One thing I don't understand is why everyone thinks that Alaric has stopped being a vampire forever? It seems to me that if he crosses the border again, then all the forces will return to him, well, that is, at least such a proposal should have been made by one of the characters in the series, Elena, for example.
To become a vampire, you have to die. When Alaric crossed the border, his body returned to the moment when he was dying (at the moment of becoming a vampire) - but he did not die, but was saved. Therefore, if he is transported across the border, nothing will change :)
That was the first thought that came to my mind when we heard all this from Caroline. And all this grief, in my opinion, was from the fact that Alaric would not want to cross the border and they would not see each other. And then there are memories...
I agree, most likely Boney will return with that guy after the teleporter's remount, and the ultimate goal will be to soak him, he also takes away magic from others
well, now a little bit of stupidity from this series
1. let's start with the fact that these u **k decided to wait right near the border, 500-1000 m is not an option 2. Stefan pulled out Damon and Enzo, they went abroad and were stupid there in Troy, recovered and watched Alaric die, very smart 3. The witch must have rushed on a broom because there is not a single car in sight 4. he has a torn part of the aorta, what the fuck is a hemostatic gauze, it will stop bleeding outwards and not internally, what kind of doctors went to America
Of course, the series is full of all sorts of events, but God, why ruin such a cool character like Alaric? It was interesting to see how he coped with vampire difficulties. Elena has completely lost her mind. Without those feelings for Damon, she's kind of incomplete as a character. And isn't it enough to cross the border for 10 seconds to bring back all the memories that Alaric erased? However, typical Diaries. There are tragedies everywhere.
Well, it's clear why they fucked up Alaric. If he had remained a vampire, Elena would have asked him to return her memories and all the end of story. And so the drama with Elena and Damon will last until the end of the season :)
this is according to normal logic, well, not according to the logic of screenwriters who have already stirred up so much that they themselves do not know how suggestion works))
Maybe it came off. You never know why Elena looked at Damon like that at the end :)) Although, of course, it is unlikely that the screenwriters will do everything so easily.
And here's the answer, Alaric has to die in order for the suggestion to be lifted. No one said that it would be removed if the vampire became human again.
Alaric inspired it with the help of vampire charms. Logically, there is no magic in it anymore, so there is no suggestion. Similarly, magic disappears when a vampire dies.
How do you know how things work there? Are all experts like that?! there were no such cases before, the scriptwriters decided that it would be like this (i.e., you need to die to remove the spell) this is their reality. why the stupid arguments about logic
I don't understand why Elena decided not to return her memory at all. Isn't she interested in what kind of love was there? Is he alive right here, or is it just for the sake of intrigue?
@mr_olimpia09: Unlikely. He will become an ordinary vampire, unable to inspire other vampires. And before that, he was the original. His witch, Klaus's mother, turned him
Ahhhh, how much idiocy is in this series >< It was undoubtedly a brilliant idea to stop at the very border. Bottom line: Alaric almost died, but it gets cooler... Was he saved by hemostatic gauze/bandages??? With damage to the aorta. Yes, you're kidding, however. Although what I expected...So everything is clear.
ahaha, and here is the cure for vampirism)) let Elena cross it, and there will be doctors right away)) as soon as she starts dying, let them save her and voila!) Lenka is a human being. no?
Why the suggestion didn't come off when Rick died, I still don't understand. It is clear that the love story needs to be stretched, but it was possible to think over this line in a more interesting way. Or put her on the back burner, and put Rick and the witch, Tyler and Liv as the basis of a love story.
In general, in theory, when a person is turned into a vampire, then all the charms of suggestion are removed from him, as from Elena then. Why this does not work in the opposite direction is not clear.
@gossipoj: Do vampires often become human again? There was the case of Catherine, Tyler and Alaric. And that's the will of chance, no one was specifically looking for a way other than medicine
From the moment of erasing her memory, I was afraid that Rick would leave or cross the circle and not return her memory, I hoped that the writers would not do that, and when this whole situation on the track began, I was worried not for Enzo, Damon, Stefan, but for Rick! I thought please tell me that all this is not in order to leave her without memories! Well, for what? I can imagine how many episodes it will take to solve this whole drama, the "abrupt turn of events" that was read from the very beginning. It just bombs me that everything I thought up there has been implemented and God knows how long it will take
While everyone is arguing amicably whether Elena's memory should have returned, I want to be outraged that every time everything can be fine, Damon is back, the screenwriters spoil everything again and make a tragedy...
