kindred spirit and he is the only one. You don't even know the basic concept of true in omegaverse, what else can I say.
Let me remind you, I'm on vacation))) I'll send you as many screenshots as you want, please contact
I'm already pretty tired of this conversation, which really won't lead to anything. Therefore, dear @Margaret_Sun, I read everything honestly. I don't agree with you, but I don't see any point in discussing this further, and I just don't want to. I'll stick to my opinion, and you'll stick to yours. And let's leave it at that)
And even more so in the case of Phatsa. He knows how to build a protective barrier against other people's alphas, and this was also made clear to us by Lacrne, in the first episode, in a fight with alphas, and moreover he was bitten by his true alpha, a mark that no alpha will definitely kill. So it doesn't matter here.
I don't understand how you can not see the omegaverse in omegaverse, and also compare it with the ordinary human world, if this lacorn omegaverse and the director and screenwriter clearly present all aspects of this omegaverse to us on a platter.
And I didn't catch anyone inattentive. I explained everything very clearly in the answers to this topic above.
@LaFeeTioka: You're right. The tree that Nakhin Ongse dragged is most likely a kumquat. At first I thought maybe it was a tangerine. But for a mandarin, the fruits will be clearly too small. Nakhon really smells like citrus. Maybe that kumquat. And he wanted to let everyone feel the approximate scent of his pheromones. He's Beta, and Beta doesn't smell pheromones.
*** And the "Quiet Heat"*** in the description of the third brother, Naphitch, is a description of the character and power of his dominant pheromones. It's not in heat, although omega fever is in heat. But Naphitch is the Alpha. And the Quiet heat is the hidden, deep, enveloping and hypnotizing male energy of his Alpha. It is the warmth of the campfire that warms omega, lures him and makes him obey. Now I hope the picture will be clearer. I'm sorry for getting into the discussion.
Here you are writing, based on the screenshot of your own answer, that only a soulmate can bite a pure omega, and only a pure omega can give birth directly. Okay, let's say our moral dad was like that for Phatsa's mom, they just decided to live without a piece, but HOW!! then her (being pregnant)could another alpha bite??? After all, based on your comment, is this only available to a soulmate??? And when I say the denial of connection, I don't mean in my head. And, the fact that she decided not to create and maintain this connection with the bitten one, but chose to live on instincts with the non-bitten one. Fuck knows, maybe I'm writing incomprehensibly, of course, but in my head I seem to be explaining everything logically)))
If anyone has something to say, I'd love to read it. Without sarcasm and jokes only. Personally, I have absolutely no goal to hurt or stab anyone. Well, what if I got everyone, and no one wants to mess with me, well))) I'll also be understanding. I'll open the window myself.
@vera24: I apologize for interfering. Phatse's father told me that his mother was bitten by an Alpha. But he didn't say that Alpha had given her vinegar when she was pregnant. It didn't happen.
And it is not possible to bite a pregnant Omega in any way, because she already has a connection with the Alpha father of the child, even without a label there is a connection. This once again confirms that Phatsa's mother could not have been marked pregnant. If the mark of someone else's alpha had killed her, then Phatsu could have killed her, too, if that had happened. He would not have been born and died with his mother. If the body of the mother, a pure Omega, did not accept the mark of someone else's Alpha and she died, it means that he is not her true one. And her true soulmate may have been Phatsa's father. And this once again explains why Phatsa's father broke down from the loss of his Omega. She was his true mate.
And what happens to true couples when one of them suffers, we saw with the example of Phatsa and Nakhon, when a piece of wood fell on Phatsa or when Nakhon was shot at. They could feel each other's pain. And they can die without each other, they made it clear to us. But they have a stronger bond because Nakhon tagged Phatsu. And they have such a strong bond because of the mark.
And if Phatsa's father had marked his mother, his Omega wife, they would have had the same bond as Nakhon and Phatsa. And if his Omega died, Phatsa Alpha's father could have died. But if it was he who marked her, then the other one would definitely not be able to break his mark.
