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s02e16 — The Whole Truth

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Duration: 43 min.
Released: 22.03.200623.03.2006 05:00
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2 season
s02e16
s02e12 - Fire + Water
s02e13 - The Long Con
s02e14 - One of Them
s02e15 - Maternity Leave
s02e16 - The Whole Truth
s02e17 - Lockdown
s02e18 - Dave
s02e19 - S.O.S.
s02 special-3 - Reckoning

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youthanasia
youthanasia
27 May 2015, 23:48 #
I think Song cheated on Jin. And if that's the case, then I'm very sad, because I didn't expect this from her in any way (even though she wanted to run away from him). :(
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erno4ka
erno4ka
23 Aug 2015, 17:15 #
@youthanasia: I don't think she cheated on him. Most likely, Jin was cured, like everyone else, after getting to the island
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youthanasia
youthanasia
18 Sep 2015, 01:35 #
@erno4ka: Yes, it's not so much about her pregnancy, but about the flashbacks themselves; about what happens there.
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meoow01
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02 Aug 2017, 03:22 #
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Алёнка1990
Алёнка1990
25 Sep 2018, 22:55 #
How do you look? At the end of the episode, the doctor met Song and explained why he lied. The problem with Gin was
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rollingroland
rollingroland
21 Nov 2017, 00:43 #
@youthanasia: If she had cheated, she would have noticed earlier that something was wrong with her. Here it looks like she's been pregnant for no more than a couple of weeks. and since they have been on the island for about 50 days (~ 7 weeks = the second month of their stay here is coming to an end), then count for yourself. She got pregnant on the island.
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youthanasia
youthanasia
21 Nov 2017, 05:19 #
@rollingroland: I think I already wrote that!it's not about pregnancy!, there's my comment from September 17, 2015.
I explained pregnancy to myself with the "healing properties of the island", like many others.
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rollingroland
rollingroland
22 Nov 2017, 20:50 #
@youthanasia: The issue has been resolved! I agree
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NEOKSIS
NEOKSIS
11 Jul 2019, 16:13 #
@youthanasia: What are you talking about? This island gave birth to a child, Lock also could not walk before arriving on the island, but now it's as if the disease did not exist
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youthanasia
youthanasia
11 Jul 2019, 19:46 #
@NEOKSIS: What am I carrying? where is the contradiction in my words with yours?