And also this season, you can consider that Alaric has already built a future for himself. So that without spoilers, it will continue in the series "Legacy"
I'm reviewing the series and how this clumsiness of "unexpected" plot twists catches my eye. Then she ran away from the room, then he was captured, and now Alaric will not return his memory... Damon is generally incomplete without Elena and only whines about her, it feels like there are no other interests in life. The drama is shorter ☹️
Please explain for the losers. I probably missed this moment. What is this nonsense about the border around the city?why did Stefan go to another city to arrange a new life, and now they all can't leave it??? Did I get something wrong?
It's strange that there are so many negative reviews about season 6. I'm really excited about the ending of season 5 and the beginning of season 6! I loved this series, but in 2017 I started watching season 5, and that's where all this long tedious stuff with the wanderers started. As a result, I never finished watching it. Then in 2018 I tried to finish watching season 5, but it didn't work out. I tried to finish watching it in the spring of 2019, it was also boring. And then I decided to try something for the 4th time. I didn't regret it. After all, at the end of the season, as always, the most interesting thing began. Bottom line: I've already watched episode 6. Wildly delighted. The Vampire Diaries were able to return to the same interesting plot that was in the first two or three seasons, when you watch the series with great interest and want to watch more and more. I didn't think I would watch anymore, so a year ago I spoilered myself a lot of moments (( But even knowing them, I close my eyes and watch. After all, these are not super important things there were) Only if a couple of deaths of the main cast of heroes.
It's strange how this antimagic spell works at all... Ordinary vampires lose their magic when crossing the border and start dying, but then they go abroad and the magic of vampirism returns again. And why doesn't he come back with Alaric?? Why didn't the magic come back to him when he left Mystic Falls?
That is, in previous seasons, after the death of a vampire, all his victims remembered everything, but here, as on Elena, there is still suggestion. Screenwriters, are you serious?
The vampire in this case did not die, but became a human being. But this still contradicts later versions, when humanization removed suggestion (if someone is watching for the second time). And in general, logical errors began to accumulate from season 5, which later led to a complete misunderstanding of the logic of the series.
I'm not even surprised that the writers decided not to give us Delena again. They are constantly coming up with something so that they are not happy. And how did Jo get to the barrier? Walking or running? I didn't see a car anywhere near
Why is Elena acting like a slur? Her memory was erased, she doesn't remember her feelings for Damon, so why the hell is she breaking down and running from him like that? When you don't care about a person, you can say it in his face, and not jump out of windows and make a drama
the screenwriters could: 1) leave the characters' cars 100-500 meters further from the border 2) to return Elena's memory on the occasion of the death of a vampire in Rick 3) bring Stefan back for Rick! 4) return Enzo for Rick!! 5) return Damon for Rick!!! 6) even the doctor had enough strength to drag Rick abroad, where he would be resurrected. (and she knows exactly everything about vampires, as she claims?) 7) already, your mother, ELENA ran after Stefan's call
what did the writers do? they made us shit ourselves again. I have the same hatred for them - as they have for Damon/Delena
@katrrrrrina: if in the next episode this witch doctor doesn't turn Rick back into the original, I'm fucking quitting this series, I can't take this glass anymore
@katrrrrrrrina: why would Stefan and Enzo come back for Rick? They have no reason to do that. Plus (maybe) each of them wanted to give Rick a chance to become a man and live his normal life. At least that's what the "doctor" was pumping Rick out for.
@Sibilla29: "maybe" can be removed from the brackets, because obviously not everyone wanted to lose the original vampire
they don't, but we, the audience, have reasons - over and whatever if everything else in this series is pulled by the ears, it was possible to pull this for the sake of the romantic line , but who are we, the shippers, to be reckoned with after a million years of the completion of the series)
@Sibilla29: и к тому же, не было 100% вероятности, что она его откачает, а вот вернуть его на вампирскую землю - сработало бы для того, чтобы хотя бы оставить его в живых-полумёртвых как минимум на 99.9%
Всех волнует Рик, а у меня другой вопрос. Какого Деймон решил никому не говорить про Бонни? Типа 4 месяца Кэролайн, Энзо и Рик искали хоть какие-то способы связаться с мёртвыми, иголку в стоге сена натурально, а тут Деймон даже вполне себе знает что нужно искать конкретный ковен и спрашивать их куда они запихнули Кая, чтобы узнать как выдернуть оттуда Бонни, нооооо он просто оставил её НАВЕЧНО запертую с озлобленным психопатом. И как-то даже близко не сожалеет. И, если не ради Бонни, то ради Елены мог бы и постараться что-то придумать. Вангую - Елена начнёт в него влюбляться снова, узнает что он умолчал про Бонни и они расстанутся. ОПЯТЬ.