If you add everything up along the chain, then everything turns out to be clear: Phatsa pure Omegaβpure Omega can only give birth to pure OmegaβPhatsa's mother pure OmegaβPhatsa's mother's body perceived someone else's mark as poison and she diedβPhatsa's mother's body did not accept someone else's mark, because this mark is not her true Alpha, soulmate, a kindred spiritβ if she was marked and killed by someone else's Alpha, then her real soulmate is her Alpha, her husband and Phatsa's fatherβif her Alpha had marked her, the other one would not have interrupted the mark, because the mark would have been her true Alpha.
The second chain: ** a pregnant Omega, especially from her Alpha, and it is already impossible to connect with herβ someone else's Alpha marked her later when the child was bornβthere was no way before pregnancy, someone else's mark was poison for her and her body was poisoned and weak, she would not have physically endured and would not have given birth to a child when she herself was dying**.
If you know all the aspects of Omegaverse and look closely at the details in lacorn, then it's not difficult to put together such logical chains and figure everything out.
Therefore, @Margaret_Sun's arguments are quite logical. It's not in her defense or anything. It's just that I myself, as an Omegaverse lover, have drawn conclusions from what I saw and put together chains of important links in my head. Here.
@vera24: I apologize. I remembered that my father had told Phatse that an alien Alpha, his enemy, had bitten his mother shortly before he was born. It's not long before pregnancy. He couldn't bite a pregnant Omega in any way.
There is another chain here: ** First, there was a tragic bite from someone else's Alphaβ after that (or in the process of these dramatic events), Phatsa's mother becomes pregnant by her legitimate partner (Phatsa's father) β she is struggling for life, I forgot when I wrote the previous chain that she is a pure Omega, which means her body is strongerβ she manages to carry a child, give birth to it, and only after that she dies from exhaustion and the effects of poisoning by someone else's mark. Now it's even more correct.
@PandaIT: I'm sorry about the beginning of their conversation, I didn't remember it. I reviewed and checked it. Yes, Phatsa's mom was pregnant.
Then there's another chain here: The absence of the true mark of her Alpha, her Alpha husband, who bit her, he is of the highest rank, and Phatsa's father, as we know, was an ordinary Alpha bite not long before giving birthβthe venomous bite did not have time to affect the child in such a time, because it first affected his motherβ the mother resisted not only subconsciously On an instinctive level, her body rejected someone else's mark, reacted to it like poison, she held on with her last strength and managed to give birthβand then died. Is it clear now? It couldn't have been clearer, it seemed. Here.
Back in the second episode, when Phatse was told about the omegaverse world, he was told that omega and alpha, who had just formed a bond, should not be separated, because symptoms of some kind of bond fever could begin, which is very painful and can sometimes lead to death (which apparently happened to Phatse's mother). That's actually why they dragged him into the house and are holding him.
The body of a pure Omega can only accept its true Alpha and his mark, this is due to instincts. The non-perception of other people's marks in pure Omegas is also conditioned by the body at the level of instinct. If a pure Omega is bitten by someone else's Alpha, not her true one, the Omega's body perceives this bite as poison! Did you get it now?
Don't forget that we're watching Omegavers, and the world of Omegavers is always driven by instincts, especially since it was made clear here at Lacorn that the origin of this Omegaverse is also from the animal kingdom, and animals are definitely based on instincts.
There are tons of comments on this topic and you haven't read or assimilated any of them properly. And you give out such nonsense.
Nastya, thank you for the most detailed analysis of the plot (once again).
You can't say it better, everything is clear, everything is clear
People who rarely leave comments write reviews here, and I read them with interest.
If there were awards / pictures here like on a FicBook, I would definitely find someone to reward...
you, of course.
Daniel, to whom thanks for an amazing conversation about omegaverse!