(God, I wrote a comment about CHEATING in 2015, people continue to dig into the topic of pregnancy up to 2019)
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NEOKSIS
NEOKSIS
12 Jul 2019, 14:54 #
@youthanasia: it's just the first time I've watched the series and we've been made clear that the island is magical and heals, and you're talking about some kind of betrayal
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Serialnaya
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11 Jul 2020, 01:03 #
@youthanasia: is it still relevant to write about pregnancy on the miracle island?) It's 2020 after all
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laragonnadoit
laragonnadoit
30 May 2021, 03:42 #
@NEOKSIS: unfortunately, cheating and pregnancy can exist in parallel)
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Etrniiity_wnoo
Etrniiity_wnoo
03 Jul 2022, 15:50 #
A nightmare, it's been 7 years since the first comments😅
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agentorange
agentorange
17 May 2022, 19:56 #
Have you seen this psycho husband? she wanted to leave him and the betrayal on her part is understandable
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IrInAZKKK
IrInAZKKK
29 Jul 2022, 21:08 #
@youthanasia: Probably yes. But then what was the point of telling her that he was the problem? So that he would definitely suspect her? If you didn't tell him about the betrayal?
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Its_only_me
Its_only_me
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03 Aug 2015, 11:12 #
Well, when will it become clear who their prisoner is?
I hope he's telling the truth.
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veter_hurona
veter_hurona
04 Sep 2015, 06:45 #
With each episode, Anna-Lucia gets more and more infuriating.
And I'm still touched by Song and Jin, despite everything..
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Эклер_Эклерушка
Эклер_Эклерушка
17 Sep 2015, 13:01 #
Blo, well, this is already nonsense. I absolutely didn't find fault with the plot up to this point, but damn it, when a prisoner tells you where to go, and you believe him... It seems very logical that there will be something like an ambush
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Bаkа_Usаgi
Bаkа_Usаgi
13 Dec 2015, 17:24 #
@Ecler_eclerushka: That's why she goes there with a gun and not alone. You need to check it anyway. It's already clear to you and me that the prisoner is really one of the bad ones, but for them it has not yet been proven and there is a possibility that this person is not lying.
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angelZ
angelZ
23 Sep 2016, 23:35 #
@Baka_Usagi: thank you, kind man, from all those who are watching for the first time and are also not sure if the prisoner is from the bad or from the good.
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Bаkа_Usаgi
Bаkа_Usаgi
02 Oct 2016, 00:57 #
@angelZ: At the time I wrote this comment, this episode was the last one I watched. Then I was already sure that the type was muddy. After all, he deliberately constantly bumped Locke's foreheads with Jack - this already spoke not in his favor.
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mrOrgg
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08 Aug 2020, 23:59 #
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TearfulSea
TearfulSea
21 Apr 2016, 19:16 #
That feeling when you go through the whole episode: "well, did Sun really cheat on Jin?" :)) I don't want the screenwriters to ruin the image of their relationship so much.
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agentorange
agentorange
17 May 2022, 19:57 #
A "relationship"? Do you not see your husband's abuse at all?
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Геворг
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17 May 2022, 22:52 #
@agentorange: It just started out beautifully, he wasn't like that at first, so I feel sorry for him.
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Фаффи
Фаффи
28 Sep 2016, 19:30 #
Where did the pregnancy test come from?
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Фаффи
Фаффи
28 Sep 2016, 19:42 #
Well... she condemned people who write comments without fully watching the series, but she herself
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yana_ackles
yana_ackles
18 Mar 2017, 20:48 #
"I love you"
Awww...
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Tardi
Tardi
18 Apr 2017, 03:20 #
It surprises me how secrets are kept on the island. At the beginning of the season, Jack asked not to tell anyone what was in the bunker, everyone found out from somewhere that there was a button that needed to be pressed every 108 minutes. In this episode, Charlie (apparently from Said) already knows about the prisoner. Many people found out about Song's pregnancy very soon.
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Геворг
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21 Oct 2020, 13:50 #
@Tardi: they found out about the button in episode 3, later Locke told Charlie, then they arranged a shift, but it's not known how much anyone knows. Sayyid himself immediately told Charlie about the prisoner after torturing the prisoner at the end of the series.
They showed us how "Many" found out: Sawyer had all the supplies, he refused to give Sun what she needed until he found out what it was. Then he told Bernard. Kate helped with the test, Jack found out, because he was approached with advice about the test.
As you can see, everything is shown logically - everything started with Sawyer, if it went beyond Bernard.
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NS664
NS664
13 Aug 2017, 22:35 #
Kapets... I'm scared for them now....
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rollingroland
rollingroland
21 Nov 2017, 00:56 #
I really like that this series of events of the "new era" continued: the Said-Shannon couple, the Rose-Bernard reunion and the pregnancy of Sun (which is quite natural). no one is waiting for a magical rescue anymore. the heroes settle down on the island and establish a way of life. I am satisfied.

it's annoying how anyone who comes to talk to this Henry probably doesn't get so much information from him AS he TALKS ABOUT HIMSELF. re-by-ta, you know who this is, mb is a fucking spy, but yes, let's not just let him eavesdrop on our conversations from the armory, but we will also give him information about ourselves.

