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s01e12 — Kalends of February

Rome — s01e12 — Kalends of February

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Duration: 55 min.
Released: 20.11.200521.11.2005 05:00
Watched by: 17 60455.81%
1 season
s01e12
s01e08 - Caesarion
s01e09 - Utica
s01e10 - Triumph
s01e11 - The Spoils
s01e12 - Kalends of February
s02e01 - Passover
s02e02 - Son of Hades
s02e03 - These Being the Words of Marcus Tullius Cicero
s02e04 - Testudo Et Lepus (The Tortoise and the Hare)

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kiradotee
kiradotee
13 Jul 2015, 02:47 #
Something like this. :(
vishnyamalinka
vishnyamalinka
04 Oct 2015, 16:34 #
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DeadParrot11
DeadParrot11
04 Aug 2020, 19:58 #
That's the whole joke of the series: to show ordinary people against the background of historical events
vishnyamalinka
vishnyamalinka
04 Aug 2020, 22:16 #
@DeadParrot11: And what about the historical facts?
sasatsuee
sasatsuee
PRO
28 Aug 2023, 01:01 #
Did you hold a candle?
longvampire
longvampire
29 Nov 2021, 14:02 #
@vishnyamalinka: Well, it's still a work of art.
serobik
serobik
06 Feb 2016, 01:07 #
AAAAAAAAAAA, THE FUCKING DOGS KILLED THE GREATEST MAN OF ALL TIME. DOGS ARE JUST
mary-frost
mary-frost
23 Mar 2016, 02:14 #
Well, what can I say? Hurtful
lostlost
lostlost
28 Jul 2016, 19:10 #
an unexpected ending
furSy
furSy
10 Nov 2021, 21:40 #
@lostlost: Yeah, for those who missed history lessons.
Michael_Wittmann
Michael_Wittmann
09 Oct 2016, 21:53 #
Ave Caesar! :(
ichigin
ichigin
12 Oct 2016, 19:59 #
I still don't get it. Did Caesar say "And you, Brutus"?
Dimitri_B
Dimitri_B
18 Feb 2017, 09:02 #
@ichigin: Well, here he kind of said with a look. Apparently, they decided that the stabbed dying man could not loudly proclaim such phrases.
nalary
nalary
01 Mar 2017, 04:45 #
@Dimitri_B: He didn't actually say that there. according to one version, he said another phrase, according to another version he was silent.
According to Suetonius, the last words of Gaius Julius were the phrase in Greek "καὶ σύ, τέκνον" ("And you, my child?"). According to Plutarch, Caesar said nothing when he saw Brutus among the assassins. The exclamation attributed to Caesar, who saw that Brutus was about to strike, "And you, Brutus?" is a quote from the play "Julius Caesar"[1] by William Shakespeare and is not contained in historical sources
anni713
anni713
05 Sep 2024, 22:09 #
I think when he almost cried, it was a kind of "and you, my child?"
Grimnir
Grimnir
16 Mar 2017, 16:53 #
Dogs!!
chelovechek
chelovechek
22 Jun 2017, 20:47 #
A very tragic ending. It was obvious about Caesar from the very beginning, his death was not news here, but the wife of Lucius Vorenus is very sorry. He will blame himself for her death for the rest of his life.
Караба_Барабас
Караба_Барабас
23 Dec 2017, 21:02 #
I didn't cry like that even when Hachiko was watching. The pathetic sons of bitches killed a great man. Brutus is a rooster.
Howard_Joel
Howard_Joel
07 Dec 2018, 10:51 #
Ohhhhhh.... It was obvious about Caesar from history. But about the wife of Lucius Vareno.... very sorry.
khitushko
khitushko
01 Feb 2020, 00:41 #
My heart is breaking from the last 10 minutes
Okami1993
Okami1993
29 Feb 2020, 17:27 #
If after watching the historical series (without controversy about full compliance with the documents) you wanted to read about the events, then the creators coped with their task. There is nothing more to say, before season 2 I will read about the life and deeds of the great ones.
Ave!
bezdelneg
bezdelneg
20 May 2020, 23:49 #
@Okami1993: that's right, Wikipedia has become my best friend since I started watching it))
KaterinaVoyler
KaterinaVoyler
02 Mar 2020, 03:39 #
"I don't want to jump into the arena, Cicero. So I have to please the people in a different way.
- Build another temple, kill someone! It's easy for people to like it!