And some other people who rarely appear in reviews, but aptly))
I think "Knot" has already won the nomination this year - the bl series with the hottest, even heated comments.
Although disliking is more often an assessment of a comment rather than a personality, but if the tone of communication is already tense, disliking looks like adding oil to the fire and is perceived as disrespectful.
When a dislike is given massively or purposefully to one author, it is already a form of pressure and definitely unethical.
God, I'm not even interested in this series as much as I spend time on it. I just wanted to watch the boys fuck, but I got involved in hell.
I take another screenshot, I think, bitch, you would have worked better with such enthusiasm.
Only a pure Omega can give birth to a pure Omega. Purity with genes is inherited. Google this fact in Omegaverse on the Internet and read it yourself and see for yourself. Phatsa's father is an ordinary Alpha, as we know, then from whom did Phatsa inherit his purity genes? His mother is from her mother, Phats is from her mother, it's so transmitted.
To claim that a pure Omega was born from an ordinary Omega is like claiming that a puppy was born from a cat.
At the end, you read at the bottom, in fine print, after the AI's answer. It always says: "Check the answers. The AI may be wrong."
This one?
I was amused by the stairs again. And another Ai with a vegetable smoothie appeared on the front.π
A heartfelt conversation scene between Phatsa and his father turned out. It's good that my father admitted his mistakes. I assumed that Phatsa didn't know about the Omegaverse world because it was deliberately hidden from him. After such torments of his mother, it is not surprising that his father hid it from him. He was trying to protect his son. He did everything right, except for one thing β he abandoned his son, it's cruel. I hope that now he will be by Phatsoy's side and correct his mistakes.
Phats feels sorry that he feels trapped by fate. It's so hard and painful for him in his soul. How much he has to endure: to find out that you are an Omega at such an adult age, a late and painful restructuring of the body, raging hormones, and now pregnancy, another stress for poor Phatsa.
Interestingly, everyone around has already realized that the replenishment is coming, but poor Phatsa does not suspect anything. He does not understand what is happening around him and with him, why this sudden overprotection of him began. He doesn't understand why Nakhon suddenly became so caring towards him. Poor Phatsa is disoriented, as they say. It was very nice to see how happy Nakhon flew in from work, kissing Phatsu on the tummy, so glowing, shining.
And another wonderful aspect of the Omegaverse world was shown β Nesting. As a pregnant Phatsa needs the warm soothing pheromones of his Alpha, he even keeps his shirt under his pillow. And how nice it was to see how Nakhong, saving Phatsa from unnecessary trouble, carefully built such a cozy nest of his pheromone-soaked belongings, so vital for Phatsa and their baby. It made my heart melt.
And the icing on the cake this time is Nakhin and Ongsa. The way Nakhin takes care of Ongsa and tries to convey his tangerine scent to beta with the help of a citrus bush looked incredibly touching and symbolic. And what a big degree of heat they gave this lakorn!
But the domineering father significantly miscalculated, trying to switch his matrimonial plans to his second son. Nakhin obviously won't let his life be ruined.
And I'm looking forward to the development of the Naphitch and Sangnua couple's relationship in the next episode!
Logically, in the next episode, the third couple will bring dessert, and I already have a ladle for them, I don't agree to eat their cupcake with a smaller device.
And if the creators decide to show what all three couples are capable of in one of the episodes, then this one, if anything, I live in St. Petersburg, on the board, if I'm gone for a long time, look for me there and pump me out.
What diameter did you take a ladle, I borrowed it from Barbie in the house, and I think it's big)))
Nevertheless, the impression is more positive (I make allowances for the fact that few people have filmed omegavers before) than negative, I'm waiting for what will be shown to us next.
And after landing on the bed, they regained their former shape. But I agree, of course, that the hair was too neatly folded after the flight. In any case, Ongsa had to look at least a little shaggy, but still.π
I've read a lot of omegaverses before and I'm reading now, and I know a lot about this world, and it allows me to figure out what's going on here.
