And I still don't like Alexandra, for the life of me. She plays poor Suleiman as best she can, but he's fallen head over heels in love with her, he doesn't see anything. And I am very upset that her relationship with Ibrahim is so bad. In the beginning, it seemed to me that Ibrahim treats her normally, and then... That's right, there's nothing to make a rope out of his friend. Ibrahim is smart, Ibrahim understands everything. In general, more than a couple of Ibrahim/Hatice and quietly hate Hurrem.
King Lajos is represented by a real tyrant. In truth, he had a lot of problems without the Ottomans. In particular, he was hated by the entire Hungarian nobility. But it is difficult to say whether this had anything to do with his personal qualities - the dislike of Hungarians was explained by the fact that Lajos is a foreigner. But in the series, she is shown to be a very, very unpleasant subject. Hurrem is really an impudent lady. There is an impression that her image is torn from the era in which the action takes place and even from the circumstances. Her "hit-and-run" on Ibrahim looks a little strange. That's how a woman bluntly tells a man to "Get out of the way!" I would have understood if she had said, "You have influence over Suleiman. And I have one. I am as good a "bet" as Mahidevran. Be on my side (or at least don't mind) in the midst of all this intrigue." And what she said would have alienated anyone, even someone who didn't particularly dislike her. So Hatice is a widow? And I kept wondering what the age difference between her and Suleiman should be, that the sultan's sister was still in the maidens. Let's see what comes out of her sighs for Ibrahim. Mahidevran is a very beautiful but short-sighted woman. He does not think through his steps, commits impulsive acts. She really destroyed the position she had with her own hands. It's a pity(
@KaterinaVoyler: at the same time, magically, everyone and especially the sultan immediately find out about every mistake of Mahidevran, and Hurrem does the same thing, but not a word reaches the sultan. Miracles!
@nens8_8y: Mahi got burned only with the beating of Hurrem, but it was impossible to hide it. And what about Hurrem? She didn't do anything against the Sultan, and even if she did, of course everyone would hide it, she's a favorite.
It is unpleasant that everyone around Hurrem sees what she really is and no one has any illusions, even those who sympathize with her, one wise and astute Suleiman is behaving like a sucker: Hurrem is so unhappy, so naive, so fragile...I would understand if he just loved her, well, everything would be OK, I love her, I have the right and not to fuck. And then it's shown like some kind of heifer, which she twirls as she wants, well, literally. And does it offend the Turks themselves? Such an iconic ruler was already presented. And how in this episode he ran all over the harem from one to the other to express his ai-yai-yai to everyone...Well, it's terrible.
@Allysandra_: it's a matter of taste, of course, but, in my opinion, there are a lot of cute chicks around him, including more cute ones. Mahidevran is very elegant, so aristocratic, the same Aishe - well, just a doll! If the sultan had just bought into looks, he would not have stayed with one person for a long time, I think.
Why wouldn't he be? Hurrem, in fact, did not do anything like that at the time of episode 4, and all her words end at Valide's doorstep. The harem clearly sees more than Suleiman, and therefore does not flatter itself with illusions.
It seems to me that the audience wants quite a lot from Alexandra at this stage. When she entered the harem, she was about 15 years old and although she was not a downtrodden peasant, she also did not come from an aristocratic family, where etiquette and rules of survival at court are taught from the cradle. Therefore, at first she was a "savage", distraught with grief, now she has turned into a "habalka" who wants to survive and find her place in the sun. In Ibrahim, she sees her enemy and competitor during the sultan's time, so she shows aggression. I'm not saying it's reasonable and right, but it's logical for a young inexperienced girl. At least she is much more cunning than Mahidevran, who is older and has lived her whole life in these conditions, but has absolutely not learned how to fight according to local rules. It would be strange if, having immediately entered the harem, Hurrem behaved correctly, so we are gradually shown the transformation of a young savage into a queen.
That's how, how the fuck did they come up with such a "brilliant" idea when Suleiman calls Hurrem almost every day?! They all make such clever schemers of themselves and so stupidly expose themselves... What kind of nonsense is this?!