Little has changed since the Roman Republic)))
Konyx
Konyx
22 May 2020, 13:47 #
One of the best episodes of the season with a tragic ending. I am very sorry for Lucia.
wert
wert
02 Aug 2020, 20:41 #
It is very similar to modern Russia with the destruction of parliament, elections and democracy
renatamarten
renatamarten
28 Jan 2021, 02:04 #
These two vile aunts have ruined so many people. One fool pushed her son into betrayal and murder because of personal accounts, the second one generally changed her shoes all season and shat on everyone she could reach, which is not surprising that her daughter, who is always at hand, got the most.
(I missed the moment why she disliked Servilia so much and never understood why she was spoiling her life, but they are worth each other, two snakes)
Alinielis
Alinielis
11 Apr 2021, 14:49 #
@renatamarten: She didn't seem to like the fact that Caesar paid Servilia a lot of attention, she was jealous of her famous uncle. Atia helped them break up, and then they started putting sticks in each other's wheels.
One_day_you_may
One_day_you_may
20 Mar 2021, 05:54 #
I think she got overreacted with the fall from the balcony. I was in a hurry. But with Caesar, everything is very fast, I thought he would leave in the second season🤷🏽♂️
independence777
independence777
12 Aug 2021, 01:23 #
People who write "a great man was killed" - did you really not notice the main idea that we were led to throughout the season? We saw how Caesar usurped power, undermined trust in all public institutions in a few years, destroyed parliament, plunged the country into corruption. The conspirators against him talked about saving the republic, and it was not for nothing that they voiced to us exactly the form of government - they fought in many ways precisely for the ideals on which the whole state was based
Dimitri_B
Dimitri_B
12 Aug 2021, 07:39 #
@independence777: the post was paid for by optimates!
Irish_Ethan
Irish_Ethan
14 Dec 2021, 13:03 #
@independence777: any competent historian will tell you that the republic outlived its usefulness by the first century BC. Caesar only accelerated the inevitable.
von_Himik
von_Himik
27 Jan 2022, 02:36 #
@independence777: What nonsense. By that time, the republic had rotted through and through, turning into an oligarchy, where most of the resources (loot, to put it simply) were distributed in favor of several aristocratic families. And corruption was no longer a vice, but a way of governing the country. The elite of the republic, to simplify it, was divided into two camps - populars and optimates. Optimates are the very oligarchs who sought to preserve the current state of things, when almost all the land belongs to them, all power belongs to them, the plebs have no rights. In contrast to the optimates, the populars sought to limit the power of the aristocracy, expand the civil liberties of the lower strata of the population and extend Roman law to Latins, Italians and other allies. And Caesar, surprisingly, belonged to the populars. And they killed him not because of "freedom", but because with his reforms he quite severely infringed on the interests of the aristocracy (in favor of the people, if it is still not clear, and not because he is a saint, but because the people were his support in power). In the series, in this very episode, this is fully reflected. And in previous episodes, too. So the main idea here is clearly not the one that you have come up with.

Moreover, Caesar could have avoided such a fate by clearing out the entire opposition. But he did not do this, forgiving them and allowing them to continue to remain in power. And here it is - gratitude. If he had followed Sulla's example, he would have died of old age.

In general, Rome then faced a fork in the road: either the aristocracy (for example, in the person of Cassius and Brutus) would defeat the centralizing forces (in the person of Sulla, Caesar, Octavian) and the country would collapse into several smaller oligarchies so that everyone would be more comfortable pumping out all the juices from their piece and not sharing, or centralization would defeat the aristocracy and the whole the fullness of power will be in one hand, but the country will survive. Sulla did not succeed, Caesar did it in a limited way, but Octavian coped.
longvampire
longvampire
29 Nov 2021, 14:02 #
Izhka, of course, was upset.
hartman8
hartman8
30 Nov 2021, 16:47 #
A great season finale. And now you look, little has changed since then. The same problems, the same power, the same people
FeelGoodPWNZ
FeelGoodPWNZ
PRO
09 Apr 2023, 15:25 #
It looks very stupid and as if an owl is being pulled on a globe, how can a slave whose husband was killed leave with his killer and even take his hands at the end of the series? Or is she still hatching an evil revenge plan, or does she have any priorities of her own
anni713
anni713
05 Sep 2024, 22:15 #
It seemed strange to me too
strogan
strogan
01 May 2023, 20:24 #
Well, Caesar is more liberal than the Senate. He made laws for citizens and pushed them into the power of ordinary people. And for the Senate, all tribes.
Yuven
Yuven
21 Sep 2024, 13:59 #
The final is expected
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