Here the person asked for the analysis here, I answered clearly based on those omegaverses that I read, I realized that hormones in childhood are unstable. There was even a clear description of a case where a child was tested, analyzed, and it turned out to be incorrect.
At least I look deep and draw conclusions from what I've read, I've studied this Omegavers topic, and my arguments are not out of the box.
Explain to me what I'm wrong about. Please do not silently dislike, but give your reasons.
I also wanted to say that I often notice that you evaluate what is happening in the series based on a certain "canon" that you have developed from reading fanfiction or originals. but, in my opinion, the story should be evaluated based on what is shown and told in the story itself, and not from the ideas formed by other works.
I would understand this approach if we were talking, for example, about a documentary or historical events, where there really is an established canon of facts. but omegaverse does not have a canon as such: each author has his own rules and his own world structure. therefore, it seems to me that it is worth evaluating what is happening based on the data that we are given in the series itself.
I don't read fanfiction, but short stories. And without them, I studied the concept of the Omegaverse world. That's why I rely on everything. If you don't read, don't be interested, it means you don't know the concepts and canons of the Omegaverse world as a whole, and then how can you watch and evaluate the Omegaverse film adaptation without understanding anything about it, if you are far from it?
Lakorn was also not filmed from stupidity, but also based on concepts and terms, probably from the same novels.
about whether you need to have any knowledge in order to evaluate the work. on the one hand, yes, it's not bad if the person who watches lacorn about omegavers already knows the main features of this system and understands what options there are for such a world. then it's interesting to compare how different authors interpret the same concept.
but ideally, the story itself should explain its world in such a way that even to a person who has never encountered omegaverse before, everything is clear.
It's just that if I disagree with an opinion, I prefer not to dislike it, but post my arguments in response.
You can also express your opinion, and not be based on someone else's feedback.
Even if you agree with another opinion, convey it in your own way to the right person. And that's when a person doesn't want to repeat himself, it turns out he doesn't have his own thoughts and there's simply nothing to share.
If the topic requires a deeper understanding and careful analysis, and you are not familiar with the details and are not ready to delve into the essence, and also do not have your own arguments and judgments, it may be better to refrain from evaluating altogether.
in response, I was asked to clarify the dislikes, and as far as I understand, I heard the following: if I agree with someone else's opinion, it means that I don't have my own opinion and I'm forming my opinion on someone else's, which is not true.
by the way, I tried to end the conversation peacefully, with a virtual handshake and a promise not to silently dislike a particular user, since it's so important, but apparently that wasn't enough either and now I need to not dislike at all...
This is no offense to you. It's just that this conclusion came out of your interesting discussion. π
I'll give you a specific example from the comments to one of the previous series. There, a man who did not understand omegaverse interpreted the situation of blindfolded Nakhon as a role-playing game. However, this is actually an important aspect of the omegaverse world: alpha shows his submissiveness to omega so as not to cause him discomfort, especially when omega is still weak and vulnerable β as in the case of Phatsa, who suddenly developed omega traits in adulthood. Nakhon knew about this and tried not to frighten Phatsu with his harsh behavior, especially since he had already demonstrated his strength to him once.
Such misunderstanding is a common occurrence among those who are not familiar with the genre. I've even seen reviews where Nakhon and Phatsu were simply called assets and liabilities, which already indicates a complete ignorance of the basics of omegaverse, because even the basic concepts of who alphas and omegas are are explained and shown in detail here.
You wrote: "ideally, the story itself should explain its world in such a way that even to a person who has never encountered omegaverse before, everything is clear."
In this case, lacorne shows their vision of omegaverse and reveals key aspects in detail, but if the viewer has no experience with this genre, they may still misinterpret what is happening.
Omegavers is a separate and rather complex genre, and if you are new to it, it can be very difficult to logically understand all the nuances the first time.
Therefore, if you are not familiar with omegavers at all, it may be worth learning the basics first before watching and even more so evaluating such stories.