@bearkitty: в этой или прошлой серии Деймон говорил Стефану, что другим будет больно узнать, что она осталась там, уж тем более, что спасла Деймона, но не спасла себя. Может чуть позже они будут искать, но обнадеживать остальных не хотят
Очень насыщенная серия, особенно конец Блин, верх тупизма-ловить этого охотника в двух шагах от границы к мистик фолз🙄 Но с другой стороны внесли немного интереса в отношения Елены и Деймона
I'm also tormented by the question, why does this hunter bring vampires to Mystic Falls? After all, this is a lot of unnecessary actions. Isn't it easier for them to drive a stake into their heart while they are under vervain?
I knew something was going to happen to Alaric so that he would lose his powers and we wouldn't see Delena. And it also seems to me that Damon is being set up with Bonnie, krch, she will come back. Meanwhile, Elena will not continue to remember her feelings, she will live, Damon will drink, Bonnie and that 94th will fix this incompleteness, they will return, she will meet with Damon, they will fraternize, they will remember how much fun they had together and get together, and Elena will be brought back together with Stefan for a short time, because The endgame is divided
One thing I don't understand is if vampires have recovered after crossing the border, it turns out magic has returned to their bodies. But why doesn't the suggestion come back? (I'm talking about Sarah)
The beginning of the series is simple 🤦🏻♀️ Elena, knowing that she had a loved one and that he had risen from the dead, refuses the opportunity to be with him. What kind of selfishness is this? And a complete lack of curiosity—what was their life like, their story? Some kind of nonsense 🙈
I hope Elena remembers everything and she and Damon will be fine. I didn't understand the moment with Alaric, he can easily become a vampire again, it's easy to arrange, it's much easier to turn from a human into a vampire than vice versa, from a vampire to a human... and about Bonnie, I think she'll come back! Kai said he killed himself, but it's useless, so Bonnie didn't die there, they'll figure something out.
A warm welcome was given to Damon =) "And did I come back for this?" XD He misses Bonnie... Why is it so cute? :3 Bring her back!
Yeah... Alaric's suggestion has notably broken down) Nevertheless, I am extremely glad that he survived. And that he became a man again too) I somehow did not perceive him as a vampire... As a person, I liked him much more =) What kind of speech did he wrap up for the doctor! Wow!
I wonder if this trick will be tested again? It's almost the perfect cure for vampirism, unless of course you died from a broken neck... But none of the guys seemed to die that way anymore. The Salvatore brothers were shot, Enzo was also spitting blood, Caroline was strangled with a pillow, as far as I remember, she probably won't even have to be saved, she doesn't carry a pillow with her... Elena drowned - I think it's even easier to pump out here, especially if you start in advance. It remains to find out what happens if you cross the border back, and if everything is OK (and being locked up in a town like Mystic Falls is not particularly cool, although it's quite fun there), you can open a clinic to combat vampirism))
Damon asks to save Enzo first. The Elena Gilbert Effect in action) Well, I talked to Rick quite nicely and didn't even break my neck. It's an obvious growth, I must admit)
When Alaric crossed the border, his body returned to the moment when he was dying (at the moment of becoming a vampire) - but he did not die, but was saved. Therefore, if he is transported across the border, nothing will change :)
1. let's start with the fact that these u **k decided to wait right near the border, 500-1000 m is not an option
2. Stefan pulled out Damon and Enzo, they went abroad and were stupid there in Troy, recovered and watched Alaric die, very smart
3. The witch must have rushed on a broom because there is not a single car in sight
4. he has a torn part of the aorta, what the fuck is a hemostatic gauze, it will stop bleeding outwards and not internally, what kind of doctors went to America
Elena has completely lost her mind. Without those feelings for Damon, she's kind of incomplete as a character. And isn't it enough to cross the border for 10 seconds to bring back all the memories that Alaric erased?