It is unclear if the path to the ball is actually a trap. either he didn't set up any trap, or he drew a map of how to get to the others (they would have noticed our gang, hidden and waited to attack at the right time), or he is a genius of strategy - as Sawyer calculated (what's her name?) a long scam.
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chch93
chch93
20 Jul 2021, 10:06 #
@rollingroland: I'm also amazed at how easily they dump everything on him. Such an insinuating man, is that how his miserable, scared face affects them? They told him everything about themselves, he counted all the psychotypes.
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ToplesS
ToplesS
27 Nov 2017, 23:32 #
Well, let's talk logically. If Popeye is a stranger, then why would he set a trap? They can pick up anyone they need at any time without that, you yourself already understand about their capabilities.
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MaryWolf-18
MaryWolf-18
23 Jan 2018, 20:19 #
To exchange people, he said
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ushakovatory
ushakovatory
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04 Sep 2018, 23:27 #
@ToplesS: I think they've already fallen into the trap of taking him in. If he was one of the Others, then they wouldn't just fall into the trap of the same Frenchwoman. So they are pursuing some kind of goal.
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Efir_boy
Efir_boy
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07 Jan 2019, 05:38 #
Yeah, it's a bit silly, of course. The first thought that came after he drew the plan was that others might be waiting there. It was possible to prepare, take more people and weapons. What for? A series of completely illogical actions continues
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electraheart
electraheart
12 Jul 2019, 22:04 #
@Efir_boy: Why endanger the rest of the peaceful survivors? strong men with guns went there (well, Charlie went with them). If they don't come back, they'll call for help.
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_LA_
_LA_
07 Jan 2019, 17:11 #
I was already afraid that Shan Sung had started to tyrannize over his wife again, but nothing seemed to have happened.
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Dr_Huvian
Dr_Huvian
23 Jan 2019, 18:20 #
And I think this prisoner is not one of the others. I feel sorry for him when he talks about his wife(
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sebasharman
sebasharman
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01 Dec 2019, 05:42 #
@Dr_Huvian: and I was very struck by a moment from one of the previous episodes when Said says that if he really buried his wife, he would have remembered everything about it. So I can't believe this prisoner
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barsegyan_di
barsegyan_di
24 Jan 2019, 23:55 #
The strange sudden union of Said and Charlie 🤨
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Геворг
Геворг
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21 Oct 2020, 13:53 #
@barsegyan_di: Nothing strange or sudden - watch the ending of the episode when Sayyid tortured Henry Gale.
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anastasiasaf
anastasiasaf
10 Oct 2019, 00:50 #
I'm a bad person, but Gin bothers me at times. Very strongly. Sometimes it seems OK, it is clear that he loves and cares about Song. And sometimes you look at him and you want to punch him in the face for such an attitude. Somehow it doesn't touch me, in short.
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anastasiasaf
anastasiasaf
10 Oct 2019, 01:55 #
Okay, I admit, at the end of the episode I was touched, I take back some of my words (
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Lapitella
Lapitella
10 Apr 2020, 00:10 #
@anastasiasaf: When he destroyed Sung's kindergarten, it was as inadequate as possible. Yes, he was worried that she might be attacked again. Well, I would have stayed there with her. We must respect the interests of others. Especially when there are not so many of them on the island) And it would be safe with him. This garden is not so far from the beach. And Kate kind of hung out with her there once)
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ezcett
ezcett
02 Jun 2020, 22:31 #
@anastasiasaf: well, he has a temper, what can I do. fortunately, both Sun and Jin understand this - she reserves patience and does not arrange drama, but he cools down and admits his mistakes. from time to time.
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ezcett
ezcett
02 Jun 2020, 22:35 #
it bothered me that "it's worth telling everyone about pregnancy."
the boy was stolen by someone unknown from the raft,
the pregnant woman was caught in the hope of taking the child, which she remembered and (hopefully) She also told the others, the Frenchwoman said the same about her daughter, who was stolen.

it is hardly worth talking about pregnancy in the open, at least until it becomes noticeable.
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Геворг
Геворг
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21 Oct 2020, 13:55 #
@ezcett: meaning? It's still a long way from giving birth, plus there are no strangers with them. If they want to, Others will find ways to find out something.
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ezcett
ezcett
21 Oct 2020, 17:28 #
@Gevorg: the Frenchwoman said that you should be afraid of all new strangers, some may pretend to be "their own" for a long time. just in case, in my opinion, such information should remain secret at least until the 4th month.
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Геворг
Геворг
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31 Jan 2021, 04:33 #
@ezcett: так с этими новичками было всё доказано уже
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katarinagroo
katarinagroo
04 Jan 2021, 15:37 #
Корейская семейка всегда в центре событий. Иногда это не так явно просматривается, но в этой серии им прямо с порога отвели главные роли. Они, надо признать, симпатичнее большинства. И даже при всех своих заморочках и секретах интересны 😌
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_October_
28 Jan 2021, 19:43 #
Это какой же большой остров чтобы идти к шару почти сутки?😱 - по словам Саида
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Sashasushiboy
Sashasushiboy
15 Jul 2021, 08:14 #
Там и по два-три дня до этого ходили, не смущает?
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ezcett
ezcett
18 Apr 2021, 12:52 #
Сойер со своими прозвищами радует всё больше.
Теперь он Сун называет Sunny, что перевели как Солнышко. милота.
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БеатаКатамадзе
БеатаКатамадзе
13 Jul 2021, 17:33 #
Мне кажется у Суна будет ребёнок от изменщика раз, ей стало плохо просто 2 месяца срок не сразу понятно что она Беременна. Мне кажется это измена... или она забеременела от него на острове
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chch93
chch93
20 Jul 2021, 10:12 #
Джин такой псих иногда, при всей моей большой симпатии к герою, была бы возможность и полная уверенность, тоже от него ушла на месте жены. Никогда не знаешь, чего от него ожидать. Понимаю, что он переживает за Сун, но разносить садик этому не поможет.