I agree, omegavers is a complex genre and I sometimes wonder myself - Who and when invented the classic omegavers, laid its foundations, terminology?
And they were tacitly recognized by a large part of the audience.
He really is a classic omegaverse, let's say, and his knowledge helps to read/watch stories that already have their own nuances, deviations from the "classics of the genre."
At first, I greatly underestimated this lacorn, considering that it was much inferior to "ABO desire", which aesthetically shows much more beautiful markings and gon and so on.
It's more visually pleasing, in my opinion.
But now, as the series progresses, I see how much detail everything is explained about this world.
They try to explain directly to the audience what's what and why, well, in their own way, how exactly everything works in this lacorn.
After reading dozens, maybe even hundreds, of omega-esque fanfiction, it certainly makes it easier for me to watch the film adaptations.
And then I didn't go right away, I didn't appreciate this series from the very beginning, precisely in terms of revealing the genre.
By the way, I'm NOT a fan of the classic omegaverse, but knowing it helps me watch such series.
And it took me a while to realize how well this lacorn was shot, precisely in terms of explaining this world.
In this genre, I found my favorite side branch in fanfiction - Unconventional, inside the traditional omegaverse.
I like to read about omega with omega, about alpha with alpha and even about beta with beta))
I found such an offshoot and I like it the most.
I'm sure one day there will be bl series with such main characters, when they screen a sufficient number of classic omegavers.
But in order to get to this side branch and understand that this is mine, I first reread a lot of "classics", let's say.
The comparison with ABO Desire is very accurate here, because these two projects show radically different approaches to the genre: ABO Desire relies on visual aesthetics, the artistic beauty of tags, gonads and mystical connection through the prism of the viral origin of the world and the rare gender of Enigma.
The knot, on the contrary, takes precisely the qualitative disclosure of the nature of classical ent. He's more down-to-earth, but he literally chews up the viewer's mouth and social structure. And it's cool that this series explains the rules of its world in such detail, and not just exploits a beautiful picture of pheromones.
By the way, Alpha/Alpha or Omega unions/Omega is an amazing trope. Character struggles or general difficulties make such plots very deep. And I'm also sure that when the classics of omegaverse, let's say, "get bored" with the audience, the film industry will definitely get to these unconventional branches within the genre, because the audience always wants something new and non-standard.
Omegavers is a very popular literary genre today. His story really began in May 2010. @Daniell_Chik is really right.
And I'll add that Omegavers developed something like this:
1..The genre originated in the online community Live Journal on the TV series "Supernatural".
2. The authors were inspired by animal biology and the concept of the hierarchy of wolf packs. This is how the alpha, beta, and omega model of society emerged.
3 Later, the concepts of Alpha, Beta, and Omega were applied to human relationships. It helped to explore deeper the themes of psychology, instincts, fate, gender roles, sincere feelings and the search for your man.
Initially, the Omegavers genre was an amateur creation, but now its elements are actively used in commercial literature, manga and manhwa.
The Omegavers genre is complex. And even I, as an ardent lover of Omegavers, couldn't immediately figure out the film adaptations of the drama "ABO Desire" and Lakorn Knot. A clearer concept is coming gradually. Each creator shows the world of Omegavers in their own way. It can be almost impossible to understand everything at once. Knowing the Omegavers genre itself, its classic canon and terms, helps you understand the film adaptations very well.
And filming Omegavers is even more difficult. But the creators are doing a great job, in my opinion. In "ABO Desire" it's tougher, but everything is clear. In "Knot" they show much softer and more new aspects, and everything is just as clear. I like both.
Alpha/Alpha and Omega Trails/Omega is cool. I read that too. And I would really like to see it on the screen. Hopefully, there will be such releases too. I'd like to see it. Maybe someday they will please us with this.
And by the way, here, in the lacorn "Node", there is also an equally interesting and not quite classic trail: Alpha / Beta. And the authors present it very smartly, in all its manifestations.