Suleiman is a very strong and wise man who has his weakness- love, which is why he is so easily manipulated by those he loves. Hurrem is trying to prove to everyone around her that she is strong (and at the same time convince herself) that the whole world is at her feet
Everyone is so outraged that Hurrem turns the poor sultan around, but no one is embarrassed that her family was killed, and she was stolen into slavery and PRESENTED to the sultan as a pancake of some kind. A living person was presented! And of course, she turns around, doing everything to survive and not be a slave, who for the rest of her days, instead of a free life, washes the floor and snuggles. And he does the right thing by twisting, I would look at you, how would you behave if you were sold into slavery.
Does this Akhmet Pasha remind me of Ben Barnes alone?🤔😹
And yes, the girls didn't have periods, did they? Or did they keep every concubine's schedule there? Just to say that Hurrem has these days, so it's not going, was it impossible?🌚
Although Hurrem is infuriating so far, the fact that she is spinning as best she can is logical. The only thing that is not logical is how she behaves with people close to the Sultan. Valide is insolent, bickering with Ibrahim. What for? On the contrary, they should be persuaded to their side, and not set against it. Mahidevran may be beautiful, but she's a fool to look for. There is no cunning in her, although she could live happily, after all, the mother of the heir
That's exactly what infuriates her with her unreasonable aggressiveness, in fact, they are also not to blame that her relatives were killed and she was presented to the sultan. Their people didn't even do it, the despair and pain of what happened is understandable, but both the character and the actress are directly disgusted
Хоть у Махидевран ситуация и ужасная, но ей не сочувствуешь. Наверное потому, что мы наблюдаем историю с момента появления Хюррем, оттого и хочется, чтобы у этой рыженькой все сложилась, а Махи ядом своим захлебнулась. Пока что да, Хюррем слишком вспыльчивая и языком попусту треплет по поводу того, что станет госпожой. Ну нельзя такое в гареме говорить, везде же уши. И очень жаль, что она с Ибрагимом враждует, ну он же такой пусечка. Не знаю как у других, но я как то не вижу любви между султаном и Хюррем, такое ощущение, что когда она в очередной раз скажет, что скучает по нему и т.п, он посмотрит на нее с видом «бля, заебала»😄. Кстати, возможно я просто слепа на этот счёт, но не понимаю, есть ли чувства у Хюррем к султану или это все хитрый план.
Hurrem is really an impudent lady. There is an impression that her image is torn from the era in which the action takes place and even from the circumstances. Her "hit-and-run" on Ibrahim looks a little strange. That's how a woman bluntly tells a man to "Get out of the way!" I would have understood if she had said, "You have influence over Suleiman. And I have one. I am as good a "bet" as Mahidevran. Be on my side (or at least don't mind) in the midst of all this intrigue." And what she said would have alienated anyone, even someone who didn't particularly dislike her.
So Hatice is a widow? And I kept wondering what the age difference between her and Suleiman should be, that the sultan's sister was still in the maidens. Let's see what comes out of her sighs for Ibrahim.
Mahidevran is a very beautiful but short-sighted woman. He does not think through his steps, commits impulsive acts. She really destroyed the position she had with her own hands. It's a pity(
It would be strange if, having immediately entered the harem, Hurrem behaved correctly, so we are gradually shown the transformation of a young savage into a queen.
And yes, the girls didn't have periods, did they? Or did they keep every concubine's schedule there? Just to say that Hurrem has these days, so it's not going, was it impossible?🌚
Пока что да, Хюррем слишком вспыльчивая и языком попусту треплет по поводу того, что станет госпожой. Ну нельзя такое в гареме говорить, везде же уши. И очень жаль, что она с Ибрагимом враждует, ну он же такой пусечка.
Не знаю как у других, но я как то не вижу любви между султаном и Хюррем, такое ощущение, что когда она в очередной раз скажет, что скучает по нему и т.п, он посмотрит на нее с видом «бля, заебала»😄.
Кстати, возможно я просто слепа на этот счёт, но не понимаю, есть ли чувства у Хюррем к султану или это все хитрый план.