However, typical Diaries. There are tragedies everywhere.
That is, it was not fate to stop 100-200 m before the border. It is necessary to drive up close for the thrill, so to speak.
A lot of people have already recovered from the suggestion by crossing the border. Is the fool unable to do this for a second?
It was undoubtedly a brilliant idea to stop at the very border.
Bottom line: Alaric almost died, but it gets cooler... Was he saved by hemostatic gauze/bandages??? With damage to the aorta. Yes, you're kidding, however.
Although what I expected...So everything is clear.
It was only worth embedding the drama between Elena and Damon again!
I loved this series, but in 2017 I started watching season 5, and that's where all this long tedious stuff with the wanderers started.
As a result, I never finished watching it.
Then in 2018 I tried to finish watching season 5, but it didn't work out.
I tried to finish watching it in the spring of 2019, it was also boring. And then I decided to try something for the 4th time. I didn't regret it. After all, at the end of the season, as always, the most interesting thing began.
Bottom line: I've already watched episode 6. Wildly delighted. The Vampire Diaries were able to return to the same interesting plot that was in the first two or three seasons, when you watch the series with great interest and want to watch more and more.
I didn't think I would watch anymore, so a year ago I spoilered myself a lot of moments ((
But even knowing them, I close my eyes and watch. After all, these are not super important things there were)
Only if a couple of deaths of the main cast of heroes.
But this still contradicts later versions, when humanization removed suggestion (if someone is watching for the second time).
And in general, logical errors began to accumulate from season 5, which later led to a complete misunderstanding of the logic of the series.
1) leave the characters' cars 100-500 meters further from the border
2) to return Elena's memory on the occasion of the death of a vampire in Rick
3) bring Stefan back for Rick!
4) return Enzo for Rick!!
5) return Damon for Rick!!!
6) even the doctor had enough strength to drag Rick abroad, where he would be resurrected. (and she knows exactly everything about vampires, as she claims?)
7) already, your mother, ELENA ran after Stefan's call
what did the writers do? they made us shit ourselves again.
I have the same hatred for them - as they have for Damon/Delena
they don't, but we, the audience, have reasons - over and whatever
if everything else in this series is pulled by the ears, it was possible to pull this for the sake of the romantic line
, but who are we, the shippers, to be reckoned with after a million years of the completion of the series)
Вангую - Елена начнёт в него влюбляться снова, узнает что он умолчал про Бонни и они расстанутся. ОПЯТЬ.
Может чуть позже они будут искать, но обнадеживать остальных не хотят
Блин, верх тупизма-ловить этого охотника в двух шагах от границы к мистик фолз🙄
Но с другой стороны внесли немного интереса в отношения Елены и Деймона
Elena, knowing that she had a loved one and that he had risen from the dead, refuses the opportunity to be with him. What kind of selfishness is this? And a complete lack of curiosity—what was their life like, their story?
Some kind of nonsense 🙈
I didn't understand the moment with Alaric, he can easily become a vampire again, it's easy to arrange, it's much easier to turn from a human into a vampire than vice versa, from a vampire to a human... and about Bonnie, I think she'll come back! Kai said he killed himself, but it's useless, so Bonnie didn't die there, they'll figure something out.
Yeah... Alaric's suggestion has notably broken down) Nevertheless, I am extremely glad that he survived. And that he became a man again too) I somehow did not perceive him as a vampire... As a person, I liked him much more =) What kind of speech did he wrap up for the doctor! Wow!
I wonder if this trick will be tested again? It's almost the perfect cure for vampirism, unless of course you died from a broken neck... But none of the guys seemed to die that way anymore. The Salvatore brothers were shot, Enzo was also spitting blood, Caroline was strangled with a pillow, as far as I remember, she probably won't even have to be saved, she doesn't carry a pillow with her... Elena drowned - I think it's even easier to pump out here, especially if you start in advance. It remains to find out what happens if you cross the border back, and if everything is OK (and being locked up in a town like Mystic Falls is not particularly cool, although it's quite fun there), you can open a clinic to combat vampirism))
Well, I talked to Rick quite nicely and didn't even break my neck. It's an obvious growth, I must admit)