@NastyaM999:
Nastya, thank you for your contribution to the discussion.
The series had previously raised the issue of the origin of the omegavers genre, and a person in the discussions there also wrote detailed reviews with approximate dates and titles of the series on which the first fanfiction appeared.
And if I remember correctly, according to the human version, the roots go back almost to the middle of the 20th century ...
I remember that in the 1960s, as much as a year ...
Maybe I'm confusing something, I remember so.
Thanks to that person for searching.
But still, it probably wasn'T the classic omegaverse, but its precursors.
But it was the "classics of the genre" with clear terminology and its own laws that appeared in 2010, just like you and @Daniell_Chik: write.
I believe you))
And now I know almost the exact date without a day - May 2010 - the birth of the classic omegaverse.
The beta trail with someone is also very interesting, yes, even in omega, even with alpha ππ
As for the bl series on this topic, we are at the forefront.
The first alleged film adaptation of Omegavers is PitBabe π
They took the names and stuck them on - alphas, enigmas...
They hardly explained anything about this topic, then they forgot about it altogether))
But a lot of places "PitBabe" is referred to as a bl series in the omegavers genre))
Well, there are constant disputes around this genre.
And there are 3 main radically different points of view.
Some claim that Omegavers is a disguised Geth.
Others swear that this is "the highest degree of perversion," like "you don't have enough gays, so you can also give pregnant men, are you losing your mind?!"
Omegavers has a lot of very haters.
People who recognize omegavers as a separate genre and phenomenon in bl content and love it very much and often appreciate it even more than the usual slash/bl real.
@Ayana85: Pete Babe is a great lacorn in his own right. But omegavers are conditional there. Only the names of the ranks are used. Omegas are not mentioned in the plot. The central path is Alpha/Alpha. Babe and Charlie are both alphas.
The topic of Enigmas is covered superficially. Only their superiority is shown a little: they made it clear that an Alpha can have a child with Enigma, and Enigma is the most powerful being in the Omegaverse, that even Alphas cannot resist him. And this is much more detailed, I would even say that it is almost completely revealed in "ABO Desire".
Pete Babe is an urban fantasy. The focus there is on superpowers and opposing the main Alpha villain. Pheromones and other other important aspects are not even mentioned there.
About the roots from the 1960s: Then the harbinger slash was really born. It was a Star Trek fandom. Omegavers itself appeared in 2010.
As for opinions about the genre: Those points of view are subjective and superficial. They do not fully reflect the essence.
I totally agree with statement number 3. Omegavers is a unique artistic phenomenon. He really deserves respect. And he has his own rules.
And I categorically disagree with the opinion that Omegavers is a disguised Geth, number 1. This is far from the case.
There is an Omega male in Omegaverse, and it is no longer a geth.
An omega man is not a woman. He has a man's psychology, a man's social role. In this case, if the man is an omega, Omegavers explores new facets of masculinity. He breaks down the usual gender stereotypes.
The biology of the fictional world is important here. Pheromones, truthfulness, hierarchy of ranks. There are no such mechanisms in Goethe. This is an independent and unique phenomenon.
If the Alpha is a man, which it is anyway, and plus the Omega is a man, and two men together, it's not a geth in any way.
So it's wrong to think of Omegavers as a Geth in disguise.
Milk actually played the role of Willy perfectly. It was strong. Moreover, the negative character is difficult. He needs to be given his due. Clever girl.
Oh, I already remember what date in September and where to look for it in which new series π
Even though he's gray/ash-colored and painted for nothing, he's still a handsome man.
My fantasy in Pitbabe didn'T come true, I wanted him to actually be in love with Charlie...
it turned out not, after all, he was really into Babe.
But, all the same, he's a super Zai for me.