Дааа, конечно, ребенок решает все проблемы. Ох уж эти скрепы, от которых бед больше, чем решения.

— Я даже не знаю, какой сегодня день!
— Суббота, Бернард.
Очень с них хохочу, умилительная парочка.

И все же... Такие они оба вспыльчивые и порывистые, что Джин, что Сун. Его срыв у врача, и её походы за инглишом и попытки сбежать... Но в итоге оба выбирают друг друга, они нужны друг другу, и это самое важное. И наконец-то он будет учить английский, аллилуйя!
Этот момент, где они вместе сажают куст снова прям супер показательный, очень за них рада. Хотя с ребенком все так рискованно и нестабильно, что страшно даже загадывать.

НаркоЧарлик прибился к арапчонку, авось мозги опять на место встанут. Это лучше, чем с распиздяем Сойером тусоваться, который разбалтывает не свои секреты всем вокруг, пускай это и вышло забавно.
Мне только не нравится, что для Саида это путь возмездия. Никогда оно так не работает и ничего не приносит. Но их разговор с Аной-Люсией прям надломил во мне что-то.

Я не знаю, может это мне как зрителю видно со стороны, но играет ими этот Генри как хочет. Так явно пытается всех стравить, подначивает Локка, вкладывает в их голову мысль о том, что все это коварный план по обмену, а потом бац — и снова прикинулся ветошью, самый больной на свете человек, зочем ви надо мной ездеваетесь. Кошмар, мороз от него по коже.
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Геворг
Геворг
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21 Jul 2021, 22:35 #
@chch93: монолог с молоком стал сигналом для продюсеров, что они подобрали правильного актёра на роль Генри, и контракт с ним продлили (контракт был на 3 серии, после чего в зависимости от актёра решили бы, что с сделать с персонажем дальше).
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chch93
chch93
21 Jul 2021, 23:40 #
@Геворг: ого, какие интересные подробности) Очень рада, потому что Майкл Эмерсон реально хорош
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Геворг
Геворг
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22 Jul 2021, 00:06 #
@chch93: если интересуют такие подробности - читайте после окончания сериала интересные факты на странице для каждой серии на фан-сайте Lostpedia
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marcelinept2
marcelinept2
17 Dec 2021, 03:00 #
складывается впечатление, будто Джек и Локк отупели к этой серии. Надо было и дальше Саида за недодругим посадить следить, а не этих двух олухов которых можно развести на раз-два
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Allons_y
Allons_y
20 Jan 2022, 23:04 #
– Если бы я был им... одним из тех, кого вы считаете врагами, что бы я сделал? Хм... Шара бы не было, я бы набросал план пути к реальному месту, возле кустарника или пещеры, где можно устроить ловушку... засаду. И когда ваши друзья пришли бы туда, их ждали бы мои люди. И их обменяли бы на меня... Хорошо, что я не ваш враг, правда..?
У вас есть молоко?
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Геворг
Геворг
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22 Jan 2022, 23:21 #
@Allons_y: эта сцена убедила шоураннеров, что на роль Генри они выбрали правильного актёра: первоначальный контракт был на 3 серии и как дальше должен был развиваться его сюжет зависел от кастинга.
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id67547496
id67547496
04 Jan 2023, 21:32 #
@Allons_y: настоящий психолог, жутковатые глазищи, как у Голума, но как же им не очевидно, что он ими манипулирует?! Но тогда ведь не было бы сериала, сама себе отвечу на вопрос 😃
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Hunter_Number23
Hunter_Number23
10 Feb 2023, 07:49 #
Любопытно, Локк вдруг начал ходить на острове, а Сун забеременела хотя её муж не мог зачать ребёнка. Выходит остров обладает каким-то полем которое ликвидирует всякие хронические болячки? Хотя это и не касается всех болезней\ранений, если учесть что те же Бун и Шеннон погибли, да вообще всякие порезы, вывихи и переломы с огнестрельными ранениями видимо не входят в список того, что остров способен подлечить.
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asverus
asverus
26 Aug 2023, 22:28 #
@Hunter_Number23: Хотел написать, что, возможно, остров лечит то, что у них было до попадания туда. Но вспомнил, что астма Шеннон никуда не делась, так что непонятно.
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