And almost never appears anywhere ((
They would have invited me here to the "Knot"))
Alpha to play))
Milk is rarely removed ((
For some reason, it seems to me that Phat is not pregnant. Of course, it's nice that everyone is fussing with him like a crystal ball because of this, but I seriously think that a child is superfluous here now. Nevertheless, the relationship between Nakhon and Phat is still quite fragile, they lack knowledge about each other, communication, and establishing just the connection that instinct formed for them. And Phat himself doesn't seem to have digested the whole omegaverse emotionally yet, plus he doesn't know or understand many aspects of this world. And no one tells him much about them, which is extremely sad. All his symptoms are an adaptation to what is happening and an attempt to regain emotional stability for himself and his head. And talking about his mom and the whole situation had obviously drained him a lot. Plus, even with all the beauty, excessive care can sometimes be exhausting too. π€·βοΈ In all this fuss about pregnancy, which for some reason no one talks about Phatu, the only good thing is that Nakhon has finally begun to pay more attention and time to him. That's what Phat really needs, especially now.
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I can imagine Nakhon's dad with a face full of shock when he finds out who exactly is the pure omega, or else he decided to marry his second son without even asking if it was necessary or not. Nakhin has already got everything right there)
It turns out that the secret name "No. 3 - quiet heat" hides the smell of kumquat... It would also be nice to remember exactly what kumquat smells like.
But lakorn "Knot" is not just a human drama, but an omegaverse, where biology and instincts always go ahead without asking the characters if they are mentally ready.
The creators of the series literally laid out all the classic Omega pregnancy markers for us: "Quiet heat" (the smell of kumquat) is not just a beautiful perfume name, but a hormonal signal of the body.
Nesting, the scene where Phatsa hides Nakhon's shirt under a pillow and reaches for his things for the smell, is an undeniable, purely biological symptom of pregnancy and hormonal adjustment in the world of ABO. Psychology can't explain it.
It's no accident that the director shows us this fuss and overprotective attitude from Nakhon. His inner Alpha has already understood everything and turned on the instinct of "nest protection" to the maximum.
And the child is definitely not superfluous here β he is the main engine of the plot, which finally binds the true couple together, breaking all the plans of Nakhon's father to marry a pure omega to the wrong son.
A shirt under the pillow and a craving for the smell of his alpha β this is how Nakhon is at home for three and a half minutes, and spends even less time with Phat. Phat is on his own all the time, he sleeps alone, walks alone, eats alone. They obviously don't show it to us, but they tell us that they rarely see each other there because of Nakhon's work. A natural Phat longs for a partner and wants to smell him closer to himself. And Nakhon himself built the nest, again thinking that it was necessary because of pregnancy. Phat himself did not build anything.
Moving the plot with a child is not like watching a cheap TV series where one partner tries to hold the other or draw attention to himself with his pregnancy... In this project, in my opinion, it takes up quite a lot of space exactly how Phat tries to digest everything and adapt to his new world. It may not be very revealing and understandable, but still the lion's share of everything that happens is devoted to his inner experience. Instincts are instincts, but there is also an ordinary person with an ordinary habitual worldview. And he clearly lacks just the human attention and care from Nakhon.
As for the father's plans to connect his second son with a pure omega, nothing would have happened there without a child. The pure omega is already connected to the eldest son. Without a child or with a child, life has already played out for dad in the best possible way. If Nakhon had been without a partner, then his father would have imposed a pure omega on him, and then fate itself would have decided everything. For dad, this is just the most ideal option β everything is exactly as he wanted)
I see from novels and manchas, this genre is being covered as best they can, and there is no justice for them))
Maybe someone has an ABO survival manual? I'm going there soon, but what should I do and how should I behave there if I'm an alpha at home, omezhka in a cupcake, and betka with friends
Thank you all, you are wonderful.
@Call_me_bunny:
Well, you're so diverse...
it's simple for me, I'm a beta and that's it))
Welcome back from the South
We also have a rest here ...
almost like at a resort ...
the one where the nervous system is strengthened))
This series is like a charmed one, no matter what the reviews for the new series are, it's all a firework of emotions...
In general, it's an astrological reference, I'll try to take it as a spoiler, I don't know if it will work.
Those who DO NOT believe in astrology at all may NOT read it.
Eclipses and the corridor between them are NOT uncommon, they usually happen a couple of times a year, but this corridor will be special from August 12 to 28.
The atmosphere is already starting to heat up a few days before it, but now everything can still be fixed and we can win back.
But in the corridor itself from 12 to 28, that's it...
For me, this is generally familiar, right in my sign, Leo, and it will close...
If I quarrel with someone at this time, it will NO LONGER be reconciled...
Therefore, I walk modestly and DO NOT interfere in anything...||
Well done for coming, we missed you here.
It's definitely started...
I'm already getting annoyed...
I'm singing my own song, the lyrics are Yesenin's poems:
"You're NOT the first among women...
not a few of you...
but with someone like you with a bitch
It's my first time...
the harmonica rash..."
I got stuck on this song.
Apparently I'm closing the hellshtat...
And you're walking around somewhere...Before the corridor of eclipses...
you don't write anything in my other favorite lacorn.
When I DIDN'T want you to comment there, you came))
When I want you to say your opinion there, on the contrary, you are silent there.
You're blowing it up here...For omegavers...
you're talking about some well-read people, putting the word "well-read" in the bucket, as if zeroing out knowledge.
I'm seeing pebbles in my garden...
but I'm NOT going to blow it up, I don'T want to get into trouble with you.
We haven'T reconciled yet...But like this or that...
purely because it's YOU.
I would have had a debate with another person.
No, it's better for you to go to the comments to "Don't be too emotional" and tell your opinion about the plot there.
I mean, you know what to do in life and where to comment on it.
I'm just saying my opinion from the outside.
And yes, the corridor, especially if there is an eclipse in your sign...
then this is all...
fateful.
I've lost my beloved nephew so much.
She's 7 years younger than me.
Like a sister to me, like my best friend.
No one could break us up, although they tried.
All our lives together.
And into the hallway, as we glitched...
and that's it.
Now no one can reconcile, not her mother, no one.
That's how it got cut off, although we're both worried.
But no, that's all.
In general, I will try NOT to flash until the end of August))
As for the "wellβread" ones, I put them in quotation marks on purpose: the word carries much more meaning than just novels and fanfiction. I didn't throw stones at you. And yes, I'm not changing my point of view: of all the omegaverse lines that I've studied, the scriptwriters haven't brought out at least one clear one. Well, let's not continue this topic. We'd better get to the end, and then we'll see.
During ππ
That's my taste))
When a woman is peppery, she may NOT agree on everything ...
but she knows how to stop at the right time, NOT to bring the situation to a frenzy.
Let's wait here for the further development of the plot.
Well, and new comments...
This is the hottest lacorn on the comms...
It's NOT the first episode...
I have already said and I repeat, this is a very cultural venue.
There's no way people would have split up so easily on a FicBook...
And then everyone spoke out.
Those who remained silent, those who showed likes to whom whose point of view is closer, but this does NOT mean that those who turned out to be on the other side in this dispute, they are now "enemies".
Not at all.
I hope everyone will appear in the reviews whenever they want and speak freely.
Have a nice evening, everyone
Vika-Blackberry
Blackberry-Vetch
Do you like blackberries?π
And in general, the shit in the family resembles the TV series "Matchmakers"
I just remembered the matchmakers rhetorically.
Oh, you're asking for compliments))
The girls love you here))
You know who))
blackberry...Well, maybe I ate it once, I don'T remember the taste.
I've been fed nothing but Snickers since I was a kid))
Fruits were rarely given, especially berries.
Well, you know about soups and stuff...
That's why I don'T know the taste of blackberries.
I haven'T watched the TV series "Matchmakers"))
What to talk to me about at all...
Lucky cometπ
Yana will whisper to you in the personal account if anything)))